>wants to be an idol
>commits one of the biggest taboos in the industry and gets into a relationship
>and fucking marries him
>a Yakuza no less
>inevitably tanks her career because of this
>years later
>tears apart a family so she can turn Haruka into an idol and live through her vicariously
>refuses to pay trainer
>game expects me to feel sorry for her when she dies because she was nice to Haruka once
most agree Park was a bitch that got what she deserved.
Why didn't she start vtubing?
she's a retarded hag that can't operate a computer
didnt exist yet
Because even she was better than that
Park's story were the only cutscenes I've ever skipped in any Yakuza game during a first time playthrough. Definitely the most satisfying death in the entire franchise. Wish she had suffered more.
I don't get it, why can't they get into a relationship?
japs are obsessed with purity, if you so much as look at a man it could ruin the image of being a pure virgin girl, Yakuza are also heavily looked down upon so that would have made it way worse
>Yakuza are heavily looked down
This bugs me. They control a lot of industries (gambling, racing, etc), operate pretty much openly, have steady supply of people admiring, respecting and wanting to be like them and yet you tell me society don't like them?
Idols are some sort of modern geishas - they are supposed to be "pure" and idealised, pretty living dolls performing on stage, holding your hand at meetups, smiling and signing photos. When idol sing about finding true love, every single guy watching this is supposed to believe that she is singing about him. Breaking this illusion is like ruining everything to idol fans. Essentially living, 3D waifus.
Fun fact - ever saw that colored sticks at idol performances? When performing in groups, every idol have her own associateed colour and fans are supposed to wave the one representing their favourite idol. Fans that use two or more colours, not having favourite or switching "allegiances" are heavily frowned upon by other fans. They are really "100% serious waifu bussines".
lol. No one likes nor wants to be Yakuza in Japan. They are scum.
>have steady supply of people admiring, respecting and wanting to be like them
just how retarded are you westoids
Aren't they?
>and yet you tell me society don't like them?
Are you taking the piss? Do you think Mexicans like the cartel too?
Yakuza games glorify the Yakuza in a positive light, not to mention until the sars attacks, nips were fine with them killing people and still would be if it weren't for western pressure at that time.
Nips wouldn't want to be called out in supporting the Yakuza terrorists.
To this day they still get support from the government, otherwise they would've cracked down on them instantly.
What an inane statement. The yakuza aren't any more romanticized than any other criminal gangs like the italian mafia or any other gangster groups.
> To this day they still get support from the government, otherwise they would've cracked down on them instantly.
Really? My admittedly limited knowledge of Japan combined with the events of Yakuza 7 led me to believe anti-Yakuza laws pretty much killed the Yakuza
>anti-yakuza laws
so instead of them being the yakuza, they're now known as the brokuza who are legally investing in properties, gambling, etc
which of course does nothing to eliminate the people behind it
begone with your faggy posturing moralfagging
>which of course does nothing to eliminate the people behind it
The entire point of these laws is to completely prevent any of the people behind it from doing anything in the first place. It forces these people to either do legitimate jobs and legitimate business or get thrown in jail for varying crimes.
>To this day they still get support from the government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza_exclusion_ordinances
nips had it good as far as criminal organizations go tbh. there will always be people who fall through the cracks so underbellies always exist. better to have people native to the gutter but with propriety in control of it. the problem of course is that crooks will always try to push further since why wouldn't they when they're already breaking laws? nips only fucked up in getting too comfortable with them.
The main issue with dismantling organized crime is you end up dealing with a lot of unorganized crime.
yeah but while that may be more annoying it's easier to stamp them out individually than it is to remove a large parasitic criminal organization that society has left to fester. if you care to anyway. as ever it's lack of vigilance that's the issue. either path can be managed but it has to actually be managed, not just left alone.
>Yakuza games glorify the Yakuza in a positive light
only an amerimutt could say shit like this
dude has not been paying attention to the misery porn that is Kiryu's life story
>have steady supply of people admiring, respecting and wanting to be like them and yet you tell me society don't like them?
Only thugs and clueless foreigners who think they're le noble warriors. They're sex trafficking, drug dealing, scamming, violent criminals. The pathetic mooks that Kiryu constantly beats up in substories are close to the real thing.
>have steady supply of people admiring, respecting and wanting to be like them and yet you tell me society don't like them?
lol. lmao even
You know what yakuza means? LOSER.
They're literally called losers and are somehow proud of it. Nobody outside of the yakuza admires the yakuza besides other losers.
Yakuza haven't been operating openly (aside from the nigerian mafia) since around '06.
One of the games even touches on that.
Yakuza lost a lot of power in the late 90s/early 00s because the government cracked down on them hard. If you were yakuza you had problems even getting a cellphone, much more an apartment or opening a business.
And they've cracked down even harder since. It used to be that if you're a yakuza, you have to commit a crime to be arrested and go to jail. Now, simply being a member of a yakuza organization is in itself a criminal offense. Yakuza aren't cartels, they aren't stupid enough to start killing cops if the pressure gets put on them because they know it's a battle they ultimately won't win, so their power is getting whittling to nothing.
maybe 1 in 10 Japanese people admire the Yakuza, the rest think they are scum and should be annhiliated from Japanese society
damn, one piece really wanked them hard, so i thought they were more popular
i was confused why them fighting each other was supposed to be sad when they are scumbags
Idol fans make the people who unironically follow celebrity garbage look downright sane.
Parasocialness is not inherently an illness. It‘s a natural process that happens, when you consume or interact with a media personality. It‘s a faulty instinct from our tribal past being triggered. The problem is when you don’t critically examine it and create an environment, where you embrace it and encourage it in others. It‘s like a community for addicted alcoholics. which encourages you to give in to your addiction.
It is a natural reaction that very quickly turns into a mental illness when the person engaging with it is a pathetically desperate coward who lives through escapism, like most mental illnesses are extreme pathological versions of normal reactions to things, most people are mentally ill and the contents of their brain are comparable to a Wii shovelware game.
Normies are still worse anon. I don't see idol fans allowing drag queen storytime as long as they don't have to see it. I think they are autists but still.
>normies
>kid drag queen bullshit our of nowhere
go back to r/incel, you fucking normalfag
Not him but you will never be a woman and the scars from when you last cut yourself are still visible
I don't think someone who brings that up out of nowhere can be described as normal anon.
>go to r/incel
>you normalfag
Those are literally opposite things
>Idol fans make the people who unironically follow celebrity garbage look downright sane.
Imagine thinking the """"people"""" who believe the object of their desire isnt getting plowed just because they get told so are better than """people""" obsessed with celebrities.
You could at least talk to, shake the hand, of and take photos with idols while most people will never come within breathing distance of a celebrity and most celebrities don't bother hiding their disdain for their gigafans.
>japs are obsessed with purity, if you so much as look at a man it could ruin the image of being a pure virgin girl
so... basically just like 95% of the American chudcels shitting up this board
You watch too much anime or jdrama or something. Japanese girls are whooores. Only idols have to keep an image and Korea is way more stupid about that. Japan fucks an is gross.
Japanese have a very weird parasocial mentality. And they are completely unapologetic about it. They want their idol to to be virgins and not be in a relationship to fantasize about her better. Of course they idols are in relationships, they just keep it very secret for this reason.
In Japan these people aren‘t shamed, when speaking out in public, so they are a huge and vocal part of the fanbase and normalize this parasocial attitude.
Go on /gig/ and claim that any Genshin character is talking to a character of the opposite sex.
Then, see the (you)s pour in, and imagine that x10.
ask a /vt/umor and have a good laugh afterwards
HOPE
Kek I need to see the full source of that
its live action gintama
I forgot there is a live action movie of Gintama. It is any good?
They're some of the greatest live-action adaptations ever made.
Where?
japanese "humor"
Oshi no ko be like.
its like reversed whoring, you are getting paid to not fuck (unless its the producers and executives)
if you want to get into a relationship then just retired and do it but they wont
they can't comprehended that and want both the cake and eat it too
like you don't see athletics go around doing drug (that isnt roid) while they are completing
The only correct takes. People who can't understand this dynamic or try to change it are absolute retards.
Financial benefit. In return for taking money from incredibly lonely men willingly to throw excessive amounts of cash at you for being pure, you maintain a level of purity which makes them want to throw money at you.
I'd make the argument that it's actually optimal practice since you aren't devaluing yourself by being an actual whore and you can tap out at any time when you find a partner so you could just make a ton of cash fleecing the tragic demographic then go find a partner as you get a bit older then graduate.
money
It's very rapidly starting to change.
Nowadays It's become more acceptable for idols to have boyfriends, and otaku will still simp for them.
