Yes, and considering there was a thread filled with unironic retards defending drinking and driving, I do think we need more media that tries to teach some basic shit
Kojima is such a brainlet. >Genes don't matter
They 100% do, a chad will always be a chad regardless of riches or rags, and will be respected. A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO. >Nukes bad
Ok hes onto somethi- >because Hiroshima was awful
Childish pathos. Nukes are bad because they put superpowers that should be st war for dominance in an eternal stalemate. >War bad
Limpwristed opinion. Humanity evolves through war, and nukes have denied us almost a century of evolution.
No way that's real, how can japnaggers be this insecure? >After World War II, Japan underwent a period of post-war reconstruction and rapid industrialization. This period saw the rise of technology and a fascination with machines and robotics. The experience of rebuilding and modernizing the country influenced the development of mecha as a symbol of Japan's technological prowess.
do people really think nuking japan was awful? It saved more American (and Japanese) lives than it took. Do people not understand the cost of a land invasion?
Despite being near an American coast with American cities full of American civilians the big bad evil Japanese attacked a military base and only a military base. The Americans decided to retaliate by bombing 3 major Japanese cities that had no military bases thus killing Japanese civilians for no reason. >muh Japanese honor they would've fought forever!
War was already ending and Hitler's allies were all destroyed or surrendered. There was no way for Japan to continue fighting like they were.
Fun fact: the emperor didn't surrender after the first bomb because he couldn't. So the second bomb was entirely pointless and there would've been a third one if the Japanese didn't manage to get the surrender message out on time.
In the real world the USA used Pearl Harbor as an excuse to show off its nuclear capability in the hopes that it would stop the Soviets and any European warmonger from attacking the USA or its allies.
Yes. It's either one of these options: >civilians should be spared from war as much as possible (which is what the Japanese did by limiting their attack to Pearl Harbor) in this case nuking cities full of civilians with no military bases was disproportionate and inhumane
Or >soldiers and civilians are equally valuable as human beings thus nuking entire cities to send a message to the Soviets was disproportionate and inhumane
Pick your poison. Only Americans keep pretending like that nuking housewives and rice farmers was somehow the only way to end a war against a small army (that was already weakened due to their attacks on China and participation on WWII) in a small island in the middle of nowhere.
Then again, these are the same "people" that trust their government after they lied about WMD and sent thousands of young Americans to die for no other reason than the president's personal vendetta and the profit of a handful of corporations.
>civilians should be spared from war as much as possible
Yep, sparing civilians, thats totally Imperial Japan alright.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
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Why do the same westerners that destroyed China by a gunboat "diplomacy" enforced drug epidemic, and the same westerners that to this day are forcing their colonialist legacy on China, keep feigning humanitarian outrage over how poorly the japs treated them during WWII? What compels such disgusting hypocrisy? Centuries of treating the Chinese like subhuman cattle that continues to this day and yet when it comes to keeping Japan whipped all of a sudden you pretend to care about the heckin wholesome chinerinos.
>gets conscripted >gets deployed to the frontlines >some fat retard commander commands you to die while he is stationed in some comfy base miles away from the active battle >brainlets think this is evolution
Lmao You are so much of a retard to think war has anything to do with evolution. Humans aren't selected based on evolutionary traits but selected based on social status. You can be a dumb fuck but born into wealth and you can still live lile a king. Look at the most celebs. Most of them are dumb as fuck and they don't even look hat attractive either yet they are going to survive more than your genetic lineage due to having more accumulated wealth. There are so many actual smart and good looking people that have shittier lives than most billionaires and celebs. Life is all about circlejerking to what is currently deemed to be the norm. A universal evolutionary system doesn't exist.
>They 100% do, a chad will always be a chad regardless of riches or rags, and will be respected. A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO. >Limpwristed opinion. Humanity evolves through war, and nukes have denied us almost a century of evolution.
lol lmao
have you ever played peace walker? or mgs1? also, no, genes do not matter barely as much as you think they do, incel. you can have mediocre genes and be autistic yet live a fulfilling life, especially if you move to another country.
the only way you can make the argument that man evolves through war is one based on technological development but you're not going to do that so you're stupid and wrong
don't matter >They 100% do
They don't. Despite being having the """better genes""" the Germans, Austrians and Poles have done nothing for humanity in all of humanity's history. Hitler was a retard.
All the real evolution came from the Mediterranean, the Arabs and the North Americans; all of these areas with big cultural (and thus genetic) exchanges. In fact Asia was a backwards shithole while it was closed to the rest of the world just like African tribes are. >A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO
You're using genetics to explain a social phenomenon. On primates being an "alpha" or a "beta" are merely social classifications and in fact "beta" males become physically "alpha" after defeating an alpha male in combat. >Nukes are bad because they put superpowers that should be st war for dominance in an eternal stalemate.
