>Valve already had meetings on SaveTF2 back in 2022, and found that the number of employee hours it would take to properly fix the problem were not...

>Valve already had meetings on SaveTF2 back in 2022, and found that the number of employee hours it would take to properly fix the problem were not worth spending.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >McBlack person

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >McBlack person

      Who gives a flying frick about TF2 anymore, let it go already

      /thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry goy its too expensive indie company prease understand

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >McBlack person

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who gives a flying frick about TF2 anymore, let it go already

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Skinny white dudes that never got pussy, skinny white previous dudes who are now semi not dudes who never got pussy, and low iq brown people.
      That's the entire remaining playerbase.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Race out of nowhere
        You are brown

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will let go of TF2 the moment a single worthwhile multiplayer game that has these features exists:
      >mechanics based instead of ability based
      >focus on movement rather than pure aim
      >intelligent visual design that isn't just VFX diarrhea
      >likeable characters that aren't sterile and safe
      >high team size to prevent compBlack personing, anything lower than 6v6 inevitably becomes league of legends
      >customization that goes deeper than skins and cosmetics
      >little to no moderation and matchmaking
      until then, TF2 is the only option

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tribes
        Time to start coping homosexual

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hi-rez already ruined tribes once, I'm not holding my breath

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And Valve has ruined TF2 twice with F2P and quick play. What's your point?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >TF2 is dead! You should play an ALIVE game!
          >like... Tribes!
          Lmao

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tribes
          BRAHS I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dude...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still more players than TF2

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The other TF2

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The other TF2
          >also a bot-infected mess run by a moronic company
          I think TF2 might just be a cursed acronym.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based instead of ability based
        on movement rather than pure aim
        visual design that isn't just VFX diarrhea
        >>high team size to prevent compBlack personing, anything lower than 6v6 inevitably becomes league of legends
        that goes deeper than skins and cosmetics
        to no moderation and matchmaking
        Space Marine MP

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically, Splatoon 3 except its 8 players max.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >n*ntendo
          No thanks, keep your baby games on baby console, pedo

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Splatoon 3 with dedicated servers and official modding support would unironically completely replace TF2 for me. That game is the only game with a low team size I've seen able to hit the same "not casual but not compgay either" audience the way TF2 does, but we don't live in the world where Nintendo is that based.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bless this artist

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WHAT IS THE POIIIIIIIIIIIINT
        OF DEDICATED SERVERS
        IF YOU Black folk IGNORE THEM AND CHOOSE TO ACT LIKE THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE RIGHT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're wasting energy getting mad anon.
          Server browsers lost to matchmaking a long, long time ago. Just accept that if you don't go out of your way to keep matchmaking cancer away from a game, it WILL be the primary way players find games to play.
          You can blame consoleBlack folk for accepting it back in the early 00s.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no matchmaking in TF2 right now. The whole point of SaveTF2 is that matchmaking is unplayable.

            >try to play on dedicated servers
            >they're all empty as frick because matchmaking sucks all the random pub players from the equation, leaving only servers with organized playtimes left

            Matchmaking cannot suck all the random pub players right now. If the ones you want to play on are dead, it's because the majority of the playerbase has chosen to whine these past few years instead of actually pile into community servers, like (You). You know who are the people that are supposed to be filling up those servers right now? YOU homie, get the frick to it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Matchmaking cannot suck all the random pub players right now.
              it literally can and did
              the convenience of tapping "queue for match" is simply too strong compared to browsing for a server for the majority of people, and that's what kills off community servers. by preventing people from even glancing at the server list, you prevent the constant influx of new people filling slots day in and day out that served as community servers' lifeblood for years

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it literally can
                IT CAN'T RIGHT NOW
                THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF SAVETF2
                THIS WHOLE THING IS WHINING TO SAVE MATCHMAKING

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this. it's a similar situation to just saying "vote with your wallet". yeah we could fix everything ourselves theoritically if we were a coordinated hivemind with no morons in it. but the truth of the world is any effort you yourself make will always be made irrelevant by those couple morons that ruin it.
                imagine an empty community server. it's completely vanilla and free and beautiful. but it has 0 players on. however, there are 100 players looking at it in the server browser at the same time and thinking "wow I wish this server had players. too bad" and none of them fricking join even though they could fill it instantly 4 times over. this is the problem matchmaking presents. old quickplay avoided this problem by automatically putting those players into those empty community servers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the convenience of tapping "queue for match" is simply too strong compared to browsing for a server for the majority of people
                Good. Filters casuals. When I join some stupid Uncle Dane soiboi server at least the people there actually know how to play the game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >try to play on dedicated servers
            >they're all empty as frick because matchmaking sucks all the random pub players from the equation, leaving only servers with organized playtimes left

            If the problem is match making is unplayable and the community doesn't play in community servers, why doesn't the community make a concerted effort to get people playing on community servers?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why doesn't the community make a concerted effort to get people playing on community servers?
              Because the whole issue with Matchmaking is that no matter how much you organize community server playtimes, they eventually fizzle out without random people hopping on and filling empty servers between organized playtimes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's literally never how its worked.
                You don't need to organize play times, you just hop on a fricking server and start fricking playing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that would require actual players which TF2 doesn't have

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's literally never how its worked.
                That's literally exactly how it works now, moron, that's the whole fricking problem. There used to be an expectation that people would hop onto empty/lowpop Community Servers and they would fill up as they rose up in playercount, either by people who favorited the servers or people browsing the server list. With random players entirely removed from the equation by the convenience of Matchmaking, that only leaves dedicated "members" of the community servers left, and the only way to get them to join onto an empty server these days is to organize playtimes.

                Matchmaking and Community servers are FUNDAMENTALLY incompatible.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see [...]

                >random players entirely removed from the equation by the convenience of Matchmaking
                There is no convenience of matchmaking right now. That's the whole POINT

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no convenience of matchmaking right now.
                There's PERCIEVED convenience, you fricking moron. You don't understand how these morons think. Matchmaking gays would genuinely rather suffer through queue time after queue time to get into match after match filled with aimbots than browse through the list of community servers, because to them that's somehow less work than just learning how to type in a few tags and sort by ping. I'm not defending this behavior, I'm just telling you that's how it is; the Community Server situation literally cannot be fixed so long as matchmaking is present.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There's PERCIEVED convenience, you fricking moron.
                Stopped reading there, lol
                It's been unplayable for years and this is known by everyone. Nobody would perceive that at this point, and if you wanna say "but they are just that moronic," then YOU are the one that is that moronic. You matchmaking babies are on a whole extra level of cope.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is literally how it works.
                If you - just like the entirety of the TF2 fanbase - don't like match making, THEN DON'T FRICKING USE IT.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >There is no convenience of matchmaking right now.
                There's PERCIEVED convenience, you fricking moron. You don't understand how these morons think. Matchmaking gays would genuinely rather suffer through queue time after queue time to get into match after match filled with aimbots than browse through the list of community servers, because to them that's somehow less work than just learning how to type in a few tags and sort by ping. I'm not defending this behavior, I'm just telling you that's how it is; the Community Server situation literally cannot be fixed so long as matchmaking is present.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So if the community can band together to b***h and moan at valve, making petitions, youtuber videos, graphics, review bombs... why is the community unable to make a concerted effort to inform people to stop using the match making?
                Everyone, EVERYONE, fricking knows that TF2 has a bot problem and how the game is """LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE""". Why not put that energy in to persuading TF2 players to just play on community servers?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                most remaining tf2 players are zoomers with dumb Black personhomosexual brains literally incapable of using a server browser

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                explain the millennials with dumb Black personbrains that embraced matchmaking for their consoleslop in early 2000s

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >console
                consolegays aren't human

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actually play video games? Using the dedicated server software everyone celebrates expressly for the purpose of keeping a game alive after a developer stops supporting it? What are you, INSANE?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >try to play on dedicated servers
          >they're all empty as frick because matchmaking sucks all the random pub players from the equation, leaving only servers with organized playtimes left

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          simply so I can dunk on consolegays

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ironically Xbox is the only way to play a soulful version of tf2 without bots and with community maps

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        isn't this artist a gay furgay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and somehow a handful of morons manage to be even worse

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A VOREgay non the less

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, it's an FtM troony, don't validate the pooner by calling her a man.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >gay furhomosexual that makes every comic about how much of a homosexual he is plays TF2
        lol not even surprised

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care that you're gay, homosexual

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For once this guy isn't a homosexual
        What else should I add to my bingo to finish it?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bot discussion turns into sniper nerf discussion

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Screaming about Tyler
            Patting yourself on the back for liking a dead game
            Accuse unrelated games of trying to kill TF2
            "Valve is doing all they can!"
            "The game is fine!"
            "We don't need new updates!"
            Considering bug-fixes and localization fixes as "content patch"

            I should mention this bingo aims for the 'i dont play tf2, i havent played in 9 years, i dont care, i still decide to comment here' crowd, not getting over an ex behavior

            add TF2C shilling

            Will do

            Also added two more

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Aimed at non-players
              Fortunately all the ideas still apply because Ganker doesn't play video games in the first place

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >i dont play tf2, i havent played in 9 years
              you mean the same people that my post described? because the hatcucks in these threads say that shit and you can bet your ass they don't play TF2 anymore. Both the player counts and the inability for those laughable campaigns to get anything done prove it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I should mention this bingo aims for the 'i dont play tf2, i havent played in 9 years, i dont care, i still decide to comment here' crowd
              All of my suggestions came from that angle because I'm one of those people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your reading comprehension is FRICKING terrible, man.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >TFC Shill
              Not TFC, TF2 Classic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Chalk up "muh artstyle" gays, that's been a pretty consistent one for people that don't play the game.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Add "lil bro, blud, etc." newbie speak

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bots
          >hats
          >trannies

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          add TF2C shilling

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Screaming about Tyler
          Patting yourself on the back for liking a dead game
          Accuse unrelated games of trying to kill TF2
          "Valve is doing all they can!"
          "The game is fine!"
          "We don't need new updates!"
          Considering bug-fixes and localization fixes as "content patch"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "Actually, the REAL players number in the hundreds of thousands!"
            "No, I won't accept this chart. Only Valve tells the truth."
            "Nice try, shill!"
            "Bots are a myth!"
            "Bots are not a myth but they are overestimated!"
            "Actually we have lots of bots infesting the game but they are controlled by ecelebs who want to destroy TF2!"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Traders
          >Uncle Dane
          >No mentions of Kogasatopia
          >"SaveTF2 failed so this won't work"
          >"Remove Sniper" (as if bots wouldn't just use Scout next)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Kogasatopia
            turboAIDS server

