Was it a good tweest? Were your expectations subverted?

Was it a good tweest? Were your expectations subverted?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not really. I like his berserk griffith outfit thing though when he puts his persona mask on.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this is subtle writing in gaming
    Probably fits the fan base and how dialogue is incredibly blatant and straight forward. Train your fans with repeating yourself three times when you want them to remember something plot related, and they'll just glaze over a line or two of thousands.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that wasn't the subtle writing. the subtle writing was what alludes to that later on

      did you feel smart pontificating in the persona thread

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the subtle writing was what alludes to that later on
        Him telling the others when he got his powers wasn't subtle at all, him being a traitor was never meant to be subtle anyway, everyone called him Adachi 2.0 before the game even released.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not a single persona fan would tell you the games have subtle writing KEK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually completely missed this foreshadowing.

      And I also had to go online and read threads about how Joker's "death" made any sense. I still think it didn't.

      Am I possibly moronic?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're probably a bit moronic. Joker's "death" is explained and makes sense within the rules of the Metaverse, what makes the plan fall apart is how it relies on there being no checks for Joker or the dead guard after Akechi finishes his job.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was a red herring because of how obvious it is and was actually angry when it turned out to be the actual "twist", felt like the game was treating me like a 60 IQ moron

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, it was made mainly for highschoolers in mind. Though I played it when I was like 24

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, it was made mainly for highschoolers in mind. Though I played it when I was like 24

      It wasn't the actual twist you fricking morons. The twist was that the team knew all along and played him.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well is that twist good?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, it falls apart when you think about it, but it sure is entertaining the first time you play the game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The twist on them tricking Akechi is good, the lengths that the rules of the metaverse bends to allow the Phantom Thieves to trick Akechi is pretty bad since it relies on too much coincidences.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not really a twist either since the protag gets shot in the fricking head. It's not like the game was going to end there. I will admit I thought I got a bad ending at first though, but once it kept dragging out I was like "oh, eh"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same here. It was so blatantly in my face that I couldn't actually believe it when it happened.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the twist wasnt him being a traitor, it was the rest of the cast knowing the whole time and setting him up. outside of japan a lot of the intentions for akechi fell flat due to cultural context. i saw some video from a jap that his name is literally the name of an iconic japanese traitor character and there was some other unsubtle stuff. it was never meant to be subtle but there wasnt a way to effectively translate that into english or other languages in general

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They couldn't have called him Slytongue Traitorguy?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      should clarify this isnt me saying its a good twist either way, i dont think it being intentionally obvious and badly set up means its actually good, just that there was intention behind it and it sort of gets lost outside the original language

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I felt that was kind of a neat way to handle criticism from P4.
      In Persona 4, it's so easy to spoil the game for someone. Just say 4 little words, "Adachi is the killer" and you ruined the whole plot.
      In P5, Akechi being the traitor is obvious, the real twist is how does Joker get out of his predicament. good luck trying to spoil that to someone. "Well you see, people have cognizant worlds, you can bring someone into it with a text message, so they sent a message to..."
      You need at minimum a paragraph in order to spoil P5.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Futaba even said that it's complicated to explain when she tried to bring it up to Sojiro and Sae and explain it to you when you talk to her in the attic so that's believable. ATLUS at least did a good job to make that scenario spoiler free as much as the could.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a tweest because it's like 2 lines of dialogue you forget about because the tweest happens like 40 fricking hours of gameplay later. They could have been more subtle about it by not repeating exactly what Morgana says but eh.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That may be true but it is a lot better than what they did with P3 at the beginning when Thanatos was released from the MC. People would not question what happened because the reveal was 60 hours in. I was like "who is this and what am I supposed to feel?" I didn't realize that supposed twist until I replayed it in NG+ at least In P5 they mentioned a "traitor" a few times to keep your memory a bit fresh and rack your brain to question who was it and what is going on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. The game drowns you with dialogue and this scene is already like 40 hours in. I wasn’t exactly playing close attention to it.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a twist for the sake of having a twist. The game wasn't interested in tricking Akechi, it was more invested in tricking the players. The entire game's narrative is established to be from the MC's perspective... except anything that has to do with le sick twist.

