> Well, according to Zelda director Hidemaro Fujibayashi, the various towers, Guardians, Divine Beasts and other Sheikah creations simply disappeared, with the general consensus in Hyrule being that as their purpose had been realised, the tech knew it was its time to go.
Video games do not need a story. Miyamoto was right. If you're mad about his explanation you are an autist.
Video games do not need to be $60 DLCs.
Seth more snoy
It was ok when every Megaman series did it.
none of them ever copypaste level design
eh
megaman had unique everything except for basic gameplay
This is the most schizophrenic thing I've read all day
>it's not a reboot that completely changes everything from map to combat, therefore it's just a dlc
I guess by those rules, majora's mask was nothing more than a 50$ dlc. And bayonetta 2, halo 2, warcraft 2, dead space 2, banjo tooie, Fallout New Vegas, Pikmin 2, the list goes on.
>plot twist the whole '60$ dlc' meme is snoys coping with the fact that none of their bootleg hollywood 'narrative driven' games are successful enough to warrant a sequel, so now every sequel to a game is 'just a dlc'.
Kek you mentioning ER just reminded me, every Fromsoft game is virtually identical game mechanically, so I guess Dark Souls 1, 2, 3, Elden Ring, those are all also nothing more than expensive dlcs for demon's souls. The only game that's actually distinct among them is bloodborne and not by much.
you never played them tranny
I played all 3 DaS games, so no, you are wrong, I know exactly what I'm talking about. If we go by the same standard, all souls games are glorified dlcs of DeS.
wooooooooooooooow
all 3 dark souls games????
truly a wide and diverse selection of from's modern library
it's no wonder you tendietroons are seen as jokes
Forgot pic
lmao, black spider man has lightning powers too?! Man, that trope refuses to die. I thought the miles morales character was more modern and progressive.
>he forgot the most memorable of them all
$70*
>the Sheikah died on the way back to their home planet
The rotting husks of guardians that peppered Hyrule for a century suddenly "knew it was time to go"? What a fucking hack.
Was it really too hard to add some scatter terrain and some NPC dialogue how they are "sleeping"?
You mean the things they did by writing and game design which any one who actually played and paid attention would know.
Reminder Toriyama thought SS3 was 2. They don't give a fuck about remembering this shit.
>Reminder Toriyama thought SS3 was 2.
Doesn't he NOT mention that in his manga though? he calls it "Ascending past a Super Saiyan", it's the anime dub that gives it the moniker SSJ2
I love Nintendo for how they work. They do not give a fuck about you laughable autistic virgins crying over "muh lore".
Nintendo just want to make fun and engaging games. God bless Nintendo.
Yes we know that Nintendo is for children and man children.
only people who care about muh lore in these kind of games are manchildren
>They do not give a fuck about you laughable autistic virgins crying over "muh lore".
And yet they keep giving bullshit explanations and creating retarded timelines. I think they just can't find competent writers.
I don't think they have any writers and it should stay that way. what they do right now works for them. autist should stick to rpgs if they need a story.
I don't know man, is it really fun when combat has like 0.5/10 difficulty and enemies can be finessed by a toddler?
honestly, I do kinda half agree
there are way, WAY too many people these days who utterly obsess with minor details in media and expect every fictional world to be thought out with IRL levels of worldbuilding, planning, detail and explanations planned out to unreasonable levels, and those people are willing to throw out an entire good thing just because of small things which in the end are utterly meaningless to the media.
And its just nice to actually have things like Tears of the kingdom which have a huge, but utterly meaningless hole and the only explanation is essentially "I dunno, magic"
like, I really miss the days where stories could have bullshit explanations like "its magic/Science/a mystery" and people would just accept it without putting much thought into it.
but nope, these days everything has to have an in depth reason that makes 100% sense in universe, even if its something that ultimately does not affect the story at all regardless of if its random BS or a 'lore accurate' explanation, because mysteries are 'bad writing', unexplained things are 'bad writing', the lack of minor details is 'bad writing' and I am genuinely sick of it
I'm fine with low effort work if the game is priced accordingly,
>these days everything has to have an in depth reason that makes 100% sense in universe
Yeah, because it's called GOOD WRITING.
Literally literature 101 since the early 20th century.
This is why the zoomer media suck ass and is so utterly brain numbing + disposable by nature.
There's a difference between explaining something with magic because it's cool and using at a crutch to retcon things. It's fine for a game to be absurd/ridiculous, the problem is when you tout something as a sequel and then don't make any effort to connect it to the previous entry in a satisfying way, to the point where not playing BotW actually makes the game more enjoyable.
This. They fucking didn't even say the NAMES of the past champions. That's un fucking acceptable. There's too much worrying about detail then there's justifying weird asspulls. We didn't even get a fucking name drop for best Zora girl. That's bullshit and they know it. It was just made as an excuse for them to change 3D model locations without anyone caring.
>They fucking didn't even say the NAMES of the past champions.
If you played the game, you would have found an entirely new beautiful landmark devoted to a previous champion and even has a statue of them.
Retards gonna retard I guess.
It's not new though, they just moved her statue away from the domain to make room for a statue of Link and Sidon having gay sex.
Yeah its just moving the ingame model. Also they still don't namedrop any previous champion.
https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Mipha_Court
There's literally entire questlines in Gerudo where they talk about how awesome Urbosa is and they send you on a journey to recreate her weapons. Daruk has an entire statue in his image and is talked about by several NPC's in town. Revali gets the least mention but is still discussed during quests in bird town.
Did any of you freaks actually play this game that you complain about?
>Did any of you freaks actually play this game that you complain about?
Of course they didn't. They desperately want to hate the game. To somehow "prove" that the game didn't deserve all its acclaim and success.
But they can't think up a single convincing argument. So instead they cope by shitposting on Ganker.
>anyone who criticizes the game didn't play it
Or maybe not everyone is a weird Nintendo cultist
>criticizes
Where? What "criticism"?
>spew lies like “the past champions aren’t even mentioned”
>call it criticism
????
Sounds like you avert your eyes anyone says anything negative. Or is this your first Zelda thread on Ganker?
>We didn't even get a fucking name drop for best Zora girl
She gets mentioned by a couple of NPCs in Zora's domain, she's the prime motivation of Sidon to overcome his fear of losing those he cares/loves, and the little fact that she was an entire fucking area named after her and her statue.
Mipha's Court is so nice I something just hangout there and enjoy the views.
nerds
You're in Ganker. You're either a nerd or a retard. Kind of outing yourself as the second.
you talk like you're nerds, getting butthurt over lore and shit.
Imagine criticizing stuff about a game instead of defending a multi billion dollar company for free. So nerdy and cringe.
Oh my fucko pops, slay queen!
>le reddit
successfully mindbroken
totk stands on it's own, it doesn't need botw. you don't need to play another game to get it, you don't need to have callbacks to dead characters to understand what's going on. Like any zelda game, it's a hero's journey, not a part of some multiverse extended universe.
it stands on it's own
I think that TotK is less like a sequel, but a REDO of BotW for Nintendo.
And a redo of Zelda as a whole. BOTW broke all the rules, totk is integrating the old zelda beats with botw gameplay changes. Normies (and reddit tourists) were too stupid to realize that this moment in the tutorial was essentially the "IT'S DANGEROUS TO GO ALONE" moment, because it wasn't wrapped in a cutscene/walk and talk moment with an old man winking at the camera.
On Ganker*, esl
There's a difference between in depth lore and reasons for something, versus... a basic explanation for why an important part of the game world is missing. And they just hand wave it away. Stop being such a doormat.
how is that a minor detail you fucking retard, scraps of metal don't suddenly feel like leaving when they were the Reason the Kingdom fell
If you have something that exists "because magic", plays no role in the actual plot, and nobody really talks about, that's fine. If you have something that exists "because magic", has plot significance, and you at least hear some basic information on it like "it was made long ago with techniques now lost", that's fine. If you have something narratively significant in the previous game, which would solve problems in the current game, and it disappears "because magic", that's shit writing.
