What are the worst examples of tonal whiplash in video games?

What are the worst examples of tonal whiplash in video games?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    FMAB had so much trash moments like this. Just compare the moment when Edward reveals the microphone to the priest in 2003 to how it is in Brotherhood

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Redpill me on why 10 years ago I was told Brotherhood was the best version and now the popular opinion is that its trash and 2003 is better
      Genuine question

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because 2003 anime was made before the source material was finished and diverged into a pants-on-head original ending with dymension travelling nazis (actual events, not a hyperbole).
        Brotherhood was a safe, by the numbers adaptation of the finished manga.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          03 influenced the direction the manga took which is why the second half feels like a completely different story.

          Redpill me on why 10 years ago I was told Brotherhood was the best version and now the popular opinion is that its trash and 2003 is better
          Genuine question

          Because the west is filled with morons that hold battle shonen in high regards and because there is this meme that the source material is infallible/Manga is always better.
          Because of anime production works, yeah a lot of bad decisions are made. However there are plenty of examples of anime that completely outshines its source materiel (I.E Golden Boy).

          People basically went back and considered 03 to be the more interesting take on the story, people back in the BH era were all about muh fantasy battle shonen shit and told you 03 was bad because the world had yet to be burn't out of isekai shit yet.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >03 influenced the direction the manga took which is why the second half feels like a completely different story.

            Get your wiener out of your mouth, the manga's ending was planned from the start, it's one of few manga actually like this

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Ending was planned from the start
              Muh Door does not mean that multiple elements of the story weren't changed to be lighter and less depressing as a response to the dark atmosphere of 03.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You pretending to not make shit up does not mean that you aren't spewing horseshit
                Provide a SINGLE mangaka comment backing you up and I'll believe you nigtard

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Contrarians do opinion 180s in different intervals, expect consistency from nothing but yourself

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Brotherhood followed the manga, which was still ending back then, while 2003 was a fanfic and had a bias against it because of that since we now finally had the "true vision", which means it's better. It also looked phenomenal, especially for 2009.
        Same thing goes for Hellsing.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        People cream themselves over a filler arc at the beginning of 03 that gets glossed over in brotherhood. Brotherhood assumes you know the source material

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Those "filler arcs" are character development and world building.
          Huges's death is really weak in Brotherhood cause he barely has any scenes before it. In 2003 he has so much more screen time.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Keeping Tucker alive was also a great decision. Brotherhood reminds you that his entire character arc in the manga is shock value and introducing the darker side of Alchemy and he's quickly forgotten about.

            03 kept his insanity around where it was needed and also kept him suffering.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Brotherhood follows the manga and has no filler, the original is a shitty version from back when they just made up shit cuz the manga was still being made, its nostalgic if you Saw it but honestly the original is fricking trash, watch Brotherhood or read the manga, both great, and after that watch the original anime if you want some different scenes
        and filler episodes

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's not, look at MAL scores

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Like most shonen, the best parts of the story are mostly in the beginning
        2003 spent a lot of time animating and detailing those really well while FMAB just glosses over them because 2003 already covered it and they didn't want to just do the exact same thing but worse
        Also 2003's ending, as fanfictiony as it is, is way more interesting than 'muh power of friendship' 1v1 the plot canonically ends on

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The gate exchange was still unexpected and kino while also feeling logical.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Also 2003's ending, as fanfictiony as it is, is way more interesting than 'muh power of friendship' 1v1 the plot canonically ends on
          I generally like FMAB more because of how it uses its cast to pull off that friendship ending. Fairly often you see the friendship power boosting the main character(s) to deliver the final blow, but in FMAB they're simply there to cheer Ed on in a boxing match.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Brotherhood has a much more interesting ending than 03, partly helped by the fact that the ending of Brotherhood covers almost a third of the anime.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I hated how brotherhood handled the Homonculi and did not find Father particularly interesting.
          In 03 the Homoculi felt like a really cool way to describe the alchemical concept of a false human in a setting that establishes the futility of trying to create humans using alchemy.
          All of them were mistakes born of the characters attempting to perform human transmutation. They all had a personal link to these characters and it really upped the drama.

          Brotherhood instead makes them parasitic philosopher stones with portions of Father's human flaws. It's kind of weird and devalues them as characters.
          I thought the Envy V. Mustang fight was the cringiest thing as a result of this. When you've established inhuman characters that embodies a one dimensional human emotion, coming to to conclusion that they're ruled by it isn't profound.
          But they make a big fricking deal that Envy is envious.

          Father himself is kind of cool as a concept but at the same time lame. He's a "does what he does because its nature" villain once they establish that he's just Hohenheim's clone bound to a fragment of god that is trying to return to god but is misinterpreting this as trying to become god. It's an interesting concept but felt incomplete because they just gloss over it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i also liked how the philosophers stone stayed the relevant mcguffin in 03 all the way through. it was always about the stone, human transmutation and the link between the two and how their own efforts are ultimately flawed and contradictory to their ideals. in brotherhood the philosophers stones quickly get demoted to a generic poweup item.
            you have an intense fight against a villain and it seems like the hero us winning but he suddenly whips out a stone and goes even further beyond so the only thing the hero can do us pop a stone as well and go even further beyond as well. sad how they ruined the entire premise of the stones, i liked reading up on real life alchemy and the legend of the philosophers stone and how the entire show is basically revolving around that but they completely removed any aspect of that in brotherhood

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I loved how the stone was actually a big deal, like entire civilizations were used to make it.

              BH just kind of throws that to the side to go directly into the concept of turning yourself into a philosopher stone or some shit, which actually pretty damn weird when you think about it.

              I suppose the point was to make it appear as the next, more relevant step but it cheapens the concept in general. Like "oh yeah you can merge souls into a red stone, but like you actually just want to merge souls into yourself and give yourself a god body". It's very glossed over at that point.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >in brotherhood the philosophers stones quickly get demoted to a generic poweup item.
              By product of the story escalating the scale in which a philosopher stone's production could be done. So instead of killing dozens or tens of dozens of people in a small room you had the travesty that wiped out the country of Xerxes and the same would apply to Amestria. And since using the stone was a major conflict for both Ed and Alphonse and their ultimate goal shifted from just using a stone to finding a way to get their bodies back without it, it works that the stone doesn't wind up being the end all be all.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >muh power of friendship
          I still don’t know how an entire company of soliders and a bunch of alchemists opening fire on a guy until he finally runs out of juice is labeled as power of friendship.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because its not the popular opinion and you just spend way to much time on this contrarian shithole

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        2003-trannies still seething that Brotherhood is the definitive version instead of their fanfic soap opera.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Relax, Brotherhood's only redeeming elements is some of the OPs are good. It's a painfully stupid and contrived show to actually watch. FMA isn't really worth any attention.

          >I don't get why FMA was so popular it's shit,
          Did you not watch Brotherhood? Did you only watch the long/drawn out/inconsistent original anime adaptation?

          Brotherhood ruins a lot of characters, but it's far superior in storytelling than fricking Naruto.

          Incredibly low bar. It's literally a step above naruto, basically the same shit. Only thing is Naruto's fights are at least entertaining, even if they're moronic. FMAB's are awful.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Brotherhood is the best version. But the old show has its moments since it takes some scenes more seriously. That’s all there is to it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/GxldWIo.png

        What are the worst examples of tonal whiplash in video games?

        Honestly I'm glad this is becoming a shitpost magnet because I remember being so baffled that anyone could consider Brotherhood a masterpiece after this. Yeah the 03 version has a completely moronic ending but its direction is just leaps and bounds above anything Brotherhood ever did. I don't really know how someone who hasn't seen the original series takes the early parts of Brotherhood. It glosses over the material at a lightning pace because it's shit 03 already did accurately.

        All that being said, I'd probably recommend Brotherhood over 03 if only because it's a more consistent package that pays off the simple set ups. It's easier to sell to people over saying "Yeah it fricks up a ton but it's interesting" and both of them are gateway drugs.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >After this
          After what? A joke?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Brotherhood has tons of unfunny jokes that swoop in at awkward times. The OP one just happens to be the worst of them.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Manga is still the best

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          As someone who watched FMA:B only - it's fine, the only bad part of the early stuff is the very first episode.
          It does get way more enjoyable once they go to the snow city though.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        homosexuals at the time hailed brotherhood as the superior product simply because it actually adheres to the manga's storyline while 2003 wings it since the manga wasn't finished yet. Both of them have their strengths and weaknesses, but generally speaking I'd say that 2003 is better overall.

        One thing that Brotherhood fails at spectacularly is not only maintaining a consistent tone, but establishing an appropriate one in the first place. Compare Nina's death in 2003 to Brotherhood's. 2003 takes the time to establish a sibling-esque bond between Nina and the Elric brothers, then follow up with the eerie silence before Tucker reveals the fruits of his labor and the chimera speaks for the first time. Brotherhood's score lends more to the tone of a thriller than the harsh reality that something truly despicable just occurred.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nostalgia gays of course. The original had some great moments and great animation but the story was FILLED with the worst type of filler. And the ending was stupid as frick.
        Brotherhood kept to the manga and thus had no filler and was generally better, but it had some dumbshit too and instead of stupid ending, it had a cliched ending.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's just contrarians being moronic. Brotherhood is vastly superior to the fanfiction original.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The filler in 03 if off the charts, I'm certain most people who say it's better haven't watched it since release.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That chick was hot and I can never dislike a classic boobgrab.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer Brotherhood, but both are extremely flawed.