    And immediately after the reveal 50 hours after the initial encounter in the OP, we have a scene where the two main villains explain to each other their own plans, with no one else listening, it was just the two of them talking to each other gloating about how great their plan was, just to get the players up to speed.

    This is also the third, fourth time that P Studio has done this exact same plot point in their games.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was spoiled with this twist due to my dumbass looking up the bad ends and reading the comments but I did not expect him to be the deuteragonist. I find his first persona a lot more likable since it's less edgy with Loki.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Akechi himself being evil? No, it was a terrible "twist" because you see a guy look exactly like him in the UFO and it was obvious that it was him. The fact that the group knew he also Owned a Purse because he mentioned pancakes when only Morgana did? Eh, I actually think that is fine. I'll admit that I didn't pay much attention to the line at the time, and even if I did you have like 100 hours of VN to go through before it is brought up again.
    However, what was dumb is the whole convoluted plan of making a copy of Joker to get shot by activating the Akechi's phone and all that other weird ridiculous shit.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate how they rushed his arc even though base P5 is like 110 hours long. Is there even a point to his betrayal when he's put down almost immediately?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    P5 is pretty much a vibes/rule of cool game because the vanilla story is messy as hell

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Akechi being the traitor was never the twist

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The twist is PT knowing he's a bad guy, which is shit because devs use the excuse of MC being drugged but only forgetting specific details to pull the gotcha.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew he was a traitor because of how obvious it was. But I took this dialogue as just being a weirdo.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I completely missed that it was only Morgana who used the word "pancake", so I thought it was pretty neat. It also made me feel stupid for not picking up on it immediately.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >traitor betrays you and then immediately loses
    Did they learn nothing from how they messed up Ikutsuki?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No it was not.
    P5 sucks compared to prior persona games.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do Japanese videogame antagonists always have the worst motivations?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do Japanese videogame antagonists always have the worst motivations?

      But Shido has good motivation though. Modern Japan is a nation of hikko homosexuals, and Shido was going to return the rising sun to glorious Nioppon to destroy the American devil pigdogs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Arrested trying to overthrow the government.
        I mean, he was an butthole but was he that bad as the game try to make him to be?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was going to ruin the country to enrich himself and his political allies actually, the game spells this out for you. You seem like some kind of Emperor dicksuck that should Mishima yourself

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Found one of Japan's 100 million hikkomori homosexuals, Ganker

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Read the history of what happens to imperialist gayboys in Japan

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Slump over dead in front of your rented computer at an internet cafe, hikko.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      P5 is especially bad because it doesn't even bother to mention any of Shido's goals, just that he wanted to take charge

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's a politician. What goals would he have other than trying to rule a country with an iron fist.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it doesn't even bother to mention any of Shido's goals

        He wants to re create imperial Japan and make the country strong and sovereign again and then this time beat America in world war 3.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds based to me and I ain't even Japanese.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They could have done way more work on his crazy costume when he reveals his true self.
    The crotch area is like some weird ass designer shart. Joker's outfit has some love put into it. Akechi's is a middle schooler's idea of edgy. I guess maybe that's what they were going for? It looks ass, anyway.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They could have done way more work on his crazy costume when he reveals his true self.
      >The crotch area

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was blatantly obvious to me

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God no, it was an awful twist.
    Any twist that requires the protagonist to hide something from the player/viewer is bad writing. The protagonist is supposed to be the audience's viewpoint. They might have a past and future we never see, but within the confines of the plot we should know everything the protagonist does. Otherwise you create a huge disconnect.
    Aside from that, Akechi is a terrible villain. He had a decent dynamic with the Phantom Thieves originally, he had legitimate critiques of their methods. Post-twist he is just a mustache twirling bad guy with zero nuance (aside from daddy issues, but instead of going after Shido he does everything he wants). Also, after the twist you get arguably the worst scene in the entire game where Akechi and Shido have to spell our their evil plan in incredibly clunky expository dialogue.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Any twist that requires the protagonist to hide something from the player/viewer is bad writing
      kaede momento