Honestly, I consider that worse. At least before idols had to really earn their simping by pretending to be pure, It's rather pathetic that men are still willing to simp them knowing another man is fucking their beloved idol.
why are Japs becoming so soft and pathetic
>becoming
They've been this way since they lost the war.
Western influence and tourism
It's not just the Japanese.
Western Marxist influence. There used to be a screenshot passed around on this board. It was a post by some troon talking about how he’s only living in Japan basically to undermine its cultural values. Sick shit
maybe they wisened up and just follow them casually now? like they just enjoy the music and shows and stuff instead of living in fantasyland
Underground idols definitely fuck but at least they still have the decency to keep it private and their agencies fire them on the spot if their relationships come out.
I'm in it for the music and the live shows.
LOL
I used to be an idol-fag, but the agencies have been way too relaxed since covid. Literally pictures of idols out in public with their boyfriends, and they don’t even issue you apology. 4 years ago, that would have been an immediate contract termination.
it's called idol for a reason. the whole idea is worshipping and your fans imagining you're their long distance gf. basically eceleb shit. If they actually cared about the music part they'd just be singers instead.
They can, but they'll lose their fans if they do, and if they can't keep an audience the company won't be making any money and they'll have no reason to keep them employed.
They can do whatever they want, piss off whomever, pander to whomever, but others will not be required to comply. They are not entitled to fan support and the adoration of the otakus who keep up the industry. These fans can also spend their money however they want, for whatever reason they see fit.
So if somebody does not meet the requirements to be someone people will idolize, they cannot force the market to comply, as they can't have their cake and eat it too.
This fact sends western roasties and their defenders absolutely seething, because repercussions and accountability are foreign concepts that they think should not apply to them.
Japanese incels get into parasocial relationships with idols. So if an idol starts dating someone, they basically feel cheated on.
because she is an idol?
did you not read OP's greentext?
what part about idol do you not understand?
modern day version of yamato nadeshiko, aka
>muh purity
which makes it funnier that they're so obsessed with cuck shit
It's not "muh purity", it's to keep alive the delusion of "if they aren't currently attached, that means I have a chance!" To be fair, it's not a completely impossible delusion, there is a vtuber that fucked one of her fans. Then it turns out he just pumped and dumped her and then bragged about it, fucking gigachad
The rules was there in the beginning for the parents of the idol rather than the fans. The parents didn't want their daughters getting fuck by the managers.
Sure but the reason it's so openly a thing and not something just on the contract is for the fans
>The parents didn't want their daughters getting fuck by the managers
woops
It's not Producer-kun's fault that they all want to fuck him
People act like this is a wierd eastern thing but Brittany Spears had a purity clause in her contract back in the day.
YOU WANT TO GET SPRAYED BY THE JONAS BROS WHITE HOT FOAM!?
I love 5, but man the story, and Haruka's bullshit sucked.
its even worse in 6.
Haruka's stuff is still better than the boring retarded Saejima prison chapters, literally the lowest point of the whole series
Haruka's shit just went on for way too long, and the worst part is it cuts into Akiyama's chapter.
Prison at least has a cool pay off, with the yard fight, snow mobile section and then a bossfight against a bear. Haruka just sucks ass and then there's an okay long battle with Akiyama.
I love prison man
It was one chapter but yes, it sucked. 5 undid all of the progress and arcs from 4 and it annoyed me.
I enjoyed her section too.
no way fag
>Be the most based character in the franchise
>Get stuck doing prison bullshit in every game
Being a Saejima fan is suffering
Him not caring about Majima's death was so out of character
I do find it really funny how despite him having absolutely no importance to the plot in 6, they still threw him back in prison
I hope the yakuza being dissolved means we finally get to see him roaming about without having to contrive a reason for it
Nah, he's still got time to serve. In the time off screen, he actually broke out of prison again just for the rush.
>next game he's in prison for jaywalking
If he actually goes to prison in 8 I'm going to fucking lose it, I don't know why I find him being in prison so funny
Poor guy's suffering from recidivism and is just committing petty crimes to get sent back to the slammer and mentor more young thugs
>He goes back to prison just to hang out with baba again
>He goes back to prison just to break Baba and Kido out
>Daigo: Yondaime, we're had to go into hiding from some group, we have to go somewhere that nobody would know about
>Saejima: *lightbulb* I have an idea
>they go to the abandoned Okinawa Penitentiary No. 2
Because he's getting Poochie'd this way. Him being involved would help a lot because he's a legend and big muscle but to keep things dangerous.
>I have to go now, my Cell Block needs me.
>>I have to go now, my Cell Block needs me.
Saejima just likes prison food.
How was it?
>half the video is just a retelling of the plot
Yeah no thanks.
tldr Daigo did nothing wrong
His only mistake was to keep leaning on Kazuma "I will bail on you every time but still admonish you because I'm a hypocritical nagger" Kiryu.
>5.5 hour autistic "analysts"
who watches this garbage
his analysis are the only ones I watch because he talks about the city, the production, the minigames, and the story. And it's really a comment and not just a retelling, going sometimes meta saying they didn't really achieved what they wanted and all that.
have a nice day
You dont understand the e-celeb that reads info from a wiki is very intelligent, educated and most of all is my bestest friend in the whole wild world.
you are replying to yourself?
>newfag can't into samefags
Who are you quoting?
go back
Lurk 10 years before posting, 2016 election 0fags
says the homosexual who watched 5 hour video game essays
>newfag also can't into greentext
jesus christ just go back to plebbit
oh he also has an english accent
that apparently makes him smart
Tehsnakerer is at least based.
nigga, im only 30 min in. ask me again next week.
gonna watch it tonight, thanks to him I didn't buy any of the Yakuza games because they're just badly written movies with lackluster gameplay and now I'm craving to replay Sleeping Dogs, fuck
> call RGG badly-written movies with lackluster gameplay
> craves Sleeping Dogs, the game that fizzles out in the end, has pretty weak plot structure and gameplay is jankier than any DE game so far
Not sure if bait. I like Sleeping Dogs as much as the next guy, but be subtle next time.
>Sleeping Dogs
What do people see in this game? The combat is boring, the driving is atrocious, and the gunplay is so laughable they should've left it out. The story is ass to boot.
still only 3 hours in, but so far, it's the same level of quality as the 5 and 0 videos
he's literally the only good "video game essayist", as he actually goes in depth on the story, characters, themes, progression, exploration, technology, etc. He's not like those retards on youtube that literally do nothing but just do a synopsis of the main story, and still fail to do so, as they often get a lot wrong. Tehsnakerer is actually invested into the series and often makes comparisons with the other games while also citing a few developer notes and interviews
buy an ad homosexual
zoomers can't think for themselves
>zoomers can't think for themselves
too fucking true
Nice. Will watch later.
save yourself the trouble and have a nice day now
I'll tell you in a couple days because I'm not watching a 5 and a half hour video in one sitting.
I'm not watching it at all.
Cool, didn't ask.
seriously who watches this dumb shit
autistic people but i think it's the guy making the video shilling them here
LOL you must not have a lot going on in life if you can spend 5 hours on some retard rambling about a video game
LOL I'm not watching this crap, and the ones who did need to kill themselves
unpopular opinion: I enjoyed Haruka's part in Yakuza 5, I thought it was refreshing from the usual gameplay especially when you play 4 other dudes already and it doesn't last that long
fuck off yuta
the gameplay wasn't terrible but Haruka personnality was annoying, her always being smilling even when she's bullied by the two idol cunts was the worst because I really expected these two to get some justice but nope they are all fine and dandy at the end
I enjoyed it, it was nice change of pace but admittedly it did go on too long.
Also I’m not one to laws Haruka but those climax outfits for her dance……wew
RGGS idol simulator when?
This. The worst part in the game is Shinada. One of the shittiest movesets and his story is the epitome of filler.
i miss the t-set copypasta spammer
>mfw Akiyama starts talking about Park again like she was the second coming of Christ
5 was so fun, yet so retarded
>shiiiiiiieeeeeet it do be was only a rubber cancer bruv my bad i'm good bruv ayo imma come back one more time bruv imma beat they daidoji ass and be salutin at morning glory yall
and haruka learned absolutely nothing from Park
>people around her sacrificing themselves so haruka can become an idol
>she just decides to throw it all away
>puts herself in a precarious situation by just running away without telling anyone
>makes her situation even worse by getting impregnated by some retarded backwater yakuza after he beat some paparazzi
what a dumb bitch
I liked Yuta.
will Yuta ever come back ? I feel like letting Haruka get impregnated by a fucking chinese dude is their biggest mistake
He's a big name actor, so while it's not impossible for him to come back (he already played Rikiya in Y3, of course), it's not too likely unless they decide they want Haruka to take center stage for a whole game again, because it wouldn't be worth bringing him back for a tiny cameo. Gaiden didn't even mention his name despite him supposedly living in the orphanage after 6.
