Trench Crusade, can it really become the new WH40K for cheaptards?

Trench Crusade, can it really become the new WH40K for cheaptards?

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  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    No, and I don't think it's trying to be.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      It really isn't trying to be a new 40k.

      I've seen the viral tweet. Hopefully it won't attract the wrong "people".

      It's very clearly trying to be a spiritual successor to Mordheim, why on Earth would you think a gritty campaign-based skirmish system would be trying to compete with 40k?

      The only reason people are talking about it as a 40k replacement is due to American culture war morons in Twitter trying to push it as the new 40k after Femstodes because they just care about “based and redpilled” aesthetics over actual gameplay. Apparently the creators of it are shill though and it’s just a cool idea they came up with, the whole culture war angle are just people trying to find some “based” product they can attach their identity to.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >because they just care about “based and redpilled” aesthetics over actual gameplay.
        The aesthetics of the setting is literally the only selling point of 40k, the gameplay is still IGYG for fricks sake

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          murderfang is the most fun unit on the board in any game, and it's a complete demonstration of why igyg needs to die

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >just people trying to find some “based” product they can attach their identity to.

        It won't work. Tuomas doesn't strike me as "woke" per se, just disinterested in such grumbling. Creatives find a way forward

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Surface aesthetics is all these people care about anyway.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          This. People actually claim 40k didnt die in 2016 lol.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            40k may has well have died right after rogue trader dropped, the notion of something dying has lost all its meaning in a sea of copium

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I assume it's made by the same kind of homosexual that writes for BL, so the Dissident Online Weirdos are going to be in for a rude awakening.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >I assume

          You do

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Caring about lore is culture war

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It didn't used to be like this until people started linking black characters to the Great Replacement.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus christ shut up already I don’t care about your terrible culture and politics. Americans ruin everything

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Americans ruin everything

          This. Even their Christianity is some cargo cult shit unfamiliar to me or my upbringing. It's mostly about demonstrating how good you are for an hour before abusing the Applebee's waitress at lunch after. Their politics, what a wash! Fake left and fake right duking it out over who gets to squeeze the worker next

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    It really isn't trying to be a new 40k.

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen the viral tweet. Hopefully it won't attract the wrong "people".

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the wrong "people".
      i doubt there's enough money in it for anybody to care at this point, it will only get butchered once there's money to parasite from it, it's not like any of those people actually play the games

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Battletech says hello from the grave. Are you this naive?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Battletech is Yuge. I don't really know how mechs can be gay but I like a good mech so paint em how you want em

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Battletech is literally also dead it survives from e-begging. They survived by begging for cash on Kickstarter to keep going as opposed to actually operating of off selling stuff.

            I have 0 clue why people repeatedly give Catalyst free money on Kickstarter so they may then get the privilege of buying models full prize from them. This has to be a mental illness.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              They made millions of dollars didn't they?

              I don't give a shit about industry inside baseball.

              Marvel and DC superhero comics are the prime example of getting strangled by backstory, and that's part of why manga has ate their lunch over the last 20 years or so.

              And why is there such a demand for this backstory? Because people won't grow up and move past 1 or 2 interests. A reading allergy! Adults are destroying children's pasttimes with their need to consoom.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >And why is there such a demand for this backstory?
                There isn't as much demand for lore as nerds think. Star Wars EU avoided this for a while by just pushing forward chronologically, even if the results were often uneven.

                It's why Marvel Comics is basically just a holding company for the handful of 30-50yo storylines and characters that people give a shit about that were mined into the MCU.

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was a skirmish game?

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    it looks like someone told an AI to be grimdark

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      i think it's designed by Tuomas Pirinen and Mike Franchina, Tuomas seems to be a Warhammer guy work on some tabletop games, Mike worked on Diablo 4 concept design, not sure if that is good or bad

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Mike has done concept work on a shit ton of video games, I like his style

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Mike has worked on many projects.

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's very clearly trying to be a spiritual successor to Mordheim, why on Earth would you think a gritty campaign-based skirmish system would be trying to compete with 40k?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Mordheim
      i think that guy Tuomas Pirinen hired to create the rules in Trench Crusade was the creator of Mordheim

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      well I'm sold

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Trench Crusade's designer also helped design Mordheim https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamedesigner/1638/tuomas-pirinen
      And if you take a look at the rules you can easily see the similarities between the two

      https://i.imgur.com/CdLWMSL.jpeg

      Trench Crusade, can it really become the new WH40K for cheaptards?

      >can it really become the new WH40K
      Completely different scale and atmosphere, absolutely not.
      Nothing stopping anyone from trying to play Trench Crusade in the scale of 40k, like 50 models vs 50 models or something, but the game isn't designed with that in mind and would need some homebrewing.
      40k and Trench Crusade are appealing to two different demographics tbh

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      OP is just trying to stir shit. This happens with literally every new thing on /tg/: we don't care about games, we just like hating them.

      >just people trying to find some “based” product they can attach their identity to.

      It won't work. Tuomas doesn't strike me as "woke" per se, just disinterested in such grumbling. Creatives find a way forward

      Tuomas is literally pro-troony lmao these Black folk

      What 3 years?

      moronic. It does at least have breasts in which modern GW won't commit to, I guess.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >It does at least have breasts
        Prove it.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Gaze upon the free rules online on their website with your moron eyes, you lazy c**t, and you will see art with titty.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Who do you think you are, trying to make me work for my tiddy pics.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think he cares because he is a grown up with bills to pay and ideas to create. People who get upset over knowing whta is orisn't woke, this kind of categorisation autism is meaningless to a thinking person

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's genuinely a kind of mental illness which, once it takes hold of you, requires you to divide everything else you encounter into one of two sides. You literally schizo yourself into thinking you are undergoing constant psychic war and must attack/defend everything constantly according to your own moronic dichotomy.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            I have droppe d out of games and groups because it's literally people sharing a narrative about the world that bares almost no scrutiny. I am not a "woke" or"leftwing" person but I just can't be around people like this. They are the dumbest golems ever made. They believe what the internet wants them to this week and it just isn't anything to dowith the hobby, making things, trying things, being creative or having fun and learning.

            Frick them.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It's genuinely a kind of mental illness which, once it takes hold of you, requires you to divide everything else you encounter into one of two sides. You literally schizo yourself into thinking you are undergoing constant psychic war and must attack/defend everything constantly according to your own moronic dichotomy.

              I don't think he cares because he is a grown up with bills to pay and ideas to create. People who get upset over knowing whta is orisn't woke, this kind of categorisation autism is meaningless to a thinking person

              Why are you replying to yourself?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You gotta push that bump limit to hide your tattered arsehole. We get it. Sit in an ice bucket and shut the frick up.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Okay but can you answer my question

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Can you ask one that makes fricking sense? Can you answer the original question posed by the thread? Can you explain your understanding of left, right and centre in politics? Can you explain why Trench Crusade is dead on arrival because if some tweets? Just stop acting like a deranged rightwing Black person and we can help you.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Calm down, breathe

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So, you are unable.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't answer my question

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You haven't formulated one, just dodged several. You're not a serous person, just another time wasting malevolence with middling IQ.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I asked you a question just a few posts ago

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >thread is being raided by the same cuckshit spamming troony Black person freaks that have been posting the same shit nonstop all over the site for 10 years.
                Ffs you really cant have a single thread without these deranged discord goons

                Troon Crussade

                The same guy
                Probably a 40k paypig

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                take your pills schizo

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                thanks for playing

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Leftist schizo got embarrassed do hard the thread went silent

  7. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. The creator is promoting some shit. I give it3 years max before we have canon transgenders

    Also

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    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      What 3 years?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically a little woke/anti-woke controversy might help make Trench Crusade more successful.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Stop your shit

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        It will make it more popular, but popular with the wrong people.

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    No. any other questions?

  9. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    As a cheapchad, it doesn't really offer me anything the current offerings (cav strike operation, deadzone, siege of the citadel) don't have already

  10. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Alright Aestus, I know you're here.
    Sorry you just got banned from the discord kek, the moderators (and half the posters) are hypergays but you can't sperg out like that. Hell I'm deep cover, barely post on that shithole at all.
    > <Reddit space included here for visual clarity>

    Anyway, the whole question of "Is Trench Crusade Chud or Woke?" is a confused issue and a gay topic to discuss.
    Mike's got a hell of an artistic style, and he loves drawing breasts and veganas. There will continue to be breasts and veganas, beautiful ones, and this will make lefties angry.
    However, this is also a game made by explicit left wingers where all the Abrahamic religions work together to fight evil 🙂 and colonization never happened 🙂 and everyone's favorite historical factions still exist and work together 🙂 and this will make right wingers angry.
    But on the other hand, Satan is depicted as pure evil and the Catholic / Othodox churches as unambiguous good forces fighting for mankind. (Protestants never existed) so this will make left wing pagan-larpers and "satanists" angry.
    But on the other hand, the church sacrifices children as living antennae to hear the voice of god, and uses naked babes as warrior nuns and feeds people cloned jesus-meat to turn them into the hulk, somewhat unlike the real church, and this will make tradcaths angry.
    My point is that ascribing left-right politics to shit is moronic. The ruleset is pretty good and the art is neat.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >apologising to cancerous social media homosexuals because you have the same type of brain damage they do
      literally
      l i t e r a l l y
      have a nice day

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Multiple playtesters are literal troons and are outright saying that it's woke.

