What are the downside of PC gaming?

What are the downside of PC gaming?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    no game ownership, all games are buggy messes and require you to fix them (for free lol) and games run inexplicably terribly

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the constant need that you need to upgrade and FOMO

      Having way too many games to play.

      The b***hes keep wanting my dick but there's only so much of me to go around.

      Enjoy paying $80 for a new game when I play free games that are masterpieces like tf2 or lrd2 you goyim

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have had to fix one game in the past 10 years, and it took me like 5-10 minutes of googling the error code, finding and adjusting a settingm then rebooting. If you're going to criticize PC gaming at least have up to date talking points and don't assume everyone is playing a chromebook

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this post is a lie btw

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          meant for

          no game ownership, all games are buggy messes and require you to fix them (for free lol) and games run inexplicably terribly

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      as opposed to console gaming where you actually own your games, and no games are buggy right?
      LOL fricking moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is a no ownership cope.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        But a lot of console gamers actually do own their games lol

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Valve literally defends not being able to resell your digital copies of games as being the same as selling someone a used toaster

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >No game ownership
      Lol, lmao even. PC is the piracy master race, doesnt get more 'owned' than that.
      Meanwhile in console cuccland
      >say word
      >game stolen
      >diskless console kicked off internet permanently, bricking it
      >that'll be $699.99, plus tip

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        PC piracy is pedestrian and sucks wiener and your money is traded for rentals only.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >piracy is pedestrian
          I'd prefer all games get kickstarted, best alignment between dev & consumer interests, but piracy is 2nd best & I can support devs by 'renting' as you put it, or buying merch.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            v. teenage understanding of economics

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >"master race because piracy"
        >have to beg a fricking girl to crack every single game
        LOL

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Like I said, crowdfunding would be better. But I'll happily wait a few weeks for some leet hax0r to uncuck that shit before going to sony or MS and bending over. Or better yet, just not play AAA trash, day 1 crack on GoG/steam releases and the good ones get my $$.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Eventually software's like Windows will be specifically designed to lock out pirates, your time is coming Pajeet

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no game ownership
      piracy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        piracy doesn't matter, consoles have it too (and it's better there)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You need a low enough PS4 firmware to pirate and it only works on older games until a crack is out. And even then it's playing on a 2013 console.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >(and it's better there)
          lol how?
          mainstream consoles can directly install torrent clients or DDL and install straight from an executable, out of the box, non-jailbreaked?
          i don't think so.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >No game ownership
        Lol, lmao even. PC is the piracy master race, doesnt get more 'owned' than that.
        Meanwhile in console cuccland
        >say word
        >game stolen
        >diskless console kicked off internet permanently, bricking it
        >that'll be $699.99, plus tip

        This is a no ownership cope.

        >piracy is owning games
        The cuckery is coming full circle lmao. If you don't have your games physically in official releases you own nothing. Piracy is just bootleg.

        You need a low enough PS4 firmware to pirate and it only works on older games until a crack is out. And even then it's playing on a 2013 console.

        >Piracy
        >post gen 7
        What a moron.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >If you don't have your games physically in official releases you own nothing
          The goodest goyim.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nowhere in that post it says you have to pay more than $40 box for the game.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It does however say the kind of thing only a grade A goycattle would say.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >It does however

                [...]
                [...]
                >piracy is owning games
                The cuckery is coming full circle lmao. If you don't have your games physically in official releases you own nothing. Piracy is just bootleg.

                [...]
                >Piracy
                >post gen 7
                What a moron.

                >If you don't have your games physically in official releases you own nothing.
                Where does it say it? i can't find the words sentence "you have to buy them their game" in there.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The part where you believe true ownership™ only comes from DRM locked shekelstien approved copies.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That's you being a moron making assumptions out of ass. Try to be less homosexual about it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No that's your exact belief. Somehow a pirated version is not real™ because it wasn't approved by the publisher. The pirated version can only be better since it's the same game but without the DRM which means you can make as many copies as you want meaning you really do own it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                pirated copies don't matter. Piracy is not platform exclusive. You do not matter if you pirate.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Pirated copies are superior.

