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Not even Hakita can make a water level that isn't shit, this is what he puts out after Greed?
6-1 and 6-2 made me cum now to go get the p ranks
Boring garbage hope hakita kills himself after this embarrassment
Act 3 when
Actually pretty neat with the atmosphere and on the ship. I feel the boss of Wrath is kinda not as fun or chaotic as the other fights, but alas it's the classic big enemy, easy to Kill trope. Water stages aren't bad but you got to get used to the new mechanic and I'm not a fan of the rocket launcher. Feels less punchy than it should be. Lastly, love the inversion of the ship. Level design defacto good. Wonder what the last one will have but feels like a set up for gay ass gabriel, but i got work to do.
Oh forgot to add, rocket launcher ZAWARUDO'ing is fun but they gotta buff them rockets.
Whiplash was butchered so hard holy shit.
Rocket Launcher feels weak as frick. I think it needs more explosion radius or a bigger hitbox. Loved it though.
Gabriel is still a bit of a pushover, but fun nonetheless.
Explosions from it dont deal damage, you need to hit someone first to make a damaging explosion. If you hit someone midair the explosion is stronger
Am I moronic or did the Soldiers not used to resist explosions? I thought it was some fricked up shit with 5-1 being underwater at first.
Yup on violent they're totally immune to explosions.
Yup.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1229490?emclan=103582791466223081&emgid=3394044824590236378
>Soldiers will now block explosions if not in the air (except red explosions, interruptions and ones caused by a rocket hitting the environment). Blocking reduces damage by 75% on Standard and 100% on Violent.
Interesting, I couldn't find the actual patch notes so thanks. I would understand the change a lot more if they weren't almost exclusively used over the Lesser Husks in this update, kinda annoying.
I imagine its a way to make them more distinct than lesser husks.
did you guys pay the ferrymans toll?
No, I'm not smart enough for that. I didn't make a wish either.
Overall Act 2 was really solid, but I don't think it's better than act 1. Greed is definitely still the best layer of the act.
Wrath is a good layer, especially level 3, but I think level 2 was a little lacking, and was surprisingly short, almost the length of a prelude act. Ferryman fight was cool though
Leviathan is a way better boss than King Minos
Rocket Launcher is a solid weapon. I think its a little early to call for buffs on it since its definitely got a skill curve to it compared to other weapons
Wrath is a god tier layer on par with gluttony for sure
The biggest issue with Act-2 imo is that while there are a lot of cool things that happen, it also retreads a lot on stuff that happened in act 1 (v2, and gabe fights, middle layer is a fight vs a giant enemy).
The name of the act, imperfect hatred, makes sense since both v2 and Gabriel want revenge on v1 but are unable to achieve it hence imperfection.
Whiplash healing was absolutely neutered, once I realized what was happened I stopped using the Whiplash altogether. Hope it gets at least slightly tweaked to not be so punishing.
Overall happy with act-2 and am looking forward to the P-level.
underwater level being the first is meh
rocket launcher is underwhelming
bossfights are good but gabriel was a bit too easy i think?
ambience top notch
Yeah the fight wasn't too different from the first so it wasn't too difficult once you learn to always parry the explosive sword. Voice acting was top notch though. Kinda Sad you didn't get punished for juggling him after phase 1
>these whiplash changes
I thought I was just fricking up a lot, holy shit they ruined it.
I was trying to cope with the whiplash change of now buildup H damage depending if you got hit, but it took me the entirety of Wrath to realize how shit it was.
>can no longer confidently hook onto maurice charging his laser to parry with a punch or shotgun to the face
>can no longer recover from falling with pulling yourself to a heavy enemy like cerberus or maurice
>can no longer close distance properly with bosses or enemies
and a few I might've missed, still fricking hell Hakita, you just killed my way of playing the game before the Wrath update, guess its back to sliding and dashing and no longer being on the air with Whiplash, it was so much fun using Whiplash.
the whiplash change was unironically most of my deaths, since i got hyper used to this mobility tool that lets me get up close to heal
and now IT FRICKING KILLS ME
same
by the way, how the frick am i supposed to be doing those challenges, some of these seem so fricking weird
what do you mean "punch gabriel into the ceiling"?
and how am i supposed to not go into water I NTHE WATER LEVEL
I just stood under him during his stun and shot him with the nailgun and I got it
i mean i guess if that works, then thanks
now time to go frick around with noclip so i can find all secrets and map out a route to get them with p rank
those 30+ view vids of all secrets p rank won't make themselfs after all
petition to hook Hakita or PITR to a milking machine until either of them is willing to remove that stupid hard damage buildup on Whiplash.
I love the act update but I fricking hate the nerf on Whiplash, ruined one of the best movement tools on Ultrakill.
theyll stay on the machine until the room reeks OF PENNIES
there's a ton of small issues that even the ultra hardcore folks don't seem to like, so it's getting tweaks for sure. Doubt it's getting removed, though.
he said on discord he's not changing anything related to nerfs period, he even gets mad when people ask his response is always 'use something else"
what a fricking homosexual
yeah haha can someone pleeeeasee link a pirated copy of the update
>what a fricking homosexual
close, he's actually bi so even more insufferable
i love when devs don't fricking take crtiticism to heart even when they're overtuning shit
admitedly i just won't use fricking whiplash but frick man
at the very least tweak it a bit
most of the time when a developer acts like a c**t he always kills his game, I mean just look at what happened with. DD1 was basicly frick you we do what we want with out game, don't like it don't play
whiplash should just cost stamina or something, even if it cost all your stamina it would be worthwhile
man I'm going to miss the whiplash if it stays this way, but the old alt revolver got nerfed to shit and never un-nerfed so I don't have too high hopes
the rocket launcher provides more mobility at least
whiplash with the same stamina-halting mechanics of sliding sounds really good actually
to this day I will never understand why devs purposely ruin shit in their games, it's like they just can't help it
Holy shit, I died so many times on violent because of this. I was kinda rusty, but still, the game felt way more challenging than usual. Now I get it. What a bizarre and counterintuitive change, frick me.
>anon outs themself as a shitter
It doesn't do hard damage if you have the ULTRAKILL style rank (and maybe the SSShitstorm one as well). Unironically get good.
if i'm in ultrakill why would i even need to use it in the first place lmao, i'm already ahead and it doesn't push any advantage i don't already have.
>If you're in ultrakill rank you haven't been taking damage at all so its health regen utility is useless
>You won't get to ultrakill rank by just using the whiplash so it isn't good for building style
>If you get hit at ultrakill rank the hard damage bonus instantly goes away
The "bonus" is a big nothingburger.
>already at two acts
>still don't have the 4th arm or third weapon variation for anything not the railgun
There's only one more act, he's sort of running out of time
Rocket launcher is surprisingly pretty weak and it fricks up my weapon switching muscle memory
Two questions
1. Where's the secret level in Wrath
2. Is P-2 ready yet
Both questions have the same answer, they aren't in yet.
what the FRICK did hackita mean by this.
it boggles my mind he dares to put out a release date, rush the ost in the final day, and NOT EVEN RELEASE THE FRICKING SECRET LEVEL ON THE UPDATE
>boss arena has two hookshot points
>think the challenge will be to stay in the air for the whole fight
>it's not
talk about a missed opportunity
All Hakita has to do to fix the whiplash is either:
-Make the enemy it attaches to have greatly reduced bleeding so you can't use it as a get out of jail free card
-Make the hard dmg reduce for each style rank and not just S-Ultrakill
I mean I get it, its pretty cheap to just whiplash to a malicious face and get all your HP back, but I basically stopped using the whiplash it was so punishing.
Mindflayers are impossible to deal with now my god.