This is the difference between the Gossip Stones, artefacts like the Spiritual Stones, and how they treated Sheikah tech.
>steven universe was perfectly fine
suck my right
this. Elden Ring was shit because it pretended to have lore, while not actually having anything of substance. Fromsoft newcomers sucked that game off hard, and whenever you ask why there's no hubs or npc's to talk to in the game world, they shrug and say "lore! lore lore lore lore!"
Nintendo definitely gives a fuck. They are just incompetent. They tried making you feel something when Zelda became a goofy dragon. And then cared enough to give people a "happy end", returning her to human form. Same with the "companions". It's just cringe-inducing writing. If they didnt care at all, they could just leave it all out. Frankly, the game would be better off for it.
>God bless Nintendo.
God bless your mother, for I raped her asshole last night
>They tried making you feel something when Zelda became a goofy dragon. And then cared enough to give people a "happy end", returning her to human form.
TotK is a story about overcoming trauma. Every shine and heart piece Link recovers, it expells a little bit more of this trauma.
It all culminates in Link's climactic final dive to save Zelda, a second chance at redemption where he fail before. It is absolutely the most emotional and epically kino finale the series has ever had.
You could argue X is about Y all the time; doesn't mean its well written. It's asspull after asspull.
>It all culminates in Link's climactic final dive to save Zelda
The scene itself was pretty cool. Thats why im saying Nintendo completely fails in storytelling, even though they care. Her transformation is implied to turn her into an immortal dragon. Why it does, is never explained. Why Ganons transformation can be killed is also not explained. Hell, Ganons entire set of powers goes from "godlike", to "dude with weapons" whenever its convenient. With a snap of his finger he can bring back all the bosses, or destroy the Master Sword at the start, despite just having reawakened. Even if you try not to think about it, its jarring still.
So now story matters?
The ending is utterly tepid, because Link never once speaks or emotes for the entire game, and Nintendo were such autistic crybaby cowards that they refuse to even explicitly confirm they were a couple.
>Link never once speaks
Zoomed detected.
>retard on Ganker thinks his autistic screeching means more than the opinion of EDGE magazine - the most revered and respected publication in the gaming industry
Wew.
Anon I hate to break it to you but journos are famously known to be paid off or bribed by AAA companies to write positive review pieces. Can't remember his name but a guy in the industry admitted to it a few years ago, other industries do it too.
https://www.ign.com/articles/rotten-tomatoes-under-fire-after-pr-firms-scheme-to-pay-critics-for-positive-reviews-uncovered
https://www.ign.com/articles/hbo-reportedly-used-fake-accounts-to-hit-back-at-negative-reviews-on-social-media
Anon I hate to break it to you, but VidyaGamesTroons.org are not the fucking same as a publication like EDGE magazine. When EDGE magazine says something, the industry sits up and listens.
I sure as fuck would never take the opinion of some unhinged schizo on this cartoon board.
>When EDGE magazine says something, the industry sits up and listens
No, only people that get off to trannies do that.
Yeah bro, Nintendo brided a news outlet seven years after BotW released. For... reasons....
>Zoomed detected.
>Literally so mad at not having an argument that he can't even go two words without a spelling mistake
lol
Having a limited story and a lack of continuity is fine for some games (such as Mario), but when you are trying to create something more "epic" then it doesn't. People expect something grandiose for the narrative a la Lord of the Rings. Keep in mind, Nintendo showed the timeline for the series prior to BoTW coming out, so you can't get upset at fans for caring about continuity. The problem Nintendo has is they focus too much on gameplay gimmicks rather than making a good game first and its one of the Miyamoto mindviruses. ToTK is all about Ultrahand to the point they took more time working on that then making a new map. Its not surprising then that discussion of ToTK died in a few months while BoTW lasted for years. Nintendo was too married to their little idea and neglected everything else when they should have instead sent Link to a new region. ToTk is only successful because it's BOTW2. They'll likely be flabbergasted when they take the wrong lessons, take longer to make the next game, and be shocked it does significantly worse.
This cope only started when TOTK was released and didn't fit in with the timeline that Nintendo themselves made. BOTW fit in with the timeline. Nobody cares what order the Mario games are in. TOTK's writing is retarded even by Zelda standards.
>This cope only started when TOTK was released and didn't fit in with the timeline that Nintendo themselves made.
Wrong. BotW and TotK are a soft reboot, they happen tens of thousands of years after the previous games. The old games are the distant past to even the founding of BotW’s Hyrule.
BOTW was a soft reboot that was set long after the previous games, but TOTK's writing is so retarded that it managed to mess that up, especially since they wanted to reuse BOTW's world and characters at the same time that they were doing a poorly-written time travel plot.
The devs have already admited that Rauru's kingdom is not the original Hyrule and was rebuilt on the ruins of the older one. TotK still fits in the same timeline as all the other games, it's just that its internal plot is retarded.
See:
>Nintendo just want to make fun and engaging games.
But they've failed with Zelda and Mario this year
Nah, they're still pretty damn fun. If only they were more than just the fun parts, though.
This is a very stupid mindset to posses when you have movies and theme parks planned down the line, though.
Good luck competing with the big-name fantasy IPs like Harry Potter, Lord of The Rings, Game of Thrones, etc.
There is no god. Take the bandaid off you retard.
I know this is a troll post but this whole thing kind of intrigues me.
I genuinely think the japs do not understand what it is that upsets westerners about shit like this. They look at characters like link, zelda, ganon and see them essentially as action figures, sure you can create some insignificant continuity but that doesnt matter because the character is just ultimately a familiar face to play with.
Meanwhile westerners see things, like nintendo bringing back ganondorf for this game and they think, omg whats different about this character now! they wouldnt just bring back ganondorf for no reason! what direction is he going to go in this time? How has he grown since the last time we have seen him?
Their outlook is very different, yes. Unless the goal was to tell a big compelling story in the first place, they generally don't do much beyond comfortably safe tropes and expected behaviors, and even a strange shakeup will be shrugged off nonchalantly, I.E. Yoshi's New Island's "Suddenly, warping through space and time, King Bowser appears!" message box to quickly and immediately elaborate on why Adult Bowser suddenly shows up to hijack the game as the final boss.
>I genuinely think the japs do not understand what it is that upsets westerners about shit like this.
Japanese consumers understand and like continuity. This is Nintendo being run by lazy retards who have all their decisions backed up by 500 yes men because Japanese corporate culture is fucked and you're expected to enthusiastically go along with whatever's being done regardless of whether it's reasonable.
Very applicable here in the West, too, according to Tim Cain:
Certainly, although the issue in the west is less that retards get to keep being in charge, and more that even if you keep swapping out fuckups, the the industry is so fake and gay that the person you replaced them with is likely to be just as bad (look at how frequently Xbox leadership gets shaken up and how little it matters)
Yeah, the industry (as big as it is) certainly draws certain types of people to these positions. It's possible that it used to be that the gaming industry attracted those interested in technology and design, but now that space is being flooded by MBA types and clout chasers who don't respect those that came before
Seems like the same thing. That they keep putting retards in charge.
I guess the annoying thing is, nobody defends the laziness and retardation of microsoft or sony the way they do Nintendo. I mean shit, you have people in this thread defending the "Idk the shiekah shit just vanished I guess" explanation even though it's contradicted by tears of the kingdom itself. You can still find guardian corpses in some places, and Purah's tech is frankensteined together from Shiekah stuff. Meaning that Fujibayashi was asked the question and just gave a retarded answer without even thinking about the game, instead of just either admitting that he didn't care or just keeping a mystery. In fact, the attempt to paint newer zelda titles as being less story focused isn't even true. BoTW and especially Skyward Sword and TotK are completely full of story and hours of cutscenes, Fujibayashi is just a bad writer, storyteller, and world builder, because he's not creative and doesn't even try in terms of continuity.
