>Western videogame music. >Barely anything is memorable. >Japanese videogame music

>Western videogame music
>Barely anything is memorable
>Japanese videogame music
>Nearly everything is memorable
explain this

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    western bad japanese good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically yes. Only western games that have had good music were indie games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Factually true.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You should find examples of Canada and Norway while you're at it. Those tend to be the countries that are often propped up as the peak of the west.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Canada will be very low if you exclude immigrant shitholes. Someone got shot like 1500 km away from where I live and it was in every local paper and people were legit spooked about it for a couple weeks. Went for a haircut and, "did you hear about that man who was shot two weeks ago? So terrible."

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The UK just sounds like utter misery to be in the more I read and hear about it over the years.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's a nightmare and I try to just forget about it as much as I can, although pretty much everyone here thinks the country is a joke
          t. Bong

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you have my condolences bongbro

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know how people pretend that ethnic homogeneity doesn't foster social harmony

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Crime rate is going down everywhere, despite lowered ethnic homogeneity. Except in the UK, which has desperately tried to close itself off.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cool it with the anti-semitism.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wtf britbongs

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The UK just sounds like utter misery to be in the more I read and hear about it over the years.

          Of course crime's on the rise. They've handed out a million visas to foreigners in the last year alone, mostly turd worlders, and that's not counting the illegals that are coming in by literal hundreds every day (who are quickly processed and then shipped off to hotels to terrorise the local populace)
          This under a party that pledged to reduce immigration

          Some still try and spin it as incompetence but the ruling class here are legitimately evil top to bottom

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            imagine being a bong today

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf happend in france?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Correct

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your average self hating gay

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >self hating
        But that would imply that I'm white.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck off retard I can accept that japanese videogames have better soundtracks while also acepting that the japanese dont know how to make turn based games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >weeb
    >has retarded opinion

    https://youtu.be/CAZNX60BzYc
    https://youtu.be/T8j_KgAgOnw
    https://youtu.be/6Bz3wBuRpEQ
    https://youtu.be/yuySSmW5cfo
    https://youtu.be/lQIBT-a6jog
    https://youtu.be/6_racFoQbRQ
    https://youtu.be/3SF1yMNJ38k
    https://youtu.be/JgjqtIY_zww
    https://youtu.be/YNWSDvDqm9g
    https://youtu.be/yMSbZmXM3IY
    https://youtu.be/eh1zELpvOlM
    https://youtu.be/Qwv6Q1tGX8I
    https://youtu.be/WLLE_PvJ5mY
    https://youtu.be/xwMzeLa8rBY
    https://youtu.be/wo9rm_4FFA4
    https://youtu.be/m0beiqBvh9o
    https://youtu.be/crSqRZAfyZo
    https://youtu.be/J5ssfLmMJYQ
    https://youtu.be/YIT9OT0VZW0

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wanted to contribute with these

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Plok!
        What the fuck is this, how is this so high energy? Beach kinda sucks but the other two are great.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tim Follin

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          tim follin is one of the greatest video game music composers of all time but he only made songs for literally who games so people don't know about him
          also i don't know how much of beach you listened to but that one in particular gets much better as the track goes on

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Damn i've heard this silver surfer one before, nice I now have a name to find more of this shit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >pictionary going this fucking hard
            >solstice started out as boring ass generic shovelware, picks up instantly 30 seconds in
            >continues to fucking change like a prog rock album but who the fuck is going to actually hear this on the title screen of a game they probably clicked past in 5 seconds
            What the fuck

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shouldn't you be giving soundtracks that are full of memorable music rather than individual tracks from lots of different games?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He did. All these games where those individual tracks come from have outstanding soundtracks. The first game in the list is fucking Neverhood for fucks sake.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Metroid
      >Donkey Kong
      >2 of the 3 composers of Streets of Rage 4 are japanese
      lol nice job proving him right you couldn't even come with a list that didn't involve japs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Donkey Kong
        >David Wise made the best soundtrack of all SNES games
        Absolutely embarrassing to point out Donkey Kong. Fuck off zoomer.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >western composers become honorary Japanese if a Japanese company hires the studio they work for
        Interesting logic. Also if you check credits then you'd see that the French composer for SoR4 did the vast majority of the OST and Koshiro/Shimomura were just guests.

        I personally prefer Japanese OSTs but you're looking really biased here.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Kong was done by a Brit Bong.

        Stupid Amerimutt.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Metroid prime is an American game...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Prime’s soundtrack was composed by Kenji Yamamoto (not the Kenji Yamamoto who worked on DBZ and plagiarized half his shit). Calling out Donkey Kong was retarded though, composed by a British dude and one of the greatest soundtracks in gaming.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >posts motly ambience shit that no one ever remembers
      Are you trying to prove him right?
      Btw indies font count since they have heavy influences from japanese games, most non indie western games have shit soundtracks because they are ashamed of being games and want to imitate the forgetable music from hollywood movies

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking retard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      desu

      nice "post excellent western videogame music" thread though OP

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      out of these only city of tears stands out as good to me, however I just want to commend you to sticking to your guns here, ignoring spectacular western music because you know it's influenced by japanese music too much to really serve as an example, that takes guts.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is saying that Western vidya music in general is unmemorable and boring, not that ALL Western music is bad. And he's absolutely right, Western devs nowadays don't seem to give a shit about music.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Western soundtracks almost always fail to impress. Meanwhile, japanese games don't even have to try.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        your obsession with Japanese things is unhealthy and retarded

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He is right tho

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >JAP GOOD
            >WEST BAD
            ywnbaj

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I dont need to be japanese to know that western AAA games have souless osts

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Look man, I despise it, but it's just a hard fact of life by now. The japanese have a surprising prowess and refinement to their arts that other nations do not quite have yet. I believe that is mostly due to their work culture.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No its because AAA games are ashamed of being videogames, they wish they could be movies so they replicate several aspects from hollywood films includimg the lazy and forgetable ost

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean. When it comes to works created on the west, there's often (of course, not always) a noticeable sloppiness to it, like people are really lenient on the quality of the notes and other small details. In Japan, it seems that people are a lot more perfectionistic. The typical asian trope of being obsessed with meeting perfect scores. This translates into music, where artists focus on making insanely fast and concise melodies, whereas western musicians tend to go for slower, sloppier compositions in sake of "style".

              Call me a schizo, but I have no other way to explain the fact that the japanese can just take things from the west and sell it back to us whereas we can't do it for them. We need to step up our standards, although I'm hoping that this will eventually happen in the future.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your obsession with people who like Japanese things is unhealthy and retarded.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >LISA
      Ya don good Anon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese videogame music
      >Nearly everything is memorable
      This wasn't the case with Elden Ring kek.
      Also based

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought saying you have shit taste was just an echo-chamber but goddamn. You could have just said "I'm fucking deaf but hate weebs" and gotten a free pass.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Not posting the GOAT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weeaboos forever BTFO

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      great selection but 95% of it is old ass boomer shit. Meanwhile Japan is still routinely putting out bangers.
      Pretty much the only Western vidya composer that stands out today is Toby Fox, who's heavily influenced by Japanese works to the point of plagiarism.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My personal favorite soundtrack of more modern western games is Vermintide 1 and 2.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not only are some of these not western, you literally proved his point

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        which ones aren't western here?
        every single game I see there that you might think isn't really is
        sor4, metroid prime, and donkey kong country are all western developed games with western music composers and producers
        as a small exception, sor4 has a handful of guest japanese composers, but overall it's not

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          m8 pls

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >weebs impotently seething
      Based.
      And don't you forget

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Qud has such great tracks, fits like a glove to the world

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >anon has all these links cocks and ready to post within 4 minutes of the thread's creation.
      Samefagging hard, OP. This thread is a false flag to make weebs and Japanese music look bad.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wrong, I had them ready to go because I've posted them before to argue against a retard that said Western music sucks
        pic related

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Says RPGs are for fags
          >Cites a bunch of music from RPGs.
          I hate most of your packaged posts. Delete them and be a normal human being.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some of these are terrible.
      What the fuck were you thinking?
      Some ARE good, but others... holy shit.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is the new show good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have shit taste in music