>dont touch water :*~~
>rocket launcher blows
style changes are great though i love it
Really? I love the rocket launcher
Basically use it like it's a TF2 Direct Hit and you get rewarded with a massive explosion
>morons saying the rocket launcher blows when they just suck
Learn to aim!
i just wish i could switch where it is on my weapon wheel
it fricks me up when i try to railcoin and just blast out a rocket
i swear if he doesn't at least lower how hard it can hard damage or put a cap on how much it can take at once then these levels will be a pain to have fun in
>give us a grappling hook right before an incredibly mobile water act
>but release the act with the grappling hook way before the fact that follows it
>nerf it into the ground inbetween acts
this is why early access is a fricking mistake
so what's better in terms of pure DPS: the alt revolver or the rocket launcher?
I think i have an idea on how the whiplash could be made way less shit while still retaining the hard damage thing it gives:
make it time based
make it so if im traveling to an enemy, or it too me, for more than 1 second it starts doing its thing
doesn't sound too bad in fact, atleast five seconds or three so you have enough time to maneuver or remove whiplash before hard damage drain begins. Much better than whatever the frick Hakita was thinking.
>whatever the frick Hakita was thinking.
probably forgetting he added the screwdriver, which is way more free as far as healing goes
when i'm in desperate need of blood below s-rank i can still just dash up to an enemy and point-blank them with the piercer
>troony game
oh how Ganker has fallen
How so?
The only character that speaks is a robot that mentions nothing about gender
How do I get good at this game?
Just spam coin and enjoy the max rank lol.
Ok, so I was doing it right then.
I used to punch the shotgun bullets, but they patched that out.
No they didn't? Still works.
I may be moronic
That still works, maybe you had the red arm equipped.
Dogshit water level at the beginning. The moving sprite of water is dumbest fricking thing I've ever seen and is disorentating.
I have no clue how can you keep on adding useless shit such as Sandbox and waste programmer's hours instead of polishing the game.
For those wondering how to get rid of the water in 5-1:
In the starting area there are 3 valves you'll need to shoot (picrel are the locations). After that proceed with the level as usual. It’s pretty fricking tedious honestly, but I’m yet to play the level normally without the water. From the looks of it, it probably won’t affect anything other than the first arena that much probably.
thanks anon,
frick me im glad im not going crazy, I legitaiently thought I just got obscenely bad at the game after not playing for a month. what bullshit
The fire is gone
HE SAID IT
HE SAID THE THING
he also said the other funny things
also
how the frick do i do the challenge in 5-4
i tried rocket riding but it's too slow
does hakita want me to unironically use some speedrunner tech bullshit?
If you wall jump while slamming you store the momentum and can go up super fast if you jump when you land. I just did that in the elevator and used the jump outside of it
oh
i didnt think about the slam storagge
i thought since i just got a rocket launcher, and it says in the info "you can ride it without downsides underwater" that i would have to, y'know
do exactly that
yeah if you just drive straight up you can
>you dont have to go to the water current
>you can literally just go up
...well frick
>Go to sandbox to test new shit
>Spawner arm doesn't work once you get the launcher because it overrides slot 5
HAKITAAAAAAAAA
you do know you can hit 5 again to bring up the spawner arm right?
just untick the rocket launcher
if I don't kill god in act 3 I'm gonna be disappointed
man, i waited months just for a few hours of game.
is anybody else disappointed or is it just vidya fatigue setting in?
>dusk episode 2 was dissapointing
>ultrakill act II was dissapointing
Why is it always the second one?
because they rush it out without proper testing or think they know whats best for the game and it ends up being the worst ideas they have. same happens to tv shows almost every one of them get worse by season 2-3 onward
I like the update except of course that HP restriction thing. BUT i would have preferred Gloomwood rather than this 1 hour update.
did anyone find the secret level already?
i dont want to know what it is, just where to search
i can say what the secret enounter in 6-2 is for that info
its in 5-1
arigathanks
the secret enouncter in 6-2 is a fight with two insurrectionists, you need to grab the red skull before falling down
and they seem to work the same as that one secret fight with two SM's
What if Gabe's sword becomes the Golden Arm Upgrade?
you would think hackita would do that right, but NOOOOOOO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
rockets bad
tentacle rape way less cool than corpse king
grapple is borderline unusable on controller so I don't care either way
even gabriel(forma del sword art online) seemed way easier than the original fight
wrath was still alright aesthetically and the ferryman was a cool setpiece fight, but other than that everything just seemed way less impressive than the last act
Doesn't help that the prologue and act 1 were handing out cool new toys every 10 minutes and now the idea well's run dry
thanks for the heads up anon. not gonna touch it until act 3 shows up. dont why hakita needs to do this early access shit but whatever floats his boat i guess.
I didn't expect to have to fight the ferryman really, it was a cool fight, feels like hakita went "we don't have enough minos-like fights, lets add some more". also hampter
Picked it up and no other FPS feels this good. Does the level design open up more?
>whiplash inflicts hard damage now, even when pulling towards heavy enemies
>a tool designed to get you into close quarters, the entire gimmick of the game itself and a core mechanic, is now gimped to punish using it in such a manner
>hard damage takes so long to start dissipating and takes equally as long to dissipate that using whiplash to pull yourself into the fight is an immediate and prolonged kneecap on your health, thereby completely nullifying one of two reasons to pull yourself into the fight
>all of this just so people don't hook random strays for easy heals
HAKITA YOU FRICKING TOOL
If you're going through Prelude/Limbo right now then yeah, it gets more open.
If you want an easy P rank on 5-4, just shoot the Leviathan in the mouth with the rocket launcher while it's doing its projective vomit attack.
I FRICKING HATE MINDFLAYERS.
THEY WHERE ALREADY THE MOST CANCER ENEMY IN THE GAME AND THEN THEY GO AND NERF WHIPLASH.
HALF THEIR FRICKING HEALTH ALREADY. WHY THE FRICK ARE THEY THE TANKIEST FRICKING ENEMY IS THE GAME IF THEYRE SO MOBILE.
skill issue
you can also just shotgun parry the c**ts to death like this, there's a big delay when they teleport so sometimes they just fly about and are easy to hit, you can parry shotty them to death or hitscan revolver them or even just use the railgun screw so they can't tp, whiplash nerf to deal with them is hard but that doesn't mean you can't kill them.
Can't you just instakill them with an explosion when they create the projectiles too?
yeah genuinely they need to be nerfed if youre going to nerf the player, they are already either remove the insane fricking homing on the orbs or nerf the hp
>The Knuckleblaster's AoE doesn't break these things
It's already not good for anything, what's one more on the pile?
Knuckle is so useless, it should really do more, like boost you midair or something. Literally no reason to use it over the standard arm.
While situational, Knuckleblaster explosions deflect projectiles, meaning you can pull off Mindflayer Instakills with it (among other things).
Niche, but not entirely useless.
You will never guess what can also deflect projectiles
You would be wrong if Whiplash wasn't just nerfed. It paired great with that. Close in on an enemy then use shotgun and knuckle arm for major damage and heal.
I use it for blasting away homing mindflayer projectiles in the occasion I don't get an instakill through overpumping. Trying to parry often gets you hit by one of them still.
also even after the whiplash nerf, whip + shotgun + knuckle + slam is just a perfect malface instakill.
is there a pirated upload yet?
Uploading it now. Will post a mega link when it's up.
hey u got that link yet pal
sent :^)
am i dumb or something or can i just not see it
i'm glad swordsmachine and hideous mass are likely going to be regular spawns now for the rest of the campaign. hopefully insurrectionists are too outside 6-1
>Act 2 Gabriel is an inverse of Act 1 Gabriel and starts off enraged but becomes normal after he realizes he's enjoying himself
Okay kinda kino. Can't believe he wrote the track in 4 hours.
have a nice day hakita
Anyone else feel like the game burned too bright in act 1?
>Act II live NOW.
Really? It just came out? I swear, this game has been in early access for like 4-5 years now.
How many acts will this game have and when is the estimated completion date? I want to play this game but I don't want to play an early access version.
