I hate ubi towers too but i enjoyed this game. A little ubi tower here and there isnt terrible. Its just when every single player game is spamming it that it becomes insufferable
Yes. Despite the shitty tutorial and nonsensical story, the gameplay is great , the nemesis system was at it's best, the environments were well designed, sieges were fun, and the dlcs were surprisingly good, if nothing particularly special. And this game allows you to become a Nazgul and a necromancer. Raising an undead orc army is fun as frick, and I no longer have to seethe when my captains get killed. Also you can ride a drake across the map. Truly one of the greatest power fantasy games out there.
I stopped playing when the game really started to open up with the higher level areas being revealed. Maybe I should go back to it. I did enjoy SoM though. 100gb is unforgivable
Blade of Galadriel is pretty mehr, but the one with the black dude ist really excellent. Really fun twist on the formula, the best map in the game and a decent Story with good characters. They even managed to land some of the jokes as opposed to the base game.
Idk I honestly liked the first game better
SOW has more features and content but the combat feels less polished and more shallow with stealth being useless even on the highest difficulty rather than being a necessity like SOM
The maps in SOM felt more varied and interesting while everything in SOW was just copy-paste wooden towers and ruined castles with different set dressing
Sounds like your army might have hit the hidden cap. If you recruit too many orcs, some will disappear without warning. Also when you're nearing the cap, the rate of your captains betraying increases dramatically, you can have 4 homies turning on you at the same time.
Invasions were the best. Getting every single commander made into a spy and completing wrecking the fort was hilarious. Sadly in higher level forts, every orc commander has no chance, hits like a truck, and is enraged by everything.
This is one of the only open world games where the quests are the worst part and dicking around by yourself is significantly more fun
What can I say, luv me orcs
Absolutely
Even with the fake news campaign by 'professional reviewers' who claimed you had to spend 100s of dollars to progress (none of that is true), it sold well.
My only issue with it is thati t does take so long to unlock the fun stuff
>Shadow of War has an awfully repetitive gameplay formula, with uninteresting locations and storyline. >Shadow of Mordor was way better, both big locations were great at showing new gameplay mechanics and keeping the player engaged
the problem is that his opinion is contradictory to itself, and therefor moronic. it also follows the formulaic bait of "start with some truth everyone can agree on" (sow is repetitive as frick) to get everyone on your side, and then go full moron (som was better because it was different. (even though it wasnt, it was also just as repetitive).
get your hustlers university garbage out of here.
I did everything in the first game, all the DLCs etc
This one though I stopped half way, I just couldn't carry through although it's the superior game of the 2 simply because of the Nemesis system.
They had a solid base game and game loop but it doesn't really evolve beyond a certain point and then you're stuck doing essentially the same thing over and over.
I have a lot of complaints, but even so it's really fun and has enough gameplay to make it worth buying. Not a perfect game, but a valiant effort. The sequel isn't quite as... Tight?
Great gameplay. Atrocious story (both in SoW and SoM). Really wish the games had been more compatible with the lore.
Celebrimbor looks great but his personality was a tad shit(more so in SoW)
>Celebrimbor looks great but his personality was a tad shit
I found him to be the best written character in the Shadow duology. Not that it's saying much, but he's overall entertaining if nothing else.
Celebrimbors attitude made perfect sense though. When it was said he lost part of himself crafting the ring, that wasn't poetic licence. He literally tore his spirit apart
I've seen someone wave this off as spiritual mumbojumbo in a previkous thread months ago, like they didn't know the first thing about LoTR. A lot of fans somehow don't know that Gandalf is a spirit, not a Man
>When it was said he lost part of himself crafting the ring, that wasn't poetic licence. He literally tore his spirit apart.
Which should be impossible to do, in his case. Only the Ainur seem to be able to poar their power and spirit into the creation of objects and shaping of things. Best Celebrimbor could have done would be to exaust all his knowledge and craftsmanship into the crafting of that ring.
There's also the issue of his spirit returning to Middle-Earth, rather than staying in the Halls of Mandos.
>Celebrimbor looks great but his personality was a tad shit
I found him to be the best written character in the Shadow duology. Not that it's saying much, but he's overall entertaining if nothing else.