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              this troony is mad

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pedophiles go in the homosexual bin along with homosexuals and trannies, even now that you're larping as alt-right instead of communeet

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They'll just use Heavy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          TF2 died in 2099.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Phlog not OP according to [Youtuber]
          "Tough Break improved game balance"
          Trans game
          Furry game
          CSGo shitters complaining about TF2 not making sense to them
          TF original mod complaining about TF2 and TFC being too cartoony and casual
          "They can't just delete sniper to fix bots, it's the highest skill class"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Relatively low TTK
        That point is wrong though. TF2 actually has a very high TTK and that's what makes fights in the game so great. Solo 1v1 engagements can go on for seconds and become an actual back and forth with on the fly decision making. It's not like CS where the other guy just dies the moment you look at them. There's exchange.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymtous

          This. In modern games it's either instant death or some dumb incap mechanic that turns you into a living rock so you can be rezzed

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          TF2's TTK is "relatively low" compared to MOBAs/Hero shooters. Most classes die in 2-3 shots compared to something like Overwatch asking you to hold down M1 on someone for like 5 straight seconds to get a kill.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. In modern games it's either instant death or some dumb incap mechanic that turns you into a living rock so you can be rezzed

          >TF2 actually has a very high TTK
          That's due to the movement like what this guy

          I will let go of TF2 the moment a single worthwhile multiplayer game that has these features exists:
          >mechanics based instead of ability based
          >focus on movement rather than pure aim
          >intelligent visual design that isn't just VFX diarrhea
          >likeable characters that aren't sterile and safe
          >high team size to prevent compBlack personing, anything lower than 6v6 inevitably becomes league of legends
          >customization that goes deeper than skins and cosmetics
          >little to no moderation and matchmaking
          until then, TF2 is the only option

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can tell when someones a twitter lefty just by the amount of text they put in their meme

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't wait for this Black person to do a 180 on Deadlock the moment some hot alien is added as one of the heroes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >heh I bet you'd change your opinion on the game if it got good

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Soiteens are gay?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        apart from true dedicated servers that's literally BFV

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one's telling you to play other games, they're saying give up and kys and move on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A high degree of player expression through item or ability loadouts
        Does TF2? I can count the viable unlockables with one hand.
        >An artstyle that isn't straight ass
        Cosmetics.

        TF2 is shit. Deadlock is shit. If you're not into Valve for their Linux push and that alone, you're moronic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I can count the viable unlockables with one hand.
          This wasn't the case before all the compgay nerfs/"reworks".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I quit the game before the tourneygay update and that was the case.

            >troonix user can't appreciate tf2
            lol

            What is there to appreciate about 3 classes playing Quake for special kids while everything else is gimped?

            >Cosmetics.
            The cosmetics are annoying additions on top of a god-tier base; even when there's some moron running around with clusterfrick neon lime everything the character is still always instantly recognizable outside of that one Pyro setup with the pants that make you look like you're on the other team, that shit's moronic

            >the character is still always instantly recognizable
            Dotards say shit like this, frick you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >troonix user can't appreciate tf2
          lol

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cosmetics.
          The cosmetics are annoying additions on top of a god-tier base; even when there's some moron running around with clusterfrick neon lime everything the character is still always instantly recognizable outside of that one Pyro setup with the pants that make you look like you're on the other team, that shit's moronic

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no one says this

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whoops meant for

            >STOP KILLING GAMES, HOW DARE, IM NOT SUPPORTING IT
            nobody says this other than autistic morons who can't move on
            in fact, you're literally that statement right now with your very post about TF2
            have some self awareness

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >too illiterate to read beyond 4 words
              i accept your concession

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >matches dont take like 40 mintues

        Whoever made this images is a bias moronic since tf2 has game mades like control point, ctf and some payload maps can be just as if not longer than 40min to get through

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >control point, ctf and some payload maps can be just as if not longer than 40min to get through
          The game hardcaps matches at like 20 minutes by default before forcing a stalemate or win/loss, dumbass

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >[laughs in meet your match]
            Seriously it depends on the server settings and the standard set by valve literally lets games go on forever. CTF and PLR don't have stalemate timers and control points maps reset their stalemate timers every time a point is capped. Even IF a stalemate is triggered MYM won't advance the match score so it just means yet another fricking round.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        play War Thunder™

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this image doesn't prove your case and intact only makes you come off even more autistic for having it ready to go

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Objective focused gameplay
        >But he needs 12v12 min so he can mess around in the map instead of doing the objective

        >player expression with item or ability loadout
        Considering how sprays are disabled on Valve servers, all there left are skins and taunts and all these are cheaper / easier accessible in other games.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>But he needs 12v12 min so he can mess around in the map instead of doing the objective
          Low player responsibility/High potential individual impact is literally the most fun way to design a multiplayer game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >12v12 is..bad!
          Sorry anon I like to experiment on maps and try to explore, especially if its new. It worked especially when new weapons are introduced cause people just had fun fricking around with the new thing. Not every match needs to be a sweatfest, take it slow and casual sometime.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not bad but is light on focus requirement. He can just avoid the objective.

            >cheaper
            10-20 dollars for a single skin
            20 cents for a craft hat
            >sprays
            Consumables in some games
            Packs are 5 dollars
            0 dollars to upload any image including animated, transparent, etc ones
            Objective focus keeps games from being boring deathmatch and naturally pulls in players

            You get free ingame money in OW that u can use to buy skins. 10usd season pass also gives a lot of shit. Okay now how much is an unusual hat in TF2? A Strange weapon? Earbuds? Knives in CSGO/2?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Its a wide market and depends on what you want. Unusuals are gonna be expensive no matter how you slice it. Multiclass especially. But what specifically do you want? Even case hats are usually 20 to 30 cents and up on average. This was my last setup playing heavy.
              >Professional KS Minigun:12 USD (Just a strange is 1.12 USD)
              >Horror Shawl: 12 Cents
              >Heavy Metal: 13 Cents
              >Hog Heels: 65 Cents

              If you dont include the additional pro KS Kit the set is only around 2.02 cents as a estimate

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point is that the season pass model is cheaper (especially if we consider how OW doesn't have special weapons). If we ever get TF3, I hope it won't have the loot box model.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cheaper
                It's not. On average tf2 cosmetics are cheap, unusuals are rare outliers (which is kinda the point of them)
                Anyone can buy 4 hats, the equivalent of one loadout for a class, or four separate cosmetics for 4/9 classes. There's also the mix and match aspect as opposed to skins where it's all one asset outside of rare shit like mythics

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cheaper
          10-20 dollars for a single skin
          20 cents for a craft hat
          >sprays
          Consumables in some games
          Packs are 5 dollars
          0 dollars to upload any image including animated, transparent, etc ones
          Objective focus keeps games from being boring deathmatch and naturally pulls in players

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically.
      Player numbers didn't go up with updates. Therefore, the only people playing are those already stuck. No changes to the game will bring others back.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ...except they did? If you're gonna post bait, at least do the bare minimum of research

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Zesty Jesus did a whole deep dive on it
          >compared Steam's numbers to numbers from Teamwork.tf
          >Steam displays how many accounts have the game running, Teamwork shows how many people are actively playing the game (i.e. not in menus, queueing, etc.)
          >Teamwork's numbers are roughly 50k less than Steam's and follow a normal waveform (i.e. rise in the morning, peak in the evening, decrease as people go to sleep) while Steam's are consistently high with erratic fluctuations (20k accounts go offline at the same time within minutes when there's a server outage in the middle of the night, then come back online all at the same time hours later)
          >trade bots are known to come online during Smissmas to farm Giftapults since you don't need to be actively playing to get those drops
          >Steam shows a MASSIVE spike in players when the event starts and a MASSIVE drop when it ends
          >Teamwork shows a slight increase but otherwise stable fluctuations
          Tl;dr tens of thousands of accounts log into TF2 when updates happen, but almost none of those added accounts are actually playing the game as evidenced by server data. TF2 isn't gaining new players, but maybe that's something to do with literally 70% of its playerbase being wienersucking bots.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Steam's numbers to numbers from Teamwork.tf
            >the site that got exposed like twice for making their numbers
            lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      third post best post, deluded tftroons seething in the replies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously. This is old news.

      Skinny white dudes that never got pussy, skinny white previous dudes who are now semi not dudes who never got pussy, and low iq brown people.
      That's the entire remaining playerbase.

      TF2 is and always has been Ganker's game and there is nothing to "move on" to. Zoomer shooters are all DEI-filled esportsbait for kids with ADHD.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Zoomer shooters are all DEI-filled esportsbait for kids with ADHD.
        says the millenial Black personhomosexual playing TF on training wheels, TF2 gameplay-wise is nothing but a skilless casualized version of TFC

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reddit game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why should I? There's no real reason to if you think about it. People are still playing football. You wouldnt tell someone it's "time to move on" from that game. How is a video game any different?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if they treat TF2 this way, what's to keep them from doing the same to CS2 they already are or deadlock?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Valve still sells keys and shit while also taking tax from the marketplace, If they're gonna monetize the game, they better make sure it's in a playable state

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What fricking moon logic are you on that Valve is personally responsible for community servers being garbage and homosexual morons hosting bots to try and get people to ask Valve to nerf the sun on a stick because the steam market exists?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Their game, their anticheat, their problem.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At this point they might as well make TF3.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this
        TF3 would be the best decision they could do at this point

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tf2 players will seethe and cope about how valve won't update tf2 and won't touch tf3.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only compgays would stay because of mah meta but no TF2 players would migrate in mass. Stragglers would be compgays, traders, and thirdies too poor to play tf3
          and cheaters, if they don't frick up vac in this theoretical sequel (lol)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They'd have to figure out a way to make all the items in TF2 transfer over to TF3. The game has existed for so long and the Mannconomy is so integral to the community and cashflow that they can't just start fresh.