...and the fact that it puts the lives of billions not innocent living beings in jeopardy to the whims of a very small select group of politicians with their own agendas. Also other small governments and paramilitary groups can (and probably have) nukes which makes this issue hundreds of times worse. >Humanity evolves through war
European moment. Notice how Europe stopped being a shithole once they stopped warmongering. Notice how right now the countries at war are all shitholes while the areas that have been at peace for the past 80 years are all light years ahead both socially and technologically.
Genes matter and those people have done a lot for the humanity especially in the modern age which has shaped the world that is today. You are right about the rest though.
Your entire "philosophy" boils down to you being a weakling hoping that those stronger than you kill others and have mercy on you. The only strength you could ever possibly cultivate through collectivism, you dismiss out of sheer teenage individualistic nihilism. You are genuinely the lowest form of life.
>Limpwristed opinion. Humanity evolves through war, and nukes have denied us almost a century of evolution.
Did you see how much technology advanced in those years? >They 100% do, a chad will always be a chad regardless of riches or rags, and will be respected. A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO.
lmao
I always had this feeling Americans would be far less of warhawks if conflict they participated in were on their doorsteps. They have no idea what an actual war is compared to, for example, what happened during the Yugoslav Wars on the Balkans where you had no idea if your house would still be there in morning.
There's only been a few times when war even approached their doorstep and all it did was make them more hawkish. If anything it would make them turbohawks.
By MGS4 it is not simply "war is bad", it is that war itself has become a form of pure exchange value, it is purely a business where sides fight for the sake of the profits of private business, with no higher meaning and it must continue endlessly for the sake of private profit. It is pure nihilism. It is the logical conclusion of Big Boss's worldview and why he was such a bad person. All this is made extremely clear in the game's introduction. MGS4 has an anti capitalist message
None of these are conscious narrative ideas around which the series is structured. You're trying to recontextualise as a coping mechanism. The reality is that Kojima is a retarded manchild incapable of thinking about higher concepts in a realistic manner, and any thematic vonnections you make in his game are a coincidence of him throwing together a bunch of tropes he's internalised through years of consuming Hollywood schlock. There are no ideas in MGS, it's a collage of memes that you are desperately trying to make sense of.
Only retards don't understand the contextualization between those two quotes. Fallout is referencing the fact that the consequences and ultimate net result of war never changes, where as MGS is noting the escalation of violence and cruelty of war caused by technological development. These are probably the same retards that shout "hurr, politics have always been in games", not understanding the difference between subtle political undertones in games vs heavy handed hit-you-over-the-head moral posturing in games.
So why are we getting more frequent and bigger conflagrations as the voices that preach the "virtues" of war (peace through strength) recede further and further into the background while the "this isn't our war" crowd gets louder and louder?
Why didn't the Vietnamese chicken come to roost, arguably the worst mistake of the so-called neocon era, and instead became one of the strongest partners with the United States?
The vietnam conflict was resolved before neoconservatism became the dominant approach to foreign policy but i also don't know enough about vietnam to know why they're cosy with the US at the moment. my guess is because of whatever issue they still have with China
Suck my le dick
OP BTFO.
Yes, and considering there was a thread filled with unironic retards defending drinking and driving, I do think we need more media that tries to teach some basic shit
>Yes, and considering there was a thread filled with unironic retards defending drinking and driving
Link to thread? I want to read this now
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/656556021/
thanks
What a fucking retard, god damn
Hope he continues and finds himself wrapped around a tree like a scarf
Isn't there enough basic bitches in existence already? Why do you need more?
If that's all you got out of it you're a brainlet
anon be like
>war is le good
That's pretty much every metal gear game since Metal Gear 1 on the MX.
Kojima is such a brainlet.
>Genes don't matter
They 100% do, a chad will always be a chad regardless of riches or rags, and will be respected. A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO.
>Nukes bad
Ok hes onto somethi-
>because Hiroshima was awful
Childish pathos. Nukes are bad because they put superpowers that should be st war for dominance in an eternal stalemate.
>War bad
Limpwristed opinion. Humanity evolves through war, and nukes have denied us almost a century of evolution.
>Childish pathos. Nukes are bad because they put superpowers that should be st war for dominance in an eternal stalemate.
Ok edge lord
t. scrawny homosexual who'd be dead 2 weeks into a war
*flys drone around making airplane noises* speak up jackass, I can't hear you from all the way up here in the 21st century.
