this will be the last time i bought an early access game. early access is basically semi-socialism. you pay people out before they did the work and then you are left mad at them because they dont work. and even when they work they some day decide to slap "1.0 full release" on it although its clearly not even finished.
You are correct, but Valheim's definitely one of the better examples of E.A., in the sense that it actually works and is pretty satisfying to play.
Deep Rock Galactict would be even better sample, and it actually came out just 2 years into the beta.
The good rule of thumb is never to put anything less than 70% done into early access. The version should already represent the final image of the game, and be fully playable.
The problem are all these maybe 10% finished prototypes they dare to call "early access versions" of their game.
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Valheim and DRG are both fantastic games despite being Early Access.
OP fricked the conversation with his example before it even began.
why even release unfinished games for money? i dont see directors selling assembly cuts, or writers selling coffee stained first drafts, or photographers selling exposed film.
ea is a scam please stop pretending its some virtuoustic and video game unique way of development its a scam to steal your money
>lol isnt everything
no frick off
>why even release unfinished games for money?
Cos people fricking buy them. Nowadays you can even do a "full release" and then actually finish it with patches/dlc. You can release a dogshit pile of a game that bricks your hardware but if you fix it later with patches people will praise you for being "a dev that keeps working on the game".
Less cynical reason is "allows smaller companies to make games without huge upfront cost of making 100% of the game with 0 profit or even assurance of any profit" but really thats bullshit.
>You are correct, but Valheim's definitely one of the better examples of E.A.
Absofrickinglutely not.
They took the money and went on vacation for half a year. Took them like 9 months to put out one tiny, dinky little update of little substance. They ditched the roadmap they advertised with and wouldn't be on track to complete even 20% of what they claimed they'd do this year regardless. It's just a typical, run of the mill early access scam - but hey, at least they posted pictures of the horse they bought with your money! :^)
You're a moron, you never pay into a promise, you buy a product for what it is. I bought Valheim when it "came out" for what it was then, and got my moneys worth, what comes after is just bonus, if it's nothing I've lost nothing.
proud cuck
>not spending your money like a moron makes you a cuck
ok moron
cope cuckold
>i bought unfinished crap and i don't even CARE about it being finished
People like you enable low effort early access cashgrabs, cuck.
So you never cook your own food because the raw food is unfinished?
>pay money for raw ingredients
>i know that i'll get home and cook something nice
Versus you, who thinks
>pay money for raw ingredients
>give to a random shitter who promised you a Michelin level dinner
>he just gives it back to you after stuffing them into a microwave for a minute
>I WAS FINE WITH WHAT I BOUGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE
Always the food analogy
As long as there is a need for something to play people will keep throwing their money at early access. We live in an age of easy access to all forms of entertainment and generally we move on to try other things often before we're bored of the thing we were fricking with.
Ah yes, socialism is when things are paid upfront.
the redpill here is understanding that early access games that are successful, try to remain in warly access as long as possible to milk it.
look at rimworld, 20 years in early access but it released in a state not so different, and the expansions add moods and minor things.
But Valheim is one of the best examples of Early Access done right?
The game is complete, functional and playable for hundreds of hours with no issues.
Try something like 7 Days to Die, a game that has been in EA since 2013.
>Try something like 7 Days to Die, a game that has been in EA since 2013.
I played that for the first time recently with friends. Nothing like seeing important features such as Twitch integration getting updates while discarding an item in a car causes damage and sometimes death.
Still had fun but it really shouldn't be so janky after 8 years of development.
There's nothing even remotely complete about Valheim and the only way you're getting hundreds of hours is a combination of severe autism and the intense grinding implemented to offset the lack of content.
>pay $20 for an early access game
>get 80 hours out of it
Dunno, seemed like a good deal for me even if they can't back up their promises of a finished product.
>get scammed
>dunno works on my machine got my fun
The absolute state
>buy product as advertised
>expect some make belief version of product from the future
>be upset you get product as advertised
This comes down 100% to you building up some image in your head of what the game is supposed to be, rather than what it is at the time of purchase. You get the thing you spend money on. Welcome to capitalism.
>make belief
Problem is not expecting something that's not there, problem is being a spineless homosexual like
that shrugs and goes "oh fellas you can not bother finishing thag I got my fun" instead of being against this shitty practice.
That roadmap is hilariously optimistic considering we only just got QoL and system changes 6 or so months out from release.
Frankly, it's "optimistic" to the point of being outright fraud compared to what was actually delivered. Obviously not legally since EA is a bulletproof scam, but functionally. Sell your game with high, specific promises on releases, then retract it all after you have everyone's money.
Pretty much this
I can only wonder what even was the point of that roadmap? If they couldn't do it now, with this much money and success, how would they go about it if it was just another fotm indie?