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AYOOO FRODO, PASZ THAT RANG MEN!
*Clicks teeth*
Lil homie got stuck with morgul shiv. He leakin
DAS RIGHT
>Are you sure this will help us sell more cards?
>doesn't flip in the gandalf the white
one job notc
>they made him izzet....
That's gonna be a yikes from me
Ok I'll bite, how is Gandalf red at all? The character always struck me as the quintessential mono blue mage.
They already made a [Wizard] the [Color] in UVB and wanted to expand upon it.
Cause he fricking blazes dude, the hobbits lead got him on the moon cuz
The best reason I can give you is that is has the elven ring of fire Narya.
I would have made Gandalf blue/white, his entire job is to help the men of the west and oppose Sauron.
Wouldn't Blue/White make more sense? He was send specifically to help the Men of Middle-Earth to win against Sauron.
they want that for when he becomes Gandalf the White.
Gandalf the White should be Boros imo. He's more of a battle commander at the end, inspiring his allies with his presence and with the power of his elven ring.
It'd be kind of impossible to make Gandalf not Blue. He's so intrinsically 'a wizard' that to make him not associated with the colour known for magic just doesn't really work.
Yeah, but Gandalf isn't really a spellcasting type wizard like they're known in pop culture now. Gandalf the Gray is more of a historian, which does make him blue. When he returns as Gandalf the White, he isn't really like that anymore.
It's more a matter of association. People associate Gandalf with wizards. He's up there with Merlin as 'THE wizard'. Whether or not he's different from the standard wizard doesn't really matter as much as the general cultural idea of Gandalf as a wizard.
Arguably, the thing that sets gandalf apart from the other wizards is that he cares about people too much.
Grey-> colorless
White duh
white and colorless are two different things
Blue represents a more hermitic studied form of magecraft which does not really fit Gandalf.
As others have said he's essentially an angel sent by god rather than a acedemic mage.
Trying to fit things into MtG colours is usually fricky but I'd put him as Red/White.
>Okay, I am going to address the elephant in the room: Gandalf the Grey is blue-red! I imagine it’s tricky to design a card for a notable character with a color in their name, as well as to make art that then still has to show all those colors. Could you tell me a bit about why he is blue-red and how it affected his look?
>Aaron Forsythe, Vice President of Game Design: It is true that certain color words in characters’ names can complicate design decisions just because those words have such powerful associations in Magic. But thankfully, “grey” is not one such word! There are actually several versions of Gandalf in the set (including Gandalf the White, whose color identity will not surprise you), and we show him at different points throughout the story by making him different colors. Gandalf the Grey is the quintessential fantasy wizard, so it made sense for his card design to be blue-red as those are the colors that do the most “wizardy” things in-game. As for how that color choice influenced his art, we did ask for his sword, Glamdring, to have bluish energy, and the setting of Moria lends a red glow to everything. Aaron Miller did a great job infusing those colors into the piece while leaving his costuming the traditional grey that is so iconic for Gandalf.
Just fyi, Izzet (red + blue) is the color combination in MTG for wizards and spellslingers, not mono blue.
Holy shit they're moronic. Gandalf is iconic, but he's not a spellslinger. His magic is divine and he's sent not just as a literal guide, but as a moral guide, which his philosophy is extremely community focused. Gandalf is Blue White or Mono White.
Hell, even green fits better than fricking red, and green doesn't really fit him at all
I agree anon. Green is a really tradition focused color but I think him being removed from the natural order being a deliberate part of his character keeps him out of Green. But he is explicitly part of the divine order as well as a faithful believer in the divine plan. This dude is so explicitly white it's a travesty that they went with "hurr durr, wizards Blue Red" despite not even understanding that there are significant differences between blBlue, Red, and White wizards in their own fricking universe.
The funny thing is that Saruman would make sense as white/blue as well.
I dont think its funny
Well frick you then
Nah, you're entitled to your opinion
aye anon. chances are theyll make Saruman a black card
I think he has to have Black. Treachery, heartless pragmatism, sycophancy, even manages to become an archenemy of nature which is part of Black's wheelhouse. I'd absolutely go Blue Black, he's even essentially a mad scientist.
lmao i bet you morons think radagast should be green because he lives in a forest
No, he should be green because he represents nature and natural growth, and has a connection to tropes traditionally found in green.
>he represents nature
>he has a connection to tropes found in green
Like I said, because he lives in a forest. You are so moronic you even fool yourself
homie are you even reading? They chose Blue Red because he is hurr durr Wizard. This is literal hurr durr lives in a forest tier reasoning.
Didn't they say a while back that they consider mechanics over color identity for most cards? So he is red because red effects fit the mechanics they thought would fit him. They wanted him to have these spellslinger sort of effects, and that's in U/R's wheel house. You can't just give U/G an U/R card or something because the color fits the character
You can give U/G whatever the frick you want since that’s what edh homosexuals play, and balance doesn’t fricking working in a meme format like commander.
you can remove the useless 3 damage mode and make him whatever the frick secondary color you want
>Didn't they say a while back that they consider mechanics over color identity for most cards?
Except mechanically Gandalf's card is fricking abysmal. 5 mana do nothing three times then frick up your next draw step and cost you 5 mana. So card is so bad it's actually unreal.
>what the frick I have to cast something and untap with it?
Trying to power down the game a bit is a good thing. God fricking forbid something doesn't immediately generate value on entering.
You cannot power down Magic because pre-existing cards don't magically stop existing. The water in the pot only gets hotter.
Damn, if only they had tools to address exactly this, so new cards actually saw play instead of there being an evergreen meta that rarely gets shaken up.
Standard is dead and not coming back because WotC refuses to print cards with less than 5 lines of text on them.
Works on my Arena.
It used to really annoy me when people at my LGS said "card is trash, does nothing on ETB" with their neckbeard smug smile.
Now I play EDH and have fun again with shitty decks.
Fireworks?
>I am a servant of the secret fire, wielder of the flame of Anor...
Ok I'll bite, how is Aragorn black at all?
why not Simic? frick I really want to play a commandee Gandalf but I only play Simic
>commander
>simic
Don’t you have overwatch threads to erp in?
kys simic is the most fun faction
>do thing, draw card, look at hand until you finish dilating, play land, play card that draws card and plays land, complain about your parents on reddit, play x spell, sigh really loudly and ask to take back your turn because you tapped the wrong lands for your x spell
Go frick yourself, frick your mom too.
Izzet, really? Flavor fail.
Hideous fricking painting. What's with the sword? I loathe this gay anime aesthetic. Bring back the old tsr style art, let the green haired losers that infiltrated nerd culture seethe eternally.
>Izzet
More like Gandalf the Gay, am i right
Didn't Gandalf himself say that if he took the Ring he'd basically become an overbearing law enforcer? How does that not explicitly translate to UW?
Because they want UW for gandalf the white.
>Put gandalf on top of its owner's library
The top effect doesn't reset per turn, so you get 3 spells with him then he bounces to top of deck? That seems terrible, but I guess he's commander bait were you won't get to keep him on the board for 4 turns anyways.
Bouncing to hand would be much better.
He might just be the worst UR Commander ever printed. He does nothing then fricks you up.
>Cast this
>Lightning bolt
>Copy which triggers again
>3 damage
>9 damage off of 1 red
This card was never play tested
you dont cast copies, moron.
unless it specifically says cast, i mean
Copy places a copy of the spell directly on the stack without casting, unless the card says "You may cast the copy", usually "without paying its mana cost"
Bold implication you're Gandalf in Modern or Legacy doesn't immediately get hit with a counterspell, MH2 elemental, or any plethora of kill spell.
speak
admit you were wrong, moron
Nay. I figured a copy would count as a cast especially with a new target. Me being wrong on that instance doesn't change much when you look at something other than lightning bolt like storm or cascade interactions. It's just now maybe two red mana for 12 damage (two lightning bolts) instead of 9 for 1.