        FMA:
        pros:
        >emotional investment
        The writers put a lot of effort into smaller details that REALLY sucks you into caring for the characters. Every sad scene feels far sadder in the original FMA.
        >Doesnt feel TOO padded out.
        I dont mean filler, I mean a scene like "Freiza claiming the planet will blow up in 5minutes" doesnt happen. But what does happen instead is...

        cons:
        >Filler episodes
        You instead get filler episodes, which are nearly just as boring, and placed in terrible places. Some ppl quit watching before it gets to the good stuff (which is mostly content straight from the manga) and in other cases, almost mimic things that happen later, making those moments less impactful.
        >fake ending
        this is a double edge sword. but over all, the endings idea was kinda lame, but done well, despite being lame.

        FMAB
        pros
        >Far better story
        the best narrative ideas are here, and are more reasonable.
        >nearly no filler
        theres not really any filler episodes, but...

        cons
        >episodes drag on in the 2nd half
        due to waiting for the manga to finish, they had to just make scenes drag on. this kills your ability to finish the story outside of reading the manga
        >lack of emotional attachment
        my GF only saw FMAB, and never thought it was very emotional, nor ever got attached to the characters. I noticed this same pattern with many other people. I had a bias because i saw FMA 1st, and so i cared about the characters in FMAB, despite all the same scenes lacked the emotional punch the 1st had.

        Over all, I probably had it best, by having the emotional attachment, and then seeing the superior narrative from FMAB after.

        But if u care about character driven stories more, original will be better. if you care more about the overall narrative more, and or battle shounen, then FMAB.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tldr anime is shit, read the manga

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            lol pretty much suggested in that post i did
            > this kills your ability to finish the story outside of reading the manga
            thats what this implies. or what i was trying to imply

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        2003's ending was fricking sad

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The music alone sent 2003 version into the stratosphere. It made some severe missteps by turning alchemy into magic during the second half, but it has more consistent themes and tone in it's original material.

        Homunculi were handled better too (except for wrath)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >turning alchemy into magic
          what's the difference?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Alchemy exists in the real world.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Literally have a nice day schizoid.

        Brotherhood is better. 03gays are contrarian tards.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Read the manga, Black person.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Brotherhood has the better story but I think the original is better in some areas. Namely the darker tone, better animation, and the lack of cartoonish mental breakdowns the characters have every 5 minutes that totally don't exist to save animation budget.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        People who enjoyed Brotherhood moved on with their lives, obsessed contrarian troons spent 100% of their time in this shithole and scan all boards for any mention of FMA so they can immediately post about how superior '03 was. In actuality it's a handful of people at most. Just like you could've figured that a significant portion of Ganker loved FFXV and Tabata until people figured out it's literally one severely mentally ill homosexual spamming every FF thread 24/7.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/GxldWIo.png

      What are the worst examples of tonal whiplash in video games?

      Fricking based.
      Brotherhood is fricking embarassing.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I like them both
        I consider them complementary works
        original and brotherhood have different weakness and strengths

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Shut the frick up. The entire scene was butchered and its not even the same fight anymore. Had le random humor too on the fight. I understand brotherhood is an adaptation of the original but ffs I can't take it serious.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is a stupid comparison.
        Brotherhood rushes through the setup because they know everyone has already watched FMA and is just trying to get to the parts where FMA split off from the manga.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Everything ends up worse after they get past the split, what's the point of brotherhood?

          [...]
          Honestly I'm glad this is becoming a shitpost magnet because I remember being so baffled that anyone could consider Brotherhood a masterpiece after this. Yeah the 03 version has a completely moronic ending but its direction is just leaps and bounds above anything Brotherhood ever did. I don't really know how someone who hasn't seen the original series takes the early parts of Brotherhood. It glosses over the material at a lightning pace because it's shit 03 already did accurately.

          All that being said, I'd probably recommend Brotherhood over 03 if only because it's a more consistent package that pays off the simple set ups. It's easier to sell to people over saying "Yeah it fricks up a ton but it's interesting" and both of them are gateway drugs.

          I'd recommend neither, they are not worth watching and will leave you feeling cheated.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ironic that brotherhood gays will tell you to just not bother watching 03, isnt it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn't know, you can't really get the full experience with watching either by themselves.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't that girl get gang raped by soldiers?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Very heavily implied in the original anime but never happened in the manga or brotherhood.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they have nothing in common. fans of the manga like FMAB
      some others like the old anime because they grew up with it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The old anime because they grew up with it
        Or maybe because it does certain things better, like Homonculi.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I personally like how it forced Ed to throw away the "I'm never going to kill anyone" mentality. I hate when stories try and pull that shit. It always leads to ass pulls to get the villains out of the way.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If they like the manga why do they like brotherhood when it adds in shitty """"funny""""" moments that weren't in the manga?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          FMA 03 has the same "shitty" funny moments as well but at the same time it goes full edgelord so if anything it has the bigger whiplash

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >he posted it again

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i will never understand fans of this franchise

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The could've at least made different models, but no because Disney didn't want it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you should see the games in motion - american writers and VAs struggling to make sense of japanese script and motion capture performances, all really awkwardly paced with way too long pauses between every spoken line. all this on top of a being a crossover that doesn't really work, last entry just completely dropped all the Final Fantasy characters.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          or i should say a crossover that sounded fun on paper but Nomura is just using the franchise to sell his infantile early 00s emo saga, all the Disney and FF references are just barely there as window dressing. but without them it'd just be like TWEWY and noone'd give a frick.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Have you seen the gameplay of 1 and 2? It's pretty good.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'd imagine because it's because Kingdom Hearts is basically Deviantart Fanfic: The Game. It appeals heavily to homosexuals who like to mash their OCs together with tons of different franchises

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This. It still radiates early 2000's angsty teenager energy, and I'm a sucker for anything like that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The first one is pure kino. The series went to hell immediately after that because they tried to take themselves too seriously.
        At least you can "ignore" the story in 2 and just enjoy it for the peak ARPG gameplay. I seriously have no idea how anyone who's not a braindead consoomer could endure playing through 3.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Its hilarious and fun to play and you get to explore Disney worlds, what's not to get?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        god the first time i saw that was so goddamn funny

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        As a kid, you think it's genuinely the coolest shit you've ever seen because it's the movies and shit that you know but with badass anime people and fighting.

        As an adult you think it's fricking hilarious. KH3 sucked, but the scenes of Woody talking shit on the edgy anime big bad and Mike/Sully comically throwing him through a door made it something approaching worth it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because it unironically has some heart-touching moments.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      question for OP since I have not watched Fullmetal Alchemist.
      Do these scenes happen nearly right after one another? like within minutes of each other? If they don't, you don't understand what tonal whiplash means

      Real tonal whiplash is shit like this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They don't. The pic is a meme on Ganker, the autist posts it everywhere.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i will never understand fans of this franchise

      This is the funniest shit i've seen in a long while

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >You're banned from Disneyland for life.
      >WTF STARE INTO ONE DARKNESS EQUALS MONEY STOLEN HOW IS THIS ALLOWED?!?!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i will never understand fans of this franchise

      I genuinely don't understand why people have a problem with these two. The first one also is taken out of context.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kingdom Hearts is like if edgy Deviantart OCs got a game

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i will never understand fans of this franchise

      You kinda had to be there. Edgy shit like this was really popular in 00's, just like Final Fantasy was. KH is a product of it's time, sure it looks goofy now.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i will never understand fans of this franchise

      >You kinda had to be there. Edgy shit like this was really popular in 00's, just like Final Fantasy was. KH is a product of it's time, sure it looks goofy now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf I hate it now

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get why FMA was so popular it's shit, even worse than naruto

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I bet you watch Chainsaw Man and Demon Slayer

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't really watch anime much, and my Manga collection is pristine.
        GUNNM, Hokuto no Ken, Sōten no Ken, first 15 or so Berserk books, Vagabond, Kenshi, Kyo, etc...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      TLDR: It's not an accident. FMA is engineered to be very appealing to normies or people who don't like "weeb stuff".

      It doesn't have the typical anime trappings sans tehe overabundance of slapstick, which is often the only part that gets criticized. The visuals are good, the faces are more well-defined instead of being blobs and the backgrounds are detailed and a bit paintinglike, the setting is very western and also sort of nostalgic, there are no pantsu or really any "anime cringy" moments outside of aforementioned slapstick. This alone makes it stand out against the majority of shonen. Characters fit into certain archetypes but an effort was made to make them seem just a bit more than that, at least for the main cast.
      The world, while magical, tries to uphold a vague sense of realism, making the show seem more mature than it may be is, there's practically no filler and each single episode makes it a point to end on a cliffhanger that leads into something bigger, which is not something many shows do at all, basically turning each episode into its own mini-arc, which is made even more enticing considering the whole plot revolves around mysteries and conspiracies within conspiracies, making you want to watch more. It also doesn't overstay its welcome, making you feel like every part of the puzzle has been pre-planned, which is often not the case for manga at all.
      The story is a smogasbord of everything: a bit of mystery, some sad "mature" themes, some comedy, some atmosphere, some romance, some magic, some edge without being too edgy/gory, some groundedness and militarism, a bit of a fairy-tale vibe, some smaller, personal somber moments as well as grand sweeping stakes and moments of grand scope. It tries to be a bit of everything without being skewed into one single direction and does each thing competently enough. It basically has everything an average joe loves about media without the curveball of culture shock that usually comes with such titles.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Tldr: it has above average manga quality and balances all manganime tropes with an nteresting plot

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          FMA is probably the worst Manga in my collection

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Tell me you dont collect obscure shit and weird Osamu tezuka stuff or whatever, and just stick to normie shonens without telling me

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nice pasta

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's my own post I posted for the first time, but I did pre-write it on the occasion I see this fricking thread again asking the same question (last thread died before I could do that).
          So I guess it is technically a pasta.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is probably a pasta, but it's correct.

