Was it a mistake?

Was it a mistake?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no

    dragon having almost no resistances is retarded

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This; fairy type was a great addition because dragons by gen v were basically unmatched as they almost always had coverage for steel types while having higher attacking stats than other types. Game would have been dead by now if powercreep wasn't handled this way.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not kill two birds with one stone by making Ice resist Dragon?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    best mistake

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m a fairy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YWNBAF

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Making it basically a better version of Psychic was a mistake but Dragon definitely needed another weakness

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I legit don’t get why people get mad about it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lizardmen are spiteful

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most American males are brainwashed to despise femininity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bullshit, mens test has never been lower and most of them are turning into trannies. Take your boogeymen elsewhere.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is literally nothing good about femininity

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          only low T males and self-loathing women think this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because femininity destroys attractiveness in a man, it's not brainwashing it's a primal instinct that globohomo is trying to destroy because it goes against their agenda.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't have remotely enough weaknesses to justify being a counter towards meta types

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only two weaknesses are shitty offensive types
        >said weaknesses to these types are easily negated by combining with another type
        They really didn't think that through.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you ignore leggos like Xerneas and the Tapus the average fairy-mon is pretty bad, that's how it's balanced

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Clefable would be an RU or NU Pokemon by now if not for the Fairy typing. The "Pokemon are bad" defense is a bad one.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that's generally what bulky defensive types rely on, their type. So you can basically say the same for pretty much any bulky mon out there.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's a circular argument. Of course types rely on their types.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hydreigon fans.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, it was a good idea. The mistake was not making it weak to Bug.

      It's because they're deeply insecure in their sexual orientation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's poorly balanced.
      Psychic only took 1 generation to get a nerf.
      Dragon and Fighting only took 2, after Outrage was buffed and Close Combat was introduced.
      Fairy has been around for 3 gens with no sign of a nerf.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it doesn't need a nerf.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dragon and Fighting only took 2
        You think Fighting's main counter getting a nerf, and introducing two new types that are both weak to Fighting, counts as a nerf???

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Reading comprehension

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sorry I can count and you can't. Two is a pretty high number.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you legitimately retarded or is this some kind of bit?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dont blame the ESL. Imagine if you had to read an entire board in french or spanish, I would fucking blow my brains out

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think I'd get used to it pretty quickly. Those are both easy languages, and English is even easier.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It generally helps to read the entire sentence, anon-kun.
          >Dragon and Fighting only took 2, after Outrage was buffed and Close Combat was introduced.
          Not 2 after their introduction, but 2 after they got reliable and spammable 120 BP moves.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Gen 6 replaced a broken type with another broken type, while buffing another broken type

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's not broken

        >while buffing another broken type
        steel not resisting dark and ghost anymore is a massive nerf

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it doesn't need a nerf.

          it needs to be weak to Bug

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why the fuck would the nature type be weak to a common thing found in nature?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why the fuck would the nature type be weak to a common thing found in nature?
              Well first of all, how the fuck is fairy "the nature" type? Grass is the closest thing to a nature type.
              Which is extra funny, because grass IS weak to bug.

              Fairy is the girl type and girls hate bugs, simple as.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well first of all, how the fuck is fairy "the nature" type?
                Why do you think Xerneas, which turns into a tree and controls life is Fairy type?
                Why do you think the move Nature's Madness and the guardians of Alola are Fairy type?
                Why do you think Sylveon is named after sylvan?
                Why do you think Pokemon like Comfey and Florges which have control over plant life are Fairy type?
                Why do you think Fairy is weak to Steel and Poison, both types that represent harm to nature?

                >Which is extra funny, because grass IS weak to bug.
                yeah, because bugs eat grass. It doesn't eat magical fairies that control nature energy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hmm, yes, the nature type.
                And how does the living pile of whipped cream that turns into a skyscraper cake tie into nature exactly?
                Or the green lady in a dress?
                Or fat blue mouse?
                Or the living keys?
                Or the ghost wearing a pikachu costume?
                Or the fucking mime?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not JUST a nature type anon. Fire type also represents lava but that doesn't mean every fire type is lava themed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's not JUST a nature type anon
                Yeah fairy is a lot of fucking things, and I'm pretty sure there's more fairys that have absolutely nothing to do with nature than that do.