      We all know where this is going. Center-left guy makes cool thing. All mods on all his servers become troons ban everyone right of Mao Zedong.

      They then peer pressure him into making shit woke because everyone on the server is troons so it seems it's synonymous.

      Then the changes to the setting come. They will come in these precise steps:
      1. the demons are misunderstood and the church corrupted them to be evil
      2. Introduce noble savage faction. native Americans most likely who manage to make demons friendly. *may also be wakanda
      3. Start retconning grimdark elements.
      4. Mask off an say it always was that way.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >4. Mask off an say it always was that way.
        i mean, they may be right in this case if they corrupt it before it gets published, kek

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Then the changes to the setting come.

        Cool man, keep us posted about Trench Crusade 2, 3 and 4.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >directly came about because of b***hing about 40k being too woke
        >i-it's all those damn leftists fault!!
        Frick off. Just play the game if you want, or don't. Tuomas Pirinen doesn't give a single frick about your discord server.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          he's too buisy posting on twitter about how much he hates gamergate I guess.

          You morons will goble up whatever shit you are served as long as it's covered in some glitter on top.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            His Twitter is very Dadly
            Hold me Tuomas no homo

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          What's his endgame? He is too hench to be rightwing, they are all fat Dwarf impersonators. But he doesn't strike me as crazy-left either

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            >What's his endgame?
            he may get be rewarded with a crumb of pussy, any time now

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Pretty sure my homie b married
              And he doesn't look like a short fat Dwarf crossbowman asleep on guard duty like most ostensibly right wing wargamers

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Pretty sure my homie b married
                married men are the ultimate incels

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                This is your brain on youtube "influencers".

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            His endgame is making a cool skirmish game.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I knew he was an OG
              Real OGs just paint and play and build and make

              >Pretty sure my homie b married
              married men are the ultimate incels

              Bro

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            His endgame is making a game, but because he's not politically savy his company has been already infiltrated by people whose goal is to make it woke.

            And they are already bragging about it.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You keep hammering on the same points, as though all wargames are destined to become Mills and Boon romance novels.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's called pattern recognition

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Or you're wasting your life when you could be creating what you want to see. Which is what this hobby is.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        His endgame is making a game, but because he's not politically savy his company has been already infiltrated by people whose goal is to make it woke.

        And they are already bragging about it.

        Neither Mike nor Tuomas give a single shit about the discord. They'll respond to questions if they're directly asked, but they really could not give less of a frick if people screech at them. Mike has been doing his stuff for over a decade and Tuomas wrote Mordheim. They aren't going to change just because you morons and the other morons want to stretch this into another avenue of the culture war.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          they 100% will. screencap this

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >they 100% will
            >when Mike, whenever he goes on Twitter, either tells people to frick off if they bring that shit to him on either side or outright ignores them
            Yeah sure.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              He actually wants this to happen because then years of doing notjing in the hobby will feel justified

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah now that the anti-woke have shown interest in trench crusade the woke side has to start pressuring them disavow the chuds. Expect a "you will not be missed" type of announcement from them in the near future.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >they 100% will
              >when Mike, whenever he goes on Twitter, either tells people to frick off if they bring that shit to him on either side or outright ignores them
              Yeah sure.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Yeah now that the anti-woke have shown interest in trench crusade

              Meaningless if they don't build paint and play
              And they won't.

              If I was a creator and wedged between you and some literal transgenders who need to feel represented in Dante's Inferno meets Ernst Junger I would just focus on my creation.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >game isn't even fricking out yet and already troons worked their way into discord mod positions and destroyed it from the inside.
        I am unironically getting radicalized.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        you need a no troons policy or forget about ever having anything nice

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >However, this is also a game made by explicit left wingers where all the Abrahamic religions work together to fight evil 🙂 and colonization never happened 🙂 and everyone's favorite historical factions still exist and work together 🙂 and this will make right wingers angry.

      Yeah the thing is these people will get angry at anything vaguely in line with left wing policies so long as twitter grifters like grummz or arch tell them to. So it doesn't really matter if the game is woke or not because they'll whine no matter what.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        This, more likely they will ignore the game because anybody participating in culture war needs to ignore the 3839293738293 exceptions to the rule and play the most normie game there is

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's kind of my point. Lots of people are SO reactive that they'll find something to get mad about in any media they consume - or alternatively, will desperately try to claim it as supporting "their" ideology. I think Tuomas and Mike wanted to make a skirmish game based around cool, fricked up art. And the terminally political (comprising both left and right wingers) are now playing a moronic game of "Pin the ideology on the setting".
        Ideally I'd like everyone to enjoy the game apolitically. But failing that, perhaps we can offend both sides such that politics-brained nerds of all stripes frick off, and we're left with only those who actually want a game. Not to be a pussy, but it's genuinely disheartening as to "the state of things" that this project got subsumed into the culture war.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Ideally I'd like everyone to enjoy the game apolitically. But failing that, perhaps we can offend both sides such that politics-brained nerds of all stripes frick off, and we're left with only those who actually want a game. Not to be a pussy, but it's genuinely disheartening as to "the state of things" that this project got subsumed into the culture war.
          meh, every setting needs to have a story and values, it either has to be gay or not-gay, there's no neutral stance

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            technically you could have a gay faction, and a not-gay faction, and an unresolved conflict, and the conflict be resolved by the players, but i think that wouldn't satisfy anybody

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You could hsve no gay factions because this is a game about imaginary warfare. Sexual proclivities are not an ingame consideration. Assuming it starts somewhere in 1918 we can assume any deviation from the main populace is very much a quiet affair and not relevant.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                call it gay, gender essentialism, no trannies, or whatever you want, it's all the same thing, the point is it won't be allowed

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It just has no bearing on a Weird World War One skirmish game. It's not a value judgement about being gay or any of it. I mean, there are no cute farm animal Beastmen, either

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >there's no neutral stance

            Spoken like a true Kommissar of whatever faction you think your conspicuous consumption represents.

            Meanwhile, this is a wargame, which is a bit like a boadd game where you paint the pieces and decorate the board. Do that, because that's what the hobby is. Nothing else. Show me that.

            I am sure you have your qualities but Idc about anything else

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >story doesn't matter
              sure, whatever, good luck with your wh-bunnies-express release

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                "FLUFF" matters because it's the premise of the game.

                "LoRE" doesn't matter because it always turns into parasitism. Nerds hunger for more content and insist on it even when it kills the atmosphere or creative room in a setting. Lore enables these subtle changes you rail against. Always has because nerds can never have enough, they always consume something to death. No broadening horizons or intellectual challenges, just sequels, remakes and prequels of stuff they liked when they were nine lol

                You created the conditions for this by always needing more, always needing it official

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It just has no bearing on a Weird World War One skirmish game. It's not a value judgement about being gay or any of it. I mean, there are no cute farm animal Beastmen, either

                >"FLUFF" matters because it's the premise of the game.
                yeah, so you either have troony/women soldiers, or you don't, there's no inbetween

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Again, I don't see how transgenders have any place in a paranormally tinged alternate World War One battlefield.

                If you can model it though, it's up to you. You're being given a framework to create something which is why I think most 40kpigs should be gatekept from /awg/ because they can't handle the idea of a setting not being proscribed down to the colour of the belt buckles.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Again, I don't see how transgenders have any place in a paranormally tinged alternate World War One battlefield.
                i also don't, but i think we will both find out very soon, kek

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're tilting at windmills. I think you would rather passively observe and criticise like most conservatives instead of providing a shining example of in game, spirited modelling and play.

                You can only ever react

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I think you would rather passively observe and criticise like most conservatives instead of providing a shining example of in game, spirited modelling and play.
                i'm just having fun tbh, i don't care if it turns out to be bad, i won't play it and get on with my life, if it's good and not political i'll play it, but still get amusement from culture war garbage

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >but still get amusement from culture war garbage

                Yeah bc you're a simple c**t wasting everyones time. Your wargame is "capture the Discord" lol

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i swear i've never visited Discord nor taken estrogen

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Slippery slope my self saucing pudding

                Seriously tho, why even capitulate to that level of discussion. The only based outcome is two well made warbands painted to a decent standard clashing on a tabletop of model craters and emplacements. Everything else is quite specifically NOT the hobby.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >notice how the rats always scurry when you suggest they paint models and play a game

                Loregays were always secondaries

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Because painting models takes more effort than what the brainrotted culture warriors are capable of. All they can do is watch lore videos (play it as background noise) as they tweet engagement bait to get that sweet dopamine

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I hate them all, left right, bepenised or threepenised. Just DO the hobby, it's literally how you plant your mark on things. Even historical gamers have more room for self expression than these tourists. Surprising amounts tbqh

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you think people get into games to begin with? You think people buy models because they want to be painters? They'd buy a canvas then.
                They want to read the lore or to play with a game with people. Wokegayging destroys both. As well as corpogrubbing. Fricking bought my deathguard and 10th edition destroyed their whole gimmic before I was done painting.
                Got some beastmen and they got deleted from the game before I got done painting them.
                The only army I ever got to play with and have fun we're my T'au and it was my first army so the models look like shit.
                Now I'm stuck with a pile of plastic of models for a game that was always middling and for a setting that went to shit.
                All I am doing now is buying 3rd party models to kidbash into shit for my own setting. I have fun, but it's not the kind of fun you can have nerding out with fellow autists about lore or playing a game together. Maybe I have nostalgia glasses on, but wargames and ttrpgs used to be so much more fun before all the troons and corpos ruined it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Actually the visual element is way more powerful for me than 100,000 poorly written Black Library novels. I take my cues from actual literature thanks because I am not a one dimensional person with Star Trek PJs and a Star Grek bedspread and a sleep mask like Worf's platey head.