      Made especifically to attract the newer generations with their short-term memories, ADDs, ADHDs or HDDVDs. It's unnecessary flashy and at times there is too much shit happening on the screen, it's very distracting and can get annoying at times.
      If you can tolerate that kind of simulation (or actually enjoy it), then yeah it's actually good.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You have shit taste in music
        Great taste in music*
        When was the last time a Western video game had a math rock/jazz fusion/prog rock track?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol thought you would mention Persona or Etrian Odyssey with that description. Always found it interesting how Japanese VGM composers are the ones more common to utilize jazz/rock, western originated genres, in its media than the actual west these days.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even metal, the best metal soundtrack in gaming made by Americans is Jamie Christopherson... for Metal Gear Rising. Given how many of the games he's composed for are Japanese it's probably not much of a stretch to say he's been inspired by them himself.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kirby soundtracks are the GOAT. Love how their soundtrack titles are now similar to Touhou's, another series that is well known for its music.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's unfair that Mario games get soulless corporate carnival jazz music while Kirby gets some of the wildest and creative jazz rock in vidya.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you will never have sex with a japanese woman

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      and you will never be a woman

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've had sex with 4 so far and my current gf is japanese too. not much else to choose from here in tokyo

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you just blatantly lie like that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't eat a bug, much less fuck one.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play the gacha at asian massage parlors enough and you will hit pity eventually.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Saw that Sakura was censored in the remake, not going to watch it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Censored how?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You ask Japan for music they give you music, might even find cool stuff from classical or prog rock to add
    You ask John West for music he will fly to Budapest Orchestra (it's cheap) and fart in wind instruments until he has enough brass to cover up the disastrous sound design with hours of muffled braps (5 notes melody please understand)

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You’re a weeb who thinks anything made by Japan is considered godly. You’re already too far gone for an explanation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm so happy I finally came out of this mindset, I used to have this really bad habit of feeling like I "owed" it to publishers to buy whatever weird niche JRPG they shoved out no matter how bad it was.
      Some were legit ok but most were hot garbage that sold entirely on the premises that the girls were cute.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >most were hot garbage that sold entirely on the premises that the girls were cute
        This is still very much prevalent today, especially here on Ganker. Most people don't even play the games but just come here to spam pictures of the characters

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    videogame music
    everything is memorable
    nah, japs held out a bit longer but their stuff's boring now too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no it isnt. Even jap indies have better music than western indies. The entire Switch library is full of memorable music while no such thing exists for the Xbox and PS library INCLUDING third parties

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Japan is still a meritocracy.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only western game I can think of that has music that's consistently on par with top tier Japanese music is Deus Ex.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The influences of most notable Japanese game composers are rooted in Jazz Fusion and Power Metal. Very melodic, very catchy, lots of chords changing. Western composers were/are more inspired more by electronic music and film scores which generally don't stick in your head very easily but can work well as backing for the gameplay.

    Obviously there are exceptions as every composer has different influences and modern game composers are often influenced by other game composers, but in general Japanese game music is generally something you'd find on a standalone album, while western game music is more of a dedicated soundtrack. I think the JP & US OSTs for Sonic CD might be the most obvious example since that illustrates it within a single game.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BBC dub best dub

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because japs value a good soundtrack as part of the experience but westerners just see music as part of the background like a generic film score

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's because you're a gay weeaboo who doesn't have any friends

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As usual, when people say western games they mean AAA titles and the 0.5% of indie games they've personally seen.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      even western indies have inferior music compared to japanese indies. Ultrakill was the last time a "western" game's music got my attention, and I say it like that because the dev may be indian or something

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ultrakill is made by a finn iirc

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah
        I'd say western and jaoanese indie are on the same level of music quality

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Westaboos so desperate for affirmation and validation on a Japanese hobbyist website?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It really is a mystery. It's like they think there are Japanese talent scouts here who will invite them to their country if they consume their entertainment media. It really seems that way.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Read the post again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker is not an anime website

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The more accurate way to word this is that cinematic games, WRPGs, and open world games, genres that are stereotypically western, tend to have completely unmemorable and bland soundtracks due to the need to either make the music softer in order to showcase the voice acting more, or to have the tracks be atmospheric in order to accommodate the open world. Hell, even games like Mario Odyssey show this with how much its tracks are much less melodic than previous 3d Marios or within a single game, A Hat in Time where the track for the open world Alpine Skyline isn't as interesting as the soundtracks of all the more linear levels. (besides Alpine Skyline at Night which is more linear than the regular levels)

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the ost of a pokemon spin off game btfo the ost of 99% of western AAA games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not posting the best one
      ngmi

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The west is soulless and too influenced by Hollywood and wokeism to ever produce anything resembling soul. Once you get past the shiny exterior you realize how shallow western games truly are. Western games are actually a whole lot like pretty thots. All looks but nothing else going for them outside of their looks.

    Meanwhile Japanese games can have it all including looks. They just don't necessarily get to enjoy the same level of shilling (aka marketing) that western games get.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      deus sex

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    videogame music
    everything is memorable
    Only find that true in the case of most old works done outside of vidya. Can't notice any difference otherwise.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shinji Miyazaki did the music for the Pokemon anime and he had some kino pieces
      https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/pokemon-pocket-monsters-sound-anime-collection
      'Meeting and Parting' is especially beautiful, still makes me teary-eyed sometimes

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan isn't actually very good at making legendary vgm background music. But there are some great composers who live there. There are also great composers who live elsewhere in the world, but with some of the biggest game studios (Nintendo, Square Enix, etc.) being in Japan, the great composers who end up working at those game studios tend to be Japanese.
    There are also some cultural differences when it comes to the music, and that comes out especially with all the rock influence going around in American music (and the Anglosphere that pays attention to it). Aquaria has been said to have great music, but it's just four-chord bleh music. It's pretty, don't get me wrong, but the four-chord phenomenon is a rock thing. In other cultures, repeating four chords and calling it a song isn't as popular.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're wrong. Go to school, moron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No argument
        What a great contribution to the thread anon.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Leitmotif, character themes and melody. Usually.
    Undertale understood this and it's probably why people remember that soundtrack.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Personally I liked the game, but I didn't really care for its soundtrack much, which is strange considering in theory it -should- be something up my alley..

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure you can still remember it even if you didn't like it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This basically. Western composers are soulless and just do generic "bwaaaaaaaah" epic sounds.
      While Japanese composers actually have soul. Love all FFs for the music even if the games itself varies. And we can already hear what the main "theme" of FF16 is gonna be:

      ?t=114 (The male choir)

      ?t=14 (the solo female vocal behind the prelude theme)
      Just wanted to share.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        FF music is blatantly lifted from western bands
        When you say you like FF music you really are saying you like western music

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like western music done by japanese composers because they do it right.
          There you go.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >both sound like overproduced "hollywood action film" tracks

        Jesus.
        whatever happened to them making stuff like this

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only western video game OST that matters

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Westerners have no soul, so they're only capable of creating extremely bland music and settings.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's always japanese everything compared to western AAA production in these threads.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The West simply can't compete.
    2:57

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are the Japs abandoning power metal soundtracks for jazz soundtracks now?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not combine both?
        2:48

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like a Touhou song, but a little bit more tone deaf, which is surprising.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >evo

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, it's better than the original and super arrange, even.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Bullshit, Super Arrange is by far the best version.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The super arrange lacks all of the extra moments, clean production and far more technically proficient guitar solos that evo introduces.

                The proggy keyboard solo followed by the blistering guitar solo in the Evo version of Formidable Enemy elevates it far beyond the original or super arrange.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The super arrange lacks all of the extra moments, clean production and far more technically proficient guitar solos that evo introduces.
                And yet it still sounds better.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know I'm kind of late, but I'd like to mention Wipeout 2097 (and Wipeout in general) as a non Japanese memorable OSTs.

    Also System Shock 2. Honestly a lot of 90s-00s non jap games got great OSTs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      brits are just japs with bad teeth

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western devs want their games to be like movies
    Japanese devs want their games to be like anime.
    For the most part, it doesn't apply to everyone like Capcom or Wayforward.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Voice acting and retarded society in western.
    Anything "too cheerful" will be immediately dropped by Madden dudebros, so we need cinematic OST for them to play without feeling embarassed about blasting a gay ass cute song that their parents and sisters bf could hear so they'd ask "what is that gay children music hahaha im reporting you to the police for being a child rapist or something

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, just play some caramaldansen and I'm happy.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when was the last good western vidya composer?
    kirkhope?
    there's some good indie ones but it's well-known indies aren't the same level of trash as normal

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      From the top of my head

      Dave Wise, Tim Follin, Chris Huelsbek, Frank Klepacki, Marty O'Donnell, Jeremy Soule

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Read the post you're replying to again
        Most of these haven't been in the industry in ages and Chris Huelsbek got exposed as a plagiarist who ripped off old Jap vidya soundtracks, but what makes it worse is when confronted about this in the last few years he straight-up lied and said it was all a coincidence and he's never heard of these games (despite being caught citing one of these games soundtracks as an influence in the 1990s)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tim Follin makes FMV games now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Chris Huelsbek got exposed as a plagiarist who ripped off old Jap vidya soundtracks, but what makes it worse is when confronted about this in the last few years he straight-up lied and said it was all a coincidence and he's never heard of these games (despite being caught citing one of these games soundtracks as an influence in the 1990s)
          Bullshit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cope
            >Chris Huelsbeck

            >original

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Musicians constantly screech about "copying" or "plagiarism". The truth is there are only so many different songs you can make and melodies or beats will inevitably sound similar at some point.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not the plagiarism that's the worst part, it's the fact that when confronted about it he openly said it was a coincidence and that he's never heard of that game before, despite in the past, on record, saying that that very same series's music was a huge influence on his style.
                It wouldn't be so bad if he admitted that it sounded similar and said that he must have not noticed or something instead of straight-up lying to save his ass.