It gets forgiven because Nintendo makes actual games, they have to without the third party support. When there is a misstep, a tendie can just pivot to something else while a snoy has nowhere to turn. Criticize something in SM2 and what are they going to fall back on? FF16, the only other game released this year?
You actually do see people defend Sony more than Microsoft with shit like this because Sony makes games, sometimes.
That's ultimately the crux of the matter. They need to get off their ass instead of getting complacent and lazy
Okay, now explain why Zelda doesn't know who Ganondorf is in TotK, when she fought Calamity Ganon in BotW.
A fun and engaging game would have basic continuity with the game that came right before it.
such a lack of care is why it is not game of the year
I'm still not playing Assassins Creed: Tendie Edition
TotK rapes your favorite game lmao
not an argument
I'm still not playing Assassins Creed: Tendie Edition
I dunno man, Elden Ring is a goty and totk isn't.
I dunno man BotW is considered the greatest game ever and Elden Ring isn't.
trannies love botw, that's true, but we're talking about totk
But both BotW and TotK rape your favorite game.
Your favorite game is dogshit compared to Nintendo's masterpieces. No wonder you're so upset.
why are nintendo-loving transgenders so obsessed with rape? very curious
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of your favorite game being mercilessly raped by Nintendo's masterpiece.
My favorite game is OoT, universally praised and accepted as the best game of all time.
>TotK rapes your favorite game lmao
Lol. Le Mao, even.
well at least you didn't use
>mogged
You making that claim is ironic because BOTW/TOTK Link is the only Link that gets raped.
TotK will forever be eternally mogged by OOT
>TotK will forever be eternally mogged by OOT
Playing TotK
>"hey, I wonder what's over there?"
>find a cave leading deep underground
>branching pathways
>boss fights
>unique treasures
>entrance to a multi-floored, multiroomed mini dungeon
Playing OoT
>"hey, I wonder what's over there?"
>"oh... I can't go over there...
OoT was amazing in 1998. But I was pretending it was TotK.
>Playing TotK
>"hey, I wonder what's over there?"
>oh, it's just another variation of the same 3 korok puzzles
>Playing OoT
>"hey, I wonder what's over there?"
>"oh... I can't go over there..."
>get a new item
>continue playing
>randomly have eureka moment and suddenly realize I can now reach the place I previously did not know how to reach
FTFY
Let's not pretend that the caves in Tears of the Kingdom are any deeper than Ocarina of Time. They always in with Bubbulfrogs, and it's usually "Oh look a cave. Here's a rock wall with convenient zweihander and a big rock you can fuse! Oh, look out, here's a Horriblin or a Like-Like!"
Please. It's maybe a step above Ocarina of Time, and that game is over 25 years old
(Me)
end*, not in
Fucking idiot hacks.
It's true, it doesn't need it. It can sometimes make it better and sometimes make it worse.
Why do they even acknowledge the retards who believe LoZ games connect beyond easter eggs and muh triforce? TotK and BotW are wastes of potential
I don’t really care about the half-assed explanations given by the devs because the autistic fans keep bothering them about it.
You can see that a lot of the tech was repurposed into the towers and other stuff. All the other useless junk could’ve been easily scrapped/cleaned up in the years between the the events of BotW and TotK.
During BotW the world is still under the influence of Calamity Ganon and it’s full of monsters.
Hell, look at IRL examples of warzones like Ukraine, towns that were liberated were cleaned up in a couple of months. The people of Hyrule had years of peace between the evens of the games to clean up and rebuild.
See, if they gave that as a reason, I would be fine with that. But it's basically "Sheikah tech went back to their home planet," and that's kind stupid.
Why are you acting like gamefreak fanboys defending sword and shield?
The knights of Miyamoto have sworn on their $500 collection of amiibos(not funky pops BTW, completely different) to strike down dissent against their master wherever it appears.
I’m not defending anything, when I played the game I just assumed the people of Hyrule cleaned up the junk and repurposed what still worked.
They fucking did it a couple of months in Ukraine, why wouldn’t it be reasonable to assume that the same would be done in a fantasy world?
Pic related, it’s a street in the town of Bucha, Ukraine cleaned it up after it was liberated. If it’s easy to do IRL, why wouldn’t it be in a magical fantasy world?
They ARE the consumers of Sword and Shield. This is what the floodgates let in when BoTW came out.
>Video games do not need a story.
True, but if they attempt to have one it is fair to judge them on it.
Remember when BotW threads were constantly hitting bump limit for 6 years straight? Less than one year past and nobody gives a fuck about Totk.
its just a sequel
It's not even that. It's more like a soft reboot.
And? People still talk about majora's mask despite it being a over 20 years old and reuses much of the assets from OoT
>nobody gives a fuck about Totk.
You seem to be seething every day.
...so did the technology just get up and leave, or was it repurposed? I don't get it.
How come it's never referenced? It's like an MiB memory wipe. Also the Purah Pad, which is just the Sheikah Slate. Robbie's compendium robot, whatever its name was.
I'm not mad, just shocked at the laziness. Not just in regards to the story/worldbuilding either, the combat and puzzles suck ass and the performance issues were carried over despite the Switch being capable. Nintendo's in-house devs are bordering on Gamefreak levels of incompetence and sloth.
Um, didn't you read the sentence sweaty??? The technology knew it had dun a good job and sparkled out of existence back to the spirit realm (except for the stuff thats still there, ignore that). It's not that hard to understand!!!
It is fucking mentioned. By Purah.
And the rest is implied like by the chasms and debris and monster nests replacing many of the fucking things.
I do not comprehend why so many of you don't bother actually talking to NPCs or paying attention to the world and quest designs and then think you get whine about the things they don't didn't say that they did.
You do not care. You would know what happened if you did. Why did he say it wasn't explained? I have no idea but it fucking was.
>It is fucking mentioned
Sorry nigga, but I have like 100 hours in the game and talking to Purah is the first and last thing you do. Sorry I don't remember an offhand comment she said at the very beginning. What'd she say, anyway?
>And the rest is implied like by the chasms and debris and monster nests replacing many of the fucking things
The Guardians fell into the chasms? Hwat?
IIRC he doesn't go into why it's gone, though. That actually would've made for a fun questline; scavenging old guardian tech for display in a museum. Game really should've had a Xenoblade-type world going on, and not because it was co-developed by Monolith Soft.
Half the NPCs recognized link, the others don't even acknowledge BotW even happening.
Symin's whole subplot is "It's hard to educate kids about the Calamity because all the Guardian/Beasts tech is gone".
>It's like an MiB memory wipe
there is also the fact that nobody fucking remembers link outside of the 4 champs, purah & robby, and hudson. even the villagers of hateno, where zelda teaches the school and link is said to always be by her side IN HER DIARY, acts like they have never seen him before. even that stupid asshole in kakariko who keeps you from finding the slab that says "mineru exists" has no idea who you are despite obviously having met the princess many times before the game began.
That was the shit that pissed me off the most. I can get over the guardians disappearing, but everyone knowing who Zelda was and never having heard of the person who pulled her out of the demon infested castle after a century is so frustrating. Like is she that much of a narcissist that she accepts all the praise for getting rid of Ganon and never mentions you saving her to anyone?
>there is also the fact that nobody fucking remembers link outside of the 4 champs, purah & robby, and hudson. even the villagers of hateno
You are so full of shit. Almost everybody in the game knows who Link is. They will either greet him by name or will talk about the fabled knight's triumph over calamity ganon, unaware you are actually him.