                The only remotely unifying theme shared among the majority of fairy types is being cute, pretty or otherwise feminine looking. And girls hate bugs so it should be super effective against them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and I'm pretty sure there's more fairys that have absolutely nothing to do with nature than that do
                yes just like there's more fire types that have nothing to do with lava than ones that do.

                >And girls hate bugs
                fairies aren't girls.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him
                But how about Ice
                Nature is weakened in the snow right
                Petals fall trees lose thier leaves and all that jazz

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nature is weakened in nature right
                No.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why wouldn't the cute little girl type be weak to bugs?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would the magical nature type be weak to thing found in nature?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because it's not the magical nature type.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because it's not the magical nature type. It's the magical little girl type.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Steel was fine back when the most offensive Pokemon it existed on was fucking Metagross.
          The problem is now that Steel exists on Pokemon with stacked as fuck offenses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here you have:
      - Dragon's only problem was Outrage spam. STAB Outrage coming from pseudos was too much for most Pokémon that weren't Steel type. Even then it was a move that locked you and gave you confusion afterwards. Just a nerf to 100 would've been enough for people to use Dragon Claw or Dragon Rush instead.
      - All noteworthy dragons were already x4 weak to Ice (Dragonite, Salamence, Flygon, Garchomp, Altaria) or/and had other common weaknesses like Rock (all the flying ones) or Fighting (for Hydreigon), or just weak to Ice but with outright shit defenses like Haxorus or Druddigon. The only one "without weaknesses" was Kingdra, which just doesn't have the stats to be a real threat. I'm not counting legendaries because they are in another league and they are not eligible in most tourney formats (be it official or Smogon).
      - Dragon was supposed to be a special type in that they have almost no weakness but its type is not effective against anything. Kinda like Almighty in Shin Megami Tensei.
      - This being said, dragon was mostly balanced if not for the mentioned Outrage spam.

      (cont)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Enter Fairies:
        - They are immune to Dragon, which ends Outrage spam. Ok
        - They are supereffective against Dragon, making Dragon have 3 weaknesses now (the usual number)
        But:
        - They themselves are only weak to Poison and Steel. Two very uncommon attacking types (Poison being only super effective against Grass, which is weak to a fuckton other types and Steel being Rock but without being SE against Flying). Technically this would mean we'd see more Poison and Steel attacks, but they are still horrible attacking types, and most of Poison and Steel types are Defense-oriented.
        - They make Fairy SE against Dark and Fighting too, because potato. This gives another weakness (even x4 Weaknesses like Scrafty) to Pokémon that were pretty good but not broken, and now they are useless.
        - Psychic's main niche (dealing with Fighting) is stolen. Even more, Fairy can beat Dark, which is immune to Psychic, making Fairy a better Psychic.
        - Fairy type is given to very good Pokémon, given to Megas, making it everywhere.

        Basically, Fairy type introduction nerfed Dragon, Dark, Fighting (as intended), but indirectly Ice, Psychic (loses main niche), Bug (more Fire to resist Fairy), Grass (more Poison), while not really buffing Poison and Still and giving Fire an undeserved buff.

        So now the broken type is Fairy. And it's been like that for 3 gens, now for the 4th without any change

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fire deserved the buff after stealth rock came along and ruined literally every meta for them since it's introduction.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If they wanted to really buff Fire they should've made it SE against Fairy, but that'd be giving one of the starter types a very strong advantge against the others.

            Make Fairy weak to Ice AND Bug, while Bug now resists Fairy. Ice is a super common attacking type, while Bug needs a buff.

            Fairies now can be sent without fear. If they were weak to a common type (like almost every other type is) it would be different story

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They'll never make fairy weak to bug because they don't want uturn to be even better than it is.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The retarded distribution U-Turn gets needs to be axed
                Or just make a Normal type copy of the move and make U-Turn's distribution more rare, so making a type weak to Bug doesn't become an automatic death sentence

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >laughs in flip turn

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Has less BP, and there's a good number of Pokemon with Water Absorb/Dry Skin that can switch into it for a free turn
                But yes, Water type U-turn was something no one needed nor asked for

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why does Water get so much favoritism?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it's unintentional. The only time the Water starter was the best was Greninja. Usually Grass or Fire get the favoritism in merch, anime, etc, while Water gets the competitive favoritism

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >making Fairy a better Psychic.
          This is literally my issue with Fairy
          What other weakness would you give it
          Something that would make you think "maybe I should use a psychic instead"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Make it weak to Normal. Lore being similar to Ghost: "Normal" beings don't believe in either. In practice this might be too tremendous of a blow, with extremespeed and fakeout in particular. But in theory it would balance out the Fairy/Steel type combination. With Return gone, it's not as if everything has access to a good normal move anymore.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Normal because normal people don't believe in fairies and Normal coverage is extremely common.
            Fire because of industrial shit. Fire already resists Fairy anyway.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fire no longer resists fairy but...