                Much of Chris Huelsbeck's tracks are eerily identical to a lot of Japanese-exclusive game soundtracks on the PC-Engine and Japanese PCs.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not the plagiarism that's the worst part, it's the fact that when confronted about it he openly said it was a coincidence and that he's never heard of that game before, despite in the past, on record, saying that that very same series's music was a huge influence on his style.
                It wouldn't be so bad if he admitted that it sounded similar and said that he must have not noticed or something instead of straight-up lying to save his ass.

                Much of Chris Huelsbeck's tracks are eerily identical to a lot of Japanese-exclusive game soundtracks on the PC-Engine and Japanese PCs.

                And the best part about Huelsbeck constantly plagiarizing Yuzo Koshiro music and then pretending he's never heard of it and it's all a coincidence is that he actually fucking met Yuzo Koshiro in person.

                The fact that he straight-up lied instead of owning up to it made me lose all respect for him.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Forgot image. Chris on the left, Yuzo on the right.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's true and Martin Odonnel and Jeremy Soule both got cancelled for looking at women the wrong way.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think since people found follin's old stuff and talked to him about it he started doing some indie stuff, but that was kind of my point, pretty much any good western stuff nowadays is indie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tee Lopes has been fantastic and did a good job with the new TMNT game this year:

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh yeah the sonic mania composer? Better than the Japanese composers for sonic forces themselves lol. Another example of my theory that lower scale tends to be better for music.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jeremy Soule

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Megalovania was played for the Pope.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're just a child. When you consume enough media from both sides of the globe, you'll realize that most midi shit in jap games is insanely derivative and boring. The problem with western scores is that it often tries to be a cinema sountrack with louds of hans zimmer style sweeps and little in the way of melody. But zero melody is as offensive as a midi track with a melody ripped from an 00s anime, that ripped it from an old nintendo game that koji kondo ripped from an american jazz record from the 60s. You're just innocent and naive. The truth is that the Jeremy Soules and Keiichi Okabes of the world are few and far between in the east and the west.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmai even at ripping off, japs still do a better job, seethe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd much rather hear "midi shit" rather than generic orchestra for the millionth time, at least midi stuff makes me feel something I cant remember a single western AAA ost, I think doom eternal and xcom 2 tlp are the only exceptions

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >orchestra
        ?? Some of the best japanese tracks are performed by an orchestra. Having the composition be played by human hands is a sure fire way to inject soul into a production - thats true around the world. Are you thinking of ambient music? Incidental sountracks? You shouldnt join in on convernsarions when you dont have the vocabulary to understand them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Having the composition be played by human hands is a sure fire way to inject soul into a production
          lol
          lmao
          It's not 100% one way or the other but the easiest way to make a soulless piece of music has just been throw an orchestra at it and not actually put any effort into the piece itself

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd much rather hear "midi shit" rather than generic orchestra
        I would've agreed a long time ago, if not for me "broadening my horizons" a bit since then...

        And even Western stuff has its fair share of nice tunes...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd rather listen to generic jap track 47 than whatever sorry excuse for music the western industry puts out now. It may not be original but it sounds good and that's all I care about.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western games will settle with orchestral scores more often than the east although I can think of instances where the roles are reversed and the same thing occurs. It’s mostly why in vidya ost threads i always get confused when people post a bunch of generic final fantasy songs when if a western game used it no one would care.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The thing about western (AAA games at least. I do acknowledge that Japanese AAA games also have a habit of doing this) orchestral music is that usually ambient background music with little to no melody. What makes a catchy memorable track is if it's transcribed onto a solo piano cover or 8-bit it'd still sound good and recognizable as actual tunes whereas orchestral ambient tracks are far less recognizable.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think the west in general is moving away from melodies which is lame. If i had to pick some scores that i at least remember i would say skyrim because at least i would recognize most of the tracks if someone played them to me out of context. But the more i try to pick games with memorable soundtracks its mostly due to the repetition instead of leaving an impression

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The combat music in skyrim is so generic that its sad

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, Prince of Persia games had some nice music:

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mogs your tranime jpop

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MGR>

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The MGR music is made by westerns.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is
          But its a japanese game, you would never see music like that in a western AAA

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The comparison is even more retarded then because you're not even comparing composition styles or the artists, it's literally "jap game music good because it jap" kys

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not its more like "jap music good because the west refuses to use anything but the most generic music"

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA but there is a distinct style difference. Vocal tracks for boss themes isn't common in western franchises. And as stated above, Jamie Christopherson composes for a lot of Japanese games similar to Toby Fox so it's pretty clear they were inspired by Japanese games themselves. Where the composer is from isn't relevant when it's about the style the composition is based off of.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ambient is le bad
    Ok then why do Minecraft and the Elder Scrolls have some of the most popular soundtracks across several platforms?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      minecraft does not have a popular soundtrack and the most popular piece from an elder scrolls game is a full song with lyrics

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Minecraft soundtrack isn’t popular
        Huh? bro just open up Spotify and search volumes alpha and beta. Literally over a 110 million on one song
        >only vocal tracks
        In a fictional language. That’s not even counting all the actual ambient ones like streets of Whiterun or Secunda.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >In a fictional language.
          what's your point? it's the exact opposite of ambient music, and it's the only well known piece because of it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Does it really count if no one speaks the language?
            >only popular song

            Millions disagree

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Does it really count if no one speaks the language?
              yes? what kind of question is this
              do japanese songs become ambient music just because you don't speak japanese?
              do the chaos language songs in nier/drakengard become ambient music just because that language also doesn't exist?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lol this is the sales argument at its peak. You know damn well all these views are just because of the sheer amount of skyrim-only casuals looking up the only things they're familiar with. No one is bringing up "Skyrim ambience-night" as favorite tracks in video game oriented discussions. There's no concerts that utilize that, VGM reaction channels aren't going to react to that, there's literally not a single fan remix of it. It's the equivalent of saying Angry Birds has the best gameplay that's the most popular with gamers because just look at how well known it is, it even got a movie! Hell, even Angry Birds main theme has some fan covers due to the sheer fame.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because normie casuals just buy on brand recognition and mostly buy them purely for their award bait vocal songs that only play during cinematic moments or the credits.
      The games that get full soundtrack concerts, fan remixes, and musician react to VGM channels speak the real story.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >remixes
        You mean like all the zoomers turning out lofi of Sweden.
        >concerts
        What like Halo?
        >musicians react
        A bunch of literal whos?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >appeal to popularity
      >x le bad meme
      The only thing that could make you even more of a stereotype would be a wojak image with an iphone filename

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh popularity
        Alright AC and COD are also both be very popular games that use ambient soundtracks. And no one cares about theirs, but they do MC’s.

        lol this is the sales argument at its peak. You know damn well all these views are just because of the sheer amount of skyrim-only casuals looking up the only things they're familiar with. No one is bringing up "Skyrim ambience-night" as favorite tracks in video game oriented discussions. There's no concerts that utilize that, VGM reaction channels aren't going to react to that, there's literally not a single fan remix of it. It's the equivalent of saying Angry Birds has the best gameplay that's the most popular with gamers because just look at how well known it is, it even got a movie! Hell, even Angry Birds main theme has some fan covers due to the sheer fame.

        Search the actual songs in OST then, oh look they’re all getting plenty of views.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Search the actual songs in OST then, oh look they’re all getting plenty of views.