I just think the attitude of wanting to not only destroy Sauron but dethrone as well, by what ever means, seems a bit out of character.
>When it was said he lost part of himself crafting the ring, that wasn't poetic licence. He literally tore his spirit apart.
Which should be impossible to do, in his case. Only the Ainur seem to be able to poar their power and spirit into the creation of objects and shaping of things. Best Celebrimbor could have done would be to exaust all his knowledge and craftsmanship into the crafting of that ring.
There's also the issue of his spirit returning to Middle-Earth, rather than staying in the Halls of Mandos.
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I just think the attitude of wanting to not only destroy Sauron but dethrone as well, by what ever means, seems a bit out of character.
I think they did an okay-job considering that they can't use the Silmarillion, and can't overlap with the two movies. Lore's fricked up but it reinforces many of their themes, mainly the part about how absolute material power (represented by the Rings) eventually corrupts and gives everyone bad-ends.
"Hammerhand" using a hammer though, that's really off.
>They can't use the Silmarillion
I thought they actually could, when it comes to videogames. >"Hammerhand" using a hammer though, that's really off.
True. Also plenty of other things, such as Nazguls Isildur, Hammerhand and (not)Ar-Pharazon, are weird changes.
They can't, Tolkien Sr only sold the rights to LOTR and Hobbit, and his estate has never licensed Silmarillion or other of Tolkien's work for any media. They've even tried to sue WB for making LOTR videogames previously under the claim that the rights sold in '69 didn't cover digital media.
The only bits of lore that WB could use are from LOTR and Hobbit's appendices, everything else is made up and maybe they had to deliberately avoid having it look like the Silmarillion? That part idk really.
I honestly would've preferred the theme if they kept the nemesis system and had you playing as an Uruk that could be customised/developed using essentially the same system. Orcs assuming command by beating others into submission makes perfect sense, whereas Talion was the most edgy teenage weird "lore" to be injected into the Tolkien setting, except maybe chick Shelob (why?).
Those things said, I enjoyed the game anyway, but it could've been better.
Mate, I "killed" this one uruk upwards of six or seven times before he finally stopped showing up covered in more and more bindings, staples, stitches and prosthetics. You could have settings where your character always miraculously survives, or that he has about the same chance as the npc uruks, and if he dies you reroll. Or time rolls back, whichever.
the gimmick is great and they made it fairly clear how they would place quite fast and loose with the setting.
the blandness is visible but the antagonistic tamagochi angle makes up for it.
I had fun with it, even if it felt repetitive after a while. I need to start a new save though. I'm pretty sure I fricked up my first and only run through it.
The nemesis system is perhaps the most promising thing I have seen in the past decade of gaming. The potential to take that further is truly mind boggling and would unironically revolutionize gaming.
Its a real shame they patented it or whatever.
By patenting it, they are also forced to reveal its full design and internal mechanics, which means when the patent lapses in 2035 you can copy/paste it whole. For now, if you reeeeeaaaaally want to use it, you can go through their patent application, modify or omit some major component and it's enough to bypass the patent protection. It's like copying grade school homework.
Have you played it? Because the halfway point is the deciding factor of it being kino
Yes, if you think otherwise = you are a gay
I stopped when I saw there was Ubisoft towers and uninstalled. Sorry not sorry
The ubishit towers serve as a vector for the cool features it has, it’s like quitting an RPG because it has a dungeon.
I hate ubi towers too but i enjoyed this game. A little ubi tower here and there isnt terrible. Its just when every single player game is spamming it that it becomes insufferable
Yes. Too bad they designed the endgame around strongholds, which get boring quickly
Yes. Despite the shitty tutorial and nonsensical story, the gameplay is great , the nemesis system was at it's best, the environments were well designed, sieges were fun, and the dlcs were surprisingly good, if nothing particularly special. And this game allows you to become a Nazgul and a necromancer. Raising an undead orc army is fun as frick, and I no longer have to seethe when my captains get killed. Also you can ride a drake across the map. Truly one of the greatest power fantasy games out there.
I stopped playing when the game really started to open up with the higher level areas being revealed. Maybe I should go back to it. I did enjoy SoM though.