Card has very little balance thought put into it. Me being wrong on the specifics doesn't make me wrong in spirit of the argument
>in response I evoke Solitude to exile Gandalf
>in response I evoke Fury to deal 4 to Gandalf
>in response I cast unholy heat with delirium
>in response I cast terminate
>in response to gandalf being cast I cast counterspell
>in response to gandalf being cast I cast force of will
>in response to I cast swords to plowshares
>lol what gandalf, I thoughtseized that shit turns ago
>lol what 5 drop creature, the game was over 2 turns ago when I caved your skull in with hammertime
I'm not falling for "dies to removal". I'm ESPECIALLY not falling for it in an izzet spell deck when I'll just counter spell whatever you're pretending to cast and get buffed for it
It's a 5 drop creature that can only be played in modern and legacy. You are not going to cast let alone untap with that.
you actually fricking suck at this game and only play super casually
this creature sucks, that gandalf card is borderline unplayable even casually
nevre leave the kitchen table, bud
Relax net decker. Card is busted. Shit being more busted doesn't change that
imagine thinking you are playing the game "the right way" when you are one of two people left playing the rancid piece of shit that is modern nowadays lmao.
standards powerlevel allows this type of card to be good
pioneer mayhave room for this too
its literally made for commander so itll be fine there
can maybe be used in cedh, doubling a tutor to fetch thoracle consultation may work
shit like displacer kitten and minsc have a place in legacy, its fun to ponder if this will too
but you are so stuck playing mh2 tribal that your brain has turned into mush. have fun facing cascade or murkide for the 5 billionth time c**t
never said I was playing 'the right way', i was saying that if you think this card is busted you literally dont understand the powerlevel the game is at.
this card also isnt standard or pioneer legal, you genuine fat moron
>can maybe be used in cedh, doubling a tutor to fetch thoracle consultation may work
you arent casting this card when someone already did the thing youre saying cheaper on turn 2
>have fun facing cascade or murktide for the 5 billionth time
I'm the rhinos player you boogeyman
cry about it, Black person
I will cast violent outburst and trigger cascade in response to your homosexual value grizzly bear or serum visions or whatever youre doing and you cant say shit about it
then I'm going to untap and cast a blood moon and turn off your shocks and tron lands
>Nay, I [cope and moronation]
you dont play this game at anything other than a 'palys fnm thrice a year' level
you are a fricking idiot
this card is dogshit, you dont know how the game works, and youre a homosexual gay homosexual
I assure you I'm not good. That has zero to do with my arguments especially when some izzet spell decks pop up and get wins now and again to this day.
It's just not as consistent as most other decks
literally what deck wants to play this card?
a 150$ budget 'blue red spellcasts' commander deck?
it's unplayable in legacy, modern, vintage or cedh
this card fricking sucks
you literally said it's 2 mana for 12 damage, implying you could copy bolt twice. you cant, the card doesnt let you do that without flickering it inbetween
That would be 2 mana for 12 damage
Lightning bolt 3
Copy 3
Lightning bolt 3
Deal 3 damage 3.
Two red mana
I could see him working in storm. Also commander.
ok, i will admit I blatantly forgot the deal 3 damage ability, i was tunnel visioned on arguing about the copy trigger
card still sucks
>I could see him working in storm. Also commander.
I can't
Izzet decks right now are casting 6/6 fliers for UU
Hell there's a standard deck casting ward lizard.
It's fine man. I don't play ultra bullshit so seeing a busted card and going "this is busted" then being told "no because <other busted cards>" annoys me. He may never see high end play but that doesn't mean the card is unthought out bullshit which is all I was ever arguing.
It's just a clash of perspectives here. Ultimately I think we agree.
I will agree to disagree anon, because I could never look at this card and think it's unthought out bullshit busted, it just seems like a janky slow fair commander guy to me
card is kind of generically good and narrowly so, I couldnt look at arcanis the omnipotent and say he's busted just because he's leagues above other legends from his same cycle.
I wont call you a reatrd like the other anon who is baiting me and I keep responding to, becaus you seem a respectable guy rather than a turd sniffer, but gandalf just seems a generically good card that doesnt do anything that gamebreaking
hell, I wouldnt even run him over Keranos for the same cost
It's all good brother. I only sat out a few sets and the power creep seems unreal. cEDH is a fricking mistake too. That format getting turn three wins is so fricking wrong and it burns my soul.
I think that's what I'm really railing against. Move this card back maybe 5 years and people will flipp. Now it's just "playable". Shits fricked man
Whatever man. It's kinda stupid, more stupid of my incorrect ruling was on but still not weak. Again I think this is a forest through the trees thing. No one will slot him over a murktide but man he's strong and it's crazy that it's useless
I agree I fricking hate CEDH
competitive is for 60 card formats, edh is what I take a break from modern/legacy to dick around and play dinosaur tribal with my buds
It's not anywhere close to deserving the word "busted" unless you play exclusively kitchen table with draft chaff.
>It's just now maybe two red mana for 12 damage (two lightning bolts) instead of 9 for 1.
you cant even pick the copy ability on gandalf twice, it literally says on the card pick one that hsnt been picked, youre meant to do the other 3 first before hiding him on top of deck to re-cast and do it again
youre talking about a game you literally dont understand, you are a genuine idiot. low iq. slow of thought. unfit for society.
I'm not picking the copy twice moron. I'm picking copy and 3 damage in two lightning bolts
Like I get you have a low opinion of me but give me the base amount of credit Jesus Christ
Not anon but I didn't even see that it's "choose one that hasn't been chosen", without a "this turn", I thought that one was just there to fade removal while you cast something else. Christ that's even worse than I thought.
I enjoyed the Magic games on PS3. Is there a modern version of them?
>This abandonware website has roms of all thes 90s MtG games
I feel like playing some old-school pre-troony the Pozzering. Which one would you recommend?
Shandalar is still pretty sweet even if the UI sucks dick.
>Shandalar
Does that include Battlemage and Duel of the Planeswalkers?
Shandalar is alpha and beta basically, I seem to remember it having a handful of cards that are unique to it. It's a roguelike game where you run around in an open-world kind of deal collecting cards by beating enemies and clearing quests/dungeons and shit. It's actually pretty well put together for how old it is.
Aight, thanks for the input, anon.
Playing draft at my LGS and realizing that the Phyrexia Draft Experience is Red and Green or bust.
post more like these
Nah white is really strong too. You want red/green oil or white/green toxic. Red/white equipment can be good but requires that almost no one be taking the things you need for it or that you get one of the strong rares/mythics for it. Black /white toxic can also do well but isn't as good as green/white. Black/blue is kind of similar to red/white but worse than red/white even if you get it going. In general the real issue is how weak blue is and how unfocused the red/black archetype is.
I'm sick of all of them, they all powercreep into anti-fun expensive decks
>indestructible
>whole point of the story was going on a quest to destroy it
How do you frick up this bad?
They will probably print a sorcery or whatever based on the volcano that removes its indestructible keyword and destroys it. After all, the rings is indestructible by all other means.
The whole reason they have to go to Mt. Doom is because it can't be destroyed any other way. Cards that remove indestructible exist, and I can pretty much promise there will be a card specifically for that.
You could also just exile it.
I highly doubt anybody is carrying around Mt.Doom in their pocket. For all intents and purposes, it is indestructible.
>I highly doubt anybody is carrying around Mt.Doom in their pocket
The game has you carrying around fricktons of forests, plains, mountains, etc. though. A mount doom or two doesn't sound implausible.
Tbf there was literally only one way to destroy it. It was quite literally indestructible by natural means.
Yeah, and the story is that ONLY the fires of mount doom could destroy it. If it was destructible, then I could destroy it with mundane fricking artifact removal. The point is to make it so THE ONE FRICKING RING isn't just annihilated by a vandalblast
Dragonfire could also melt it but they were all extinxt lol
Gandalf told Frodo that not even Ancalagon the Black's fire could have destroyed the ring.
Oops
You can still exile or sacrifice it. There are uncountable ways to get rid of indestructible permanents.
They'll almost certainly have a card called "Cast Into Mount Doom" or something that removes indestructible or just exiles.
Im so fricking glad I quit this shitass game
not even edh, the format meant to get around wotc's greed and powercreep could avoid being fricking ran into the dirt. Doesnt help that mtg players and /tg/gays in general have no spine and will spend massive amounts of money on garbage they hate
Don't hate the game, I just hate certain aspects of it. What makes everyone hate the game now is WotC fast printing everything with no regards to quality of the cards or budget in mind. Their response to this was literally "Only engage in products that are relevant to you" like the hobgoblins that they are. No shit don't buy everything, that's the most obvious thing to do even before.