        It's doable but would require some work to do, so Valve will never do it.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shut up Tyler.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many man hours were wasted making shartifact and blunderlords?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Harrison ford

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For me it's Testicle Chowder

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Stryper Monthly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. If they don't want to fix TF2, whatever, but then they turn around and make a shitty card game spinoff for their hamster wheel simulator Dota and a dollar store MOBA shooter years after the fad died.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who fricking gives a frick about tf2 for god's sakes?????? the fame came out in 2007, for frick's sakes!!!!!! this is what's wrong with pc gaymers, they're entitled spolt little fricking infantile children who expect devs to spend millions on updating decades old games just because. there probably aren't more than a thousand people playing tf2 worldwide, even.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dude who the frick cares. tf2 was completely playable before matchmaking was introduced, you can play in community servers any time. the game is not broken.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Community servers are dead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are alive in my machine

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all the community servers you need are the party Gankeran

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mcBlack person
    so completely false

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering all the wasted manhours on their mobile desk workgroups and every deadend venture, hearing Valve talk about "it costs money to fix tf2" is hilarious. They don't care, Gabe will take the Microsoft money and buy his own island state in the pacific.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Save TF2.
    The only way to save TF2 would be turning the official servers off, so the game wouldn't have to suffer it's community anymore.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All they have to do is bring back servers for paid users only, and gradually ban the grandfathered bot accounts.
    No more f2p, no more cosmetics and loot boxes, no problems.
    If they do this, plus allow for "classic" gameplay where all classes have their launch weapons only, then I will reinstall TF2 again (I bought the orange box).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is unironically probably the best option until they figure out what's going on

      Just make it so 75% of servers won't let you join unless you have a paid account. You'll still get the odd bot that's the result of a stolen account, but that would solve 90% of the problem right there. If you wanna join, just drop $5. There are F2P games with way higher barriers of entry to the real game than that and none of them are as good as TF2.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Valve has declined as a game developer but Steam is still the best game store by far. And shit like Proton is very impressive.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But Ganker told me Valve doesn't care about money as they have billions of billions?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"rumor"
    >mcBlack person

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why contain it? Let it spill over into the forums and boards, let the negative reviews
    pile up in the store page. In the end, they'll beg us for deadlock.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      's cool

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You underestimate humankind's love of hats.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is the same man who made a long youtube video about how Counter-Strike 2 will never be a thing, then deleted everything when CS2 was released

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >properly fix the problem
    dont they just need to add back quickplay and rollback mym?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >back-end networking
    As opposed to?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      middle-end

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >employee hours
    It’s called man hours and it only takes one man hour to permanently remove all the hat economy shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very misogynistic what about woman hours?????

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate youtube drama and shit but why has no one made a expose video against mcvicker yet when he done some geuinly shitty things for years hes one of the few youtubers who genuily deserves it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think everyone just hates him and understands he is a shit person

      there's nothing to expose

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a rumor (from McBlack person no less), but the implications that not once did Valve consider reverting back shitass matchmaking people pushed back against since it launched is comical. They really don't want to admit how moronic it was.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's the point of bots anyways?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chronic online Black folk who are lel heckin good with technology (and terrible at anything else in their life) get their ass handed to them fair and square. They get so devastated and/or cucked they just attempt to ruin the game for everyone by botting every lobby and game up. Literally lifeless parasites

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so it's just trolling? not even farming some kind of currency or whatever? Wow

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so it's just trolling?
          Cheating completely unopposed since Valve doesn't give a shit, like maggots festering on an open wound
          >not even farming some kind of currency or whatever
          We do have idler bots that farm drops and cases, but they're considerably less disruptive

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Except maggots living inside a festering wound is a good thing as they prevent necrosis from spreading, bots are the opposite of that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most are idle/trade bots farming things like crates and giftapult drops

      Others are cheater bots that just exist to frick up the game for everyone else, no one really knows why

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tyler "I leaked the source code" McBlack person

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, the TF2 bot plague is his own damn fault
      #KillTF2
      #DeathToTF2
      #SupportTF2BotHosters
      #TF2MostOverratedGame

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just move on
    play apex or tekken or even cod
    theres other multiplayer vidya outside of tf2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This guy was ejected into obscurity because he's a boring moronic homosexual
    Why do people ever give a frick about his opinions or "RUMOURS" when he was proven to have fricking 0 credibility several times

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"rumor"

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Actually posting what this fricking hack sneedclave loving moron says
    >"Rumors"
    Seriously have a nice day

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >play shit game
    >get shit product
    waaaaw

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    please be sure to buy the new summer case tho!

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand what people are expecting from this. The whole thing is just "Fix TF2" but without a "or else" part
    >we're going to hecking boycott the 2024 summer case
    Lol
    Lmao
    TradeBlack folk will try to bank on the low supply to sell rare hats at high prices. Nothing will change

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >company makes 5 billion a year in pure profit
    >that's 5000 millions a year

    Valve is no better than microsoft. At least microsoft is honest about their greed.

    At least microsoft gives us an OS that's actually usable, what does valve give you besides retailing games and taking your money

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The most genuinely deranged post on Ganker right now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still find it funny that linuxtards will brag about freedom and suck Gaben's wiener and his closed source DRM in the same breath

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously valve acts like a parasite. They take a third of the income from small developers while they sit on their asses doing nothing but pumping out more shitty live service garbage they will inevitably abandon. Valve doesn't exactly have a good track record right now. CS2 and L4D2 are filled with cheaters, TF2 is filled with bots that are impersonating and doxing people and they don't even care, and Artifact and Underlords were outright shut down because they weren't instant hits.
      Frick microsoft too though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how is a bot impersonating or doxxing?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They've been using AI to clone small youtubers voices to spam and also posting their addresses in chat.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the actual doxxing is done by humans, the bots just impersonate the victim and spam the link to his dox in the game's chat, sometimes they also play AI voice clips of the victim saying Black person Black person Black person or saying pedo things

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valve is no better than microsoft
      Microsoft is a Pentagon and NSA contractor with ties to Israel. Windows' security is shit on purpose and they were doing Blackrock shit before ESG was a thing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd be fine with this dystopia if only women had to adhere to it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait for it everyone! He's going to say "Da israelites!"

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smart decision. Ultimately, profit must come first. The remaining Team Fortress 2 players will just have to make do, but it'd be better if they were sign posted to another Valve game.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RUFUS >>>>>>> VALLURE

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do i run a TF2 bot?
    Any github repo?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://github.com/RosneBurgerworks
      #KillTF2
      #DeathToTF2
      #SupportTF2BotHosters
      #TF2MostOverratedGame

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hatgays are just like /misc/gays
    there is never a simple reason why the game is shit and valve doesn't care. it must always be a conspiracy or a network of anti-shills.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would a /misc/gay complain about someone shouting Black person Black person Black person?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're right. a /misc/gay would never complain that TF2 got ruined with the F2P patch because /misc/gays are brown and poor

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          GOTTEM.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      being a hatcuck overlaps with being a valvegay so the TF2 fanbase will never blame Valve for anything but always point fingers at shadow conspiracies

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine how often that guy must've been called mcBlack person when he was young

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He'll always be a McBlack person. Even his tombstone will be vandalized.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Someone remind me why we hate him so much.
        I remember one of the reasons being his "leaks" always turning out false
        he also leaked some source code I think?
        What else was there, I need a refresher

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he believes TF2 is in a bad shape which is haram among Ganker hatcucks

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You got me wrong, I hate him too. I just kinda forget why

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i told you, moronic Black person

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol, assblasted

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol, TF2 is dead

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                never got into it, so I dont give a shit. you are still an assblated moron tho

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOO MY 20 YEARS OLD GAME YOU HAVE TO FIX IT NOW YOU EVIL CORPO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Muh poor multi-billion dollar corporation shouldn't have to ensure a product is functioning while they still profit from it

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More people were mad about them dropping support for windows 7, when they could have easily coded a launcher for 7 and didn't.

    If they didn't care enough to do that and the backlash, why would they give a flying frick about some old men moaning about tf2?

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mcBlack person

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TF2 died with MLP

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sad but true, the other day some anons were talking about how bronies back in the day were way better that the kind of furry shit we have today.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    POST ELECTRA

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tyler “I’m not gonna review Valve games anymore” McVicker blogpost

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tyler wife is cute…
    I also want a cute pale autistic girl to groom for decades to be my wife and then control her access to her phone and the internet…

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why don't you gays just run private servers like cs has done for years?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's easier to pretend the game is fine and Tyler is behind everything

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1. They're poor gays.
      2. No one will join their servers.
      3. They'll continue b***hing on Ganker why they can't scream the N word in-game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good luck getting players if you're not an already established community (Skial, Panda, UGC etc.) or an e-celeb with a large following (Uncle Dane).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and how is that valve's fault?
        if you gays really want to play so bad why the frick can't you scrap together more active servers?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          see

          >That's literally never how its worked.
          That's literally exactly how it works now, moron, that's the whole fricking problem. There used to be an expectation that people would hop onto empty/lowpop Community Servers and they would fill up as they rose up in playercount, either by people who favorited the servers or people browsing the server list. With random players entirely removed from the equation by the convenience of Matchmaking, that only leaves dedicated "members" of the community servers left, and the only way to get them to join onto an empty server these days is to organize playtimes.

          Matchmaking and Community servers are FUNDAMENTALLY incompatible.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i read that and all it gave me was the sense that you homosexuals are more angry at the game naturally becoming more niche and are looking for anything to lash out at

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          see

          that would require actual players which TF2 doesn't have

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Valve moved the server browser from the front page to the bottom of another menu and its not even called server browser anymore its called community servers. Most people aren't going to click that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They expect servers to immediately get 22/24 players 24/7, so when they don't, they instantly quit

      It's something you see all over the internet. For every 1 absolute GOD that's either willing to host or join to help get the ball rolling when there's sub-10 players, there's 1000 vermin that b***h, moan, and do nothing, usually because they're entitled, moronic, or insecure. This SaveTF2 bullshit? It's the squeaking of thousands of those vermin that just want matchmaking back

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How hard is it to run a private TF2 server?

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wow, tyler still trying to latch onto anything at valve after he got caught leaking?