>I want to play this game but I don't want to play an early access version.
The price is going up very soon, I'd honestly recommend getting the game now if you plan on playing it.
there is act 3 left to make
if you want to play the game later down the line for sure, i'd say, buy it now, the price has increased now, and will probably increase again for act 3/full release
Wow I sure love Doom Eternal!
Wait, this entire game is really predictable. No wonder why we didn't get a sword from Gabriel.
>1-4: get red arm from V2, get the slab revolver
>4-4: get green arm from V2, get the saw launcher
>3-1 has a hidden door
>6-1 has a large ass door right when you enter the pillar room, albeit it's really dark
>3-2 is Gabriel
>6-2 is Gabriel
So what's next? Does V2 come back as a Swordsmachine-esque hunk of spare parts and give you a yellow arm when you die?
No I think V2 is actually dead, so get ready for V3
Hopefully act-3 will be all new stuff.
Yeah, I'm guessing other than what's probably a final Gabriel fight we're getting new things.
Another Gabriel fight would be one too many. I would like it way better if at the end of layer 7 Gabriel is near death and gives you his swords for some plot reason.
>Gabriel ends up helping you out at the final boss
>Dies and gives you the yellow arm
>Episode name is godfist suicide
>godfist
GOD FIST
>YOU'RE NOT ALEXANDER
The Jakito easter egg actually crashing the game was neat, I guess
I'm weary of spoilers and only wanna play the final release, final act when?
probably a year at least
Sick.
like 2 years from now
How do you reach surface in 10 seconds
slam storage right out of the elevator or ride the rocket straight up
ride your rocket or storage jump
Core eject into malicious and have it blast you up.
Just finished it
Greed - Wrath - Heresy are overall much better than Limbo - Lust - Glutonny, 4-2 / 4-3 / 5-1 / 5-3 / 6-1 are among the best levels in the entire game
Bosses felt weirdly disappointing this time around however, it starts off great with the V2 rematch but Leviathan is a snooze and Gabriel rematch feels oddly underwhelming, I almost expected a phase 2
Whiplash nerf is a bit excessive due to how slow hard damage disappears but I think overall was a good decision, makes movement and healing a much more involved process
That one room in Wake of Poseidon with the virtue + mindflayer + incinerator guys can suck my dick
Overall good fun
Can't wait for P-2
Almost everyone would agree the whiplash getting nerfed is a good thing, just the way it was done was terrible.
every boss after Minos Prime is gonna feel weak but the leviathan was just a easier giant corpse of king minos, actually first tried, no damage, Perfect'd that stage. it was weird
Funny it was the only boss in act-2 that gave me the most semblance of trouble since it was a new fight. New Gabriel unironically took me the least amount of time.
My biggest problem with act-2 was all the cool moments made me go "Hey its just like x from act 1". Heresy for example was an awesome level but Gluttony already did something similar and to greater effect imo. Ship of Fools is probably the best level in the game right now though.
I'm glad that Gabriel saw the light and became a Chaos chad
post em
WHAT'S THE P RANK BOSS ANON PLEASE TELL USSSS
the prime boss is not in the game
>he doesn't know
Haikita has yet to add it
it's so fricking obvious it's gonna be Sisyphus
the question is what mythological figure will be turned into a king for act 3
>what mythological figure will be turned into a king for act 3
someone BIG
Divine Comedy Dante and Vergil double boss fight ala Ornstein and Smough.
Hopefully act 3 prime boss is the father.
sissyphus is dead anon
So was Minos, killed by Gabriel in a single hit.
Gluttony and the Minos prime bossfight take place within Minos giant husk body. meanwhile, sisyspus's body is chained up in the pyramid in Greed in the room where you get the buzzsaw. I don't think he'll be the prime boss of Heresy when his body is all the way up in greed unless his soul is just down there for lore reasons.
Thing is that no other character in Act II is set up in such a manner. Sisyphus is the only one that is mentioned off-handedly in a book with no other conclusion other than what is presumably his dead body in the buzzsaw room.
Gabriel is mentioned in both Act I and Act II and is busy preparing for Act III after coup d'etating Heaven.
The Ferrymen and the Innies are husks but they're also one of many other Ferrymen/Insurrectionists.
The Leviathan is a soulless demon.
Wouldn't be a stretch that for whatever reason Gabe decided to remove his soul from his body and imprison it in Heresy.
Obviously 7-1 is going to be V3, a green palette swap of V2 with the yellow arm. Then the prime boss will be V4, the yellow palette swap of V4 who fights you with only one arm.
So was Minos, yet you get to fight against his Super Saiyajin soul in P1
Alright, time to drop my autistic headcanon then.
Both Minos and Sisyphus were mythological kings of Greek cities (Minos of Crete and Sisyphus of Corinth). Inclusion of Sisyphus points to the fact that the prime bosses don't necessarily correlate to the mythological figures depicted as guardians in Dante's Inferno (otherwise it would be Plutus rather than Sisyphus, although this is one of the few times where Ultrakill accidentally follows Christian theology; why would a mythological pagan god be in a Christian interpretation of the underworld)
If Hakita decides to follow both the kings of Greek cities theme and Dante's Inferno, then it would most likely be Theseus of Athens.
If Hakita decides to ditch the kings of Greek cities theme for the climactic superboss of the final act, then there's all sorts of options.
final boss is probably Satan or whoever is turning husks into robots. Gabriel seems pretty stoked after killing the whole council, maybe he'll drop in and watch the fight before he dies. Also V2 is fricking dead. Not coming back. 7-1 boss is gonna be something else.
>I called him what it was, A stupid worthless machine
>not INSIGNIFICANT FRICK
>Also V2 is fricking dead. Not coming back.
Swordsmachine "died" too back in 0-4.
Swordsmachine's enemies entry mentions the fact that its appearance spawned many copycats.
V2.2's entry states that it used parts from other machines to make its arm, just like Swordsmachine.
V2 got away the first time, the second time you actually see him get destroyed
I'm hinting at a V2 Swordsmachine hybrid since the original Swordsmachine is yellow (yellow arm).
Liquid V2
>V2 is dead
>but the original Swordsmachine will use his corpse to rebuild himself
would be schweet
was the swordsmachine we saw in heresy the same one we saw in the intro or is it a common model
they're cosplayers
huh, how do we know the one we fought was the original?
I think that one has more health than the common ones
The virgin v2
>Jobs twice
>Runs like a b***h
>Dies
>Forgotten and unloved
The chad swordmachine
-Stands its ground in the same Layer, not about to let some punk ass nobody take his shotgun
-Inspired hundreds of copycats to chase after v1 and exact vengeance
>what mythological figure will be turned into a king for act 3
God.
>P rank boss
God damnit do I have to start trying to P rank everything? I didnt know there was secret shit behind it.
yes. both acts have p-rank doors that lead to secret bosses
I don't think you'd be able to come up with a scenario where the whiplash would be absolutely necessary but 5-1's left chamber does exactly that but also punishes you for just using it.
You don't get hard damage when grappling to the orbs
I cannot viably parry maurice if I'm not right in front of it, anon.
I will admit the whiplash nerf has made me play "smarter" and use the whiplash more strategically which is pretty satisfying to do. I do think there's better ways to nerf it though and hope Hakita doesn't outright revert the nerf if he addresses it.
>Vee is upset that REEEEEEing is less effective
Art.
Pottery even.
Hashita, nobody likes this whiplash nerf and the fact that you're moronic enough to put robots that attack with FIRE in a water level is proof that you're in the wrong.
twitter and reddit don't seem to mind
>Twitter
It was just Hakita's birthday and his fanart group is just hyping him up.
I know you're in this thread Hakita, the music for 6-3 is weak and you know it.
>P Rank
6-1, 5-3
>S rank
5-1, 6-2
>C rank
5-4
>frick you
5-2
Holy frick I'm getting smoked by Gabriel, I'm so rusty at this game
torrent when
I dunno fellas, I'm not feeling Ultrakill anymore. It's lost something.