>Don't hate the game, I just hate certain aspects of it
I used to think this until I realized I hate the average mtg player and they deserve to have their wallets raped by wotc powercreep and memberberries
I'm genuinely impressed that WotC and Hasbro manages to out-israelite Konami. Short-printing is bullshit business strat, but it's a frickton more understandable than this "print everything, frick QC lmao" tactic.
This was the turning point for that sentiment honestly. I remember people gettin' mad at the concept of Lottery Cards (Kaladesh Masterpieces, Amonkhet Invocations, etc) and God Packs (15 mythics in a single pack) but frick man, I'd go back to that era if it means the end of all the bullshit product they put out. Get rid of everything except Draft, Bundles, and Pre-Release Packs.
could have just sold vintage cube as proxies for the price of a booster box
did this instead
LMAO
Do my knowledge hazabro has yet to make a slot machine like Konami has so I don't think they did it just yet
>Packs aren't slot machines
I mean they are but Konami having actual slot machines make them more israeli
if you want to be pedantic about whether randomized packs are slot machines then pachinko isn't a slot machine either
WotC does short printing too.
>Spend all these years making fun of MtG
>Kinda still do, plus I despise how pozzed it is
>Friends abandon all other card games and only play EDH now
>End up playing EDH because I like spending time with them
I feel like a fricking hypocrite. At least it's all jank kitchen table shit and we proxy just about everything.
enjoy it while it lasts anon. Edh has been on a downward spiral for a long time and its only accelerating. I hope for your sake the people you play with have actual taste and behave like actual adult males with their wallets
>I hope for your sake the people you play with have actual taste and behave like actual adult males with their wallets
I already said we proxy just about everything. If a card is above 1€, that's automatically a proxy. We only buy the super cheap shit and maybe a Precon deck from time to time.
There's only one homosexual known to us that goes full consoomer and always MUST bring his CEDH deck everywhere, but we barely play with him.
Once you start playing games for fun and stop having politics rule you every day life things become much easier anon. Americans have a hard time accepting this truth.
>just close your eyes to everything bro!!
>hmmm yummy slop!!!
have a nice day
>WotC is now printing crossover 'REMEMBER TOLKIEN?' MtG cards
Fricking given up, that's what they've done.
I have grown to really fricking despise crossover shit. It's become such a cynical marketing gimmick now. It cheapens IP's since it basically just feels like a company saying "lmao here you go you fricking losers you don't care about consistency you'll eat up any popular nerd brand we throw at you".
oh cmon anon you can accept magic and wizards but you cant accept gandalf, the walking dead, stranger things, a subaru baja, and warhammer 40k? How about you just let people enjoy things?
Ok I know you feel emotional and all but think about it. Sauron in Fortnite. It's perfect.
While I do agree with you, WotC has been cheapening their IP without even having to resort to crossovershit.
I dunno about you, but I cannot take seriously a story that once was about your typical fantasy stuff (not to say it was bad, far from it) and then introduces shit like picrel.
At this point I don't even care I about Optimus prime.
The cards of always had Black people and I literally never noticed his wait until your autistic ass pointed it out. You didn’t even point out something iThe cards of always had Black people, and I literally never noticed his wait until your autistic ass pointed it out. You didn’t even point out something insane, like the secret lair bear country. I am glad you are too socially moronic to go to the locals to play.
>The cards of always had Black people and I literally never noticed his wait until your autistic ass pointed it out
this is the quality of english shills that wotc pays for
that's not a paid shill, anon
I feel like MTG just annihilates LE WOKE BROKE memes.
>I am assured by /misc/ that MTG will die because they have black people on cards and such
>this was in 2017
>fast forward to 2023
>Product makes more money than it ever has before
Get woke, go make a lot of cash
>stock down 15%
>pallets of mtg cards being found in landfills
>whoring out their ip to anyone willing to advert- I mean collab with them
>production at an all time high yet every other tcg sells out while mtg product rots on the shelves
>players leaving in droves
>avg deck price in the thousands for most formats
>hasbro making them pump out even more product in a desperate attempt to regain lost ground from last year
the Black folk on cards didnt kill them but they sure as shit arent doing ok
All because they went woke bro
its because MTG is a very popular brand that's 30 years old.
people don't care about the woke shit so long as they can play the card game with friends at their local store once a week.
>people don't care about the woke shit so long as they can play the card game with friends at their local store once a week.
my LGS went from hosting regular 200 man FNMs and nearing 800 people normally showing up to pre-releases, to less than 20 people showing up because one of the guys who runs the shop trooned out and a bunch his new troon groomer friends started showing up to tournaments and being insufferably woke.
I'm sure the same thing would happen if the homie became a skinhead instead. People want to play games not deal with politics.
>People want to play games not deal with politics.
so they do in fact care about the woke shit is what you're saying.
weird it doesn't reflect in sales
the only thing keeping mtg alive is arena, as it's where everyone fled to once lefties wokehomosexualed up all the in-person events. even that was lagging until covid hit and gave it a resurgence in 2020, which is back to lagging again after covid authoritarianism started being revoked and people started leaving their houses again.
Can you give an example of an event with leftists?
Chasing out the best artist mtg has had in recent memory.
there are MULTIPLE artists MTG had that got blacklisted by Wizards of the Coast for basically nothing.
How so? I never goto events since I don't have a car currently.
Look up foreverial tied up burchett and Terese Neilson
I dunno, sales ain't looking hot, since whole pallets are turning up in landfills.
The whole woke shit is a manifestation of the much broader lack of Quality Control on the products.
Normals may not care for politics, but that goes the other way too: there's a time and place for this shit, and muh card game is neither.
They care when someone irl is telling them they're a degenerate or transphobic for playing a game.
this is very common, 6 years ago, nothing, 5 years ago, the Troons trickled in.
one of the best players in the world is from my state and went to my store many times, and now.. he's a she.
At least middle earth is a decent idea for a crossover. I have no idea why they did those warhammer cards, completely different tone and style to the rest of magic.
Especially when GW has an IP that matches modern mtg aesthetically and could use the advertisement
I have no idea why they didn't use Age of Sigmar
Muh whfb secondaries constantly trying to shit in the well. Not this games fault gw is run by morons.
If anything we at least got a Secret Lair, and you know what? This one was decent if only because Archaeon replaced a nigress.
Archie is a c**ty Black person so I don’t know if I’d say replaced
This is how they should do crossover cards. The "real" card exists but if I want to use an alternative art version for a different feel I can. The godzilla cards were good but shit the walking dead cards are shit.
Just remake the cards with custom arts, anon. That's how I got rid of some of the Black folk.
Say whatever you want about picrel, I'm just glad I don't have to stare at some Black person wearing a glass bikini with anthro ears.
What does this have to do with age of sigmar?
>Take card you like
>Take Sigmar character/art you like
>Replace art of card with Sigma art
Come on, anon, it's not so difficult. What I posted was just an example.
I guess if you're gay you might prefer the Black person, but I can't really speak for those.
idk whats worse. Shitty anime coombait alters or Black folk
no you made it worse
nta but nothing is worse than a Black person
shitty anime art is on par with fat Black folk could you gays atleast steal some decent yugioh art or something?
>yugioh art
>decent
OH NO NO NO NO
You just don't understand the intricate Visas Starfrost lore to appreciate Light-Heart.
You're right MtGgay, I should've replaced it with an obese Black person instead. I understand you guys love that.
Black person aside, the concept of the armor as well as the background evokes the idea of an "Esper Sentinel" more than generic anime breasts on the right.
I personally don't mind Esper Sentinel. I really don't see how he's woke
>I really don't see how he's woke
I never said he was, I just said I didn't like him because he looks weird.
>see black guy in any context whatsoever
>sperg the frick out
Imagine being this cucked. How do you people function in the real world?
My problem is with the armor, homosexual.
Oh, MtGgays actually like skimpy male armor.
Nevermind then, it was my bad for thinking you weren't gay.
>My problem is with defining characteristic of Esper, the best part
Anitrannies are worse that niggest Black folk
Esper Sentinel art is already good, moronic homosexual.
>that cringe ass art
>that fricking disgusting font
have a nice day NOW.
>getting rid of the etherium body
As expected of a weeaboo. It's one of the defining traits of Esper.
They had already done TD and ST. At that point the floodgates were open to any IP.
Hell, I'd even say 40K fits more than those two since at least some Tyrannids and Demons kinda look like could belong to a plane or something, but there's really no way in hell shit like picrell could ever pass.