            Ice resists Fairy (fairies hate winter)
            Grass reisists Fairy (grass is similar to fairy)
            Rock resists Fairy (magic can be comntained with gems/stones/runes, I'm reaching tbh)
            Bus resists Fairy. (bugs can live with nautre spirits)

            Fairy would still be good but losing some offensive positives would be a cost that psychic wouldn't have.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Grass reisists Fairy (grass is similar to fairy)
              I'd even go so far as to say Grass should be immune to Fairy, if I wasn't apprehensive about giving a starter type an immunity.
              Fairies are supposed to be nature spirits or something, so having them be unable to harm nature would make sense.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget that fairy moves are also very good, at least on the special side. Moonblast is 95 + 30% drop (compare to psychic or shadow ball, 90/80 + 10/20% drop chance), play rough may miss but also might drop atk, spirit break is 75 power with guaranteed spatk drop, gleam is one of the few spread moves with no downsides.

          Then add that there aren't many pokemon that resist fairy, at least in vgc.
          Fire? the most used fire pokemon is inci, and he's neutral.
          Poison? an uncommon type, Amoonguss and Venu are the only relevant ones
          Steel isn't incredibly popular either, except for Zacian.
          So you can use your moves without many issues.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Moonforce being a 30% chance to drop is ridiculous

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Spirit Break is fine, given it is an exclusive move
            Moonblast is imo the best move in the game right now
            >Nothing is immune to it
            >Doesn't miss
            >95 BP
            >30% to cripple Special Attackers (which are usually hard to stop)

            Only Scald with its retarded distribution of "almost every fucking Water type" can be compared to Moonblast

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHAT ARE YOU THOUGHTS ON THE -IGGLY-UFF LINE?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They seem pretty jiggly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      theycute

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wiggly > Iggly > Jiggly
      Although all completely inferior to both the Clefairy and Chansey lines

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based clefable fan

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Clef is cute, but Jiggly is bae

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only mistake was making Steel stronger by proxy by giving it a weakness and making Steel/Fairy the best defensive typing possible.

      Always liked 'em, even before fairy being a thing. Not sure why they have to keep their Normal typing though.
      Wigglytuff desperately needs a buff, the moveset is good but the stats and abilities make it difficult to use over literally anything else.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Not sure why they have to keep their Normal typing though.
        Because they're sound-themed and sound has been part of the Normal type for a very long time.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guess, even if a singing fairy balloon isn't really that much of a stretch.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guess, even if a singing fairy balloon isn't really that much of a stretch.

          What about Primarina? Also a singing themed mon but not Normal

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Already has two types.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After Alcremie and Fidough, 100%

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the food type

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a cool and fresh idea and i'm glad we have it,, but it's a bit overtuned. Steel/Fairy is a hellish type combination that exists now.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hell no it wasn't

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    singlehandedly made dragon a shit type offensively when it was previously the best type offensively. Fairy would have been fine if it merely resisted Dragon instead of being flat out immune to it.
    Did dragon need a nerf? Yes. Fairy severely overnerfed it.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it as a new type but it should've been resisted by ice and/or perhaps had a 3rd weakness like Psychic for example.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a 3rd weakness
      like Bug

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes!

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bad distribution, it should have been rare like dragon

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, but being outright immune instead of just resistant to dragon is overkill.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's hilarious.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still angry Milotic didn't become Water/Fairy

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pro: nerfed Dragon
    pro: buff poison
    pro: dark resist with knock off buffs
    con: replaced ice as the dragon killer
    con: the 8th bug resist
    con: made the best defensive type a good offensive type
    con: is a better psychic type

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, it gave a lot of mons that didn’t seem to fit in the normal category a category.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My biggest disdain is how it is thematically a mess, and doesn't seem to have a cohesive theme, an issue which also ends up effecting Psychic type Pokemon as well.

