VAMPIRE THE MASQUERADE - BLOODLINES 2

They have been really silent since the last gameplay demo's reception... any chances it gets cancelled again?

Also VTMB thread I guess.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it could be good

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know, I am so starved for a new vampire game that I might even force myself to ignore everything that will be wrong with it.

      New NPCs seem a bit interesting though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These character quotes are all varying degrees of awful.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all of those quotes have some kind of tonal 180. They don't tell me anything about the character because there's nothing narrative related and yet the impression I get is all the same? Aren't those things supposed to differentiate them?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hope these aren't real quotes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is how hey win. morons like this have no standards and stand for nothing. Instead maintaining and grow strong principles , NPCs like this homosexual will still consoom the slop

        >b but I'm going to pirate

        Yes and you will spend your most valuable resource, your time, on propaganda slop. have a nice day immediately

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based. I love vampkino but I'm not going to waste my time with VTMB2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mediocre at best

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rik Schaffer's not even involded, I have no idea why any fan of the original would be interested

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no one from the original involved
      >Chinese Room
      fricking how?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weapon's grade hopium.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Famous last words from a Nagasaki resident wondering why that plane didn't drop a billion bombs like usual.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they're still dragging this bag of shit around

      lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it could be.
      but it won't.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did Chinese Room ever make a good vidya?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker has been saying that for 7 years. let it go lil bro

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't count on it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No way they already invested too much time and money for them to cancel it now but they should had when the first version got canned

      frick no it's nothing like first game they put in that shit dialogue wheel and the main character looks horrible and the story isn't looking too good

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >any chances it gets cancelled again?
    paradox won't let it get cancelled, they spent money on this IP and they WILL bounce it around a dozen no name studios until one of them shits out a shart.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It won't be cancelled but it will fly under the radar, it will be a mediocre experience.
    Bloodlines is a cursed IP

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      THE CURSE OF CAINE.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That would suck, no pun intended, to be an old person vampire.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Late night coffee bar
      I'd get bit by a vampire for that shit to come back. Used to exist a couple around NYC, but covid licked em. Shame. I dig nighttime coffee.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to play as the gay, black muslim vampire and lead a jihad against Europe!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry buddy, no RP options for you, premade protag, you play Phyre (pronounced Fire) an ancient vampire, who just awoke in modern times, who might be Non-Binary with intentional they/them pronouns or the devs might be too cheap/lazy to make multiple body types and voice lines for the player character and instead have chosen to stick the player with a unisex avatar.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Judging by the UI shown we won't be able to use guns or melee weapons... there is no Equipment tab.

    JUST...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no firearms because Dan does not like firearms

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has The Chinese Room ever made a game with combat?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no firearms because Dan does not like firearms

      Iirc the guy designing the game/combat thinks an inmortal superhuman creature using munweapons is stupid and lame.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mundane* weapons, no idea what happened there

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        would be a fair position if not for the masquerade angle.
        being able to kill like the humans do instead of leaving evidence of a man running around that can pull someone's spine out of their body one handed would be ideal.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not even the shills are interested in defending this game.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should’ve cancelled the game.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So which dev could actually do the game justice? I cant think of any.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Making a sequel to VTMB in the first place is conceit. Not to jerk it off too much but it really captures a cultural moment in a way that games are too afraid to do now. It was just in touch, and 20 years later they can't recapture that lightning.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Making a sequel to VTMB in the first place is conceit. Not to jerk it off too much but it really captures a cultural moment in a way that games are too afraid to do now. It was just in touch, and 20 years later they can't recapture that lightning.

      noone and i have to agree - the only reason they are even calling it vtm BLOODLINES is to ride the coattails of the first game - they could have named it anything and set it in the universe, but no, why bloodlines 2? because they know the game would be dead on arrival otherwise. there's acfually a lot of other games in the WOD universe but they are all pretty cheaply made (text based) or flops (the werewolf one comes to mind, for example)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      7-years-ago arkane for the gameplay
      writing wise i can't think of any studio

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CD Projekt Red... given they have enough time to polish it.

      I kind miss HardsuitLabs version now that the current one seems worse.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I miss diarrhea now that I have constipation

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >given they have enough time to polish it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      none

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A group of dudes who are fans of the original, no pronouns in their bio and that still have their penises.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That is what I'm doing, its bloodlines adjacent.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How gay is it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            extremely, I don't like romance in video games, so I'm thinking about giving trophy wives/husbands, harem shit, for those who want that sort of thing.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >pic

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Me in the back

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Warhorse or CDPR if they still retained some of the designers of C77, (yeah the game sucked compared to what they advertised at first, but its streets ahead of other studios)
      Eidos if they werent stuck in publisher limbo

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >CDPR
        If you want a pretentious moviegame, maybe. It would unironcally be the same as TCR version in spirit but more competent in execution.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah which is why Warhorse was my first option

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >or CDPR if they still retained some of the designers of C77
        that game's problems were entirely because directors didn't do shit except waste time, it'd just be another step of development hell

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, and now that almost everyone there who knew how to use their inhouse engine quit, CDPR got forced to switch to Unreal since they now have a giant batch of fresh trainees that only know Unreal
          Think of how fricked their next games will be
          CDPR is joever

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >streets ahead
        Better than streets behind I guess

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically, what existing studios could do a decent job with VTMB? I feel like Teyon could at the very least capture the proper atmosphere.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most major issue of the game is that the Bloodlines ethos isn't even really well-understood. Because Bloodlines isn't well-regarded because of VtM. Bloodlines is well-regarded despite the lead anchor that is the World Of Darkness. The quirky characters and the brevity of the writing are what make Bloodlines worth a damn. The most serious characters that resemble the archetypes you'd find in the tabletop have the piss taken out of them. Things are just over the top enough to make it entertaining. If the subject matter were taken seriously, you'd end up buried beneath broody nihilistic horse crap.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To boil this down, the fun of Bloodlines isn't the fun of an authentic gothic RPG experience. The fun of Bloodlines is that of a pyromaniac realizing they can buy a striker box of 300 matches for $1.25 at the local Dollar Tree. The pyromaniac just happens to be wearing black.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Half the fun in VTMB is that it ran on the amazing Source engine which at the time was an incredible experience.
      Imagine if it had been some point and click crap like the first. It would be another barely remembered thing thing like Temple of Elemental Evil or whatever.