                Lore should be a sketch to get YOU making your own narratives. You CAN'T and this is a PROBLEM

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                then why paint models at all and not sculpt yourself or paint a painting? I don't see why someone would get into wargaming of all things because of art. It's just painting by numbers.

                Someone who actually is an artgay would get into sculpting their own clay figures or would just paint or draw as opposed to wanting to colour in something someone else made.
                Yeah no shit but for lore to be able to make my own narrative it needs to be flexible and good. It can't be fricking Gulliman calls together all space marines every 3 weeks and they all get the memo and arrive.
                You sound like some pretentious artgay who I have 0 clue how you ended up in wargames to begin with. "I take my clues from actual literature" I bet you do you b***h go on and base your army on some garbage written by Kafka.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't say that and you have an extremely limited imagination if you think in this terms. I am of course not surprised.

                Self expression is possible through painting and modelling.

                What flew over your pointy American head is the SPECTACLE which is the reason to play tabletop over a hex and counter game for example. Building terrain, creating an atomosphere. Little visual references to history. Richness. Depth. Easter eggs.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I am not american weird conclusion to jump to. The atmosphere is the lore you moron. Does the atmosphere of your game not get ruined when some retar shows up with an army painted in rainbow gay colours?

                The frick do you talk about during your games? I used to talk with my friends about the lore, and about our armies and as the lore turned to shit the games became less enjoyable as they turned more into group complaining sessions.

                You act like retconning Krieg to be Storm Troopers and all clones of one guy does not change their atmosphere. Or how GW making all mechanicus models look like moronic Da Vinci Cowboys did not ruin their atmosphere. Ot how Bettletech writing an entire book called "Queer tales from the inner sphere" would not change the atmosphere. What level of absolute mental moronation and detachment does it take to not see how playerbase, lore, models and atmosphere are connected?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >weird conclusion to jump to

                Not really, your writing has a definitive anti intellectual bent. Maybe the Netherlands lol

                >The frick do you talk about during your games?

                The game.

                >You act like retconning Krieg to be Storm Troopers

                No, I act like an adult who engages in my own narrative play without the need for oversight or officialdom. Ie the actual hobby

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > Not really, your writing has a definitive anti intellectual bent. Maybe the Netherlands lol

                Considering you are pretending to be smart while being a dimwit my guess is that you are a Black person that got into a good university on diversity hiring.

                > The game

                What? What are you actually talking about. Do you act like chess pricks "very good move fellow oponent moving that Space Marine 10 inches to the left behind the tree... blah blah blah"?

                > No, I act like an adult who engages in my own narrative play without the need for oversight or officialdom. Ie the actual hobby

                You sound like you only play with only the same people and thus don't need to be on the same page with them. You have your own completely detached lore in your head and if you tried to find new people to play with you'd act all moronic because you're talking past each other.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >you sound like
                >this is like when
                >much like

                So culturally American

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                mentally a Black person.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Emotionally fragile

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I take my clues from actual literature

                Misquote but garbage in garbage out. The people who made your favourite games don't just read Black Library kek

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                neither do I, but you are getting called a pretentious gay if you try to bring up Dostoyevsky while we are playing demons killing blueberry aliens.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're missing the point.

                You've attached a lot of meaning to something that grew around the miniatures game. I don't do this, and enjoy a degree of creative freedom loregays do not. I put gaming and hobbying above lore because lore was the route through which most of these unwanted changes was delivered. I already have my own story going on at home. Hope this helps.

                And yes, consuming ONLY fantasy novels will probably limit your intellect over time. Better than reading nothing I suppose

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > You've attached a lot of meaning to something that grew around the miniatures game. I don't do this, and enjoy a degree of creative freedom loregays do not. I put gaming and hobbying above lore because lore was the route through which most of these unwanted changes was delivered. I already have my own story going on at home. Hope this helps.

                So basically the boomer mentality "I used the hobby as it was 30 years ago to get myself a solid friendgroup I never need to venture outside. Thus frick people who care about how the lore is now."

                I hope your job forces you to move somewhere far away so you are forced to engage with the lore and new community as it is now and can't live in your bubble.

                There is nothing wrong with reading high literature, but a wargame is not the right time to talk about it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >So basically the boomer

                A lazy argument where you talk past what I am saying does not chnage that loregays are secondaries, your own comment is proof of this.

                >waow this is just like When Angron Had the Moulinex 3000 but the Apostate Slayer stopped him
                >*three hour debate* over trans coded elves

                It used to be a fun little tactical game. People were encouraged to improvise. The chinese mobile game mentality mixed with the endless need for more of the same story told over and over has NOT helped

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I think all of these "loretubers" ought to be whipped, banned from the internet and forced to get REAL JOBS.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Either that or just be forced the churn butter and grind flour while reading lore. I have no malice, but I think tying up every loose end kills a property

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I agree, it ends up looking like a Hapsburg family tree. Nerds should learn to accept the mystery like that asiatic said in A Serious Man and stop asking for more LORE, when the correct term is FLUFF.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Like, I am sure some novels are better than others but tbh it is mostly turgid prose and boss battles. Look at how they fricked Foctor Who and other properties, it's that unending need for more that just sees unique ideas spun out into nothing. Time and resources are finite, let's make some of our consumption nourishing

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > A lazy argument where you talk past what I am saying does not chnage that loregays are secondaries, your own comment is proof of this.

                I get perfectly what you say. You are a boomer who interacts with no one outside his bubble. So you don't care about anything that happens outside said bubble and you only come out to mock those who care. Like one of those troglodytes that wants to ban building new houses to inflate house prizes. A net negative to overall existance.

                > It used to be a fun little tactical game. People were encouraged to improvise. The chinese mobile game mentality mixed with the endless need for more of the same story told over and over has NOT helped

                Do you even like the shit you claim to like or do you just pretend for some reason? You sound like some old fart who does not understand why people like traditional games. Not like someone who plays them.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >muh house prices
                >do u even game bro

                I'm 38. I own one property and am about 75% into paying off the other. Sorry "Goebbels Yiffing" was your primary Google search these twenty years past.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Have you looked at Turnip 28?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm more of a The Doomed guy. Turnip 28 has yielded some cute ideas but it's not for me. Ask again when I finish my Napoelonics and have spare bits floating about.

                THAT WHOLE 28 THING is where it's at tho. 100% take back the hobby and make it yours instead of being a flyblown Youtube denizen

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                King chadman

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The spectacls of the wargames table is what separates the men from the boysinen

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You put it better than I ever could have, man.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Correctinen

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          If he keeps his mouth shut the rightoids will start screaming how the game is hecking based and red pilled and lefties will get pissed off. But if he starts butting #BLM and trans rights are human rights shit on it then lefties will soiface at it and rightoids will get mad instead. Either way one side of the culture war is going be screeching at it

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I like how being politically neutral is enough to satisfy the "rightoids" and somehow they are the bad guys.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              That's because right wingers are like a beaten dog at this point. If they could they would be pushing their shit just like the leftoids but at the moment they just have to beg for the beating to stop.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It's not that the setting being politically neutral is the issue it's that the right winger like it. The whole if 9 people eat dinner with a 1 nazi you have 10 nazis eating dinner. Every game/setting must be anti right wing or else it gets accused of being right wing

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair you usually have one Nazi eating dinner who only talks about one thing and nine vaguely right wing dudes growing ever tired of his shit but too pussy to tell him to pull his head in

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        This is the biggest projection in history. Holy frick

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          How is it projection?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You guys cannot devkate from the script. GW mishandled 10th horribly and have put up prices at least twice since it came out over a year ago. No upset there. But some jobless Norwegian who looks and talks like they belong on a registry tells you to get worked up and you lose your minds.

            You only notice what you've already been permitted to kek

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              you have my post completely backwards

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The point is, if it is only tangential to the hobby, like external politics, people swarm all over it. Ask them to actually make an impression on the hobby or even just try it and they flip the frick out

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >But on the other hand, the church sacrifices children as living antennae to hear the voice of god, and uses naked babes as warrior nuns and feeds people cloned jesus-meat to turn them into the hulk, somewhat unlike the real church, and this will make tradcaths angry.
      I was raised tradcath, and other than the child sacrifice being a smidge too on-the-nose grim derp, the rest of this sounds cool. I hate all the pussies in my religion.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I was raised tradcath
        Don't flatter yourself. You were raised in a normie post-V2 parish like everyone else.

        Lore is still Lore even when you call it fluff. Are you trying to practice troon magic where if you call a thing a different name it magically stops being the same thing?

        No, it's not. Lore is for nogames. Fluff is for people for whom actually playing tabletop wargames came first, and the other stuff was a fun backdrop for pushing around toy soldiers.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Lore is for nogames
          My Space Wolves say you are full of shit

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Lore is there to provide the tabletop gamea cassus belli. Unfortunately people are moronic and it has become its own unproductive sphere that places demands on the hobby it has no right to do so. The more lore, the more creative constraints

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              By contradicting lore you remove reasons to play, you remove reasons to be invested.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                And

                This is what they always do. They're pathological victims, even when there's nothing they can point to as actually being the issue they're screeching over.