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        V3 is a special case because it's intentionally stupid. It's a cheesy reality show with dumb tweests.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Its shit on purpose
          Lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It literally is though. You must've noticed everybody was even more over the top than usual for Danganronpa - one of them was a fricking actual robot for Pete's sake. Why? To generate ratings.
            The real mystery of V3 is the setting itself. You are supposed to figure out it's a reality show.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >anon discovers lampshading

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thinking about it, I think P5 withheld more information from the player than V3. Yes, Kaede's narration when she drops the ball is misleading, but you can still infer what happened prior to the game explaining it to you from the rest of the evidence and prior scenes. P5 on the other hand flat out skips over scenes and cuts away from scenes mid-conversation using the excuse of the truth serum suddenly acting up and fricking with his memories.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Any twist that requires the protagonist to hide something from the player/viewer is bad writing
      I usually don't mind those but yeah, it fell flat in P5. The only other time I "disliked" a twist like that was ZTD, but it gets a pass because it's one of those "so bad it's good" experiences.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a bad twist because the game does have to kind of lie to you even with the context that Joker is under the effects of drugs since at least up to the point where you make the twist Joker objectively knows that Akechi is the traiotor at that point.
    It also makes the bad ending make no sense, since Joker is ratting out his freinds for no reason, even though he should already know the plan since he recounted the events of Sae's palace.

    Furthermore, there are many plot holes in the actual plan to thwart Akechi himself. Who found Joker and the prison guards body? Won't they have noticed the prison guard was still alive? Why does Akehci even need to be the one to do it in the first place? Isn't he a famous celebrity? What if someone follows him or takes an incriminating picture of him? Why not just send a random mook? What would you do if Akechi never brought his phone, which I'd expect with the metadata and tracking cellphones have nowadays that there's no reason he'd bring it.

    Shouldn't Shidou's goon still keep tabs on the Phantom Thieves and wouldn't they immediately recognize you as being still alive? in fact how the feck did Shidou not recognize you when you confronted him at that rally (Though that I can handwave as not really expecting you to literally be there)

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked this game a lot. Glad I waited until Royal was out on PC and on sale. Unironically gonna do the same with Persona 6 as long as there's no Black folk.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Catherine was the only time they pulled off this shit well. He did an oopsie, both parties immediately know the jig is up, they have their showdown. P4 and P5 spent like 50 hours after the fact to say "remember 50 hours ago? gotcha lmao". Granted P4 plays it more straight and Naoto's leap in logic is dumb as af but P5 is almost as equally stupid with how they deliberately hide scenes of the gang FROM THE PLAYER so that the twist can even work.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Naoto's leap in logic is dumb
      If you're talking about "How would that explain anything."
      It makes sense since Nametame's journal made no mention of the actual victims the police were actually searching for, and all nametame's victims were not people who were reported to be missing.
      Adachi revealed he has no idea what's going on to the point that he is woefully inept and irresponsible....or that he knows exactly what's going on.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The one line Naoto picks at, the "wow, that explains it", could easily just be handwaved as Adachi just making a statement of relief during an intense situation. It's a massive leap in logic for Naoto to assume that he made a completely coolheaded statement that betrayed his knowledge.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't explain anything though, and his literal job is to find who killed the girls.
          Even someone who wasn't a cop and just heard about them murders would wonder what the frick he's talking about.
          >statement of relief during an intense situation.
          He said "That explaisn it." though. That inherently implies that he now understand the situation, when anyone who is paying attention would think that's idiotic.

          Even the cast during that point where having doubts about whether or not Nametame did it, but he's their only lead.

