Was it really a 64-bit console?
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Was it really a 64-bit console?
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As if anybody who bought it could describe what that means.
Don't need to describe what it means when I know it was worse than Playstation in every possible way
wrong
>bought both, had fun
Yes otherwise explain Donkey Kong 64
No it was a failed gimmick
>No it was a failed gimmick
Literally most software and hardware today is influenced by the N64.
False. Nobody can cite any specific examples. There's more proof it did harm than good.
The introduction of the analog stick. The mechanism was so influential the PS adopted it for a mid-generation refresh of their initial controller. It was standardized thereafter across the board.
>The introduction of the analog stick
Vectrex, 1982, self centering analog pointer
>The mechanism
optical sensor, derived from ball mice.
>PS adopted it for a mid-generation refresh
ALPS pointer, smaller version of the Vectrex pointer. Identical mechanism, the one we use going forward.
Saturn and PlayStation also had analog controllers, Saturns in particular is notable for basically being failure-proof and using the same analog input scheme as its mission stick.
Sega and Nintendo didn't invent video games but they are the best at video games. Sony is literally propped up by the success of Nintendo and Microsoft is literally propped up by the success of Sega. SNES CD > PlayStation, Dreamcast > Xbox. Simple as.
Sony is not SCE, SCE is video games, and started as a passion project between Sony music and Ken Kutaragi, who are not video games. Kutaragi is however, video games and is one of the smartest minds to ever touch gaming, his ambition and desire to get even after a toy company (nintendo) snubbed his company and stabbed him in the back. His company, SCE and its many partners in gaming brought high speed 3D to mainstream consumers at a never before seen price, brought developers more money, created more opportunities for developers and with the help of SN Systems redefined how games are developed for the better.
Segabros….
The Saturn 3D Pad is legit the best retro controller of all time. If you put a second stick to it, you could play any retro game from today. It feels amazing to hold, even if it looks like a saucer.
And the thumbstick has the same feel as modern thumbsticks. It's nothing like the N64 one.
The implementation for near 360 degree motion at varying levels of extremity outside of simply being the 4/8 directional inputs in an analog-stick was implemented first with the N64's stick. Don't be willfully obtuse.
Actually, after doing some digging, I've found that there was a Japan exclusive controller made by a 3rd-Party company called Denpa that has an actual analog thumbstick called the XE-1 AP. This preceded the N64 by about 6 years. So, despite not necessarily being an evident point of influence for the adoption of the sticks, there is actually a predecessor. Unexpected.
A joystick isn't an analog stick.
Correct, the Vectrex has an analog stick. Look it up if you're not sure v02mg
>last mainstream console to use ROMs
>unusual controller that confounds morons and zoomers
>proprietary processor that held back emulation progress for years
I love the N64 and its games but don't go lying about shit
according to the more tech savy people, it's actually two 32bit hardware taped on top of one another. and 32 + 32 = 64 right bros??
yeah but who cares, its competitor was 32 bit and they didn't feel the need to pump up excitement, it played fricking discs, a superior media.
64-bit addresses, 32-bit values
official mips source code has a heavy presence of the 'lw' or 'load word' instruction which is 32-bits in width.
>it played fricking discs, a superior media.
Oh so that's why hard disk drives are increasing in popularity?
>DISK drive
yes actually
Are you thinking of the Jaguar? The N64 was a proper 64 bit console.
bits are silly and complicated, but mostly silly
>he doesn't have a 7800-bit console
ngmi
Atari-sama I kneel
The frick controller is that? This is the one that came with mine. Is that the EU design or something?
its the "first image on google" design
I bet you believe in Santa Claus
then who the frick ate my christmas cookies
I bet one day this is going to turn out like Flat Earth and genuine morons will actually start believing Santa's real and it'll be a whole conspiracy.
>*insert "Any community that gets its laughs" quote here*
Wtf Santa Claus is real
>put out cookies and milk
>come out on Christmas morning
>cookies have been eaten, milk is gone
Checkmate atheist.
ngl I teared up when I realized the truth as a child
>I bet you believe in Santa Claus
Yes
Next you're gonna tell me Slash isn't real
have a nice day Huey
The processor could technically support 64-bit memory addressing but since the memory was 4/8 MB it doesn't matter. All games used 32-bit mode because there's no point using 64-bit pointers when your RAM is so small.
What about the expansion pak games? What of smaller games?
You only need 64-bit memory addressing if you have more than 4 GB of RAM.
Yes, the CPU was a 64-bit NEC VR4300.
More bits doesn't mean better though, it's clock speed was 93.75 MHz, significantly worse than a Pentium II.
comparisons regarding clock speed for a desktop computer with a complex operating system running multiple programs in the background and clock speeds for a system designed to do one thing is unfair.
>Not even 100Mhz
>Still provided some of the best games of the generation and all time
Where did the industry go so wrong? PS3? More power over the years has not put out better games. I still go back to Morrowind and Age of Empires 2 instead of the modern version.
People didn't care about the power race that much until gen 8
When israelites saw videogames as a bigger softpower than holywood
Yes, the CPU was 64bit, and we didn't get another 64bit console until the PS4/XBONE
I love checking out old news report about the n64
>that one old news report about SNES from parents complaining that they had to buy another console despite already owning an NES
dumb boomers
That's some quality shit right there. Nice post.