I always thought that according to the lore, our universe exists in Magic's multiverse, but because magic doesn't exist in our universe it's sealed off form the rest of the multiverse so stuff like this and the Walking Dead crossover doesn't even make any sense according to Magic's own lore.
Universe beyond aren’t considered in the lore.
that's how they can have Minsc be a planeswalker, because Universes Beyond doesn't think about lore.
I hate /tg/ so much its unreal
idgaf about mtg, I just want a complete, high res image archive of their card arts
Man, I'm so glad I stopped caring about this game after Return to Ravnica
I wish I was playing Digimon, frick Bandai.
I'm confused, if just having blacks on card art makes the company woke wouldn't that mean it was always woke/leftist?
I'll take you seriously and give you a real answer.
MTG and most card games and tabletop shit like DnD was always lefty.
the thing that changed, is waht Leftism is, it "progressed" and the companies have tried to keep up, and its progressed from being the underdog and a counter-culture, to being the dominate force bent on purity and radical progressive ideals.
it used to be progressive to have cards with the demonic entities and faeries tied up on them, that was "lefty" and against the puritanical right back when MTG started.
now being lefty today looks like this.
I can get the LGBT shit being called woke but anons are calling cards like Esper Sentinel woke.
Why are you using a venezuelan pearl diving forum filled with maladjusted, inbred morons as a reliable barometer for what's "woke" or not?
The Peruvian puff pepper farming website is down
it is sort of, but nothing blatant in the art.
there is a certain way lefties draw black people that you can feel the "woke" desire behind it
they'll never draw them as decript or evil or weak looking anymore, always chisled looking gay man black guy.
they USED to draw them like they'd draw anyone else (and the art was way better back then too) like Crovax here, who not only was drawn better and more complex, his character arc would never be allowed now.
>there is a certain way lefties draw black people that you can feel the "woke" desire behind it
they draw them like american hoodrat Black folk that have been pumped full of shitty west coast fashion design
With the way your describing it I can actually see it. It seems more like the problem is with the artists playing it safe rather than the characters themselves.
Honestly they play it safe in general. They'll have major story events and then have nothing actually happen in them except a token death of somebody they clearly ran out of ideas for (Gideon died because they had nothing else to do with him, for example), and when they DO suddenly make a lot of obviously bad changes, you know things are gonna get fixed. The current story stuff is literally 'too fricked up to not be solved'.
Esper Sentinel is completely fine you fricking autist. I bet if Island of Wak-Wak was released today you would sperg about it being "woke".
on a scale of 1-10 how woke is this?
That's a 1, you fricking moron. Our GODS in WotC only care about us, the players.
I'm trans if that matters.
Eh.
the problem is, they sure as frick aren't going to make a little 7 card release about how great it is to be Irish or British or White or Christian.
its always extolling the same little sect of people, gays, trans, and blacks, everyone else is dogshit.
I don't mind "lets celebrate MTG black characters" set, I mind that it never becomes anyone elses turn but the other 2 woke targets.
Probably because those two are still the most shitposted about outside the realm of the internet. You want your Paddy magic cards go back to bullying the Irish in real life.
no, they aren't, no one bullys or gives a frick about gay people in the West, Leftists just love extolling gays, trans, and blacks, and that's it.
they will never hop off that train and talk about something else, THAT is the part that is annoying to moderates, I'm sick of hearing about Trans and Black people on and on and on and on and on and on.
I don't hate them, I live in a large Black area, plenty of them are my friends, but I sure AS FRICK don't want to hear about how great they are from a bunch of rich, coastal Leftist white people who have never even so much as touched a black person in their entire lives.
that is the part that is increasingly rubbing people the wrong way.
>no one bullys or gives a frick about gay people in the West
Not what I saw up in Wisconsin.
your increasingly small anecdotes only proves to me how little it happens.
guess what, plenty of old white people getting targeted by black youths for the knock out game solely because they are white, does that mean something?
>your increasingly small anecdotes only proves to me how little it happens.
Irrelevant. Your claim was no one does it. I disproved that.
>does that mean something?
It would, were it not for whites being the majority. That's why I pointed out that if you wanted white shit start bullying the Irish in real life. You can't just marginalize the majority, because that's not how that works. You got to pick a subset of the majority and focus on that. Pick on them enough and woke clowns start doing shit to revere them.
>no one bullys or gives a frick about gay people in the West
This may be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Bravo! Bravo!
There's literally no place on earth that is more pro homosexuals and Black folk
>TN just made it so gays can have their marriage denied
lol
lmao
Also Canada, New Zealand are way more tolerable.
Since when is that not part of the west you moronic fricking homosexual
Very low, since this is a time limited edition and the characters on these cards are already black or inside the context.
I am not saying that there is no woke bullshit in the current magic, there is, but some of you think that any black on cards means it is woke.
Wasn't it confirmed that the artist who drew Black personorn actually has another art of Aragorn of his own but white. At this point I'm almost completely sure it's WotC pushing this and not the artist.
Of course it's pushed by WotC
Jesus Fricking Christ, and we got ourselves a whole thread of """people""" here defending shit like this.
/tg/ homosexuals arent people. They are the same as capeshit manchildren
Yes.
>there is a certain way lefties draw black people that you can feel the "woke" desire behind it
you mean you can discern the intent. speaking for myself ive never had a problem with black people in mtg pejor to the woke era.The problem arose when they only were there for the sake of their skin tone, which is called Tokenism.
>but anons are calling cards like Esper Sentinel woke
Look, moron, I'll say it again since you have trouble reading:
My problem with Esper Sentinel is how moronic the armor looks, not the Black person.
Yes, the coombait elf I used also looks stupid, but at least I'm OK with it. Isn't that the point of custom arts after all? To make something YOU might like?
esper sentinal's face is all fricked up. Dude look like he shat himself or thought about something embarrasing from a decade ago
That's also true.
Anon if it was just about the armor you wouldn't mention Esper sentinels race you said
>That's how I got rid of some of the Black folk.
>Say whatever you want about picrel, I'm just glad I don't have to stare at a Black person.
Then you mentioned his armor. Your main gripe is that he's black not his armor.
>>That's how I got rid of some of the Black folk.
>>Say whatever you want about picrel, I'm just glad I don't have to stare at a Black person.
Correlation with the fact that WotC draws them like shit. What can I say?
Anon here explains it quite well
It's almost like "woke" has no fixed definition and is use exclusively by maladjusted manchildren.
i can tell you this: the art the card gets is related to what the card actually does. there are designs that seem "pushed" and playable even if barely playtested. design is capable of prediicting that every angel deck wants a Righteous Valkyrie since its printing. Selecting those specific cards over any other to depict black people makes it so theres more representation in the game
I bet even gay people look at this card and call it homosexual
We do
>it used to be progressive to have cards with the demonic entities and faeries tied up on them, that was "lefty" and against the puritanical right back when MTG started.
ngl the final straw for me was unironically seeing that one of the cards removed from the ONE THOUSAND DOLAR SET OF SIXTY RANDOMIZED PROXIES was Earthbind. I fricking loved that card and was actually looking forward to tracking down a anniversary copy, but they just removed it from the fricking set.
This is real?
The gay cabal mana confluence gets me every time.
This isn't even that bad, I wish the gays hadn't ruined the damn rainbow forever though
I liked this art more than the original, but it would be better if it was only the 5 colors.
I cannot believe this shit is actually real...
It's a secret lair. They do lots of stupid shit for secret lairs
>Mana confluence
>create mana of any of the five colors
>six different colored figures on the art
I, unironically, want Heartbeat of Spring, /u/ is based.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS A FRICKING JOKE!!!!
GODDAMMIT, ILL MAKE SURE THIS GETS BANNED LIKE EARTHBIND AND CRUSADE!
Hold your breasts, some one them are cute.
/u/gleh homosexual's opinions don't matter
I was exactly thinking about the /u/ card...
brb posting this to twitter to get every pro here canceled.
Whatever floats your boat.
i like the magicka wizards in mana confluence
It's more about forced inclusion than just having Black folk. Nobody cared Teferi was one, but making Aragorn black, a character described as white in the books, understandably annoys people.
It's just a corpo vritue signaling, anon. Come on, even a kid sees that.
Anons called the game woke far before this shit anon. Again I can see something like a race change as woke but there are anons that think just having blacks on cards is woke.
Oh, I guess. I wasn't following the conversation since the beginning.