At least play the game before talking utter shit.
You haven't spent much time in any of the towns outside of the starting area and it shows.
This
and those who do know of Link don't know it's even him they"re talking to half of the time
>Walk up to any monster squad
>"Hey LINK! Is that you LINK? The actual LINK? Fancy meeting you here LINK! Want to join us LINK? We're sure to win with you by our side LINK!"
You didn't play the game lying shitter.
Oh you mean the monster squad from Lookout Landingn the one that's within spitting distance?
>walk into hateno village
>literally no one except Symin knows who you are
>Kilton doesn't recognize you
>only Hudson and his wife recognize you despite being the reason his town exists
>Granson acts like he doesn't know you
>you mean the monster squad from Lookout Landingn the one that's within spitting distance
The hylians? The ones you meet all-over the world? And recognize you as Link?
>walk into the school in Hateno
>Oh hi LINK!
>hey class, we have a very special visitor today. LINK.
So easy to laugh at you.
>walk o. Class
Yes, that's Symin you fucking window licker, like I said he's the only one in the while village that remembers you
>Almost everybody in the game knows who Link is
You didn't play the game, or you only played up to Lookout Landing.
Nope, they only know Link as Zelda's Knight at best, not the hero who saved Hyrule from The Calamity.
jesus christ, what a cluster fuck.
so this is what gets raving reviews these days??
They outsourced the story. Of course he's not aware that it's explained and implied in the game.
Either that or it was just a polite way of telling them to fuck off and play the game so they can find out if they actually care because he rightly can't be bothered explaining it to people who don't.
He could have just said shit like "Purah's crew swept up the lands of Guardian remains and used them in constructing the Sheikah towers" and that'd make much more sense.
Fujibayashi will kill every lore autist and timelinefag
the game was dogshit anyway, who cares about some missing assets
There are traces of Sheikah technology in TotK world. One for all, just look with attention at the laboratory.
>direct sequel to game
>literally reuses the same map
>can’t even be bothered to include an in game explanation for why a major aspect of the last game isn’t there anymore
If any other company pulled this you guys would rightfully mock them but off course tendies are required to worship the ground Nintendo pisses on
TotK is better your favorite game. Must make you fizz knowing that.
You are either around 12-14 yo and you didn't develop much of a communication skills and you don't really understand your emotions or you are mentally insane. I can't imagine a grown person with healthy mind doing something like this.
Contine to seethe in TotK threads. lmao
Seems to be what you're doing here my dude
Oh no you misunderstand. I am no seething in the slightest. You see, TotK is one of my favorite games.
The fact that TotK is one of the most acclaimed and successful games of all time, and considered a bona-fide masterpiece by the entire industry, makes me feel really happy. Because know it makes the schizo troons on Ganker foam at the mouth with rage.
>schizo troons
wasn't totk about sassy trans-nagger goats designed by furries being ancestors of hyrule and shit?
MOON RABBITS.
I was always fascinated by people like you. Our minds work so differently. Your mind just physically can't comprehend what I'm trying to tell you. It's almost like we are different species.
>Shiekah tech and the divine beasts were destroyed by Ganon's upheaval at the start of TOTK
literally solved the question in one line
There is a Guardian at the top of the laboratory in Hateno Village, look for it.
They should have use AoC’s as resource for their inspiration.
>The divine beasts can be teleported.
>Have that one episode of Star Trek, where the Teleport doesn’t finished, and make the person be trap in their for centuries.
>All Ancient weapons are stored in the Sheika Slate. Purah just forgot to store her Guardian on on top of her house.
Good races
>Sheikah
Invented apparently sapient technology that can alter the dynamics of physics casually without even using magic, invented multiple forms of magic, can teleport, can be active while kidnapped by the most evil guy in the setting when not even actually being a real sheikah and therefore inferior, tortured people for fun and profit, you barely see any Sheikah yet they have amongs the biggest impact
>Gerudo
1 shot Link in multiple games, fighting them fair is often not even a viable option at all, average hight of 10 foot, would be the most consistently effective race if Ganondorf wasn't such a massive jobber
>Gorons
Eat rocks, outspeed horses, outpower people with magically enchanted strength, some of them are like 50 foot tall for some reason and could probably solo every game in the series casually
>Oocca
Created sentient items before the Gerudo did and more impressive cities despite not even having hands
Shit races
>Fish
Couldn't even commit to being fish when the world was flooded and they'd be at their most relevant, king can barely move, princess got ate by her own fucking pet and nearly died
>Kokiri
Squat by a tree for so long they turned into pickles, Rick
Worst race
>Hylian
Get their ass kicked by literally 1 guy all the time, entirely reliant on a twink for survival, led by a holder of the tri-force specifically of wisdom yet they have the lowest tech of any race that tries and constantly get outwitted
What's wrong with H*lians?
>What's wrong with H*lians?
Blame her.
?t=1277
She cute however
>Why do they follow ganondork to war?
When did they do this? Hylia thought itself then the world got drowned. All other races generally keep to themselves.
>Why does hyrule not genocide these women
How? Gerudo are usually among the strongest enemies you can fight if you can to the point of sometimes straight up killing Link in a single hit and being immune to most of his arsenal, Hylian's are jobbers who can't win a single fight on their own and Gerudo's are horse archers who are also physically nearly twice the size of the average hylian if they get off the horse while Hylian's have like literally 1 ranch in their entire country with 1 horse
>Why do they follow ganondork to war?
Posted it here-
>After war is over
>"Teehee we did really want to fight anyways. We're just silly little desert girls!"
They are complicit is war, regicide, and birth a literal demon king EVERY HUNDRED YEARS. They all deserve death.
Don't care. Her race is cursed. To the gallows with em all.
>They all deserve death
or you could just ask them to kill the 1 male they have every 100 years since he is the problem and not the women who gladly live in a sand-filled wasted land for years on end.
Remember guys, the Karma of Demise can easily be reborn into a Hylian… or even a Minish.
You’re conflating oot and botw gerudo which are two different sizes and different cultures
Sexy
Don’t forget the Mogma.
>would be the most consistently effective race if Ganondorf wasn't such a massive jobber
Tbf the person who beats Ganondorf is usually Link with help from Sage & Zelda so it's not like he doesn't put up a fight. Besides, every time Ganon or Ganondorf shows up either the kingdom falls or the end of the world happens with anyone who isn't Link trying to deal with him ending up either dead or dies giving their own life to stop him till one day Link (the chosen one) beats him.
>Why do they follow ganondork to war?
He's usually their king so of course his people would follow him into battle.
>Why does hyrule not genocide these women afterwards for waging war on them?
Usually, after Ganondorf falls the Gerudo themselves are perfectly fine with living in a wasteland and most of the time have someone who is friendly to Hyrule leading them. So, there's no need to kill them all over one demon king.
>it's not like he doesn't put up a fight.
He sits on his ass for the entire game or does one thing then sits on his ass or spawns in on top of the guy who was actually doing well v link then dies within 5 minutes even to a child
He's the constantly reincarnated butthurt of a guy who was as close to divinity as you can get since the goddesses left and dump 0.000000000000.0001% of their power as tri-forces as a joke yet couldn't beat a single twink, literally sapient seethe, the most pathetic recurring villain in fiction, even more so than Dracula in CV getting killed within a day of reviving multiple times
In the end the real reason it's gone is because Nintendo didn't want to alienate new players who didn't play BOTW, same reason why link is fairly unknown, they didn't want to have to dump exposition
it's silly but Nintendo doesn't really seem to care about "lore", each game is treated as it own thing with minimal overlap story wise
still I'm waiting for the Japanese fan base to put out inter game fan stuff
Imo this attitude is what's keeping Nintendo from reaching its previous heights. They no longer have confidence in their IPs
>confidence
I think it's the opposite; they have so much confidence that they don't give a shit because the Switch was a success. No confidene is when they spend most of their console's lifespan doing nothing but porting over previous gen games because they have nothing else going on or they don't think Star Fox Zero is gonna sell consoles at that point.