      So unless they're making it in the Alyx engine exclusively for VR it's probably not gonna hit the same.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Getting cancelled would be the best scenario at this point.
    They put a literal radio buddy in your head that always talks to you and tells you what to do and what to think. Oh, and ofc he's a minority.
    Unless you can shut him up and very early in the game, it will ruin everything. Social addict idiots, I swear.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please let it be cancelled for good

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Disastrous writing making it unbearably cringe, that even they're too embarassed to show it probably.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No Nosferartu
    >homosexual devs

    Pass

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thread is dead already
    PLEASE NOOO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT VAMPIRES AAAAAAAAAA

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ehh... I should have started the thread with VTMB and not the cursed sequel.

      My bad anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Make one tomorrow. And use a lust-provoking image in the OP.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone here remembers the giga hype machine years back about that new "tender" website? That was about matchmaking for ghouls and embracing?

      had a huge pier in the background and people were so giddy with anticipation

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mate, this is a huge pile of woke garbage. Honestly, I dont care if they cancel it, I would rather give it another run to Bloodlines, and I must have finished that game 6/7 times by now lols.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is mommy still in, and is she still hot? That's all I want to know

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope its cancelled
    If this shit game releases it will kill any chance of a actual good sequel for good

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the kind of game one plays 5 times and still discovers new stuff

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I found out that you can see this scripted event as early as the first time you leave your apartment in Santa Monica. There's a chance for a brunette hooker to stop outside the front of the med clinic and a red-jacket male civilian to walk in front of her. If it triggers right, the guy will stop in front of her for a few seconds like they're negotiating a price, then they'll walk into the nearby alley where he'll lean against a brick wall while she starts ducking his dick.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Colour me amazed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Soul

          Yeah, I only found that one out by watching a let's play and noticed the hooker and the guy enter the back alley while the player was doing something else. Decided to investigate in-game and got it to reliably trigger. I'll post a recording of it later.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Soul

          Here's a capture of how I got it.

          It was actually the grey-jacket civilian guy, not the red one. His pathway can sometimes got locked on something, but casting trance on him usually puts him back on the right track.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And here's another showing what happens if you put the guy in a trance right before the hooker gives him a blowjob and drain her dry.

            The guy wakes up with his dick still hanging out and a freshly dead prostitute at his feet and starts running in fear.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the kind of game one plays 5 times and still discovers new stuff

        Soul

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope everyone involved in yet another rape of this IP gets castrated

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    VTM should never have progressed past the early 2000's. The grungy gothic vibe they had was perfect.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no roleplaying
    >detective mode
    >press x to awesome
    >awareness prompt during combat
    >Alfred is in your ear all the time giving you lore dumps and telling you what you're supposed to think
    >made by the Chinese Room, a studio which has never made anything else besides glorified walking simulators

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >press x to awesome
      >walking simulator
      i don't mind these
      not like vtmb's gameplay was what made it good
      i pretty much always just snuck around and stealthily executed enemies

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem isn't only combat, anon. They won't be able to make decent stealth or level design either.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean "silent"? They've been releasing a dev blog every two weeks for the last few months.

    Anyway, we'll hopefully get a proper gameplay breakdown that doesn't consist of three rooms where don't do much this month.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Skimmed over the thread before bedtime, thanks for the new pics

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still nothing about the release date, huh?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Q4 2024 is the confirmed window. But no date yet.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >any chances it gets cancelled again?
    You could only hope.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm about to start the first game, does anyone have any tips? I'm gonna play with the unoffical patch.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toreador is most noob friendly since you rarely lose humanity (at least without trying.)
      Guns suck in early game. Prioritize melee/unarmed until you get something nicer than a revolver.
      Don't give Jeanette the pendant no matter what.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't play Malkavian or Nosferatu for your first time, they have very different playstyles compared to the other races.
      Finance is a dump stat and Inspection is incredible for QoL even if it can technically be ignored.
      You can regain masquerade points so don't panic if you lose one or two.
      To go to other areas as a non-Nosferatu (once you need to), talk to the taxi driver. I don't know if the game tells you this but if it did, I missed it and it's a core mechanic of the damn game.
      Try and avoid save-scumming too much, take your L's.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When you go into the sewers to look for the nosferatu in Hollywood, take a good gun or 2 and ammo. If you pick Ventrue then also bring blood bags and know that you can actually leave the sewers to feed or whatever and then come back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't open it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1. Don't listen to the people telling you to avoid Malkavian or Nosferatu on your first playthrough. They're the dumbest people that ever played Bloodlines.

      2. While initially you get get most stuff and finish most quests via talking/hacking/sneaking, the latter part of the game requires you to have at least some combat capacity. Remember that when leveling up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can kind of get the Malkavian one, but Nosferatu is 1000% overstated, you can literally walk around on the surface as long as you don't get near anyone that trips your masquerade violation radar

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the very definition of sunk cost fallacy

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sooo did they ever reveal why was the Hardsuit version cancelled? It didn't look any worse than this.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >any chances it gets cancelled again?
    Now that would be funny

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Developed by The Chinese Room
    I'm not even saying this to sound like a bitter jaded c**t, its guaranteed going to be shit

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