>Gaiden didn't even mention his name despite him supposedly living in the orphanage after 6.
Tachi mentioned him when talking about Haruto's growth
Haruka never cared that much about being an Idol to begin with, she really only started doing it in the first place because Park threatened to get the orphanage shut down if she didn't and only continued to do it after Park's death because she felt obligated to at least go through with Park's Tokyo Dome dream
Yes because what Haruka really wanted to do was become teen pregnant by some chink that leaves her a single mother.
Haruka should have been caged up.
>Yes because what Haruka really wanted to do was become teen pregnant by some chink that leaves her a single mother.
It's really the perfect example of what happens when teen girls are left unattended. It's the biggest consequence of Kiryu being an idiot and giving into the demands of a total stranger to leave his home and kids behind.
Japan has too few kids, not too many. They're either not fucking or using protection.
Haruka is just retarded, like father like son
I mean, at least Kiryu did the right thing in the end and disowned her.
Fucking laughed my ass off at the end of 6 when they reveal that the letter he was writing earlier in the game was to Daigo and not Haruka
>Paparazzi is tailing her at the orphanage
>Hmm, is there anyone in Osaka that can help me?
>If only there was some clan or family or even a gang that could help me
>Ah well, as the only adult left in the orphanage, better just run away
Other than the orphanage, I feel like most of 3 has just been written off.
None of the 3-only characters outside the orphanage ever get mentioned and even Lau and Kashiwagi have been brought back from the dead. Best we get is a Rikiya trading card in Ishin.
I'm playing 3 right now and feel like skipping it because of the constant blocking shit from enemies. Can I just skip to 4?
Get the double quickstep upgrade as quick as you can so you can get around the backs of enemies when they block.
If you're on PC, quickstepping is broken without a mod.
But yeah, nothing of importance really happens in 3 other than the fact Kiryu moved to Okinawa and runs an orphanage because the rest of the plot gets retconned in later entries.
The true Dragon of the Dojima style involves grab and throws. Play it that way.
This. They had to dumb down the combat for retards after 3
>dumb it down
>introduce 3 new combat styles that all approach enemies completely differently with their own strengths and weaknesses
Why are 3 fags like this? The combat was caca dogshit.
NTA, but I feel bosses were much more aggressive before 4. Could just be me though..
If you’re not pressing O or B to grab/throw after every other button press, you’re playing the game wrong. Kiryu canonically makes use of these tactics in a fight.
>Lol just turn purple ultra instinct mode and quickstep behind the enemy
Trash
3 deserves to forgotten after pulling CIA twin brother assassin out of its ass.
Beautiful eyes.... rike I heard from my brutha before.
>He thinks that was CIA
>Nakahara gets one of his guys to beat or threaten some homosexual reporter
>next headline reads: ASAGAO ORPHANAGE RUN BY YAKUZA!?
haruka fucked everything up when she revealed her relationship to kiryu
Nice spoiler homosexual
11 years
they are the best
I'm starting to play zero
this is fun, first time playing yagooozer
the big guys are raping my ass and stealing my hard earned cash though.
they are walking banks at the end. The most important thing to remember is that they punish greed : don't do long combos stick to the usual two square one triangle (especially brawler slap having a nice range). Pick your moments, they are pretty much DArk Souls bosses with patterns
Unlock snatching strike and the passive that increase damage while drunk and low health. You can stunlock them to eternity and kill them in 30 seconds.
majima got buttfucked by saejima and you all know it
Haruka was a mistake.
IM FUCKING SICK OF THE ORPHANAGE AND HARUKA BEING IN EVERY FUCKING GAME
I love the orphanage and every time Kiryu gets sad about them I also get sad
Shut up nagoshi
>Introduced as a the Lenny Small to Morinaga’s George Milton
>Gets his ass kicked by Kiryu
>Killed off screen
>Shows back up alive 30 hours later into the game
>Gets his ass kicked by Saejima
>Cries like a bitch about how his kyoudai left him
>Walks off screen
>Shows back up as the final boss and was the true mastermind behind everything
What the fuck was this plot?
He wasn't the true mastermind, Kurosawa was and he was waiting for his opportunity to show he could actually live up to what Kurosawa was leaving him, since even though both he and Morinaga were working with Kurosawa, Morinaga thought Aizawa was a little bitch who'd probably get whooped by Kiryu. Really Aizawa exists as the final boss because Kurosawa was made a sneaky sickly old man, which wouldn't make a cool final boss fight, so they needed someone that represents Kurosawa's plan that isn't Kurosawa himself that'd be able to work as that burly man final boss fight.
>Literally masterminds the events of Yakuza 4
>Is directly responsible for ruining Majima’s, Saejima’s, and Tanimura’s lives
>Is shown to be a formidable and feared Yakuza
>Killed in a cutscene by Saejima’s sister
>An old man with a gun is the final boss
I will never forgive them
It's better that Saejima's final fight was against Kido though, slimy fuck like Katsuragi deserved a stupid death while Kido got to go balls out.
he should've died a more pathetic death
the final showdown of yakuza 4 is pure ludo except the police chief boss and even that works thematically
That's fine.
I prefer the way he exits stage left compared to how they handle that homosexual in Yakuza 6.
Certain characters aren't meant to rip off their shirt, show they're ripped, and secretly be the strongest fighter in the game.
Katsuragi is a schemer an OG Yakuza type, he knew the game and how to play it. He's not a brawler and shouldn't be standing toe to toe with any of the protagonists, so the fact that he doesn't do that is a GOOD thing.
Yakuza 1 did it right with Jingu as well, making him this coward running away from you the entire fight while his bodyguards fuck you up.
Meanwhile Yakuza 6's final boss was like "Really, this guy is supposed to be strong...?"
Iwami is intended to be a pretender. He's not a real yakuza and his tattoo is misleading thematically. Even Kiryu openly mocks him which he usually doesn't do cause he at least respects all the other final bosses.
That's fair, but the guy ends up being an actually strong boss.
I get from a game design perspective you don't want your final boss to go down in 3 hits, but the little homosexual should have been a pushover or not the final boss at all.
Koshimizu was the final boss.
He's the catalyst for Majima's situation on 0 yet he's a non character on that game.
He's mentioned briefly, but the whole 1985 hit is glossed over pretty hard, other than Majima occasionally muttering something about Saejima at a few points before getting involved with 0's actual plot.
You don't even get a boss fight with him before he gets killed either. You go through one of the best long battles in the series with one of the best soundtracks in the series to not have a boss fight. I really thought 4 was redeeming itself in Kiryu's chapters but it dropped the ball at the end.
I think it's perfectly fitting you never actually fight him because the whole point of Katsuragi's character is he never tries to get his own hands dirty, he always hides behind other people and slinks away to fight another day. So to get unceremoniously killed off in a cutscene the one time he can't get away makes sense.
This, if anything the one that doesn't make sense that you never fight him is Hamazaki. He actually did get his hands dirty throughout 3, he had to in order to keep up the secret that his entire "family" is like 3 people and he uses the Chinese for his muscle
You do fight Hamazaki. In the arena, but still
They did Hamazaki dirty. Mofo had one of the better introductions in the game where he terrifies a Chinese chef, eats a duck head, then blows up his restaurant. I was hoping he was a badass but then he got off screened then shows back up and stabs Kiryu with a knife and that's one half of the ending.
It's because by taking down the Snake Flower Triad, you inadvertently destroy the Hamazaki Family without even knowing it. You reduced him to nothing without even knowing he existed, and he just wants to vent.
>it dropped the ball at the end
But that fucking set.
8 dudes brawling it out on top of a skyscraper while money flies all around. It's so great they made it into an entire game with 0.
>the part where all the mcs walk up to the building in suits
>4 bosses back to back
>each one the track is a version of the main theme
>arguably not the boss themes, but the MCs'; you are the final boss
I don't care about those weird plot points, you're not supposed to think for Yakuza, you're supposed to feel!
>fuck, we have no idea who's behind all these plots and schemes what do we do bros?
>lets take a big pile of money and put it on top of a skyscraper, then we beat the shit out of anyone who tries to take it
>it actually works
kino finale
Still the best end of any of the games.