          Literally my whole point is that purely using views on a single channel is a fallacy because those views are just due to the game itself being famous, not the tracks itself. As I said, the vast majority of those tracks aren't getting fan remixes or being reacted to by reaction channels. Are you forgetting the fact that tracks for many games often get copyright struck? The Super Mario Bros theme only has 10 million views. You really going to say this theme is less iconic than Persona 5's Last Surprise? Same with Pokemon RBY themes that have less views than the most recent gens.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there are games where ambient music with subdued motifs is suitable and can even be very memorable. minecraft is one of them

      random example from western dev: outer wilds

      random example from Japanese dev: silent hill 2

      I don't like when tracks that should be bombastic and exciting don't have a strong motif though, or when they have one but it's weirdly de-emphasized. and in my (limited experience) this is more of a thing in western games. it's like they don't want anyone to actually notice the music other than to realize that it's there, like they think it's gay or embarrassing or something. there's something about the production that I can't articulate because I'm not a musicfag
      random (poor) western example: warhammer tw

      random (better) japanese example: OG Rome Total War

      AAA films have the same problem though maybe even worse than games do. I saw all of those shitty avengers movies and still had to be reminded of how the main theme went by hearing it just now

      shitty modern example: avengers

      less modern, better example: phantom menace (shit movie good score)

      even older good example: Ben Hur

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >random (better) japanese example: OG Rome Total War
        I know nobody has pointed out the mistake but I meant western obviously

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Minecraft because it's just a ripoff of a good album, Plantasia.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need games that aren't shitty western Snoyshit orchestra setpiece bait.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Americans were never supposed to become interested in Anime like the rest of the World
    Funimation heavily twisted dbz to make Anime become a thing which is surreal but it fitted past america mentality
    Op is one of those anime that was known in the rest of the world but not america so they gauge a modern remakes to find it's existence

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ai post.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As I alluded to in my post complimenting the western guy, its got nothing to do with japanese per say, but rather, the way they make their music is largely stuck in the 80s. they never abandoned the pop and groove roots of their music scene, and it just so happens that that kind of repeating brain worm makes good background music that needs to loop over and over and over.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb weeb

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh85GHBe6xY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlxzYjvcBPI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qdyQXxSPPA&t
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO0XO7XRl2I

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mostly indie games
      Cool AAA osts dude
      Also
      >didnt even post the best track from blasphemous

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >posting project wingman
      it has great tracks sure but it still gets mogged by every ace combat game in the soundtrack department

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lucasarts and ID software have a word to say to you
    And this word is "help me, california took over and killed us"

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    western music direction
    >irrelevant ambient music in the background, basically the equivalent of elevator music and just as unmemorable
    japanese music direction
    >absolute bangers intertwined with and married to the gameplay, ingraining in to memory better because they're tied distinctly with the overall gaming experience

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every western movie has a recognisable pavlov three to five note segment that they play during "epic" moments of the movie so the viewer knows the scene is epic
    I am so sick of this trope.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >btfos every nip attempt at jazz

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If there's anything that has been lost by Valve refusing to make videogames, it's their soundtracks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, I will acknowledge this. This was 15 years ago.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The entire argument was recently, no one's arguing that the west has never made anything good.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok then how recent do you want?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Silent day eh?
              I think he can move goalpost few more times

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              5 years

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And still Jazz!
                Go on, tell me how this is “Japanese inspired”

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Indie
                what part aren't you getting here, anon?
                but yes cuphead does have fantastic music

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats and indie
                Better luck next time

                >IT DOESNT COUNT IT DOESNT COUNT IT DOESNT COUNT IT DOESNT COUNT IT DOESNT COUNT
                Here’s your last
                >you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Start an argument talking about how western studios don't make good music anymore
                >Only post music from old games or not from big studios
                ok buddy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does it say anywhere in the OP that it has to be a AAA studio in the last 3 years?
                And let’s just ignore all the Jap tracks itt that are 20 years or older

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >OP talks about western and japanese music in general
                >people post good western music
                >n-no, not that kind, I'm only looking for western music made for games with $300 million budgets released in the past 5 years

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there isnt a single big budget weatern game released in the last 5 years eith a good soundtrack
                The fact that we are even arguing this is just sad
                Here have a good track from a japamese game released recently

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moving the goalposts this hard just proves you don't have an argument you're willing to stand by. We'll continue posting good western music, you're free to continue seething.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We'll continue posting good western music, you're free to continue seething.
                Yes all that memorable music from western AAA games like DOOM ETERNAL and.... hum....

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >N-NO! Come back here a-and disprove my point! I'm not done arguing yet!
                >please?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DoS 2 has good soundtrack too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkOESOfXkY0

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >completly ignores the point of the discussion
                We stablished early that indies dont count, we are talking about AAA games and you couldnt even do that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats and indie
                Better luck next time

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bruh the entire game is inspired from old Japanese Run-n-Gun/shmup games like Contra, Silhouette Mirage, and Parodius. The designs of Cuphead and Mugman themselves were based on an old Japanese propaganda cartoon.
                https://screenrant.com/cupheard-cartoon-art-inspiration-max-fleisher-walt-disney/
                Also
                https://www.reddit.com/r/Cuphead/comments/ehnqq3/the_japanese_are_so_lucky/
                Sally had a random Final Fantasy reference phase that had nothing to do with her theme at all. The devs obviously loved Japanese games.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, that one Carnival theme sounds a lot like Super Mario World's Athletic.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We’re talking about music here

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, indie western games that harken back to classic Japanese games tend to also have the best music. It's not really a coincidence. I was the one that talked about how the design philosophy of western oriented genres like cinematic and open world make for less memorable themes than the linear and stage/boss oriented themes of stereotypically Japanese style games.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Go on, tell me how this is “Japanese inspired”
                Anon, I...

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Easy mode, post 2012, hard mode, post 2016.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong infact usually Japanese music is extremely generic
    Nothing has topped fable for me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry, but I've heard this countless times when playing PS2 games. Too slow and vague melodies are just sprinkled over the song.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The west sold its soul for money. It's also why the USA empire is falling.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Halo infinites OST is pretty good

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western music can be memorable and fun too, but people tend to follow trends.
    I could link some memorable western music, but it would become "doesn't count" race and I am just plain tired of that.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone doesn’t play indie games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As I alredy said
      Indies dont count since they are heavily influenced by japanese games
      Do you think a AAA studio would ever make a game like furi?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about synth music is Japanese? If anything they’re copying a trend started by Hotline Miami

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What about synth music is Japanese
          Yellow Magic Orchestra. which was admittedly inspired by kraftwerk (the two were contemporaries)
          Probably one of the most important bands for influencing early vidya music.
          Granted they aren't synthwave which Furi leans heavily toward, but still

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Using songs from actual bands is cheating

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most if not all the music in FURI was made for the game tho,

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >advertisement
    >rap
    >battle song
    >rap
    To the trash it goes.

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >A single country (Japan)
    versus
    >60 countries (ThE wEsT)

    What makes Japan so powerful that both people who love Japan, and people who hate Japan, universally agree that to even compete the opposition of 60 countries needs to combine into one entity?

    also does anybody find it bizarre that people will criticize Japanese for not being innovative since they're performing American or British genres, but go full soiface when Germans play an American or British genre because it's somehow all tHe WeSt and somehow the Germans are just as responsible for a music genre that originated in the UK or America?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yellow fever.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but go full soiface when Germans play an American or British genre because it's somehow all tHe WeSt and somehow the Germans are just as responsible for a music genre that originated in the UK or America?
      It's funny because the greatest German rock band of all time had a Japanese frontman for their three best albums.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I find it amusing they just picked him off the streets. Like just some random japanese dude just wandering 60s west germany

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japan was a tech giant when the industry started up and produced the earliest arcade hits like Space Invaders and Pac-Man just by virtue of having a booming industry with a lot of people in it. Nintendo, SEGA, & Sony were all major names in console hardware, and other companies popped up to produce hardware and software alike. They just got a foothold early. Most countries in "The West" don't have as large of a history in video games as Japan, and with the US it's that corporate interests have railroaded it into certain shitty trends for a long time (not that some big Japanese companies don't have stupid suits in charge now).

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >post an indie soundtrack
    >>THAT DOESNT COUNT ONLY AAA DOES!! BESIDES ITS “JAPANESE INSPIRED”
    >post a triple A OST
    >THAT DOESNT COUNT YOURE JUST PANDERING TO POPULARITY
    It’s all so tiresome

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>post a triple A OST
      >>THAT DOESNT COUNT YOURE JUST PANDERING TO POPULARITY
      Come on anon, I'm sure you can post at least ONE good AAA ost right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is that supposed to be good?
          Here let me help you

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mirror's Edge has one of the greatest video game OSTs of all time.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That fact that you unironically belive this is just sad

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So this is why western game OSTs suck ass...
                their audience just has shit taste.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I played mirrors edge like 4 times and I can remember a single track from it, the music is too quiet and doesnt have enough intensity to be memorable

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Western indies do count and are good.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one thing jap and other bug men soundtracks fail to imbue is the sound of heroism

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron please
      Just don't even start

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oops not vidya

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >soundtracks fail to imbue is the sound of heroism
      Heh

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that dude is nuts. Jap games are filled with heroic climatic music in its boss, climatic dungeons, and final dialogue themes while climatic moments in AAA westoid games often have no music at all if it isn't some non-looping accompaniment tied to a cutscene or a vocal song.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You just play shitty western games, I presume. Probably only the mainstream one. Poor taste.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And thats exactly the problem even mainstream japanese games have good soundtracks, meanwhile you would have troubles recalling the music from most AAA games made in the west

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >weeaboo whines about western games having orchestral scores
    >then posts a bunch of Japanese orchestral scores

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >generic orchestra ≠ all orchestra music
      Here let me spoonfeed you an example of a non japanese orchestral theme that sounds good and not forgetable

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even fucking porn games have better soundtracks than the average Western game.