>retard seriously think he will be flying drones instead of digging trenches
Sheltered west kiddies delusions of war are always so cute.
>trenches
Get a load of this boomer.
>digging trenches a continent away
you're one of those retards who think there will ever be a draft in the US again aren't you?
Shut the fuck up or you're gonna summon the romanian who spams webms of russians being killed by drones.
>implying he would pass the medical
>not failing the psychological examination
ishygddt
It's the same thing with mecha homosexualry: "MECHA WAS BORN BECAUSE LE JAPARINOS HATED ATOMIC BOMBS FRYING THEIR YELLOW ASSES"
No way that's real, how can japnaggers be this insecure?
>After World War II, Japan underwent a period of post-war reconstruction and rapid industrialization. This period saw the rise of technology and a fascination with machines and robotics. The experience of rebuilding and modernizing the country influenced the development of mecha as a symbol of Japan's technological prowess.
do people really think nuking japan was awful? It saved more American (and Japanese) lives than it took. Do people not understand the cost of a land invasion?
Japs certainly hate it.
Understandable. No one WANTS to get nuked.
Nukes are more ethical than any other weapon of war.
Tell that to the indigenous people who had their islands blown to shit because of muh testing
Everyone I've seen who cries about it is European though.
Two nukes weren't enough.
I don't care about Amerilards
Despite being near an American coast with American cities full of American civilians the big bad evil Japanese attacked a military base and only a military base. The Americans decided to retaliate by bombing 3 major Japanese cities that had no military bases thus killing Japanese civilians for no reason.
>muh Japanese honor they would've fought forever!
War was already ending and Hitler's allies were all destroyed or surrendered. There was no way for Japan to continue fighting like they were.
Fun fact: the emperor didn't surrender after the first bomb because he couldn't. So the second bomb was entirely pointless and there would've been a third one if the Japanese didn't manage to get the surrender message out on time.
In the real world the USA used Pearl Harbor as an excuse to show off its nuclear capability in the hopes that it would stop the Soviets and any European warmonger from attacking the USA or its allies.
>its okay to kill those people
>B-but not those people!!
Live by the sword die by the sword. Soldiers are not people.
Yes. It's either one of these options:
>civilians should be spared from war as much as possible (which is what the Japanese did by limiting their attack to Pearl Harbor) in this case nuking cities full of civilians with no military bases was disproportionate and inhumane
Or
>soldiers and civilians are equally valuable as human beings thus nuking entire cities to send a message to the Soviets was disproportionate and inhumane
Pick your poison. Only Americans keep pretending like that nuking housewives and rice farmers was somehow the only way to end a war against a small army (that was already weakened due to their attacks on China and participation on WWII) in a small island in the middle of nowhere.
Then again, these are the same "people" that trust their government after they lied about WMD and sent thousands of young Americans to die for no other reason than the president's personal vendetta and the profit of a handful of corporations.
>civilians should be spared from war as much as possible
Yep, sparing civilians, thats totally Imperial Japan alright.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
Why do the same westerners that destroyed China by a gunboat "diplomacy" enforced drug epidemic, and the same westerners that to this day are forcing their colonialist legacy on China, keep feigning humanitarian outrage over how poorly the japs treated them during WWII? What compels such disgusting hypocrisy? Centuries of treating the Chinese like subhuman cattle that continues to this day and yet when it comes to keeping Japan whipped all of a sudden you pretend to care about the heckin wholesome chinerinos.
moron, the US had no intention of any invasion.
>gets conscripted
>gets deployed to the frontlines
>some fat retard commander commands you to die while he is stationed in some comfy base miles away from the active battle
>brainlets think this is evolution
Lmao You are so much of a retard to think war has anything to do with evolution. Humans aren't selected based on evolutionary traits but selected based on social status. You can be a dumb fuck but born into wealth and you can still live lile a king. Look at the most celebs. Most of them are dumb as fuck and they don't even look hat attractive either yet they are going to survive more than your genetic lineage due to having more accumulated wealth. There are so many actual smart and good looking people that have shittier lives than most billionaires and celebs. Life is all about circlejerking to what is currently deemed to be the norm. A universal evolutionary system doesn't exist.
>They 100% do, a chad will always be a chad regardless of riches or rags, and will be respected. A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO.
>Limpwristed opinion. Humanity evolves through war, and nukes have denied us almost a century of evolution.
lol lmao
>he believes in evolution
ngmi
go back to school
have you ever played peace walker? or mgs1? also, no, genes do not matter barely as much as you think they do, incel. you can have mediocre genes and be autistic yet live a fulfilling life, especially if you move to another country.
the only way you can make the argument that man evolves through war is one based on technological development but you're not going to do that so you're stupid and wrong
don't matter
>They 100% do
They don't. Despite being having the """better genes""" the Germans, Austrians and Poles have done nothing for humanity in all of humanity's history. Hitler was a retard.