I like how 5 makes fun of this scenario
>We still haven’t discovered who’s fucking with us
>Ive got an idea, let’s go to the top of the building, take our shirts off, and beat each other to death. That’ll lure the mastermind out
>Kurosawa fucking snipes them from another building after they get done almost killing each other
Maximum kek
Then as usual
But Daigo shows up just to job that time
The point is Daigo seems to have better marksmanship than literally anyone else in the series.
back up as the final boss and was the true mastermind behind everything
imagine struggling to follow the soap opera shit of yakuza lmao
5 was particularly contrived, I still maintain the scene where Kiryu and friends beat each other up for no reason because the game just forgot to give them any leads to get to the next thread is the stupidest scene in the series RUBBER BULLETS is revealed hours after you see the shooting and doesn't take away from the cinematography of the scene.
>RUBBER BULLETS is revealed hours after you see the shooting and doesn't take away from the cinematography of the scene.
honestly rubber bullets getting the hate it did was retarded, did people forget that one of the people who orchestrated the plot was planning on getting shot at?
People expect Majima and Saejima to have just known the bullets were fake despite the tech being new and both of them having never used a gun before.
Or they expect Saejima to stick around and inspect the bodies to make sure they're dead even though the police are surely already on the way.
The rubber bullets twist really suffers from "well if I was there" syndrome
You forgot to mention the fact that the two dumbasses who were behind it got found out immediately and every part of their plot was ridiculed in game. I don't think having people do stupid shit in fiction is bad so long as there's someone else in universe who acknowledges that what they did was stupid
People (autists) think characters making mistakes or bad decisions in the story means the writing itself is bad
>Him being an actual killer trying to make amends and do right is better than what it turned out to be
He's still a killer. He went in there intending to kill and his actions lead to their deaths albeit indirectly. He's still responsible.
Rubber bullets is dumb because they're still lethal at the range Saejima was shooting some of them from. Also it kills his character, at least to me. Him being an actual killer trying to make amends and do right is better than what it turned out to be.
>Rubber bullets is dumb because they're still lethal at the range Saejima was shooting some of them from
not from a .38
It's a franchise where people tank 5 cutscene bullets and can still fight. The actual realistic lethality of guns can be handwaved at least a little bit.
I mean, it doesn’t really matter if the bullets are still lethal or kill someone as long as Katsuraugi and the Chairman don’t die, which Katsuragui has some degree of control over as long as he moves in the right direction.
It's a meme, most of the peoples spewing that shit never bothered to play Y4
It's so annoyingly prevalent that I've seen people go into the game mostly blind, only knowing about rubber bullets, only to have their opinion of the game obviously influenced by it, going in expecting to hate it and not allowing a pre-determined opinion to be challenged.
I went into 4 knowing about rubber bullets and it didn't bother me at all nor ruin the story. Instead, I was bursting out laughing for the rest of the game once Sugiuchi revealed he was a yakuza the whole time, Arai revealed he was a cop the whole time, Arai tried shooting Munakata, and Akiyama just leaves his safe with all of his money unlocked, and everyone decided the only rational option was to wait on a roof until everyone who wanted the money showed up. It was just twist after twist after twist and I was laughing my ass off.
I for one don't really care about other's views on shows or games. Am also a Jojo fan, so dumb memes being repeated by fake fans is usual business for me
People take Yakuza 4 too seriously. From the getgo you just know they only abided the rule of cool. Yeah the story is dumb if you dig into it, but is it boring? Hell no,
You just feel the passion behind it.
>marvel fans be like
Retard
>People take Yakuza 4 too seriously.
This
>From the getgo you just know they only abided the rule of cool.
But not this.
It's not rule of cool, it's that RGG is not a hard-boiled realistic crime drama. It's a hypermasculine soap opera meant to string your interest and attention along in order to wind up at a wishy washy message about the Japanese legal system or the police or Alzheimers or bullying. It's also a fujo series, and anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves.
>dad walks in
No in this case it's a woman playing and
>mom walks in
And then she sits down and starts watching
I still hate how they ruined this scene in the new version.
0fags in general take Yakuza too seriously
Most people who meme on the rubber bullets never played the game, they're kids who saw memes online and ran with it.
The rubber bullets still are retarded when used later in the scene with Arai and Munakata, but I don't even care that much about that.
But the infamous 18-hit Taiga scene is ridiculed for rubber bullets when It's actually a good scene and plot point, especially because, as someone else mentioned, in the games own plot, the conspiracy is ridiculed by Munakata who immediately saw through Katsuragi's sloppy scheme and blackmailed him for life off of it.
The rubber bullets were kind dumb, but definitely not as dumb as "Dad's secret CIA twin brother with a military jet" or "2 (two) coin locker babies"
Bro, it's dumb because you see literal blood flying out of people as they get shot. If it weren't for that, I'd give the scene a pass
No you don't, go rewatch the scene. The one time you see red liquid it's the noodle broth he gets knocked into.
This. Katsuragi doesn't want to fucking die and he needs his boss to not die as well, but he needs to be there at the hit and he needs to take a bullet for the boss, but it'd be real inconvenient if he died in the process. And I don't want to hear anything about, "but it was a stupid plan" because I don't know if you actually paid attention, the plan is seen as stupid within the context of the story, as in, Katsuragi and Sugiuchi's plan was bad because they were dumb and inexperienced people with more ambition than common sense. The story doesn't try to paint it as some 2000iq 4d chess mastermind plan, if saejima failed or munakata decided to investigate the case further like a good cop would have then it would've completely failed. The truth was covered up by years of corruption. You could argue it's a bit iffy how Saejima didn't know what was going on but he was young and loyal to a fault and it's explained that the rubber bullets weren't even used publicly so how the fuck would he know that they weren't real bullets and has never shot someone before. I think you can hand wave the problem because it IS stupid to create a plan where a man knocks out a room of 18 men by himself BUT it's shown within the story itself that the plan IS stupid. When Sugiuchi hands in his police report to Munakata he doesn't buy it and points out how retarded his report is, which is a complete surprise to Sugiuchi. So their plan was retarded but they got extremely lucky with how Saejima pulled off his part and how Munakata dug into the corruption rather than trying to take Sugiuchi down. It's a dumb plan in-universe that works because it succeeds due to dumb luck, not because it was a good plan.
You laugh and do the
>it's SUPPOSED to be retarded!
But think about every twist in this series so far and tell me it's not on some level intentional, like a cheesy musical chord in soap opera moments.
how can 18 people get unconscious from rubber bullets?
Just googling, "can rubber bullets knock you out", you will see the answer is yes
A rubber bullet at point blank range like Saejima was doing can literally kill you. Some of those guys would likely die of internal bleeding even if Katsuragi didn't kill them.
Advanced rubber bullets, prease unnastand
No it was Kurosawa that was the mastermind. He had two missions he set upon himself:
Give the keys of the kingdom to his retarded son so he doesn't have to eat shit like his old man did
One final "fuck you" to all legends he came to hate for not having to claw their way to the top like he did
Hell the game basically spells out the parallel between Kurosawa and Aizawa vs. Kiryu and Daigo, it's crazy that people still don't get what they're going for with Aizawa
western audience is genuinely too low IQ to understand soap opera shit
Too high IQ*
>have a 0fag friend who's dropped Kiwami like 8 times now but keeps coming back to it only to bitch more about majima everywhere and the combat
How do I convince this guy he's just not gonna like any of the other games?
tell him to play the original where Majima Everywhere isn't a thing
He can just ignore Majima, Tiger Drop from Komaki is the most important part anyway
The other games don't have majima everywhere
Haruka and the orphanage are the heart and soul of the series and if you don't like them then you were filtered and maybe this series isn't for you.
6 did nothing wrong apart from killing off Han, even RGG regrets that one with the body double bullshit in 7
I love Haruka and that's why I think 6 does her an injustice
>6 did nothing wrong
Except for forgetting 99% of the side characters the series had in the Kiryu saga.
>Okinawa
>Morning Glory
>Full powered Dragon of the Dojima style
>Combat that required thinking
>Kanda chase
>Richardson boss fight
>Mine
>Fly
>Still the best game in the series
How did they achieve so much soul?
I wonder if they'll give Ichiban his own Mine archetype antagonist
They did.
