>villain is bad because...he's an ESL
Bravo Kojima
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Based, applies to Ganker as well
WORDS THAT KILL
seems like this game is a contentious topic lmao
Some people can't just accept that TPP is dogshit.
fair enough peeps
It's a flawed masterpiece
It's a masterpiece
I wish I could be half as based as Otacon
I wish the 90s was a place I could move into or something
>Huey is an irredeemable shitpile homosexual
>his son is an absolutely based pussy slaying weeb
Otacon fell far from the tree in the best way possible.
>cucked his own father to death
the balls on that man
that's what she said
Its funny how people went from seeing Otacon's past being from creepy/depressing to thinking it is now based because of Huey in MGSV.
War has changed
>verification not required
Otacon had sex with this.
Otacon also fricked his mother, god what a fricking chad of a character.
His sister wanted the Otawiener too
His stepmother. Unfortunately his actual mom died
not that much of an accomplishment, isn't Naomi a poo?
>isn't Naomi a poo?
No? Where did you get this idea from?
She was born in South Africa. Basically Pokimaine.
She was a Rhodesian, aka Brit.
she's a shitskin and not even attractive
>she's a shitskin
No
In MGS1 when she reveals her true intentions to Snake near the end she says that there were a lot of indian workers in Rhodesia and she explicitly says that she thinks that's where she got her skin colour from (though she also says that she doesn't know anything about her ancestry for sure)
Yeah, we'll probably never know. Just going by her appearance, she doesn't look very Indian, but could be half and half.
TPP is the most fun I've ever had in an open world game
for sure, if you play MGS for the stealth and not for the "story" its incredible. Game so good I played 30hours+ before realizing I had beat the game. (once again who the frick plays this for the story)
The morons who think mgs2 has deep lore.
>(once again who the frick plays this for the story)
MGS1, MGS2, MGS3, MGS4 were all about the stories. Why do people like you think that it's so CRAZY to think that MGSV would have also been about the story?
>No I don't want to watch all these great movies and read all these classic books I'd rather play watered down versions of them with le quirky japanese writing translated by a israelite and peepee poopoo humor
The interactive medium makes MGS superior
Don't frick with me
It was meant to be the last game in the entire MGS saga and it was meant to answer a bunch of questions that people have had for like 20 years. Instead Kojima and Konami went full moron to the point that they released a completely unfinished game that answered nothing and just opened up like 50 more questions.
And now the MGS saga might never get finished in a "right" way, and this unfinished mess is what will be the ending.
4 will always be the definitive ending for the series
Even if V was better written it would still be another unnecessary prequel
Peace Walker is the real MGS4
GOTP has fanfiction tier shitty excuse for a story filled with fanservice pandering without substance. Also not to mention horrible gears of war tier gameplay.
>Peace Walker is the real MGS4
I'm glad some people get it
>another unnecessary prequel
It was meant to answer the whole story about Big Boss and his downfall, and how he became what he became.
Except PW already did that, V actually adds to the story instead of giving unnecessery answers to rhetorical questions you absolute autists
>V actually adds to the story
What exactly does it add?
A new perspective to Big Boss's character, or rather the legend.
Even though everything was taken from ghost babel kek
ghost babel had really nice art for how limited it was
Something we never needed to see
Not everything needs to be directly shown and explained, it's better to leave some things as legends instead of ruining characters and convoluting the lore
>Something we never needed to see
MGS V was advertised as "THE MISSING LINK IN THE SAGA" that was meant to explain those specific things though, and that's why most people bought it.
I'm saying V never should have existed in the first place
You can say that about every game in the series, none of it really adds anything of worth because there is no worth in a series with story integrity on par with 70s Bond flicks
1, 2, and 4 tell a mostly continuous story with some retcons here and there
It's when Kojima started worshipping Big Boss and gave him four prequels that things started getting messed up
Metal Gear 2 ends perfectly and didn't need a sequel
cope
I don't really care the Solid games are infinitely superior
If you mean Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, it did have closure. MGS2 didn't.
