Yeah, it's annoying how the game lulls you before ramping up the difficulty for that fight. I've 1CCd it before but it doesn't feel like you've really beaten the game.
I want to get into the genre. Rate my playlist >Battle Garegga >Darius Gaiden >Einhander >Gradius Gaiden >Ikaruga >Metal Black >Panzer Dragoon Zwei >Radiant Silvergun >R-Type Delta >Thunder Force IV >Tyrian 2000
Battle Garegga is way too hard for a newbie. Otherwise, it's good, although I don't know if Panzer Dragoon can be considered a shmup. Consider playing the Thunder Cross games, they're like Gradius but easier, very good for newcomers.
I may be a shmup newbie, but I've played a lot of super hard games before. The more challenging the better I think.
Some of these games are entry level (Tyrian, Thunder Force) and Garegga is an end boss game. I'd go with something like Dodonpachi or Vasara 2 at first. Fun, hard and complex but not overwhelming. If you play something too easy you'll just get bored
>Dodonpachi or Vasara 2
Not a fan of the anime aesthetic or bullet hell style gameplay though
If you're not a fan of bullet hells then that definitely leaves Garegga off the table for you. Even at low rank the game really piles it on towards the end.
In that case check out Seibu and Psikyo games, they're more twitch-based with less screen clutter. Raiden Fighters 1 and Strikers 1945 II are nice entry points. Also, Gradius and R-Type were great from the start so don't skip the first games.
Why? He's not ready to take it on. Let the guy find his footing first.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If he's interested in the game he is. Stop being a pussy ass bitch.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Huh? It's not like I told him not to play it. He said he doesn't want bullet hells, so I gave him other recs instead.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Garegga isn't a bullet hell.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wtf is wrong with the aspect ratio, what's that device anyways?
Can anyone recommend games like strikers 1945? Tried a lot of shmups but nothing has matched it, I like how it handles difficulty and the aesthetic is so good
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Garegga is the reason Cave went full danmaku with DDP. They wanted to rival it.
Some of these games are entry level (Tyrian, Thunder Force) and Garegga is an end boss game. I'd go with something like Dodonpachi or Vasara 2 at first. Fun, hard and complex but not overwhelming. If you play something too easy you'll just get bored
Decent, but I wonder if it's even possible for people to "get into" the genre anymore. Like, do you expect to clear ANY of those games? Do you enjoy climbing score ladders?
Garegga
Play Batrider instead. Better in every way. Make sure you look up how to manage rank for either game.
Gaiden
One of the greats, definitely check out Darius 2 as well if you like it
Garbage
Gaiden
Haven't played it but supposed to be one of the best Gradius games. Personally I'd just start with Gradius 1 though
Garbage
Black
Replace this with Rayforce. Metal Black is just Darius but without any of the elements that make Darius good
Dragoon Zwei
No opinion
Silvergun
Don't do two treasure games. Both are shit, but you might like them. >>R-Type Delta
Again, just play R-Type 1 or Leo (which doesnt play like a R-Type game)
Force IV
Terrible game. Play Gate of Thunder, it's like Thunder Force but not complete shit.
2000
Not played it, heard it's very euroshmuppy but also unique
Batrider fixes bullet visibility, character variety, medalling, rank management, the broken autofire, the shitty option formation system, balances the ship variants (A, B, C, ABC) to actually be an interesting trafeoff, has way more interesting secrets, and actually rewards Gold Standard play instead of requiring suicides
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don’t even play garegga. All of those are features, not flaws that need ”fixing”. Ship variety is great in garegga btw.
1 week ago
Anonymous
If you don't even understand what I mean then you clearly haven't played Garegga beyond a surface level.
Batrider just takes Garegga fixes the jank and improves it on nearly every aspect. The only reason to prefer Garegga is if you just really prefer the dieselpunk aesthetic.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>game is objectively better even though it isn't
You might have autism.