100gb is unforgivable
Manfilth!
Yes. Also Celebrimbor a shit.
Is any of the DLC for this or SoW worth playing? I loved the main games but these expansions look half assed to me
>Is any of the DLC for this or SoW worth playing?
All of them
Blade of Galadriel is pretty mehr, but the one with the black dude ist really excellent. Really fun twist on the formula, the best map in the game and a decent Story with good characters. They even managed to land some of the jokes as opposed to the base game.
Idk I honestly liked the first game better
SOW has more features and content but the combat feels less polished and more shallow with stealth being useless even on the highest difficulty rather than being a necessity like SOM
The maps in SOM felt more varied and interesting while everything in SOW was just copy-paste wooden towers and ruined castles with different set dressing
Great voice acting. Carnan especially and Bruce.
I love the nemesis system, but hate the magnetic combat with a passion.
That's why you sneak an entire army of spies into the enemy base so you can stroll in.
I could never do that for some reason. Maybe it's because of the difficulty.
I think they had a spy-cap or something in early versions.
No I played it recently and each time I converted a Warchief he would disappear from the army screen, so I was never able to plant spies.
Sounds like your army might have hit the hidden cap. If you recruit too many orcs, some will disappear without warning. Also when you're nearing the cap, the rate of your captains betraying increases dramatically, you can have 4 homies turning on you at the same time.
Invasions were the best. Getting every single commander made into a spy and completing wrecking the fort was hilarious. Sadly in higher level forts, every orc commander has no chance, hits like a truck, and is enraged by everything.
cool game that becomes really repetitive.
batman with orcs
just play darksiders 2 way better game in every way
I love Darksiders 2, but it doesn't have the nemesis system nor the cool sieges.
First was better
This is one of the only open world games where the quests are the worst part and dicking around by yourself is significantly more fun
What can I say, luv me orcs
I liked the first couple of hours, but after i realized the game is just about unlocking towers it got boring. Cool gameplay and music though
>the game is just about unlocking towers
It isn't
Absolutely
Even with the fake news campaign by 'professional reviewers' who claimed you had to spend 100s of dollars to progress (none of that is true), it sold well.
My only issue with it is thati t does take so long to unlock the fun stuff
The sheer number of Orc commander voice lines staggered me. I don't think I ran into a repeat one even once
>orse
>erse
that doesn't rhyme
you say both like erse, it does rhyme.
It makes lorelets seethe, but yeah it was a good game.
the story is fricking stupid but yeah, it's KINO
>turning Sauron's army against him
How is that stupid?
I liked cheating online and making Orcs and castles that would brick other people's games
yeah
Yea it's good. I thought the first was quite flawed and the combat felt like bootleg BamHam but the second game does feel like it is its own thing.
Shadow of War has an awfully repetitive gameplay formula, with uninteresting locations and storyline.
Shadow of Mordor was way better, both big locations were great at showing new gameplay mechanics and keeping the player engaged
>Shadow of War has an awfully repetitive gameplay formula, with uninteresting locations and storyline.
>Shadow of Mordor was way better, both big locations were great at showing new gameplay mechanics and keeping the player engaged
>thread full of the same exact opinion
>one person has a different opinion
>HE MUST BE AN NPC
damn bro you're moronic
the problem is that his opinion is contradictory to itself, and therefor moronic. it also follows the formulaic bait of "start with some truth everyone can agree on" (sow is repetitive as frick) to get everyone on your side, and then go full moron (som was better because it was different. (even though it wasnt, it was also just as repetitive).
get your hustlers university garbage out of here.
Whens a third one coming?
>kino
Frick off Ganker no one wants you here.
>was it kino?
>kino?
>no?
no.
I did everything in the first game, all the DLCs etc
This one though I stopped half way, I just couldn't carry through although it's the superior game of the 2 simply because of the Nemesis system.
They had a solid base game and game loop but it doesn't really evolve beyond a certain point and then you're stuck doing essentially the same thing over and over.
did you reach act 2?
First one was better but they are both kino.
Second one leaned a bit hard on the rng Diablo gear meme.
I have a lot of complaints, but even so it's really fun and has enough gameplay to make it worth buying. Not a perfect game, but a valiant effort. The sequel isn't quite as... Tight?