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tf2 should die.
    t. played yesterday and it was shitty and bot filled

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      frick off tyler the game is fine my buddies on Ganker and a gay furry artist agree with me

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to play some freak fortress, haven't played in ages- so I went to go get all the new weapons I don't own but what? I need to give valve my phone just to trade otherwise I have to wait 15 days? what the frick man? Hate that shit.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: anons slowly realize why games dropped server browsers in favor of one-button matchmaking garbage

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TF2 had a one button quick play button for a long time and it was never a problem.
      The matchmaking they added is just fundamentally bad and slower than quickplay ever was.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slowly realize
      I've always known. It's because abandoning Server Browsers means you can sucker in complete dopamine addicts who just want to be dropped into a machine. It allows devs to control the exact content experienced and the lifespan of the game.

      i read that and all it gave me was the sense that you homosexuals are more angry at the game naturally becoming more niche and are looking for anything to lash out at

      Are you fricking illiterate? Again, it's nothing to do with the game becoming "more niche". I have no problem with that. The game I've been playing more than any other this year has an average playercount in two digits. The issue with TF2 is that its current state was not a natural process; they forced matchmaking into the game and completely disrupted the player culture and ecosystem, and they gave players direct incentives through contracts and boosted item drops to abandon community servers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forced matchmaking
        i'm sure i could dig up threads from here from years ago where people were begging for this shit but quite frankly i don't care enough to do it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't give a shit what people said back then. I've always thought Matchmaking was a fricking terrible idea and I always will. The heart of TF2 lied in its Community Servers, and the way matchmaking works is a deliberate attempt to bleed it out.

          >There's PERCIEVED convenience, you fricking moron.
          Stopped reading there, lol
          It's been unplayable for years and this is known by everyone. Nobody would perceive that at this point, and if you wanna say "but they are just that moronic," then YOU are the one that is that moronic. You matchmaking babies are on a whole extra level of cope.

          You're a fricking moron. How has anything I've said implied I'm a "matchmaking baby?" Matchmaking was the SINGLE WORST THING Valve has done to this game. It benefitted nobody but dopamine addicts who just want to click a button and be thrown into the matchmaking cycle, but unfortunately the whole gaming landscape is designed to cater to those types these days. The mere existence of this "SAVETF2" shit being about the fricking bots that only exist to exploit the utterly soulless, trashy nature of matchmaking rather than to get rid of matchmaking itself is proof that this game can't be fricking fixed so long as Matchmaking is around.

          So if the community can band together to b***h and moan at valve, making petitions, youtuber videos, graphics, review bombs... why is the community unable to make a concerted effort to inform people to stop using the match making?
          Everyone, EVERYONE, fricking knows that TF2 has a bot problem and how the game is """LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE""". Why not put that energy in to persuading TF2 players to just play on community servers?

          >why is the community unable to make a concerted effort to inform people to stop using the match making?
          Because the community effectively gaslit itself (with the aid of Valve) into believing Matchmaking was an improvement. You don't understand how these people think. It doesn't matter to them that matchmaking is flooded with bots, kicks you out of the map after two rounds, has no custom content, no sense of community, no moderation, nothing; people have CONDITIONED themselves through queue times and contracts and one-click systems into believing that Matchmaking is the way to keep the game alive. To them, if bots are flooding matchmaking, then the game is dying.

          That's why these systems are fundamentally incompatible. The mindsets both systems ask of the players DIRECTLY oppose eachother. Community Servers cannot exist with players using matchmaking and Matchmaking cannot exist with players using Community Servers.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol mucho texto
            he mad

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're goddamn right I'm mad. I'm furious that the only decent multiplayer shooter still around is being ruined because the company that made it implemented a system that does LITERALLY NOTHING BUT MAKE THE GAME WORSE. That it's been in this dogshit state for so long that people assume it's the default, that there's no other options, and how as long as they continue to assume that the other options literally cannot function because the lifeblood of a community server is random pub players hopping from server to server to find something to do for the day. Why the frick wouldn't I be mad? Why the frick aren't YOU mad?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why the frick aren't YOU mad?
                Because the bot hosters killed Casual, so it's no longer taking any players from servers. Why would I be mad? I'm borderline elated over here!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because the bot hosters killed Casual, so it's no longer taking any players from servers.
                If this were true, I'd agree. I would wholeheartedly praise all the botgays for driving the droves of matchmaking addicted morons into Community Servers where they should have always been. They're not. Matchmakinggays are still playing matchmaking. They're making campaigns to Valve to remove the bots so they can play it more. They're filming videos of themselves playing on matchmaking so they can show off the bots and streaming themselves playing matchmaking so they can show the whole world what they wish they could do. There is no saving this game as long as matchmaking exists, because matchmakinggays CANNOT pry themselves out of its jaws. They're too fricking moronic to do so.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it is true. The people still doing matchmaking are a small minority of grifters doing it for the drama. Everyone else has been moved to Community Servers. You're just massively overestimating the amount of people that are interested in TF2.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this game would be dead in the gutter without matchmaking. if so many people wanted to play on community servers they would. but they fricking don't. because somehow playing on them is even worse than bot filled matchmade servers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The game was fine with quickplay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no community server fits the criteria for quickplay anymore
                no true solution for bots on valve servers

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this game would be dead in the gutter without matchmaking. if so many people wanted to play on community servers they would.
                And they DID. Before Valve forced matchmaking into the game, the vast majority of the playerbase played on Community Servers. "Valve Servers" were a punchline, a joke, and even the people who played on them knew it. It wasn't until matchmaking was implemented with the contracts and boosted item drops and eceleb after eceleb shotuing from the rooftops about how this was "SO GOOD FOR THE GAME, WE CAN COMPETE WITH OVERWATCH NOW GUYS" that people fricking tricked themselves into believing matchmaking was EVER needed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope and seethe TF2 troon, your Black personhomosexual game is finally dying for good
                https://github.com/RosneBurgerworks
                #KillTF2
                #DeathToTF2
                #SupportTF2BotHosters
                #TF2MostOverratedGame

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm MORE PISSED on the fact that the only solution you homosexuals have is to cry on xitter, mention your boring life stories and posting your shitty art with your "tf2sona" fighting some bots along with spamming "muh #save/fixTF2" and reddit memes ad nauseam. Face it man! You're all depending on a shameless grift made by an MVM addict to see if Valve HOPEFULLY thinks of a solution somehow

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Infinite money glitch
    If there really was so much money in Desktop video game sales, you would have seen way more competitors taking on Valve. We have only seen half hearted attempts by lesser companies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >We have only seen half hearted attempts
      Microsoft and their Game Pass is pretty huge competition.
      Also EPIC Games that buys up stuff just to make it exclusive to EPIC Store.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tencent is basically Valves rival and they're beating them in China which is the market that matters way more by dollar value and audience amount. Theres more 4x people in China than USA.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PLEASE PLASE PLEASE PLEASE POST ELECTRA

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >electra
      Eletronic Arts? How is EA related to this thread?

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The more i got into this, the more i have to conclude that the bot hosters are incredibly based.
    >nooo, you can't just bulls some eceleb
    >noooo, you can't just say the Black person word
    Get fricked, normies.
    Pic related is from a bot hoster discord that normies published to say: "look how evil they are"
    No, i am siding with them now.

    Black person

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, I agree. They're heroes. So what games do you play

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So what games do you play
        Minecraft

        And guess what: I host it myself.
        Maybe you cucks should stop relying on a corporation.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >plays minecraft in his own little world
          >goes to Ganker to shit on people for wanting a corporation do to their job and keep their own game functional
          It's insane what lengths idiots like you go to feel superior.
          >Hurr just host the game on some custom master server that not one other human being would ever be interested in taking the effort to use, IT'S THAT EASY
          We want to play the game. The multiplayer game. With other people.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the game is fine as is, Tyler. just use community servers

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That will never work unless Valve removes the casual button completely. It is not our fault the playerbase still wants to use casual and if that is the case, it's fair to urge Valve to fix it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i just joined their bot-hoster discord, which they SaveTF2 cucks published in their video, and i will start running bots now

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're a rusBlack person.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine losing to slavshits lmao, TF2 players are truly pathetic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, other European.
                But i have a VPS in the USA too, so i can make sure to run some bots with good pings to you too.

                I wish you good luck in your Community server endeavor, that you will be now forced to do.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that not one other human being would ever be interested in taking the effort to use

            The more bots there are in Casual mode, the more people will have to switch to community servers.
            If nobody does join your server, this means that they join some other server, which means that there are already enough servers.... just use them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >turd world discord teens are good because they say no-no words

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Glad you've seen the light Anon, TF2 is a pathetic game that deserves to die with an even more pathetic community full of manchildren that can't even leave their basement to show up at Valve's offices and protest
      https://github.com/RosneBurgerworks
      #KillTF2
      #DeathToTF2
      #SupportTF2BotHosters
      #TF2MostOverratedGame
      Black person Black person Black person

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny because other Valve games with matchmaking that is where the majority of players also go.
    The majority of people playing l4d play on vanilla maps, regardless of campaign or vs mode.
    The majority of CS players are in queues over the community servers
    etc

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      uuuh n-no you see the uh matchmaking button in tf2 is rigged by tyler and uncle dave to throw you into uh bot games and uh they also made the community server button too small and out of the way so uh new players (which there are thousands of, coming in every day) get confused and uh you know...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My point is despite having community servers, people will always rely on matchmaking to play the game outside of niche game modes.
        You braindead moron.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >should we hire some more people
    >no, let's do even less
    >... is that possible?
    >check this *does nothing*
    just valve

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've already made peace with TF2 never being fixed. There's nothing that will succeed it properly, though Splatoon scratches a lot of the same itch. Not the same level of anarchy and pacing, but as class-based objective-based multiplayer shooter it fits enough. I've gotten over four thousand hours out of TF2 ever since the beta back in 2007, bots can never take that away from me.
    Right now I'm just enjoying the fact that Valve will have to deal with this nonsense with at least something of a public response if not a meaningful update, while also simultaneously trying to sell a fricking hero shooter to the public, alongside stuff like Sony also selling a bunch of hero shooters for some reason.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >COME ON GUYS!!!1!! WE GOTTA BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVEEEE!!!1!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Spikeymikey
      Why is there a bot hoster there?
      >Zenith
      Is she a real girl? pretty cute pfp

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny how they've got 50 e-celebs, so if each had just 5 viewers that were willing to play TF2, you'd have 10 full vanilla servers, but you're not seeing any kind of SaveTF2 collection of community servers