>processor can do 64 bit floating point math
>mostly uses 8 bit integer math
>often uses 16 bit
>at best 32-bit integers
>floating points are 64-bit accurate in its environments consisting of 6 polygons
>has 4 controller ports
>makes it 6...4 bit
>and there's only 6 games worth playing on it
>only lasted 4 years on the market
In many ways...it is a six-four bit console. In many ways.
This anon has it right. Basically, NEC/Hudson Soft set the precedent that you could market a console based on the highest bit interface within the console [PC Engine/Turbografx 16 was a 8-bit CPU with 16-bit graphics]. At the same time, PC's were migrating from 16-bit to 32-bit beyond fringe cases like the Amiga and ST. This led to a scenario where the premium PC-lite consoles were all 32-bit.
Atari combined the value of two 32-bit processors to claim '64-bit' in a marketing strategy. If Sega had been allowed to do the same thing, they could have claimed the Saturn was 96-bit based on its processors [see the US Nights commercial for how they might have done this]. The N64 leaned into the 64-bit part of its structure for the perception of power over the 'close to a later 486 CPU' PS1.
Actual 64-bit computing didn't come until the late 90's and all consoles ran on 32-bit software until the XBONE/PS4 standardized hardware.
It was just two 32 bit consoles glued together.
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>Sonic represents minorities
>hanging Sonic is a dogwhistle to lynchings
>Nintendo will be investigated for racism
t. CNN today
sonic the nignog
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more like ass processing.
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Yeah, just like the Jaguar
N64 pre-renders were max SOUL
>wario fricking dies
Wario's immortal bro, play the Wario Land series
>you remember how when you were young your older cousins told you that taking the train tracks was a shortcut
It’s awesome
Was it REALLY a 64 bit console?
This one was way more hacky of a "64" bit classification IIRC.
N64 games
or Pam's boobies
Nintendo 64
homes
Can someone explain what species this controller was made for?
I came to realize that the idea is that you have three methods of holding it depending on the game being played: both outer handles; the left and center handle; and the center and right handles combined respectively. Every configuration provides a trigger button and might have been meant to facilitate different game designs taking advantage of the new stick.
i dont want to do combinatorics to play a videogame. I was asking what species this controller was made for hunnie. its clearly not human
>controller grips
>combinatorics
Get ready for derivative functions.
>derivative functions
those photographs have people with 3 fingers not 3 hands
True 3d games were new and the possibilities were unknown. It's like if the wii was good, it had to have a new controller for supposedly new kinds of games. Except the wii was an underpowered calculator unlike the N64 which singed eyebrows.
Me.
Same as the DS.
It will become obvious which combination to use depending on what game you're playing.
>fps controls
huh, i use the c-buttons for strafing and the analog for aiming like in Turok or 1.2 Goldeneye
I thought this was going to be the edit with the foreskin
See back in those days we still didn't know if 3D gaming was the future or just a shitty gimmic fated to fail. The pre-N64 games sure didn't fill us with confidence, so Nintendo needed a 2D gamepad setup to fall back on just in case since the N64 was going to be their main console for the next half decade.
Then SM64 came out and everyone was like "damn 3D games can be good". Then OOT came out and everyone abandoned 2D gaming forever.
Why did this controller filter so many people? You just move your left hand between the left and middle handles for 2D or 3D games, it is so simplistic
I'm surprised these people don't try to play games with their sphincters.
Cope zoomie
When I was a kid, I checked. It was only like 61 or 62 bits, tops.
Definitely. DK64, Perfect Dark and Conker are proof.
It could do 64 bit indeed, but most games opted to use 32 bit mode because it was easier.
I like the N64 controller and how tactile the analog stick is, it gives more pushback than other sticks
Doesn't mean in retrospect it isn't fricking hilarious that they made a three pronged monstrosity and Sony just slapped some sticks on
First thing idiots do with the 64 controller is grab the left handle and reach over, I'm surprised that got past any design phase when they should have seen the idea right there
they grab it like this
i held it like that. i knew it was wrong but the proper penis grip hold cramped my hand for some reason. somehow getting arthritis at 8 years old maybe
Don't need to tell myself, Vectrex tells me just by looking inside. Here, look at this. Now you can stop living in denial. Bottom is a switch pro analog stick. It's a spring self centering stick in two crossing levers that rotate potentiometers on the X and Y axis. That's what an analog stick has been since the 80s. Nintendos version is a tweak based on this, but today we just use a slightly smaller version of what's inside the vectrex.
Don't be a contrarian, just realize you were wrong.
It is excellent and I cleaned one of the 3D sticks recently, it really is built to never fail. Brilliant design. Even reassembly of the module is surprisingly easy.
did it really hold more than 400 titles?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/10/the-n64-encyclopedia-offers-nintendo-fans-an-exhaustive-overview-of-the-64-bit-era
Games used every bits except 64
8bit cartridges, 9bit memory, 15bit colors, 16bit SIMD unit, 18bit pixels (colors + AA coverage), 24bit colors, 32bit general math, 128bit SIMD blocks (8x16 bits per number, processed in parallel to perform 8 instructions in the time of one).
You CAN use 64bit for general math, but it's completely useless, as 32bit is more than enough for any sort of game math and it use less cache memory etc etc..
Alot of people dont know about this but nintendo locked off 1bit so it was actually 63bits with 1 made un useable by nintendo.
To this day I still think the D pad was largely included in case Nintendo wanted to put some SNES compilations on it, like how that console had Mario All-Stars
stiffy