        A tl;dr version would be: it's a competent above average anime that does everything at least somewhat well which is why it's easy for it to find an audience.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Very good analysis, nice job. I agree on most of your points, and would also add that unlike most anime with a clearly OP character that does everything while others suck their dick, in FMA there isn't a single character that doesn't have their defining moment. Everybody contributes and that's also why the last boss fight is my favourite since it has everyone throw everything at the boss, even if it is kinda bullshit that a god loses to humans.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Edward literally does nothing at all and his only impressive display of alchemy is the incident that took his limbs and his brother's body

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Edward is constantly pushing the plot forward and forging the connections they need to win in the end, I wouldn't say that's nothing at all.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What? I don't even like FMAB that much but this is absolutely false.
            He consistently showcases his ability to do complex alchemy on the good, one example being when he's fighting against the two chimeras

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Aside from the silly ending fight, Edward's abilities are well balanced with his skills being showcased but still getting his ass kicked frequently.
              The worst thing about most shonen is the MC is either an overpowered moron the plot over relies relies on to zenkai boost the big bad (DBZ, OP) or it devolves into that (Naruto, AoT).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This. There's really no bullshit "power of friendship" or "samurai spirit allowed him to ascend", all characters have their own powers that they slowly build up on.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Friendship is the whole point though

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >but still getting his ass kicked frequently.
                This isn't really a problem for the same reason it's not a problem in the average Jackie Chan movie. The main character actually being vulnerable against specialists, having reasonable flaws such as automail failure, and going against people well above his weight class requiring teamwork and smart planning. These all allow for fights to remain interesting.

                Even knowing Edward has the ultimate plot armor there can still exist tension as losing is also not contingent on death.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How did you read any of that anons post as a negative? He was unironically praising Ed getting his ass kicked

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >How did you read any of that anons post as a negative?
                by just having woken up, realizing my mistake, and not giving a frick because I want to talk about Jackie Chan.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >DBZ
                >it takes a self-sacrifice and 5 minutes of charging to kill raditz
                >vegeta loses because a child bounced back an orb of death made of earth's energy
                >cell loses to said child because vegeta distracted him
                >buu dies to said orb of death
                The zenkai boosts are to keep up, they're rarely ever the deciding factor, it's just king piccolo and freeza that get btfo by this

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Silly ending fight
                There's nothing silly about it. Father was greatly worn down after the complete gangbang he experienced and Ed was running on adrenaline and anger about Al.
                It's not like he pulled of some crazy feat.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                One of my biggest gripes with shonen is how often the supporting cast get shafted so the MC can look cool. FMA genuinely surprised me with how competent and usefull literally everyone is, it'll always hold a special place for that alone honestly.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >new shonen comes out
                >interesting world building and lore
                >wide cast of characters each with their own personalities, back stories, and abilities
                >main character wins some and loses some but ultimately is on equal footing with others
                >as series goes on, power creep gets higher and higher as pre established rules and character development gets thrown out and falls to the wayside
                >non-MCs become more and more irrelevant until every fight is just people getting their ass beat waiting for the protag to come along and save the day
                >eventually it's just DBZ with 2 guys shooting lasers at each other while others cheer on
                every time

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Shit on MHA all you want honestly, a lot of it is deserved but I feel it's done a pretty good job of involving side-characters and their ties to the main plot instead of everything just focusing on Deku/OFA vs. AFO.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think KnY did an alright job with this except for completely dropping Zenitsu and Inosuke by the end.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Mahou sensei negima was another shounen manga that was fricking amazing for this reason.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A significant number of the students get shafted quickly and stay that way. You probably forgot that the twins even exist.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, they didn't get their pactios. You forgot we have a HUGE cast so it slowly introduces them.
                Now, Asakura could have gotten shafted, sure... but most are kept relevant.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, they didn't get their pactios. You forgot we have a HUGE cast so it slowly introduces them.
                Now, Asakura could have gotten shafted, sure... but most are kept relevant.

                It boggles me that negima is actually THE "it gets good later trust me bro" manga
                The 2nd half of the manga is so fricking goated it hurts
                UQ holder has some stellar parts as well

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                When I reread negima, I have a solid appreciation for the beginning. It starts off silly for 2 volumes but Evangeline is a small taste of what it could be. And kyoto ends VERY dark and started being goated.

                Frick, i wish it had a proper conclusion.
                I do think UQ holder had some amazing parts but I wish it was Negi.

                Was there an ending for UQ holder or was it bullshit again?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                UQ Holder got a proper ending yeah

                I think it's interesting because it's honest about not having a right answer to the problem of ialdabaoth, but decides that the right thing to is to keep moving forward and support those who may reach the right solution

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Considering how many Shonen completely shit the bed in their final arc that is an impressive achievement, how many can you name which have satisfying ending?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Demon Slayer
          Ass Class
          Fire Force

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >demon slayer
            surely you jest

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Your contrarianism is hollow anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                why do all the new shonen have crybaby MCs? my hero and demon slayer are the 2 biggest nu shit and both of them have homosexual crying pussy MCs.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >why do shows about children have childish moments?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ok now respond to my post. because the demon infested hated orphan you picked somehow cries way less than any modern show.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Because they're shows about children so having childish moments is expected. What do you have against crying anon? You're being a whiny b***h right now. You should identify with it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                childish moments arent the same as bawling your fricking eyes out anytime something happens. you know, like in my hero academia or demon slayer.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think manwhas are more your style then. Theres a ton of murim/fantasy manwha with interesting plots that have MCs that are more mature, or atleast for more mature audiences.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                its not about maturity, im not complaining that shonen isnt seinin. yu yu hakusho didnt have a crying pussy front and center. bleach didnt. full metal alchemist didnt. dragon ball didnt. hunter x hunter didnt. i guess one piece uses the snot running crying as a joke but luffy doesnt piss and moan and cry everytime something goes wrong.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                one piece probably. emotions, tragic flashbacks, screaming and crying. its cool now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >there are no pantsu or really any "anime cringy" moments outside of aforementioned slapstick.
        This is way more important than you give credit to

        I could show FMA to my mom and she woudn't be turned off, meanwhile One Piece or Naruto would make her just go away the moment the major cringe moments come up

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Especially the 2003 adaptation. There's a lot less immature, trope humor like in the OP and the darker tone is more captivating to an older audience

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Reminds me of the time I was watching part 5 jojos, the Talking Heads & Clash episode and my mom came downstairs. Pretty sure she thinks I'm a gay now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that's all well and good but after watching the original series and fricking loving how fastpaced this was in catching up to that i couldn't help being disappointed when it inevitably ground to a halt and took at least twice the episodes they woulda actually needed to tell the rest of it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I realize that a reason to why Ganker doesn't like anything is because they overanalize everything like an autist.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't "over"analysis, just the state of the show. Don't these thoughts naturally occur when you read or watch anything? You might be moronic then.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            normally people just think "huh this is good, i like it" or "this shit sucks", which is basically what you said but you wanted to sound like a smartass superior to other people

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        tl;dr: it's actually good

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This checks out 100% for me. I never got into anime, but I watched every episode of FMAB and remember it fondly.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What other anime shows pull that off?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Tl;dr.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How do you explain the fact that Naruto is way more popular among normies than FMA? It has all of the typical anime tropes, aka "weeb stuff".

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Normies watched it as kids and only remember the good parts.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Promotion through more popular kid-oriented means.
            It was on Cartoon Network while both FMAs were confined to Adult Swim

            No. I mean normies who never watched it as kids and then got into it as adults. I know too many arthoes who never watched anime before in their lives and then loved Naruto as adults when it came out on Netflix.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Promotion through more popular kid-oriented means.
          It was on Cartoon Network while both FMAs were confined to Adult Swim

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Higher highs hypewise. Far better aesthetic overall. Better girls.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This, but for KnY!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the frick is KnY

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Kimetsu no Yaiba, the FMA of the 2020's.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off back to your cont/a/inment board.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Never been on Ganker and been on Ganker for around 15 years. Keep seething.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's weird because every cliché that you've named that differentiate typical Anime from FMA are clichés that actually hold Anime back as an artistic medium.
        >Sameface blobs designed for the turboweebs/hikkis who don't like even a hint of western influence in their Anime.
        >TEEHEE PANTY SHOTS SO FRICKING FUNNY *FAP FAP FAP FAP*
        Personally, I don't see this as a cultural shock. It's true that Anime has very specific cultural thematics that will be confusing or even appear as immoral to the average non weeb westerner, but most of the Anime clichés are not specifically designed to pander to the average Japanese youth, they are specifically designed to attract weebs and hikkis.
        Every single fricking modern Isekai mass produced Anime that came out since SAO that isn't Overlord is a very obvious self-insert fantasy for the average asocial Japanese teen and 20-35 years old virgin hikki who may be requestionning their lives and see themselves as frickups. It's full of tasteless "in your face" fanservice, no threatening character archetypes, Japanese traditions for the sake of displaying Japanese traditions regardless of the context and aesthetical setting, sameface artstyles that make it easier for artists to shit out character designs by the dozens, main characters with artificial flaws who almost never lose or struggle and are almost always handed the wins on a silver platter and feelgood morals for losers who need cartoons to remind them that they are not a dissapointment.
        For a generic Anime, FMA does break the standart and I think this is all in its honor.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >boo hoo I don't like isekai
          Then don't watch it Black person there's plenty of other anime being made.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The problem with Isekai is that there is tons of potential, but the entire genre has been monopolized by studios who just adapt light novels for insecure teenagers so you only ever get the same mary sue bullshit again and again.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Isekai is designed for self insertion because it makes the MC more relatable for people you supposedly don't like. It has no more potential than a standard action/adventure shonenshit in a fantasy setting.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, overlord is an excellent isekai Anime because the motivations of the MC and world building is interesting and the world outside of the game being shit is also explored in detail and gives context for the escapism of the MC.