    These track literally play over a sex scene.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's your porn soundtrack bro

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western games all try to ape hollywood, japanese games don't.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    genuine earworm

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Elden ring boss appears
    >Song is generic orchestra with vocals
    >Forget it immediately after

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes all souls games have shit music we all know that, each game has like 1 or 2 decent tracks and thats about iit

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make way for kino

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thoroughly mediocre game, nice music tho

    ?t=323

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thing 😐
    >thing, Japan :O

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, I love western games. The fact that their soundtracks are less melodic and catchy is pretty noticeable though, outside of indies.

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what I’ve garnered here is that
    >loud and bombastic = good
    >slow and melodic = bad

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AAA western games cant even do that right

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hmmmmmm

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No those are the taste from retarded emo/metal shitheads. Both "loud and bombastic" and "slow and melodic" are good but most people agree they have to be catchy and suitable and memorable for the games/moments they are played. The nico medleys are beloved because of that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      generic and shit = bad
      good = good

      as simple as

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing about the west and the east when it comes to artistic endeavors is that the west produces stuff that is either excellent, or utter dogshit. There doesn't seem to be a middling setting. Meanwhile, consistency is the hallmark of the east, but their highs and lows are (generally) milder due to this.

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s less western vs Japanese but a matter of scale. Bigger AAA games with a lot of focus on the action, on sound effects, on voice acting, will have the soundtrack be more in the background and more atmospheric. Meanwhile games on a smaller scale will have the music be front and center so they need to be catchier and stronger.

    Undertale creator Toby Fox and Touhou creator ZUN, two big names in the VGM field also talked about the design philosophy where they make it so that the earlier levels and bosses start off simple and build up to where the final and hardest bosses have the best and strongest themes playing both to showcase how far you’ve gone and so that you won’t feel too bad when losing because trying again will have you listening to it again.

    AAA games just don't really utilize that philosophy (some not even having bosses) which is where the discrepancy lies. I don't think it's a stretch to say the music is simply much less of a priority than the visuals, presentation, and the other aspects that make up AAA games.

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Xenoblade X has the best game soundtrack ever.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if that were true I would've heard a track from it by now.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look it up, it's good 🙂 Hiroyuki Sawano did the music for it.

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The more these westoids resist the more I want to bully them

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I recently finished the Dragon Age trilogy. Outside of the Main theme/camping theme for Origins, there isn't a single memorable track aside from this being overused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQKidnFsTUg

    You all jerked off Jesper Kyd so much I checked out Darksiders 2 before DA. I suppose the praise is the interesting use of instruments or something because none of it was fucking memorable aside from 1 track only. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tob_KO45uns

    The fact none of you gays defending westernshit name anything from Olivier Deriviere much tells me all I need to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Rid-jqhn8&t=455s

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zelda music is based on a Plantasia album
    A lot of Jap music is inspired from western.

    As for memorable western videogame music.
    >DKC2 OSTs
    >Runescape OSTs
    >Warcraft OSTs
    >Various DMC pieces
    >Spyro OSTs
    >Minecraft OSTs
    >HL/HL2 OSTs
    >Darkest Dungeon OSTs
    >Binding of Isaac OSTs
    List goes on, just gave you a bunch of ones many people can easily play in their head

    Stuff you like =/= Memorable btw

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair if you go back far enough even anime was originally based off of old disney animations. The stuff people praised about modern Japan is usually just originally western stuff modern western creators seem to do less of.

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese video game music is mostly just a mash of Western influences, some of it even directly copying songs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point of "creating" something if a foreign nation does it 1000x better than you. Cope and perish.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah I wonder which is better

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like the Zelda song a little better, but this is just my bias, the other song seems to have a lot more going on. What's the point of comparing an old piece with a song from this century anyway...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ?t=23
          Sing the LW melody on top of this.

          >and the first thing that'll come to mind is Final Fantasy
          squeenix games in general really, any given ost will probably have some good tracks but the rest is orchestralslop

          >any given ost will probably have some good tracks
          IF they have any these days, regardless of the arrangement.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Western influences
      Stop using this term you stupid motherfucker.
      Use AMERICAN influences.
      Use BRITISH influences
      etcetera.
      Germany, Spain, France, Sweden, Canada, and whatever random European country you want to throw in didn't pioneer or invent 90% of the relevant genres you see in various mainstream media

      People who use "b-but The West" to argue against Japan are fucking delusional.

      How come Japan gets shit on for being a mash of "Western influences" (primarily British or American) when a game developed in Sweden with a rock (American genre) soundtrack is completely fine?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Germany: countless classical bands, krautrock, pioneers of electronic with bands like kraftwerk stockhausen etc

        France, Sweden: big in electronic music, house, nightcore, eurodance etc

        Canada: literally just America light, 1/10th the population and still has notable music scenes, Post-rock, shit like leonard cohen, etc

        shows you know shit about modern music

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shows you know shit about modern music
          I know more about music than you, buddy.
          >krautrock
          Rock subgenre, Americai in origin.
          >Pioneers of electronic with bands like kraftwerk, stockhausen
          Electronic is not a genre, that's like saying guitar is a genre.
          However, the first examples of electronic music are all American, see Thaddeus Cahill.
          >big in electronic music
          See above
          >house, nightcore, eurodance,
          Electronic dance music originated in America.
          >post-rock
          Subgenre of rock music, which is American in origin.

          Now, I actually don't believe that these countries are unoriginal, but the same exact retards who claim Japan is unoriginal for using "WeStErN" genres will give literally every non-American or non-British Western country a pass for doing the same exact thing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >American in origin
            african american

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Electronic, House, Acid, DnB, Trance, etc. all stem from the Chicago club scene you fucking tard.
          Germany, France, and Sweden didn't even get into making that shit until the mid 80s when the UK was mass importing indie Chicago House records.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Germany literally made electronic in the 60s you dumb moron

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Electronic instruments were invented in America in the late 1800s you stupid gay, and were used in various styles of music leading up to the 50s.

              Germany was just the first to do away with normal instruments altogether and produce entirely electronic music, but even then this is debateable as there were American groups and Japanese groups doing the same thing in the same time period.

              Chicago invented them, but the euros refined and perfected them

              That's besides the point. The point being that people shit on Japanese music for being unoriginal by using """Western""" (American) genres and styles of music, yet gives a pass when France or Germany decides to play an American genre.

              Literally all Popular Music genres are derivative from America. Why shouldn't Germany or France be held to the same standards of Japan and be called copycats?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Chicaco
                >Germany 80s
                Moving goalposts dumb moron

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moving goalposts
                I'm not, read all of the replies in this chain you demented gay.
                German electronic music is derived from electronic instruments which are American in origin and have been used in
                Electronic music is NOT a genre.
                In the same way that "guitar music" is not a genre.

                Electronic Dance Music IS a genre. Electronic Dance Music originated in Chicago and was exported to Europe.
                The experimental German electronic music of the 50s and 60s has nothing to do with Electronic Dance music, and is derivative/influenced by 20th century art music which incorporated electronic instruments into their stuff, which was a French movement, taken from American instruments.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ramblings of a madman. You are making shit up as you go

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post a single thing I got wrong, musically illiterate gay.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah he's right the euros basically took whatever the burgers were doing and ran away with it. The brits did the same with rock music decades earlier as everyone knows

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This derivative brainrot is insane. Chronologically most burgers music are just derivative of European classical music and beyond

                Post a single thing I got wrong, musically illiterate gay.