          The resident comic relief, bumbling defective sighing relief at a conclusive statement by a fellow investigator of a much higher pedigree than himself, is a decisive and final evidence and totally not at all circumstantial given the hectic state of the crime scene. Like the pancake line, these morons could have easily just not fricking say anything but the plot demands they make a completely innocent and insignificant line so that the writers can pat themselves in the back way later in each game.

          >The resident comic relief, bumbling defective sighing relief at a conclusive statement
          His literal job is to find who killed Yameno and Saki. There's being bumbling, and there's being so woefully ignorant that you have no business being part of the professional investigation of a murder victim.
          Furthermore, no one knew the people mentioned in Nametame's notebook were missing, so as far as Adachi SHOULD know at that point he should have no idea what those names have to do with anything.
          > these morons could have easily just not fricking say anything but the plot demands
          Eh, to be fair just because you make a mistake doesn't make you stupid. There's no way for Akechi to have known about Morgana, and as far as Adach iwas concerned, he played his dumbness up too far that people second guessed what exactly he was doing there.
          >s a decisive and final evidence and totally not at all circumstantial given the hectic state of the crime scene.
          They were never absolutely sure Adachi did it until he slipped up with the "Put them all in." It was all circumstantial, so they were trying his bluff. Hell, after Adachi ran off, Yosuke said "Damn, so he really was the killer."
          Really there were easy ways to talk your way out of it, but having almost 10 different people breathing down your necks will make anyone not particularly well spoken to say the wrong thing. It's very human, honestly.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The resident comic relief, bumbling defective sighing relief at a conclusive statement by a fellow investigator of a much higher pedigree than himself, is a decisive and final evidence and totally not at all circumstantial given the hectic state of the crime scene. Like the pancake line, these morons could have easily just not fricking say anything but the plot demands they make a completely innocent and insignificant line so that the writers can pat themselves in the back way later in each game.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad the P5R team is making Persona 6, I want a new Persona without Hashino's hack writing.
    Can't imagine how dumb Metaphor's tweest will be.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ENTER. He does your politician antagonist way better than Shido.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only because he has gotten a massive foothold in politics while Shido failed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope. As a character, he is way better in terms of depth and character progression from a cripple who became power obsessed after feeling so isolated from everyone while those around him had power as Yakuza. Shido was way too one-note while Masato had the contrast to Ichiban. Persona 5 had way too much disconnect from the main cast in terms of character dynamics making the conflict far too external with its one dimensional villains. Scramble/Strikers did better with the cast empathizing with its antagonists. Despite most of the villains being mainly rehashes of the base antagonists. There wasn't enough of a character clash or contrast to make the overall conflict not feel one note.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good premise, but as usual yakuza can't help going all over the place when it comes to the main story. It's paced like a tv show than a video game.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't a twist though.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is an unironic pleb filter. If you see someone say "The Akechi twist was so boring and obvious" know that they are moronic for thinking Killer Akechi was the twist and not the PT ruse plan

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (Me)
      Note by the way that I'm not calling anyone who says the actual twist was done poorly moronic because there are quite a few conveniences required, plus having to hide information brings the twist down. I'm saying if you think Akechi being the killer wasn't supposed to be obvious you are a midwit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >heh that wasn't the real twist! filtered!
        >but the real twist was bad though
        I have no idea what your deal is at all. You just come off as a moron.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          HaHa Thank you Joker! That really means a lot really.
          Hey, have you seen Morgana lately?

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn’t mind blowing, but it was a breath of life because the game was alright after the first palace but boring as shit when Kaneshiro’s palace hit. It also made me wish Joker was an actual character since his voice actor is the same as Lelouch’s.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this character who is a detective and looks like Light Yagami, and constantly shows signs of having a sinister alter ego... WAS ACTUALLY THE BAD GUY?!

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Man I am so smart that I predicted this character is a bad guy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is he wrong?