                They have a lack of real problems in theirlives. Besides obesity, poor hygeine, lack of a personality.

                > israelites parent trying do control your hobbies idiot

                Suuuuureee anon

                You would think they would be a little tied up right now. You probably calculate how many molecules of israeli shit are in a glass of tap water

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Lack of investment leads to lack of sales and people wanting to get involved

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, you're not really saying anything

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Says the nogames

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You've yet to say anythig substantive other than vaguely defend lore as preceeding tabletop, which in this context it cannot without recorded detriment to the game.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The more lore, the greater chance of your writers (who like comedians are often miserable people) projecting their own cringeworthy foibles into the work to its detriment. ADB sticks out here, even though he's one of the better pulp authors.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                We agree. In the sphere of games, or anything creative, lore can have a chilling effect.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Marvel and DC superhero comics are the prime example of getting strangled by backstory, and that's part of why manga has ate their lunch over the last 20 years or so.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Hire actually good writers and hafeba person responsible for keeping them in check

                Frick arguably have only 1 writer per faction. We don't need 70 books releasing in a decade where the characters are completely inconsistent in every book

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              This is a bad writing problem not a lore problem.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Except.
                You haven't been paying attention.

                >it's muh esg money blackrock larry finkles
                >it's muh transbian stuffed shark dudes

                No, it's ~~*you*~~. It sucks because you phoned it in. You demanded MORE SLOP for the Slop God! And you were given it. And you will go back for more. Because conservative men over 30 are like lemmings.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why did you jump the gun and admit all the things that make these properties awful and then walk it back in the same breath?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you parse information as though you've been in the same low Iq stream for ten years

                Look up from your trough and be creative for fricks sake

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes those damn conservative men in their 30's. They ruined 40k lore.

                It was the far left troons. What crack are you smoking?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You always need more.

                >And why is there such a demand for this backstory?
                There isn't as much demand for lore as nerds think. Star Wars EU avoided this for a while by just pushing forward chronologically, even if the results were often uneven.

                It's why Marvel Comics is basically just a holding company for the handful of 30-50yo storylines and characters that people give a shit about that were mined into the MCU.

                I really am quite happy with minimal instruction when it comes to tabletop games. It is a generative kind of action storytelling

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Because conservative men over 30 are like lemmings.
                Nerd stuff has always had a internet tough guy libertarian wing. But they were never in the driver's seat, especially with respect to the actual networking of sci-fi writers.

                They're mad because the creative network that has inherited the creative reigns of the IPs both grew up enjoying are very liberal, and really into sexual idpol.

                The average conservative 30yo is a bro-country, trucks, and fishing-loving schlub who enjoyed the Avengers, but broadly thinks both the libertarian nerds and the troonjak nerds getting mad about Star Wars are both gays, inasmuch as he thinks about them.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >inasmuch as he thinks about them

                And God bless him.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      evidence of naked nun babes and jebus hulks?

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Trench Crusade, can it really become the new WH40K for cheaptards?
    It's supposed to be the new Mordheim. The ruleset is quite clearly a runback by Pirinen to do Mordheim again while fixing up all it's flaws.
    >Alt activation instead of IGO-UGO
    >Campaign system is more "Arms race-y" and relies on ongoing counterpicks instead of static builds scaling up.
    >Objective-based scenarios that makes concentration of force less overwhelming than Mordheim
    >Armor is good now, requires specialist countermeasures. Spamming cheapo infantry no longer more efficacious than every other tactic.
    >2D6 instead of 1D6
    >Way fewer tables and minutiae
    >Model agnostic, only based on base size
    >Not run by GW
    And these are all fine, fine ideas. At 28mm scale this is perfect. (He claims it's a 32mm game but nobody is listening) 40K is a "mass battle" game that can never actually attain the scale of a mass battle because it's 28mm. 28MM is the game for skirmish bands of lovingly converted models with names and backstories - and narrative rulesets to tell stories about yourdudes. Let it be Mordheim. God fricking forbid TC tried to be 40K.

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    notice how nobody was talking about culture war shit for the first 20 posts until some morons came to complain about people talking about culture war shit and shat 60 posts about it

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Both sides need to be tortured to death as far as I'm concerned. They've fricking ruined this site.

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You did actually playtest the rules, right anon?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      My group did, and we liked it. However, we're people who already prefer Mordheim and Gorkamorka to larger games so it was really a given. It's a fun system for sure.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Anything worth knowing before playing a game of it?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, it's not bogged down by 25 plus years of contradictory undergraduate baggae. Enjoy!

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I see some pretty neat conversions for trench crusade pop up occasionally on my social media feed. I prefer these aesthetics to turnip28 or whatever that is, but I'm not very enthusiastic about actually playing trench crusade.

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    As i see it, its already infeltrated by troon game testers... so no.. shit is gonna suck dick

    fr one of you lazy mfs (not me im buisy) needs to create a game where homosexualry like this isnt allowed. They already fked up 40k... whats next

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      any good open source games?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        i wish i could tell you. Was hyped for trench Crusaiders but ...alas troon and homosexuals already inside

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Presumably you could pretend to be normal for an hour, play the game with a friend and offer your feedback.

          Right wingers can only react, this is why they always lose. Progressives are swots who turn up to the opening of a chip packet. You guys are so lazy lol. Complainung is your hobby, ruining your hobby is theirs kek

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            They both deserve each other as far as I'm concerned.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              They are the same guy, just with a costume change.

              Righties don't tend to be creative types these days. Neither are they activists. They'd rather have real jobs instead of working for a pittance on some passion hobby projects. These traits put them at a disadvantage when it comes to scenarios like this. I don't think righties also hate progs as much as progs hate them.

              I have had a real job most of my life and I am definitely not left. But I am noticing the emergence of the beta b***h adchetype, they always look like Dwarves btw, all they do is whine. They never make anything, they never explore an alternative or even just outshine the more dysfunctional people this hobby attracts by simply getting good. It's wahhn big corporation needs to spoonfeed me wahhhh

              > Complaining is your hobby

              Yeah no shit, what else can you do when the kykes own half the shit and make it gay and lame... I dont eveng give a shit about a culture war shit, but i know for a favt anything troons touch turns to shit

              Ao you're a mentalist, got it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Thankfully I haven't met the type of person you described, sounds absolutely loathsome, even if they wouldn't mind me saying Black person.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nate Higgers? Can't stand the man

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                your actually mentally moronic if you think sazing troons ruining a game is mentalist shit... pls kys

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It was the reference to israelites who probably aren't trying to control your hobbies, you plaintive deranged idiot

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > israelites parent trying do control your hobbies idiot

                Suuuuureee anon

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              ah yes because one side is enjoying the game while the other infilltrates and destroys it with hay slop

              gotta love Ganker autism

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Righties don't tend to be creative types these days. Neither are they activists. They'd rather have real jobs instead of working for a pittance on some passion hobby projects. These traits put them at a disadvantage when it comes to scenarios like this. I don't think righties also hate progs as much as progs hate them.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            > Complaining is your hobby

            Yeah no shit, what else can you do when the kykes own half the shit and make it gay and lame... I dont eveng give a shit about a culture war shit, but i know for a favt anything troons touch turns to shit

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'd say the bigger problem is that with rightwingers everyone wants to be the boss.

            There is 100 different rightwingers trying to make their own game. But there is 100 leftists who instead want to become communit managers and mods for someone elses game.

            I am frankly no better considering I am making my own thing too. Rightwingers have an indidivdualism problem.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I think these distinctions are largely becoming meaningless. The soup of humanity has boiled over, only pondscum remains. Nobody is zeeking that grand spectacle of the old wargames anymore. It's all a vehicle for their personal bullshit.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why wouldn't you test the game yourself to provide your own balanced views?

      >this should be good

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Because my input would be drowned in the sea of moronic troons / ugly fat bicthes with colored hair... Frankly its like asking a black man to go in KKK meeting and provide his "balanced views"..

        > Because in the 2024...there is only troon shit

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          So you admit you want to lose and have a masochistic cry like the bottom Black Rife coffee beta b***h you are haha.

          Just ASSUME trannies will be there by applying your own rule and do your thing. They can't really hurt you. Presumably they can't read to your children because they are mounting a planetwide assault on autistic male pasttimes.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            > Trannies will be there, nothing bad will happen, just ignore them
            > fill the game with gay shit and retcons

            You must be specially mentally moronic, or just dont follow the 40k shitstorm

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              What is there to retcon
              It's an alternate ww1 setting
              That's your starting point
              Flecktarn and fae
              Just admit your relationship to the hobby is also basic parasitism

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why do some crosses have little roofs on them?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's a home for a dead person

      I was in the playtesting for the game, there are loads of black people and women. It will be a complete rug pull on anyone who wants a based non political game.

      >t. black woman

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I was in the playtesting for the game, there are loads of black people and women. It will be a complete rug pull on anyone who wants a based non political game.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's so fricking over.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Do you really believe that? How does "loads of women and black people" work in ww1 unless theynare nurses or French colonial tirailleurs?

        This is why anti intellectualism is a cancer. It just makes you easier to herd

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          it doesn't work on any logical level. That's why you know the game will be shit. Things that don't make sense are being included for woke points.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            > bros enjoy game, sharing lore
            > political snobs enter and start destroying the lore
            > fans complain online in threads
            > " UHHhhm ackshualy rightwing echochambers wont help"

            Anon snwer honestly, How much melanin do you have?