>Kume comes back
>fucker got as big as Tendo
>cares about nothing but his ideals
would be kino
I honestly thought Yakuza 8 would be about continuing the commentary on "grassroots" organisations by showing what happens when the political power using the useful idiots goes away for whatever reason and now those idiots have full control over the organisation that was never meant to actually achieve its aims but it seems like they're just sweeping Bleach Japan under the rug
So what happened to him anyway? Is there any hint that he'll appear in IW?
he presumably went to prison, considering he straight up killed a guy, and he'll probably get the chair since he doesn't have any Yakuza connections
>considering he straight up killed a guy
Not just a guy, a major politician.
he will obviously appear in Yakuza 10 as a major villain
>Yakuza 10
>Haruto will have to fight against Mame (He bred for meat in Korea but escaped to join Jingweon he was sent to spy on Kiryu and Haruka)
>Kume (was actually korean and Jingweon) took control of the Daidoji organization
"Mame" is actually Mirror Face and has been since 3
For me its 4
>Enemies have enough hp to make Saejima 1 shotting them feel powerful and not the norm
>Tanimura is the msot fun guy in the series
>That part towards the end when Saejima's buddy takes his top off and he's like twice his size for some fucking reason
>Kiryu showing up near maxed at the end, rather than having forgotten everything yet again
I just started playing it after beating Kiwami 2 a few hours ago. So far, I really appreciate the orphanage camaraderie and the leisure pace it's taking.
Enjoy the cozy Okinawa atmosphere while you can because 3's actual plot is absolute trash
I love the point where you're left with no leads anymore and the game makes the fucking PRIME MINISTER call you to move the plot forward.
Also the part where you're supposed to be ready to thwart an assassination but you fuck around with the kids instead.
I unironically think Yakuza 3 would be one of my top 3 Yakuza games if it took place entirely in Okinawa -- a bold pacebreaker for the series that sees Kiryu caring for his orphanage, being a big fish in a little pond dealing with the small-time Yakuza beef while secretly being the ex-head honcho of the largest Yakuza syndicate in Japan.
The orphanage was my favorite part of Yakuza 3.
it do be like that bruv
Japanese women turn into demons after they get married
How come that noone complained about Saeko being an idol considering her past
Was she? It’s been a while since I played 7. Wasn’t she just some random office lady who joined the gang to get revenge on the the Yakuza who killed her surrogate dad or something?
Because Saeko is the best girl.
>bob haircut
>voiced by Sumire Uesaka
>office girl outfits
>mixture of girly and tomboy traits
I love her bros
You mean in the job party roles? It's just larping, she was a hostess and knows how to manipulate men
>It's just larping
It's not even larping, the jobs aren't real to begin with. It's Ichiban being a schizo and imagining his friends in different outfits. They only ever change into the outfits in his delusions when a battle starts. They're hired by Hello Work but the job they take is at Otohime Land and that's it. I can't remember if their infiltration mission at the Chinese place was an official job, but legally they should just be Otohime Land employees and that's it. We also know Ichiban Confections isn't touched by Ichiban because of Lost Judgment since Ichiban Holdings doesn't exist.
idolshit is retarded predatory, its insane to think she actually wanted to put another person through that
all women are whores and the world would be a better place if they were reguarly beaten
I genuinely have no idea what in fucks name was Majima thinking marrying her. Even he should have known the consequences.
maybe she had blindness when he met her
She is probably the only character in the series I'd rather not have died when she did, I wanted her reaction to Haruka quitting
Part 3 has some very not great characters in it (her, T-Set and Ogita)
I like Park's death because It's one of the few deaths in the series that shocked me.
She had death flags thrown up no doubt, but she gets merc'd off screen very soon after and it makes it feels somewhat unceremonious in a good way.
You almost expect it to be a Yakuza plot twist where she's revealed to not actually be dead, maybe she was just faking her death to avoid the Yakuza or something -- but nah, that bitch was dead for real.
every woman in this franchise is a slut
All J*panese women are
Japanese women are pure and cute
Japanese women are women (derogatory)
it was too easy
>yume yume yume yume yume park-san yume yume park-san yume yume park-san yume princess league yume yume park-san yume yume princess league yume yume
it was too fucking boring
I just like rhythm games
The only type of person I could imagine Haruka's minigame appeals to is someone who likes rhythm games but has barely played them. I'd think that anyone who's half decent would FC the braindead charts on a sightread, then be bored the other 15 times it forces you to play the same chart.
I liked that she died the fucking instant she was 0.00001% nice (by buying absurdly expensive clothes to show off despite being too cheap to pay people proprerly)
It was then instantly forgotten because of the trash heap new guys chapter is, where every single person in his town was a secret yakuza confidant whos lives revolved around him
Easily the worst writing in the series universally, every characters story is bad
>there's actually a semi-date sidequest with amasawa in LJ
why is this allowed
Are you saying Yagami x Amasawa isn't the end goal of the series with Mafuyu seething?
>Can't date the cute office chick
I don't care about the rest, they're mere 10/10's at best
>they're mere 10/10's
>mfw she says she's actually 18
why would a japanese man wait to 18
thats years above the legal limit
its like that in my country too, although i think america does it right, shouldnt be able to fuck before you can drink
Amasawa is the perfect wife for Yagami though
I never got the idol haruka shit because she's unironically like a 7-8/10. Pretty, but no more so and often less so than random NPC's on the street. She's not very likeable as a person since 5 goes out of its way to make her unlikeable (she was likeable when she was like 13). She's not particularly good at singing, dancing, talking to people, selling her brand, anything, yet she gets treat like she's a major name by random people in the game almost instantly
>She's not very likeable as a person since 5 goes out of its way to make her unlikeable
She literally spends most of the jobs appearing on TV shows and actively helping people. The public facing Haruka is absolutely likeable as a person.
>She's not particularly good at singing, dancing
That's why Ogita and Christian were training her like mad, and she was determined to keep it up. Hell, it's why Ogita was fired: Because he couldn't get her up to the standards Park expected of him.
>talking to people
She does. Again, the jobs and main story show she is very good at confronting people in addition to connecting with people.
>selling her brand
Did you miss the 40+ jobs she has to do that are entirely about doing that? She goes on TV talk shows regularly and is the #1 upcoming star they bring on after the first one if I remember right, she does tons of handshake events, she does tons of dance events, and she solves random problems and meets with fans during substories.
She was so good at selling her brand that people in 6 are still supporting her despite her going full retard with a little girl being so obsessed about it it genuinely bothers her mother because she thinks Haruka is a bad influence on the girl. Hell, her songs were so popular they were in all the karaoke bars at the time.
>She spends most of the game getting paid to act nice
>She got an innocent man fired by being shit at her job rather than quitting; this makes her a good person
>Only when paid
Last bit is just weird. How is she such a big star already? Was every existing idol dead?
>She spends most of the game getting paid to act nice
Except off-stage Haruka acts the exact same as on-stage, she's just exhausted from the training Ogita/Christian put her through.
>She got an innocent man fired by being shit at her job
Dude, Ogita did a poor job. Haruka was putting herself to the grindstone for months. As soon as Christian enters the picture and Park dies Haruka makes significant progress in everything.
>How is she such a big star already?
Because the intro to Haruka's part is something like 6 months? A year? It's a long time for her to establish herself, she has money behind her, Park has connections to get her more time on screen, etc.
Haruka was a fucking skank
Yuta was the equivalent of a one night stand, but they still seem to be together by Gaiden.
is Kiwami 2 good
worth playing on its own but not a replacement for OG 2
it's decent but piss easy
No, I'd say its one of the worst in the series. The leveling system is incredibly tedious, almost all combo endings are functionally identical, enemies spam super-armor but also weapons are everywhere and bypass this so you can just choose whether fights are RNG to stun or stunlock to death basically every time, the super mode is broken carpel tunnel syndrome
No. Play the original 2 or don't bother. It plays like 6, but somehow worse and it butchers the soul of the original.
Now that Gaiden and LJ exist there's really no reason to play it. K2 is a really lazy game where they just took 2016 kamurocho and pretends it's 2006
>where they just took 2016 kamurocho and pretends it's 2006
This bothered me so much. There's ads and stuff that clearly have iPhones (or some similar touchscreen smartphone) in them despite it supposedly being 2006. At least they used the old theatre square, but otherwise, it's just taken straight from 6/Judgment.
There's also some new buildings near millenium tower that didn't exist prior to 6, it broke my immersion
it's fucking awful
It's the worst Yakuza game.
If you play it, play it sometime after the original game.
It's OKAY on It's own. It's a terrible remake that cuts a lot of stuff, and is in general, a lazily made game.
Both Kiwamis make this mistake.
Kiwami 2 was too lazy to even put North Pink Street back into the game because in 6 that's where Little Asia is, which leads to obvious continuity error for that era of Kamurocho.
Kiwami 1 is better about it than 6 (Largely because not as much needs to be changed thanks to 0 already doing most of the effort of turning back the clock) but Kiwami 1 still has the issue of all your generic mooks on the street reusing Yakuza 0 assets, which means you're running into leather jacket homosexuals in 2005 rather than guys in hoodies with gold chains like the color gang enemies.
The laziness of the Kiwami games is why I prefer to just play the originals.
