Traveller or Starfinder?

I've been obsessed with starfield lately and recently Todd himself mentioned one of his main inspirations for it was an RPG called Traveller, an ancient fucking thing that came out around 3 years after DnD. Look it up for a bit, and found it clicked nicely with me (that classic late 60s to mid 80s sci-fi aesthetic is tight) and reminded me heavy of a certain top-down spess shenanigans simulator I've played quite a bit of over the years. thing is it's somewhat obscure and I'm not even sure if I could even find a copy of it (or even be able to make a group with it) and the closest modern equivalent of the game I could think of that's even somewhat known is, you guessed it, starfinder. how do these two compare?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://goblincrew.wdfiles.com/local--files/cc-rules-info/Traveller%20-%20Core%20Rulebook%20(MGP3800).pdf

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thank you sir

      >how do these two compare?
      uhhh... they're both in space? sort of?
      otherwise they have next to nothing in common

      how so? I know Starfinder is essentially a sci-fi offshoot of pathfinder, which in of itself was an offshoot of DnD 2nd (or 3rd) edition, but is there anything beyond that?

      >How do they compare?
      Traveller is ultimately a pretty grounded game about believable space adventures.
      Starfinder is a zany fantasy MMO loot grind "In spehss." that doesn't even have in-universe mechanics for upgrading spaceships. They just get better with the party's level because they have to for the game to work. Number go Up, nobody cares why.

      oh.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >how do these two compare?
    uhhh... they're both in space? sort of?
    otherwise they have next to nothing in common

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How do they compare?
    Traveller is ultimately a pretty grounded game about believable space adventures.
    Starfinder is a zany fantasy MMO loot grind "In spehss." that doesn't even have in-universe mechanics for upgrading spaceships. They just get better with the party's level because they have to for the game to work. Number go Up, nobody cares why.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mongoose Traveller 2e is 95%+ compatible with Classic 70's Traveller and was first released in 2016. Cepheus Engine, which is am OGL Mongoose Traveller 1e, is again 95%+ compatible and is free.

    Starfinder is a worse Pathfinder IMO. Traveller is hands down my favorite RPG system.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've played a lot of Traveller and it's a fun game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mongoose Traveller 2e is 95%+ compatible with Classic 70's Traveller and was first released in 2016. Cepheus Engine, which is am OGL Mongoose Traveller 1e, is again 95%+ compatible and is free.

      Starfinder is a worse Pathfinder IMO. Traveller is hands down my favorite RPG system.

      Based traveller bros. I've run two campaigns of it but one ended and the other is kinda on hiatus due to us doing other campaigns while one player in it wasn't around. Traveller just feels like a series of little "jobs" and escapades and I have a hard time making it tie together into a larger plot. The trading was interesting but got old fast. Still love the system I just find it harder to run a campaign than in DnD or in my savage worlds steampunk world.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >how do these two compare?
    Aliens vs. World of Warcrap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's... actually pretty close, although I'd lean towards starwars

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        World of Starwarscraft?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Far Future is still selling cds, actual fucking discs, of pdfs of Classic, MegaTraveller, and The New Era. Traveller 5 should not be attempted by newbies, you gotta build up to that. They're also on DriveThru. Humble Bundle and Bundle of Holding have both had Traveller in the last year. So yeah, if you want the actual black books you'll have to hit up ebay but the pdfs are widely available to buy.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >check amazon for 2e
    >recently released 2022 version
    >it's filled with several "editorial errors"
    >check da archives/curated/aneex for 2016 version
    >only ones I could find are either the 2015 version or the newest
    >check ebay
    >$90
    yep. it's one of those days

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have you tried searching for a traveller general thread on the archives and the linked traveller specific megas?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've played Starfinder. Never again. It's awful shit. Fucks with the origin of its own races lore and level locks certain items and equipment like an MMO. In a fucking TTRPG! What nonce would design such a thing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anyhow. If you end up not feeling traveler, I'd recommend Stars without Number. I've read through it and also heard nothing but good things about it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I also recommend SwN. Some great content out there for it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I also recommend SwN. Some great content out there for it.

        Traveller
        Stars Without Number
        Coriolis
        GURPS
        can all power good space adventures

        • 1 month ago
          Sage

          Spacemaster.
          Mekton Zeta.
          Spelljammer (2e D&D only)
          even Battletech/Mechwarrior could be considered a space adventure.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How did you "look up traveller for a bit" and not realize that there is a current edition with a brand new core book out this year?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Traveller.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno. When you punch someone they end your misery of playing starfinder, Seems well designed to me.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it even promotes correct boxing jab with the back of the fist facing up to aim it at your face. all around seems like a well thought out design.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >thing is it's somewhat obscure and I'm not even sure if I could even find a copy of it (or even be able to make a group with it)
    https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?filters=10134_0_0_0_0

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Traveller is great:
    Normally the group is forme by ppl of 3x years old that are at the end of their careers. Some have retire, others have been fired and become hobos and other have been critically injured and dicharged from the army.
    This group of ragtags wants to go to space again and make extra coin, so they buy a 2nd hand ship and take a nice mortgage
    After that the DM can develop the campaign to include a plot.

    The idea is to make money using the trading/passenger/cargo table, but not enough to pay the mortgage so they need to make some odd and dangerouns jobs. These jobs are the adventures itself.

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