Good races
>Sheikah
I want to fuck their women
>Gerudo
I want to fuck their woman
>Fish
I want to fuck their women
>Hylian
I want to fuck their women
Shit races
>everything else
I do not want to fuck their women or they have no women
here bro heres ur validation for being a worthless coomer bro theyre you go feel good bro ur so cool thaxnks for telling us you have no thoughts beyond coomer you absolute lose r
I now want to talk about these whores. Why do they follow ganondork to war? Why does hyrule not genocide these women afterwards for waging war on them? Is this ever talked about???
In OoT their leader did try to stop him but she got brainwashed. There isn't really an explanation in the new games though other than they don't have recorded history of him being evil.
Wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXHR3FfG1Rg
They are traitors to the kingdom of Hyrule and deserve to be executed.
>They are traitors to the kingdom of Hyrule and deserve to be executed.
>Posts the current leader of the Gerudo who is nothing but loyal to Zelda and her kingdom just like her ancestor & former Gerudo Champion was.
Nah there fine, the problem is literally just 1 endlessly reincarnating dark king who isn't even leading them anymore even in Totk since Riju is still chief and Ganondorf never takes his throne back in Gerudo town.
>He sits on his ass for the entire game or does one thing then sits on his ass or spawns in on top of the guy who was actually doing well v link then dies within 5 minutes even to a child
He has an army every game to do his work for him, So of course he's going to mostly be on his ass the whole game. Nah the guy "doing actually well against Link" is also getting his shit pushed in just as hard if not harder since 9 times out of 10 there just using some of Ganondorf's power anyway.
>yet couldn't beat a single twink
That Twink is also a reincarnation hero with a Goddess' reincarnating backing him up with his evil slaying sword, 1 part of said Tri-Force you mention & powerful sages by his side in most games. So no this is not just a "simply twink" this is a warrior legit chosen as the savior of the kingdom.
>literally sapient seethe
This is just me but I actually like that kind of simple villain motivation for simple stories like CV and Zelda. I don't need deep and thought-provoking ideas or something coming from people who legit call themselves "The dark lord", "True King of Evil" or other shit like that.
>All these excuses for a guy who literally can't win 1 fight except v old half dead non-fighters
>excuses
These are the reasons the game gives for Link winning though.
>except v old half dead non-fighters
He got jumped in Totk and bodied every Sage in the room to the point the king of Hyrule had to give his life to even steal Ganondorf away. Though I can't really say the same for his OoT to TP or WW versions since they don't fight on screen much with it mostly being him killing Sages.
out of ten.
>Why do they follow ganondork to war
It was a tradition. We still don’t know why they can’t have any male children 99.999% of the time.
>Why does hyrule not genocide these women afterwards for waging war on them?
As far as I can tell, it’s only one guy.
That timeline is much better than what Nintendo provided. Four Swords Adventures so much more sense here.
>It was a tradition. We still don’t know why they can’t have any male children 99.999% of the time.
My take used to be that they simply can't have male children full stop and the few times they do are literal miracles conjured by demise's residual hatred. That's why every ganondorf introduced to the player just happens to be an evil megalomaniac whose ambitions happen to involve destroying Hyrule at least as a side effect.
And yes, I know that this take was shattered in breath of the wild with that crossdressing male gerudo.
Play the fucking game, you secondary.
But you posted a picture of someone who openly opposes ganondorf
I don't even know if she knew who Ganondorf was, he was effectively erased from history. Hell, Gerudos still don't know a whole much about their ancestry other than craving for Hyrule cock.
Haha look at me Link
I’m a Dragon!
I’m Dragon Zelda!
videogames should be self contained stories
How did Ganondorf see Ruafo's secret stone from 100 yards away, but the latter and his retinue couldn't see Ganondorf?
Why did the Zonai even invent Rewind, but not Fast-Forward? How did Zelda get the Master Sword to stick in her forehead? I don't know what's happening.
>Gerudos must have biology where their eyes are like an Raptor, like a “Elven eyes” as it were.
>Why did the Zonai even invent Rewind, but not Fast-Forward?
Because they can’t force a object to travel into a past?
>How did Zelda get the Master Sword to stick in her forehead?
Dragon magic.
what causes trannies so personally attached to Nintendo anyway? they surely understand none of the big wig nips care about them in the slightest?
https://instinctmagazine.com/survey-are-gaymers-more-into-playstation-or-xbox/
>which consoles were LGBTQ gamers’ choice?
>PlayStation led the pack with a 38% support from LGBTQ gamers.
>Meanwhile, XBOX had 22 percent of respondents’ support
>Nintendo only garnered 19 percent.
Yikes!
lgbt includes homosexuals, but trannies specifically tend to latch onto nintendo for some reason
maybe it's because Nintendo is childish and feels like safe space to those freaks
you're trying to dissect the psychology of that which does not make sense in any regard. trannies are as trannies do. there's no point in discussing them
agreed
all degenerate consolecultist trannies should be executed for the good of this board
PC has a higher percentage than Nintendo according to that article.
I find it hillarious how much zelda lads hate story and couldnt give two shits about it, yet fans keep bending over backwards trying to fit in games into a timeline where everything is connected and makes sense
>Running at literally 5 people stood on a rock
>War
lol okay anon okay
brb fighting my neighbor and his gay bf, hit'll be the biggest war since 911's plane v random dudes
Why are you people surprised when the mission statement of BotW and TotK is literally breaking away from franchise conventions and not being shackled to the past?
Not just gameplay but timeline tomfoolery.
Where is the "unconventional" storytelling when the main storyline of ToTK is pretty much the same as BotW? Same four places with slightly better dungeons. And when I call them dungeons I'm being pretty generous because they feel shorter than the Deku tree in OoT.
>The writing is bad on purpose, it was intentional, like poetry
Also that "mission statement" only exists (or doesn't, because I have no idea what the fuck you're referencing) so they can recycle old ideas without being accused of recycling. The Master Sword is Fi, but it's not really Fi, get it? So the game doesn't take place before or after Skyward Sword, but there are Sky Islands, but not like Skyward Sword. Stop asking questions.
Doesn't really make sense why they would bother establishing this anyway. We get it, it's a franchise. When a new creator ten or twenty years later wants to make a new Transformers cartoon, he doesn't have to explain why the fuck Optimus Prime is there in relation to the source material, but it still needs to be established within this new iteration's own logic. Which is where TotK fails. It reuses 98% of its world from prior entries, refuses to explain their logic within this new universe, then establishes the OC 2% and then actively refuses to make that shit make any sense as well.
It's just shitty, lazy writing. Oh and the combat sucks, and the music, and the puzzles, and the performance, and the English dub, and the dialogue in general. But don't worry about any of that.
Bad writing
Damn, TotK haters can't really think up any convincing arguments against the game at all huh?
I love Zelda, but that's some bullshit.
Wouldnt it have made more sense to just say Purah and Zelda deconstructed it all to use in further research? The new tablet and towers are basically sheikah tech anyways
>Wouldnt it have made more sense to just say Purah and Zelda deconstructed it all to use in further research? The new tablet and towers are basically sheikah tech anyways
But they did, the towers use Guardian arms and the new settlement is also powered by their tech.
>Zelda boss
Does he have a giant glowing eye
Deep lore is gay
This is the mindset of Nintendo Inc.
They just want to sell you the news products and just consume it, without considering the art.
>No DLC
>Nintendo goes against their lore, and then in interviews give lame ass excuses.