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And this is essentially why they're not going to be able to make any progress with this, with all of these people that care about the state of the game, certainly someone can make their own collection of private servers + client to connect to these and then enact whitelists based off of steam profiles and registration, essentially making the bot problem go away.
        Plus with the amount of people that have signed the petition, reasonably a tenth are fully capable of supporting third party servers in some way (playing and donating, becoming serious moderators, things of that nature) which would ensure that the game is playable for those that would want it playable.
        Of course common criticisms are that private servers are usually partially if not wholly supported by people that do not want free speech in their servers, to which I say if people are paying for a service, their expectations of moderation are the ones to meet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shounic actually runs an experimental 100 player server and is using the mannpower to re-balance a bunch of tf2's stock maps for 50v50. literally the only community i know of that's trying to do that.

        also workshopped a flowchart of concepts that could improve or fix the situation, and came to the conclusion that all of them were wrong and not good solutions, and that tf2's playerbase is pretty fricking dumb, especially his own followers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s better than doing nothing. The fact that bot Black folk are actually afraid of Fixtf2 shows that there is merit in this movement.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      was this just another youtuber circlejerk

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's always a youtuber circlejerk with TF2gays

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It always has been.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I find the fact that Uncle Dane is one of the flagship shills for this movement to be EXTREMELY FRICKING FUNNY because he's literally the one guy responsible for the absolute shit state the game is in.
      He's the one who memed "GUISE TEE EFF TOO IS DYING WE GOTTA GO COMPETITIVE ESHARTS IF WE WAN TOO SURVIVE!!!!!" into existence, leading to Meet your Match, which replaced the community-focused quick play system with the easily exploited matchmaking dogshit we have today.
      Frick that homosexual. Hope he gets what he deserves.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The killtf2 gays are just third world teenagers that are angry they missed out on playing one of the greatest games of all time at its peak. Sad.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wake up
    >see gay shit by israelitetubers
    >ignore it and play two hours of PL_UPWARD CLASS WARS RANDOMIZER (always at 24+ players)
    there's nothing to fix, it's already perfect as it is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >(always at 24+ players(90% of them bots))

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mindbroken

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >noooooo there are no booooots
          assbroken

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        liar, at worst one or two joins the game and they always get votekicked

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is it that people INSIST on having one single map all the time?
      >old class wars server I spend lots of time on died
      >find another one with mostly same settings
      >it's ONLY dustbowl, 24 hours a day, whole week, not even variants of dustbowl like rain, snow or whatever else
      I like dustbowl but holy shit can we play, I dunno, something else for a bit?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        same mental disease as compgays, everything must be predictable for autists

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the rumour is
    I FRICKING LOVE TWITTER RUMOUR THREADS!

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's this supposed to achieve?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have billions of dollars. They can easoly afford to throw a few hundred k at prrserving their legacy. They choose not to, either out of greed or being too overlevraged or something. The amount of money it would take these homosexuals to fix the issue would be earned back in 1 afternoon.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gamers that only play one game are trash

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Microsoft does more for the MCC than valve does for TF2. Sad.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Microsoft does more for the MCC
      No, it's complete shit too.
      They actively made it worse with Chat Reporting and troony messages on the title screen.

      But everybody runs their own servers and every causal is conditioned to install mods, because the performance of vanilla is atrocious and mods fix it, so there is absolutely no problem with ignoring Microsofts bullshit.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    literally all I want is for them to kill matchmaking
    surely it wouldn't take that long

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Matchmaking is already kill, that's the point

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not kill enough
        we need to force the stragglers off so we can fill up the community servers better

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they play a dead game

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TF2 still works fine. Just play on a community server.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you ever consider to just play on a community server instead?

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just delet all fricking moronic cosmetics and return to original state and this will never die.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry I don’t support people who only play one game, you don’t actually like video games you just like being a mentally ill drug addict who smokes all day and wants to play something you don’t have to think about. Actual gaming enthusiasts play all genres of games across multiple decades and once they complete one they move on to the next, or maybe they replay an old reliable, but they don’t get into troony shit flinging fights like WAOW DUDE I HAVE 30,000 HOURS IN LE GAME

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just wanted to pop in and say I'm not going to buy or play deadlock

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I consider myself an intentionally annoying homosexual kind of poster here on Ganker - I always play devil's advocate to an obnoxious level at times. And usually, no matter how hard I try to play it I get some genuinely good responses.
    But this time, when I hop in to #SAVETF2 threads and play devil's advocate by pointing out that Community servers still exist, and are still playable, not a single person can actually prove me wrong.
    I've had a few good comebacks like:
    >"TF2's moronic newbie fanbase that joined after MyM are too moronic to use the server browser."
    Yet this same community can come together and get 200,000 signatures on a petition website, put together all sorts of media like pictures and videos, and get social media platforms across the internet discussing their problems... why are they unable to instead focus this effort to get people playing on community servers instead?
    No-one can tell my why this hasn't happened yet.
    It's kinda sad.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guess they just don't want to use community servers. Dunno why.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why are they unable to instead focus this effort to get people playing on community servers instead?
      >why do morons do moronic things
      because they're moronic
      if you're looking for a better answer consider visiting your nearest mental institution and hanging out with the downies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      200,000 signatures most of which are botted or using meme names like Nate Higgers, yeah surely valve is gonna take the petition seriously

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s actually me that’s my real name

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why are they unable to instead focus this effort to get people playing on community servers instead?
      chronic lazyness

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't stop it from being a problem anyway. If everyone went to community servers so would the bots. Yeah you could ban them but it'd be a constant on going battle.
      Not to mention a lot of community servers are being DDoS'd by the bot farms, that problem would only get worse. Ultimately the problem is the bots not the servers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your answer will be ignored and he'll post the same exact thing in the next thread.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Yeah you could ban them but it'd be a constant on going battle
        And that's the same problem Valve has to face with "fixing TF2". You cannot just permanently ban a dedicated autist. Just like how jannies can't permanently ban Vidya Butts poster, or 'ick on 'eck guy.

        >Not to mention a lot of community servers are being DDoS'd by the bot farms
        Bot farms aren't really considered a problem by most people, especially since they really just stick to themselves. The bot hosters who ruin the match making literally do not have the resources to go around fricking with every single community server.
        They can only get away with the MM servers because it's just so easy to do.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Just like how jannies can't permanently ban Vidya Butts poster, or 'ick on 'eck guy.
          This is a pretty trash example considering Ganker mods+jannies just gave up on this place years ago. Any actual moderation is only done when they're upset with something or if they're notified of it a billion times, the place would be significantly better off if they gave a shit. Similar to TF2.

          Yes it does.
          Valve's servers are essentially shitty community servers in themselves, it's just joining them is baked in to the game's main menu.
          If I was a regular on a few community servers that:
          >consistently had cheaters and bots
          >were never moderated
          >generally unpleasant to be on
          I'd just stop visiting those servers and find a new one. Ideally one which has moderation.

          >Yes it does.
          No, it doesn't. The casual servers are the easiest and most varied way to play the game. You want KotH? Go casual and pick those maps. You want payload race? Go casual and pick those maps. Community servers are so dead that you quite literally can't fine any map at any time because half of them are 24/7 no respawn 2fort shitholes 90% of the time, you can rarely find servers that just play regular ass TF2. The solution isn't just "use community servers" because there simply isn't as good of a berth of community servers, and it's pretty obvious that you haven't played in years if you're pretending otherwise.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ganker mods+jannies just gave up on this place years ago
            No they haven't. They're moronic, sure. But I've seen mods/jannies doing their jobs plenty of times.

            >No, it doesn't. The casual servers are the easiest and most varied way to play the game. You want KotH? Go casual and pick those maps. You want payload race? Go casual and pick those maps.

            That is not at all what happens in Casual.
            If you want a specific map, expect to sit in queue for over an hour.
            Finding a certain gamemode, sure... but a specific map? Fricking never. Then let's say you get in to a server - the moment it ends everyone either disconnects or just votes for the same fricking top 10 maps again.
            The reason you don't find as many regular TF2 maps anymore is because the moronic playerbase abandoned community servers to go and play on MM servers.
            If there was a new demand for mostly vanilla community servers again, guess what: they'll appear.

            >it's pretty obvious that you haven't played in years if you're pretending otherwise
            Played it yesterday you falseflagging Black. Hopped on a community server and had some fun.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In order to ban bots, you have to chase after them.
        It is a quantity not quality thing. Valve would have to do the same. But the Community could do it far better. because they are many.

        Just play on Community Servers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guess they just don't want to use community servers. Dunno why.

      >why are they unable to instead focus this effort to get people playing on community servers instead?
      >why do morons do moronic things
      because they're moronic
      if you're looking for a better answer consider visiting your nearest mental institution and hanging out with the downies

      200,000 signatures most of which are botted or using meme names like Nate Higgers, yeah surely valve is gonna take the petition seriously

      >why are they unable to instead focus this effort to get people playing on community servers instead?
      chronic lazyness

      All me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Community servers existing doesn't make this not an issue.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it does.
        Valve's servers are essentially shitty community servers in themselves, it's just joining them is baked in to the game's main menu.
        If I was a regular on a few community servers that:
        >consistently had cheaters and bots
        >were never moderated
        >generally unpleasant to be on
        I'd just stop visiting those servers and find a new one. Ideally one which has moderation.

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe Valve should just shut down their servers and make a click on "Casual" open the Server Browser instead?

    It would be the easiest solution. Valve would not waste money in hosting them anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The old Quickplay system that would throw you into a random "vanilla" community server was perfect, especially since a lot of servers had that "!hop" command to take players to less vanilla servers on their network.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shutting down their servers is pointless, Valve servers were and always have been the primary vanilla servers for the game. Reversion of Casual to either quickplay or a purely community server method is a very commonly suggested solution though. The bot hosters have no power with the game returning to a decentralized approach.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't Tyler poison his well years ago with the whole "hoarding Jungle Inferno source code" thing? He's not an authoritative source on anything Valve and hasn't been for a very long time.

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If that's the case then they should just shutter Casual and Competitive mode then, and return the game to being a Community-Server driven one.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if the game is so bad why not fully abandon it to either make the devs fix it at best or get out of the abusive relationship at worst.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tf2 players aren't that smart

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >stop playing a game you enjoy
      Lmfao no doing what the bot hosters want you to do won't change a thing about the game's situation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because there's nothing else.
      The eternal problem with modern games is that so many games are in such shit states but still remain "The only place I can get [X]".