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Average p5 gay

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Akechi being the bad guy wasn't the twist.
    The twist was that the cast weren't moronic and actually knew he was going to turn on them, so they made a plan for that. And the other twist was the Igor thing.

    If you're going to shit on the writing of P5, at least know what you're talking about.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The part with Igor was heavily surprising to me because I thought they just changed the VA and just when I gotten used to the voice he fricks off.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    considering it's been making the morons of Gankereddit seethe for nearly a decade yeah it was.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my only problem with Akechi was that I wasn't allowed to completely ignore or abuse him on my second playthrough. There should be an option for me to completely ignore him or insult him at every opportunity

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The twist in Persona 5 was that Igor was an imposter. That was the twist. And it didn't really make much sense and didn't really have any consequence on the story. Or at least, I can't remember at all why they posed as Igor or why they were trying to kill free will in the world or anything, they may as well have just been a big spooky monster or something. And then Joker called upon the ultimate power of shooting them with a gun and all's well that ends well I guess.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fake Igor was changing the world because he read humanity's subconscious and knew they wanted the world to be changed. He had to be stopped because it's only okay when the Phantom Thieves do it using the same exact mechanics.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I can't remember at all why they posed as Igor
      Final Boss cheated and had pretty much won even before the game started. Him helping out Joker was basically just him doing a taunting victory lap until that blew up in his face.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >entire thread repeating "uh actualy akechi being bad wasn't the twist" ad nauseum
    god you guys are just as bad as youtube comments

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are only two possible traitors, Haru or Akechi, and Haru’s a girl so she can’t be one since Persona games are dating sims.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't read the thread before I make my first post in it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How dare people voice the same opinion. But you and me, we're better than those sheep, right? We know better. So cool.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >romance Haru
    >post-game is about how the MC misses the kid who murdered his girlfriend's dad
    >she takes no issue with this at all and is even willing to work with him
    The entire Akechi plotline in royal feels made specifically only for Jap fujos who overwhelmingly love the character.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk I put the cutscenes on fast forward

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Picrel is an example of a bad twist that aged well. It may not have been executed in the best way, but the game separated player knowledge from character knowledge to give players an actually difficult mystery to solve. If they could see Delta from the beginning, it would've been too easy.
    "Complex motives" and "MIND HACC" memes surely helped a lot.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any explanation for why they noticed akechi's slip up but didn't think it was worth talking about until months later when he actually joined the party?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably because saying
      >hey this guy is a lying traitor, let's plan out how to one-up him
      Right at the start of a game would make for a less-exciting narrative.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You didn't catch how masterfully careful and ahead-of-the-game the Phantom Thieves were throughout the game? How they outmaneuvred their targets with grace and elegance as they all kneel down to their craftiness? It all culminates in their beautiful pulling of Akechi's rug to his disgrace

      The Phantom Thieves is just

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't it because you're seeing the whole game on the perspective of a drugged Joker who's struggling to remember things? I remember that was one of the scenes where his memory "glitched"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah morgana just doesn't bring up akechi hearing about the pancakes until months later when akechi joins
        He only becomes suspicious because akechi claims he only recently went into the metaverse which is clearly a lie but it doesn't explain why he never thought to bring it up as soon as the pancake slip up happened

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a moron, bought Persona 5 on launch for PS3, didn't read any spoilers and sort of zoned out of the dialog half way through. I legit thought I locked myself into a bad ending when Akechi shot Joker in the face. Then I saw the Keikaku and thought it was stupid.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And here's an example of an irredeemably bad twist. The chronological order is broken solely to make the player think the body halves were found 6 years apart. You spent 30 hours trying to solve the mystery of how that's even possible? Too fricking bad sucker, there actually was no mystery! You've been played!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's incredible just how hard Uchikoshi has managed to frick up Nirvana Initiative without any of the excuses he had for ZTD

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    P4 > P3 > P5

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Picrel is a cool twist, but ruined by several minor details like Sigma never noticing his cybernetic eye, or somehow never seeing his own reflection in many, many puzzles that specifically use reflective surfaces.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real twist should have been total hag marriage