    Thematically, Fairy Pokemon should've been moreso for fairy/youkai/mythological creatures who explicitly use naturalish magic. Many Pokemon were given Fairy type despite having no real reason to have it aside from "It's cute". Marill and Jigglypuff's line didn't need to be Fairy type.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, I think fairies are cool
    Also having an "antagonist" type for dragons just like psychic & dark fits very nicely

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My autistic headcanon of rivalries:
      Fire - Water
      Grass - Bug
      Ground - Electric
      Fighting - Flying
      Psychic - Dark
      Dragon - Fairy
      Rock - Ice
      Normal - Ghost
      Poison - Steel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Normal - Ghost
        >~YA TAKE YOUR NORMAL TYPE A LIKE JIGGLYPUFF, AGAINST THE GHOSTLY GENGAR, BATTLES REAL TOUGH!!!~

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thought it was at first, but as time has come by I have started to appriicate the fairy type more. Plus dragon did need the nerf.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon did need a nerf, but not to be made utterly useless.

      Just nerfing Outrage would've been fine, but that doesn't sell plushies

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They’re cute so no

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not making it weak to Bug was the biggest "You had one job" moment in Pokemon history

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Faires are cool.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't inherently a mistake. Only the way it was implemented was flawed.

    They should have called the type "Light".
    Next to Steel and Poison, Grass and Ice should resist Light (but not Fire!).
    Light and Dark should be very effective against each other.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter if you're not a compfag

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fairies and peoples reaction to them are the funniest thing ive ever seen

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fairy steel was a mistake

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fairy should be weak to fighting but pokemon is woke now so the implications would be too much

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    basically yes
    it forced to rebalance Steel which actually brought more issues in general, mainly Ghost being nearly unstoppable
    making its only weaknesses Poison and Steel was retarded, either make it Poison or something else or make it completely something else
    Poison and Steel are basically the same type in what you do with them except Steel is one of the best and Poison is one of the worst

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    together with everything that came with the 3ds era and beyond.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nerfing steel/psychic and making steel/fairy was a mistake

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because it blessed us with this sexy creature

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So is everyone just going to ignore that outside of legendary pokemon, fairies kind of suck in general?

    The only two good ones are probably Clefable and Togekiss.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Clefable and Togekiss
      Pretty much.

      Clefable would be an RU or NU Pokemon by now if not for the Fairy typing. The "Pokemon are bad" defense is a bad one.

      Clefable still loses easily to physical attackers. It's also kinda slow.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Clefable still loses easily to physical attackers. It's also kinda slow.
        No it doesn't. There's a reason it's been a top 10 Pokemon in OU for 3 generations running now when it was never OU before (it found a niche in Gen 4 OU a handful of years back since Magic Guard wasn't nerfed yet and Gen 4 was defined by chip damage which Clef ignored entirely). "Bad" Pokemon being given a type doesn't make the type balanced. The type is still imbalanced as fuck, but it's less apparent to casuals.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No it doesn't. There's a reason it's been a top 10 Pokemon in OU for 3 generations
          Being in OU doesn't mean being overpowered and having no counters. Clefable still stays slow and not able to take multiple physical attacks if it doesn't run Cosmic Power.

          >"Bad" Pokemon being given a type doesn't make the type balanced.
          Types, moves and pretty much anything else don't exist in a vacuum. It would be like complaning about giving a 200 BP move to Unown just because hurr durr big number.

          >Clefable
          >A-Ninetales
          >Sylveon
          >Togekiss
          >Azumarill
          >M-Gardevoir
          >M-Mawile
          I even remember Whimsicott, Klefki, and Primaria being really good at one time or another. Fairy is overpowered and it's the main reason for people not liking it.

          Half of these aren't used because Fairy, that would only really be Togekiss and Clefable.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Being in OU doesn't mean being overpowered and having no counters.
            It very much is overpowered and has very few counters. Most Clefables in OU run a lot of defense EVs and absorb physical attacks extremely well. It has recovery, too, so it can continue to eat physical attacks for days. It's incredibly hard to kill due to that and Magic Guard, meaning you can't just stall it out.

