>western devs try to make an iconic female character
>constantly shilled to be a new gaming mascot
>completely forgotten with no fans
>Jap devs make a female protag with 0 personality
>also make her sexy
>becomes gaming icon with millions of fans worldwide
when will they learn?
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it's not about the money
This
Sales aren't the goal of these companies, listening to their stockholders asking for more woke shit is
Damn deadliest threat they must be pretty capable guys. You’d think society wouldn’t want to disenfranchise them but here we are.
Literally all lefties
Why does every extremist look like a deform goblin, it doesn't matter which side they pick.
Extremists have only ugly thoughts.
>Dahl
I love it. SJWs are now quoting nazi sympathizers.
Who said i was a SJW? Also, Dahl was a nazi sympathizer, why never got that memo?
>Who said i was a SJW?
I'm talking about the morons that made that image, not you.
>Also, Dahl was a nazi sympathizer, why never got that memo?
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>why do americans look like americans?
kek seeing a lot of seeting troons lately, did a troony kill himself lately?
Maybe he is just sneeding at beauty
>muh white terrorism
>when will they learn?
30 years ago, before millennials were the one making games and shoving down diversity everywhere
they are both shit
I'm glad the world still has someone with some common sense.
Modernity
In some games, it makes sense to play as a black female. Dishonored: DOTD you play as a based black woman who is from the ghetto and a criminal, its quite fitting if you ask me.
When it comes to Pathfinder: WotR I was insta-filtered because they shoved a black female paladin in my face. That is NOT fitting.
>in some games, it makes sense to play as a black female
just admit that you're racist
Anti-racism is racist.
But our 99% white gaming demographic just love blacks
>Waaah! Why are these stupid bigshots failing to understand the importance of a black woman on the cover of A VIDEOGAME"
McCormack is a fricking moron. I genuinely hate SJWs with a burning passion.
>Dishonored: DOTD
Why the frick would you use this garbage as an example, not only no one liked that b***h, but it's well known that the 2nd game flopped, and that DLC was god awful.
>you play as a based black woman who is from the ghetto and a criminal
Dishonored wasn't about Black folk from the ghetto, it was about being a legendary assassin.
sorry state
>with 0 personality
Not only that... they got one of the worst american VA's to voice her.
Jennifer Hale?
Sex sells. And I'm not talking character having sex. Sexy characters sell.
God knows people actively vomited to that TLoU2 sex scene.
Sex doesn't actually sell
Nobody would have given a frick about automata if 2B wasn't a bombshell.
More people would have bought Returnal if the MC wasn't an old hag. These are facts.
most people didn't buy automata because of 2b
That's a big fat fricking lie and you know it.
I guarantee you most sales came from 2B being hot.
Sure as frick wasn't from the copious amounts of reviews who checked out after the first ending with 2B.
Then why was papa Nier so popular?
Oh wait, you're an idiot.
He isn't? Yoko Taro Went on record saying Nier was basically a flop and it's a miracle that Squenix even let him make Automata.
Who?
There’s an entire industry that proves otherwise.
>Thread #1029228 of Ganker complaing that women in games are not reduced to "empowered" titty bimbos for basement dwellers to drool over anymore
Its all so tiresome
Instead they are the exact same Butch dyke with no personality. Or the exact same Black power 70's Afro having she boon voiced and face modeled by the same damn black woman.
Oh be quiet. You dont care about the characterization of women in games, you only care if they you and your fellow gamers a boner or not. Thats why you and your ilk are mad, because you guys dont want actual women, you want sex dolls.
>"her ass is a part of her personality, you stupid liberal!"
I care about personality in my characters more than their looks. It's not my fault the western devs all have the exact same 2 stereotypes for woman. Japanese devs make their characters sexy as an extra precaution to facilitate their personalities. To differentiate themselves from every other Japanese devs attractive characters.
One of the biggest reason I don't like Gay or Trans characters in games is because they are Gay/trans first, second, third, forth, and a person with a personality 10th.
Good writing goes a long way. and a good looking character tends to blur the inadequacies of the character so they seem better to you.
It's like how a ton of people love Yukiko from Persona 4. But if she wasn't attractive everyone would fricking hate her because she is a indecisive woman who led you by the nose only to settle for the thing she was running from the entire damn time.
You wouldn't intentionally make your character ugly unless you were pushing some Marxists agenda.