Great gameplay. Atrocious story (both in SoW and SoM). Really wish the games had been more compatible with the lore.
Celebrimbor looks great but his personality was a tad shit(more so in SoW)
>Celebrimbor looks great but his personality was a tad shit
I found him to be the best written character in the Shadow duology. Not that it's saying much, but he's overall entertaining if nothing else.
Celebrimbors attitude made perfect sense though. When it was said he lost part of himself crafting the ring, that wasn't poetic licence. He literally tore his spirit apart
I've seen someone wave this off as spiritual mumbojumbo in a previkous thread months ago, like they didn't know the first thing about LoTR. A lot of fans somehow don't know that Gandalf is a spirit, not a Man
>When it was said he lost part of himself crafting the ring, that wasn't poetic licence. He literally tore his spirit apart.
Which should be impossible to do, in his case. Only the Ainur seem to be able to poar their power and spirit into the creation of objects and shaping of things. Best Celebrimbor could have done would be to exaust all his knowledge and craftsmanship into the crafting of that ring.
There's also the issue of his spirit returning to Middle-Earth, rather than staying in the Halls of Mandos.
I just think the attitude of wanting to not only destroy Sauron but dethrone as well, by what ever means, seems a bit out of character.
If he were still an elf you'd have a point, but he's not.
He's a Wraith
>more compatible with the lore.
I think they did an okay-job considering that they can't use the Silmarillion, and can't overlap with the two movies. Lore's fricked up but it reinforces many of their themes, mainly the part about how absolute material power (represented by the Rings) eventually corrupts and gives everyone bad-ends.
"Hammerhand" using a hammer though, that's really off.
>They can't use the Silmarillion
I thought they actually could, when it comes to videogames.
>"Hammerhand" using a hammer though, that's really off.
True. Also plenty of other things, such as Nazguls Isildur, Hammerhand and (not)Ar-Pharazon, are weird changes.
They can't, Tolkien Sr only sold the rights to LOTR and Hobbit, and his estate has never licensed Silmarillion or other of Tolkien's work for any media. They've even tried to sue WB for making LOTR videogames previously under the claim that the rights sold in '69 didn't cover digital media.
The only bits of lore that WB could use are from LOTR and Hobbit's appendices, everything else is made up and maybe they had to deliberately avoid having it look like the Silmarillion? That part idk really.
pacing killed it for me. first one was kino
I honestly would've preferred the theme if they kept the nemesis system and had you playing as an Uruk that could be customised/developed using essentially the same system. Orcs assuming command by beating others into submission makes perfect sense, whereas Talion was the most edgy teenage weird "lore" to be injected into the Tolkien setting, except maybe chick Shelob (why?).
Those things said, I enjoyed the game anyway, but it could've been better.
It wouldn't work, orcs cannot resurrect.
Orcs being revived through necromancy is a thing
Mate, I "killed" this one uruk upwards of six or seven times before he finally stopped showing up covered in more and more bindings, staples, stitches and prosthetics. You could have settings where your character always miraculously survives, or that he has about the same chance as the npc uruks, and if he dies you reroll. Or time rolls back, whichever.
the gimmick is great and they made it fairly clear how they would place quite fast and loose with the setting.
the blandness is visible but the antagonistic tamagochi angle makes up for it.
I had fun with it, even if it felt repetitive after a while. I need to start a new save though. I'm pretty sure I fricked up my first and only run through it.
Not really but it was fun.
I had some fun with it. I should go back and get all the achievements I guess.
The nemesis system is perhaps the most promising thing I have seen in the past decade of gaming. The potential to take that further is truly mind boggling and would unironically revolutionize gaming.
Its a real shame they patented it or whatever.
By patenting it, they are also forced to reveal its full design and internal mechanics, which means when the patent lapses in 2035 you can copy/paste it whole. For now, if you reeeeeaaaaally want to use it, you can go through their patent application, modify or omit some major component and it's enough to bypass the patent protection. It's like copying grade school homework.
post spider mommy
It was a 10/10 game until I saw a black person in it and ruined my day
the story was atrocious but damn the gameplay was so good