>Open World was interesting, in Breath of the Wild, but in Tears of the Kingdom show oh much the story suffered.
>YouTube contend creators notice their algorithms, and now have to change up their formate, because Zelda’s is no longer interesting to Normies.
The honeymoon stage was very short, as players now see the problems in the game now.
Might as well have TotK as BotW DLC.
We should burn people alive more
It makes so much more sense that they dismantled them
It makes sense, so what's the problem? Not cinematic enough with gays and trannies for you?
Nintendo autists love arguing about the Zelda timeline
There are people who say that the story has been neglected because of other aspects, but I honestly think that the whole game has been neglected as well as the story.
The dugeons are a good example. Only two of them really have the feel of a dungeon and even those are quite simplistic with nothing interesting or memorable to do. The game has the necessary tools for good puzzles, but Nintendo decided not to waste time on that.
I can't remember, in my 150 hours with the game, any moment when I actually had to do something interesting with the game's mechanics, except for a single part where I decided to build a catapult to try and launch a Korok (something totally unnecessary, by the way). The mechanics have enormous potential, but the game design has managed the feat of making using them, 99% of the time, feel like a fucking chore rather than something that gives the player any satisfaction.
Sucks to be you.
The Rito quest alone BTFO of every other Zelda game. From Outlook Landing to the Hebra Mountains, the skies above, into the storm and then dungeon and boss battle - it was about a dozen hours of the finest adventuring I've ever experienced in a video game.
Quests like the Stable Totters conjured up so many wholesome memories. The boy lighting the fairy tree for the little girl was so heart-warming and trumps anything from any other Zelda game.
The Great Skyland is one of the best "dungeons" the Zelda series has ever made.
Skydiving from the heavens and then into a snowboard blast down a mountain - all in open organic gameplay - just blows every adventure game away.
The sense of discovery and wonderment is relentless. I remember exploring a cave north east of Death Mountain. I needed to build a rocket-propelled mine cart to enter. Next thingbI know I'm hurtling through this lava cavern rollercoaster, fighting enemies in their own rocket-propelled minecarts, shooting switches and jumping over tracks.
What game this level of variety, discovery and wanderlust? Nothing.
Good for you to be happy with so little, I guess.
Still, the lost potential is unbelievable. A good puzzle game with TOTK mechanics would be infinitely better than the braindead experience that is TOTK, from combat to exploration, from the story to the puzzles, there is absolutely nothing there that is even remotely interesting to those with standards, but I don't know, maybe the mass of players are like you and really do see value where there is almost nothing, although I have an impression that this is not the case. Looking at the critiques and comments from various consumers, I notice that this time Nintendo has gone too far in disrespecting players' time and intelligence.
You can't a game with more unique content than TotK.
You can't name a more technical impressive game on any system at the moment.
You can't name a better adventure game than TotK on any system.
Simple facts. You can always console yourself by playing vastly inferior game to TotK I guess.
>You can't a game with more unique content than TotK.
Elden Ring
>You can't name a more technical impressive game on any system at the moment.
Teardown
>You can't name a better adventure game than TotK on any system.
Zelda BOTW
Wow, that was easy. I didn't even have to think about it.
>Elden Ring
TotK has more gameplay variety in its tutorial island than Elden Ring has in its entirety
>Teardown
LMFAOO
>BotW
TotK makes BotW look like a rough first draft.
We get it, you're SEETHING. Please keep seething in TotK threads.
Immersive Sims and MGSV do all that.
Already did that in BotW.
It was good in botw, it is even better in totk.
>it was done well in one game, therefore you should completely ditch it
cuck logic.
They could have just said that Zelda had them decommissioned after BOTW.
In real life, the Big Rock Point nuclear power station was decommissioned a while ago and the only trace of it is a plaque and the dry casks that are waiting to be moved somewhere permanent.
No, that's sloppy as fuck. The new Zelda directors are just shit at their job
games absolutely don't need a story, but they can be enhancers or detractors like any other choice you make. botw surprised by having a decent story and cute npc characters. part of the allure in staying in this hyrule is continuity with the first game which basically does not exist other than the barest minimum in totk. it's offensive the wishy washyness the game wants to pretend botw did or did not happen.
totk is the worst sequel ever from a continuity perspective.
I felt more emotional connection to BotW/TotK version of Link and Zelda than any other iteration of the series.
These games are so iconic in the series, that 30 years now, Nintendo would only need to post a single image of either to conjure up an avalanche of nostalgia from fans reminiscing about the games.
Tell I'm wrong.
Ok but I hated everyone in botw and totk and felt zero attachment to them as they are all cringey anime characters. The characters in OOT are still the only Zelda characters I have any attachment to.
you're not wrong! the duology has the best ever versions of both characters. but i would claim zeldas arc is in botw, not totk. botw dies the hard work of endearing you to her. in totk she is just an observer of events before she has to make the Forever Changed Sacrifice whose rules don't matter in the end. pathetic cowardice from the developer.
You gonna address anything he actually said, or...?
The whole weapon system is funnier to me when it comes to bad writing. Like in BOTW, they have the excuse of there being a century of decay that led to all the weapons being pieces of shit that break easily. But now that things have recovered and Hyrule is making new weapons, suddenly they needed a new excuse for why weapons are so fragile and they settled on the stupid Ganon goop spreading across everything and targeting weapons specifically for some reason. It's just so stupid and arbitrary that it's hilarious.
Is anything happening on November 21st?
No.
Game Awards is more likely, if the rumors are anything to go by.
Why do these homosexual leakers hype everything up for months instead of just saying "this is the thing" and moving on? That Jeff Grub homosexual was saying "ohhhh something zelda is happening later this year" for months. Why not just literally say exactly what it is?
Because that would get them in legal trouble, silly.
And yes, it's looking pretty likely that it's happening, and it's very likely going to be some full-on remake of OoT. Nintendo trademarked it (again) back in 2020. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the ACTUAL game that Nintendo was putting their development focus on, explaining why ToTK came off as some half-baked side dish DLC.
I really don't want Aonuma and Fujibayashi doing anything with Ocarina of Time.
>Because that would get them in legal trouble, silly.
But israeli Jason leaks shit all the time and doesnt get in any legal trouble
OOT is a tiny game in comparison to botw and totk though. The map is minuscule compared to modern games. It wouldnt require a big development focus.
That's why it's going to be a reimagining ala FF7R and use a Hyrule that can feel utterly gargantuan to Young Link, a boy who's lived a sheltered life in the forest and never truly knew the world.
The dungeons require a LOT more attention from a design, modeling, and texturing standpoint than most of BotW's overworld did. Or they will if they do them justice.
>It wouldnt require a big development focus
It's not a bunch of copy pasted/deformation terrain like open world games though.
Oot remake seems unlikely to me honestly
Nintendo doesn’t do ff7 style remakes because they’d rather make new games and leave remakes to games that need it like metroid 2
To make an oot remake they got to be extremely desperate for a switch 2 launch title
It's not just about releasing a Switch 2 console launch title, it's about turning the IP into a massive, multimedia franchise. As popular as BoTW and ToTK were, they can't really use them as the initial blueprint for kickstarting movies, shows, theme parks, etc. BoTW's plot is more of a deconstruction of iconic Zelda themes & tropes, while ToTK was.. kek, well just look at this thread for starters.
And Nintendo is in the midst of a remake/remaster phase. Hell, the entire gaming industry is. Seems dumb not to. But who knows, they're just rumors after all. They could be planning an HD port of OoT 3DS for all we know.
This series really did peak with Twilight Princess...
>”based Nintendo putting gameplay before story”
>still proceeds to defend the barebones story as being smart and well thought out
We're all in the other thread.
>still can't think of a single convincing criticism of the game
gameplay > story
fun > internal consistency
that's why Nintendo is the best
Almost everything people love about Zelda is connected to Koizumi. The franchise should have gone to him.