Yes, I did mean MG2, MGS2 has an open ending with too much subtlety for someone who thinks 4 was "needed" understand
>I'm saying V never should have existed in the first place
Sure, I guess I can agree on that if I set my personal beliefs. But Kojima + Konami thought that it needed to exist to explain <insert 50 things here> and it just ended up not really explaining any of them.
You got your missing link it just didn't live up to your headcanon
No. The missing link would have been if we knew what turned Big Boss into Big Boss. Instead, we just got a game where Big Boss fricks off and we play as Venom the entire time.
>what turned Big Boss into Big Boss
this
>the first metal gear before the first metal gear
Madnar would be mad
Mk. II was better, he can talk!
You sound like a Marvel fan that can't read between the lines and needs to see BB kill kids to know he's a bad guy
Big Boss' treatment of Venom and Miller was a much more interesting way of showing him as a villain, I appreciate the restraint and subtlety instead of more shitty fanservice
>I appreciate the restraint and subtlety instead of more shitty fanservice
MGS V only got made in the first place because Kojima + Konami wanted to finish off the story by answering questions that fans had for like 20 years. And it was advertised as such, too. There wasn't any "restraint", it was just them failing to actually answer things because it ended up unfinished.
Questions that fans were moronic to ask in the first place, MGS fans are never satisfied
>I NEED TO SEE BIG BOSS KILL KIDS AND MEET GREY FOX AND BUILD OUTER HEAVEN AND FIGHT SOLID SNAKE AT THE END!
Sounds boring and predictable
>Questions that fans were moronic to ask in the first place, MGS fans are never satisfied
Sure, that's completely valid.
>Sounds boring and predictable
If they had put that into the 2nd half of MGS V then it would have been a pretty cool game, that would have probably gotten tons of praise.
>that would have probably gotten tons of praise.
why ruin a competent game to pander to morons? oh yeah, because you are one and want to be pandered towards
>And it was advertised as such, too.
Yeah and MGS2 was about Solid Snake touring the world and stopping war mechs lol
Why are you guys so angry, and why are you defending Kojima? Surely you must admit that he fricked up with MGSV. Whether or not the game should have been made in the first place is an entirely different discussion. The matter of the fact is that MGSV got made and didn't do what it was created to do.
I'd say it accomplished its objective of being a fun game
Sure, it's a fun game. But it didn't explain anything, like Kojima wanted it to do.
Why exactly did you join a MGSV thread, if it wasn't to defend Kojima? You active came in here because you knew people would talk bad about the game, and then you could get into arguments about it.
Calling you homosexuals moronic isn't the same thing as defending Kojima. Then again you're so moronic that you're tagging people talking to someone talking about "why" the game was made.
Because he was shitting out all these pointless MG2 rehashes throughout 2000s, and when he actually makes something nuanced and interesting for once you call it bad because it doesn't taste like shit. Anyway here's a Paz booty.
Are you stupid? MGSV is like the third game advertised as the moment Big Boss falls. Portable Ops answered it, then fans went "BUT WHAT HAPPENED?!" THen Kojima said fine, made PO not canon, and made Peace Walker. Then fans went "BUT WHAT HAPPENED?!!"
Metal Gear fans are fricking morons that kept getting an answer then ignored it. They couldn't accept MGS3s ending, couldn't accept PO, couldn't accept Peace Walker, can't accept Ground Zeroes, can't accept TPP.
Konami just exploited you gays being utter morons because you're a market willing to spend money in your own stupidity.
Ok listen
MGS but you play as gray fox and infiltrate outer heaven and get assfricked in prison. right? MGS6 come on konami
Boss' treatment of Venom and Miller? He didn't do anything to them. everything that happened to them was Zero's doing.
If you want to talk about shitty fanservice just look at the epilogue phone call.