Black person at worst its just pre greed ultrakill.
ETA on when the whiplash gets unnerfed?
Idk I feel like Hakita's the type of person to stand his ground on the nerf.
the whiplash nerf was arguably necessary because it made healing just too easy, but you'd think a more adequate nerf would be to reduce the healing you get from the enemy you grapple to instead of making the thing borderline unusable
I agree i just mean I can imagine him getting really defensive and telling everyone complaining to "git gud".
I miss the whiplash>knuckleblaster combo a lot. It made drones into missiles rather than coin soaking fodder. More than that I miss being able to dunk on mindflayers. Those neon b***hes are impossible to corner and I REFUSE to learn that instakill timing.
I hope Hakita is happy, the nerf made me actually start using the screw again so these frickers aren't teleporting around the map.
Grappling to Mindflayers and having a mid air battle was one of the most fun things ever.
No you see if you play perfectly and get Ultrakill rank it removes the hard damage. Just don't think about how taking any damage instantly removes that benefit. It's balanced. 🙂
How come you can't just whiplash to wherever you want? Did Hakita fall for some twitterhomosexualry and forgot to add fun to the game?
>5-2 has the best atmosphere of wrath
>Great build up and ambient music
>Tons of secrets
>But is the most barebones and shortest level of wrath
Why does this game feel so dishonest? It desperately wants to be the cool hip thing but it's designed so poorly and the dev is moronic.
true, I think it insists upon itself
layer 5 was ok since a couple rooms took me like 10 tries to beat but layer 6 they didnt even try
especially with the final boss its 1% of the difficulty of the first gabriel fight
>6-1 ost
Opening that first door and just hear that guitar noise was pretty cool. Didn't expect that
hackita fricked up ferryman's description
The build up, voice lines, and music for Gabriel rematch were all top notch, but the fight felt too easy.
>Very squishy make him tankier
>Basically has the same attacks as the first fight aside from the homing sword bomb
>Speaking of the homing sword, its pretty nasty to get his by but also piss easy to parry, and he does it so often its free damage
>Still able to cut half his health after phase 1
I'm mostly disappointed you don't get punished for trying to exploit him during the phase change, it would've been a cool way to show he's on to your tricks. Maybe give him some ways to counter your attakcs like v2 rematch did. Oh and it would've been really cool if he did the virtue's attack around the map during the second phase at least, making the player have to be aware of whats going on around them and not just focus on Gabriel.
He needs some kind of knockback attack. I stayed on the ground the whole fight and did the whole parry/dodge/dump weapon dance from the first fight. I'd have liked it if he threw V1 across the room or something. Minos was good at that with his uppercut move.
Also what did we think of the sentry? I like them.
Well designed enemy, one of the few enemies it feels like the rocket launcher was designed to be used against.
thanks doc
>Gabriel does the slam attack like in act 1
>This time though if you're too close it knocks you up or back giving him easy follow-up.
>This time though if you're too close it knocks you up
excuse me?
Gabriel's ass becomes so fat it knocks you into the air.
haha yeah haha that would be cool but also weird and funny
Very good enemy
I like how the support enemy start to actually come together very well now, the Virtues are considerably more annoying to deal with than in Greed
Sentries are great, even if I feel like they're half the reason why Whiplash got nerfed into the ground.
>the style multiplier decreases rapidly when you use the nailgun
>but not when you shotgun boost spam
>holding M1 is easier than timing a parry multiple times
as it should be
The final layer is treason where Satan canonically hangs out comping on Judas, so he's probably the final boss.
The final P-level will be a portal that takes you to heaven, where you fight the father.
>sentries see hell perfect because sniping
>most machines see it pixilated (retro) to save processing power
I like that
Any way to open the console and directly change the keybind for the rocket launcher?
It hurts me but the whiplash nerf was completely justified. It was just too easy to rocket towards a big enemy and shrug off all the damage you take by shotgun swapping it for heals
>it was fun! just dont use it if you think its too easy!
yeah how about you turn on major assists you fricking pansy
You're right and I don't think anybody would disagree. The way it was nerfed was bad though.
> trying to play this game after not having played it for several months
i am so out of practice holy shit
Same, I'm too busy with shit and other games to sit down and practice Ultrakill nowadays.
Felt myself getting better as I played Act 2, but man.
What a pansy.
bamp
>beat 5-2 without dying
>B rank on time
>cut down my time by a lot the second attempt
>A rank
how do I go faster bros? I fricking hate this stage
Kill things quickly. You can insta kill the Malicious Faces by tossing a coin through them and then shooting it with the electric rail cannon.
Abuse coins, abuse sawblades, especially inside the houses, overcharge sawblade can obliterate the cerberus in the room with the two idols.
Make sure you move as fast as possible too, slide hopping will do the trick for the most part.
The one thing I would ask for is if Knuckleduster was it's own dedicated key, swapping arms fricks with my flow. I'd rather have G be a dedicated Knuckleduster button with F and R dedicated to Feedbacker and Whiplash. When get get around to adding the fourth arm put it on C.
this. you have a punch button and a switch arms button. Either add a third arm or just make the switch arms button the "punch with other arm" button.
you take less hard damage with a higher Style score.
>yOu tAkE lEsS hArD dAMaGe WiTh a hiGheR sTyLe scORe
>everyone saying Gabe2 is super easy
>I can beat Gabe1 just by juggling coins but Gabe2 was super hard to P-Rank
I thought I was good at video games
IIRC it's in Hakita's pipeline. I'd love that too.
So place your bets
God
>killed himself for real after fricking up with Humanity too many times
>somehow is V1 clearing out Hell so Humanity isn't doomed to damnation
>insert theory here
>v1 clearing out hell so humanity isn't doomed to damnation
Actually
We've established the theme of V1 transcending its status as an object since the very beginning. What if... for clearing out all of hell, V1 gets sent to heaven? God may be dead, but perhaps god is some kind of sorting algorithm that just blindly sends souls to heaven or hell based on deed.
The being trapped at the bottom of layer 9 is God, not Satan.
>The being trapped at the bottom of layer 9 is God, not Satan.
>God and Satan are just 2 aspects of the same being
I think God fricked off after he realized that giving mankind the capability of free will and sentience was a mistake. Probably to some other plane of existence so that he can try again.
God is going to be the P3 boss. If he is dead like Gabriel said Im pretty sure that he would qualify to come back as a prime soul
posting in this thread because the other one is just 2 grown children crying at each other
you can just go up infinitely
You could do that before if you had just a single wall anyway. Slam storage + repeat.
slam storage had a hard cap to it. you could only jump so high no matter how far you fell from.
>say anything remotly negative about the game
>"skill issue" "git gud"
Every "skilled gamer" in every indie homosexual game says this. Hollow Knight, Cuphead, and now ULTRAKILL. Maybe they should find a real challenge, like getting a job.
Anyone got a download link yet?
So, is there a way to do the 5-4 challenge without slam storage?
why does he act like such an butthole
coping with being finnish
>Finnish
no wonder his depiction of hell is so good.
he told me to shut up once in a discord vc so i havent paid for his game
what did you do
talked kinda loud in a 50+ person vc when he was beginning to talk and then he told me to stfu in a thick finnish accent
>50+people VC
for what fricking purpose?
i think this was when P-1 came out and people were discussing how hard it was and then hakita joined and i was getting some last points down and he told me to shut up
>Gankertard with an anime profile pic stumbled onto the gameplay loop that everyone likes
It's going to his head for sure. Having your first game be the number-one rated thing on Steam can't be good for your ego, knowing how much other devs suffer and fail despite trying 10 times as hard as you do.
post predictions for the remaining layers
>Violence
>Fraud
>Treachery
I can't think of anything creative to build off of the original poem for the first two.