He also wrote the lore in the manual for Link to the past
Makes sense why the only Zelda games I really like are LTTP, LA, OOT and MM
why does Miyamoto seethe so much about adding stories to his games?
If Pikmin's any indication, he prefers his story to come in the form of unspoken background elements rather than being directly spelled out by the game or its characters.
>If Pikmin's any indication, he prefers his story to come in the form of unspoken background elements rather than being directly spelled out by the game or its characters.
That's literally something Koizumi has said he goes for in games. Miyamoto doesn't like any story whatsoever.
I'm aware, I'm looking specifically towards one of Miyamoto's precious babies that isn't Mario, who's very much defined by Miyamoto's autistic "no story allowed" criteria. But evidently it's OK when Pikmin does it.
After years of reading about that man's antic's, I've come to the conclusion that the guy just has a massive ego problem and throws a shitfit whenever someone does something better than him. Be it gameplay mechanics, design choices, reboots, story & worldbuilding, etc.
Basically if you aren't a yes-man for the guy, you're project and original vision's getting fucked by him regardless.
There's tons of evidence from interviews that Koizumi and Miyamoto did not get along very well and had frequent arguments regarding the direction of the Zelda franchise, so it's not a shock that he was shafted to Mario.
Makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider that Miyamoto's moved onto entrepreneuring the Mario brand's multimedia aspects.
And now due to the roaring success of the Mario Movie, we're already starting to see the budding beginnings of its influence courtesy of Miyamoto's handling of the whole affair reach into the core of Mario through its games with little things like Princess Peach: Showtime! having its boxart altered to give her a face and expression that more closely resembles her movie counterpart.
Mark my words, people might think we're experiencing a golden era of SOUL with things like Wonder and the RPG Remakes, but this is only the calm before the storm.
Miyamoto's still in control, just a lot more indirectly by merit of being in charge of media that can more broadly affect Mario's public perception. Within a decade, we WILL see the full effect of the Mario Movie's success on not just Mario, but possibly other Nintendo franchises too.
fuck you're right
You used Peach as an example for your argument, but I would argue that Donkey Kong's redesign in the movie is an even greater example of Miyamoto's arrogance going into overdrive.
Miyamoto despised everything that Rare did to Donkey Kong with the Country games. So it's no surprise that his ugly new redesign has more ties to his debut arcade look than the classic rare titles that made the franchise big in the first place.
Oh yeah, I'm talking about what immediately affects the games right now. You raise a huge point about DK all the same, and I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason we haven't gotten a new DK game yet is because Miyamoto forced everyone to wait until Post-Movie so the general consumerbase can get acquainted with his "ideal vision" of the character.
I still cannot believe the Koholint twist shattered Miyamoto's asshole so badly that he handed Zelda to an abject fucking retard just so Koizumi couldn't have it.
Koizumi doesn't look like that anymore. He has a scary face now.
Tears bros... what is this... story is supposed to be BAD!!
Koizumi was great
I like how he always had an answer for what happened to characters in Ocarina of Time
I don't remember where the interview was but he claimed the kid with the spooky mask in the graveyard ended up going to the Lost Woods and becoming a skull kid
Navi was a mistake or a missed opportunity. Maybe if she had a bit more character and interactions with Link like Tatl did in OoT, she would be far more likable and potentially even waifu material.
Everything else he did was pretty great though.
Navi might have been added fairly late in development. Tatl was probably closer to what he wanted.
Navi was pretty much the game's excuse to integrate the lock-on mechanic organically by having a literal glowing point of interest for both Link and the player to track and focus their movements on.
It started out as just an icon, but Koizumi turned it into a character instead.
Koizumi is the goat
He added rosalina’s backstory to galaxy and directed mario odyssey too
If the game didn't need a story then why'd they put a story in the game?
The REAL reason, is that the writers didn't want to write characters acknowledging the old tech, because it's all old and stale. In fact, that's why the developers removed it all, in order to avoid the old stale blue glow aesthetic. Replaced withe the new green earthy aesthetic.
All that they needed to do was have Zelda write in her diary that she had the Sheikah technology decommissioned.
That raises more questions. How did they do it so fast? Where was it all disposed? How did the various cultures feel about their special weapons being taken away? Especially the Rito, who took a great deal of pride to have theirs perched atop their village.
>How did they do it so fast?
Six years passed between BOTW and TOTK. Maybe the ancient Sheikah left a decommissioning fund to be able to pay workers to work in shifts to decommission the technology.
>Where was it all disposed?
Buried underground? Dumped into the ocean? Fed to the Gorons like how Link can use Guardian parts in meals?
>How did the various cultures feel about their special weapons being taken away? Especially the Rito, who took a great deal of pride to have theirs perched atop their village.
Ancient technology being dangerous was common knowledge by BOTW. Also Link was Zelda's "big stick".
>Especially the Rito, who took a great deal of pride to have theirs perched atop their village.
The Rito were planning to take it down anyway after it started shooting them down.
Meanwhile they recycle the entire overworld, kek.
TotK was just Nintendo's attempt to see how far they can sucker their stupid fanbase into paying for lazily recycled, rehashed content.
but enough about spiderman 2
Nah, Spiderman 2 is the same deal. Both games are.
>sheikah tech just up and fucking vanishes all the time in breath of the wild and magically "knows" what to do, where to go, and who link is
>somehow all of it vanishing after breath of the wild confuses and enraged third-worlders on Ganker who think this is inconsistent with its previous behavior
Ganon was still fucking there, its purpose was not fulfilled.
The Sheikah are hacks, just like Fujibayashi.
Ganondorf was, not Calamity Ganon.
correction
they were built to deal with calamity ganon
nobody by that time, except the royal family who didn't even know the particulars only that there was some scary shit underneath the castle, knew ganondorf existed
You didn't play the game. You didn't even watch a playthrough on YouTube. The Sheikah monks explained that Hylia gave them a vision so that they knew to build and bury the technology and where to do so.
Ganon himself never appeared even once across BOTW, AOC, and TOTK.
>12 years have passed since the release of skyward sword
>the only antagonists used since then are phantom ganon and demise (calling himself ganondorf)
Haha...so cool...
Keep this thread up discordsisters, we're almost done with the other one
link the discord. I want to see what you guys are up to.
Might do it later if we have 3 successful anti-totk threads in a row
The other thread is done, we can stop replying to hours old post to keep this thread alive so we can focus on making new fake arguments
>Technology made specifically to fight Ganon, a monster who reappears every 500 years
>Well we beat him a couple times. Surely he wont come back ever again. Let's just disintegrate all our technology that could be useful in advancing Hylian civilization
This is why it's a bullshit answer, the tech literally should have sensed that The Calamity wasn't destroyed yet based on the fact monsters (who are spawned directly from Ganon) were still running around and the fact Hyrule Castle was SITTING ON GANONDORF'S BODY THIS ENTIRE FUCKING TIME.
You tried to refute it, but the way you word it makes a lot more sense than you want it to.
>they left behind large amounts of machines and mechs to help the hylians fend off the monster that reappears every few thousand years
>the (futuristic) shiekah are canonically time travelers (time portal in SS)
>being time travelers, they would know that the last great calamity was in [100 years before botw] and after that one, there were no (because link killed ganondorf and stopped him from shitting out new ganons constantly)
>"The hylians will only need the guardians and beasts in a specific time period spanning from [some time before the first calamity] and [a week after link beats calamity ganon in botw], we can zap them back into our time after that."
>(because link killed ganondorf and stopped him from shitting out new ganons constantly)
Except Ganondorf is now poised to reincarnate when the next Gerudo Male is born, beginning the cycle all over again.