There's no reason Miller would feel instantly betrayed by Big Boss, it's fanservice
The vow Miller and Ocelot make to help each boss and clone, fanservice, Miller does nothing to intervene in MG1
Frick off Black person. From what we saw in that red band trailer. There was much potential for mgs5 to be the perfect lead in into metal gear. What we got in peace walker was half enough to justify Big Boss becoming le warlord demon that we hear about throughout Solid. Snake eater sets up the foundation perfectly, but not seeing said war crimes and additional tragedy's like what we saw in ground zero was fricking bullshit. Phantom pain had the potential to be the best goddamn written and best played Mgs, but Kojima fricking hacked. It is a literal stain left behind in vidya history
"a e-girl tricked me into build in army in costa rica ocean and stole my OC metal Gear" Big Boss
Big Boss was never supposed to be a bad guy.
>The missing link would have been if we knew what turned Big Boss into Big Boss.
That’s literally MGS3, moron.
Hell, we got all the missing links.
>MGS3
How Big Boss got the "Big Boss" codename, the mission that made him a legend, and his desire to head out on his own with no loyalty to any country.
>Portable Ops
Only semi-canon, show Boss's developing experience in being a leader, and is a showcase of how Granin's prototypes for Metal Gears started spreading around the world.
>Peace Walker
Big Boss's merc team becomes a fully realized nation of soldiers, he gains the experience that would make him a powerful leader, his views on the world and the need for soldiers diverges from The Boss, he becomes pro-nuke (oh no he bad guy now), and Cypher/Patriots are beginning to make big moves.
>MGSV
Big Boss starts prepping for everything, the existence of Venom explains how "Big Boss" dies in MG1 and Big Boss dies in MG2.
The only thing "missing" is how Big Boss was Solid Snake's teacher. Easily explained, FoxHOUND was a legit unit working with the US before MG1, but by the time of MG2, the Patriots had their hooks in, so they got Big Boss and Miller out of the picture.
We already had 3 and PW. What the hell more do you want? A scene where they explicitly say “and now Big Boss turned bad” so brainlets like you can understand his arc?
Kojima and Konami felt that the "how did BiBo turn into BiBo" question was valid enough to warrant making an entire game about. You can b***h and moan all you want, but that is what they decided and advertised that MGSV was gonna be.
yeah i know. mgs4 was the end and this was a prequel. that never bodes well
As a MASSIVE Metal Gear fan it breaks my heart how much of a mess the overall series is, it's so much easier to pretend Snake Eater was the final game.
>it was meant to answer a bunch of questions that people have had for like 20 years
Well, that was the problem right there. It as meant to answer a bunch of questions that didn't need answering. Just like MGS4 answered a bunch of questions that didn't need answering. And, frankly, with how bad of a writer Kojima is, no one should have wanted him to try to answer those questions after MGS4 in the first place, because that is how we got The Boss' Legacy and nanomachines. Not every questions needs answered, particularly when the through line for a characters arc is obvious in the first place.
Nice revisionism
Where's the revisionism?
The game is literally responsible for most of the Kojima hateposting you’ll see on here, it was that much of a knife to the back
fans of the series got shellshocked because MSGV is an actual video game rather than the movies they were used to.
people who don't play MGS just enjoyed the actual video game and didn't care about the baggage
idk man, every one of these threads have people fighting over it
>Earlier MGS games weren't games because they had cutscenes
It's an incredibly mediocre experience with a terrible, barely-there story but has enough moments and potential to make you think what it could've been.
Because it filters morons.
Why are magyar so cygany?
>magyar
wut, how is hungary related to this thread?
Skullface is Hungarian
oh yeah he was. thanks
There is no game in history that has needed a Director's Cut more than MGSV
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Remember when people thought the Demon Edition would happen?
But the director already cut everything out of the game
weak
better
They did cut the director
He said he's satisfied with MGSV
PR statement, obviously.