            It being slow isn't a weakness, and it isn't physically weak.
            >Types, moves and pretty much anything else don't exist in a vacuum
            Types can because every Pokemon has a type. Moves and abilities can be limited in their spread, but everything has a type, and every Fairy is better than it should be by virtue of its type.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It very much is overpowered and has very few counters.
              Literally any fast physical attacker with any move not resisted by Fairy.
              >It being slow isn't a weakness
              Are you serious now. It's the biggest weakness along the fact it needs to setup, which means there are many mons able to damage or taunt it.
              >and every Fairy is better than it should be by virtue of its type.
              Which is okay if the type is given only to what's naturally not so strong.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >being vulnerable to Taunt isn't a weakness on a pokemon that needs to set up
              okay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clefable doesn't need to set up. It can run Calm Mind, sure, but it usually runs a utility set. You taunt Clefable and it just knocks off your item and switches out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You taunt Clefable and it just knocks off your item and switches out.
                You can do this with almost any Knock Off mon. Only reason for why you are using Clefable in this case would be baiting the opponent into thinking it's Calm Mind.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clefable can also run Calm Mind and be a win condition, but by the time you switch in your Taunt Pokemon it'll have set up a Calm Mind and just hit it with a Moon Blast when you Taunt.
                >+1 0 SpA Life Orb Clefable Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tornadus-Therian: 208-247 (57.4 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
                That's basically the only Taunter in OU getting 2HKO'd after one CM. Good answer.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you can have a mixed set Clefable but I can only use Tornadus-T for taunt
                Lol fuck off.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What the fuck else are you going to use? Weavile dies in ONE Moon Blast.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have seen Tapus running Taunt often enough.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fini usually runs it, but CM Clef usually runs Thunder for that exact reason. One CM boost in and its Moon Blast leaves Fini down enough to die to one Thunder
                >+1 0 SpA Life Orb Clefable Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Fini: 153-181 (44.4 - 52.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

                It doesn't even register as a top 15 move for Tapu Lele, and it just makes the top 10 most used moves for Tapu Koko with 8% usage.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can we not do this "but your Clefable runs every move at once" shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We were talking about CM Clef though

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Clefable is mainly just happy to not be a normal type so it can't get beaten into submission by close combat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Clefable
      >A-Ninetales
      >Sylveon
      >Togekiss
      >Azumarill
      >M-Gardevoir
      >M-Mawile
      I even remember Whimsicott, Klefki, and Primaria being really good at one time or another. Fairy is overpowered and it's the main reason for people not liking it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Primarina is still really good, it's just outclassed by Tapu Fini which has the same type. It's easily the best of the 3 Alola Starters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alolan ninetailes isn't good because of it's typing, it has aurora veil and that's it. And if anyone here wants to say it's good outside of using that move, they're a fag.

        Fuck off with Sylveon.

        Azumarill is just a gimmick, that will lose to anyone that has a single brain cell.

        Megas you don't have to deal with anymore, but yeah mega mawile was annoying at times. Though I have no clue in hell what you're talking about with mega gardevoir.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Alolan ninetailes isn't good because of it's typing, it has aurora veil and that's it. And if anyone here wants to say it's good outside of using that move, they're a fag.
          You might actually be retarded. Alolan Ninetales is stupid strong, not just because of Aurora Veil. Vanilluxe also has Snow Warning + Aurora Veil + Blizzard. It doesn't have the Fairy type, though.
          >Fuck off with Sylveon.
          lmao. lol even
          >Azumarill is just a gimmick, that will lose to anyone that has a single brain cell.
          Azumarill has several gimmicks. It's still a great Pokemon that would be much worse if not for the Fairy type
          >Megas you don't have to deal with anymore
          You don't have to deal with a lot of things because of the dex cut.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would anyone use Alolan Ninetales competitively, if it didn't have aurora veil?

            >isn't good because of it's typing
            This is also true for... every fucking pokemon ever.
            >aurora veil
            Delibirdbros, you heard it here first, we're good now. It's our time.

            Delibird is also a lot slower, which sucks when you want to get the veil up as quickly as possible.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Would anyone use Alolan Ninetales competitively, if it didn't have aurora veil?
              Bad reasoning. It has the same niche as Vanilluxe, but with the Fairy type added, ergo the main reason it's always used over Vanilluxe is due to the typing. Vanilluxe hits incredibly hard and used to be used on hyper offense Hail teams, but even HO Hail now runs A-Ninetales because it's straight up better even if it doesn't hit nearly as hard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So I see we're just going to ignore people just use it to set up aurora veil, but alright whatever let's somehow try to it's because of that fairy typing.