                >The pirated version can only be better since it's the same game
                It's not; you have games that were different because piracy. The only thing you own is the media where you put the game data into.

                >The only thing you own is the media where you put the game data into
                And the data itself to do whatever you want with if you pirate.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >And the data itself to do whatever you want with if you pirate.
                You didn't acquire the data through official means so no. You just paid the hdd like a good goy only.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You didn't acquire the data through official means so no
                You don't need to. In fact you're better off if you don't acquire it through ""official"" means.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >In fact you're better off if you don't acquire it through ""official"" means.
                Now you're getting it; it has nothing to do with being a good goy with your dev/Nvidia overlords.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                pirated copies are irrelevant. Now buy your t-shirt to support your dev lol

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Pirated copies are just non DRM-cucked versions. What is considered a "pirate copy" should be the default.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Pirated copies are just non DRM-cucked versions.
                Everything has DRM.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're wrong.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Says this using internet

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What kind of insane false equivalence are you going for?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn't internet is the biggest drm of all

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Piracy is irrelevant.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The pirated version can only be better since it's the same game
                It's not; you have games that were different because piracy. The only thing you own is the media where you put the game data into.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >If you don't have your games physically in official releases you own nothing.
          doesn't really apply for new games, considering most are just buying plastic and a digital code/license.
          And even a lot of older games, you still have to manually apply patches/fixes.
          So piracy in this case, is still better and more convenient.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn't really apply for new games, considering most are just buying plastic
            New games barely worth the attention. Piracy is only convenient and convenient isn't good by default.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >If you don't have your games physically in official releases you own nothing.
          Physical games are digital games with read-only access. And you can't really read that data except on machines certified by the corporation that scammed you. You can't copy and paste that data, you can't make a backup, the only thing you can do is put that piece of plastic in the DRM-certifying machine and play as long as the machine works, or as long as the media doesn't malfunction (now collectors are discovering that Switch cartridges only need 10 years before the memory starts to degrade).
          I bought Tomb Raider on GOG because I was too lazy to pirate it. I can do whatever I want with the data. I can email it to a friend if I want. I copied and pasted the game data onto a flash drive and now I have a working copy that I ran on a PS Classic through an open source port that I leave in my cabin in the middle of nowhere. Consolegays are so illiterate that they don't even understand that this sort of thing is possible when you actually have the data and can manipulate it, rather than relying on a read-only plastic object made to run only in a corporate controlled environment .

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You can't copy and paste that data, you can't make a backup, the only thing you can do is put that piece of plastic in the DRM-certifying machine and play as long as the machine works, or as long as the media doesn't malfunction (now collectors are discovering that Switch cartridges only need 10 years before the memory starts to degrade).
            Yes, you can. If you pirate anything past PS360 you're effectively the only one to blame.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >piracy
        Yeah I sure do love Fitgirl repacks that totally don't have any bitcoin miners in them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no game ownership
      Imagine not knowing how to copy and paste digital files

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        PC is normalgay now; cracks are a lost art by now.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no game ownership
      You realize they can still grab you by the balls with physical copies right? As in locking content essential to launching the game behind a day 1 update. There are games that don't do day 1 updates, but I'd wish you luck in finding them, moreso if they're mainstream and recent.
      >all games are buggy messes and require you to fix them (for free lol)
      One of the most prolific PC products released last year was a handheld Linux PC that primarily plays its games through Windows Emulation. Even if they were as bad as you describe I'd rather have less barriers to mess around with files on my devices, because leaving the games fate to the publishers gives Babylons Fall or Overwatch 1 situations. If taking 3 minutes out of your life to install a mod is hassle to you have some real filtration issues to sort out.
      >Games run inexplicably terribly
      Going by the OP, it's your own fault for buying an EA game WITH Denuvo in 2023. Stop buying from crappy companies.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >You realize they can still grab you by the balls with physical copies right?
        They can't. Entire post is just cope over this fact.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I wish but thanks to digitalgays physical is in its death row. From printing less units (with the only purpose of cucking tards with full price digital) to lowering the quality of the physical media they use for the releases, passing through with whole day 1 patches and beyond. Games are more than dead for the consumer with self-respect.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You should try reading the next sentence anon.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no game ownership
      you dont own games on console either.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's a lie.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This sounds like cope. My snes games only need a battery changed once in a while.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you lying?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the post that broke the PC chuds