This was the only MTG product I wanted to buy after a decade of not buying a single card.
And they fricking pozzed more than the abomination that was RoP.
Frick WotC, they deserve the rope.
And /misc/ thinks it will sell bad as a result
lol
lmao
lmfao
rofl
They made sure it was modern legal to force comp gays to buy it.
>buying goyslop from a black rock israelite owned company
>buying anything
Literlalt every big company has bent their knees to ESG.
>be dyslexic
>spent a month or two trying to figure out why epic game store was this powerful
It's just the new /misc/ buzzword. Literally no one on Ganker was going on about ESG to this extent until it got mentioned in that one CDPR video.
the only good thing about /tt/ nerds and wotc fanboys is how easy they are to trigger by mentioning anything remotely anime-sounding or coomer-related
i hope you know how many people do it just to frick with you guys. you're literally like bpd girls, hair triggers every one.
You sound triggered.
I was in/edh/ the other day and they're actually starting to beg for anime arts since those Kamigaway and Jumpstart cards were the only decent looking art they've gotten in years.
Hell, WotC fore their best western artists and the MtG crowd applauds them.
/edhg/ had the greatest fall from grace on /tg/. Jesus christ that general fricking sucks now
You're right, but it also represents the stae of the mtg crowd quite well, specially when you consider edh is the most popular/played format out there.
I think WoTC realized people prefer the anime art at this point
The "Evil Wanderer" and "Mecha Ugin" are genuinely kino.
the Jap artists are way more in depth, dynamic and interesting.
that Nahiri art is way more dynamic than anything in the set otherwise.
It's more that the anime art was just different. MTG art has gotten really homogenised in recent years. There's still some artists here and there whose distinct styles peek through, but for the most part it's hard to tell at a glance who's drawn a piece, compared to the wider variety you used to get. On the one hand I get it, people like things to look broadly the same, but the sort of base appeal of cards, to me, is seeing so many different pieces of art in so many different styles.
Amano LIliana is certainly less detailed than a normal card art, but the painted look is way better than anything else in the set.
there's a reason this one is so sought after even now.
No, they just want GOOD art. It just so happens the nip artists put in actual fricking effort.
Commend me a fun online card game, fricking mtg is so shit right now I don't mind starting from cero.
singleplayer?
Slay the spire
Library of ruina
multiplayer?
lol there are no good online multiplayer card games
Cards against humanity.
Eternal TCG
>Eternal
Didn't that fricking die?
Digimon TCG
>Hispanic Ball TCG just got an online client
So that's it? We need to wait until our game dies to get the online version?
You can play it over TTS or OCTGN for the time being.
My main grip with those is that there's no singleplayer. I know I'm the minority here, but whenver I play EDOPro or Omgea it's always againts the CPU.
That might as well be completely unplayable.
It's insane to me that Yugioh, a game infamous for its walls of text, has had a fully automated free client for over a decade now.
Things is, for all the shit we like to throw at israelitenami they at least don't shoot down fanmade simulators like Bandaid does.
>That might as well be completely unplayable
You've never played these in real life?
>dealing with wieneratrice-tier jank is the same as playing in person
LOL
LMAO
I guess zoomers are too moronic to do anything by themselves, no wonder they beg for gacha online clients for anything.
YGOPro is a boomer program you drooling moron
what jank does wieneratrice have aside from not being able to do shit with the newer weird cards?
It looks like it was made by someone in their garage in their 90s, and runs like it too.
This is despite them having two full decades to do literally anything about either of those things.
And other card games, namely Yugioh, just having an objectively better, faster, and better-looking client all while also being fully automated.
are we talking about 3rd party clients here?
Talking about wieneratrice which was mentioned in all three previous posts in the reply chain.
Imagine someone presenting a game to you and it looks like THIS.
And you ask them if it's an alpha or if they whipped it up together or if it was their first project for college or something, only to learn that, no, it's simply looked like this for two full decades.
SOVL
this isn't a GAME though. the things you are comparing it to are full-on game systems. wieneratrice is a table for playing digital MTG
>Dad walks in
>glances at the top
>"playing that wiener game again son?"
>Leaves before I can answer
>"playing that wiener game again son?"
Yeah dad
Ah frick McCluck just dropped a Black Egg for 3 chicks of any color.
I very much prefer Xmage, everything is already automated.
yeah but it runs like complete shit
It is if you aren't moronic.
why did they make esper sentinal sub saharan black when alara (and esper) had more lighter skinned mediterranian/arab people on almost every plane? The skin tone alone clashes with the silver armor to the point of it being cartoony
Post your "ol' reliable" MTG card, Ganker.
You cheeky bastard. Bet you think you're real clever, don't you? Well guess what? You are.
Solitary confinement never fails to get me out of a bind.
>never fails to get me out of a bind.
ENTER
nothing personnel
>I never thought I'd spend my life fricking. I'm a baby maker, not a wiener destroyer.
what did she mean by this
No more loam or crucible for you
ENTER, a nuwotc design mistake
Black person
Nice cope, son.
its the definition of powercreep and FIRE design, with no reason not to include at least one in every green deck.
and you are a Black person
Yeah, and it gave me the W
Who gives a frick? It rotates in a couple of months anyways.
>playing dead formats
The only formats that are still alive in this god forsaken game don't rotate. Modern, Pioneer, EDH unfortunately
ENTER
This card is top cancer in my Sythis Harvest's Hand enchantment deck.
There are many, but here is one. I use it in my Tuvasa EDH and search for Avacyn, Angel of Hope, and Archetype of Endurance.
I overload winds of abandon, anon.
Go ahead and fetch your basics.
Yeah, there are many ways to remove them, but my main fear while playing Tuvasa is definitely Cyclonic Rift, all my counters are low cost specifically for non creature spells because of Cyclonic Rift and similar cards.
MtGO, started a few months ago and have been playing with my three friends. They all have years/decades of experience so I'm kinda lost a lot of the time. But its been fun, currently playing a format of the 3 Ravnica blocks.
>Hearthstone
Came back when Death Knight class was added, it's good fun for a while before a meta settles - I don't have too many resources to experiment so saving until next set releases alongside a rotation.
>MTG
Didn't like ONE draft at all and Explorer meta sounds stale so mainly playing Vintage over wieneratrice these days.
>town only plays modern
>really don't want to spend 400 dollars on a modern burn deck
>pretty much every budget deck looks real fricking bad
every deck in modern rn is moneypile.dek
It's not just right now, modern has literally never been affordable. I remember 10 years ago burn was still 400 dollars. Some lowered in price, Tron is 200 dollars cheaper to like 450 range, and Jund doesn't exist, but in their place other decks rose to match.
Haven't played magic since Khans, can't be bothered returning since my cards got rotated out.
Would love to play vintage Pokémon if there was a platform or community for it. Would love to play team rocket format again.
I really wish there were better options for card games on mobile. Shit like Marvel Snap is so rng based that it feels like you have no real control over 90% of the game, and Runeterra feels the need to be more concerned with story than anything else.
Try teppen.
I'd love to but apparently it won't work on my phone according to the play store
Emulate it I guess. It’s pretty fun, and it’s not hard to get a competitive deck.
Online card games, like other store based apps, will never be good because there is no drive for longevity. The developers dont control their own marketplace so their most logical economic drive is to seek to extract value from the existing audience of the playstore/etc.
Do anons remember Scrolls, the CCG made by Mojang? I've been working on a spiritual successor of sorts. Singleplayer, though. I think I wanna format it like the GBC Pokemon TCG where you collect cards as part of a campaign.
So I have a question.
How do you feel about AI-generated artwork in your games?
If you use AI generated stuff remember to add manual touches because sometimes the generated art can have some bad errors in them
Now that AI is a thing I hope we see a new rise on TCG.
>creating a TCG you can't make money off of
No
Nta, but I'd do it.
Build a core ruleset, use AI art, encourage other people to design cards. Create a criteria and community to decide which cards are officially legal. The goal is to create a fun and balanced game that's free to enjoy.
It'd just need a digital platform, and I know frick all about coding. But if you want ideas, there's plenty to be had. I'm sure someone will do something like that eventually.
This is basically what the old star wars card game is these days to my understanding.
Started playing Snap a bit, it's surprisingly fun and I never played a phone game before, very fast. It's a bit samey however with the speed you unlock cards and how quickly you can change your deck. Also using the app is a bit shit when trying to come up with new decks.