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I support bot hosters after seeing how the average tf2 fan acts like

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tf2 players aren't that smart

      anuuuu cheeki breeki iv damke

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same tbh
      https://github.com/RosneBurgerworks
      #KillTF2
      #DeathToTF2
      #SupportTF2BotHosters
      #TF2MostOverratedGame

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just play Overwatch instead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OW sucks.

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what are you homosexuals going to do if savetf2 wins? Are you gonna have a nice day?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play TF2. Same answer if it fails.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, but what would they acomplish exactly? Magically removing the bots? adding a capcha? adding some anti-cheating measure that causes the game to run slower? a pat in the back for the community"s "efforts"?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      implying it ever will?
      Valve has shown time and time again they just don't give a frick, keep buying hats tho

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The same McBlack person that snitched to the mainstream meteor that all TF2 bots were saying Black person and swastikas, thus leading Valve to disable chat and voice for F2Ps.
    Wonderful.

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TF2 really highlights the age gap
    >Epic takes down the master servers and delists all Unreal games, dunking the series into the core of the Earth
    >Gen X just gives them the finger, them and their zoomer kids that grew up on their dads' PCs keep fragging
    >Valve doesn't constantly fight bots to save matchmaking
    >Millennials piss their pants, cry, and begs to not be forced to start playing on community servers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TF2 players are a special kind of moronic, which isn't unexpected for a game that takes no skill to play compared to TFC

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TF2 fans made multiple fan ports to get off of valve's plantation and valve DMCAs them bro.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        homies can do that but not host a private server lolololololololololol

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the rumor

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This a deserved outcome after you homosexuals turned on TF Classic. TF2 Black folk deserve the rope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly what I've been saying, TF2's death is karma for killing TFC and helping kill arena shooters in general

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only furry brony trannies play tft

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you guys play her game? It's currently in Closed Alpha and you can always ask for a key on discord. Who knows, maybe by sending the devs certain feedback, you can even turn it into TF3-lite edition

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it just looks like Gigantic but worse, and I'm already enjoying Gigantic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fricking shit what a horrible HUD.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fricking shit what a horrible HUD.

      Game?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Badass!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >valve somehow made overwatch but uglier and gayer
      is there anything they cant do?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >turn THAT into tf3
      Sure. And you can turn a pig into a unicorn with the right know-how. Frick off.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have, it's extremely fun.
      UI could use a little work but the core game is really solid.

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how hard it is to combat bots. You don't see other games with 5k bots running around.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WoW always had a bot problem but Blizzard actually had dedicated employees to deal with that problem. Valve is just lazy and cheap. They make enough from lootboxes in CS2 and TF2 in a hour to pay a few people to deal with the bots for an entire year. Not an exaggeration.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Artifact
    >Underlords
    It seems obvious if Dota isn't attached, Valve won't invest heavily into it outside of CS2 which is like realistic dota 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valve investing in cs2
      AH RIGHT i forgot, silly me! A somehow even worse cheating problem in cs2 after the engine change, surf getting raped and requiring buggy as frick plugins to fix it that eats your connection, left absolutely nothing for a casual player to enjoy, somehow has less modes, AND instead of hyperfocusing on these problems they pulled a Ubisoft and ran out when the times got tough. SILLY ME anon!

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we need to make the company lose money so that we can continue to play a free game for free forever
    I hope they shut it down kek
    deal with bots on your community servers. phone authenticated accounts should do the trick.

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe when it starts bringing money like dota 2 and cs then they'll fix it tbh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CS2 is infested with bots and cheaters too, probably as many as TF2 but there's more real players to balance it out. Valve just doesn't care.

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just move on
    there exists more to vidya than just fricking class shooters
    get more taste

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah! Like valve's hero shooter...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My favorite part is when they say they're fine moving on but only if it's the same kind of game. Bluds 100% misunderstanding the assignment, lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        newbie detected. have a nice day

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kek speaking of

        Yeah! Like valve's hero shooter...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its funny how much this statement is proving true with the following replies in the thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just move on
      To what?
      I play other games, but what replaces TF2 for me?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In terms of class shooters? Nothing. It's a dead genre, in the same vein as RTS being a dead genre. Hell even hero shooters should be considered dead because no one wants that shit but people are forcing it.

        Its not just about moving on from TF2 but, moving on from class shooters in general
        its over

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Its not just about moving on from TF2 but, moving on from class shooters in general
          I won't be doing that because I don't enjoy the other options, sorry.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Looks like its time to stop playing vidya all together then, bye

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My favorite part is when they say they're fine moving on but only if it's the same kind of game. Bluds 100% misunderstanding the assignment, lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        look another one

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My favorite part is when they say they're fine moving on but only if it's the same kind of game. Bluds 100% misunderstanding the assignment, lmao

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >MOVE ON
          >To what?
          >THESE GAMES THAT ARE NOTHING LIKE WHAT YOU WANT

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My favorite part is when they say they're fine moving on but only if it's the same kind of game. Bluds 100% misunderstanding the assignment, lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's what moving on means, you stilted toddler

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why would I "move on" from something I like but am disappointed with the current state of to something I don't like?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For a normal person? It's a net benefit to try new things in this situation. If it has to be explained for you, while you're continuing your multi-year tantrum, then you're autistic, and it's more that you really should to prove that you have a slim glimmer of hope as to not troon out while your autistic obsession only gets worse. It's already consumed so many other TF2 players, you gotta get out while you can.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's a net benefit to try new things in this situation.
                I play other games. I enjoy other games. None of them are a replacement or alternative to TF2, and I've yet to see one that could be.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                You think I haven't tried? I been trying to find that replacement game but god dammit if only two have somewhat come near it but even then its miles apart. The Finals and Friends Vs Friends. The Finals is a bit goofy in design but lightweight in storage space for the destruction you can do in that game as well as it being chaotic, however it seems that its being given up on the casual aspect of it and slowly trying to grab a esports scene that dosent exist. Friends Vs Friends is stupid fun but the low server population and the EAC causing 70 percent of games to be infested with cheating homosexuals if you get anywhere up higher in the ranking ruins it too.

                I should also add that games like Splitgate died off partially due to esports homosexualry as well (Although Halo was the main culprit). Quake Live hardly has a pulse anymore which i played the frick out of the beta for but they had to ruin that. Neck esports dudebros for touching games that can just be casual fun

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, Splitgate died because they relaunched it like three times and it became too spaghetti to continue building on, leading to a content drought (very few maps) and necessitating them to start over with Splitgate 2 (which they recently teased footage of). For this error on your part, I will not read the post you want me to and I will ask you never to (You) me ever again, in this thread or any other

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      exactly this, i tried to play tf2 in jan and it doesn't hit anymore, it's boring and old and its been around forever and nothing has changed it's just an old valve relic like ricochet or dod at this point. if the esports phenomenon happened in 2007-08 instead of like.. 2016 or whatever then maybe valve would have saved it through that but even then I have doubts because the core concept of tf2 gets old fast, plus it just harbors homosexuals for some reason

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do play other games, TF2's just the only online one I regularly play. Sometimes I'll boot up DRG or L4D whenever I'm on a pve kick. Maybe Sven if it's not dead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You think I haven't tried? I been trying to find that replacement game but god dammit if only two have somewhat come near it but even then its miles apart. The Finals and Friends Vs Friends. The Finals is a bit goofy in design but lightweight in storage space for the destruction you can do in that game as well as it being chaotic, however it seems that its being given up on the casual aspect of it and slowly trying to grab a esports scene that dosent exist. Friends Vs Friends is stupid fun but the low server population and the EAC causing 70 percent of games to be infested with cheating homosexuals if you get anywhere up higher in the ranking ruins it too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i see posts like this everywhere. doesn't seem organic at all. it would be one thing if there was significant variation or natural conversation leading to someone saying this but it's always just a 'cold open' post, that invariably includes "move on" in it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you see it a lot and you focus on it independently because you know it's true, you need to move on from a dead moronic game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >constantly piss and shit everywhere over a dead game because valve wont wash your blankey
          >people tell you to shut the frick up and move on
          >NICE ORGANIC POST BOT SHILLS

          now this is quality.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >constantly piss and shit everywhere over a dead game because valve wont wash your blankey
        >people tell you to shut the frick up and move on
        >NICE ORGANIC POST BOT SHILLS

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well maybe if you morons haven't been doing the same inorganic ritual posting for literal years people would stop noticing it.

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tf2 players be like:
    >DOCTOR PLEASE REVIVE MY DEAD DAD, I CAN'T MOVE ON BECAUSE I NOBODY CAN REPLACE HIS PLACE IN MY HEART. PLEASE USE ELECTRICITY AND TURN HIM INTO A MINDLESS GHOUL.

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's either Team Fortress 3 is in development behind the scenes and fatass Gaben finally learned to count to 3 or Valve is purposely killing off the game and using the bots as a scapegoat
    These are your two options Ganker
    I'm leaning option 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valve is purposely killing off the game and using the bots as a scapegoat
      If they shut down matchmaking and force everyone onto community servers that would legitimately be a net positive, so I'm hoping its that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm thinking that will be the case.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Would matchmaking being shut down actually result in some playable community servers out of necessity? Or would we just be left with nothing but the current cancer?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, the game's fricked either way. I'd rather take the nuclear option and pray it returns things to some semblance of decency than just keep rotting away with the fricking nightmare that is matchmaking.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's been 9 years since Gun Mettle initially did a massive hit and irreparably damaged user servers via contracts.
          Literally hundreds of organic startups have come and died.
          Hell literally the only reason Skial is still around (besides the fact that they're an organic community in and of themselves outside of TF2 that hasn't imploded) is because they've gotten a lawyer to get inceldane to frick off and stop trying to pull gay ops to kill the server.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they've gotten a lawyer to get inceldane to frick off and stop trying to pull gay ops to kill the server.
            Could you tell me about this, please?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What you see is what you get.
              iirc, blackwonder had to do a similar thing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well I can't find anything about this on the internet, so I'm not sure I can trust this.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, the game's fricked either way. I'd rather take the nuclear option and pray it returns things to some semblance of decency than just keep rotting away with the fricking nightmare that is matchmaking.