                Yeah surely Kraftwerk was genreless, dumb gay

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah surely Kraftwerk was genreless
                Nobody said this.
                Again, "electronic music" is not a genre, in the same way that "guitar music" is not a genre or that "piano music" is not a genre.
                Kraftwerk is art pop, krautrock, and synthpop.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why shouldn't Germany or France be held to the same standards of Japan and be called copycats?
                Germany and France don't have an equivalent geek fascination with them as Japan has with japanophilia, evidenced by the very OP itself
                There's naturally going to be more scrutiny and pushback put on Japan as a result

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why shouldn't Germany or France be held to the same standards of Japan and be called copycats?
                French and Germany have pioneered important subgenres in rock music, what has Japan done?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They make all their musical instruments

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Japan pretty much redefined progressive rock in the late 80s/90s by inventing brutal prog, math rock, mathcore, and shit, in an era where progressive rock largely fell off after a heavy decline in the 1980s.

                Nothing sounded like these at the time.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]

                japan didn't invent throwing your instruments down a flight of stairs

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope, Japan's 1990s contributions to the evolution of progressive rock is substantial, and spawned some of prog's crazier subgenres and styles.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Boss level music if I ever heard it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Made weebs into some of the most insufferable gays on this board to date tbh as evidenced by this very thread.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When will you stop coping?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Japan pretty much redefined progressive rock in the late 80s/90s by inventing brutal prog, math rock, mathcore, and shit, in an era where progressive rock largely fell off after a heavy decline in the 1980s.

                Nothing sounded like these at the time.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                J-rock, shibuya-kei, nerdcore techno, J-core, speedcore and picopop absolutely destroy whatever pretentious Eurotrash noodling you can come up with.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nerdcore techno, J-core, speedcore
                they literally took inspiration from happy hardcore and gabba, you trog

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And did it better, in typical Japanese fashion.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post some examples

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you don't have any examples then

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That wasn't a request.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But not pioneers, as

                >Why shouldn't Germany or France be held to the same standards of Japan and be called copycats?
                French and Germany have pioneered important subgenres in rock music, what has Japan done?

                said.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Using that logic Germany and France didn't pioneer anything since it's all derivative of rock music.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's being derivative and then there's being almost an exact copy in the case of J-core

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "J-core" doesn't sound all that different and all the artists are huge fans and importers of yuro stuff anyway. Shibuya-kei isn't that good outside of Cornelius and maybe some of pizzicato five

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like Fantastic Plastic Machine

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a good one too. I should give that another listen

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what has Japan done
                invented extreme metal

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chicago invented them, but the euros refined and perfected them

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Swedish songwriters run the American pop scene bucko

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's easy to claim you have invented everything when Western culture is basically an Anglo monopoly and the rest of the world doesn't get to share their products. Japan is pretty much the only non-Anglo country that has managed to find a significative international audience for their products, and even then we're mostly talking about anime, manga and video games. The rest of the world doesn't fucking exists.
        God knows how many innovations started in continental Europe and no one ever noticed because their culture doesn't have an international audience. Even people from other countries have been brainwashed into thinking that things made by Anglos are 'cooler'. After all, only your media and awards have an international audience, you fully control the narrative. And English being the lingua franca also benefits your interests a lot.

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Western videogame music is not mem-

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe back in the 90s and 00s, japan fell off hard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure if srs. Toby Fox is completely and utterly open about how all of music and game design comes from Japanese games. He's literally just ZUN who lives in America. Or lived because he's even living in Japan right now.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >utterly open about how all of music and game design comes from Japanese games
        Just like Japanese musicians are open about how their music comes from prog bands, european classical music etc

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Would be nice if modern western game composers started taking a feather from that cap too.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Just like Japanese musicians are open about how their music comes from prog bands, european classical music etc
          Still seems a bit more varied than Toby's influences tbhfam

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Toby Fox
        >Half-wit Earthbound romhacker becomes the king gay of 21st century vidya
        I hate this shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At this point Fox is just a Knight gay on the hierarchy of western gayry.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At this point Fox is just a Knight gay on the hierarchy of western gayry.

          Toby is literally the main driving force when it comes to political radicalization in Japanese games. Look at how many trannies work on Deltarune, look at how he self-inserts himself into both his own games and others media, and now look at how Pokemon has a "gender neutral" protagonist, the second he is hired to compose the soundtracks.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, Japan has fallen, time to go full Ganker and never come back.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, trannies would never allow a "e-boi fanservice" character like Iono in their games. You can already see them yapping about how they hate her voice (because they're jealous). I'm positive DR itself will eventually have a complete kino female schizo boss.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I remember last hearing he made some song for some famous nip vtuber
            That was pretty weird to hear about

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            fuck off batterschizo

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Genius idea for asking for western vg music OP

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats with the crab mentality of this board, its a non zero sum game and doesn't matter who does x better than whoever else

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's Ganker, if people here weren't having retarded meaningless arguments every minute, it would be a dead board.

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because when you know something is japanese you automatically multiply it's value 100 times in your brain, and if something is western you never give it an honest chance?

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >btfo every single japanese composers on the market
    >bb-b-bb-b-b-but he take inspiration from japan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Still a american composer still a western game.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dude's basically an honorary Japanese you moron. He even collabs with Japanese composers. If AAA western games had music like his we'd all be much happier.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>btfo every single japanese composers on the market
      eh.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally just list Touhou, which Toby himself completely gushes over.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not into touhou

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toby is a transnational man he identifies as japanese and there is nothing you can do about it chud

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name a better final boss music

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The entire soundtrack is a final boss theme?

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    American composers actually explained it last year. They said "it's a job" to them, which explains a lot.

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know this is an east vs west thread so there's reason for this post but

    Azure Arbitrator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One winged cuck angel

    have a nice day FF cucks

  82. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The west is too busy making real music lmao. japan hasn't had a good band since the fucking fishmans

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao what? modern western music is pretty much purely rap and hiphop these days with some pop. Rock and jazz are dead, even metal id dying and it's Japan that's still actually trying to keep them alive.
      I mean, maybe if you're a rap and hiphop fan.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have you tried actually going out of your way to find new rock and jazz bands? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D3TrpQ_nFo

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'll admit I'm a super casual when it comes to bands and don't go out of my way to look for nicher stuff. But that's the thing. While mainstream North American music has gotten to the point that most people here are saying Rock is a dead genre, Japanese rock bands are still thriving enough that even as someone who doesn't follow the scene at all I still know of some.
          I'll admit that European bands are still thriving from what I hear too.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Black Midi's just the latest flavor of the month RYM band, you'll find better stuff in the same genres if you look at the European avant-prog scene of the 70s/80s or the Japanese brutal-prog scene of the 80s/90s/2000s.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Being able to find breadcrumbs compared to what once was doesn't negate his statement. Rock absolutely has declined in the west compared to when it was the zeitgeist for decades, just like jazz has. You'll get a handful of rym-core darlings every now and then like black midi but it pales in comparison to the rock landscape before.
          Not that there's anything really wrong with that unless if you ONLY like rock and jazz, but sometimes you just get tired of diving through bandcamp releases.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The west is too busy making real music lmao.
      "Real" Japanese music runs circles around the West lol

  83. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CTRNF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9S6K4Tdyw
    Crash 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STHYI8sposM
    Sonic Mania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMwM6hLEyeY
    Ori and the Will of the Wisps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwrIvHe6Yvo
    Crusader Kings 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az3ZkClRnbk
    I like Nip music more as well due to the melodic way they use their music in vidya. But still their AAA stuff is moving to atmospheric stuff as well. And when you have to say
    >Well that game is too old that doesn't count
    >Well that game isn't AAA so that doesn't count
    When OP was a flat statement about western videogames not having any memorable music at all. If OP said
    >Recent western AAA have barely any memorable music, why?
    then people would most likely agreed and maybe OP could have found few good soundtracks as well. But gotta be contrarian goalpost moving little homosexual retard for the sake of it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based for posting the best NF track

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  84. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fucking hate Jeremy Soule, I don't understand how people like him. He makes a catchy intro song for the main menu and then delivers boring as fuck samey music for the rest of the soundtrack. The only thing he did that I liked was the Total Annihilation intro theme.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based
      Does ANYONE remembers the combat music from skyrim? You know those 3-5 tracks you will be listening for most of the game?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based
      Does ANYONE remembers the combat music from skyrim? You know those 3-5 tracks you will be listening for most of the game?

      A lot of western vidya composers seem to subscribe to the Hollywood thought process of "make the main theme memorable - then just make a bunch of loud noises for dramatic parts and soulless ambiance for the rest"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Elden Shit suffers the same problem kek.
        The vast majority you hear is some soothing EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHH and gibberish latin chants.
        It's so shit after Sekiro or Bloodborne, but that's what sells.

  85. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's this obssesion with shitting on the west?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shit thing needs to be shet on.
      just like how DMC got suddenly bad with V because it's the game that caters to the west

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >shit thing needs to be shet on.
        that why we are still getting shitty AAA games to this day, right?
        because it worked so well in the past

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is no obsession.