            You guys should capitulate some more.

            It will make great ragebait content for other people not engaged by the hobby

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Things that don't make sense are being included for woke points.

            Pending: one (1) example

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Black folk and women are 2 things already Anon

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                In the game you stupid excuse for a man. Show me where in the game there are elements you would deem woke. A quote or a screenshot ofa page, artwork, something.

                At the end of the day, you want it to be there so you can play at being persecuted.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                its only a matter of time, majority of playtesters and artists are Troons l

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So zero examples, just circular reasoning

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > 0 examples

                Name any major hobby/game that hasnt been reduced to slop by including troons?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I look forward to the repealing of the civil rights act as well, but aren't you giving them too much credit?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, i would say not enough.. . i can also blame greedy corpo executives (jews) and whiteknighting dewvelopers... but when it all noils down to is either trannies,or middle aged white women

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Middle aged white women mindlessly enforce whatever they're told the social consensus is. They're like an airstrip windsock: a symptom highlighting the prevailing issue, not its cause.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                your right anon... i was foolish...what do you think is te cause?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Sexual dysfunction among the future managerial-technocratic class - self-fetishization combined with the zero-sum attention economy.

                There's a disjoint around 2012-15 when IG and apps ate the world and the nerd stereotype went from "has an fat/ugly gf" to "incel". The incel->troon pipeline is well known of course.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                holy shit Anon... you are a bloody fkn genius.. it all makes sense now...

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Non answer

                >Caring about lore is culture war

                Prioritising lore makes you a nogames gay
                Lore allowed many of the ESG styled changes to take place
                Fluff made players focus on their own narrative
                Expressed via tabletop gaming and crafting
                Lore killed 40k
                And it kills most other things
                Never take it seriously

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Lore is still Lore even when you call it fluff. Are you trying to practice troon magic where if you call a thing a different name it magically stops being the same thing?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Lore: 1028373728292927 hours of YouTube Parasitism, listening to people sperg out in the LGS, 2728299282727289393 poorly written Black library novels, every loose end tied up,all mystery removed from the setting

                Fluff: basically ww1 just kept going and it made demons appear, now go make a game!

                Hope this helps

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Both Primaris and Female Custodes have been added in the army books and not in Black Library books.

                You are legitimately deluded if you think less lore somehow means the lore is harder to subvert.

                In fact less lore means you can change more things without contradictiong previously established things.

                What you are just describing is bad writing. Knowing what is important to be left unsaid is as important as what you say.

                I personally belive the Horus Heresy books should never have been written for example.

                >I was raised tradcath
                Don't flatter yourself. You were raised in a normie post-V2 parish like everyone else.

                [...]
                No, it's not. Lore is for nogames. Fluff is for people for whom actually playing tabletop wargames came first, and the other stuff was a fun backdrop for pushing around toy soldiers.

                Less lore does not mean it's less hard to subvert. Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017 when when general-dwelling apes decided they hate the main good thing about Warhammer, stop pretending it's what came first.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                And in what manner were these female custodes added? Anon?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Dropped out of nowhere in the new codex.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Say it shill
                It was couched in... llll... say it... lore

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                What is even the distinction now?

                I thought lore was the stuff in BL books while fluff was the stuff in the Codex. This was in the codex so it's fluff, no?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                We already established the distinction
                You've had an outline for play for three decades. More

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017

                Gottem. Secondary triangulated, begin orbital bombardment in three rels

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017
                Election tourist newbie off the forward bow! All hands to your battle stations!

                Get a load of this mon'keigh

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017 when
                Pathetic.

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017
                I cannot even fathom being as new and moronic as you are. I doubt you were even born when the term Fluff was first being used.

                For someone who keeps talking about “subversion” our friend

                Both Primaris and Female Custodes have been added in the army books and not in Black Library books.

                You are legitimately deluded if you think less lore somehow means the lore is harder to subvert.

                In fact less lore means you can change more things without contradictiong previously established things.

                What you are just describing is bad writing. Knowing what is important to be left unsaid is as important as what you say.

                I personally belive the Horus Heresy books should never have been written for example.

                [...]
                Less lore does not mean it's less hard to subvert. Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017 when when general-dwelling apes decided they hate the main good thing about Warhammer, stop pretending it's what came first.

                here is trying really hard to subvert the idea of fluff by pretending it’s some new term. Sounds like heavy deflection to me.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017
                Election tourist newbie off the forward bow! All hands to your battle stations!

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Get a load of this mon'keigh

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017 when
                Pathetic.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017
                I cannot even fathom being as new and moronic as you are. I doubt you were even born when the term Fluff was first being used.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Fluff is a therm which originated in 2017
                kys you shameless lying piece of shit

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You guys are angry at something you cannot provide a single example of other than

                >there are trannies on discord

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                This is what they always do. They're pathological victims, even when there's nothing they can point to as actually being the issue they're screeching over.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > 0 examples

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but the majority of nerds love Black folk and girlbosses in their hobbies. While basically all the online fascists are legitimate nerds ('Star Trek special episode' should be on the bingo card for fascist podcasts), most nerds like trannies, feminism, and socialism. The null hypothesis of a nerd's politics should be "pot-smoking hippie crypto-commie", not crypto-fash.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Lying.

      ah yes because one side is enjoying the game while the other infilltrates and destroys it with hay slop

      gotta love Ganker autism

      Not really. Making a rightwing echo chamber is a failure to gatekeep. Focus on the damned hobby or do something else

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        > bros enjoy game, sharing lore
        > political snobs enter and start destroying the lore
        > fans complain online in threads
        > " UHHhhm ackshualy rightwing echochambers wont help"

        Anon snwer honestly, How much melanin do you have?

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >backed it on kickstarter
    >motherfricker has still not shipped

    Yeah nah GW will always remain on top simply because you can actually buy their shit and not have to wait around for all the influencers to get their copies first.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >simply because you can actually buy their shit

      When did this happen

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Yeah nah GW will always remain on top simply because you can actually buy their shit and not have to wait around for all the influencers to get their copies first.
      Hahahahahaha

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Too few models, too few decades of parody piled up into lore, no rich shop presence already. Most people into 40k now are there because the scene exists, not because they have the capacity to help build one.

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >those planes
    Can WW1 trench warfare co-exist with a modern-day airforce?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The Ukrainians were digging trenches while the Russians still had an effective airforce

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I DON'T WANT 40K Black folk IN MY GAMES DAMMIT, WE'RE FULL, FRICK OFF

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Just letting you all know
    >There will not be anything preventing female and or black troops
    >the core rule book will directly imply there are black and female troops
    >the female head sculpts will be ugly
    >there is no escape

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >no source

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think the divide in this thread is between people who are just baselessly assuming Trench Crusade will be everything they liked about 40k (i.e vraks + even more gothic imagery) without all the stuff they didn't like about 40k (like the emperor being an atheist and not Christian in any sense of the word)

    and the people who AREN'T assuming that because we haven't actually gotten that much to go off of.
    the fighting here is about SHOULD we be told if it is just 40k but better or should it be left open ended

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Third point of view, 40k isn't the only reference point for a good game and if chasing nostalgia of older versions didn't satsify you then playing a different game may not. Treat it on its merits.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure there are folks who are here for trench crusade with as little knowledge of 40k as you can have in the wargame sphere, but they are the minority.

        This thread is mostly made up of people who fled starwars in the late 2010's and are now fleeing 40k in the mid 2020's

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Ok.
          I reattempted 10th after playing 2nd and 3rd. I did not care for the experience and play Kings of War, Hail Caesar, amongst others. This game does not interest me but I liked Mordheim so I hope it does well.

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Again, isn't this a skirmish game? Everything I've seen about it is individual models in a warband. It's not even the same genre as warhammer if so.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You do know that Warhammer is not 1 game right? People are excited about the setting. If it's a competitor to anything it's a competitor to Killteam.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >People are excited about the setting.

        They are?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          YES, it's the whole reason I started buying 40k in 3rd edition

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick is this stupid fricking thread

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Talking about something on Twitter, where some rw guy shilled Trench Crusade because "40k is woke now", without realizing that the creators are buddies with the "woke writers" at GW, and the Discord steering committee of the game is filled with trannies.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Discord steering committee of the game is filled with trannies
        I mean at this point I'm convinced that's what discord is intended for.

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Trench crusade is a story not a setting

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >the discord is meant for the trannies
    >*you are here*
    >the authors just act PC as a smoke screen
    >the black characters were always allowed unlike 40k
    > Wheelchairs are totally normal for trench crusade see in this novel...
    >"oh whats this new game Christ Krieg"

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Talking about something on Twitter, where some rw guy shilled Trench Crusade because "40k is woke now", without realizing that the creators are buddies with the "woke writers" at GW, and the Discord steering committee of the game is filled with trannies.

      >Discord steering committee of the game is filled with trannies
      I mean at this point I'm convinced that's what discord is intended for.

      I don't understand this level of defeatism. I have no love for Trench Crusade, but the sheer level of despair surrounding wokies in modern media is borderline tragically hilarious. The game isn't even out yet and you are already scattering, flailing about and fighting each other in some bizarre witch hunt.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Never had a problem with black people in 40k anyways, its the changing of lore for ESG points I have a problem with, they could have put a spotlight on Sisters of Battle or Sisters of Silence or on a female Inquisitioner but no, we need female Custodes and trans propaganda for easy ESG points.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Anon is not opposed to the causes only to the effects

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, I get the point about Custodes drama. I'd wish they tweaked "Daughters of the Abyss" rules so they can do their lore thing of being a psychic shield for Custodes. My mine point wasn't about the Custodes though. I just meant that a lot of people in nerd spaces have a tendency to freak out and scatter the moment they feel threatened. Instead of closing ranks and defending their hobby, they freak out, scatter into factions before shooting themselves in their feet at full auto.