          100% Matchmaking getting canned with bots learning how to backdoor into community servers via source code

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't get why they don't do the absolute bare minimum to fix this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because no matter how much you say "the bare minimum" doesn't actually change how fricked the internet ecosystem is and how fricking atrocious it'll be for the game if they started doing moronic shit like completely gimping entire classes, nuking matchmaking etc.
      Or how much you pretend that there's just a button at valve labeled "Delete Bots" that they just refuse to push.

  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >L4D2 is infested with bots and cheaters
    >TF2 is infested with bots and cheaters
    >CS2 is infested with bots and cheaters
    >People are actually excited for yet another multiplayer valve shooter that will be filled with bots and cheaters

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's kinda funny how if any other company fumbled their live service games like this they'd catch flak

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Valve can make games (or at least could), but they can't maintain them. Can't wait to see the TF2 bot crisis in deadlock a month after release.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the cost of linux gaming btw.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Linux isn't the problem, its the total lack of moderation. These bot farms would not even be technically hard to stomp out its just a task that requires dedicated employees but valve is too cheap to hire a couple people to deal with it and no one currently working for valve gives a shit.
        You know they make one billion dollars a year from CS2 crates? One fricking billion and they won't spend 500k a year to staff a couple people who do nothing but ban bots.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ne billion dollars a year from CS2 crates
          Bullshit, no way.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i could port the bot script to windows in less than a month and I'm barely even a programmer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i could port the bot script to windows in less than a month and I'm barely even a programmer.

        I don't get why they don't disable text mode. It makes it so much easier for the bots. CS:GO removed it years ago.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          2 weeks tops of no bots before they just swap to 1x1 resolution minimized.
          frankly the only 'solution' is kernel level anticheat (which means frick your privacy) but even that is bypassed now with external cheats. bots are genuinely a vexing problem. anticheat is geared to prevent players getting unfair advantages, not to prevent players from spamming the game to death.
          if I were somehow put in the driver's seat, with influence over the community at large, I would direct people to doxx bothosters lol. as it stands there's nothing really discouraging people from botting, as soon as you introduce any kind of risk most botters will drop out, cause they just do it for internet sadism dopamine. most of them are just dumb kids with no opsec so it wouldn't even be hard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Could you force a minimum resolution? Would that be enough to at least make the idle bots unprofitable?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no because you can just downgrade graphics enough that even the shittest computer can run multiple instances. pushed to its limit, sniper botters would have to drop like 30 bux on a slightly less ancient cpu or junk laptop. as it stands you can already run a whole slew of bots off just an early 2000's laptop.
              >idle bots
              misconception that they're in a match or a server, they just sit in the main menu and collect cases to sell to whales, takes basically no resources.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only way to fix the issue is to have root level security

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Any other company that does this
      STOP KILLING GAMES, HOW DARE, IM NOT SUPPORTING IT
      >Valve does it
      Lol lil blud bro cap fr on god just let it go bro haha why do you care so much its like 400 million years old haha bro blud on god

      Magically, when you ask to hold this company accountable all the sudden it dosent matter? Also the fact that the people who say "just move on bro" are always there constantly without missing a beat like some blackpilled counter culture? Ah what do I know, Ganker dosen't play videogames anyways

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >STOP KILLING GAMES, HOW DARE, IM NOT SUPPORTING IT
        nobody says this other than autistic morons who can't move on
        in fact, you're literally that statement right now with your very post about TF2
        have some self awareness

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ganker be like
      >"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PUT ROOTKIT KERNEL LEVEL ANTI-CHEAT IN MY GAME IT'S AN INVASION OF PRIVACY"
      >but also Ganker
      >"WTF WHY ISN'T VALVE DOING ANYTHING TO STOP CHEATERS?????"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except Chink Dota and Chink CS still have oodles of cheaters

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay?

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they said it themselves that noone in valve plays tf2 and they have no systems in place for onboarding fans with millions of hours in the game to train as a developer. valve employees couldn't even be paid to play tf2 whereas players would fix the game for free given the tools and proper training

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care. Still going to play on community servers until the heat death of the universe, or at least until there's a real alternative to TF2.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dumb cato poster as usual

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but all I see is a cat

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The amount of cope TF2 Black folk do is off the charts and borders on stockholm syndrome

  97. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully they fix tf2 by finally shutting it down completely instead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hopefully they fix TF2 by removing Casual
      Yeah no shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they can't, if they do that then it'll put a damper on the CS2 economy because it will set the precedent that games with such massive item markets can just be shut down.
      which lends credence to the theory that valve is using bots as a scapegoat to softkill tbh, probably is the best way to maintain PR while shutting down casual servers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If they just instantly deleted everyone's TF2 inventory it'd be the biggest lawsuit in video games history and annihilate their reputation. Nobody would ever play an online Valve game ever again since they could just snap your shit away at any moment. The goodwill they'd built up over 30+ years would disappear overnight.
      If all they do is shut down MyM servers the existing server hosts would just ramp up the amount they're running. People would be mad but it'd cool down over the course of months and years as everyone slowly transitioned back to community servers.

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no developer support
    >no new classes added
    >no battle pass
    MOVE. ON.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bishop moves onto the board
      >"GOOD SHOT MATE GOOD SHOT MATE"
      >starts diagonally sniping the other piece

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Technically Chess is actually having a similar issue to a lot of overplayed games, in that people don't actually play them, and instead rely on "meta" strategies.

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as a moron who uses matchmaking how bad is custom servers?
    I want to try it but I always get told, you'll either get kicked all the time, especially if you're not a regular, it's the same maps over and over again, you'll spend most of the time having to filter custom crap, etc..
    How true is that really, Honest answers please

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      custom servers are better than matchmaking in everyway.
      you only get kicked if you are a dick and or cringe

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you'll either get kicked all the time, especially if you're not a regular, it's the same maps over and over again, you'll spend most of the time having to filter custom crap,
      Just learn to filter out tags from servers you don't like. Join a random server with decent ping. If it sucks, take a look at the tags it had that were relevant to what you didn't like, add them to the "do not include" filter, and try again. When you find servers you like, just add them to your Favorites so you can rejoin them whenever you want.
      It takes like, 15 minutes tops if you're not completely moronic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >filter out that stuff and 24/7 map servers
        >nothing but dead community servers with maybe 2 players in them because the reality is there's only a handful of actually populated servers
        gee thanks

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Remember to do a full refresh after adding your tags, too, because the game stops loading servers when you frick with the tags.
          Also, post your filters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing stopping you from just trying it.

      Just so you know, they used to be better.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How did were they better before?

        was this before they pushed the matchmaking update?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ignore "did" I can't type apparently..

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Matchmaking update and contracts killed the game and server browsing

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >How did were they better before?
          Frankly, there was just more of them before Matchmaking hit. There used to be a pretty large number of "variety" servers that hosted normal maps, custom-but-stock-gamemode-maps, and fully custom gamemodes all on the same server, but only played them rarely so people didn't get too sick of them. FUG's Hovel was a pretty good example. Hell, that's actually what the original Ganker partyvan was before it transitioned into the "scheduled playtimes on the weekends" setup we have now.

          One that's still up is Redsun.tf, but they run more custom gamemodes than vanilla and only the EU server is ever populated.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The fact that there was more of them actually forced servers to stay good, if you were a homosexual but wanted players you couldn't have homosexual rules for your server without losing players to every other server.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hell, that's actually what the original Ganker partyvan was before it transitioned into the "scheduled playtimes on the weekends" setup we have now.
            I miss the mikevan like you wouldn't fricking believe, man.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Man I miss pre-gamergate gamenights.
              Frick the clique.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >play TF2 back in 2010
            >join a casual pub
            >everyone is active and bullshitting
            >admins would activate all-talk or RTD if people voted for it, were mostly just there to instaban any hackers/homosexuals
            >cycled through multiple maps and game modes, including community maps
            >Friday nights were goof-off nights
            >map rotation includes Balloon Race, Wacky Races, TF2 Ware, etc.
            >everyone had clan tags, joined the Steam group, knew each other
            >on weekends players with micspam software would DJ and take requests while everyone played
            >had comp highlander nights with admins shoutcasting from spectator mode
            I want it back... I WANT IT BACK.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Quickplay had a connect to community servers option which was a amazing feature cause it focused on vanilla servers, so if you did get put into a vanilla community server which was usually very well maintained it had other servers as well in its own network usually. It grew communities organically and a lot of the times they had alternate options within that server if you so choosed to delve further. It worked very well and as far as im aware, no other game really did this in the way TF2 did it. Forcing everything into a dumpfest queue and cutting community servers off left people with much less incentive cause new players hated navigating the current server browser

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why did valve do away with that change, it sounded like a perfect middle ground

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was but Meet Your Match just HAD to be like csgo in its queue system which only had the positive of being able to filter out the maps you want specifically on a wider range. Everything else was a huge downside especially the fact that it only played out one match rather than a series of matches until the server timer was up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you'll either get kicked all the time
      Doesn't happen unless you're joining obscure small servers. Skial literally doesn't give a shit who you are.
      >you'll spend most of the time having to filter custom crap
      They're pretty easy to identify from the rest of the server list. Just look for servers that don't specify a custom gamemode and the most custom content you'll see is a server rank plugin.
      >it's the same maps over and over again
      Don't join 24/7 dustbowl.
      You can easily narrow down servers with tags, just look at what servers you like and see what tags they're running.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not TF2 but it depends BF3 custom servers are great... if you live in Europe T.T
      They are always full but the ping always will get you kicked if it's above 120

  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If its a bot or cheater bot problem, just play on community servers? What is there to really save?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dont bots just ddos community servers now

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. If they went with the nuclear option bothosters would just go DDOSing (which is already happening in L4D2).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The issue is that matchmaking is the first stop, so most players are going to use that to get into the game because it's the path of least resistance. The issue is not that people "refuse" to play on community servers.

      If you cannot or will not understand that people will not choose the more cumbersome method if given the choice, then you have nothing to offer and should leave immediately.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you care about "most players" in this scenario? The solution is obvious and simple, and actually has the added benefit of weeding out undesirables that aren't bots as well. Why should anyone subject themselves to matchmaking when it has nothing but negatives attached and there is an incredibly beneficial alternative?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why do you care about
          I'm not reading any of the rest of your pedantic bullshit drooling onto your keyboard. You are openly refusing to understand what is wrong.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why do you care about people not playing the servers?
          moron.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's Valve's game, so it's their responsibility to steward the game, not the community. If they're going to continue profiting off TF2 the least they could do is take the bare minimum precautions to ensure the default game is playable.