                When it clearly couldn't be that people use it because it's speed is significantly higher than Vaniluxe or Delibird as the other anon brought up. Because clearly you don't want to set up defensive utility quickly, you want to go as slow as possible for your opponent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The speed difference is the only other real point in A-Ninetales' favor, but being the fastest Aurora Veil setter isn't enough to make it OU. Aurora Veil is besides the point since its Fairy typing makes it better defensively and offensively than Vanilluxe.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's pokemon, speed is generally everything if you're not bulky. Being a fairy is only a cherry on top if anything.

                It should've been weak to and weak against bug. What the fuck were they smoking.

                Yeah that's actually a change I wanted to see, though more so just to see bug types get a bone for once.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vanilluxe IS bulky. 71/85/95 defenses makes it about as bulky as Clefable. It just doesn't have Fairy type as a crutch

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's an ice type, sothat's not really bulky all considering that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If only Ice type were immune to Dragon

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >isn't good because of it's typing
          This is also true for... every fucking pokemon ever.
          >aurora veil
          Delibirdbros, you heard it here first, we're good now. It's our time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not an argument. Outside of psuedos and legendaries, Dragons kind of suck in general. And yet they got absolutely crippled by the nerf bat.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You see how you had to add psuedos there to cover your ass.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't have to add it there to cover my ass. Psuedos have 600 BST, the same as Mew, and more than a good chunk of legendaries. Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit, Thundurus, Tornadus... I could go on. All of them have lower BST than psuedos.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I said that because there's quite a few psuedo dragons, so you were cutting the list really damn short to make your point.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dragon is the pseudo type

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There are psuedos that aren't Dragon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there are TWO pseudos that aren't dragons, and one of them was introduced at the same time as a pseudo that is the most dragon-like dragon pseudo of all

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By Gen 5, there were 6 Psuedos, and a full 1/3rd of them weren't Dragon. Dragonite had also just come to relevance for the first time due to getting Multiscale, an ability that only Lugia has otherwise. Without some retarded balance decisions, there would only be 3 relevant Dragon psuedo legendaries in Gen 5.

                There are plenty of non-psuedo Dragons that didn't deserve the nerfbat, and I'd argue that Hydreigon and Salamence didn't deserve it either.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe because removing legendary and pseudos leaves you with almost no dragons.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for the life of me i cant figure out why fairy isnt weak to fire. i would say that fire, steel, and poison are the 'industrial' types and in fantasy fairies are vulnerable to industrialization.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because they were worried about making fairy too weak so they only gave it two weaknesses, and they happen to be the two best possible weaknesses any pokemon could have

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fairy isnt weak to fire
      All drqgons can lea4n fire attacks and most dragons have stupid sp. Attk. Stats to make use of it.
      They wanted to put dragons in their box, not give them a guaranteed out.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been a boon for Poison usage, which is my favorite type. I don't really like using Faries though, only used Grimsnarl and Gardevoir. I would use Togekiss too if it was Fairy in HGSS

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it was a mistake. It was created as a hamhanded way to nerf dragons when there were more elegant solutions and then became the "please buy plushes of our uguu~ cute creatures" type instead of having any cohesion other than pink.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Fairy should be removed entirely and
      >Poison should be made super effective against Water
      >Steel should regain its resistance to Dark
      >Ice should be made immune to Dragon

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Currently in OU, there are
    >3 Dragon types
    >4 Psychic types
    >1 Rock type
    >2 Bug types
    >2 Ice types
    >2 Poison types
    >3 Dark types

    >5 Fairy types

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >more Psychic than any other type except Fairy
      what?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Slowbro
        G-Slowking
        Tapu Lele
        Victini (just barely made the usage cutoff for the tier, OU by technicality at this point)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          since psychic is usually agreed to be kind of shitty, doesn't this suggest that being overrepresented in OU doesn't say anything about a type's balance?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            2 of the Pokemon are essentially the same (Slowbro and G-Slowking) and one is Lele, which is also part Fairy and relies on it defensively. Psychic is also the 5th most common type in the game, and for how many Psychic types there are they are vastly underrepresented in the higher echelons of play.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3 of them are the Tapus, the other is the designated hail setter and Clefable

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It should've been weak to and weak against bug. What the fuck were they smoking.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't have Gardevoir being quad weak to Bug.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should have been weak to Bug and had Grass or Ice resist it instead of Fire.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >should have [things that make less sense]
      no

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, best type

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