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no game ownership
      No one owns any games. The only physical media you can own and will always be able to own are books.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the constant need that you need to upgrade and FOMO

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Having way too many games to play.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The b***hes keep wanting my dick but there's only so much of me to go around.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    no bloodborne

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    one day it works great and does exactly what you need. The next day something happened overnight and you now have to troubleshoot for an hour trying to find what went wrong.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I am a PC gamer and I would basically never buy a gaming PC if I couldn't also afford at least one current gen console (switch, ps4, xbox) in that order to compliment it

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    4k/60fps
    >going wide and slow instead of small and fast
    1440p/144fps master race

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There are no downsides to PC gaming compared to consoles as long as you aren't a brainlet. Maybe not having access to a few console exclusives but the number gets smaller every day, whether through official ports or emulation.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    if the top of the line graphics cards can't handle 4k native it might be a good indication that 4k isn't fricking market ready yet and shouldn't be pushed as some kind of standard

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you fricking moronic furry there is no game on the market that current cards shouldn't be able to handle at 4k 90fps
      the reality is that devs get worse and worse each year and rely on the raw power of moder hardware to fix their shit work
      ask yourself if graphical quality has increased proportionally to system requirements

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that's nice but you have to work with reality not should-be fantasy worlds and the reality is 4k is not consumer ready

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >using the "consumer ready" buzzwords unironically
          the "reality" is that as long as developers continue like this 4k will never be "consumer ready", ever
          system recs will continue to skyrocket (to sell new nvidia cards) while games will look 5% better and will never run at 4k

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Just get a better PC

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Pc is harder to optimize for. Square said it themselves and its part of the reason they took Sony's exclusivity deal for FFXVI.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >its part of the reason they took Sony's exclusivity deal for FFXVI.
          Wow, I hope their game flops then.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the problem lies not only in the poor optimization, but also that the games run at lower resolution than they appear on consoles

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        so if a next-gen console like ps5, is compared to a 2060s, and the game is running natively at resolutions lower than full hd, it is obvious that on pc when you want to play at a higher resolution, like 1440p or 4k, there will be problems
        those who complain that upscaling techniques, like dlss, fsr or xess are a bad thing, they should see that on consoles it is a common thing

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the same happens with dead space remake, the game runs natively at 936p in performance mode and 1296p in quality mode
          if next-gen consoles run at those low native resolutions, imagine how demanding it is for a gpu without using upscaling

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that or this game is badly made. I'm far away from 4k but I don't doubt it's possible to reach 60fps in other games.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >that or this game is badly made
        absolutely all games that are not cross-gen, will run at low resolutions on consoles, especially those that will run natively on UE5
        so I wouldn't entirely blame them for being poorly made, when they will be made from the ground up in a demanding way
        what this anon says is also right

        if the top of the line graphics cards can't handle 4k native it might be a good indication that 4k isn't fricking market ready yet and shouldn't be pushed as some kind of standard

        from 720p we went to 1080p and then we jumped to 2160p (4K) when the logical step would have been to advance to 1440p and then to 4K

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          yeah I mean the real answer is "it's complicated" but this conversation is really just picking at parts.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care. My 3060 can run the original at 120fps at 1440p

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    To much freedom. Sometimes someone opens a settings menu and see's words like vsync and anti-aliasing then immediately shit and piss there pants.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    how do I change audio automatically when switching from my monitor to my tv via HDMI? I always have to manually switch it and it's annoying.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you using HDMI for both your monitor and tv or DP and HDMI

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        DP from monitor to video card
        HDMI from tv to video card