ALL REMAKES SUCK ASS
No exceptions. Fuck the Kiwami games (that includes Ishin too, I don't care that it's the only version in English)
It's okay. The pacing is pretty ass and the story isn't that interesting, although I did like Ryuji as a character. Also, you're basically one-shotting bosses by the end from the level scaling system. At least it brought back the hostess minigame.
>Dry looking hair
>Huge nose
>Huge ears
>Bland as fuck face in general; not one feature stands out as better than average
>Only her lips aren't shit and that's because of makeup
im supposed to believe this 4/10 is an idol lol?
Yes
Post her in the Hatsune Miku outfit
>You need
Don't put words in other peoples mouths lol
Literally just play the fucking games when you want, its not complex. The hell is wrong with modern people when they get anxiety over literally playing with toys. Sad.
>Literally just play the fucking games when you want, its not complex.
It's a mentality thing, it's just "that easy" for some people but not for others. Not really sure why this is such a hard concept for you to grasp that other people think in different ways.
you and a lot of other people on this board misunderstand japanese idol culture
you're supposed to want to cheer for them because they're an underdog that works hard which motivates you to continue working hard too and you have an oshi because you're invested in their story and growth as a talent
that sidestory with the rural music girl who comes to the city in judgment is a closer ideal to a real idol
Most people don't understand it. The entire concept was that any regular girl off the street could make it given the will and a push in the right direction. A lot of westerners fail to grasp the concept for some reason, even the ones who are considered to be hardcore weebs.
>A lot of westerners fail to grasp the concept for some reason, even the ones who are considered to be hardcore weebs.
that's because the vast majority of western celebrities are handpicked by music labels and movie studios, the idea of some guy working up their way to stardom through hardwork and determination is completely foreign to us
There is no way Kiryu and Haruka wouldnt have realised she was just trying to use them.
Its a game with like 10 games and every game acts like its the final one, the plot is a mess and you can't fix it.
>the plot is a mess and you can't fix it.
They could if they had the balls to actually reboot it like they were going to with Like a Dragon.
Or hell, even just keeping it in it's own parallel universe like Judgment, but they fucked that up too with Lost Judgment and now Gaiden combining the two entirely.
The solution is extremely simple. Here it is: Make it life Final Fantasy, every game is new characters, new plot, new map. You keep the overall mechanics and themathic of making it about Japanese crime melodrama. That's it, fixed. You can have similar stories without being dragged down by the ridiculous task of keeping 10 games across 20 years making sense.
>every game is new characters, new plot, new map
You think the yakuza game would hire good writers or make new maps every game lmao
>Life so devoid of value he self-inserts as an NPC who appeared literally once to try and validate himself via sharing the same skin colour of a man who doesn't even exist
Sad
t. Yong
>You think the yakuza game would hire good writers or make new maps every game lmao
Its actually insane that they managed to sell people the same map for 20 years. Not even like Hyrule qhere its the same in name only, its literally the same layout for like 20 yeats with some additions here and there. Its not even large maps either, they take like 3 to cross.
>Its actually insane that they managed to sell people the same map for 20 years.
It's part of the appeal
Yakuza isn't an open world game. Its tight city districts is way better than massive maps. Most of the games added new cities too.
Unfortunately they threw the compact size thing out the window with Yokohama being the size of all their previous cities put together and have only half the content of Kamurocho and apparently Hawaii is going to be 3x bigger than Yokohama.
Im not criticizing the size, im criticizing the fact that they have the same map game after game.
1 is obviously the original so Kamurocho was brand new
2 adds 2 new cities (1 was removed in Kiwami)
3 adds a new city
Kenzan takes place in an entirely different time with multiple different cities
4 expands Kamurocho a ton
5 adds 3 new cities and other small locations too
Ishin takes place in an entirely different time with a different city
0 completely remakes 2 of the main cities for the 80s time period
6 adds a new city
7 adds a new city bigger than all the others combined
Lost Judgment added a massive expansion with the school
Gaiden adds new areas
8 adds a new city bigger than all the others combined
Just because they reuse one of the locations over and over again doesn't make it bad. It's neat to see it evolve and it's central to the plot.
They're budget games. The fact that anyone considers them more than budget games is astonishing. Senran Kagura reuses like half of its maps. Kamen Rider Battride War literally reuses 80% of its content between each game and very minorly improved on player movesets each time.
Sega is AAA publisher and Yakuza is their 3rd biggest franchise after only Sonic and Football Manager. You'd think they'd show it a bit more love.
>Yakuza is their 3rd biggest franchise after only Sonic and Football Manager.
Pretty sure that's Persona.
SMT and Persona together make more money than Yakuza, but Sega considers them to be separate. From their latest earnings report, Yakuza is 3rd.
It's cause Yakuza has sold like 21 mil altogether vs Persona's 18 mil but the individual Persona games sell more than the individual Yakuza games. Persona will most likely pass Yakuza once P3R and 6 release.
Yakuza is worth more than Persona apparently
>Sega is AAA publisher
So is Squeenix. They still release World of Final Fantasy, Chocobo's Dungeon, Chocobo GP, and so on.
>and Yakuza is their 3rd biggest franchise
Only after it blew up within the past handful of years, and even then we have no solid numbers on what games are making.
>Judgment is the only game to publicly say it made a million sales and that's only on console, not PC sales added onto it.
>6 western sales equaled 6 Japanese which means roughly 800k total, again, before it even came out on PC or Xbox.
>0, K1, 6, K2, and FotNS are all Playstation Hits titles meaning they were 250k or 500k sales before 0 PC onward even came out.
>7 is apparently the best selling title in the west meaning 500k is bare minimum.
Picture related was what Japanese sales were like, and 0 only got big in the west around when 6 was coming out in Japan ending on FotNS's first two weeks of sales.
They've only just recently said they started wanting 2-3 million sales which is why we've started seeing stuff like Yokohama and Hawaii being so big, and 8 getting so much stuff and marketing surrounding it. Even then there is zero chance this is anything higher than an A budget series.
Do you actually play these games? Every game has a new city, with the exception of 4 and 0 but they tried to expand Kamurocho vertically in 4 to make it fresh. They just don't throw out the old one.
They should throwbout the old one because its been 20 years. Just make a new game. Final Fantasy does it. Like A Dragon should very much be that, it could be Segas Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy.
they have Persona for that
>They should throwbout the old one because its been 20 years
There's no reason to throw it out though? Besides, 7 already takes place mostly in Yokohama and they've been jerking off about how Honolulu is like 3x the size of Yokohama.
The reason is that is the same map every single time. Its ridiculous its holding back the franchise.
>Its ridiculous its holding back the franchise.
How is it holding it back? At this point it's like a bonus map. It's barely relevant, they just put it there for the fans. Gaiden doesn't even have it.
asianbros why do we always lose...
I like how she tried to resist, but the Americock was too powerful
Kiryu? More like Cuckryu!
i liked her not being a romantic thing
kiryu could use more straight up friends
>left for the US to pursue her dream
Why do Japs pull this shit so often?
Kaguya-sama does this too when they finally get together but then Shirogane has to leave for his big chance in the US
Better work culture and american criminals aren't as creepy as japanese ones
That's what happens when talentless hacks like Aka write themselves into a corner.
Won't forget how rushed the last 100 chapters were.
real answer is BWC, it's always BWC
Shirogane is male tho...
You know, I would thinking embracing someone when you think a bomb is about to blow the two of you to pieces would forge a stronger bond than to succumb to BWC.
Then go fuck Kiryu yourself gay lord
I keep trying, but the transfer from here to him won't be complete until I hang myself.
They have a millon games to make in the same canon, they cant have the MC have any real relationship. The story is convoluted mess now anyway.
Their romance was shit anyway. Literally shoehorned in because she was the only other fuckable piece of ass that Kiryu was tagging around with. (Outside of Haruka ofc)
I've beaten 0,3, and 4
I want to start the Yakuza series from the beginning but it seems so daunting
>4
You already played the peak.
People will say 0 is peak but they're retarded, 0 forces you to repeatedly beat the same miniboss like 40 times to afford all the skills or afk while money makes itself and do 2 seperate mobile tier minigames to completion to unlock your whole moveset
I enjoyed playing through all of them, I even platinumed 4 and was working on 3 when life happened and then I lost my ps3 and a decade passed
forgot dead souls, beat that as well
I think I'm just afraid trying to play through them all sequentially will just burn me out
Just take breaks in-between, there's nothing wrong with slowly catching up. If you just let the series sit then more and more games will get released and your motivation to catch up will keep going down.
Nah ignore this guy.
Literally just play when you feel like it. Its not rocket science. Don't worry about 'catching up', its a singleplayer series, you're not missing out on anything as time passes.
