Was this the last soulful RPG ever created?

Was this the last soulful RPG ever created?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The best thing to ever come out of Bioware

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's inferior to Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 in literally every single aspect. Including the graphics.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      BG2 is better

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't like the combat, and II isn't terrible, but yeah.
    I was gonna say the Witcher 1, but that came out two years prior to DA:O.
    It's amazing how much the genre has stagnated since then.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The combat was fire though. It's 3rd person 3D so it gaslights you into thinking it's skill based, but really it's RTwP, which in turn is just turn-based with extra steps. Once you realize that and get a handle on tactics it's easily the most rewarding combat in the series.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        While I agree that the combat system has potential (even it is RTwP...) the problem with the first Dragon Age was the encounter design or rather lack thereof.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >II isn't terrible
      it is though

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Witcher 3 was the last one unless you count Kenshi's 1.0 release

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No that would be Horizon Forbidden West

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      lel

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The cutscenes were great for 2009 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVrXW0WVXYw

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I miss bioware rpgs bros. They nailed the comfy party adventures feeling.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much. I still replay it now and then. I practically know the whole game like the back of my hand.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Mfw trying to play inquisition
    Even with mods to ease the shittyness this game isnt that good.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Inquisition is a weird one for me. As a storygay who loves a good CYOA narrative, I treat DA:I as interactive fiction, and on that account the writing and pacing is actually really good. But the combat is so abysmally boring, it feels like I'm grinding to get to the good parts. I think I'd unironically play a mod that just outright removes all combat from the game.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I treat DA:I as interactive fiction
        That's what it was designed to be like. The game is only good if you install a bunch of QoL mods and turn the difficulty all the way down so you can power through the dogshit gameplay to get to the next story point.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The melee combat in DA:I is unironically better than TW3's yet people can't stop sucking off Witcher

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pic not related.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was, even though David Gaider is an atrocious fricking writer and all the dialogue he was involved in is cringe as frick

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How do you know what dialogue he was specifically involved in?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Look up the characters he wrote. Alistair, for example

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Wdym anon, Alistair's dialogue is the best. He is my favorite character and RO.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The character itself isn't bad but the dialogue clashes with what you'd expect from that sort of rpg. He talks like a current year character, is as obnoxious as joker route Hawke and says shit like "yeah, swooping is bad"

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >people didn't make jokes in medieval times

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >acting like a quirky character in a sitcom is a "joke"
                is this really what passes for humor? are standards that low? how long until rpg companions just start shouting bazinga?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe more homosexual

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You could criticize Gaider for all of his other shitty work, but he's very good in DAO. Alistair and Morrigan are still the best Bioware companions to date

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If they just kept to the same formula, fixed and tweaked the combat and updated graphics, along with expanding on the world then the series could have been the best CRPG series of all time. But EA.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >fixed and tweaked the combat
      This, I've played it like 3 times and the combat never gets old for me, even weak builds like 2h warriors can cleave mooks like nothing, CC and deal ok single target damage if you manually weave your skills between hits.
      Even the OP as frick mages aren't too bad if you don't have more than 1 in your party, I always played them as CC monsters + cone spells for more CC and delete mooks so I didn't get why everyone kept b***hing about them I played a 2 mage party dropping fireballs easily clearing full rooms like nothing

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pathfinder Kingmaker and WotR would like a word.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >:13

      Once you get past the tutorial, you run into an giant ad for paid DLC, so no. Stop being a little b***h and play Pathfinder already.

      >:16
      M8.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Once you get past the tutorial, you run into an giant ad for paid DLC, so no. Stop being a little b***h and play Pathfinder already.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      DA:O hasn't been sold without the DLC bundled together with it since like 2012 or something anon, plus I'm not sure what you are talking about

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BG3 is looking pretty good, despite the hate it gets here.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Does BG3 get hate here? I'm looking forward to it too. I'm a big fan of D&D 5e and I like the turn-based approach and the bioware-like party dialogue. I've even played 60 hours of the early access. But Dragon Age Origins is just in another league, BG3 in comparison is like trying to scratch an itch that won't scratch.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You get the people who think you can only either enjoy Pathfinder or BG3 or Pillars etc. They can't comprehend that a single person could enjoy all of them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There’s three types of people
        Some dislike that it’s using the name despite being only indirectly connected to the previous two games, which is fair enough
        Some have a console war tier mentality when comparing it to Pathfinder, which is fricking moronic since you can easily buy or pirate both with minimal effort
        The third is a single schizo that that has alerts set up for any BG3 thread and promptly spams any political bait he can to derail it and samegays replies if nobody takes the bait. It’s downright peculiar