>2B’s deliberate attempt to be distant towards 9S, and others
>She tries not to get attached because she knows she’ll have to kill him again
>Literally all her teammates die in front of her in the beginning of the game
>2B quietly calling him “nines”
>2B trying to avoid explaining sex when that one machine girl asks, because she’s clearly embarrassed about it
>2B having to kill 9S and breaking down in tears because she really does care about him
>No personality
Dipshit
She was decent looking for a black chick back when she was young.
You didn't finish Automata if you think that applies to 2B
>NOOOO! IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!
>YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME!!!
>STOP CONTRADICTING ME!!!
>EVERYONE IS WRONG BUT ME!!!
>I MUST COOOOOM!!!!
Your deflection proves me right
Go on, watching ending e on youtube real quick so you can pretend you finished it and know what you're talking about
If 2bs "'character" is so deep and complex, then why do all internet discussions or any discussion of her at all always revolve around her ass? Geez, That might really indicate something.....
>Japanese devs make their characters sexy as an extra precaution to facilitate their personalities. To differentiate themselves from every other Japanese devs attractive characters.
Lol lmao. I guess Ivy valeninte, mai shrinaui, and baiken have so much "depth" to them, right? This just seems like a massive amount of copium to justify jerking off to your waifu.
>"You see, my waifu isnt a sex object because she has a reaallly sad backstory brooo! Shes so empowered by having her ass out all game man!".
>fighting game characters.
cool picking out a genre where story and personality doesn't matter.
You can have a stick figure with lipstick on it and be completely silent and the FGC will swear by it if it plays well.
>cool picking out a genre where story and personality doesn't matter.
They dont seem to matter in the majority of #BasedNippon games either. Western games grew up beyond gratitious objectification and shock value, while Japanese games still cater to 12 year olds and mentally 12 year old horny gamers (like (you).
>Western games grew up beyond gratitious objectification and shock value,
lmao no they didn't, name them go on
>Western games grew up
hahahaha aaahhh~. no they didn't.
Instead they objectify minorities, Gays, and Trans people. Using them as a check list for inclusion in video games and diversity hires. Existing in game sole to so show inclusion. Completely and utterly ignoring any reason why they would or wouldn't work in their settings.
Like the Gay wizard in Dragon age inquisition. Who's entire story is he's gay and his parents don't like it. Or Andromeda's "I'm trans" character that you talk to. Just blurts out that they are trans when you didn't ask and the topic at hand had 0 inclination for such information.
Western games didn't grow up. They shifted focus and now use other demographics and people as tools instead of making woman physically attractive is cosmetic work. Making a woman personality attractive is actual work.
>Western games grew up
lol
lmao
top kek
Reminder a "mature" western dev got filtered by a basic wall puzzle in Metroid Dread and had a total meltdown over getting filtered by basic game design.
Also reminder that a game journalist unironically called a game featuring a talking yellow sponge "too difficult and unforgiving"
If you struggle with games made for children you aren't mature in the slightest.
Im talking about the story telling and how western games dont degrade women to pander to a horny teenage audience anymore, idiot.
>Story telling
Is that what we call stealing plot points from some random Hollywood movie or TV show and adding MCU quips now?
>don't degrade women
Well yeah, can't have people know you're stealing a pregnant woman's breast milk or sexually assaulting them IRL now can you?
Because morons are loud.
Look at twitter. Breeding ground for stupidity with the loud and dumb at the helm.
2B does have a personality though, moron
forgotten with no fans
>IT DOESN'T COUNT
>I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
>IM A GROWN UP LOOK AT ME
>I GET TRIGGERED BECAUSE I DON'T FIND WESTERN CHARACTERS FRICKABLE
>WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE BUT ME
>BTW IT DOESN'T COUNT
Aloy looks fine and you're a homosexual.
>>I GET TRIGGERED BECAUSE I DON'T FIND WESTERN CHARACTERS FRICKABLE
Pretty much describes these people to a T.
They wrote with a horrible attitude. Like some some dude tells her something, and she acts like an butthole them for no reason to go one some woke diatribe.
That said, Eloy and her voice actress are quite frickable.
>They wrote with a horrible attitude. Like some some dude tells her something, and she acts like an butthole them for no reason to go one some woke diatribe.
>Game gives you the option between a friendly, factual, or abrasive response.
>Wow, She acts like an butthole.
Maybe don't pick the butthole dialogue choices, Jesus frick.
2b has plenty of personality. It just isn't in your face "strong womyn" like western characters.
Japs mastered the talent of having the penis and the upper brain be of one mind. In short, this results in better games that coincidentally happen to have fanservice. The few female artists they hire are either fashion autists or think with their pussies so their output is relatively equal.