                That's in contrast with "30 YEARS OLD VRIGIN GETS TURNED INTO A LVL 1 SLIME, BUT BECOMES KING OF THE WORLD IN 15 MINUTES AND EVERYONE LOVES HIM!"
                That's just shit writing.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm convinced anime would've gone mainstream at least 20 years sooner if they dropped the pantsu coomer shit sooner. I don't think it's a coincidence that the second anime became hyper mainstream is the same exact time almost every show dumped it's braindead coomer bait. If MHA or Demon Slayer came out in 2005 everyone would be wearing velcro underwear that rides up their taint, screaming in front of an orange gradient background for 20 seconds, and every bad guy would speak like they have black lung and are trying to cough up a lougie. That shit's funny as a quick gag show but frick watching that for more than an hour. Fairy Tail was probably the last holdout of these garbage tropes and everyone that watches it admits it's gutter trash.

        How do you explain the fact that Naruto is way more popular among normies than FMA? It has all of the typical anime tropes, aka "weeb stuff".

        No idiotic coomer shit besides women having big breasts, which is far more acceptable than some kid wearing soaking wet cotton underwear that's 5 sizes too small.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >even worse than naruto
      no

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't get why FMA was so popular it's shit,
      Did you not watch Brotherhood? Did you only watch the long/drawn out/inconsistent original anime adaptation?

      Brotherhood ruins a lot of characters, but it's far superior in storytelling than fricking Naruto.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Commanders act all jolly in the game, war is hell

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, so as someone else said, just like real life.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      just like real life

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Very realistic depiction

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is how the USA tries to sell their MIC proxy wars now though.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This kek
      And then on the next cutscene we get the war bad! -message delivered by the same characters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget the sequels

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Never played those.

          But the optional side missions had also interesting developement, starting from "haha, this guy sure loves vegetables!" and at end they were "we must exterminate every single one of these cryptonazis to prevent the hecking not!Holocaust! Can't leave a single one alive!"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >literally a LGBTranime game
      I hate japan so much

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How the frick did you come out with that message?
        Rent free, I guess.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You do realise valkyria games have multiple gay characters and a mtf troony?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking how you moron? The only guy shit is a likable gay in it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          See

          You do realise valkyria games have multiple gay characters and a mtf troony?

          moron play the games

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    quick rundown? I dropped the firemen anime because I thought shit was fricking moronic and the characters were obnoxious except muscle gorilla cyclops

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What is there to run down? The animation goes from serious and somber to slapstick and back. Happens a lot in Trigun.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Quick rundown on what? FMA? What are you, 12?
      Thinking about it, kids born AFTER the second anime started would now be 14... Frick...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Op is autistic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >People messed with shit that lead the world catching on fire
      >Main villains trying their best to repeat it by controlling the government kinda and having a cult inact the final plans in regards to implanting kids to grow the right OP fire ability
      >Like, every superpowered being is just a different use of fire powers... or you just burst into flames as a demon that needs to be put down.
      >Demons happen so much that the Fire Force is a Religious group of fire users and priests sent to exorcize demons and put them out
      >Main character has enhanced speed and flame powers from his feet
      >His rival is an idiot knight who thinks he is King Arthur
      >Series progresses where MC can literally run so fast he can trigger the thing the villains want, Adolla Burst
      >Turns out it's to allow them to turn the earth into a new sun like the old sun did and create a new world
      >Old sun happened to be our Earth, shown as the comic turns into black and white photography of a fat japanese woman explaining things
      >MC changes the world concept to create the Grim Reaper
      >It'a Death from Soul Eater, King Arthur kids sword becomes the first living blade Excaliber
      >Story ends as the characters live in this new world and have to confront a new problem... Witches.

      Fire force is a bat shit insane Soul Eater prequel is basically the gist of it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        no way. i just finished watching both seasons the other day and was surprised at the moon turning into the soul eater moon. is it really going to turn into a soul eater prequel? thats hilarious

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I thought you took your >meds funny poster

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well at least you're not posting it on Ganker

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'll indulge your bait thread and say Xenoblade Chronicles 2

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Game has so little action it could have very well have been a visual novel
    >Even the characters acknowledge this
    >The video game was originally a visual novel

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Undertale
    Ace Attorney
    Metal Gear Salad
    Yakuza/Like a Dragon
    Some 3D Sonic games

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    iirc, there's a section at the start of Mother 3 where you follow your grandpa through some caves immediately after his daughter has died and he keeps farting and breaking the 4th wall. I assume it's intentional but idk.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Slayers NEXT is the pinnacle of the comedy-drama balance

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Oh frick I just remembered Gundam ZZ.
    Now that gave you whiplash.
    It gets better after Dublin is eradicated.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Gundam ZZ is a crime

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Those first episodes and 'that' arc aside, it grew on me.
        I would like to see another protagonist like Judau again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it gets better
      FRICKING WHEN
      I finally managed to slog through it watched while I was working at home office and it was absolute shit through and through. The characters are bipolar as frick, even fricking Haman is infatuated with Judeau like a schoolgirl bully, while Judeau is constantly flipping between warrior, kid and a moron character. Not to even mention the support cast, jesus fricking christ.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah its unfathomable dogshit, they even managed to make Bright completely fricking moronic. There's a reason the Zeta movies retcon that thing out of existence.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Gundam 00 is just as bad, season one just stuffed all that shit in the last two episodes

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I know FMA doesn't need a sequel, but if you were to make a new show that takes place after the original in the same universe, what would it be? Doesn't have to involve the same characters.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Show the rest of the world, no West/East

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If I remember the story correctly, only the West and East (Central/Xing specifically) should have alchemy/alkahestry, as its modern form was introduced by Father from beyond the gate and Hohenheim from Father. Xerxes did have some sort of Alchemy but was destroyed.
        Perhaps there are different forms of alchemy in other places that were discovered independently though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Spinoff where we see the child of alphose and his chinese e-girl go to china to learn the art of alcahestry or whatever it was called

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Show the rest of the world, no West/East

      If I remember the story correctly, only the West and East (Central/Xing specifically) should have alchemy/alkahestry, as its modern form was introduced by Father from beyond the gate and Hohenheim from Father. Xerxes did have some sort of Alchemy but was destroyed.
      Perhaps there are different forms of alchemy in other places that were discovered independently though.

      Show the new world, the in-universe version of "America", in which either it takes place before it gets discovered, with native americans/aztecs/incas doing cool shit with alchemy, or after the discovery of the new world, in which they are just being conquered and some alchemeists are stopping it or someshit because muh war bad or whatever.

      I mention this because despite seeming to be in late 19th centuary/early 20th centuary there is zero mention of an outside continent, island, or anything of that sort, despite at that time 90% of the world being explored already, that is assuming an America like landmass does exist far enough away from the main continents.
      It's not like it is that different from the real world, the FMA map looks like a panguea of some sorts but it still resembles Europe/Asia but without Africa, from the few shots of the map we've seen, unless FMA's earth is flat there could be some landmass in the other side of the world.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      First of all I'd drop the fullmetal moniker since it's no longer relevant

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Alternate world where Nina Tucker was actually taken in for study and found to have survived despite being offed, something about her allowed fast regeneration. She is essentially secretly test subjected to a more human state that can talk and reason like a normal girl despite being a 10 foot creepy dog girl built like a brickwall and equipped with super regeneration as she is allowed to work and solve a dangerous case while attempting to understand the world again despite having to hide her body and form to not scare others.

      She is paired with an aggressive and over protective handler that thinks she should be back in the lab and they are dealing with a great plague starting to cover the land as they try to find the source of it all and the main culprit spreading it.

  17. 1 year ago
    Ivyposter

    FMAB ruined the atmosphere and mood of the 2003. the ending is better but 2003 nailed the scary world of FMA way better

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      BH had a happy ending but I don't consider it better. The entire divergence with Father just wasn't that great, Dante just needed a bit of refinement and she would have been a decent villain.

      • 1 year ago
        Ivyposter

        >BH had a happy ending but I don't consider it better
        it's better by being not half-assed or incomplete like 2003's ending

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The metal Gear series, not one individual game but the series as a whole.

    Wouldn't have been so bad if not for Senator Armstrong.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Armstrong is from an arguably non canon game though

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I hate to tell it anon, but there is nothing to argue. MGR is canon

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    nanako dying in persona 4 and everyone being extremely sad about it for 5 minutes then immediately cheering up when they decide to go after the villain, was so strange

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Never understood the complaint here because most of the time they cut to a joke in fmab it was far enough from a serious moment.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    2003 > Brotherhood

    I enjoyed both though

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      2003 is good i consider it a interesting alternate timeline.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SnK is far worse

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i wonder if WIT could have salvaged the post timeskip stuff, mappa certainly failed (part 1 had a good opening though)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How can anyone save the last scene of the main character of the series being a gag scene about MC crying in fear of getting cucked?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          by changing the ending
          Isayama himself said he was disappointed with his ending and it wasn't how he wanted SnK to end

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >four years worth of pie
      Is that a refference to what i think it is?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      post timeskip AOT fricking sucks and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SnK's attempts at humor are absolutely atrocious in general. It's as if you forced an autistic edgelord to write comedy with a gun pointed at his head.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >AHAHAHAHAHAH SHE ATE THE PIE LMAO
      what was isayama high on when he wrote that

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You aren't on Ganker, anon. The only respected canon here is the /ourguys/ videogame adventure.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        game? also I forgot we were on Ganker how long till janny find out??

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Attack on Titan 2: Final Battle
          Don't bother playing the first one, second one does everything first does better.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SnK's attempts at humor are absolutely atrocious in general. It's as if you forced an autistic edgelord to write comedy with a gun pointed at his head.