          I didn't say all that. I just think discord is deliberately operated as a subversion front.

          I never had such an issue on discord, though I did get kicked out by bunch of weirdos few times.

          They fricking love it
          Spiritual bottoms

          >Spiritual bottoms
          Nice term. Personally I prefer to call them masochists or, in memory of an old edgy meme, vengeance fetishists.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            If they weren't railing against the hibby they would have to DO the hobby. Which would paradoxically fix a lot of the cultural and political issues but I think they prefer to luxuriate in how bad everything is despite having infinite choice.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Some do, undoubtedly. Like many things, it's venting about the annoying traits of their colleagues and friends. Where outside of nerd shit like anime, tabletop games, tech, and alt-music are you going to see the AGPs that have been memed on for the last few years? It's people venting about their social circles.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The other problem is also the gaslighting, if they said it was a recent change to recruiting because of attrition or something I would not be having as much of an issue as this "there have always been female Custodes" gaslighting bullshit.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't say all that. I just think discord is deliberately operated as a subversion front.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        They fricking love it
        Spiritual bottoms

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's not defeatism. It's the sober observation that most nerd hobbies are run by a network of creatives who are all pals, and out of genuine belief, status games, or plain old "worked themselves into a shoot" - have taken the creative direction basically everything towards the POVs you'd see in a grad-school gender or colonial studies course.

        Nerds have always skewed liberal and pushed those frontiers. It's no surprise that this island of misfit toys continues to do this to this day, nor is it surprising that in the semantic drift people who are stuck in the Bill Clinton c.1998 firmware feel left behind.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          To be honest, I'm unironically too European to fully feel it. Our scene is a fair bit weirder in a different direction.

          If they weren't railing against the hibby they would have to DO the hobby. Which would paradoxically fix a lot of the cultural and political issues but I think they prefer to luxuriate in how bad everything is despite having infinite choice.

          Yeah, that makes sense. You can fix a lot of issues in your hobby just by being an active member of it.

          The other problem is also the gaslighting, if they said it was a recent change to recruiting because of attrition or something I would not be having as much of an issue as this "there have always been female Custodes" gaslighting bullshit.

          Yeah, that was a dick move. Full on dickhead behaviour.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Some do, undoubtedly. Like many things, it's venting about the annoying traits of their colleagues and friends. Where outside of nerd shit like anime, tabletop games, tech, and alt-music are you going to see the AGPs that have been memed on for the last few years? It's people venting about their social circles.

            Literally the hobby reflects YOU the more YOU do it. You can make it better fit your vision by following thru.

            Spiritual bottoms are not creative. They just want to get topped and wail

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Are we seriously pretending creating a whole new IP doesn't take a lot of time and money, something not everyone has access too?
              >But we spend a lot of money on toy soldiers
              No, it's a lot more than that, and in a much shorter time frame.
              I encourage everyone in this thread to just think small and just play something with your circle as far removed from current events as possible. Me and my buddies, fir example, have just gone back to 40K 4th Edition with hombrew modifications as a way to escape nulore and homosexual marxists and american-type right wingers. You could do that, FOURK, OPR, another game entirely... Whatever, point is you homosexuals could be playing something nice instead of acting like middle aged karens here.
              Anyways, think about it and do what you will. As for me, I'm not gonna touch this hrt-infested thread again.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Never said they have to create their own game, just gameinen likeyou are sayinginen

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              At this point, my ERP group seems to have more creative stuff going on. Thanks for being a voice of reason, dude. I'm leaving this thread until I get super bored.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Allyougottadoishobby mang
                But always /yourway/
                Go with Godinen

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah, that was a dick move. Full on dickhead behaviour.
            Retcons are literally how every change to 40k happens. Even Primaris were a retcon, turns out there was actually this guy named Cawl etc.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              No one cares
              Dead game

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Cawl's shit only took affect recently in the timeline

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Frick Cawl. homie can't even make an espresso

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        This entire thread spawned off a tweet from some anti-woke twitter gay, it was just morons looking to whine about politics from the word go.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Christ Krieg huh, not a bad name. I'd have it be WW2 but with Abrahamic angels and demons joining in and of course the demons side with the allies

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >"Huh, a thread about the new game. I wonder what they're talking ab..."
    >Just marxists and incels in their daily "smallest brain contest"

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Idc Tuomas is fricking hench
      Look at this beefy boi

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >herd u talkin' shit about my gameinen
    >might have to throw a few punches in your faceinen

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >oh look let me get you another rulebook
    >this one appears to be FRICKING RIPPED

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Will this give me the Grimdark fix 40k's been failing to give for the past 7 years?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I think as long as you can handle that it's Earth-bound and much of the fighting tech will come from the Battle of the Marne you should be fine.

      Ypur best 40k replacement1:1 is in my view Xenos Rampant. This seems unique

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    These guys look cool

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yep gr8 artwork so far

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't really care for the look of the other factions, but this guy alone convinced me I'll do Belzebuddies if I ever feel like making a few heavy conversion models.

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Bump for hopefully actual discussion of Trench Crusade.

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Wrong wile attached?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      These people literally can't have anything nice. Trench Crussade is a manifesto against Christianity and militarism.

      Yeah. Christ and war is bad you guys

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Christ...is bad
        That's not the point of the imagery, it's evoking centuries of atrocity and aggression carried out by power-hungry killers that use Christ as their excuse. Quit acting like you're a victim when you're not paying attention to historical context that's being referred to.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The Church is only using the teachings of Christianity to justify their crimes. There is no contradiction.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            It is fairly meaningless in a parallel world setting. It's not the actual Church that drives old ladies back from Bingo or sells cakes to fix a fence. Bit of perspective please.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why are leftists so categorically fricking moronic always. I have never seen one of these gays on twitter make a good point. Ever. Not even once. You would think once in a rare while they might have something that makes you stop and go "okay I concede on that one, I guess even you can be right about something 2% of the time" but no. Every single post. Every tweet. Permanent wrong moronic homosexual mode on lock.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Has nothing to do with leftists. Go on Facebook right now and look at the shit your team spews all over the local news stations comment section. Have some humility

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            It's the leftists

            look at the kind of shit they say

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              He has a pount bruh, leftists are genuinely the most braindead and dishonest people on the internet, even worse than the average foxnews watching anti-woke boomer

              [...]

              I'm a normal Ganker dude with a cute passing trannoid gf. We find these Twitter leftists fricking annoying and sparklefur tier, but rightoids drop the whole "don't tread on me i wont tread on you thing, we're totally fine with le 'normal' homos" pretty quickly and always end up making homophobic comments thinking we'll laugh too. İf you are lucky and find a group of people who don't give a shit politically, that's best, but if we can't find that it's safer to go with leftoids. Frankly leftoid historians are actually the best and know how to properly build settings that don't feel forced, one of my professors was a prime example back in the 3.5 days lol
              Anyway it's not leftist vs rightist to me, it all comes down to how much of a CONSOOMER the person is.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Normal fit dude with a troony, fricking hell your nation has fallen.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That was such obvious b8 I can't even. This is the other thing, you Black Rifle Coffee constitutional carry obese VA welfare queens are so easily baited it's fricking hilarious.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not even american moron. Aren't they sleeping right now?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Soundly tucked away after a night of smashing it to porn and moralising at strangers on the internet.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The Ganker -> /lgbt/ pipeline was not a joke huh.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            He has a pount bruh, leftists are genuinely the most braindead and dishonest people on the internet, even worse than the average foxnews watching anti-woke boomer

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    not gonna lie it looks bad. It's trying to hard to be grimdark edgy shit.
    They could take the same exact concept and tone it down and itd work better

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's your complaint? "It's not generic enough."

      I hate this fricking website

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        not what i said at all but generic can be good

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is it that hard to make a setting that portrays the good side in a mature yet visually pleasing manner, while the other clearly evil but so unique it's interesting?
    "Church corrupt and scary but demons are worse" is a bit overdone imo

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    oh no thread got poltarded. As expected from a bait setting

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, you truly have to pity the dimwitted rightwingers. They adore the aesthetics of grimdark. The violent imagery, the references to all the all the religious and military stuff from history, the seeming license that is given to do whatever the frick you want no matter how awful....

      The trouble is grimdark as a genre generally mocks these things and exposes them as insane nonsense. The notion that anyone is serious about this stuff is just laughable to the people who write this stuff. It's really not surprising then that it attracts left-leaning types as well.

      Normal people understand this, but /misc/tards are a bit slow on the uptake. They eventually discover that the setting has attracted the "wrong people" at which point they are driven to meltdown. "How is it possible that "they" are involved in this thing that I think is based?". "How dare they like the thing I like?". Frick, the game isn't even out and people are already hyperventilating about "them". It's all so incredibly pathetic. Exactly the sort of terminally online losers that they accuse the other side of being.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I will now argue the other point of you - you can't seem to learn from the "Ken" effect of understanding the audience has their own narrative as well as the official one. Ken was a himbo, just like me 🙂 you have to let people enjoy the art however they will, let go of that desire to control and centralise

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          These people are not here to enjoy the art and this is obvious from the things they're writing. Quite what does dragging out twitter posts to mock someone's appearance and talk about how much they hate them have to do with "enjoying the art" I really don't know.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            So you have that much in common.