Especially since you already played by far the best games and the rest ot the series is mediocre to bad unironically.
Retard. I literally told him to take breaks in-between. I know exactly what he's going through because I went through it myself. You need some kind of motivation to jump into a 10 game series because for some people it feels daunting knowing there's so many games to play. "Just play when you feel like it" isn't as easy for everyone as it sounds.
yeah I got a bad case of burnout trying to go through them back-to-back, I never ended up finishing them. my brother though enjoyed watching me play what I managed to play and then he picked up where I left off, kinda weird but I ended up being essentially being the fag who enjoys something without experiencing it myself.
I did play Judgment recently though. It was ok.
I played 0 first, but 4 is my favorite. I tried replaying 0 for a Legend run and it's just such a slog compared to 4 (and 3 for that matter).
4 has really good story pacing (I don't care that the plot makes no sense, it's cool and fun) and the multiple character thing works a lot better than it does in 5 or 0 because they're all in the same city and cross paths constantly.
Only going from y4 to y5 is super exhausting. The rest of the games except 7 are really short so I always end up wanting more. Never bother with 100% completion.
>game expects me to feel sorry for her when she dies because she was nice to Haruka once
It's really funny that every interaction with Mirei is her being a complete and utter bitch but then they tried to shoehorn a mother/daughter relationship between her and Haruka at the last second to try and make her likeable. It's like they realized everyone would cheer for her death if they didn't try to give her some redeemable trait and they couldn't have people hating her since her death is a driving point behind the plot and Haruka's motivation.
Haruka was so likeable as a kid
I suppose its the inevitable result of milking a cow so long that they turn rancid
post yfw Saeko meets a handsome American tourist in 8
Nah
Ichiban acidentally marries a random white girl while trying to propose again to Saeko
>you can move in a circle during combat now
>this means the only RPG game Ichiban has played between 7 and 8 has been Hyperdimension Neptunia
Grim.
I 100%ed ishin.
did it hurt?
The only game you can accuse being lazy with the world map is LJ.
There's no need for the world map to be that big when 80% of the story take place in the school or outside the city. They should've made a new district around the size of Kineicho from y5.
They easily could've just used Kamurocho and had you take a taxi to the school. I hate that Yokohama was used in Lost Judgment. The fact you can take the taxi straight to the school even seems to point to it being the original idea.
It's so pointless and adding the skateboard mechanic helps, but still they had to justify moving so much from Kamurocho to Yokohama just to give it stuff to do. (Why did every major NPC move to Yokohama between the two games?)
Because they still need you to be able to visit the school's neighbourhood. Kamurocho and Sotenbori are entertainment districts, so Ijincho is their only option if they don't wanna make a new town.
>so Ijincho is their only option if they don't wanna make a new town.
Then they should've just used part of it.
Yokohama is way too big and empty and only makes sense in 7 because they needed a way to have difficulty zones. It was designed for the JRPG gameplay.
Should've used Nagasugai instead. Obviously they would've had to remake if for the Dragon Engine, but it's like a mini Yokohama, so they could just reuse most assets and put the school across one of the bridges. Comfy and much smaller, while still having all the space they need for the out of school stuff.
>Obviously they would've had to remake if for the Dragon Engine
not worth it for a cheap spinoff
>cheap spinoff
Lost Judgment was a full blown game with a larger budget than most of the main line titles. It's not like it was some 10 hour romp like Gaiden, which they made a whole new (small) city for.
Why can't female pop stars be in relationships?
Because it alienates their target audience - men who actually believe that as long as she's single, there's a possibility that they will marry them.
>We let Kiryu get cucked by BWC because he has to stay single for the minigames!
gigacope
Its true, Kyriu cant grow as a character, they wrote themselves into a corner. He always has to come back, he cant form meaningful relationships because theyvhave to wipe the slate clean for next game, etc.
Makes me wonder if they're going to do the same thing with Ichiban
I don't think they can with Ichiban, his party is coming with him
Should've gone with 4's ending. He rejoins the Tojo clan with Seijima and we move on to a new protagonist once and for all.
That's ehybthe final fantasy/dragon quest approach works better. Having all this games be in the same canon eventually makes it become ridiculous when Kiryu is pushing 60 but he has to come back for one last job, one last conspiracy, one grand adventure, that just wipes the slate clean again at the end getting ready for the next last time (this time for real)
>Y5 Park
>Idol end
>complete flanderization of the main bad guy(s)
>kiryu "dies"
Y5's endgame is the only one that actually pissed me off.
Made worse by the early and mid game actually being really great.
The only good chapter in Yakuza 5 is Kiryu's intro though. The rest of it is just massive amounts of padding.
reminder
this dork wears pink panties, it's in the game files
What's Ran's panties in the game files? inb4 no pants
Just give me Judgement 3. They can call is last judgement or final judgement or whatever. I don't care about the mainline games anymore.
This. Fuck JRPG bullshit. I played 7, by the end I even felt like I was enjoying the combat, but then I played Lost Judgment and realized, I'd still have preferred 7 to be a brawler.
It doesn't look like 8 is really going to improve on 7 that much either.
You WILL get Kiwami 3 and you WILL be happy.
ON UNREAL ENGINE 5!
3 is by far the worst mainline game in terms of actually enjoying the gameplay so I mean, fuck it why not, let's see how a Kiwami 3 turns out
After the actor issues they had i had doubt a 3 was happening. Acter the recent controversy in Japan with the agency im very sure its not happening. Look it up, its bad.
You didn't mention her being a Secret Korean
How much priority should I put into buying the "get more Akame points" or "Abilities cost less Akame points" shit in Gaiden?
Money is very easy to get once you get to the colliseum so get the upgrades asap.
get both
coliseum is just free infinite money
Idols owe me sex.
>>game expects me to feel sorry for her when she dies because she was nice to Haruka once
does it REALLY expect this?
the characters act like she was some kind of guardian angel who was uplifting Haruka into success
>"Guys im totally Joryu trust me who tf is this Kiryu dude"
>still sings under Kiryu Kazuma in karaoke
he doesn't though
>dying girlfriend tells him everything bad that has ever happened to her was the result of running away
>Kiryu runs away every chance he gets
wtf is his problem?
The cancer made him forget.
>wtf is his problem?
Autism. I think Kiryu is one of the only video game protagonists with autism. Must be why Ganker loves this series so much.
he was my favorite villain of the series at the time, until his mental faculties completely shut down and he became a drooling retard that trusted in Kido for absolutely no reason, and also acted like a little bitch when Yasuko SLOWLY walked up to him
i find yakuza games to be boring...
i couldnt finish 0
its just like gta and the fights are not ineresting
>its just like gta
Yeah. It's just weeb GTA. I don't get the appeal. WHOA you can steal cars, beat up people, and rob banks, BUT NOW IN JAPAN?!?! WOOOOAAA!
Yakuza is nothing like GTA
It's literary GTA: Japan but people cope with the fact that the series does not have as many features and gameplay mechanics as GTA (due to time, budget and talent) hence why "it's not identical to GTA", which misses the entire point of similarities.
Everything in GTA has seamless flow since the 3rd game, you don't need a loading screen into a mini-game to ride a car, you don't need to wait 5 seconds for the combat engine to load your random encounter, you don't need to load into a secluded area to do some shitty parkour mini-game like in LJ. Things just happen seamlessly in GTA because it was mostly designed and programmed by competent people instead of mush brain overworked japs that had to make hacky add-ons for your character to fucking jump and grab a ledge after 20 annual sequels.
I still don't understand how it's GTA. In GTA you have the freedom to play with the world. Yakuza is a story and minigame focused game. It's not open world, it doesn't have driving (outside of a minigame in 5), it doesn't allow you to fuck with random pedestrians or do anything to the world around you. It's not a crime sandbox like GTA.
it's nothing like gta
>literally
shut the fuck up retard
Shogi is such a meme
I fucking hate this shit
kill the people that invented this worthless game
>Unironically trying to play shogi in a Yakuza game.
I hope you realize even the easiest AI are way overtuned while the hardest AI can match grandmaster level AI.
If you're not in either 7 or LJ (Whichever one requires actually playing games) just go to Youtube, type in "<Game name> challenge 1 shogi" and repeat it five times. You're done with shogi. On the game that requires it for 100% just download Shogidokoro with SpearShogi and have the AI play against itself, or grab a mobile shogi app and have it play against that. The mobile app is usually faster.
I didn't much care for Haruka, she's okay at best and insufferable at times but her climax costumes in 5 were hot as fuck.
>the exceptionally short skirt of the hatsune miku costume
>the mod that makes it usable in normal gameplay
Bueno.