      It's a simple joke, Connie is fricking moronic so he is not understanding the implications of meeting up with a titan shifter who tried to kill him the last time she was awake.
      That or its his method of coping with the fact that he has to ally with the one who killed so many of his friends without even having the right to ask for an apology for the people she murdered, because the world is in danger and shit.
      She looked cute there but I still hate her israeli looking nose, she sure is part Marleyan.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't like the scene, but I saw it as an obvious panic attack from Connie, not an attempt of a joke

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Autists don't understand people in stressful situations having manic humor

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this could have come off way better if connie was actually almost going insane at this scene and not just laughing at those few panels. Also itd need better dialogue

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Reiner got a beat up not much later for what he did, but Annie didn't get not even a shit thrown to her for what she did too?, she pretty much killed a good bunch from the survey corps, between them Levi squad. without mentioning the ones in the city

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget Magath had a wholesome self sacrifice scene after all he pulled too.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          somebody care about him? he just appeared and the story acts like you should care about him

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            He was the one turning Eldian boys into titan shifters to be shipped into Paradis to get the founder titan and destroy the island, so yeah you very much are supposed to hate the piece of shit. Alongside all of the Marley scum, I think Isayama forgot to make both sides compelling because literally nobody liked the non-Paradisian characters, but you're supposed to be liking their asses.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not video games, but one piece did this a lot which is why I hate it, that and the ugly art style.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tonal whiplash everytime
    >its part of its charm
    Yakuza really filters the normalgays for some reason ,still dont know why is not more popular in the west

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Que? It got popular in recent times solely BECAUSE of the tonal whiplash. y0 western release was sold on le epin chicken turkey nugget baka mitai dame dane disco dancing memes.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Outside of memes
        Do hoy think is gona last?

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It always blows me away when people can be put off from a show/game/whatever because of something as trivial as the characters making silly faces sometimes.
    It's like "Oh, I don't like that show, the main character wears red and I hate red".
    It's moronic.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rewrite > Ready Steady Go > Undo >>>>> Melissa

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Fullreddit Alchemist
    Go back

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6 have to be some of the worst cases of this in all of gaming. The way they switch randomly from lol so randum xd shit to overwrought melodrama and back again makes them feel like they were written by an autistic 8 year old.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >nu-age weebs don't even bother going back to shows like Death Note, FMA or Code Geass

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need greatness when you've got endless choice.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >implying Code Gayass is worth watching
      cringe

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the end is worth all the shitshow

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you weren't on Ganker for Code Geass Fridays in 2006, you don't belong here.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          JIBUN WOOOOO posting was peak Ganker for me

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      my nu-age weeb family member literally has posters of all those shows on their walls. Netflix has some positives guess.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The true benchmark is Haruhi anyway.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >literally you had to be there anime
          Lol no
          Also
          This shit was 10 years ahead of the curve if we are talking about having an impact in the industry

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Pink > Elf = Maid > Queen > Autist > Dragon > Cherry > bawd

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >flat shit first one
              HAHAHAHA

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Wasnt' this just generic violent flatchested tsundere bullshit?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >generic
              name 5

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Taiga
                Shana
                oreimo
                Steinsgate but that's scifi
                Rin from Fate
                Gangster girl? (Cheeto?)
                Mikoto (biribiri?)
                Nagi from that butler manga/anime

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I thought you meant shows centered on them and their b***hiness anon, there always gonna be tsunderes

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That's still 5 basically.
                Remove steinsgate and Rin.

                Taiga, Nagi are 100% taht.
                Oreimo/Cheeto I believe are

                Can't comment on Shana or Mikotoo.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >This shit was 10 years ahead of the curve
            Dont mind me just filtering every moron 🙂

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Never watched this cringe shit

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            haruhi uguuing at the camera isn't the point of the series.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              its the main reason anyone watched

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >shitty CGI monsters show up
          >never watch the next episode
          should i even bother?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Death Note, FMA and Code Gearss are couple decades younger than what I usually watch.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Code Geass
      Why do people think Code Geass is one of the best anime ever made?
      I can understand how someone could enjoy it (I did, at its expense), but it really isn't that good.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Basic plot about rebels ,vengence and ideals
        Thats it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          But the world-building feels vapid and was an episode were they chase down a cat really necessary?
          It feels like a first draft of a story, they knew what the ending will be and the premise but everything else was made up on the fly.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think anyone considers Code Geass one of the best anime ever made. It is, however, quite entertaining despite it flaws due to the over-the-top presentation and managed to land on its feet, in the end, which is enough for many to remember it fondly. With time, these memories earn it a certain shine of nostalgy and classic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You just had to be there.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's entertaining. I had some boring parts but it was likable. Just don't take it too seriously. I think people who hate it are weirder than people who LOVE it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It’s fun and zany. It’s constantly pulling some wild shit and everyone is so completely over the top it’s brilliant

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      New age weebs don't even like anime they solely watch it because its popular.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They don't like anime, they like popular shows, they basically never go back to watch old movies, series or anything

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Death note is garbage
      I could not watch more than 4 episodes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What about Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Today I will remind them

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I only watch ova's

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Death Note, FMA or Code Geass
      What the frick are you on about, these shows are entry level tier

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      code geass is actually fricking ass

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I never really liked these sections

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      most people cant enjoy stuff that just grim. besides the Russians of course.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I guess I'm a Russian at heart then, I also on-and-off wish Puck wasn't in Berserk. I do think Drifters is better with the tonal shifts, they're less jarring since they're more common.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Drifters is kino, second season when

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Never ever
            What I want to know is where's chapter 84, it's been like 1 and a half years already.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I wish Puck was never outside of his chibi form.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The TV series was better, even if it didn't have bigger graphics.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking hated Alphonse so much

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's okay to admit you just don't like cats.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The ending and third act or so of this show fell of so fricking hard. Introduces a million fricking worthless side characters. Those dumbass hur chimeras, but they look just like humans and can turn it on and off, so why do they act like it's some kind of fricking curse. I don't really know why I expected the homonculus fricks to be some kind of alternate world creatures or whatever, but no lol they're the "sins" pulled out of some fricking Dragon Quest monster, and eeeeveryone gets zombies monsters to fight while Ed kills God. Weakest shit ever. They shouldn't have gotten their fricking bodies back. They should have been stuck that way as a permanent mark that you can't frick with God, but no, lol 'You figured it out! That's the answer!' or whatever bullshit he says at the end. Fricking embarassing, I couldn't believe how bad it got

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ed still got a mech leg.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >They should have been stuck that way as a permanent mark that you can't frick with God
      Or you know, Edward could have completely lost the ability to use Alchemy making him 100% a normal person. He still is missing his leg so he'll always have that reminder. And Alphonse while back in his body has chosen to deal with the many victims of alchemy such as the Chimera soldiers who so far have no easy way to become normal humans like they desire.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >'You figured it out! That's the answer!' or whatever bullshit he says at the e
      That's exactly what he says, there's a good reason why fmab fans never talk about the details of their anime and simply fall back to MAL rankings and being a better adaptation than 2003.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Introduces a million fricking worthless side characters.
      To me FMA is one of the few series where almost no one was worthless in the end. Almost every named character in the cast plays a part in the finale with the whole coup at Central of some kind. Even the chimera’s from Briggs stuck around.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So what is some "mature" anime that is not a cringefest full of heckin anime girls with big breasts that scream "HENTAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII" every few seconds? I watched Code Geass, FMAB, Death note, steins gate, and AOT and liked them alot. Most anime really puts me off tho

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      stand alone complex

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Boku no Pico
      Glasslip
      Mayoiga
      Big Order
      Ex-Arm

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Monster, Megalo Box, Legend of the galactic heroes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you like talking heads and politics, watch LoGH. While the story has two very obvious Mary Sues, they are used pretty well and one dies.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Baccano
      It's obviously inspired by Ritchie and Tarantino

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lain, haibane renmei, texhnolyze.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anime in general is a flawed medium in my eyes. Just read manga instead, its so superior that I cant believe I used to watch most anime that was airing.
      Based on your picks though, the 2011 HxH anime is pretty awesome, and one of the only examples I can think of where its superior as an anime.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You can get some good voice acting and ost out of animation though

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      obligatory newbie posing as an oldgay recommendation

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Monster

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      boku no pico

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      stand alone complex

      Gonna second this one. Rewatched the first season and it holds up. So far 5 episodes into 2nd GIG and it equally is consistent.

      Anime in general is a flawed medium in my eyes. Just read manga instead, its so superior that I cant believe I used to watch most anime that was airing.
      Based on your picks though, the 2011 HxH anime is pretty awesome, and one of the only examples I can think of where its superior as an anime.

      I think it depends. if the anime in question is an adaptation I will always gravitate towards the source manga. There are a handful of adaptations I think stand close or equal to the source material like the first season of OPM and Baccano, but those are the exception to the rule. Anime's strength is the same as movies compared to graphic novels, the audio and visual feedback of seeing and hearing something in real time.

      If it is an anime original I have no problems with it.