But Treachery better play it straight and be a lake of ice. Just because snow levels are always kino
>violence
who the frick knows
maybe a forest because it's the circle where all the people who committed suicide are turned into trees
this is incidentally also the layer where all the gays end up
it cant be a desert of burning sand because greed already did that
>fraud
zero clue
>treachery
5-2 except in a big fricking cave (the skybox is the cave) and the ocean is frozen. bunch of heads poking out and shit.
>Fraud
Hakita's bedroom.
>Violence
WW1 trenches or historical type battlefields like Hell in Painkiller
>Fraud
A fricking shopping mall or bank. stage hazards everywhere
>Treachery
Escher-tier geometry mindfrick level
>A fricking shopping mall or bank. stage hazards everywhere
Fact: V2 prime will be on either p2 or p3
That would be cool as shit but its definitely gonna be Sisyphus
You can't be fricking serious, Hakita.
What?
I dunno why but I feel like all the bosses arenas in this game are kinda boring. Like the Sea Serpent was kino as frick since I could run on top of it but all the other bosses are just
>Empty room
>Fight big guy
Would it kill Hakita to throw in some stage hazards or effects beyond a bottomless pit?
ech, I personally hate stage hazards, 5-2 and 6-2 are a pain in the ass because of it
>Greed is fantastic
>Heresy is great, 6-1 is phenomenal and 6-2 is still a cool climax even if its easy
>Wrath is by far the worst layer in the game
It really annoys me because it feels like 5-1 and 5-2 were designed for the old Whiplash but feel completely awful to play without it.
>it feels like 5-1 and 5-2 were designed for the old Whiplash but feel completely awful to play without it
wacky aint it. almost like he made the nerf after he made the levels and didnt adjust them
>feel completely awful to play without it
How so? I honestly barely noticed the nerf, maybe it's cause I never really used the whiplash too often but I didn't think any of the rooms in those levels were bad, even the ones where you were encourage to whiplash.
the room with the bottomless pit and the final room that continually opens up until you have snipers on both ends for 5-1, and the entire stage for 5-2. Course correcting when you inevitably slide off the pitifully small platforms would have been a lot easier and a lot more fun if you could save yourself by grappling onto enemies.
the hard damage shouldn't be a thing when using the grapple points
There are no grapple points in 5-2
enemies are the grapple points
What do you do with the hampter in 5-2?
You go up
>First impressions
Short and unfulfilling levels, whiplash nerf makes the game significantly unfun.
>Is the rocket launcher satisfying.
Not at all.
>having less fun after the Whiplash changes
>barely ever reach ULTRAKILL anymore after the style changes
>still get P-ranks on everything with ease
what am I
ever reach ULTRAKILL anymore after the style changes
ok good though i was the only one im still consistently hitting ss so i guess it balances out
5-1 5-2 and 5-3 are the worst levels in the entire fricking game, the grappling nerfs are counter intuitive to the games design and doesn't even achieve what the dev wanted to do
>falling faces can still kill protected enemies
lol
lmao even
People who complain about whiplash nerfs never get consistant ULTRAKILL style
Any tips on how to git gud against the bosses? I P-ranked all of them but it was mostly luck and tons of restarts.
Railcoin setups melt bosses. I'd recommend learning how to coinadd, you can almost deplete half of gabriel's total hp if you can hit it properly and skip straight to phase 2
Other than that learn boss attacks and their respective parry/dodge timings
Noted, ty
No problem.
>uh just git gud
Here's my top run on Minos Prime. Yes, I think the Whiplash nerf sucks. P.S: You will never be a woman.
I bet 90% of the people defending the change haven't even gotten to the first P-door, git gud homosexuals are never actually good.
ur a lame-o
based fellow perfect chad
I have nothing to add I just wanted to show off
>tfw the first time I p-ranked it I did it with just 1.5s left on the clock
this raises a good point what happens if someone is good at the game and says something sucks do people still say get good?
the dudes a massive homosexual
>some people only use Whiplash
>so no one gets to use Whiplash
why design it in the first place then you fricking homosexual
becuz grappling hook trend anon
this is what happens when you introduce a powerful tool before designing any levels for it
>introduce whiplash at end of Greed so it can only be used on levels that weren't designed for it
>it makes them trivially easy and players don't even need to use movement keys anymore
>all while this is happening, design Wrath levels around it
>turns out it was fricking OP the entire time
>hastily nerf it after realizing your mistake, making the players upset and gimping the levels you'd been working on for the past year
He fricked up. Greed and the rest of Act 2 should have been a single update but people were clamoring for more.
The rocket launcher alt fire will be this way too. It's a permanent jetpack that invalidates all open level design and platforming. Maybe he has something in mind for the last act, but it seems like it would break anything that aren't interior levels. The alt fire is cool but it should be on an unlockable variant late in act iii. The default alt fire should be something else.
To be fair, the Core Eject+Malicious Railcannon combo also trivializes most open spaces, the only difference is that now it's infinitely easier to pull off because the timefrozen rocket also synergizes with the Malicious Railcannon the same way as Core Eject does, but you don't have to deal with gravity, timing or positioning anymore.
So it's actually worse than just being a jetpack.
Dashing takes off a bar, dash-jumping takes off extra, sliding stops stamina regen entirely, ground slams do it too.
In fact, to add onto the spergout that I had in
, having the Whiplash tied to stamina would simultaneously curb its mobility and healing capabilities in one fell swoop. Not being able to dash after jumping straight into a horde of enemies can be pretty bad if you don't act quick, especially if you're doing the whiplash+shotgun strat against Malicious Faces.
reminds me of all the sandy levels
>there was never a reason to use other tools
maybe stop stacking 10 soldiers, 2 malicious faces, a virtue, 4 street cleaners and a fricking mind flayer in the room.
because without it people would complain it's too easy
yeah man me dodging mindflayer orbs like it's fricking tf2 dodgeball sure is fun with 90 other tracking projectiles happening at once. oh but yeah since i can one shot the mindflayer with this hyper specific playstyle its "balanced". the dude just wants people to play in such a specific fricking way.
why even have it all if it's literally that big of an issue. Also 5 being tied to the rocket with not swap fix (frick you). While 2 wasn't bad I feel he got too damn lazy, I mean only making you ost in a couple days before launch despite having a year+ and a shit load of dosh makes me want to slap him
>easy heals is not the problem with whiplash, its movement
why make it effect fricking health instead of the resource specifically used for fricking movement
>Indie dev strikes gold
>Game gets more and more attention
>Dev thinks they're a genius
>One (1) change is poorly received
>Instantly devolves into I'M RIGHT, ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG, SHUT UP, NO MORE OPINIONS
Many such cases
I know you're reading this too, you fricking c**t. Get over yourself.
>wow the whiplash made the earlier game too easy
>lets make it a useless piece of shit instead of making the later game challenging enough
>oh by the way lets also make most of the levels really big areas to further warrant using it
Fricking homosexual.
>design two entire layers with Whiplash in mind
>see some gay moron use it too much in a livestream
>nerf it into the ground without changing the level design
>why are people upset????
>the issue is movement, not easy healing
>therefore i made it gimp its healing capability without gimping its movement viability
>despite there being an equivalent resource that's permanently attached to the player, related to similar movement abilities such as dashing and sliding
>it's called STAMINA AND IT'S RIGHT FRICKING THERE UNDER THE HEALTH BAR YOU FRICKING MONG
this is why game dev discords were a mistake, imagine being able to go on an ego trip like this at any time especially when you're probably already stressed out and sleep deprived from releasing an update. Makes me lose a lot of respect for the guy and I'm sure it feels like shit for him too, would be better for everyone without it.
I dunno, he sounds pretty reasonable here. As I said before in this thread, I'm sure the values will be tweaked. He nerfed whiplash before(made it have no aim assist at all), got feedback and tweaked it.