It gets really old really fast. Unlocks slow down to a near standstill eventually, and you can seriously frick yourself over by opening caches too early or buying cards without doing research on them.
I'm at level 284 now and I'm kinda bored so not sure if I'll continue
That's around the point where the slowdown starts. Around level...450 I think? the caches start appearing less often.
you can tell an anon is a /tg/ crossposter just based on the way they type.
>Esper Sentinel is "woke"
You people are fricking parodies lmao
>still no good pokemon card game that isn't p2w shit
>tfw the pokemon card game is better than the actual games themselves now
Been playing Teppen since release almost 3 years ago. Been enjoying the Apollo Justice set.
Any good black 3 drops?
This set? Only Blango and he is only somewhat playable in a Raging Demon list. Generally though the 3/2 Zombie is good as well as Blowfish and Too Much to Handle
Having a character be black isn't inherently woke. Intent matters, so a black wizard who is an original character isn't necessarily woke. Making Aragorn black, however, is extremely woke.
>SOVL / SOVLLESS
That's not the origginal counterspell, though. I honestly have never even seen that one, though it is good. The modern version is still better than the OG counterspell art. That shit is ass.
It's not about the art, although it is better, it's about everything. The fond, the card background, the flavor text, the colors.
font*
>ENTER
>Wotc
This was such a cashgrab, they didn't even playtest or double check the characters. One of the characters double wields crossbows when the crosbow rules state that you need a free hand to reload a crossbow
Shouldn't the burden counter be mandatory? Like I thought the entire thing with the ring was that you couldn't refuse using it and that it would destroy you
Yugioh is fun but I feel like it's a toxic relationship between players playing unbalanced decks without trap-based spell removal and special summon / spell spam and Konami changing the ban list to enable that due to complaints, worsening the issue.
You know, when I was in high school, I was a bit of a card game geek and one of my friends asked me if I wanted to learn Magic the Gathering stuff at the LGS on afternoon. I told him no. I explained that I was busy.
So I went home that afternoon and took one of those pipets from a kid's chemistry set my grandma gave me. I cut off the ends so that I had a thin, little tube. Then I sanded down one of the ends with a nail file to make it rounded. I fed it into my urethra and kind of moved it around a bit while I jacked off. Then I got a fire ant out of my sister's ant farm. I used a piece of paper to feed it into the end of the pipet tube and, given the circumference, it only had one way it could go. It crawled into my peehole through the tube and when it got to the end somewhere in the middle of my shaft it started nibbling on the inside of my urethra. It burned like hell, so I ripped out the tube but the ant didn't come out with it. The walls of my urethra crushed it. So I continued jacking off and when I came it was like passing a little, ant kidney stone.
Now, despite this whole ordeal, it was still a better life decision and use of my time than learning anything about Magic the Gathering.
Play Wixoss.
I don't understand moon runes
No worries.
Is it all bishoujo or is there something that won’t make my mom think I’m trans?
See that "LRIG" in the top left corner? Now spell it backwards, the card game is all about that.
Gonna be a miss from me, hope you have a fun community to play it with though.
I play oichi with the fill the board with dead units power.
>only trannies like girls
Don't worry, she already thinks you're gay.
I wish I was playing Digimon but bandai doesn't see the need to have a digital version of their card game about digital monsters that live in computers.
>Runeterra
I'm getting a bit sick of it but it's still pretty fun and has the best economy in the entire genre almost to it's own detriment. I wouldn't mind buying cosmetics becasue it's like the one game that made good on it's F2P promises but they are way to expensive for what you get.
>Snap
It completely doubles down on all the hearthstone bullshit, but because the matches are only 2 minutes it's impossible to take serious. I actually had a lot of fun with it until I got to the part where loot boxes replace your guaranteed card drops. Getting a shitty avatar or fricking title after dumping hundreds of credits upgrading cards is infuriating. Not to mention the insane power creep that's already happening with the later cards. Or doing shady shit like deliberately putting op cards on the season pass to let people rape the ladder only to nerf them the instant the pass is over so it's shit by the time you can earn it F2P
>Final Fantasy TCG at PAX East every year
>ignore it cause I don't play tcgs since pokemon
>it has cool original art tho
>get the TCG art book
">seller packs a foil card as a freebie
>well I can't have just one card
>buy a whole set of boosters
>realize I'll never play with anyone
>apparently designed by magic TCG vets and fun to play
Godammit
designed by magic TCG vets and fun to play
This has universally been a red flag for me.
I've yet to find a single game designed by former mtg players/staff that's even remotely good.
They all frick with lands and mana in some way which leads it to being worse than the original. Yeah nobody likes getting screwed or flooded but no alternative ever offered is better.
Duel Masters (ironically a WotC IP) solves it elegantly by just letting you play any card as a land of its color.
Other games like Yugioh just do not have a mana system and thrive from it.
Which is why those have been the top two best selling TCGs in the world for close to two decades now, while MTG and its myriad of apes haven't even been in the Top 5 since 1998.
>yugioh
>thrive from it
I heavily disagree but I don't have the time to go into another argument about why card games having no resources is a bad thing.
And your mentality is why every TCG the West shits out crashes and burns a year after release.
Jap TCGs come and go by the dozen too.
>Duel Masters
>the top two best selling TCGs in the world for close to two decades now
lol
It literally is, anon. They make more in sales from Japan alone than ALL of Hasbro (not just WotC) makes globally.
Duel Masters is dead as frick in the West, but the West is a fricking tiny, non-existent TCG market compared to Japan, China, and SEA.
force of will had a good alternative mana system, tbh.
>They all frick with lands and mana in some way which leads it to being worse than the original. Yeah nobody likes getting screwed or flooded but no alternative ever offered is better
Holy frick what a dishonest statement.
>no alternative ever offered is better.
There's tons of alternatives. The entire point of mana is to limit the number of actions a player can take in a single turn. If your little brain can't think of any other way to accomplish this other than forcing players to shove 24 bricks in their deck, then idk what to tell you.
I have nothing bad to say about FFTCG apart from that I can't find anyone IRL to play it with
There is one (1) store in my town that has regular players and I am this close to jumping on solely because I am sick of the lack of options here, MTG is 30 fricking years old and the creators are still completely out of touch with reality with their business choices
>creators
Anon wizards has Hasbro's hands up their asses so far even japan gets jealous they can't use it for their ugly bastard doujins.
Not defending one or the other, but this economic disaster MTG is going through is the publisher's fault, not the developers. Hell, some countries have been soft banned from playing MTG because a card can and will cost as much as 1/3 of a montly salary.
Where I'm from, a new booster box goes costs the exact same ammount as what I paid to paint my 2 story-house inside AND out, buy a couple lawn chairs and a new sofa kek.
How much is a NM Legion Akroma nowadays? This was by far my most wanted card when I was young and started playing magic, her power amazed me. I really liked all the legends from Legion and Onslaught, specially Akroma, Visara, Jareth, Phage, and Kahmal. If I had spare money I would want to buy all the nm foils legends of LGN and ONS.
Foil: $170~
Normal: $5
foil's up to $200 these days
I hope, so I can import it. In my third world, it is crazy expensive. NM Akroma foil English is 750 dollars, but I wanted it in Portuguese.
You could just accept getting a timeshifted version.
I know, but it is strictly for collection and emotional value. It needs to be from Legion.
The best card game of all time was the FMA one
Forge and Shandalar mods are the only MtG things worth playing
I miss the WWE card game.
Goddamn I wish Hex wasn't mismanaged. With how popular the StS type PvE content is it would have probably done really well had the content released.
What's your opinion regarding land destruction/denial? It seems to be taboo and shadow-banned on most tables.
its perfectly fine. you spended 8 mana, you deserve to mess the table
>you spended 8 mana
>red
>taboo and shadow-banned on most tables
>edh
Found your problem. edhgays are a bunch of crybabies.
I've no problem with it. One homosexual of our playgroup got so salty about a Ruination he literally threatened to ban me from coming anymore, we were playing at his place.
I really, really want this card to be viable.
brew pauper, anon. glory and wins await you there
It's annoying and only worth it for the troll aspect. It's completely useless on EDH (people will single you out and your deck won't be fast enough to stop 2.5 people shitting on you) and gets solved quickly by anyone with a sideboard.