      >2011 HxH anime
      Honestly ruined for me because of all the little changes made to the scale and scope of combat encounters. People might sing its praises but I remember people confused by how Kurapika survived the fight with Uvo and I watched it and realized they had both left out an explanation from the manga about Emperor Time, and massively inflated the destructive force of Uvo's Big Bang Impact to the point it left a baseball field crater in the ground instead of a person sized one. I didn't watch it entirely, and didn't care too, but it sounds to me it has all the usual issues an adaptation has with leaving out details and animators doing too much to make fights more "epic" along with some perceived issues with the narration during the CA arc that might have just worked better while reading it compared to hearing it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I dunno, the uvo fight with kurapika seemed pretty well explained to me. And theres exposition with Kurapika's teacher on how nen works, and how limiting its power to certain scenarios/rules makes it able to far exceed the normal limits of the nen type. Emperors time is also pretty obvious.
        Nen in general doesnt make a whole lot of sense. But I never once thought Kurapika btfoing Uvogin despite his inexperience was a cop out because of just how damning making his abilities only reach their true potential against the troupe is.
        >might have just worked better while reading it compared to hearing it.
        Nah I was already getting filtered by the HxH manga being more bubble than manga until our boy took another break. The way its done in CA is odd, but I dont think theres a better way to do it unless youre literally willing to read a book.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Nen in general doesnt make a whole lot of sense
          This is where I disagree because one of the main things I enjoy about HxH is how consistent it is with its various systems and the consistency of nen abilities. To the point that I've predicted some powers based on character personalities and also guessed mechanics to abilities that were previously shown but subsequently explained in greater detail. There are still some contrivances and plot holes, but overall it's a fairly crunchy soft magic system.

          >But I never once thought
          And that's fine, I'm not saying people on Ganker are the majority of people watching 2011. But even on other websites I would see questions about what happened in the anime and it seemed consistent with at least my one observed fight where there was some issue in presentation or lack of information that led to confusion. These are things I do not like in adaptations because it might be subtle or not a huge issue in isolation. But enough inconsistencies from the source material will become apparent to anime-onlies even if they don't realize the reason for the discrepancy.

          And while I think it is largely a meme, some people unironically did watch the CA arc at 1.5x speed because of the narration.

          >Nah I was already getting filtered by the HxH manga being more bubble than manga
          I really wish people would both stop over exaggerating how much more exposition and dialogue is in the current arc compared to others. As well as realizing that like it or not this is in service to an arc with a major element of information management and political intrigue. You wouldn't fault a mystery series for having lots of dialogue and details for readers to sift through as well as the characters. But similarly this is still a manga and Togashi isn't just hiding from drawing things by using word bubbles.

          That's what the years long hiatuses are for.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kaiji.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Serial Experiments Lain
      Cowboy bebop
      evagelion (2deep4u)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Spice & Wolf.
      It's focused on economics so you learn a thing or two but it's charming enough to keep you hooked all the time.
      If I tell you the protagonists manage to save a village with a recipe for cookies, you'll think it's stupid until you read the whole thing and realize just how amazing the plot is.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Spice & Wolf really caught me by surprise.
        At first you might think it's going to be your typical medieval fantasy with generic male MC catching attention of lewd supernatural female MC and shenanigans ensue.
        But the comfy atmosphere, interesting plots involving a traveling merchant plying his trade and wit in various situations, and the writing and dynamic between the two main characters really make it a great experience.
        It's wholesome without being overly cheese, and paced really well; expertly balancing tension and drama with light-hearted situations and banter.
        Probably not for everyone, but if you're looking for some good, comfy late-00s anime, you really can't go wrong.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And dont forget full family ending

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Are... are those Holo and Lawrence's kids?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pro tip: Don't watch anime
      watch anime movies instead, more production value, better animation, self contained narratives

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      prison school

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      All of the aforementioned and anime movies.
      Also:
      Casshern Sins (if you manage to drudge though it, it's the most "slow-burn" show I've ever seen)
      Akagi (Kaiji but Mahjong)
      Devilman Crybaby
      Hellsing 2001
      Gundam 00
      Gunbuster
      RahXephon
      Eureka 7 (it's still clearly teen-oriented though)
      Great Teacher Onizuka but there's some anime slapstick, it's still a comedy
      Initial D
      The Big O is anime-y but still cool

      Castlevania and Blood of Zeus

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ojamajo Doremi

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        suddenly a patrician

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you liked Steins Gate you probably like complete shit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      sonny boy might be my favorite show of all time, anime or otherwise

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Aside from the one you mentioned, animes without fanservices from the top of my head that i can suggest
      >Baccano
      >Psycho pass
      >Cowboy bebop
      >Evangelion

      But that's it... this post made me realize how many fricking animes I've seen with fanservice

      It's a piece of whatever's behind the door of truth (God). Since God = Knowledge, it's a small (but vast) piece of Knowledge itself, which was extracted from the gate.

      I know that, I was asking HOW it was created, what did they exchanged to create it? It's never stated in the manga as far as I remember

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        bebop

        Plenty of fanservice

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >FMA

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tonal whiplash
    lmao did your favorite streamer coin a new meme phrase that makes you feel like less of a midwit?

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There is no reason not to watch 2003 beginning and then continue with Brotherhood when it splits off.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this

      This is moronic, there are lot of plot points in Brotherhood which contradict the first 20 03 episodes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >There is no reason not to watch 2003
      There's a major reason not to: It's an awful adaptation that doesn't even stick to the source material.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    2003
    >WOAH...THAT RANDOM SIDE CHARACTER JUST GOT HECKIN MURDERED...SO DARK AND MATURE....
    Brotherhood
    >This random side characters who by all rights should be a generic dude designed to die joins one of the main parties, getting actual development and ends up as a gigabro
    See also Barry and Yoki

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Uhm ackshually, MY favored version does some things better, so it doesn't matter if it does more things wrong overall

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      nobody remembers anything about these characters and they're also inconsequential in brotherhood. Better off dead instead of pointlessly kept around.

      childish moments arent the same as bawling your fricking eyes out anytime something happens. you know, like in my hero academia or demon slayer.

      never watched mha, never happens in demon slayer so idk what you mean

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >never happens in demon slayer so idk what you mean
        so its lies then. that homosexual is even drawn like hes about to bust into tears ar any second. maybe youre just confused because youre comparing him to the gay blonde lightning kid who does cry more.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >so its lies then
          No I don't remember any crying, you don't have any examples at all? You're terribly prepared for this critique. You're not remotely good at this. Maybe watch and read the entire thing so you can actually argue your point instead of self-owning with every post.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >not funny
    nuweebs are a disgrace. FMAB has some really funny moments

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >FMAB has some really funny moments

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >about to cry from looking at his phone
        you just cant find a shot of this kid not about to piss himself.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          he's supposed to look embarassed, not sad, moron-kun

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            autists have such difficulty understanding human expression.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Gankercrossposters are ruining Ganker again by posting their god awful opinions about anime they didn't watch

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What did he mean by this?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I always wonder what drives people to do this ad nauseam days on end with seemingly no end in sight. Ganker has a really bad schizo of the same nature with any mere mention of a DOA thread that triggers the same image reply even though he got BTFO'd and publicly humiliated by a mod here. He has since doubled down on his moronation not learning to take a hint that he's wasting his time by backseat modding.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >BTFO'd and publicly humiliated by a mod here

        I guess I'll add this image since it's too good to not post since I brought up.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    thats only a problem with shows with male mcs

    stick to cute girl edgekino like wixoss, assault lily and genei o kakeru taiyou

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ZUN understood this.
      helps with suspension of disbelief
      women being unreasonable to downright insane is nothing new under the sun, but the fantastical fiction of videogames and manga gives them the agency to make interesting plot happen

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >there are nu-weebs right now that don't know about fapnote

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That manga fricked me up. I still dont really like how he ended up with the gyaru after all that. I feel like every loser in high school should read it because it shows just how dangerous escapism and delusions are.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Contradictory fricks now trying to act like Brotherhood wasn't great and 03 was amazing
    More and more I'm glad I don't browse Ganker anymore.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Was cool in every way except the mouth canon and the face. Just having a metal plat slapped over his damaged side would have worked.

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >dirty Ganker crossposters on our sacred ground

    MAKE US CLEAN AGAIN CLEANERMAN

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >funnyanon has breached containment
    send him back

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What are some garbage anime that you enjoyed?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >unironic troon anime

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I fricking hate how trannies just latch onto everything cute

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The moron's just saying that because it's a gender-bender anime

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What do you expect? Trooning out is the ultimate escapism. Instead of learning to be a man, you decide to stagnate and do nothing, and instead hide behind the fact that youre "actually a girl" since a nerdy girl is 100x more acceptable than a nerdy dude instead of improving any aspect of yourself.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I wasn't aware people actually enjoyed that shit. Probably the worst show I've ever watched fully. I regret it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      People are going to say some contrarian shit like "Cowboy Bebop" or "Evangelion", but for me Re:Zero and No Game No Life were fun trash.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Akikan
      I'll be amazed if anyone on Ganker remembers taht even.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Juuni Taisen. It became a contest of who can have their flashback first because once you do it's instant death.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Mirai Nikki

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Loved that manga the first time I read but I could never pick it up again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Toriko and C: Control

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        C's threads on Ganker were glorious, though. I actually enjoyed it but I could understand the gripes people have against it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Toriko
        I will never forgive Toei for ruining the anime.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I like the extra episodes they did, but they did the fights dirty and by that I mean clean and bloodless.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >garbage anime
      Does manga count? Despite everything I find Baki oddly captivating. I don't really like the art, I don't really care about fighting, I don't really care about the characters, yet I binge the frick out of it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Seto no Hanayome/My Bride is a Mermaid

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Killing Bites

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Tatami Galaxy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        absolutely fricking filtered

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nyaruko

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        RIP Miyu Matsuki

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Chainsaw Man on the top of my mind

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Tsugomomo, I have no idea how it's still serialized considering it's essentially just porn.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >considering it's essentially just porn.
        Simple, the editors make Yoshi censor out the actual dicks and pussy while the magazine allows nipples. Other than that it sells well enough I guess.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Tenchi Universe

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      most isekai
      there are some good ones, but most really are trash, and my bias of liking game mechanics in a world keeps me obsessed reading them. my only 2 complaints are the constant ecchi/harem elements, and the main character is always Lv999 at the start of chapter 2 or sooner. not to say those 2 things alone make a bad story, sometimes its good, but in most cases, its thrown in there w/o any real thought, and actually hurts the narrative.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Goblin Slayer, Kokoro Connect, Komi Can't Communicate, Godzilla Singular Point

      Actual good anime that is considered bad by the stupid masses:
      SSSS Gridman, SSSS Dynazenon, Aho Girl

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >SSSS Gridman
        i tried the 1st episode and ity looked super basic an uninteresting. struggled to get through it.
        asked others who liked it, if anything changes, and they all pretty much say its the same thing to the end, and if i didnt like it, quit.

        so ill ask you, what makes it worth watching? cuz i just dont see a reason to keep watching further.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Goblin Slayer, Kokoro Connect, Komi Can't Communicate, Godzilla Singular Point

          Actual good anime that is considered bad by the stupid masses:
          SSSS Gridman, SSSS Dynazenon, Aho Girl

          The reason I hate SSSS Gridman is it's a rip off of Big O, almost 1:1. They thought they were being clever with that shit too.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I never watched it but you mean this? It doesn't sound similar at all outside maybe parts of the setting. I'll have to give it a try if it's good, though

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >I never watched it but what do you mean.
              Going to pretty much spoil both shows but the main plot twist of big O is Paradigm City is a simulation being handled by a woman named Angel, either directly or through a program replica of her. This simulation is mainly fixating on creating a fantasy scenario where her love interest Rodger Smith, is obtainable where as her romantic rival is reduced to a cold emotionless machine who is supposed to fail, but doesn't.