And considering he doesn't have a team to chew and filter feedback to him, the fact that the game is insanely popular and as such he gets a shitload of complaints thrown at him, I feel his tone is justified. He does strike me as overly rude sometimes, but that's most likely because he just has to read through too much shit so he just kills some conversations early.
"hard" slamming does, which is annoying since regular slamming doesn't and I constantly do the former by accident
Frick off, Hakita
I'm only 15% Hakita by preferences
I find it interesting that in the big dev stream he did a while ago he specifically mentioned not really caring that the whiplash was OP. I wonder what changed his mind.
probably watched some e-celeb fumbling around with it and got assmad.
You have autism, Hakita, that's okay, but you are tone deaf. Take it in stride and get some sleep.
tweak it you frick curb your ego and focus on making the game fun
either tie a resource to whiplash or don't make the levels so wide open and focus on the smaller arenas
literally just tie it to stamina, THE RESOURCE BAR IS THERE FOR A FRICKING REASON IT ALREADY LIMITS OUR MOVEMENT OPTIONS ADDING ANOTHER OPTION TO IT ON A ALREADY BIG LIST OF OPTIONS ISNT A BAD A IDEA.
He's right that the whiplash is a problem but tying it to the style meter (especially after the style nerfs) is dumb
what will it take to make this gay realize that the problem isn't that he tried to nerf it, its that he tried to nerf a movement tool by making it alter your health in a game where you specifically have a resource bar for movement options.
he's literally correct
wiplash made the game way too easy. almost everything can be beaten by tripple pump + wiplash + red punch, now it doesn't just also give you full health
no one fricking disagrees with this you fricking homosexual it's the way it was nerfed thats just astronomically moronic.
>the most passive aggressive thing he says is "some people were starting to get rude"
This is completely level headed even if the way he nerfed it is moronic. I feel like you guys don't know what a dev his head up his own ass actually sounds like if you're getting anal about him making a definitive statement on the game changes.
That said, people should suggest the stamina changes if they care so much about what he's saying. it definitely sounds like a better direction for the hook.
I think the worst part is that it doesn't make sense thematically. Like why does grapple hooking hurt you? Where's the logic beyond that beyond meta game balancing?
the dude is literally denouncing every suggestion possible, his head is definitely up his own ass
>That said, people should suggest the stamina changes
someone already did and he said that it was a terrible idea
Well, I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Hakita is close to going on the hack list, but so far the game is still fun. On the bright side is sounds like his discord isn't a bunch of dicksuckers, so there's at least that working in the game's favor.
It's the general New Blood discord, not his own one I'm pretty sure so it's not entirely an echo chamber there.
it's literally the ultrakill discord those messages are from
Oh I didn't know it had its own discord server
>both the new blood discord server AND the ultrakill discord server are mad about the whiplash nerf
wew
>On the bright side is sounds like his discord isn't a bunch of dicksuckers
Correct, they are in fact dickchoppers
>people should suggest the stamina changes
They did.
Someone also suggested adding a cooldown.
All of those ideas were shot down immediately.
I just wish that when P-2 is released it won't have a fricking spinal starcase bullshit. Having to do that all over again really fricked with me when I P ranked Soul Survivor
hey guys you know what'd be an epic way to own hakita just leak a pirated copy hahaha
When you noclip into the secret area entrance in 5-1 which hasn't been added yet and is blocked off by an 'under construction' sign, you see this.
A Virtue was attacking me when I took this screenshot.
The dev really likes showing off his """""o"""""c in this update
He seems to be getting an ego now.
>have an oc
>Now you have an ego
makes sense.....
Go back to Discord.
i literally never used whiplash except to grapple to stuff and i frankly can't really imagine people using it as a crutch in the first place
it's so easy to regen health with any other method
>whiplash is too dominant
>adds rocket mobility which will absolutely dominate all movement and speedrunning in the game now
Don't worry, anon, I'm sure he'll make rocket jumping deal 99 damage to you if it hits you, for balance reasons
that will be nerfed too I bet
Hakita you homosexual, I know you're on here. I remember you posting the ultrakill demo on Ganker.
Stop sucking yourself off and listen to feedback, it's not a sign of weakness to say "Oh, maybe I did something wrong there"
I think Hakita needs to fix some of the tracks. You got lazy with the mixing of instruments and just repeated formula from before. Update it until you're proud of it.
hey can someone drop a pirated update
Hakita may be full of himself but the OST for act 2 was really frickin good, especially 6-1
for how fast he made it dudes got some talent
This makes me sad I just wanted a cool update and all im seeing is negativity here and nothing but praise on the discord but by people who didn't play it. Why can't we have nice things anymore why does these people always have to have such egos. he's getting too pushy and blatanly rude towards people I hope people keep making fan stuff at least
The negativity here isn't baseless, but it is overplayed for comedy, and because that's just how 4chins is.
The Discord sucking-up is a separate issue entirely, because names are attached to everything you do, it's really easy for people to gang up on someone for having an opinion outside the majority, especially when it's "I don't like the thing everyone is saying they love" so people don't want to share their criticisms there. I'm not on that discord server because I'm not a fricking loser, but chances are being """overly""" critical will also get you kicked out too.
>nothing but praise on the discord
almost everyone is complaining on there what are you talking about.
those people quickly get called out for lacking skill, it's even a meme on there to spam skill issue when people complain
while I don't come here often I fell like it's more neutral to talk about the games positives and negatives here compared to elsewhere, I seen people really like this but still say what they didn't like. I tried reddit but making topics there is a pain and the subs pretty dead. I'll admit I mostly like how the fans make stuff, the funny pictures like
is what I appreciate but seeing the dev go off the rails and be a douch is going to back fire eventually. Im just waiting for the day when it fully comes out for him to just scream frick all of you
>the dev go off the rails and be a douch is going to back fire eventually.
He's in for a nasty surprise then, because that shit comes hard and fast with no warning.
hey man if you could link me a copy for free i would have nothing but happy words trust me
i think ultrakill should be free for 10 mintues
whiplash makes the game too easy, stages should just be giant void pits with how mobile you are with it
Whiplash using stamina would have been a better nerf tbh.
Having it tied to health is moronic
does anything else use stamina other than dodging?
I don't think so
long jumping using more stamina than just dashing
dash-jumping
slam-jumps
I really need to learn how to pick better early access games, this shit keeps happening to me.
least these get made, one of the games I paid for was abandoned then the dude just went and made another game without saying so. Im still pissed
>whiplash is... le overpowered!
>but raincoin adding, projectile boosting, and sawblade traps aren't
You gotta be trolling right? Whiplash you can use in every single combat encounter. Everything else you listed either has a cooldown or won't be effective in every single combat encounter.
>Whiplash you can use in every single combat encounter
Except you can't, thanks to the Idol, and you'd know that if you played the game you fricking troony.
I forgot about that, but honestly that reinforces how OP the whiplash really is. Idols won't be in a majority of combat encounters, and even then it only affects a single enemy per idol, allowing you to whiplash a different enemy. The whiplash nerf is honestly not that bad, just don't be 1 hp hooking onto enemies who are far away.
>Everything else you listed either has a cooldown or won't be effective in every single combat encounter.
Behold the most overpowered mechanic of them all: using your fricking brain
i wonder if there was a way to limit the amount you do without directly affecting the players survival.
seriously tho why not tie it to stamina, locking you out of movement options in exchange for hp seems like a way smarter move.
anyone gort a pirated copy
whiplash should auto-turn enemies to sand
there game fixed
killing things that were recently whiplashed makes them explode like stalkers
hakita just said tying it to stamina would be a terrible idea
and tying it to fricking health wasn't?
he said it would limit peoples options, despite stamina already doing that lmao "it would force people to pick one or the other"
>a resource bar tied to movement options that inherently limits the amount of bullshit you can pull with the aformentioned movement options limits the amount of bullshit you can pull with a movement option, but that's bad because it also limits the amount of bullshit you can pull with a different movement option, but none of this matters because unlike hard damage, stamina actually regenerates in the player's life time.