Instead of asking what's bad about it, ask one of these "fans" what's good about it and they can't answer you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I've seen redditors write multiple paragraphs about how vampire survivors is a bullethell and requires extreme focus so I'm sure they could generate a few paragraphs about how kino some game they never played is
I always found Plutos on the Atari ST intensely comfy. It's a very basic shooter that's just what you'd expect, but it's got a cute little single screen setup with a lot of fun stuff happening on it, interesting field designs and enemy shapes, always had fun trying to see how far I could get just to see how much the space station landscape would change and the increasingly weird "boss face" that starts out with eyes and gradually gets teeth and other obstacles that need to be shot. As a kid I imagined it just went on forever.
>but I'm too old and lacking sufficient youth experience with the genre to ever 1CC it.
Not true. The best shmup players in the world are 40-60 year old boomers
The last one I played was Gun Nac. My supervisor also played the unlicensed Aladdin III (Magic Carpet) game on NES recently and now I kind of want to play it myself as I had no idea about it
This and no.
I've been playing R-Type 2 and Twinkle Star Sprites casually, I should probably put more effort since I'm pretty close to no-missing TSS
>I should probably put more effort since I'm pretty close to no-missing TSS
Good luck with Memory, she's the single reason why I have like 3 1-miss runs in the game.
Yeah, it's annoying how the game lulls you before ramping up the difficulty for that fight. I've 1CCd it before but it doesn't feel like you've really beaten the game.
R type 2 final is a huge pain in the ass, so many untelegraphed screen filling attacks, it's like a memory game on top of a shmup.
I want to get into the genre. Rate my playlist
>Battle Garegga
>Darius Gaiden
>Einhander
>Gradius Gaiden
>Ikaruga
>Metal Black
>Panzer Dragoon Zwei
>Radiant Silvergun
>R-Type Delta
>Thunder Force IV
>Tyrian 2000
I've already played MUSHA and thought it was okay
Battle Garegga is way too hard for a newbie. Otherwise, it's good, although I don't know if Panzer Dragoon can be considered a shmup. Consider playing the Thunder Cross games, they're like Gradius but easier, very good for newcomers.
I may be a shmup newbie, but I've played a lot of super hard games before. The more challenging the better I think.
>Dodonpachi or Vasara 2
Not a fan of the anime aesthetic or bullet hell style gameplay though
If you're not a fan of bullet hells then that definitely leaves Garegga off the table for you. Even at low rank the game really piles it on towards the end.
I will play it anyways because the art and soundtrack are badass
Enjoying a game is way more important to 1CC'ing a game than difficulty.
In that case check out Seibu and Psikyo games, they're more twitch-based with less screen clutter. Raiden Fighters 1 and Strikers 1945 II are nice entry points. Also, Gradius and R-Type were great from the start so don't skip the first games.
>muh too hard
Stop recommending lesser games over garegga
Why? He's not ready to take it on. Let the guy find his footing first.
If he's interested in the game he is. Stop being a pussy ass bitch.
Huh? It's not like I told him not to play it. He said he doesn't want bullet hells, so I gave him other recs instead.
Garegga isn't a bullet hell.
Wtf is wrong with the aspect ratio, what's that device anyways?
Can anyone recommend games like strikers 1945? Tried a lot of shmups but nothing has matched it, I like how it handles difficulty and the aesthetic is so good
Garegga is the reason Cave went full danmaku with DDP. They wanted to rival it.
It's hard, but it's worth getting into. Just play it, read wikis or whatever to get the system mechanics and get better.
Some of these games are entry level (Tyrian, Thunder Force) and Garegga is an end boss game. I'd go with something like Dodonpachi or Vasara 2 at first. Fun, hard and complex but not overwhelming. If you play something too easy you'll just get bored
Decent, but I wonder if it's even possible for people to "get into" the genre anymore. Like, do you expect to clear ANY of those games? Do you enjoy climbing score ladders?
Garegga
Play Batrider instead. Better in every way. Make sure you look up how to manage rank for either game.