All the real evolution came from the Mediterranean, the Arabs and the North Americans; all of these areas with big cultural (and thus genetic) exchanges. In fact Asia was a backwards shithole while it was closed to the rest of the world just like African tribes are.
>A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO
You're using genetics to explain a social phenomenon. On primates being an "alpha" or a "beta" are merely social classifications and in fact "beta" males become physically "alpha" after defeating an alpha male in combat.
>Nukes are bad because they put superpowers that should be st war for dominance in an eternal stalemate.
...and the fact that it puts the lives of billions not innocent living beings in jeopardy to the whims of a very small select group of politicians with their own agendas. Also other small governments and paramilitary groups can (and probably have) nukes which makes this issue hundreds of times worse.
>Humanity evolves through war
European moment. Notice how Europe stopped being a shithole once they stopped warmongering. Notice how right now the countries at war are all shitholes while the areas that have been at peace for the past 80 years are all light years ahead both socially and technologically.
Genes matter and those people have done a lot for the humanity especially in the modern age which has shaped the world that is today. You are right about the rest though.
Your entire "philosophy" boils down to you being a weakling hoping that those stronger than you kill others and have mercy on you. The only strength you could ever possibly cultivate through collectivism, you dismiss out of sheer teenage individualistic nihilism. You are genuinely the lowest form of life.
>Limpwristed opinion. Humanity evolves through war, and nukes have denied us almost a century of evolution.
Did you see how much technology advanced in those years?
>They 100% do, a chad will always be a chad regardless of riches or rags, and will be respected. A beta will barely get respect even as a CEO.
lmao
You can be a chad and an unlovable autistic loser with no self esteem which is attractive to exactly
nobody
I always had this feeling Americans would be far less of warhawks if conflict they participated in were on their doorsteps. They have no idea what an actual war is compared to, for example, what happened during the Yugoslav Wars on the Balkans where you had no idea if your house would still be there in morning.
There's only been a few times when war even approached their doorstep and all it did was make them more hawkish. If anything it would make them turbohawks.
What you need to do is make sure the house has a foundation and is firmly fixed to the ground, that way it can't get up and leave.
By MGS4 it is not simply "war is bad", it is that war itself has become a form of pure exchange value, it is purely a business where sides fight for the sake of the profits of private business, with no higher meaning and it must continue endlessly for the sake of private profit. It is pure nihilism. It is the logical conclusion of Big Boss's worldview and why he was such a bad person. All this is made extremely clear in the game's introduction. MGS4 has an anti capitalist message
None of these are conscious narrative ideas around which the series is structured. You're trying to recontextualise as a coping mechanism. The reality is that Kojima is a retarded manchild incapable of thinking about higher concepts in a realistic manner, and any thematic vonnections you make in his game are a coincidence of him throwing together a bunch of tropes he's internalised through years of consuming Hollywood schlock. There are no ideas in MGS, it's a collage of memes that you are desperately trying to make sense of.
>Anon gives a correct meaningful examination of MSG4
>Kojima haters can't even dispute it and have to resort to baseless insults
>War...war never changes.
Imagine being shorter than a jap lmao
LOL!
Only retards don't understand the contextualization between those two quotes. Fallout is referencing the fact that the consequences and ultimate net result of war never changes, where as MGS is noting the escalation of violence and cruelty of war caused by technological development. These are probably the same retards that shout "hurr, politics have always been in games", not understanding the difference between subtle political undertones in games vs heavy handed hit-you-over-the-head moral posturing in games.
>Politics...politics never changes.
>le war..... Le war never changes!
So why are we getting more frequent and bigger conflagrations as the voices that preach the "virtues" of war (peace through strength) recede further and further into the background while the "this isn't our war" crowd gets louder and louder?
the short answer is that lots of chickens are coming home to roost
Why didn't the Vietnamese chicken come to roost, arguably the worst mistake of the so-called neocon era, and instead became one of the strongest partners with the United States?
The vietnam conflict was resolved before neoconservatism became the dominant approach to foreign policy but i also don't know enough about vietnam to know why they're cosy with the US at the moment. my guess is because of whatever issue they still have with China
The Vietnamese still hate the Americans just like the Koreans still hate the Japanese. Right now they all have a common enemy: China.
That's why all of them are allies right now.
Brain capacity of a zoomer
I say we should give war a chance
>t. Sundowner
you would think war is bad too if you kept getting your ass handed to you.