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    None of you deranged Nazi adjacent wienersuckers have even looked at the game. Now you're grandstanding and still haven't read it let alone played it.

    Capitulate harder, it's what you love. The only victimhood you can claim so like everyone else you go for it, ignoring the object lesson entirely

    Keep debasing yourself off the back of mi imal information, it's funny. .

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >None of you deranged Nazi adjacent wienersuckers have even looked at the game
      Go frick yourself, I've been a fan of Mike Franchina's art for longer than you've even known /tg/ existed you tourist gay. Also you people are the actual fricking nazis.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >You People

        Just read the game and get back to me, Spiritual Bottom

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    hilarious how pol this thread is getting, why did anyone think actual catholic grim dark was a good idea

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because it looks boss as hell and was a great idea until they let trannies get involved who obviously just have an agenda to destroy it from inside.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        honestly its expected the setting is too baity. Theres morons on here that get worked up into a screaming fit over 40k and thats the most mild grim dark ever.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >show me where this is happening... to, ahem, Trench Crusade

        Just show me you passive beta b***h

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You can literally just fricking scroll up

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, and you're talking about some people playtesting the game in Discord. Surprise, they are freaky Discord people. Are you this fragile? All you have to do is participate, make an effort, imprint on life. You won't.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >go to discord
              >try to talk about the lore
              >get told opinions are wrong badthink because they aren't worshipping queer troonywieners and hating christianity or whatever
              >banned by trooney tunes mods
              Ahh yes, truly makes me want to participate.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Has this happened
                Show me on the doll where the troony touched you
                Do you just stay home all the time in case a gay person asks you when the next bus is
                Can you give feedback on a game without sperging out?
                I mean, don't get me wrong - I am not falling over myself to collect sexual minorities for a game but there is an element to which you guys always choose to run away, and then make a reaction video. It's cowardice. If your ideas are sound, represent them. Or shut the frick up

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You are mentally ill.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                If that were true I would have no problem fitting in on a discord full of creepy men in dresses who call themselves "lesbians" and probably groom kids

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >probably

                M8. Play the game or don't. You're reaching. Compared to 40k or AOS it will never have a troony player base that big. Have you given up on women too?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous
              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah m80
                That's what happens when you're a shutin
                Proactive people get to frick the prom queen
                Rugged individualism writ large

                More like I'm pretty sure he's trying to fake a /misc/ raid, way to obvious.

                I don't even care, America is not the world

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                What an abomination, hard to believe he is a real person. Too on the nose for parody.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, real, wrote some very long articles about why 40k needs to be more of this and less of that. Tiresome. But that's why you guys need to do better than roll over and spread your cheeks.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So I guess when you see one you stop drop and roll

                The hard question is what can be done against these people to keep them away from our hobbies.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Stop supporting moronic centrists just because they can draw pretty pictures. Support settings made by people who are racist. Even if you are a rightwing centrist. The only way you can trust whatever game you are playibng won't be subverted is if the guy who made it is so rightwing that he chases away all troons and Black folk and is excommunicated to a point of no comeback.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. Stop wedging people, it never goes your way.

                [...]

                The hard question is what can be done against these people to keep them away from our hobbies.

                Already address jn the thread. It'sliterally by doing the hobby. The hobby is for your self expression. If you participate it reflects you. If you cry and make a reply video it's just noise in the ether.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                stop being a moronic centirst. Every single hobby I was 'just doing' got completely taken over and destroyed.

                I am making my own game and I am not gonna let a single fricking troon, Black person,m homosexual or israelite play it. I am also very close to banning women too.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Cool man don't care, you're obviously a dolt who needs to get good.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                name a single hobby your approach of 'just do the hobby' stopped from going to shit you moron

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I don't have to.
                >by playing historicals 50% of the time I filter WAACgays, grey sea armies, unwashed creeps and the intellectually lazy
                >by substituting culture war media with stuff that inspires me my experience if it is totally different to your miserable one where each day is a battle to be "right"
                >by only interacting with people via the hobby and hobby related topics the consciousness is raised and the relationship I have to these people pragmatic and friendly both
                >when someone gets political or even just idpol obsessed I ask them whether they want to take the conversation offline. You don't get freedom of speech at a gaming table where women and children are running about. You behave respectfully or you literally get thrown onto the street

                No problems so far. I think most of you just want to be upset all the time. All politics must be gatekept out of the hobby or we end up dealing with turds like you or Elvira: Mistress in the local Park

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                name a single hobby your approach of 'just do the hobby' stopped from going to shit you moron

                what hobbies? from my perspective it seems to be only normshit IPs/products that get attention and whose owners decide to broaden the appeal of the product, which sucks all the same, but I don't see whole hobbies being effected

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I agree. You guys should just go play MYFAROG or whatever and leave the rest of us alone. Somehow I don't think you will.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >MYFAROG 2.0 will host a diverse new range of characters plus non moronic mechanics. Being dark skinned now gives you a bonus in wienerstrength (CS) and allows you to cast MR Boost (melanin receptor) on friendky female party members when injured once per game.

                Frick, Blackrock got to Varg...

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                People so far either direction make bad games when they actually make them at all, you need the centrists to actually produce shit.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                This. They think we are just milquetoasts but we are too busy patching up society from their wanton destruction lol

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You can have centrists to produce shit, but the boss must be far right. A centrist boss will hire far leftists, a far right one will not to hire leftists.

                This is really not that hard. Again look how quickly trench crussade was ruined because the vaguely centrist bossman got only troons to playtest his game and be mods on his official discord.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >moronic take

                What's your game about Anonette

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                On the geopolitical level about colonialism and a brewing religious civil war.

                On a metaphysical level about conflict between wizards and extradimensional beings, as well as the conflict between civilisation and nature.

                I am for now doing a ttrpg because I do not have the resources to make a wargame and that may be a good way to get some innitial audience.

                >trench crussade was ruined

                The evidence, unlike your good self, is thin

                scroll up moron.

                what part of trench crusade was ruined? hell what part of trench crusade do you even know about? i guarantee you most people in this thread are like myself and didnt know anything about past the surface before this thread and most still dont

                I used to follow it when it was just art. When it was announced it's becoming a game I knew from the start it'd be fishy. I checked shit about the creator.

                He is center right himself, but one of the coauthors he hired worked on Diablo 4 (woke garbage). He also plays D&D and the members of his group include outspoken far left activists.

                After that until the current drama I basically forgot trench Crussade existed. Now i see i was vindicated. Troon playtesters outright saying the game is woke. Blacks talking about how the point of the game is to say "christianity is bad". Warhammer rejects trying to jump ship onto it without even bothering to check.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah so you're a fricking delusional low IQ waste of oxygen, your due diligence is done.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I bet you're a Black person

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I am actually 8 koalas in a trenchcoat, and I fricked your mum to death.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                My brother in christ you mentioned nothing about the game only that the guy is a normal member of society and knows people from both sides.

                If you left the house you would find that you will get friends and many of them wont agree with you politically about everything and thats okay.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                your mom's a normal member of society and gets railed from two sides.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                His argument basicaly amounts to

                >you mustn't talk to Stacey, she's a... *whisper* leftist

                It's gay af. Imagine being this unable to navigate the world.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You sound like a deeply unpleasant political fanatic and the people who work on trench crusade sound like normal members of society who just happen to have different political views.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You really should justy have a nice day you waste of oxygen. I am right, it happened so many times unless you are mentally moronic you should know that.

                Normies are such a fricking lost cause at this point. Can't wait until Trench Crussade becomes so shit it's even obvious to your birdbrain and you try to jump ship to another half sunken wrenk.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                What games do you play Anonette

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing mainstream currently as all has gone to hsit. Mostly nation roleplay games and godgames. Also some boardgames like chess and risk.

                "I am right, i cant prove it but everyone who disagrees with me should kill themselves because i am right"

                Seek mental help before you waste your life not actually enjoying anything or speaking to anyone.

                moronic waste of oxygen

                These people literally can't have anything nice. Trench Crussade is a manifesto against Christianity and militarism.

                Yeah. Christ and war is bad you guys

                [...]
                Wrong wile attached?

                Why do they all look like this holy frick I'm going to puke

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So nothing
                Kewl

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Well good for you and more importantly for us too. Stay in your sanatorium with the other 17 weirdos.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Cope and seethe. I've been running the games for 5+ years. Cumulatively I had dozens of players. Many of my players went on to also run games and the guy who got me into it still runs games.

                It's niche and comfy instead of your corporate dreg where you talk more about hrt and transphobia than games you play

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Cope and seethe.
                More like relief and joy. Christ, imagine an butthole like you shitting up some poor LGS. Some poor kid walks in to ask about a game only to get a tirade about how the designers aren't racist enough.

                Stay in you nuthouse, you're doing everyone a favor.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                desighners indeed are not racist enough and you know it... also why do you want to talk to kids?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I know basement dwelling losers like yourself don't know this but public places have people of various ages. When you're playing a game with your buddy and someone comes along to ask about it you can answer politely

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                > far left
                > pro troon
                > Wants to talk to other people's kids
                You're a pedophile aren't you?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >you are asked a question in a public place
                >you answer
                >omg pedo

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                talking to kids is not the first thing I think off when it comes to playing tabletop games.