      We've reached the point where if skial or uncletopia shut down the game would effectively be defunct and that's fricking moronic when Valve is a billion dollar company that still expects us to buy Mann Co keys.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Funny part is though its the community that will buttheads with each other more if Valve polls them what to do. You think they care if they just sunset all TF2 development and stop the seasonal patches? Valve is probably begging these morons to drum up enough to let them do it.
        t's the shitty mappers and cosmetic modellers that get picked out and profit every year who get bent over the hardest.

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd be fine with TF2 dying, but it's like the only FPS that's both fun and not full of moronic homosexuals shoehorning """competitive""" shit into everything. I understand there is some comp league or something for TF2, but that doesn't stop people from playing 64v64 shitpost servers. Every other game coming out recently has been awful fricking 5v5 or 6v6. Where the frick are all the games with larger team counts?

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like casual. I can pick the maps and game modes I want and then you have reasonable length games where there's a winner at the end. Every community server wants to play on one map forever with like 30 people on one team where balance is fricked and it's impossible to play half the classes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, there's almost no variety in what's available with community servers, at least the ones with people playing nowadays.
      I wouldn't even mind playing with slightly shitty ping if I got to play certain maps but some servers like uncle homosexual's clamp down on that.
      Not nearly enough people populating them and people are still maintaining how stubborn the filtering should be so nobody accumulates. So the result is few servers with specific rules/enforcements (i.e. class limits). Can't do what I want, don't want to play. The cycle continues.

  104. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't they just make a hud that removes casual matchmaking and only makes it so you can join via browser server? Then just have the big youtubers shill it as the #savetf2 hud or whatever

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a bandaid fix. Valve is willing to profit off a broken game full of hackers and do nothing about it, it shouldn't be the community's responsibility to make excuses and workarounds for Valve being fricking lazy.

  105. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tf2 was already shit before it went free 2 play

  106. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a friend who insists TF2 is the highest skill ceiling fps game there is with the fastest and most fluid movement system. No idea if that's true but I doubt it's anywhere as close as Tribes 1 and 2.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TF2 does have a really good movement system, easily one of the best, but no its not as fast as tribes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rocket jump is fun

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not true at all, your friend is moronicly ignorant, even tf2's predecessor tfc has a much faster and more fluid movement system especially on servers that unnerf it

  107. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is every Valve game really infested with bots and cheaters

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. They just don't care. They don't care.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >With bots
      CS2 and TF2 (for now)
      >With Cheaters
      That's literally EVERY online multiplayer game that people regularly play these days.

      Honestly surprised the same shit hasn't happened to Garry's Mod yet

      >Doesn't run on linux anymore (even via the 64bit betas)
      >Move to the game mode browser killed literally everything but DarkRP
      >inb4 NOOOOO STARWARS RP IS TOOOOOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN DARK RP BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS CALLED LORD VADER INSTEADDDD
      Yeah no I'd say GMOD did a pretty excellent job killing itself.

  108. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly surprised the same shit hasn't happened to Garry's Mod yet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      garry's been doing a fabulous job of fricking all that up on his own

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >With bots
        CS2 and TF2 (for now)
        >With Cheaters
        That's literally EVERY online multiplayer game that people regularly play these days.
        [...]
        >Doesn't run on linux anymore (even via the 64bit betas)
        >Move to the game mode browser killed literally everything but DarkRP
        >inb4 NOOOOO STARWARS RP IS TOOOOOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN DARK RP BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS CALLED LORD VADER INSTEADDDD
        Yeah no I'd say GMOD did a pretty excellent job killing itself.

        Garry is fricking it all up on his own, dont worry

        I'm just waiting for the reverse backdoor shenanigans to begin again

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Garry is fricking it all up on his own, dont worry

  109. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Volvo should just shut down TF2

  110. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TF2 was ruined the second it was updated with classes and items and shit. Only the orange box version was good.

  111. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >negative reviewbomb already slowed down to a crawl
    >no tf2gay has the balls to reviewbomb other valve games
    >youtuber videos on the topic barely gaining any traction
    >the entire movement is relegated to people circlejerking on twitter
    >petition signing went nowhere
    >even when ign reported on it it barely made any waves
    >the entire drama had even less impact than the protest two years ago
    And you know what the worse part is? Public normalgay support instantly disappears when you tell them how old the game is or when they find out that people can still apparently play the game no problem.

    How did TF2gays frick up this hard?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What I don't get is why don't they just make a hud that removes casual play? Call it the #fixtf2 hud and have the youtubers shill it. Then more people will play community servers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How did TF2gays frick up this hard?
      I think it's pretty clear when Valve explicitly stated that it was going to be a "holiday-sized update" as a very polite
      >You morons need to frick off we're not ruining more weapons that you keep dying to
      None of these things are going to go anywhere because Valve has made it pretty clear no matter how big of a tantrum they throw or how many statistics they make up they aren't going to go back to the time between Gun Mettle and Jungle Inferno, which people almost unanimously agree was a giant fricking mistake.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Public normalgay support instantly disappears when you tell them how old the game is or when they find out that people can still apparently play the game no problem.

      lmao this literally just happened to one of my autistic steambros
      he was trying to get one of our new online buddies to join him in this shit because the dude played cs and you know what he said?
      "well why dont you just play in a community server then??"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its called Black fatigue

      TF2roons have pissed away the last remaining good will they have left

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        swing and a miss with that heckin' based insult, lil' sharty

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >negative reviewbomb already slowed
      It has over 1 million reviews, it would only affect recent reviews but the fact its in the red is a surprise at all
      >no tf2gay has the balls to reviewbomb other games
      It get removed because its unrelated to the game they are talking about, we both know this
      >youtuber videos barely gaining traction
      Wow a more niche community not having mr.beast numbers? Say it aint so!
      >Entire movement is people circlejerking
      Same as it ever was
      >petition signing went nowhere
      Idk anon, 200k signs is pretty good and the campaign is still going on
      >Even when ign reported on it it barely made waves
      Relying on normies is a gamble cause people are allergic on making three clicks on something
      >the entire drama had less impact
      That is fair but most of those initial videos still apply so people would be redirected to the content that was already up before
      >Public normalgay support dropped off
      See previous point
      >How did tf2gays frick up this hard
      Hmm I dont know anon being surrounded by pessimistic crabs in the bucket not just on this game but games in general might have something to do with it and the constant spam of "Lol blud let go lol just we like fortnite zoom zoom zoom zoom" May, just MAY have some negative impact with it. I know like that is CRAZY right? I been downing the blackpill for 5 years and longer but im tryin at least something different

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >negative reviewbomb already slowed down to a crawl
        >no tf2gay has the balls to reviewbomb other valve games
        >youtuber videos on the topic barely gaining any traction
        >the entire movement is relegated to people circlejerking on twitter
        >petition signing went nowhere
        >even when ign reported on it it barely made any waves
        >the entire drama had even less impact than the protest two years ago
        And you know what the worse part is? Public normalgay support instantly disappears when you tell them how old the game is or when they find out that people can still apparently play the game no problem.

        How did TF2gays frick up this hard?

        it fricking worked for helldivers it should work for tf2 autism, if that doesn't then, thats pretty sad on the communities part showing how loud they are while being such a small small minority

  112. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i am noticing a pattern of "just play community lmfao" being posted by people with broken english or otherwise being the dumbest gorillas to ever swing through the jungle

    why is this, Ganker

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ESL CHADS are using common sense, while first worlders need everything handed to them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nobody called a chad on Ganker is deserving of the title

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Haha, true.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They play uncletopia
      What do you think.

  113. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ultimate pill to swallow is that TF2 doesn't have the numbers to support community servers/balkanization.
    So your choice is matchmaking, but that's its own shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      matchmaking is the cancer, the problem, and removing it is the solution

      it has the community to thrive just fine. it will not thrive if matchmaking is the main way people continue to interact with the game. it will continue to be the main way people interact with the game if it continues to exist

  114. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based
    troony fortress Black folk need to give up, game is dead
    No one is screaming at fromsoft to fix retro boomer games like dark souls, why would an ancient preboomer game like TF2 be worth fixing?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dark Souls is playable and primarily a singleplayer game, stop drooling

  115. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is there an annual #SaveTF2 movement if the game is healthier than ever and thriving?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      New tf2hud idea, just swap the play casual button and the server browser and call it the #goodboyfixtf2 hud.
      Pic related.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am genuinely surprised this isn't a thing, but then again it'd require SaveTF2 players to actually give a shit about doing something and playing on community servers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It would unironically solve the "VALVE MATCHMAKING IS THE EASIEST WAY TO PLAY" cope tf2 players keep spouting. Btw, if you even want to have a decent time playing tf2 you have to mess with the console so you can get 90 fov.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >typing one command too hard
            DSP Levels of brainrot if you cant do that

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If I'm a new player, I wouldn't know I have to type in commands into the console just so the game will run smoother/be more visually clear. But yeah it's not that hard once you know.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And yet, opening the server browser being hard is the foundation of arguments that TF2 players have, even though you don't even need to know the command for that like in L4D2

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It would unironically solve the "VALVE MATCHMAKING IS THE EASIEST WAY TO PLAY" cope tf2 players keep spouting. Btw, if you even want to have a decent time playing tf2 you have to mess with the console so you can get 90 fov.

          >typing one command too hard
          DSP Levels of brainrot if you cant do that

          hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a player mod will fix da gaem *shits my pants*

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how DARE you don't fix daddy Valve's game for them!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Huh the devs don't care about us, and will just let the game rot. I guess I'll try to get more people into community servers
            >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, THAT'S BAD VALVE HAS TO CHANGE MY DIAPERS FOR ME.
            Do tf2 players really?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they haven't ruined the weapons/classes tf2bers are complaining about that week and given them a million dollar competitive scene (nobody actually wants to watch that)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where'd you get it in your head the game is healthier than ever and thriving

  116. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't really care for TF2. steam, overall, is the only good thing left in video games. i would include GOG, but
    >WHERE THE FRICK ARE THE REST OF THE GAMES??

  117. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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