It'll probably get you a ton of wins on Arena since FtO is the most played mode, but I'm not even sure you can build such a deck there,
>It's completely useless on EDH
It is really not, but you need to use it in a context where you keep the advantage, usually with mana stones, stax, board superiority, or group slug cards,
It's cancer.
Not because I'm against interaction, denial, and alternate vectors of attack.
But because Lands are already a completely fricked mechanic plagued with problems, and MTG's greatest weakpoint as a game system.
You are effectively taking the worst aspect of Magic and making it worse.
Land destruction is fine as long as you intend on winning next turn, at which point it is ostensibly the same as any other winning combo. The problem with land destruction mostly comes from when it draws the game out forever because the person who did it didn't actually have a plan.
Opinions on the One piece TCG, I keep seeing it around
For me, it's Dhalsim
>9 lines of text
>Multiple ability words
One big reason I don't play this game anymore is I just cannot be fricking bothered dealing with how many abilities everything has.
I'M TIRED OF EVERYTHING BEING FRICKING COMMANDER BAIT.
PRINT COMMANDER CARDS IN COMMANDER SETS AND FRICK OFF!
No.
Every other format is dead in the water because of this shit.
Fricking this.
Standard needs to be its own thing, stop overflowing the market with dozens of legends and commander cards in standard. It ruins both commander and standard.
Just make a good lore and reserve the legend subtype for cards that really deserves it. Stop making fricking nobodies legends just to fill a quota.
All other formats suck donkey dick
It's the biggest and most alive format, everything has been pseudo designed for commander for at least 3 years now. Standard is dead in the swamp. EDH players spend more on the game than modern players do
>LOTR
I sleep. Wake me for Doctor Who
Speaking of franchises sacrificed at the altar of the woke.
>presented the idea of the Doctor Regenning as a fat mexican dude in the mid 60's
It was always woke
Getting ready to transfer my Pokemon Trading Card Game Online account to Pokemon Trading Card Game Live. The meta seems dull as frick but I'm having some fun fricking around with Lunatone/Solrock.
QRD on the difference between the two?
I hate how sterilized every CCG is now a days and had heard the pokemon one still allowed you to talk to random people and stuff.
Online had a trading system, which was obviously a good and bad thing. You might have to trade 100+ packs to build the BDIF, but for-fun decks were dirt cheap. Live is moving to a hearthstone-like dust system, which will normalize card prices for better and for worse, except you can break down cards until you have a full playset of them, which is fricking terrible. The only other notable difference right now is that Live is only Standard format right now and is going to add Expanded later. Everything from before Black and White isn't transferring, unfortunately.
>except you can break down cards until you have a full playset of them
meant can't break them down
New card, what do you think?
It's shit.
>card centered around blocking
>rakdos colors
What would you suggest, BW?
he's a pretty shit ninja in the game, too
>What would you suggest, BW?
Sekiro - UBR
3/1
Flash, Haste
When ~ enters the battlefield or attacks, choose up to one -
-Counter target creature spell.
-Tap target creature.
-Destroy target tapped creature.
>Ninja
>doesn't have Ninjitsu ability
Pretty shit ninja.
boring piece of shit of a card. good job op
>Ninja without Ninjutsu
>-0/-1 counters which haven't been a thing in forever
>black/red
Sekirogays in charge of doing literally anything correctly
Should be dimir, and should move a -1/-1 counter from any target to target attacking creature on block.
Second ability should just be persist.
Too weak at 2 toughness for a character meant to block, it will idea at anything. It should be 2/3 or 2/4. Maybe increase its cost to 4 cmc and make him 3/4
>Focuses on blocking but is only a 3/2, meaning it'll die to any 2+ power creature
>no first strike
>no vigilance meaning you'll never attack with it
>in order to regenerate it, you have to shrink other creatures you control
>if an opponent casts a kill spell on it, you have to regenerate which taps it meaning you can't get your sick -0/-1 counter
At most it's a mild inconvenience that trades with an x/4. Nothing about it is R.
It's very cool, Bateman. But that's nothing.
This
. If you want this mechanic, it should be orzhov, so you can add vigilance and/or first strike (maybe increasing his cmc). The only "red" thing about this card is that his power is higher than his toughness, but this goes against his defensive nature. By trading red for white, you can make a card with toughness higher than the power within the flavor. The attack can be higher in white, but, in this case, you should use first strike.
I forgot to say, but, if he is a ninja he "needs" to have ninjitsu.
>cant flicker it
>have to cast
At least the devs arent full retarrd
New cards. What do you think?
where teh FRICK is matter reshaper
Accurately sums up Modern when these cards came out.
>oath is full of some of the most underpowered garbage that has ever been printed
>except the 2 mana 4/4 that rips a card on ETB
what the actual frick were they thinking with Thought-Knot Seer? Reality Smasher too but mainly Thought-Knot Seer.
>he doesn't remember green ponder
trash compared to Emracool, the Aeons Hip
I don't know if I've ever seen a card game fall from grace so hard. If someone went full kyoani and burned down WotC/Hasbro HQ I wouldn't shed a tear
This would be good wuith pic related, cast it, activate it at least once, then proliferate, then draw a bunch of cards, and then remove some burden with it's activated ability.
I cant upload pictures with this IP
https://scryfall.com/card/one/71/tekuthal-inquiry-dominus
>out of everything you could possibly make The One Ring do it....draws a card
HOLY POGGERS THIS IS GOING STRAIGHT INTO MY GAY homosexual DICK SUCKING VAMPIRE TRIBAL HEXPROOF TRIBAL DECK
It's a good card even if the effects are boring.
I don't understand the point of crossovers if you are gonna make most cards safe and boring. I'd rather the ring do something unique and interesting instead of shill to commandergays until the end of time, by just printing "duhh draw card on it". Just seems boring and lazy. If they do a Star Wars crossover and they make Darth Vader a effective-cost beater that has "ETB draw a card" and nothing else, it just seems like a massive moronic waste
>I don't understand the point of crossovers
YOU LIKE LORD OF THE RINGS, ANON?
BUY IT BECAUSE IT'S FAMILIAR
say what you want but i like comfy low power level generically good/value cards like this
I got a sudden urge to "play" the Phyrexia set, but none of my friends are into the game and if I go to my local LGS it will probably end up like the last time I got the urge to play MTG, go to a draft night, build a dysfunctional White/Black deck, win maybe one round on a fluke, lose everything else, then go home.
I am thinking of buying the prerelease kit, opening up the packs, building a would be deck and throw it into the drawer, and I think I would have as much fun if I tried playing the game
But thats just dumb.
Part of me wants to like MTG, but it seems that its not in a good place and if you don't have friends who are into it, it is very hard to relax and enjoy playing it.
/blog
Could just play on Arena. The economy isn't the worst.
Yea, but I kind of want the tactile feel of the actual cards in hand.
I get that playing it online would make it easier to play in real life.
Maybe I just want to open packs, which is a dangerous thing to indulge.
Sealed was fun, I was at War of the Spark prerelease, but I just did not jam with any of the people there.
I can feel none of my friends would be particularly interested either.
I am sure this urge will pass, and then maybe suddenly reappear in 3-5 years again
If you have the money just go and play the game gay. If you're a halfway decent human being, making friends on your lgs is easy and fun, especially in casual modes like draft. Buy a couple, play some and go back to frick your wife. GG
>if you don't have friends who are into it
Yeah. I'd just recommend draft or maybe for you, sealed. Also I just wouldn't take shit very seriously especially limited. It's a card game, there's a lot of variance. Just play the rounds and shoot the shit.
Although it would massively help if you had even a few friends you could just do sealed with and dick around
My Mexican downstairs neighbors are whooping their kid again
>The mlp card that makes all players win the game through the power of friendship
It's a silver border card. It's not meant to be serious
Uninstalled master duel a couple of days ago after playing for a year, meta went full cancer and im sure my account gort flagged as leecher for not paying a dime so the shuffler started to rig my hands harder than on average.
Since it doesnt look like Bamco is going to release a digimon simulator anytime soon i was thinking on getting back to Teppen, originally burned out and dropped around the first BoF set.
>Doesn't lose you the game at X counters
>No way for opponents to try and take it from you
>Not even an equipment so you can put it on frodo or sauron himself
Holy shit, how do you frick up this badly?
't lose you the game at X counters
It loses you the game eventually because you do not have infinite life.
In lore, the ring corrupts people/races at different speeds, so something dynamic like life burn is more flavorful than just a hard loss.