>bar designed to limit your options
>adding an option to that bar will limit your options
dude just needs to go to sleep
fricking this, he's probably sleep deprived since he cranked the final stuff out in literally 2 days before launch
After having over a year since first showing off Wrath..... Dude just spent 2-3 months playing Elden Ring or something.
>Dude just spent 2-3 months playing Elden Ring or something.
i won't be surprised if dev time is super fricked now due to how he's acting
calling the full game won't drop until around this time 2025
>part 3 will still come out before silksong
*sigh*
>one month for patches, soundtrack remixing and rebalancing
>4 months for secret level and P-level
>6 months for Layer 7
>18 months for a complete Act 3
It's possible. I'll wait as long as it takes though. Maybe hire some help for your next product.
>"it would force people to pick one or the other"
I get that he wants these tools to freely flow into one another, but I don't think he realizes how fricking powerful the grapple hook is on a very, VERY foundational level if it's given that ability. Being able to always choose the grapple hook is why people were always choosing it in the first place.
He CAN'T rebalance it in that way unless he goes back from the ground up. But making it so it's an option on PAR with everything else in moment to moment decision making is as good as it can fricking get.
Alternatively, give the grapple hook it's own resource. Literally just give it charges if he wants it to be an ever present combo option that you ALSO can't use whenever you want.
>grabbing an enemy is one stamina
>grabbing an orb/skull is free
Sounds good.
lol
>Alternatively, give the grapple hook it's own resource. Literally just give it charges if he wants it to be an ever present combo option that you ALSO can't use whenever you want.
nope
Any idea that doesn't come from his golden genius mind is obviously terrible by default, anon.
>6-2's platforming section is just a loop
>you can reach gabe in 5 seconds
god I feel dumb
I'm glad he's been toning down the boss intros for replays lately.
why would a grapple reduce your max health every time you use it
>make a mechanic that’s too overpowering
>desperately try to nerf it
>the cure ends up being worse than the disease, ultimately making the game a lesser experience than if the mechanic was just left alone
Many such cases
Just reduce the hard damage build up when grappling by like 30% and it's ok. Sure, maybe you won't get a full heal from a Schism anymore, but you can still get up to 80 HP, which is fine
Gets good after the ship turns upside down.
Destroying Idols feels clunky.
Gabe's fight was somehow easier than his first, dude's still a homosexual.
Can't wait for act 3 where V1 heads into heaven to finish the job and the jobber.
The boat level had good music I think.
How do you guys think this ego trip is going to end?
Untill Ultrakill is finished and his next project flops
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Is it even possible to get up there without ultraboosting?
yes consult my previous post
Neat
How much dev time was spent putting these stupid fricking easter eggs in the levels instead of making them good?
I remember Ultrashit's discord having a modding section. How hard is it to make mods for this game? If it's not that hard maybe I'll make a mod that turns off the hard damage for the whiplash.
people have made custom weapons and maps so I imagine it cant be that hard
Guess I'll look into it.
well shit if modders can do that then why dont they finish the game instead
anyone got a cracked copy
yeah
does it have this update
yeah
can i see it?
I FINALLY BEAT THAT SLIPPERY RED homosexual
My ears are ringing from all the explosions it took
now beat the gold butthole and muscle ghost
where are either of those
>he doesn't know
For gold guy, finish the 3rd act.
For ghost dude, get a P rank on every level in prelude and act 1
oh I thought they were secret bosses in the update. nvm
for the first one 3-2, for the second get a P rank in all act 1 levels. i suggest leaving the thread to avoid spoilers
always love a good adenine rush
Good work fren
Did you get the alternate revolver?
Not yet unfortunately
what's whiplash?
grapple arm
Oh. I've been having a blast spamming the shit out of it in cybergrind but apparently people have a problem with it?
safe to buy the game now?
What?
So, how long until we get Act III, another year? Maybe two?
1 and a half year of doing nothing with 3 months of actual development
Good fricking update
WHY DID I HAVE TO PLAY EVERYTHING IN IT IN ONE DAY
GODDAMMIT NOW I HAVE TO WAIT TWO MORE YEARS FOR ACT 3 FRICK
Why must the most fun games be so short?
>devs start supporting trannies
>games suddenly becomes average or bad due to some sudden changes
many such cases
>Whiplash can only pull to enemies with nail magnets in them. More magnets = more speed
>Whiplash can be held now hook into terrain, letting you redirect your slides or otherwise adjust your momentum briefly before it detaches
why is this dude against limiting the mechanic and so obsessed with punishing the player directly for using it.
what the hell does he even want?
it's like he has no idea how to balance it or if he doesn't even want to try different methods other than his own
He wants his cake and to eat it too.
>grappling hook has to always be useable so it doesn't feel weak
>grappling hook can't be better than your other movement options
>even though the former is the exact reason why the latter is an issue
It's obvious he wants to people to use the other movement mechanics (and rightfully so), but he doesn't want to nerf the actual design of the grappling hook (the range, how often you can use it, ect.) because he likes it so much.
So he's fricked until he's willing to swallow his pride and change something more directly related to the hook.
Again, I think the dumbest part is that it just doesn't really make sense for the grappling hook to use HP. Blood is fuel, I guess it uses fuel now? It's just not something you intuit from the arm's form or function.
This is doom eternal all over again, subhuman devs dictating the way ure supposed to play their game...
gimmie the qrd on doom eternal nerfs
There's nothing wrong with designing a game to facilitate certain playstyles and not others. Buffing everything is how we get moronic fricking shit like Guilty Gear Strive. Everyone hates nerfs, but everyone knows what it's like to figure out something cool in a game, and then realize it's totally blown out by something so much easier that you just feel like a fool for doing anything else. Intentionally gimping yourself isn't actually fun.
So there's nothing wrong with nerfing grapple to make a more sophisticated blend of movement options and decision making, this was just kinda moronic.
Especially since everyone playing the game are essentially play-testers, and going "this revision is permanent" in early access is kinda fricking dumb.
Hope youre enjoying your new leash.
The grappling hook has been out for months and months. So that's bullshit, it was fun and not for literally everything. I don't give a frick if someone people wanted to play it ultra safe in ultrakill by just hanging long range and grabbing health packs. Playing safer has always been option, but you go slower and that's your choice.
if he wanted to facilitate a certain playstyle why did he include the whiplash to begin with.
Sorry, I mean why did YOU include the the whiplash
>the nerf is moronic and should be done better
>WOW HACKITA WHY DID YOU ADD A GRAPPLE HOOK TO THE GAME?
I guess it's because I'm a hack developer with bad insight that can't balance new features that'll affect the whole game, in a game designed around replaying stages.
The levels only got more fun with the graple.
>play game
>do cool stuff
>new gear
>cooler stuff
>new gear
>COOLER STUFF
COOL STUFF. It's a good feeling to bring new tools to an old problem.
If you cared so much about level balance, you would just make a mode where the gear is locked to what you would normally have through progression instead and give it it's own achievements.
At no point did I only use grapple without also using the other movement options. Only using grapple would be boring which should be enough to dissuade people from using it and nothing else.
I think lightening the penalty for using the grapple would be good (I mainly used it as a panic button while fighting larger enemies and needed to heal and couldn't quite jump high enough to get to them)
But I do understand why he nerfed it. I hope he does something like "makes hard damage up to half of the players current HP". If not eh I can find a workaround.
You're right, the whiplash outdoes every other movement option. Why should I learn how to slidehop to get better timing on levels when I can just use the whi-
Oh wait, half of the levels in this update were designed specifically to enable the whiplash.
How about when I used the whiplash to do nothing but go up in the air, toss coins, and destroy everything in Cyber Gri-
Oh wait, you do that via slam storage, which has always been in the fricking game.