The past few years have taught me that ESLs are indeed evil. From the subhumans browsing this site, to vidya, to damnable doujin translations.
do angloids count as ESL? I hate them anyway but that would justifiy it
Colonial subjects are not human.
I WAS BORN IN A SMALL VILLAGE
>caring about the story
>not just roaming around endlessly kidnaping people with 80s music the background
The only thing it lacks is proper coop missions like Peace Walker
Sounds about right
Can someone tell me what ESL means
English Second Language.
thanks
sounds believable
I still don't get why he went after Big Boss. I don't like that Naked Snake was only successful in Operation Joy Eater because Skull Face was in the background making sure the mission was a success. Naked Snake didn't win because he was a bad ass, but because Skull Face rigged all the fights and every bad thing that happened in MGS3.
Wait....why do you think or HOW do you think skully boy rigged the fights? He said he cleaned up after the fact
Skull face twist is worth it just to think of him climbing the ladder.
The dumbest part was him somehow getting The End's body after it fricking EXPLODED
That just means The End dying of old age is canon.
XOF is Black Chamber basically, but I doubt Kojima cultists played anything beyond Solids
Yeah he's not that good and Venom is another phantom of his, all planned to make this legend of Big Boss
>Black Chamber
you mean the guy from metal gear 2?
Guys from Ghost Babel, they were doing all the undercover work for Foxhound after the Outer Heaven thing tracked too much attention to them
And Viper is basically Skullface/Venom/Kaz as one character
Kojima is always accidentally based. Makes me wonder if it's an accident at all. Shits on the feds in mgs2. Is vehemently anti abortion in Death Stranding. Basically says foreigners are evil in mgs v. The literal peepeepoopoo guy ends up with the main female babe, cucking waifu gays
Nothing that autist does is an accident but someone should teach him about budget control.
I've seen pics of him in che guevara merch, so idk what his beliefs really are.
He's probably a liberal by Japanese standards. He likes to cozy up to Hollyisraelite celebs because he always wanted to work with movies. Regardless, Japanese liberal is probably white supremacist by western standards. Che was a total psychopath but he did have some based takes.
>Regardless, Japanese liberal is probably white supremacist by western standards
That's a good point. Liberal in Japan means something a bit different. I've seen a lot of Western liberals denounce Kojima for how he depicts women and war.
What's he trying to say with characters like Sunny or Paz? Are we reaching dangerous levels of Based?
I'm a big Metal Gear fan and I don't think we will ever get a Metal gear game ever again. MGSV Director's Cut will never happen. Mei Ling's and Paramedic's voices are in my head every day explaining mundane things. Mei Ling talking to me about Ice-9 and the morophogenic field. Paramedic talking to me about how many nerve endings there are in the clitoris and the history of oral sex.
I wish I had a Sunny tulpa gf to cook eggs with
>never gave up on Big Boss despite BB being in a coma for 9 years
>cared dearly about his comrades
>so smart he invented legs
>ultimately took his own life after years of depression from constant betrayal
Is there a more misunderstood character in vidya?
dearly about his comrades
~~*his*~~ comrades?
Don't let the smoke and mirrors deceive you. They knew who the real leader was.
Who would you rather follow?
>the man who invented the Metal Gear, the final weapon, a weapon so powerful that it left the leaders of the free world shaking in their boots
or
>the man who built some big dumb metal structure out at sea and invented Doritos
he was the only one who recognized Venom wasn't Big Boss.
ESLs are making the internet worse every single day.
Why was he so cringe?
>he finishes his stupid speech
>snake looks directly at the camera
/lick
What I don't get is, why give him the mask? Looked much cooler without it.
He just really loves the Lone Ranger
I don’t get why they made him Hungarian
Like his whole point was languages bro but he grew up in Hungarian majority Transylvania like who forced you to not use your native language, not the Romanians???