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No because they made it too obvious. There should have been a longer time period between him hearing Morgana mention something and him bringing it up. Like, instead of him coming by and saying "oh pancakes" as soon as it was said, like a month later he invites them to get pancakes since he remembers how much they like it or invites them to that amusement park, Whatever, point being that there should have been a longer time for the payoff to happen so that it wouldnt be so fresh in your mind and it would have been a bigger "oh shit" moment when its revealed that everything played right in front of you and you just needed to pay attention to get it. Needed more subtly and time to simmer.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >protagonist was given drugs so that he forgets only the plans they made to catch akechi, but remembers every other facet of his life in the past year down to the finest minute detail
    It was garbage. They should have made you have blackouts in your memory as the whole game is just you relaying stuff to Sae, but you can tell that they made the whole game first, then last minute decided "BuT wE nEeD tO hAvE bAd EnDiNg"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >protagonist was given drugs so that he forgets only the plans they made to catch akechi, but remembers every other facet of his life in the past year down to the finest minute detail
      actually that makes sense. in memory loss it's the close and familiar things that come back easily; something as abstract and convoluted as a frame/escape plot is bound to be the last thing you remember.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Considering that Joker can remember something like "I went to a fortune teller and got scammed out of 100,000¥ and didn't do anything about it," or "On June 16th I went and did laundry for the first and only time," he's remembering things that are not nearly as familiar as a plan that the group has been talking about for weeks.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't have minded this twist if the phantom thieves had shown any kind of intelligence before this point that would convince me they could spot this

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who will be the traitor in Metaphor?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The player.
      Metaphorically speaking.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Was it a good tweest? Were your expectations subverted?
    LOL you were mistaken game creator, 16 year olds don't find that cool

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      P5's sales were exclusively carried by zoomers. Boomers universally hated the game.
      The boomers who like the game today were zoomers when it released. Persona 5 is a decade old, anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The boomers who like the game today were zoomers when it released.
        that's not how generations work

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you even know what a boomer is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well yeah if you're talking about sales and not ego then you can sell anything

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was a little too obvious
    but at the same time, come the frick on, obviously Akechi would have a bigger role than just being a detective

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it was a good twist. The point of a twist isn't always to surprise or shock you, but just alter your perceptions. The point isn't to be surprised by Akechi's downfall, but to sympathise with him anyway because you get to learn his backstory through his social link. Akechi would be the best Phantom Thief alongside Joker, but he let the power of distortion corrupt his heart in his fight against evil. It's the classic turning into the monster you were trying to defeat story, and they told it well.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    persona 5 is the worst Persona ever made and the fact that you zoomers keep talking about the dogshit revelation for over a decade says everything

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Akechi is so fricking hot. I wish he would use me for the cumdump bawd that I am and roughly discard me afterwards. I wouldn't mind bearing his child like that prostitute of his mom after she got impregnated by Shido.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    persona 5 is the worst Persona ever made and the fact that you zoomers keep talking about the dogshit revelation for over a decade says everything

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what does it say

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the gameplay is a million times better than 3 and 4

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If mooks
        >Find enemy weakness
        >Pass baton to another party member that will hit a different enemy's weakness
        >All Out Attack
        If Boss
        If weakness
        >Exploit weakness for All Out Attack
        If no weakness
        >Buff party/debuff boss
        >Focus/Charge
        >Use strongest attack
        The battle system sucked, but I guess trying to be optimal on days off (completing palaces in 1 day for maximum time optimization) was kinda fun. Frick Makoto's S Link for requiring a max social stat at like rank 4.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I actually was pretty surprised by this tweest. I guess I’m just moronic.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Akechi is the fricking worst and I can't believe that little homosexual is arguably the most popular character from P5.
    Are Fujos really that powerful?

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hated akechi, also this game completely fizzles out after the first dungeon

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do people really care about story coherence in anime weeb games?

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