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Some dislike that it’s using the name despite being only indirectly connected to the previous two games, which is fair enough
          The other end of this coin is people for whom the "original game" is tabletop dungeons & dragons. Fans of BG1 and BG2 seem to forget they're playing an adaption of a game that already had an existing community and following before these games existed, and BG3 is a different studio's attempt to adapt the new ruleset to the same setting. To think BG3 isn't faithful to its roots is just ignorant.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm a big fan of D&D 5e
        why?
        5e its works for tabletop players since it streamlines encounters but in vidya is a straight downgrade.
        Try out Solasta if you haven't and see for yourself, after a few levels everything is a health sponge

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't get more hate than any other game with Larian humor but I will always prefer that over games that are completely up their own ass serious

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Age Origins (2009)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Age Origins (2009)

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >western game
    >soul
    Basic ass sword n magic is the least soulful setting there has ever been
    All variations of it are the same

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      DA:O is shamelessly ripping off the LOTR-esque fantasy setting but with a grimdark twist, with clear ASOIAF influences. And some of the concepts it plays with within the regular fantasy cliches (the whole system with the circle of magi and templars, the fade, etc.) is refreshingly original, strong fantasy worldbuilding. It embraced the tropes rather than using them as a crutch like a lot of devs may. But perhaps the best part about it is that it doesn't feel like it's using its free license as a video game to cut corners, it actually takes itself seriously and succeeds at being competent. The writing in this game could pass as a bestselling fantasy novel from the shelf of a bookstore during the time when it was created, and I say that as somebody who has been consuming fantasy since I was little.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Playing the doubles advocate, the mages/Templar conflict was pretty clearly ripped from wheel of time, and since Martin lifted plenty from Jordan too, the ASOIAF references could pretty easily be from there too.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Sure maybe, and to your credit I actually haven't finished WoT (not looking forward to author switch even though I trust Sanderson)
          But where I noticed ASOIAF influences in DA:O is because the A plot is completely identical. An existential ancient threat in the form of supernatural undead creatures is about to come out of nowhere and destroy everything, but the realms of men are too busy infighting in politics and lust for power that they don't take the threat seriously.
          Ostagar = The Wall
          Korcari Wilds = The North
          Wilderfolk = Wildlings (lol)
          Darkspawn = The Others
          And so on and so forth, I'm sure there's a lot more, to the point where I consider it deliberate homage.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What a moronic take

      The biggest problem with eastern games is the often lack soul no matter how good they are, something classic western games never struggled with

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Witcher 3
    and cyberpunk will be good in 10 years when witcher 4 comes out

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    gays can say whatever shit about this game, but frick me if its ambience it's not kino af

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Loghain did nothing wrong. Which of you stood against the Orlesian emperor when his troops flattened your fields and raped your wives?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Considering the only thing you know of the Orlesians comes from Loghain's biased mouth, I didn't pay attention to anything that racist frick said before executing him

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Considering the only thing you know of the Orlesians comes from Loghain's biased mouth
        Well I mean you can recruit and stick your dick in a red-headed Orlesian, so not just Loghain.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          In DA:I half the game takes place in Orlais.
          Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts remains one of the best quests in the entire franchise. I'd play an entire game focused just on court intrigue alone.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          one of the party members was Orlesian? Man, haven't played DA:O in years

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, the lisping redhead bard lady

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Frick Morrigan
      >Marry Anora
      >Recruit Loghain
      >Let him sacrifice himself

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Completed origins like 3 times is it worth to play DA2?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No. Inquisition is worth it though, if you can push through the MMORPG-like combat.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone stop this insane elf from seducing my wife with blood magic?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I would have to watch first to make a decision

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why would I stop it?

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can you pick up those things on the railing, re-arrange them or throw them off? No, you can't. That's why Skyrim is better. Worlds that aren't fully interactive are so 2010

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Give me 10/10 quest after 10/10 quest over being able to pick up a goblet.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This game is the Drive (2011) of RPGs, Ganker men play it because of self-inserting and wanting to have personality was like the broody main character.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >RPG
      >your roleplaying choices are Geralt of Rivia, Geralt of Rivia and Geralt of Rivia

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also Ciri

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >what is Planescape Torment
        >what is Gothic 1/2
        >what is every single Ultima game where Avatar is literally Jesus
        >what is Disco Elsyium
        >what is.....
        have a nice day zoomie

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >generic protagonists with no set backstory, personality or relationships are the same as some homosexual with multiple books written about him
          Frick off.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >generic protagonists with no set backstory, personality or relationships are the same as some homosexual with multiple books written about him
            >Planescape Torment
            >Disco Elsyium
            >Fricking Avatar from Ultima 7
            Stop typing zoomie. Just hide behind your anonymity and take the L instead of pretending you've played any of those games.