How about when I beat (insert boss here) just by getting up in its face with the whiplash and-
Oh wait, whiplashing bosses has hardly been necessary, and even without the whiplash I can still just toss two coins, railcoin, and coin add to instantly deplete half of their health bars because Hakita doesn't fricking care about that game breaking shit apparently and neither does anyone else.
>Oh wait, half of the levels in this update were designed specifically to enable the whiplash.
Yeah, and that makes the fact that he probably nerfed the whiplash last minute even more stupid.
>Oh wait, you do that via slam storage, which has always been in the fricking game.
Which eats up stamina, so it's once again, moronic that he nerfed whiplash with HP of all things, making it a significantly worse option.
>Oh wait, whiplashing bosses has hardly been necessary, and even without the whiplash I can still just toss two coins, railcoin, and coin add to instantly deplete half of their health bars because Hakita doesn't fricking care about that game breaking shit apparently and neither does anyone else.
Well yeah, he's a hypocrite that specifically wants the grapple hook to be something it's not, but is also unwilling to change it any other way or it's betraying his vision of what the grapple hook is.
Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha? All I was saying was that there's nothing wrong with trying to put all your tools on an equal baseline if one is out performing the other. You can argue that the grapple hook isn't disincentivizing other tools, but that wasn't really a point I was trying to make.
>If you cared so much about level balance, you would just make a mode where the gear is locked to what you would normally have through progression instead and give it it's own achievements.
I mean that's one way to do it. Balance wise, if he was really smart, he'd just save the autistic tweaking for the higher difficulty mode that you'll replay once you have everything unlocked. There's no point in nerfing something if it's affecting old levels because you'd have to redesign the previous levels or enemy encounters from the ground up.
The fact that this even feels like a nerf is a huge issue when his goal is to tweak it and make it feel more focused/creative like the other movement options. He seriously fricked up when everyone is saying it.
im sorry but what? the game is filled to the brim with projectiles, you are strafing a ton more. whiplashing was yes indeed pretty busted but this is just not how the game fricking plays.
I'd rather he didn't implement the grappling hook at all if he was going to make it this shit. I have to actively try not to press it instinctively now because it's a fricking death sentence in all these tiny ass rooms.
Just unequip it at the shop then and quit asking Hakita to "fix" the whiplash, the decision is final
You're a homosexual who can't take criticism, Hakita.
if hakita gets enough backlash over the whiplash changes he'll probably revert it, the same thing happened with the insurrectionist when greed launched
QRD on insurrectionist?
He's got too much pride to just do a 180. I'd be happy with a different type of nerf (hard-damage on the stamina bar, making it use stamina, giving it a cooldown, etc.) Hard-damage is just too punishing. It needs to be nerfed enough to make sliding/jumping the primary way of movement, but still have utility in most situations.
Honestly I'm surprised it took as long as 6-1 for Swordsmachines and Hideous Masses to become common(ish) enemies
I'm already used to destroying them from the cybergrind, it's weird to have like two of them in a room and it being presented as a major challenge.
This update really exposed all the cucklash shitters kek
by making the item useless to use? just put it on stamina hakita it's a movement ability.
>half the enemies in the game are immune to the rocket launcher
what is the point of this weapon
um you see it would be limiting your options if you could only use the rocket launcher.
It's great against Cerberus and Swordsmachine, but I fricking hate that Malicious Face of all enemies is immune
Aside from malicious faces, popping enemies into the air with a non-direct hit removes their explosion immunity. It's a great air-combo tool and movement tool, both in the same package.
With all this Whiplash sperging, might as well dd my coins to it. I'm fine with nerfing it, even in the way it was nerfed, but Hakita overnerfed it.
Most of the OP shit at least required some skill and risk to use well, like RailCoining. Whiplash was both easy to use and low risk if you weren't moronic.
Gotta say, the Lighthouse Reference was pretty based of Hakita. Good taste
anyone got a link to a cracked zip of the new update
>all these losers getting mad that they cant just press R to win
How did you all survive before Greed released? Just get high style and it won't do hard damage.
I P'd all of the levels and I say it sucks. It's a movement shooter, most of the mechanics are designed for you to have the freedom to move, so you shouldn't be punished for FRICKING MOVING.
You missed a secret there, anon. Better find it so that your argument holds water
Your parents miss their son, troony.
My wiener is gonna stay right where it is in your mom's mouth, just as the residents of your head will.
And they will never pay rent.
What an unfortunate way to get castrated.
I think he was joking anon
WHERE'S THE FRICKING TORRENT
sent
where do i find it i have zero clue man
up ur BUTT lmao!
aw man
any1 got a cracked zip of the new update
yeah
link pls
PM'd you the zip file
all this shit about the whiplash makes me really want the steam workshop update sooner so people can actually fix that fricking mess
FRICK
i should replace armboy with onion bubs and replace the clapping with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJKukx3pdWY&ab_channel=Waluigi420
im just saying if we could dash jump infinitely that would be the best movement option to to do bar none, if hakita is so worried about people spamming whiplash why not just tie it to stamina like every other movement option.
because he already decided and hes too up his own ass to admit he made a mistake
>why not just tie it to stamina like every other movement option.
He's already explained this anon, because he's right and you're wrong, so shut the frick up :*~~
Hate
Turns out the whiplash is actually bugged right now so the nerfs are worse than they should be. Every time you use it, it overrides the timer for regenerating hard damage, making it accumulated hard damage more than it's supposed to.
They'll probably fix this in the next patch
thats not a bug anon
That is the nerf
not him, but the nerf is
>using whiplash builds up hard damage
but the fact that touching something with the whiplash instantly resets the hard damage timer may not be intentional. You can build up hard damage, wait 4.9 seconds, and if you tap the whiplash again it will just reset the timer instead of letting hard damage recover 0.1s after the whiplash ends.
I hope the whiplash momentum nerf gets reverted too. It was nice to just briefly pull yourself towards an enemy, not necessarily reel yourself in completely.
>Bugged
That's how its supposed to work now anon
I liked the whiplash because the movement in this game can be quite floaty without it. It's pretty awkward to keep momentum going in combat.
The nerf doesn't bother me too much though, I guess I'm not getting to waves 40+ on CG anymore, but after wave 35 or so it's just such a fricking mess that it's just exhausting anyway.
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I may be saying this, but I actually liked using the whiplash to kamikaze charge the face or cerberus with a railgun shot. But, this was before the nerf so it just feels like a novelty now than haha I can fly faster than sliding. Truthfully, I feel like the nerf did not balance anything as a whole. It just feels like we're being kneecapped for using something the latter half of act 1 to act 2 built in our heads on how to use it. I'm not calling the dev shit but it feels like he missed a better way of handling things than just saying lol hard damage for the grapple spam. I'd honestly prefer doom eternals dash charge system for the grapple akin to how we get three charges per dash why not do something similar there.
the unlockable weapon skins should have special effects or something to make them stand out. the custom color option makes them kind of redundant
Why does Hakita have such a fricking boner for the reduced health mechanic anyway?
Because if nobody likes it but him then its a good mechanic
I like hard damage as a mechanic, it adds actual consequence to getting hit in a game where healing is as simple as killing an enemy up close.
That said, nothing the player does should ever inflict it.
I just think it's ridiculous that Gabriel is the only level where the whiplash wouldn't be used, and every single one of his attacks has hard damage attached to it.
Just make his blood less efficient or something, no need to stuff the mechanic in absolutely everywhere it can possibly go.
yeah if he wants to have an enemy that reduces max hp sure what the frick ever but why would you fricking punish the player so harshly for useing a item you put in the game.
>people unironically complaining about the whip
skill issue
Sup Hakita
wait so the whiplash nerf is why i saw the screen getting a little tint of red now?
Classic case of a dev getting massive ego trip, eventually he'll get burned sooner or later
I just want the workshop update already, and I get it that it's like only one dev working on it but come the frick on.
wheres the repack
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