  86. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you know what?
    you know fucking what?
    this isn't even specific to music
    japanese vidya is just in everything more memorable than the trash the west is trying to sell as a video game.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's because you aren't playing the good western games

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stop that shit immediately. if i asked you to name some everyone would start shitting on you and your terrible taste. so let's not even get that far ok

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if i asked you to name some everyone would start shitting on you and your terrible taste.
          one man's trash is another man's treasure
          sorry that you can't enjoy bad videogames, anon

  87. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just enjoy both Japanese and Western vidya?
    Remember gays, its because of Atari, an American company, that vidya even exists. Both America and Japan worked hand in hand to create the industry as it is today and our favorite games and music, so please stop arguing over it, and just enjoy yourselves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i would if they still were making good games like back in the 5th gen era. games like Team Buddies don't exist anymore. instead they are out here ruining and defiling vidya as it is
      >everything needs to be an inflated open world game and drain out any gameplaytechnical interaction ever
      >massive obsession with story
      >monetization options out the fucking ass
      >games don't even run well on day one
      >gameplay is the most shallow thing imaginable and leaves no room for interesting interaction
      >games are clearly not made with replayability in mind
      >last good western game was over a decade ago
      the west just can't make vidya, should take the L and leave into making movies and tv shows. that's where they rather belong

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some western indies are pretty good.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some western indies are pretty good.

        The vidya seen in general has been dying out, but moreso in the west due to the different business models being employed into the workplace. It's no longer about talent, its about stories, about race, politics, etc. It's either an interactive movie or a game about depression, both of which are horrible to play and have no merit on the real world.
        I don't play any modern games, Japan or America. They just don't interest me. The last mainstream game I played was Doom Eternal, which was fun if a little jaded in some sections, and the last American indie was fucking Deltarune, which was just bad. I think the business model is fucking everything up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          western vidya is visually on a downward spiral. there aren't even much of their releases that spawn a massive conversation booms unless it's about some stupid controversy or a business practice nobody likes.
          qualitywise they are missing the mark since, what, the ps2 era?
          they are more creative with stealing more money from you than with actual game design.
          and not to mention that many of them have to be acquired by bigger companies to justify their existence. it started even back then with folks like Westwood and went all the way to Activision Blizzard that could in no way, shape or form live if it wasn't for a massive image rebranding with microsoft.
          and as a final nail in the coffin, if you take anything away from this post, the most important thing to note: their vidya became so incredibly irrelevant and replacable that they started to bundle them into subscription models like the XBox game pass because nobody is going to give a shit about them any other way. these things became used goods, mass-productions instead of an enrichment for your life.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i have the same amount of vendetta for western vidya
        if you actually return to the 5th gen and see what they used to make on a daily basis (with team buddies being a perfect example) you'll realize real quick how those games are MUCH closer to an actual interactive media than what they do today.
        if it's for triple a games they are just mixing whatever is popular into an open world and call it a day
        if it's for indie they are goosechasing nostalgia and replicating things in worse
        it's as if these people completely forgot what gameplay is. what video games are supposed to be the begin with. if you boot up any game from the PSOne era you could guarantee yourself a completely new concept you haven't seen yet before.
        these days everything runs on industry standards or cookie cutter formulas to play it save. that is if it isn't a massive bugfest

  88. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Hotline Miami
    > Disco Elysium
    > DOOM2016
    > Undertale
    > Stellaris
    > Icewind Dale
    > Fallout 2
    > Halo
    I think you guys are full of shit. Western soundtracks can be and often are pretty good. I love me some jap OSTs (hearing SMT IV OST on Ganker made me play the game) but west can do these too.

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  91. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crash Bandicoot has good soundtrack and it is a western game.

    Crash Bandicoot 2

  92. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dovahkiin
    It's already starting playing in your head.
    Go be gay somewhere else.

  93. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this wasn't posted immediately, let alone a quarter in the thread
    It better have been posted eventually, carries western vidya music almost singlehandedly and you already know what I'm talking about

    I'll stop myself from just posting the entire OST now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Someone doesn’t play indie games

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm glad at least someone did it eventually but really it should be the first and last word spoken.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I only really liked the last song. The rest is slow and has little to no melody. I think other western games pulled this electronic style better.

  94. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    omg plagurizm :^O

    ?t=136

  95. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are plenty of duds in random ass Japanese games I've played. Like everything, you'd only remember the notably shit or notably good ones.
    That being said Elden Ring's music is some of the most unmemorable garbage I've ever heard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yea but then there are games like Onimusha Dawn of Dreams, Ridge Racer Type 4 and Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII which have absolutely 0 alternatives. These 3 games have soundtracks that simply don't resemble anything else ever.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Onimusha Dawn of Dreams
        I cannot believe a soundtrack this good exists. It's a shame Capcom shelved the series.

  96. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw Gears of War was basically my only source of military brass music
    >the newer GoW is super shit in everything

    Much like Gigastacey anon's lamentations about none existing in games other than gacha, I'm forced to live in despair that I'll never get new military brass music in any game.

  97. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you know I thought this was gonna be a thread about my waifu lamu-san and her new and old shows

  98. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?t=147
    Why did ZUN do this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically a banger and I love MoF stage 4 too

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Keep them coming. I've seen some of these "Touhou similarity" videos but a lot of them are stretches. The two listed here are really on point though.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ?t=2369
          This one feels like either an homage or unintentional plagiarism since ZUN is a pretty big Keiko Matsui fan

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For comparison

            ?t=98

  99. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Music is often entangled with certain cultural concepts but more importantly memories. The "circus" theme we hear was a triumphant march theme but now it is considered a silly song due to the association.
    If you are playing a shitty game, it will drag the experience of hearing the music with it. The imprint of that shitty game will stick to that soundtrack like a jar of hot glue sealed in cum.
    If you heard a bad song during a good game it could invoke a sense of nostalgia, regardless of how ill-composed it is.
    And that is also perhaps why many people enjoy popular music too. It rings hollow to many "nerds" because of a lack of experiences to attach it to, nothing more than background noise.
    So simply put, you do not have memories of western media to that attach itself to the music, or at least ones you enjoyed. And that's fine.

  100. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    O RLY?

  101. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japs can't into atmosphere
    Westerners just go mental on some bongos and create some of the best catacomb music of all time

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, japs do atmosphere shit all the time. It just sucks there too.

  102. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the modern era even Chinese games manage to have better soundtracks than most non-indie western games.

  103. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Destiny sucks cock, but these 2 tracks alone dab on any and all japanese music

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >generic orchestra
      >somehow dabbing on anything
      Those tracks gets outclassed by one of the few good themes in souls

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Few good themes in Souls
        Ironically enough, the Bloodborne OST (which I'd say is the best of the series) is the one where western composers played a large part.

  104. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Western videogame music
    Mostly generic orchestral shit
    >Japanese videogame music
    Mostly generic orchestral shit

  105. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  106. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dumb lumposter

  107. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP reeks of woman
    Urusei yatsura is garbage

  108. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anime gay

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anime website, cope.

  109. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can I play kirby games on PC?

  110. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play actually good western games then

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8iZA9gTvV8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtBdMr-HUpI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m4DUlijw70
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIy_Y_aqhuI

  111. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love Japan but holy shit do I despise you weaboos. Stupid cocksuckers.

  112. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know how you could say this when the lines of Jeromy Soule exists. Hell, hotline miami? Tony Hawks?

  113. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    westoids are easily impressed by generic orchestral tracks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice projection lel
      Say "generic orchestral tracks" to most people and the first thing that'll come to mind is Final Fantasy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and the first thing that'll come to mind is Final Fantasy
        squeenix games in general really, any given ost will probably have some good tracks but the rest is orchestralslop

  114. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >west bad
    >japan bad
    this is the truth. how anyone can still cling to japan is beyond me. hypocrites.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cling
      Respect is a better word. Why shouldn't I respect a country so inclined with their own identity.
      They are allowed and told to be patriotic, while my shit country spends all its time talking about how terrible we are.
      Did you know that Koichi Sugiyama is a war crime denier?
      That shit could get me locked up, but it's really not that uncommon over there.

  115. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people hate orchestral soundtracks so much?
    Why do you hate Art Music?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even if you are 20 years old, you have already reached a point where you have heard it all in terms of orchestral music.
      You will never be surprised by it anymore. It's just a done art.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Incredible, not sure if bait.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hey, if you want to link me some 20th century Russian composer that'll blow my mind go right ahead.

          Japan hasn't had a memorable soundtrack since the gamecube

          Now THIS is bait.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He ain't wrong.