            Don't worry, I won't put it on my tally board.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Avatar literally has 5+ games building his backstory and is literally a fricking prophet in most of the games. Planescape Torment also literally revolves around the protag finding out about his insane backstory you fricking Black person

              I only played Gothic from your gay little list. Don't care about "RPGs" with predefined protags. Might as well go play J"RPGs" you homosexuals. :^)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I only played Gothic from your gay little list.
                Then stop typing homosexual
                >Don't care about "RPGs" with predefined protags. Might
                Make sure you reply once more letting me know how much you "don't care"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Avatar literally has 5+ games building his backstory and is literally a fricking prophet in most of the games. Planescape Torment also literally revolves around the protag finding out about his insane backstory you fricking Black person

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            meant for

            >generic protagonists with no set backstory, personality or relationships are the same as some homosexual with multiple books written about him
            Frick off.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that's the role geralt of rivia the Witcher not rando mchomosexual
        so yeah you roleplay as him

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >roleplay as boring McGenericGruff
          >haha there's a funny a scene where he has to wear rabbit ears at a wedding so random lol
          the state of W3 gays

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was mediocre overall, honestly.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      still better than 99% of recent releases, which is depressing tbh

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      still better than 99% of recent releases, which is depressing tbh

      You're both wrong, it was excellent

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        combat could be better

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I've finished the game in nightmare multiple times and combat is alright, low level combat is shit since classes barely works with barebones skills/spells, unless you're a backstabbing rogue, combat is solid after Redcliffe

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, at least half of the game is just boring shit. The setting overall is boring and uninspired outside of the Mage dilemma which was handled like shit in the sequels anyway. The party member banter and dialogue is fantastic and plentiful, and the party AI scripting is great, but everything else is shallow and uninteresting.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >take her with you to the deep roads
      >don't bring Anders because why the frick would you
      >she dies anyway

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For it's time definitely, it was way ahead of the curve as there was nothing even close to it and it was clear it was going to be the spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate going forward, and then DA2 happened.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is one of those games that no matter how old it gets, I cannot think of it as an old game. It just feels like a modern AAA blockbuster forever. Maybe it’s because of Marilynn Manson’s “This is the new shit” in the trailer.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, I feel the same way and I've never seen the trailer.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >soulful
    Have you actually played this piece of shit recently? There's so much pointless fighting the same 3 enemy types over and over again, it could've been a good game if they cut out 75% of pointless fighting and instead made the fights you do get into dangerous and requiring much strategy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i remember having a hard time on nightmare difficulty, given it was my first playthrough, did they add some op dlc equipment or what?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Some but even without it there just isn't much depth to the combat, certainly not enough to justify all the encounters they force on you. I don't see how anyone doesn't get tired of it by halfway through the game.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The default edition of the game now comes with all the DLC, and it's an onslaught of OP DLC equipment, it frankly ruins the game. Thankfully it can be disabled though.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No. Divinity Original sin 2 came out in 2017. Literally nothing good has came out since then.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Deadfire did
      >inb4 gay fish game bad

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it's gonna be shit, that's obvious.

    But the real question: is it gonna be worse than Inquisition?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There better be an actual dread wolf and not just some dude who calls himself dreadwolf

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, I...

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They've ruined it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They've ruined it

          tbh Solas is a redeeming factor of DA:I

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If it's as good as inquisition I will be happy. I have a feeling it'll be better though, it's too interesting of a story for them to frick up. (If you played the Solas romance you know...)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It'll be like Andromeda and Anthem i.e. nice environment art with basic core gameplay that is flashy and briefly satisfying, but everything else is like woke focus group tested fanfic of peak Bioware.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      On par or below from Inquisition. The woke shit will ruin it regardless, but it'll be one of those "worth a pirate" games.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      inquziton bad cuz vee say so XD

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well? Tell us, what did you like about it?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Inquisition is the single player MMO with the most uninspired boring world in the series yet. It's lifeless, sterile and slugish, its fantasy aspects are so generic it just hurts.
        Shitquisition is objectively the lowest point of the series and worst game.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >hurr durr single player MMO
          Ah you are another parrot then

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            He's right though. The level design reflects that of MMORPGs, with the "open world" segments just being sprawling mob zones punctuated with small ares with quest NPCs, and the combat moving from tactical RPG to stat battle clicker game.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >male human noble warrior
    >romance morrigan
    >save connor
    >save eamon
    >save the mages
    >save the ashes of andraste
    >make peace with elves and werewolves
    >bhelen on the throne
    >destroy the anvil
    >take grimoire peacefully
    >retrieve stens sword
    >avernus research with ethics
    >harden alistair
    >harden leliana
    >have the threesome
    >have the ritutal
    >unite all of Ferelden
    >personally kill howe
    >personally kill vaughan
    >personally kill marjolaine
    >personally kill uldred
    >personally kill jowan
    >personally kill branka
    >personally kill kolgrim
    >personally kill the broodmother
    >personally kill the archdemon
    >alistair & anora on the throne
    >friends with everyone
    >redeem loghain
    >side with the architect
    >fight with the messenger
    >save both amarathine and vigils keep
    >hook finn and ariane up
    >go into the portal with morrigan
    >sit and watch entire credits to 30 Seconds to Mars This is War