>Horizon Zero Dawn
20m copies sold
>Nier Automata
5.5m copies sold
Proof that people want mature and well-thought out stories, not sexist coombait garbage
You dont know what objectification is, do you?
>Proof that people want mature and well-thought out stories
>Is.... is that a children's video game? SAVE ME MATUREMAN I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS DIFFICULT GAME IT'S TOO MUCH FOR ME
>You dont know what objectification is, do you?
degrading someone to that of an object. Which is exactly what the western studios do with minorities and the LGBTQ+. They are now a tool to be used to push units for said demographics. They are never written well and solely exist as a tool to market something to them. They are objectified.
Objectification in feminist theory is when a female character in media is sexualized and shown as an object of desire and lust for men.
Making up your own definition doesn't mean it's the actual definition anon.
Trap's aren't a derogatory term for Trans people. No matter how much they try to twist the words meaning. They are Males in drag who can pass as woman.
Not Males Deluding themselves thinking they are woman because they are closet gays.
>Objectification in feminist theory is when a female character in media is sexualized and shown as an object of desire and lust for men
Since Anon's here don't understand your made up theories allow me to translate it for the normal people here.
>Objectification is when a fat c**t gets super jealous over a fictional character being more appealing than her because she's moronic(see. a woman) and compares herself to things that aren't real and then loses to this fictional character in terms of appeal to men. Also she hates seeing men be happy.
Any further questions on this bizzare theory can be directed here where I'll answer your questions to the best of my ability.
My translation from moron to normal may have some issues here and there but has an accuracy of 99%. So please don't hesitate to ask.
>Disregarding a well known and analyzed theory because it makes your pp throw a tantrum.
Funny, because most "empowered" fighting frickdolls dont seem to have much depth either.
>a well known and analyzed theory
Women whining about someone being sexier or cuter than them and trying to cut that person down is far more well known and a proven fact
>Funny, because most "empowered" fighting frickdolls dont seem to have much depth either.
and if that turns out to be true. People can still enjoy the characters appearence.
When on the other hand the ugly as shit character turns out to have the personality of a brick and a body to match. You just forget the character exists and game sufferers for it.
I don't like these threads because the discussion always turn into very reductive shit flinging.
Most people don't actually care about 2B, they just think she's great fap material and this is where a lot of her fanbase comes from, the type of people who want to turn "horny on main" into a personality. The rest are the minority who've actually played Nier and even among them you'll find that most don't consider 2B their favourite Automata character.
As with Aloy, she's in those spots where she's well known, even to people who don't play games much even if they don't know her name, but nobody is crazy over her outside of one based waifugay. Like Modern Simpsons. A lot of it is due to the general aesthetic and tone of Horizon being very generic modern movie like. People remember and care about Last of Us despite also being movie like because it's a dark and emotional story, Horizon doesn't really have any highs or lows worth remembering and that's why there's little fanfare for Aloy.
Rather have a character with chance at depth be hot rather than a character be ugly as shit with a chance at depth.
Unfortunately. The ugly characters tend to never have such depth.
>Rather have a character with chance at depth be hot rather than a character be ugly as shit with a chance at depth.
One of the reasons characters gain fanbases is because of their design, there are plenty of cases were some background character gets a lot of fanart and shit purely because of how they look or sound.
>Unfortunately. The ugly characters tend to never have such depth.
Depends on what you mean by depth, sometimes it more of a case where you just don't like the writing or it just doesn't appeal to you rather than being a case of lack of depth.
Rebecca looks like visual diarrhea. But she's a great character.
While Lucy is just the mysterious smart girl with shady past but generally attractive. Guess who has more porn.
That's right. The Piccolo Dick Child.
>Anons described 2B's character and actions
>Not one lefty homosexual even tries to describe Alloys non existent personality
I think it's clear who is the female character with actual depth, being pretty doesn't detract from her personality, that is an ugly girl cope
The most annoying things about Aloy are she never ever shuts up and insists she is right 100% of the time and regardless of whether she technically is or isn’t, the game will not ever permit her to be chewed out for being annoying
The other worst thing about her is Ashley Burch voices her and 2 other identical versions of her and all 3 Ashley’s even have fricking conversations with each other, it’s so moronic and makes her annoying grating voice even worse and guess what else
None of the 3 Ashleys is ever wrong in any way or in any context in universe so it’s 3 insufferable loud talking women being right about everything
What a great fricking time it is to play
the biggest crime a woman real or vidya can commit is being ugly. attractive women can get away with anything while ugly women will be hated no matter what they do.