You're correct about your other points, though.
>It loses you the game eventually because you do not have infinite life.
Uhh, I do though? It seems much worse than Phyrexian Arena for what it's worth though, maybe if it had flash I'd think about it.
>Uhh, I do though?
Platinum Angel would also stop you from losing to an effect that just said "You lose the game", anon. Any argument you make for dying to damage also counts for game loss effects.
>It seems much worse than Phyrexian Arena for what it's worth though, maybe if it had flash I'd think about it.
Arena does nothing the turn it comes out, only nets you one card a turn, and has two black pips.
The Ring is colorless, draws immediately, and on your next turn when Arena is drawing you one (1) card, Ring is drawing you two. And then three, then four, etc.
That's before addressing all the other fluff on it. Protection is a neat icing on the cake.
I shoulda posted this one like I originally intended.
>Ring is drawing you two. And then three, then four, etc.
I missed this part, that does increase the appeal. You're doing a good job selling it to me thanks, the protection from everything is of course useful I just wish I could get it exactly when I know I need it, some foresight and possibly some targeted discard could make it easier to foresee the optimal time to play it though.
>literally any shatter effect
All my artifacts are always hexproof, no exception.
>*overloads my vandablast*
oh no
anyways
>vandablast
They also always have indestructible 😉
or literally just playing a null rod or KGC, colorless cards literally any deck can play
>null rod
Wouldn't that do nothing to a pact weapon if it's equipped already? Does it stop shit from being equipped even?
i kill the creature it is equipped to and you cant re-equip it to anything
you also can't activate the ring
>i kill the creature it is equipped to
No, that creature is indestructible and hexproof
*whoosh*
The one thing I really fear, thankfully I almost never see it, GG.
Cyclonic Rift is much much worse. It is instant, bypasses indestructibility, only affects opponents, and gets all kinds of permanents. They use it at the end of the opponent's turn, then tap for victory against a clean board state. It is basically a win button if it is not countered.
Damn that would be painful as well, I usually end up with negative health so it's just an instant win against the deck I've been talking about. The 1U version could frick me too if I haven't gotten everything hexproof yet.
>I usually end up with negative health
I say usually, but it's more like always, the wincon is this moronic shit lol.
I have this card, but I honestly think it should be banned. It is way too powerful at instant speed. It resets the game right before your turn, does not affect you and it is blue, so you already have a lot of other control tools.
Similar cards in black or white are way more expensive, are not instant, or only affect creatures. The only way to avoid this card is by counter or phasing out your permanents (Teferi's protection), if you don't have blue or white, there is almost no way to avoid it.
They should unironically print more stack interaction in other colors.
I do not understand why blue gets a monopoly on it, it'd be like if only black could destroy things.
So exiling graveyards is a white effect, but exiling planeswalkers is a black effect? What's with those mana costs?
Black is the planeswalker hate color yeah.
More black boardwipes should hit planeswalkers, but wizards hates printing planeswalker interaction if they don't have to.
also most planeswalker-specific hate tends to be black or red/black, yeah. dreadbore type effects
black/white is usually more indiscriminately destroying/exiling permanents regardless of type, like vindicate/utter end/anguished unmaking/despark etc
it's just generically white/orzhov alligned mass exile effects, 'wrath but bigger'
there is no hidden flavor
plus the orzhov card is from litearlly 10 years ago when walkers were still newer and their place as a permanent was a little more intimidating rather than so baked into the game it is now
>exiling graveyards is a white effect, but exiling planeswalkers is a black effect
Yes. That's been the case for a long time. See Rest in Peace and Elderspell
the absolute state of mtg power creep
>AAA Black personMAN SAVE ME
First
>literally any shatter effect
Second, if you cast phyrexian arena T3, on T5 you'll have drawn 2 cards. If you cast the ring on T4, on T5 you'll have drawn 3 cards.
Not to mention how much more versatile tap effects are, and artifact synergy in general.
It's easier to cheese out Ring than Arena.
this card is unplayable outside of chain veil/nykthos-type combos that go infinite
If you mean Teferi, it was just an example off the top of my head.
If you mean Ring, then yeah, but so is Arena.
I agree that it should have a mechanic to lend the ring to the other players somehow. Not exactly like Karona, but something similar with some kind of trigger.
Other players should be able to "steal" it from you, like if they do enough damage to you or something. Basically if you play it you should become the archenemy (and its power should be scaled to match).
Frick off with your gay edh bullshit.
Do you even know what formats this card is legal in you moron? Nobody is playing this in modern, vintage, or legacy.
Its blatant commander bait.
>Do you even know what formats this card is legal in you moron?
Do you, frickstain?
>modern, vintage, or legacy.
Imagine being so stupid that you don't understand basic English. Nobody is playing a 4 mana do nothing in a world of MH2 cards, and are definitely not fricking playing it in legacy or vintage.
So? It's legal in modern and eternal, that's why making it an "archenemy" card is fricking stupid and so are you moron! Stop with this blatant edh shit everywhere and then b***hing and moaning that it's not enough.
Your logic doesn't even make any sense. You want it weaker so it wont see play in formats it wasn't going to see play in anyways?
You're being intentionally dishonest acting like this whole set wasn't designed for EDH, when you and I both know it was.
>Basically if you play it you should become the archenemy
Fricking this. I can't believe how much they failed in the flavor of this set. Even the art was underwhelming for what it could be.
The art is the worst part.
They are clearly aping peter jackson when possible, but then do shit like make Aragorn black.
>>No way for opponents to try and take it from you
Why is the flavor text on magic cards some of the cringiest shit imaginable?
Because its written by unpaid interns.
written by people who think marvel quips are the height of humour
Since this set is comming to Arena and available through historic
>missing the point this hard
If you need another card for the one ring to actually have its full flavor, you have fricked up on designing the card. It's like saying legolas doesn't need to be an elf because pic related exists.
I've been learning Battle Spirits Saga so I can coach a friend with it. Not bad, makes sense seeing as the non-reebot Japanese version's been going really long now. Not sure if I'll actually buy any cards though.
I am no longer responding to your blatant bait, I apologize for getting out of line and falling for it in the first place
Here are some generically good izzet spellslinger commanders that are all better than Gandalf for reference
I still agree to disagree but 'this card isnt busted because other cards are better than it' is kinda the whole point of whether a card is busted or not
something cant be broken if its just blatantly not very powerful
maybe in a format that restricts other better cards, sure.
He'd work hysterically well with veyran
agree but no reason youd slot gandalf as your commander over him, hes just a "if I can cast this late game I can get some value" card in the Veyran deck at best
it would be pretty cute to cast your mystical tutor and copy it, bolt your opponents, and give your guy +2/+2
I don't play commander since I've got no friends that play magic but wouldn't he be decent slotted into a USA deck? If you can flicker him consistently to keep triggering his abilities I imagine he'd frick. Are there any good USA color commanders that he'd fit well with?
https://edhrec.com/commanders/urw
honestly looking at even the top like, 18 american commanders, I don't see any he'd have any particular special synergy with. the gandalf card is just too generically good without exceeding at anything
he could be a good generic value in any of the spell-based commanders' decks, but not a linchpin in any sort of strategy that isn't massively convoluted
>I don't see any he'd have any particular special synergy with
A shame, the idea of flickering him over and over with spells to just spam the 3 damage pings amuses me.
>but not a linchpin in any sort of strategy that isn't massively convoluted
Well massively convoluted strats are my favorite, thanks for humoring my inquires m8.
John Howe is still alive and working. HIRE HIM.
oh and heres a wizard synergy card to put next to Veyran and Gandalf too
>Trading cards
Genuinely subhuman.
How would YOU design The One Ring, then?
What's the right way to do it?
mechanicallyits just monarch but with a new name like chosen one or ringbearer
simple as
Indestructible
Equip able
Equipped creature can't be blocked
Sacrifice equipped creature in an amount of turns dependent on it's type with midges having the longest staying power.
Add some shit about winning/losing the game perhaps.
Actually, maybe an activated ability to phase out would be more fitting than unblockable.
Protection from everything but cards named "mount doom" for starters.
Equip X, equipped creature has shadow.
X = number of burden counters, whenever equipped creature attacks draw cards equal to the number of burden counters.
Last part needs to be some way to pass it around the table, like "any player can activate this equip effect" or just whoever kills the equipped creature gains control of the one ring.