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Gay

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Its been so long since I played all I remember is enchantment

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      My homie. The absolute golden run.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no lmao, this is very much nu-bioware, kotor was too btw

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Very subpar bait, try again

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it's not bait at all. those games are garbage.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You can tell how dumb a fanbase is based on how often they say things like "soul" or "comfy"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      so you want to be uncomfortable while you play soulless games?

      Oh boy have i got the game for you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yeah frick being comfortable while playing good games!!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        feet

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Foot

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dragon Age Inquisition's combat is:
    >Hold down LMB and spam numbers assigned to spells/abilities
    >Everything's on a cooldown, so just keep doing this
    >Keep doing this for 10 minutes
    >If your stats are better than the opponent's stats, you win
    Repeat forever with the same opponents and same abilities.
    Origins combat was essentially the same, but you actually had to move companions out of AoE and target the most threatening enemies, so unlike Inquisition, it almost felt like a game.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My husbando.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Quads

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And my wife!

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, this was the first game BioWare made after the EA acquisition and it shows. The difference in philosophy between it and Mass Effect is staggering.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      In DLC/marketing philosophy, maybe. But admit it, the base game itself is uncompromised.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That transition in quality between Mass Effect 1 and Origins, on to Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 is so obvious. You can tell all the competent writers/developers etc were probably starting to leave the company and being replaced with talentless people. It shows the beginning of the end for Bioware.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Atom is good.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >indie
      >default unity3d shading
      Hard pass

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No it was casualized shit for normies compared to Bg1/2

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >muh new graphics = bad!!
      >true rpgs must be isometric 16x16 tiled

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I was mainly talking about the mechanics, but I do believe the infinity engine games (especially bg2 and iwd) aged better than most 3d games from that era.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Come on now, not even us certified boomers think that

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Dragon Age games (Origins included) stands out with a weird quirk from every other CRPG in the sense that maybe 25%-30% of its fanbase is female, and its female following is extremely devoted to the series, into lore, completionism, etc. For the new game coming out DA4/dreadwolf it's even higher, the vast majority of people I've seen following news about it are women, I'd estimate something like 60% based on what I've seen. Name another franchise like this, and try to figure out why the stats are like this. Do you think Bioware is aware of this discrepancy?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Do you think Bioware is aware of this discrepancy?
      Well aware. My sisters favourite game series of all time is Mass Effect. She didn't really enjoy Origins, but she also loved DA2 and Inquisition.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >She didn't really enjoy Origins, but she also loved DA2 and Inquisition
        Tell your sister to choke on a dick

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, you can't just go around telling your siblings to choke on your dick.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but anon said "a" dick, not your dick. Why would the first dick that pops into your head be yours? I think you are projecting.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Well it's the closest dick you can get, and choke on for that matter, so it makes sense.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Tell your sister to choke on a dick
          She's married, but I'll put the word in.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >She didn't really enjoy Origins, but she also loved DA2 and Inquisition.
        That seems to be the common opinion among them. It's rare to see a girl explicitly preferring Origins over those two.
        I suspect it's the general art direction and atmosphere of Origins being grounded and very dark that repels them from fully enjoying the game.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Does the fact that my gf likes Origins the most and that she was raised by a single father have any sort of correlation?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Do you think Bioware is aware of this discrepancy?
      Yes, it's why their games lean heavily into interpersonal relationships, wokeshit, and female brained dialogue. It's been like this since kotor and maybe even earlier to a smaller degree.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >dragon shit
    >soulful

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nice bait, for a franchise with "Dragon" in the title there are actually a very small few dragons in Dragon Age, especially DA:O.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No more than the Witcher or Gothic series.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There was... a time before... a time above... there were perfect things... diamonds... absolute...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      sovl

      EA truly fricked them over. ME3 forever killed my trust in Bioware and still when I first launched Inquisition I was shocked by the sheer soullessness of everything: narrative, gameplay, art direction, but most of all music. When I first heard that dawn will come song I just quit the game out of sheer disgust and cringe. Jesus wtf happened to the series.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What did you do to make your whole team disapprove of you by 50 points?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >When I first heard that dawn will come song I just quit the game out of sheer disgust and cringe.
        Rose tinted glasses. Leliana's Song in DA:O is equally as cringe, if not more cringe, than The Dawn Will Come in DA:I.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anders was on my team a lot because he was so funny,

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Awakening sucks

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