It would’ve made sense if he was a Romanian during Austria-Hungary, forced to learn two languages (German, Hungarian) on top of your own just to participate in society. Still wouldn’t make sense because no one would’ve forced him to not speak his language, it would’ve been completely moronic. Maybe a Hungarian in lower Slovakia yeah with the Magyar repression but definitely not Transylvania
I’m just nitpicking because it’s implied he killed Stalin because Stalin forced him to not speak his language but that’s fricking wrong or he couldn’t speak Magyar when he worked for the USSR then yea that makes sense you big fricking baby they’re Russians
>villain
He was the good guy. Big boss is supposed to be the villain.
Retconning him and XOF into MGS3 was moronic. Literally deviantart tier donutsteel writing.
KILL ALL KIKONGOS
Kaz pls
>WEEL MGS fans HATED TPP
I liked it, suck my dick.
I've forgotten more about MGS1/2/3 than you've ever learned, zoomlet
I played MGS1 to 3 and it felt like a complete trilogy. I looked into 4 and V and the plot looks like absolute dogshit so I'm glad I stopped, might pick up V for the gameplay though
It really is a complete trilogy.
Remember, 3 was initially hyped up as KOJIMA'S LAST METAL GEAR and it perfectly works as a finale.
>organization is bad because... uhhh...
I still don't understand what the whole deal with XOF was. I get they were FOX's cleanup team that went rogue when Skullface came around, but what were their objectives exactly? Were they allied with Cipher or not? The game says they are Cipher's strike force at one point, but it's never really made clear if XOF and Cipher are separate or not.
Why did Skullface even hate Big Boss? Conversely, why did Diamond Dogs hate XOF if it was Cipher who destroyed Mother Base?
Where did XOF get all their resources and soldiers from? Did Cipher attack Venom at the hospital or was it XOF?
Also, in the intro Shota Mantis and Volgin's corpse seem to be working on XOF orders, but apparently they were never under XOF's control at all? I didn't pick up on that one detail and I only found out later.
It's all confusing as frick. PW and 4 are the only MGS games I haven't played and I still felt lost as frick when playing V, it's the only MGS game where I truly didn't get what the plot was going for.
Just take me back, take me back to 2013 when Phantom Pain had that awesome debut trailer.
Almost every franchise I've loved has dealt me heartbreak after heartbreak starting in 2008, I can't handle that MGSV disappointed as well, it makes me feel like I've wasted my life.
have any modders made new maps or objective types or anything?
I like the gameplay, but there wasn't much variety.
Camp Omega was ported to MGSV and some custom sideops were made for it.
The ZETA framework just came out and is expanding the possibilities of modding, so new custom maps may finally start developing.
I like Kojima, but this is proof that he really is more of moron then a secret genius.
Kojima was ahead of the curve
Stefposters/Joostenposters, will you be picking up Stefanie’s debut album? It only cost €1 million to make!
>executive producer and songwriter: Giorgio Moroder
>guitar: Kenny Wayne Shepherd
>drums: Matt Sorum
what the FRICK
>soulstice
>wanted: dead
joosters we're eating good
Is Soulstice actually good?
nope its a janky hack slash were you try to kill OC not guts 4 times and the most cringe janky animations "inspired by berserk" plays like a phone game and your fricking greatswordaxe doesnt have any weight and impact
I will never stop being mad.
>we will never get the metal gear game where cipher declares war on big boss and a nuclear war begins
Use the word "latinx" and you will get dozens of seething ESL (Yous). I didn't realize how many were on Ganker until I started using it.
It's like the SJWs invented a slur. Truly a weapon to surpass metal gear.
Use it on /misc/ and you'll be flabbergasted to know how many angry latinx on there larp as white supremacist nazis kek
All American flags too
this game was mid af why do people like it so much, the story didn't even make sense
he was right about killing english , just needed to reinstate the latin as main language in the world and super based