            Because its generic amd forgetable most of the time, orcheatra music can be good but western devs dont put any effort into making it sound good
            Here is a comparison between a generic track

            And one that actually sounds good

            ehhh i think they both sound weak.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Japan hasn't had a memorable soundtrack since the gamecube

              >He ain't wrong.
              No matter what I post you will say it's shit but I'll indulge you

              ok

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liFwQ-SVyj0

              >Ace Combat
              Now THAT is unfair

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No matter what I post you will say it's shit
                None of those sound all that great rally, so you're not wrong.

                If anything it's ear aids.
                >.gif
                I hate unmoving gifs so fucking much

                >it's ear aids.
                yeah, even electronic tracks too now suffer from this a lot of the time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Incurable brain AIDS.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If anything it's ear aids.
          >.gif
          I hate unmoving gifs so fucking much

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's too bad, man.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH YOU DICK PLEASE I AM SCARED OUT OF MY MIND

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of the ones in vidya sound like shit these days regardless of country; always sounding like they're trying to jump on the modern hollywood or the animu train. In all fairness, I don't think current electronic/"midi" music's any better on this front either.

      Even if you are 20 years old, you have already reached a point where you have heard it all in terms of orchestral music.
      You will never be surprised by it anymore. It's just a done art.

      >you have already reached a point where you have heard it all
      I feel that way in terms of rpg music at this point; orchestral or electronic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because its generic amd forgetable most of the time, orcheatra music can be good but western devs dont put any effort into making it sound good
      Here is a comparison between a generic track

      And one that actually sounds good

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but western devs dont put any effort into making it sound good
        >western devs
        >western
        Point out this mythical good Japanese orchestral soundtracks.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ok

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon you dindnt have to murder him like that

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That was easy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not very good.

            >singlehandedly mogs westshit

            It's Sugiyama so I ain't surprised. That said, I think a lot of his vidya work is still slightly lesser in comparison to his old animu works.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >singlehandedly mogs westshit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because its generic amd forgetable most of the time, orcheatra music can be good but western devs dont put any effort into making it sound good
      Here is a comparison between a generic track

      And one that actually sounds good

      >but western devs dont put any effort into making it sound good
      >western devs
      >western
      Point out this mythical good Japanese orchestral soundtracks.

      Stand back.

      I know these aren't true orchestral songs. But I've never liked pure orchestral music. These are the songs that resonate with me. They're like a fusion of electronic and orchestra and rock

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Compositionally I find them mostly unimpressive. I hate that I even have to say this about fucking megman.

        That said, I can like things in that "fake orchestral" style:

        ?t=173

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think I know what you're going for. But the way those Japanese lads are yelling is comical. Hard to take them seriously. It's interesting though.

          I think I got what you're looking for right here: And you would never have guessed it.

          (Kind of cheating because it's a cover. But she sticks to the composition of the original. So it's the same song just without the N64 midi sound.)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But the way those Japanese lads are yelling is comical. Hard to take them seriously.
            I agree, though I still like the composition enough that I can let the cheesiness of the vocals slide through in this instance.

            >Quest 64
            I think Masamichi Amano's a pretty neat composer. so I'll agree with you on that one.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Masamichi Amano
              I'm surprised you know the guy's name.
              I was just now trying to find some deep orchestral song you never heard of. But I'm coming up with nothing.
              But check out these songs anyway, because they're nice.

  116. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan hasn't had a memorable soundtrack since the gamecube

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah lets just forget that metal gear rising exists

  117. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whats up with orchestral hate but moron rap obsession? Not that anyone here is doing it, but people pretend orchestral is played out and done but start crying and clapping their hands when a moron uses a double entendre and a rhyme at the same time

  118. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker why does midi soundtracks sound better than the orchestral rearranged versions? Am I deaf? Something like Dragon Quest is an example

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ganker why does midi soundtracks sound better than the orchestral rearranged version
      ehhh, really depends. I think a lot of them tend to sound pretty cheap most of the time and ruin otherwise decent compositions.

      ok

      Why does everything sound like its trying to ape Zimmer these days?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did someone say "non-snoozer-esque" orchestral track?

  119. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  120. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japs are more prone to make bold creative decisions. Westerners play it safe for maximum appeal.
    When japs fail, you don't hear about it. When Japs succeed, you can't escape the hype. Westerners occupy the forgettable but acceptable middle ground

  121. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese video game composers focus on melody, harmony and rhythm
    Western composers focus on texture, ambiance, and production.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Trying to sound smart: the post
      Nice try though

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not. it's just facts

  122. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always liked Japanese soundtracks because of the sheer variety of music you'd find in a single game.

    You could find yourself listening to a calm bossa nova track, to an intense power metal battle theme,, and then some silly Spaghetti western-esque track with woodwind instruments all within the span of 20 minutes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bossa nova
      Never got that. Nips are obsessed with Bossa Nova and dream pop. How the fuck did that happen?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bossa Nova kind of makes sense since it's Brazilian and apparently Brazil has the highest amount of Japanese people living in it outside of Japan.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Brazil has the highest amount of Japanese people living in it outside of Japan
          I need to read a fucking history book...

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >serani poji
        you a bro, anon

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Glad to be in the company of another

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I always liked Japanese soundtracks because of the sheer variety of music you'd find in a single game.
      Now I'd agree with this in theory, but it's a shame some tracks are clearly more interesting than others. That said, this is a constant thing with any type of soundtrack so I can't necessarily fault game composers alone.

  123. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Urusei Yatsura makes me emotional for some reason
    Something about it is beautiful and pure

  124. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is western and eastern vidya music and then there is Ace Combat music which has far surpassed both.

    ?t=174

    ?t=220

    ?t=192

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whoever composed this shit is trying too hard. its hard to explain it isnt good either like john williams composition while on speed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >more modern hollywood music

        have a nice day generic orchestra moron.

        I find it really bizarre, Ace Combat music's received nothing but praise on Ganker for nearly a decade and suddenly Ganker hates it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for over* a decade

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >more modern hollywood music

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >modern
        Ace Combat's had soundtracks like that for over 20 years.
        What are some Hollywood soundtracks that sound remotely like Ace Combat?

        have a nice day generic orchestra moron.

        >ace combat orchestra
        >generic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What are some Hollywood soundtracks that sound remotely like Ace Combat?
          Personally it sounds like it cribs a lot from Harry-Gregson Williams and Hans Zimmer from my ears. Not necessarily bad though, if you're into it.

          That said, I'll give you this:

          Have some prog metal then

          does slap, and I would be a hypocrite if I didn't stress that I don't care for a lot of non-hollywood styled game scores for similar reasons, even indie ones as evidenced by my thoughts about Undertale's music earlier. In the end though, if you like it you like it, and that's cool by me.

          >Masamichi Amano
          I'm surprised you know the guy's name.
          I was just now trying to find some deep orchestral song you never heard of. But I'm coming up with nothing.
          But check out these songs anyway, because they're nice.

          >I was just now trying to find some deep orchestral song you never heard of.
          It's fine. I don't really care for a lot of it myself outside of certain composers in certain eras, to be honest. Sorry for being a hard ass all through this thread.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Sorry for being a hard ass all through this thread.
            Don't apologize to me. I don't care. I just wanted to swap music.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I just wanted to swap music.
              Yeah me too. Thanks for understanding, anyways.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ace Combat 2 has some good hard rock tracks. Very of its time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have some prog metal then

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day generic orchestra moron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >generic
        Name ONE (1) (singular) (uno) vidya soundtrack that sounded like this before 2001

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I can't believe it, its raining asteroids!!!
          me when I'm taking a yuuuuge shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seems like a lot of orchestra music's I like's often:
        >old
        >involves some elements of fusion
        >outside vidya
        a lot of the time.

        What the fuck?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me it's Blockade

  125. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Revive dead show
    >It sucks
    Whoever's decision it was to make Araragi's VA the main character is a dumbass

  126. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On the contrary, there are plenty of great western vidya music:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QgdSiNaJt4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blG5kFTw-1A
    https://youtu.be/z9S-fFsljbA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mEy8hIrdM4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysb4B2c62Ok
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WWjwsCCOFM

  127. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meant to reply to

      There is western and eastern vidya music and then there is Ace Combat music which has far surpassed both.

      ?t=174

      ?t=220

      ?t=192

  128. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the best cover of Zero yet and dare say it has surpassed the original. No I'm not the guy who made it fuck you

  129. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw can't watch lum's show because Ataru is the dumbest motherfucker in fiction.

  130. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet you're saying shitty strings and guitars from anime shit is good music, and not talking about something like Okami.

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