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Certain games can be a process to set up at first, especially if you have a nonstandard setup like an ultrawide screen or a non-xinput controller.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >4k
    >ultra settings
    two memes in a row
    who the frick needs to play at 4k resolution with 8k shadows and 4k textures?
    I'll take 1440p high settings at 144hz instead

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Raytracing is literally a nvidia scam to sell people with 95 IQ's 2000$ GPUs every 2 years

    There is no logical or technical reason why fake lighting needs to be removed from every game for "real" lighting.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You dumbass, they're future proofing the game. You're supposed to buy a $1200 card next year that's the size of your current PC case and uses up 300 more watts to linearly scale up graphics capability and then you'll have 60fps.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The incessant whining of your lessers.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >scaling

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    incompetent devs

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's intentional. You need to understand that rich people work together to get richer and screw poor people over. They know that 8k is so stupid that no one will buy it so they're milking 4k as much as possible. Notice the lack of 4k ultrawides above 60hz.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i get 120fps at 16k seethe cope

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A console and a few games is fine for most people
    >but if I get a $3000 pc and pirate like 80+ games, I'm basically getting the thing for free?
    Why the frick do you guys think like this? Just get a handful of games, used or new if you really want them immediately. There's this weird obsession with needing 500 fricking games on pc. Even the people who buy games on steam literally have half of their entire library unplayed

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wasting a computer to play videogames on a glorfied typewriter and laser pointer. Think it carefully because on top of that you'll be dealing with Windows post 7 fricking you over and 60fps -1 can really make a game unplayable in there.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The consoles probably wouln't break the 15 FPS barrier in this situation.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What are the downside of PC gaming?
    devs do the opposite of optimization to make you not only give more money to their partners, they want to take up real estate on your hard drive so you have to just play their game since you have no room for anything else

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >4k

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS5 runs this game at 936p without raytrace to reach 60 FPS, so, if you have PC that can actually do 1080p/60, you're better than the PS5

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The PS5 is also 500 dollars

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Everything really. It gets more expensive to maintain framerates every year and you get a less stable and buggier experience for your trouble.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    4K PC Gaming is a fricking meme unless you're literally playing a giant screen tv.

    1440p is the sweet spot for desktop monitors and you're better off maximizing higher refresh rates.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Max settings in PC games is just for taking screenshots.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You have to deal with console owners constantly telling you how bad it is. It tastes pretty good when you don't have a b***h telling you it's nasty.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You've always got some little niglet posting garbage like this to rustle people up.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That it ended circa 2006.
    I am playing through the Tex Murphy games right now.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >PC can't do 4k 60 ultra
    >Consoles can't even do 4k 30 ultra
    Hah! Consoles win!

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically disable raytracing and you'll get 30 frames back. Its such a shitty feature until, unless they optimize it its not even worth enabling.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just built my PC white boys I don't play consoles anymore

    What should I download?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Give it back, DeShawn.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    depending on you.
    if you just want to game then
    entry cost of a pc is way more expensive for a comparable console experience.
    having to fiddle with settings or troubleshooting each new game to try and get the perfect fit for you,

    to me, pc gaming is not really worth it, I only ever need office and zoom and my 300 dollar laptop already does that.

    I built a pc recently for fighting games and ive been modding my games just because I can but once the honeymoon phase is over it just feels meh .

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What are the downside of PC gaming?
    moronic developers.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Huh? it's holding framerates above 60 here?