Those fuckers knew what they were doing
speaking of e-celebs why isn't dsp playing this
he is unfortunately
Someya is a fascinating character to me. The man is a scumbag through and through, to the point that he has extremely few positive qualities. And yet despite that, I still feel bad for him when he dies because of how he dies, giving his own life pointlessly to protect the woman he never stopped loving. Someone he knows still holds hate for him and he accepts that hatred because he knows he fucked up, he believes he deserves what happened, and he vowed he would not fail as a father like he did as a husband. That for all his scumbaggery there was one truly noble thing about him still in there.
>it's OK when men do it
Park is literally the same, but nobody cares about her death because she redeemed herself with one good deed.
Park is not the same. She doesn't die in a noble sacrifice out of love, she randomly gets killed via happenstance because of a bigger plot that she isn't actually part of.
Except 5 constantly wants you to see Park as a good person even though she isn't. They don't do that with Someya, they go out of their way to show how much he's changed from back when he first met Kiyomi and his death is supposed to be the last bit of what's good in him shining through.
Yes, they are both bad people with good qualities under the surface, but how the games portray them couldn't be more different.
haruka was kawaii in 3/4/DS
they ruined her face in 5 imo
Everyone's faces got fucked up in 5. Why do they all look like they're crying? Why are the pores of the male faces so massive?
at least they tried making kiryu look old in 5
he looks 20 again in Gaiden and even Infinite Wealth
Yeah, Dragon Engine de-aged everyone, while 5/0 made everyone look old. Kiryu looks older in 0 than he does in 6-8 despite the supposed 40 year age gap.
I blame the RIZAP promo in 6
>RIZAP
What the fuck were they thinking? They got rid of bowling for this?!
Bowling's never coming back is it?
The IRL bowling alley shut down, so they got rid of it in game.
Funny you don't see them doing the same thing with Club Sega despite it being gone IRL.
Didn't that Club SEGA in Kabukicho not shut down until covid?
Yes, but Club Sega is still in Lost Judgment, and it's in 8 too.
I think it's still an arcade IRL, it's just not a Club Sega anymore because Sega sold off all their arcades.
I think sega is pulling out of the arcade industry entirely. They'll probably keep them around in game since sega owns them. Arcades are dying in Japan even after COVID.
didn't it just move across the street or am i thinking of the one in akiba
sega getting out of the arcade business is sad though
the SEGA branding only went away after 2022 and LJ which is like the latest game was in 2021
unless you mean the kabukicho location specifically
Pool eventually made a comeback so maybe there's a chance, though if it was in 8 they would've shown it by now
Someya also got two super good boss themes, that helps
>Why are the pores of the male faces so massive?
Because grafics.
god I remember thinking 5 looked amazing back in the day
The daytime lighting of the PS3 games is still miles better compared to the Dragon Engine games. I don't get how they fail to get it right time and time again.
day lighting must be hard
not even unreal did it right
the main reason i thought it was because 5 was using an updated engine I don't think any other game used (maybe Ishin?)
The engine in 5 was also used for Ishin, 0 and Kiwami, but 0 and Kiwami were made with the PS4 in mind, so they have better textures and more assets and run at 75% scale on PS3 (and they didn't even bother with PS3 releases outside of Japan.)
Ishin, 0, K1, and FotNS all use 5's engine.
>but 0 and Kiwami were made with the PS4 in mind
Ishin was as well seeing as they had a talk on how they achieved 60 FPS in it.
They should've stuck with the old engine. The graphics are good enough and that 60fps on PS4 is something else. All action games should be 60fps. Meanwhile Yakuza 6 could barely run at all.
Eh, it was getting pretty dated in looks by PS3 standards by the time it came out. But this was never a series people looked to for cutting-edge graphics.
Not spoiling Gaiden but these dumb fucking plot twists and predictable Joryu behavior has me fucking anxious as fuck for Infinite wealth so I could go back to playing as ichiban and not having to deal with orphanage / haruka
I wil get to Gaiden eventually, I'm sure nothing happens in it that's truly vital for 8.
as far as ive gotten into it its just explaining what happened to kiryu and what lead him to Arakawa
>and what lead him to Arakawa
What? They never even interact.
well to help out with his plans I mean. Im not trying to spoil it because I know there probably are people here who havent played 7
He helps out with Watase's plan. He doesn't help Arakawa with anything.
I bet that homosexual started with 7
same difference they are both part of it
>same difference
not at all - you make it sound like joryu was involved with arakawa's betrayal plot
>Arakawa
wut
What plot twists? IMO Gaiden is pretty straight forward. I think it's hilarious that everyone knows he's Kiryu, and he keeps larping.
>didn't like the ending with the kids as adults
kys 0fag
Yeah I will say as much as I found Gaiden's story enjoyable I'm not exactly looking forward to Kiryu's sections in 8 since I like Kasuga way more
Hanawa and Yoshimura are not face actor characters and their ends imply they could come back but that's kinda it
Face actor characters (in this case Tsuruno, Shishido, Nishitani, Akame) coming back isn't impossible now but I still feel they're designed so that they don't have to most of the time
I like the dragon engine, I just don't like how it inherently changes how combat works and feels. But as an actual engine, how it affects the way characters look and walking around and shit, I'm down with that
>Park sees Haruka, believes Haruka is her diamond in the rough she can live vicariously through
>Park goes through Akiyama's tests, humiliating herself and ultimately ending her career to satisfy his retarded bullshit
>Since this is her last chance in the idol business, pours her heart into Haruka's training
>Gets killed by a dancer she stiffed
>Dies thinking that Haruka is still going to make it to the big stage and beyond
>Haruka fucking quits halfway through the set and runs away
Park must be spinning in her grave.
Plus like Park, part of what kills her career is getting knocked up as a teenager by a yakuza.
Park was 100% planning to kill herself once Haruka performed at the Tokyo Dome
I miss the absolutely wonky ass physics of old dragon engine games.
I miss running headlong into a random encounter and instantly ending it with the dropkick, nerfing that shit for K2 was a crime
some of the ragdolls are still okay
beautiful ass
I mean, it's pretty nice
Guys, forgive me, i thought i was a Big Boy but the scene where Kiryu sees the hidden spy camera footage broke me.
It was sad, but he brought all this upon himself by being a combatsexual.
Waiting on the English dub so I can experience the scene with full Yong Yea ludokino.
oh god I'm guessing it was so bad it's the reason they delayed the dub
all the kids have jobs so why does the tiny orphanage need funding
preasu understando, kiryu needs motivation to be whipped
It doesn't "need" it, Kiryu just literally doesn't have anything else to live for
yo that girl got cute af
>Taichi's face when Ojisan is a fucking retard that instead of just accepting the bribe decided to go live in with the Daidoji instead
why didn't he accept the bribe bros
>YUTA YOU SHOULD BE THE FATHER YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR SHADY PAST MEANS NOTHING
>btw kids i have to go and never see you all again
How many people here figured out Yuta was the father right away for no other reason than the fact that he was the only handsome person in the group?
I figured it out because he's voiced by the same actor as Rikiya and he's basically Rikiya 2.0, and this means that Kiryu basically gets to have Rikiya as a son
HE NEEDED THEM MORE THAN THEY NEEDED HIM ;_;
Considering how much Kiryu says he loves the orphanage and the kids and how he conviniently always as an excuse to bail out, youd think he's melanin enriched individual.
Remember Ganker, baseball is the most important and sacred sport in the universe.
Shame that minigame in 6 is so unfun to play compared to 5's batting cages.
STEP UP
I like to imagine this is Yong Yea's daily attire now.
probably
I was under the impression that the Ryudo family was looking out for the orphanage in Kiryu's absence
Gaiden starts off so fucking slow, but man the ending bits make it worth it.
The best parts of 6 are the parts when we aren't focusing on the mystery and it's just Kiryu learning to be a grandfather, change my mind.
the best part of 6 was getting into fights inside restaurants and stores
This. The best thing the Dragon Engine did was have seamless interiors.
It's a shame there's very few fights that will start indoors, you have to throw their ass through the window or run in and get them to follow you to have a fight in there
Yeah. Even 3 and 4 had that near the MEN stores even if it was a scripted thing.
I did like jumping out the window of the detective agency in Judgment instead of taking the elevator.
The best part of 6 is throwing people in combat (when it works).
It usually does work, it's just that as much as people overuse the work, 6's combat is the definition of clunky, even more than 3's.
the word*
It's the physics, the game actually having weight and physics means the combat fucking falls apart when it wouldn't before.
>they made this nutjob an agent
why can't these games have good writing like pic rel
wtf the story in ragnarok was awful