Yes but that subsequent ganondorf won't be fuck-you-powerful like the one that had one of rauru's meme stones, so future link will be much better equipped to deal with him.
Yep, and this time around the new Ganondorf will utilize ANOTHER ancient lost civilization's ultra-powerful artifact that just so happens to be unveiled with his rise to power and claim to the Demon King title because the Wild Era is so assfuckingly far ahead into the future that they have infinite ancient lost civilizations to pull from.
Which Gerudo woman will give birth to the next Ganondorf? Rhondson? Risa? Barta? Buliara?
None of them, because even with 100 year cycles (which aonuma has since dropped in favor of botw/totk's 30k+ year cycles), the best chance of any relation with a character from totk would be if riju got to be future ganondorf's great great great grandmother.
It's long overdue for a Ganondorf to be born because this Ganondorf wasn't dead yet. He could very easily come back as the next Gerudo baby, especially if Nintendo decides to make a BOTW3.
By the time he'd be old enough to pull any demon king shenanigans, link would be in his late thirties or mid fourties.
riju my beloved will give birth to a healthy beautiful baby boy
I think a better answer is the Sheikah realized their technology could be hacked and posed a bigger danger to Hyrule than to Ganon so they destroyed it all
I didn't even think of that, that opens up an even less far-fetched explanation.
>After calamity ganon was destroyed, the hylians actively destroyed all the remaining shiekah defense systems, just to make sure they don't turn purple and murder people again.
Not really though, they specifically say that the tech is unearthed in botw, it didn’t randomly appear like it disappeared
+ there is still some tech, mainly the purah pad and the towers
It was unearthed because it was still there after the first calamity. There is no line in either game saying people witnessed their creation, they might as well have materialized out of nowhere, since the shiekah that supposedly created them are gone as well.
If they don't need a story why do they waste my time and their money of cut scenes and voice acting
>nooo the game is too similar to the last one its the exact same game how could other people enjoy it, please don't buy it
>nooo the game had too many changes from the previous game and there wasn't a 30 minute cutscene explaining each change, please don't buy it
The problem is TotK is borderline ashamed of itself to be a BotW sequel, so it does less than minimum to actually connect the two games beyond reusing the map, mechanics and characters while barely if ever acknowledging anything that happened in BotW. It's needlessly vague about if Link is actually the hero who ended The Calamity or not despite the fact most of the people who speak of the Calamity in TotK would damn well know that, especially people like Impa, Robbie and Purah who lived to see it begin over 100 years ago.
TOTK was supremely disappointing, and both Mario Wonder and Pikmin 4 completely BTFO it in terms of quality.
Why are Ganker babies constantly whining about muh difficulty and how everything is piss easy? Do you want a medal? Some achievement for having wasted 20+ years of your life for a useless talent which is being slightly better at video games? No one cares.
so previous Zelda games didnt have a story now? you zoomers are killing me
>I must go my planets needs me.webm
Imagine thinking that a fairy tale needs to be logical.
A fairy tale does need to be consistent with itself, though. You can't have a fairytale about a gnome living in a mushroom, and then have him driving a car to get around this huge forest unless you're going to call attention to the idea that gnomes have cars in a fantasy setting.
Why is Link always portrayed as a manlet?
Which player demographic is more likely to play the game just in overall numbers
>10-25 y/o manlet/thin guy/average guy
>30something bodybuilder who goes to the gym 6 days a week
It's literally explained this way in the Japanese version
>Everything teleported away to somewhere, including the stuff that was broken and had rotted in rain for 100+ years
>oh but not the one on Hateno's lab.
>or the ones they used to create the arms in the new towers
Discordsisters we need to stop replying to hours old posts, we're making it way too obvious
imagine spending all this time and effort to argue about the pettiest bullshit that the devs didn't spend 2 seconds thinking about on a mongolian basket weaving forum
I love how Nintendo fans keep jumping between
>duuude look at all this attention to detail
and
>heh they don't even care about the details
I love how you keep assuming everyone speaking positively about totk is 1 person and not the vast majority of the playerbase
It's the same shit with Pokemon fans. They look for anything to prop their unfinished game. Expanding from this post
You can tell this is the case because suddenly the lore and the timeline doesn't matter anymore, the game just being big and looking graphically decent is suddenly a huge feat, and there is little care about the dungeon designs being bland and basic. This was not a thing until BoTW came out, where we would before make fun of the new weird goofy designs and autistically discuss where or why these games fit in the timeline even if there were a few dissenters who didn't care. We still wanted a good story either way. The fanbase standards have lowered considerably now.
Somehow, Divine Beasts have disappeared
Someone do this, but replace with a screenshot from the game.
perfect, bless you for your photoshop skills anon
Excellent, anon.
Is this a Veil of the Force reference or something. Have never seen anything Nu-Star Wars.
This is a riff on "Rise of the Skywalker", in which Palpatine returns suddenly and abruptly, and this line by Poe Dameron, one of major characters of the Sequel Trilogy, is essentially all of that we got regarding how exactly Palpatine survived being thrown down into the ore of the Death Star in Return of the Jedi.
His exact line is something like
> Somehow, Palpatine returned.
BOTW > TOTK
It's true.
There's nothing wrong with BoTW's open-air formula. In fact, there's a ton of potential going for it. Nintendo just happened to squander it with ToTK when they fell into their toxic mindset of implementing pointless gimmicks over improving flaws from the previous game.
I strongly disagree. The biggest problem with BotW is the repetition and lack of progression. TotK at least alleviates some of those issues with the building and just more content in general and makes BotW feel more like a tech demo by comparison.
"more" isn't always "better", anon. I hope you can see that
Not always, but it is in the case of BotW which was virtually nothing but a korok seed collectathon, it's an improvement for sure.
What is the new content that's so much better? I genuinely can't think of anything it added that's more compelling than what was in botw.
See
>still seething about BotW
lmao
>B-but the journies...! They said --"
Zoomer detected.
I did not make any progress in making the game feel less repetitive and it has exactly as much progression as BotW.
>uuuuh, these games are so far in the future that Rauru refoubded Hyrule
>uuuuh the Divine Beasts vanished into thin air because their job was done
They should have just made Breath/Tears a new IP.
>the general consensus in Hyrule being that as their purpose had been realised, the tech knew it was its time to go.
So you're telling me that the tech's purpose wasn't fulfilled after Ganon got BTFO'd by it 10,000 years ago but rather after it got possessed and was used to obliterate the country. I guess its true purpose wasn't to stop Calamity Ganon but help him.
Seriously, they can't have spent more than 10 seconds thinking of this explaination (about the same amount of time they thought about whether recycling 95% of everything from the previous game was a good idea).
>a wizard did it
this is like when it turned out tlou2 was just kent brockman ranting about the palestines
Our thread is too slow, I'm going to call acfag before arthur goes away
Did you know they that they don't have a coherent story? They're just "legends" of Zelda.
>Decide to have a bit of toast before you go to bed
>During the night your brand new Sheikah toaster that you only bought last week suddenly "decides its purpose has been realised", disperses into particles and vanishes into thin air
You just know real life corpos would pull this too if the tech was there.
The tech is there, it's called planned obsolescence, there's a big stink about it
Miyamoto never said that video games don't need a story, he said and I quote, "video games lack substance when they are about the story instead of gameplay."
I will not elaborate.
they're not in the game becuase it was a sloppy cash grab and it was going to sell anyway
>"TotK was a sloppy cash grab"
>in reality the entire industry was BTFO
Don't hold your breathe for any other developer to make a game as good as TotK.
>someday our phones will disappear in our hands because their work of destroying society is complete
I don't like fujibayashi's writing style. It insists upon itself
pretty shitty explanation. its weird that its all gone when you think about it, but then you can just... stop thinking about it and just enjoy the game for what it is. if you cant do that, you're an autistic loser.