    Opening sequence there are dips into sub 60 but for the most part it's staying above 60 throughout the majority of the gameplay here. When you're actually in the ship it's in the 100s in fps

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is proof consolegays just lie their asses off all the time on here to try and score points.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >pcgay playing victim
      this is a new trick.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        not him but, I still don't see you guys admitting that your games don't run at native 4k

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >plural

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            not an argument

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >redditor saving face

              >the post that broke the PC chuds

              >mature playerbase
              >better controls
              >Skill ceiling
              >Older playerbase
              None of these are true in any way. PChads are now ancient history sadly.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        OP's image is a thing spammed by consolegays on here (probably sony Black folk). It's not the first time this thread has been made. And it's based off misconceptions of how this game runs. Throughout the majority of the time you're getting high framerate on an RTX 4090 with this game. Visually i would say the remake looks the part as well to add that kind of demand. The console versions are identical to pc high settings, except for the fact that the console versions run in a lower resolution in Quality Mode with ray tracing at 30FPS. So when you morons say there is a draw back, it's not true. You're playing the lesser version of the game. It doesn't look as good.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >It doesn't look as good.
          >PC gays only care about graphix
          Nice post and all but... is the game any good or a good remake even?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's a fine remake if you're ignoring the whole 'woke space' stuff i guess.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              So another maybe perfectly fine game some moron needed to shove needless shit into it fricking it over with the most moronic shit possible?

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Okay and how does it run/look on xbox or ps?

    Consoles aren’t magic anon.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      here anon

      the same happens with dead space remake, the game runs natively at 936p in performance mode and 1296p in quality mode
      if next-gen consoles run at those low native resolutions, imagine how demanding it is for a gpu without using upscaling

      they complain that a pc can't run the game at native 4k and over 60 fps, when their consoles don't even reach 1080p

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The PS5 can't run the game st 30fps 4k

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >AHH NO CONSOLES ARE HOLDING GAMING BACK
    >The most powerful GPU can't run a 2023 game
    PC trannies lost, AGAIN

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      moron

      Huh? it's holding framerates above 60 here?

      Opening sequence there are dips into sub 60 but for the most part it's staying above 60 throughout the majority of the gameplay here. When you're actually in the ship it's in the 100s in fps

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >AHH NO CONSOLES ARE HOLDING GAMING BACK
      Consolegaming has been holding everything back, the best example is making games like Crysis is not profitable in this day and age. Being ambitious with tech is too risky. Look at what happened with Kingdom Come Deliverance back during last gen. The developers downgraded the frick out of it for consoles. Compare the beta to the finished product, they did this because it would have never ran at acceptable framerates on xbox one and ps4

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey have you tried the latest Nintendo/Sony game?
    No I own a PC
    >You should totally try them
    Can't wait for the PC port/emulated version to get a 7

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what happens when you turn off motion blur, film grain and the 17 other useless settings?

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    These kinds of scenes are the most visually demanding stuff, and you're usually sitting above 60 when it happens on an RTX 4090 at 4k with everything maxed out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      looks and runs the same on my sexbox. what now, choom?

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know where the meme of physical = ownership comes from. Since 2007ish, games have been moved into licenses universally. PC is not the only platform that operates off of a license basis. They can literally revoke your ability to play games you're running off of disks.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Selling point of RTX cards is RTX
    >None of them, even the 4090, can manage RTX and keep stable frames
    So how many generations away are we from RTX actually being usable in games?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >So how many generations away are we from RTX actually being usable in games?
      Probably at least 4.

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We are now beholden to whatever garbage that Microsoft throws out for their OS. Followed by the CPU and motherboard changing their sockets thereby forcing you to buy both as opposed to a straightforward replacement of either one.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Companies punishing you for not being a pirate by putting denuvo on their games

    meanwhile pirates get denuvo-free games

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I remember a time, where games were made for PC. Where developers put time and effort into making it run smoothly even on shit boxes. Where they created an atmosphere that was dense and fitted the game. Where lighting was a tool for immersion. Where keyboard and mouse were the main control scheme. Where consoles were a secondary market and games were ported over from the PC version.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    lmao consoleBlack folk are pathetic, do any of you even bother to read the article? This shit was reposted in almost every site and in every single one of them they explain that literally, and i mean LITERALLY the game on dips to 50 FPS during the mot demanding scenes, that's right, the fricking ship explosions and all that? PC can handle that with maxed settings, gay-tracing and 4K, meanwhile consolows can't even run on medium past 1080p and 30fps, while i do agree that most of this is uselles and used by israelitevidia to sell cards it still holds up.

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