>wait a sec you mean the my weapons I design for the military are used for warfare? Warfare kills people??? Nobody told me about this! No, noooooo what have I done? i thought bidepal tanks were used to shoot rainbows into the sky!
lol scientists are funny
Just like his Japanese animes.
Now I am become death, the stupid moron of worlds
By look alone the Metal Gear is literally a railgun coupled to a BIG ASS RADOME which mean it need to acquire target itself ASAP.
If we go a bit more realistic with railgun, the range would at most make it an artillery system who cannot be reached by anything but cruise missile... which it can intercept.
Reduce the size of the projectile and with proper rapid fire + accuracy, it would absolutely snipe missiles.
As a giant bipedal robot it could reach high-ground normally inaccessible to anti-air vehicle.
The less realistic bit is Metal Gear being able to reach intercontinental range with a railgun, who know if it's just not just the lies told to the DoF to get funding?
By itself the MG cannot hide, a non-propelled nuclear projectile is limited to ballistic trajectory, the heating of the projectile in the atmosphere would make it easy to calculate the projectile trajectory from any satellite with IR sensor.
>TL;DR
>Otacon was right to be surprised MG can be used for nuclear weapon.
>By itself the MG cannot hide, a non-propelled nuclear projectile is limited to ballistic trajectory, the heating of the projectile in the atmosphere would make it easy to calculate the projectile trajectory from any satellite with IR sensor.
yeah never really got this myself
i think they just forgot about satellite tracking or something
>forgot
Let's be honest, the goal was all appearance, does a walking railgun shooting stealth nuke look like a doomsday superweapon?
Sure do, so who care if someone is capable of doing the math? He'll buy the game too because it's awesome.
the game had the appearance of having done its homework to me, what with the dedicated nuclear encyclopedia codec character
You can only ask so much.
I'm happy the Metal is even half-legit as an artillery vehicle.
Also I wish there was a game where you pilot Metal-Gear like vehicle without it simply being shooting arcade against normal vehicle.
Who do I have to kill to get that? Putin so Ukrainian game developers can make it? Ok I'm going, be right back.
I always figured it was meant for a medium range nuclear artillery strike
Like a Davy Crockett system was designed for short range use mounted to a truck, but is limited to terrain the truck can traverse.
I think the idea was walking this thing through some badlands where no one is looking and take it up a fucking mountain where its legs can stabilize it even on an incline. Then it can walk away.
Bypassing SALT loopholes was 100% the main use of the railgun though
>I thought my massive energy discharge device would make a rice cooker but they turned it up to 11 wtf
Yeah well it has a mechanical penis that shoots lasers so there.
Hal thought he was making a missle defense platform
He didn't even know they were gonna put a railgun on it, another team did the main armament and he probably thought they would slap some sort of interceptor missle batteries instead. Basically he just engineered the chassis and its use of close range weaponry.
>He didn't even know they were gonna put a railgun on it, another team did the main armament and he probably thought they would slap some sort of interceptor missle batteries instead. Basically he just engineered the chassis and its use of close range weaponry.
I'm the guy who posted
and he can't have been unaware of the railgun since he would need to plan the radar position/recoil and bracing.
If we introduce logic/realism, the most credible take is that Metal Gear can't be used to launch nuke.
>Metal Gear can't be used to launch nuke.
Launch intercontinental nukes maybe, but using it as nuclear artillery is still on the table, such projects very much existed in tracked form.
Given the Metal Gear make a joke of inflatable decoy, nothing would be "stealth" about the projectiles it fire. It's also so rare you can afford to watch it 24h/24h even without IR satellite.
Stealth nukes (+ treaty avoidance) was the only rational justifying Metal gear as the ultimate superweapon.
Remove it and it's just a nuke launcher that you hope cannot be intercepted.
At most a first stage for a hypersonic gliding vehicle but without the range and more costly.
The most ""rational"" use would be as an artillery unit that shoot cheap projectile so far away (300km? 500km?) that only cruise missiles could hope to reach it, and it's well equipped to intercept those.
He was in denial about and just went along so he can continue to work on his robots. Natasha kinda points that out. They did something similar with Huey's personality but Otacon managed to shake it off and not go batshit delusional in the end.
Otacon is an Engineer not a Scientist reeeeeeeeeee
fair enough my bad
I mean, have you read about the creator of TNT? he legitimately thought nations would be scared shitless of it and come together and stop all wars.
People tend to forget the hidden cool shit Metal Gear REX has, it knows KUNG FU.