Gaiden
One of the greats, definitely check out Darius 2 as well if you like it
Garbage
Gaiden
Haven't played it but supposed to be one of the best Gradius games. Personally I'd just start with Gradius 1 though
Garbage
Black
Replace this with Rayforce. Metal Black is just Darius but without any of the elements that make Darius good
Dragoon Zwei
No opinion
Silvergun
Don't do two treasure games. Both are shit, but you might like them.
>>R-Type Delta
Again, just play R-Type 1 or Leo (which doesnt play like a R-Type game)
Force IV
Terrible game. Play Gate of Thunder, it's like Thunder Force but not complete shit.
2000
Not played it, heard it's very euroshmuppy but also unique
>batrider better than garegga
Just lol
Yes, and it's not even close. It fixes basically all of the (many) flaws of Battle Garegga
There’s nothing in garegga that need fixing.
Batrider fixes bullet visibility, character variety, medalling, rank management, the broken autofire, the shitty option formation system, balances the ship variants (A, B, C, ABC) to actually be an interesting trafeoff, has way more interesting secrets, and actually rewards Gold Standard play instead of requiring suicides
You don’t even play garegga. All of those are features, not flaws that need ”fixing”. Ship variety is great in garegga btw.
If you don't even understand what I mean then you clearly haven't played Garegga beyond a surface level.
Batrider just takes Garegga fixes the jank and improves it on nearly every aspect. The only reason to prefer Garegga is if you just really prefer the dieselpunk aesthetic.
>game is objectively better even though it isn't
You might have autism.
it's too hard for me so I can cope with the easier Batrider instead
>easier batrider
batrider is objectively harder than gayregga when playing for score
What's makes them garbage, everyone seems to love ikaruga
the peopld who "love" shitkaruga don't even play it.
Okay but I wanna hear why you think some games are good and some are bad so I can copy your points and sound smart on reddit
Instead of asking what's bad about it, ask one of these "fans" what's good about it and they can't answer you.
I've seen redditors write multiple paragraphs about how vampire survivors is a bullethell and requires extreme focus so I'm sure they could generate a few paragraphs about how kino some game they never played is
Said the nonplayer with no clears who shits up shmup threads to cry over Treasure.
Post your shitruga clear
Don't feed Auster, anon.
Ikaruga is to shmups in the same way Halo is to FPS. It's normies intro into the genre and thus disliked by autists of said genres.
Halo is actually a good game at its core though unlike Ikaruga
I don't agree, Halo is pretty shit and pioneered everything bad about modern FPS games.
>vehicles
>cover shooting
>regenerating shields
>2 weapon limit
but whatever, ikaruga and halo are both shit
The Halo/COD of shmups is Touhou though.
normies dont eat up touhou
Touhou is as normie as it gets for shmups. I've actually spoken to people who don't even know Gradius or R-Type who are into Touhou remixes.
Most touhou retards don't even play the games. It's an mlp tier fandom.
You just outed yourself as never speaking to normies, autist
Also you need a Psikyo game. Play Sonic Wings (Arcade) or Sengoku Ace. Both great.
For me? It's Z Gundam for SFC with my girlfriend
I always found Plutos on the Atari ST intensely comfy. It's a very basic shooter that's just what you'd expect, but it's got a cute little single screen setup with a lot of fun stuff happening on it, interesting field designs and enemy shapes, always had fun trying to see how far I could get just to see how much the space station landscape would change and the increasingly weird "boss face" that starts out with eyes and gradually gets teeth and other obstacles that need to be shot. As a kid I imagined it just went on forever.
Sorcer Striker and Kingdom Grand Prix
I cant commit to one game long enough to gitgud. There are way too many and they are all fun.
How do you do it.
Hope your skills transfer and if they don't lrn2cope
>How do you do it.
I don't
/vg/ kids should go back
Mars Matrix (arcade), but I'm too old and lacking sufficient youth experience with the genre to ever 1CC it.
>but I'm too old and lacking sufficient youth experience with the genre to ever 1CC it.
Not true. The best shmup players in the world are 40-60 year old boomers
The last one I played was Gun Nac. My supervisor also played the unlicensed Aladdin III (Magic Carpet) game on NES recently and now I kind of want to play it myself as I had no idea about it