                I knew there were pedophiels on Ganker, but I imagined they were less obvious about it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                "I am really glad there are no conservatives in the LGS to interrupt me trying to flirt with children"

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, someone is going to flirt with kids in a public place, the LGS I invented to illustrate a point. Keep going guys, you're almost making sense.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                talking to kids is not the first thing I think off when it comes to playing tabletop games.

                I knew there were pedophiels on Ganker, but I imagined they were less obvious about it.

                You guys unironically need to be kept away from developing minds. When you're in a shared space with families you shouls set an example but you're incapable.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think molesting kids is setting a good example.

                Yes, someone is going to flirt with kids in a public place, the LGS I invented to illustrate a point. Keep going guys, you're almost making sense.

                Those were your words not mine pedo scum. It's obvious why you want rightwingers out of ttrpgs.

                Care to bring up how leftists literally hired convicted pedophiles to be judges as a MtG tournament attended by kids?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Good, stop doing it then Paco
                We have estbalished that you don't game, have no familiarity with Trench Crusade and were rejected by a Finn troony that looks like Shrek. Oh and you hate Centrists. Anything else? You intellectual fricking void. You gub gub snailman

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh how the pedophile deflects and recoils.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You do? You have been for most of the thread. Btw go to /misc/ - the tone js enough to give Nabokov pause for thought.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >you are a pedo
                >because if some kids ask you something in an LGS you will answer
                Jesus Christ, you literally have 0 contact with people don't you?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Keep deflecting leftoid scum. "I just wanted to explain the rules of D&D to the child."

                explain that to the judge, or better your fellow inmates

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one who associates conversation in a public place surrounded with a bunch of people with literal sexual assault.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You sound a little unsure of yourself but that's probably just the illiteracy talking. Another Mexican white nationalist jej

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                "I am right, i cant prove it but everyone who disagrees with me should kill themselves because i am right"

                Seek mental help before you waste your life not actually enjoying anything or speaking to anyone.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >You really should justy have a nice day you waste of oxygen. I am right, it happened so many times unless you are mentally moronic you should know that.
                A deeply unpleasant political fanatic.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                centrists are a literal waste of sapce that contribute nothing

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You have spent this entire thread moaning that game designers arent extreme enough for your tastes and their games will fail because of this. but literally no game made by extremists is any good.

                Hell you dont even play any of these games by your own admission

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                hes a violence fetishist aka a fascist.
                You can give em the most extreme game ever made and it wont be extreme enough

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I run nation roleplay games. My biggest game has 17 players. I wrote the rules, because these games a 1 page type deal.

                I'm a political extremist. Your statement talks apart instantly. It's disproven by my very existence.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                if your games were any good people would know about them.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Pushing of the overton window has begun. We went from "you don't play games and they're not good" to "well they're not popular so it doesn't count".

                I don't advertise nation roleplay on purpose btw. I like only cool peoples being into it. I like being one of the only people in the world running it because I can easily gatekeepe out troons and shit libs trying to push politics not play.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >trench crussade was ruined

                The evidence, unlike your good self, is thin

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                what part of trench crusade was ruined? hell what part of trench crusade do you even know about? i guarantee you most people in this thread are like myself and didnt know anything about past the surface before this thread and most still dont

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >trench crussade was ruined

                The evidence, unlike your good self, is thin

                Well, you see, he saw a twitter post where some trans person apparently helped play test it. Because anon hates trans people this now means the game is awful. Rinse and repeat versions of this moronic logic and you get the rest of this moronic thread.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I mean the person in question is a moron. I read their shitty articles and guffawed at their perilous aesthetic. But why do the same people give up and go home when they are done? It's almost like they want to luxuriate in their hurtbox because there is no clear victim category for them lol.

                IF YOU JUST DO THE HOBBY WELL AND RAISE THE FREQUENCY NONE OF THIS MATTAHS

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                leftists are genuinely a problem though, they think a setting is right wing if milk is mentioned. You can't really reason with that sort of person

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It is indeed very difficult to reason with a fictional caricatures

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks im making it up

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No you cant reason with morons online no matter what or where they are. go out into the real world and youll find people of all sides who are reasonable.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                This is very true but not a reason to become the stereotype of what a man called Emily who wears diapers thinks. Don't centre your life on that.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why do they all look like this holy frick I'm going to puke

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Because they are blokes. Now get over yourself and do a hobby

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Of course these two slaaneshi demons know each other

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >chinblocking with a mini of a nurgle demon
                It's got layers.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure it means anything to have done playtesting for the game. I mean, playtesting have been available for a few months already on the 28 discord (since last August or somthing iirc ?), so basically anyone could pretend to have done playtesting for it, unless it talks about playtesting before that.

                that's basically the pipeline

                1. troons weasle their way into mod possitions
                2. troons purge everyone right of Karl marx
                3. "look the whole community wants these things changed everyone egrees" - pressure people to do what you want

                Saw it even happen to formerly rightwing people. A guy I knew was making his own game and used his youtube and server to promote it. The day his first video made it big a troon came and started tone policing and demanding mod positions.

                Eventually he demanded that a single free speech channel s created. that's when he started sending agitators to start shitflinging so eventually that was shut down too and everyone was banned.

                Then I shit you not he opened a "meet the mods" chat where you were supposed to thank and worship all the mods.

                He also killed the guys game because he flooded the entire server with warhammer and reddittards who had 0 ibnterest in gamedev. All the people into gamedev got banned,

                The guy turned full woke. Dropped his game which was basically complete and now reads warhammer related reddit stories while eternally stuck at 20 000 subscribers.

                The 28 discord isn't a great place to have its community indeed but I can understand they didn't want to bother with moderation.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                that's basically the pipeline

                1. troons weasle their way into mod possitions
                2. troons purge everyone right of Karl marx
                3. "look the whole community wants these things changed everyone egrees" - pressure people to do what you want

                Saw it even happen to formerly rightwing people. A guy I knew was making his own game and used his youtube and server to promote it. The day his first video made it big a troon came and started tone policing and demanding mod positions.

                Eventually he demanded that a single free speech channel s created. that's when he started sending agitators to start shitflinging so eventually that was shut down too and everyone was banned.

                Then I shit you not he opened a "meet the mods" chat where you were supposed to thank and worship all the mods.

                He also killed the guys game because he flooded the entire server with warhammer and reddittards who had 0 ibnterest in gamedev. All the people into gamedev got banned,

                The guy turned full woke. Dropped his game which was basically complete and now reads warhammer related reddit stories while eternally stuck at 20 000 subscribers.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >purge everyone right of Karl marx

                This wasn't necessary as you guys saw one pink strand of hair and ran for the hills. If the crimson coiffure curdles your cream what creative cookery will you commit to in future?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                nope, I stayed for a while because I considered the guy a friend. Oh well, if he was turned so easily nothing of value was lost.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Tbqh I left my right leaning gaming group because they were a bunch of hillbilly morons with nary an original thought. One guy was insistent that Canadians have a 38 hour work week because of Mr Shickelgruber.

                >you dumb c**ts all deserve each other

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The Full troony stuff is very, veeeeeery weird, there is nothing natural to the whole stuff and the way it goes around like a mind virus is legit scary.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You know, there is something to be said for being polite and just setting boundaries. People asking to moderate a community without you knowing them is an obvious red flag

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                yeah its leninism, troon commies want to dictate troonyism by getting into mod positions

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So I guess when you see one you stop drop and roll

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    i hate trannies so much its unreal

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      bait.jpg

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Probably just butthurt from
        >poor American sloppa diet
        And
        >a game more grimdark than 40k has arisen by one if the architects of the best GW game (Mordheim)

        Paypiggies squeal in these uncertain times. The terrain is uneven beneath their veiny trotters

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          More like I'm pretty sure he's trying to fake a /misc/ raid, way to obvious.

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    chuds and trannies are just two sides to the same coin

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    we need a final solution to the troony problem

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Shotgun weddings to incels. Two birds, one stone

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    what about a WHFB for cheaptards? id even take some non wargaming universe set in a world with a similar aesthetic that is sort of low fantasy.

    closest i can think of is witcher. or dragon age maybe

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    this thread is proof trannies are mentally ill and shit up every community on this site

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >not what happened

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >thread is being raided by the same cuckshit spamming troony Black person freaks that have been posting the same shit nonstop all over the site for 10 years.
    Ffs you really cant have a single thread without these deranged discord goons

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Troon Crussade

  47. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Worst thread this side of the gates of hell

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Hell Ganker would probably be a blast. The Screwtape Shitposts.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I can imagine the
        >t. Papal Spy

  48. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    The entire discussion is astroturfed nonsense. 40k is having internal cultural problems but the environment isn't target rich enough so now they're branching out into things that can theoretically be related to it (aesthetically if at all?) to try and drag more people into it.

    But this is entirely pointless and it accomplishes nothing. Nothing in the 40k mess is going to magically vindicate anyone's long-held biases or grudges, it's just more destruction for its own sake, which will result in a general poisonous of everything.

    There is no way, no sense, no interpretation of events in which any of this ends well, or beautifully, or coherently or at all. It is insane and pointless. A spontaneous outcry of pain from a dying age. I guess it's fitting that in reaching for ways to describe this process they reach for things that were meant to bring people joy and turn them into weapons but it's fitting in a profoundly sick and insane way.

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