              Obviously with how Big O's second season is handled not all of Angel's Simulation is really made clear, only that it was imperfect and people like Shwarzwald figured it out.

              In SSSS. Gridman, the setting is a bit different but the premise is the same In this plot, locale Otaku Akane is living within her own personal simulation but unlike Angel she is fully aware that she's "god". She has a pact with a cyber demon to basically use Kaijus to bully her own setting into creating outcomes she desires which causes internet ultra man to invade her fan fiction reality in attempt to save her poor OCs from endless abuse and to jail the cyber demon

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, I see, thanks, in that way they really seem similar. Though is mostly the ending, right? Not as much as the rest of the episodes

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Forgot to add there are other similarities
                While Dorothy might still be a robot in the true reality, it's also possible she isn't and the android element was Angel's personal feelings on the character. A means in which to make it harder for Rodger to fall for her which is highlighted by the repeated conversation about if "Dorothy were real would Rodger fall in love with her?"

                In SSSS Gridman Akane is designed to be the hottest girl in school with big booba, but still acts and behaves like an autistic shut in. The character Rikka on the other hand is important in the plot as Yuta, the main character, is the only boy who prefers Rikka over Akane. This is because Rikka is actually how Akane actually is physically in real life. Despite inserting herself as the perfect girl she still had enough ego to insert her true self in her fiction and in this fiction the boy she actually likes IRL prefers her true self compared to her ideal self .

                That might not be 1:1 but I found it kind of a similar concept, the difference being the fixation of wish fulfillment by both "gods" of their respective setting.

                Oh, I see, thanks, in that way they really seem similar. Though is mostly the ending, right? Not as much as the rest of the episodes

                With Big O it's pretty much at the ending though it was always hinted throughout since Sharzwald. In Gridman it happens about halfway through when the Kaiju e-girl says the infamous line There is no world beyond this city just like Sharzwald does.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's basically a monster of the week show with actual character development, a good mystery with a satisfying resolution, great fights inspired by Tokusatsu and overall a really enjoyable Saturday morning cartoon vibe. It might not be for everyone, but if something of that piques your interest, it's really really good. I found the sequel to be even better, though it had different strengths compared to Gridman.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            most of that is dependant. but the "mystery" part is the only thing that could maybe hook me, which i saw no real suggestion in the 1st episode. what is the mystery? (not the answer, but what is it asking the viewer?) if its interesting enough, ill watch it

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I think most of it it's introduced in episode 2.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Hai to Gensō no Grimgar

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Grimgar's light novel sadly never gets better either.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I hate that a top tier gril like Merry is stuck in that dump

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Soul Eater.
      It had the worst ending I've seen.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Souls Eater manga also ironically did the same shit FMA did by downplaying Asura as being evil because he's "Shikigami's fear" or some moronic shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Needless
      Its just fun

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Interspecies reviewers

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is the only time I'll ever admit it but Chibi Maruko-chan is actually kind of fun.
      I kind of feel bad calling it garbage but it is a literal children's series with very simple animation.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Monster Musume
      Good luck girl!
      Highschool of the dead

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ninja Slayer

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        YEARRT

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Akame Ga Kill. Helped that I watched it with a bunch of anons.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Stop posting this picture, I laugh everytime I see it, it's like a curse

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    YEARRT

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Scorn

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Would have said LISA but the tonal whiplash is one of the elements that made the game so damn good

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So why do so many animes fall for the same tired tropes. Are nips just doing it cause it's popular or do they genuinely think it's good writing?

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Freedom Planet 1 and 2. There is no specific part, the entire story feels like a preteen's edgy fanfic for a childrens cartoon.

    The gameplay is good though, and classic mode omits the story thankfully

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the one work that comes to mind which uses tonal whiplash really well is 3-gatsu no lion

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Brotherhood was fine, 03 delved way too deep into moronic edgelord territory. Reminder that Winry was supposed to be the one who got raped and impregnated in the 03 version instead of Rose but Arakawa herself stepped in and told them to frick off so they used a literal who character like Rose instead.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >raped and impregnated
      When did that fricking happen with Rose? I watched 03 years ago, don't remember that at all.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's one of the major plot points of 03. She was raped by some random soldier and had his kid. She becomes a central character in the later half of 03 because of this.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Understandable, I'd rape her too honestly.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      For real? First I’ve heard it was gonna be Winry. Who the frick wanted to write that?

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I only watched the first episode of FMA and got the impression that it had far more of those tonally clashing anime cliches

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    After all this years, I still don't understand how the little human in the flask was created to begin with.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's a piece of whatever's behind the door of truth (God). Since God = Knowledge, it's a small (but vast) piece of Knowledge itself, which was extracted from the gate.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Where is that stated in the manga? I don't recall that tbh
        Wasn't it just a homunculus made from hoenheim's blood?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They used the blood for whatever the experiment needed, but essentially what they did is extract the small piece of the black-eye void.
          Basically it's the whole new-age stuff with Oneness and Duality, where One was split from itself and became ignorant, trying to return and suprass God, which made the ending ironic.
          I don't think all of it is stated directly, but all the clues are obvious enough, and the Homunculus does say that he "doesn't want to go back" in the ending, and does possess vast knowledge right from birth, which is accidentally what happens to anyone who sees the gate: they get a shitload of information drilled into them.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So if the black tentacle thing behind the gate is god, what's the white humanoid in front of it? Some kind of test?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It's Truth (also possibly God). It's basically the "negative twin" of whoever sees it, it's conscious and conscioussness. I guess you could say it's humankind's collective mind, which is why it speaks in many voices as well.
              Whether it's related to the entity beyond the gate (which Father also calls God), is a separate entity altogether, or they are both the same thing is never clearly stated.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Man the deeper themes of FMA really get overlooked, i gotta give it a reread

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's a god particle bound in Van Ho's blood. It has divine knowledge but human perception. It's goal according to Truth was to return to god, but because it was human it interpreted this as becoming god.

      Aside from the one you mentioned, animes without fanservices from the top of my head that i can suggest
      >Baccano
      >Psycho pass
      >Cowboy bebop
      >Evangelion

      But that's it... this post made me realize how many fricking animes I've seen with fanservice

      [...]
      I know that, I was asking HOW it was created, what did they exchanged to create it? It's never stated in the manga as far as I remember

      Major plot hole. Somehow the alchemists of old managed to create it.

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw black clover turned into a better story than fma ever wa
    what is this timeline

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >LEMONADE

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >lain is mature
    is it? I feel like lain did nothing for me, honestly it felt like a bunch of obtuse shit, when I rewatched it and kind of put the dots together and started to read up more on how other people interpreted it, it felt like it didn't really amount to much.
    The only thing I feel like I really loved about it was the atmosphere and tone it had

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lain is pretty much S.T.A.L.K.E.R Except instead of a zone around Chernobyl it's a 14 year old girl.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know about maturity, but Lain *is* its atmosphere and tone. Lain is a coming-of-age story of a child in the Internet age, being exposed to a wide new world that your parents don't fully understand both in the outside world and through a monitor in the comfort of your own room all the while you're dealing with the usual existential questions of adolescence. And it was made in the late 90s, which leads to plenty of people calling it "ahead of its time".

      At least, that's how the anime is. The Lain game is an alternate story that goes in a different direction exploring the minds of a young adult psychiatrist deeply dissatisfied with her life, and that of Lain, her patient.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The anime made predictions about how the internet would cause hyper-socialization and cause people to lose touch with reality.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >stealth Ganker thread
      Nice. For me, it's FLCL. Nothing else I've found that's bursting with as much soul and breakneck action (yeah, saw Abenobashi). Shame about Progressive but Alternative was alright. I want to belive in Shoegaze and Grunge but I remain skeptic.

      I don't know about maturity, but Lain *is* its atmosphere and tone. Lain is a coming-of-age story of a child in the Internet age, being exposed to a wide new world that your parents don't fully understand both in the outside world and through a monitor in the comfort of your own room all the while you're dealing with the usual existential questions of adolescence. And it was made in the late 90s, which leads to plenty of people calling it "ahead of its time".

      At least, that's how the anime is. The Lain game is an alternate story that goes in a different direction exploring the minds of a young adult psychiatrist deeply dissatisfied with her life, and that of Lain, her patient.

      Feel like it's time for a rewatch, Lain deserves better.