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Too busy having sex with his stepmom and driving his cuck dad to suicide to consider such things I guess.
>I just wanted to create fighter planes what do you mean Zeros were used to attack civilians in Pearl Harbor and now they're being flown into American aircraft carriers noooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>actually I dont really care so long as i get to build planes
let me help you op
>if i make this device work i'll redirect the sun power to a solar panel and have infinite energy!
>people end using it as a tesla canon like red alert 2
why did they even build the metal gear? couldn't have they transported the rail gun in some other way? how is it even fueled? was it just a scheme to steal govt funding? did the rail gun even work?
>why did they even build the metal gear?
Giant robot cool
>couldn't have they transported the rail gun in some other way?
It's supposed to operate independently and covertly on any terrain, that's the main justification.
>how is it even fueled?
It was the early 00's from the lens of the 90's no one cared if it used 1000 barrels a day at the time the game was written.
>was it just a scheme to steal govt funding?
Unironically yeah Sears wanted to disrupt the patriots
>did the rail gun even work?
They fire it from Arsenal in MGS4
>try to find the cure for whatever
>create anthrax
WOAHH
Hal always knew it was going to be used for warfare, but he thought it was a defensive platform. He didn't know about the railgun being able to launch ICBMs because he didn't work on the weaponry itself.
>Wait a second, the bipedal robot with a dick laser and rocket launchers was equipped with a secret weapon, a launcher capable of launching nukes undetected and ballistically, able to skirt treaties made with Russia?
The people who hired him knew his past and what his stances were on nuclear weapons. Also, the weapon WAS KEPT SECRET from pretty much everyone. Otacon COULDNT even have had any idea, thinking about it logically.
He was just happy to build cool anime robots.
Yeah, but what are cool robots used for in anime? Mostly war shit.
Otacon isnt a pacifist, he knows what hes dealing with here. He had a specific moral problem with NUKES as his father worked on the Manhattan project
Why act like that’s implausible though? Werner von Braun’s whole shtick after the war was “I wanted to go to the moon, I only hit London by accident lol”
scientists are the real evil of this world I mean look at ww2 germany, hitler hated garden gnomes yet still used them for WOMD
imagine if they censor the collections and it completely ruins the fact that you can actually play the games on pc for real without emulation
lol
they said they wouldn't but there is a warning on the cover that states the game was a product of their time
yeah but do you really trust them? be real when was the last time you seen a game like this go uncensored completely
I don't think you can even make a remake of twisted metal black today because people are too much of pussies and would think the game is against some absurd minority
Even if you subtract the nuke part, it's clearly something intended to kill a lot of people efficiently.
He probably just thought they wanted to use it to ride around in and look cool with like he wanted to with anime.
This is how the scientists behind the invention of the atomic bomb acted after they were shown pictures of people suffering from radiation after the bombing.
>Why did they do this
>Why did they do that
>They should have done this instead
Because otherwise we wouldnt have a game worth talking about because NONE of the shit that happened in Shadow Moses could have happened
You can change metal gear to anything like a james bond space reflector laser satellite or a regular ICBM they are gonna launch.
The only difference would be whether or not you fight a giant robot
Hell you could still give Liquid a giant robot and it doesn't need to be the weapons platform for the doomsday device
>No way... The bomb I built.... Killed people??? No way man... No frickin way
>wait a sec, you mean the weapon I designed for missile interception, they are trying to use it to launch nuclear "stealth bomb"?
>but that's stupid! it could never ever work that way!
>the metal gear is easily detectable! and so is the heat generated by hypersonic projectiles plowing through thick atmosphere
>it would never ever reach far enough to be of any use!
>even if it could get it range from a nearby allied country anyone would blame the metal gear nearby
>worst! using it as a nuclear vector would mean no one will trust it again as a defensive weapon
>It was supposed to be an antimissile system you can't dodge, more mobile than any army, and a potent artillery with that!
>they are ruining it!
unironically many such cases. or at least 2.
Snake calls him on this immediately lol
Snake faces the bare fact of what he is and does every day, which is why he has his whole "I'm no hero, just a killer" thing. He just tries to use it for what he thinks is right while constantly struggling with his own bloodlust. It makes sense he'd see Otacons delusion.
how come is 2023 and we dont have metal gears running around??
Because land based drones are inefficient compared to aerial ones and most aquatic drones are just rebranded torpedos.
Some of irl wandering munitions (suicide drones) are fucking crazy though.
Is my writing too deep for u?