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >lain
    AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese are simply incapable of writing well. Not a single good piece of literature has ever come out of Japan.

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the most off-putting mood whiplashes I've seen in any game, from flashbacks of child abuse to looney tunes shit. It's so weird. Hate this game.

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    every Alicesoft game
    >wacky silly hijinx
    >cute innocent e-girl character gets kidnapped and gangraped for days on end
    >more wacky silly hijinx

  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no good mature anime shows anymore

    I mean I still like immature shows don't get me wrong, but every anime now a days is just teeniebopper stuff. And if you're lucky maybe there is some mature themes in it. I got in Anime cause it used to have more variety in tones of shows and now its been heavily stagnated ever since.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the only anime i consume is the most popular seasonal shows and hentai 2bh

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese economy stagnated - they make these shows because they can sell, and they need to sell to stay afloat.
      Manga is still diverse because there is lower risk.

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    tranime is not video games.

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >brutal total genocide of a species of people
    >goofy shenanigans with the princess and dumb knight.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, it's really childish at times. I still havent' beaten it.

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that FMA, like DBZ, is objectively better in dub than sub.
    It is a fact and not up for debate.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >enjoying a 90 year old woman voicing more than half the cast of adult male men
        we get it you like nip shit and your entire personality is beiing a weeb but kindly kys

  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Xenoblade 2 without a shred of doubt.
    The story feels like a tug-of-war between somebody who just wants to make a campy late 90s shonen adventure in the vain of Grandia, somebody who wants to make a modern sexy-girl centric game with silly humor, and somebody who wants to write an ambitious meta-physical sci-fi existential story with psychological and religious themes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      And all three of those are one schizo person.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The tonal whiplash is ridiculous

      >chapter 3 ends in an extremely epic over the top 30 minute scene in which one of your party members sacrifices their lives to save the party and you learn some crazy shit about the antagonists to some very emotional vocal song
      >10 minutes later into chapter 4
      >AAAAAH PERVERT *slap*
      >entirety of chapter 4 is some silly light-hearted tribute to 1970s super robot shows and tokusatsu that barely has anything to do with the rest of the story besides flesh out your furball party member and his e-girl sex bot
      >chapter boss is a giant mecha girl in a maid costume
      >chapter 5
      >back to serious plot progression which results in one of the antagonists stabbing one of your party through the chest and killing her

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I will never play a Xeno game outside of 1 and X because frankly I do not believe that the 2 and 3 gays that praise its story are actually being genuine about it. Also that they just look weirdly generic to me.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        3's a much more tonally serious game than 1 actually.

        2's a schizophrenic mess that's all over the place tonally but that's part of what gives it soul, the closest thing I can compare Xenoblade 2 to is a Happy Tomino anime.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >a Happy Tomino anime.
          Yeah we know 2 sucks.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            happy tomino is peak tomino
            xenoblade 2 is peak xeno

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >happy tomino is peak tomino
              >ZZ
              >Turn A
              >peak anything

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

                >Xabungle
                >ZZ
                >Brain Powerd
                >Turn A
                >KING GAINAHHH
                >G-Reco

                0079 and CCA too, but they're not happy tomino

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Brain Powerd
                don't mind me, just posting the most "lolwat" anime opening of all time

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Do you riek it?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >talking shit about Turn A
                tasteless moron alert

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >says turn A is the peak
                >likes ZZ
                >calling anyone tasteless
                Consider a bullet to your brain

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Turn A is the single greatest anime TV series ever made, you are a tasteless pleb.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ZZ is bad because uh...
                puru puru motherfricker

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >MS Gundam ZZ 841.jpg
                >841

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw she also voiced milfs
                goodnight sweet princess

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Homo

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's soul

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I love Japan

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I actually read this but stopped early on... does he marry her?!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ____________Yes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Same

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        People raged at this. I heard about it ahead of time and could enjoy it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Same

      Reminder that both of these were written by female authors.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't realize what had happened at first

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    FMA 2003 homies be like
    >YO! This fanfic is FIRE!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The mystery of Hellsing 2001 was more interesting than the actual answer, which turned out to be le funny space nazis.

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've never watched FMA, why does this part mindbreak so many people? what happens in it?

  74. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Should I read the FullMetal Alchemist manga or watch Brotherhood?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wiki synopsis

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Neither, it's really boring. You'll leave it disappointed and wondering what you just wasted your time on. The OPs are pretty good, just watch those. None of the action in them happens in the show.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >OPs
        >good
        You don't actually believe this do you?
        Japanese """music""" is the worst shit I've ever heard

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I've heard much worse thanks to zoomers, Japanese music is great.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          (You) must be 90 years old if (you) heard a majority of Japanese music. There is like 100 years of like a trillion different artists, singers, and genres that sound completely different from each other.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Anna Tsuchiya was so incredibly beautiful and sexy as hell back then

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Jap music absolutely BTFOs modern burger music.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Damn, Japanese music sounds like THAT?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Read the manga.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Brotherhood. English Dub is good too if you don't feel like reading subs.

  75. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    2003 > FMAB until episode 25
    FMAB > 2003 for the rest of the series

    this is the only valid take

  76. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Indigo Prophecy.

    >Starts out as a supernatural murder mystery with you playing as the detectives and killer who was possessed in a game of cat and mouse
    >Devolves into doomsday cults spearheading the end of the world while an ancient Mayan has Matrix kung-fu battles with the MC in impossibly cold NYC

  77. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Take me back

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      a golden age, we had it so good.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Less than half of those are good

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Cool opinion bro. Nobody cares tho

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I fricking hate everything about Eureka seven. Probably the worst fricking anime I've ever sat through entirely.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't it like the one anime that rather than explain everything to the viewer like they're moronic it explains nothing to the point of frustration?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'd say it explains everything to the viewer, but literally nothing happens for like 7/8 of its runtime. Like no progression towards romance, no progression towards worldbuilding, no progression towards villains/threats etc.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The thing I recall hating about it was all the surf-culture ghetto overtones it had. I hated the "I just want to space surf" skateboard shit it had. I thought the whole "terrorist organization has magazine loved by teenagers" thing was moronic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don't listen to that moron. Eureka Seven is one of the best anime series ever made and one of the most classic 2000s anime that I remember to this day. It's one of those very rare examples in fiction where everything has an incredible feeling of honest humanity and emotion to everything. It has an incredibly colorful cast of characters, a wonderfully beautiful world, and an amazingly crafted story about the timeless and universal message of growing up, moving on, changing, finding a place in the world, and living to the fullest. It has one of the best romances I've ever seen in anything and wonderful aesthetic and music. It's one of a kind type of show that you will probably never get again. A true lightning in a bottle of sorts. I highly recommend it. Watching it for the first time (especially back in the times when it came out) for the very first time is a truly one of a kind experience.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Even after all that shit to finally get with Eureka, Renton is still about that Talho milf pussy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I fricking love everything about Eureka seven. It's one of the best and most human and emotional anime ever made in history

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Digibro was always based

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ummm sweaty it's actually Digisis now

  78. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I have huge nostalgia for 03 and only saw the first ~13 episodes of Brotherhood while it was airing. Am I going to ruin my memory of it by rewatching 03?

  79. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I miss Chinese Batman's wild adventures

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Name?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Darker than Black

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Cheers

  80. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >o-o-old anime is better!!!!1
    stand back boys posting kino

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      based, 2010s weren't bad.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >all that mecha
        I WANT TO GO BACK

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          When was the last time we had 2D mecha?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Gundam Witch from Mercury, it aired last season.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >no actual mech on mech interaction, just funnel shit
              yikes, is the whole series like this?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >>>mech
                >thinks his opinion matters

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Watch. The. Show.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                is this supposed to look good? watch g-reco dumbass

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ugh you like Gundam? How about you watch Gundam??

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No idea what this is supposed to mean, the two series have completely different teams behind them.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Literally only a few weeks ago

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            We've had a couple 2D mecha shows in the last couple of years.
            G-Witch comes to mind, there are very, very few CG shots.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            watch g-witch

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Yamato 2199
        Soulless nu-anime shit, watch the original

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          But I have. I've watched the original Yamato, I've even watched Harlock and GE999.

          Yamato 2199 without a doubt is one of the greatest remakes of all time and received universal praise both from old fans and new fans when it released.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yamato Resurrection utterly mogs it in every way as a modern Yamato production. 2199 has zero Yamato flavor, it's generic space adventure shit with zero gravitas, as you would expect from something produced by an ecchi studio.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'd love to live in whatever universe you came from where Yamato 2199 is generic, sounds like a cool place.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        god, Symphogear threads were the most fun I've had on Ganker since TTGL and Geass Sundays.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Starts off as a normal slice of life melodrama about a childish male model with autism having a bromance with a police officer
      >Changes into a dark comedy and Japanese version of Kick-Ass halfway through
      >Out of nowhere becomes full Super Sentai series with an actual real fricking monster
      On what drugs they were on when they were writing this shit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        and remember all of that for that ending

        that sweet ass ending

  81. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    whats his name again?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Chopping Chimp

  82. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking despise isekai solely because it absolutely destroyed fantasy anime.

  83. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wow great video game thread here

  84. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Omfgwtfbbq an oldgay anime thread on Ganker?! What year is it O.O;

  85. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    God, I fricking love Fafner so fricking much, lads. Exodus and The Beyond were amazing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Fafner
      More garbage from the hack who gave us atrocities such as GITS Arise and Psycho Pass S2

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Everything after the original TV anime is great. I don't care about whatever other shit he's done.

  86. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I miss when Bones Studio was making their own unique original series with their own stories and characters in the 2000s. Now they only do adaptions of popular shounen shit.

  87. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Same.

  88. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't say that this came out of nowhere but still, damn.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Layton?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Layton.

  89. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I miss Toradora

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