What authority do gatekeepers have? Before you become a fan, you have to be an outsider.
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What authority do gatekeepers have? Before you become a fan, you have to be an outsider.
Calling it "gatekeeping" and trying to stop it GIVES it authority
No, what it is is self-aggrandizing. Only the original creator have the authority, everyone else is LARPing in their own heads "But what if I had the authority?"
The original creator doesn't have dick. Death of the Author.
You can't spell Authority without Author.
They want the victim status. Victim status is clout
Gatekeeping toxic substances is crucial for any entity's survival. Just look at what happened when normal gays, attention prostitutes and megacorp marketers got "into" gaming and Ganker.
You didn't pay for my copy, you don't have a say.
You didn't pay for mine, so YOU don't have a say either.
Don't need to. I can enter any community I please, and you've gotta deal with me.
And you've got to deal with not being listened to and treated with all due respect. That is to say, none.
What's a gatekeeper's respect worth anyways?
Don't know, people seem pretty desperate for it and angry when they don't get it.
Bullying was invented to weed out this kind of social ineptitude.
So how did gamers gatekeeping stop any of that?
yeah and look at what happened when /misc/gays and literal homosexuals got into cult of the lamb
the difference is that gatekeepers assimilated the hobby, while outsiders try to change it to better suit them
you join a community and learn about how it works, being integrated into it = congrats you can gatekeep
you join a community and demand casualition instead of trying to understand the game = congrats you are the cancer who should be gatekept
In any other hobby people that have been into it for a long time expect newcomers to put some effort in, but in vidya if you take issue with things just being dumbed down for people with surface level interest in then it's suddenly "gatekeeping". Like drooling autists asking for every single videogame to be able to be played by every single person ever and demanding stuff like easy modes and the like.
You're powerless over a game's life cycle. All you can do is sit and cry, tied to a chair and ball gagged.
Sounds like projection to me
>All you can do is sit and cry, tied to a chair and ball gagged.
hot
Because gaming isn't seen as a "real" hobby yet. It's still seen as a toy, just a more socially acceptable toy.
I've convinced people to not play games I like.
Gatekeeping works when you're smart about it and it's a duty if you're a fan of something.
>Before you become a fan
That's the thing, people against gatekeeping aren't fans.
>it's aimed at young boys and teenagers
>why are they showing big breasts?!
That's what annoys me most of all. The creators clearly have a demographic in mind, and the very people who claim that we shouldn't prevent influence from people from outside of that target demographic have the nerve to b***h and moan that it's not appealing to them. I don't get a sense of righteous outrage at tampon commercials for not appealing to the demographic that soaks them in vodka and shoves them up the ass, and you know why? Because that may be a legitimate demographic of tampon consumers, but it sure as frick isn't who they're trying to sell to. Also because that's a totally fricking ridiculous thing to get upset about - as is an anime protagonist stealing panties.
if white males like it then it's bad and you need to find a new demographic
That's another thing. No one ever has a problem telling the white male audience that a piece of entertainment isn't for them and that their detracting opinions aren't valid, but we're not allowed to tell people who are offended by ecchi imagery in an otherwise non-sexual work that works containing the above might just not be for them. I don't want to turn my point into a /misc/ pity party, but if we generally understand the "not for you" argument then why is it so fricking hard to apply elsewhere?
To be fair, Ganker is already a /misc/ pity party.
>That's what annoys me most of all. The creators clearly have a demographic in mind
it's simple, they're under the ~~*mindset*~~ that everything gets made for representation and mass market appeal first and only, and not as a hobby for a niche.
Gatekeeping is about respecting developer intent and protecting games from people who want to change them for selfish reasons.
Either you grew up without a father or never had a mentor in order to be as clueless about what constitutes authority as you.
Gatekeeping is stopping people from saying stupid shit about games that they never played.
reminder SMBC is a israelite
The fall of SMBC was one of the sadder ones for me to watch.
Ironically Ganker has no gatekeeping because Hiro and the mods aren't interested in doing that sort of thing, which is why so many anons treat the site like their own personal garbage bin and leaving all the actual, civilized and constructive discussion for the other sites they browse.
He still makes good comics from time to time
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You ain't seen nothing yet.
holy frick i forgot about those things.
frick you for making me aware of them again.
Oh FRICK no. Has anyone here even actually read all that shit?
I have
TLDR: Soldier goes to war, war is hell, politicians and corporations made us do bad things
Yeah all those tall attractive people are failing to find sexual partners all right.
Those tall attractive people aren't hunting bears now are they
Yeah I guess there's no use for patience, long-term planning, calmness under pressure, leadership etc. in today's society.
I doubt that sort of sarcasm is gonna kill bears
my favorite, people talking as if the medieval ages was humanities golden age even though they know fricking nothing about it.
>muh evolution
fan like the hobby for what it is and don't want it to change because they want to enjoy it for what it is.
the people that are being gatekeep want the hobby to change according to their personal opinions/desires, therefore being harmful to the original intention the hobby/thing they were originally interested in had.
its not rocke science you fricking gay
>can't just engage with [thing] on his own terms
>needs to form opinions and needs approval from other people first
If you think like that you probably need to be gatekept, homosexual.
Nobody wants to hear someone’s uneducated opinions on what the game should be
Real gatekeeping is stupid, but what most people call gatekeeping is simply not helping a moronic person through a wide-open door.
I don't care what hobbies you enjoy but I'm not your tutorial.
>Real gatekeeping is stupid
>t.Sir Shekelstein
I'm German, I'm the enemy of all israelites.
I simply don't care for gatekeeping.
>gatekeeping is bad
>vaccines are good
explain this
>Ganker cries for gatekeeping
>Ganker can't do basic motions in a fighting game
Hmmmm.
I cannot think of a better way to gatekeep as the S4 league community did before the hacker and p2w fiasco.
Its so perfect, if you can't keep up you will not play with skilled players. This way if you were a low skilled player you were matched with players like yourself. If you wanted to be not shit on every game, you had to improve, and you couldn't just say: my team is shit, because it was possible to carry shitty players.
The entire process is: "This guy shat on me, I want to be better than him"
This was the entire game's premise, and it worked. There was only way to improve: you had to ask the person to teach you. You had a lot of "no", but eventually you found a guy who was willing to do it. Its shitty to ask someone who just pummeled you into ground, but it was essential to grow. This concept was literally enforced by the game, since it had a teacher-student mechanic, so you get bonuses if you have "pupils". It was bare bones, but the idea was incredibly good, as you physically cannot improve if you don't contact with other players. That mechanical skills cannot be learned from a shitty wiki page, or even videos couldn't give you a full glimpse.
I fricking hated the shit out of the guy who was teaching me, but I also admired him and practiced just to rub it in his face. Its frustrating as frick when you cannot do anything, and he just one shots you, but this drive to defeat him, is the essential. This style of system is impossible in modern gaming as people would rather quit than ask someone else to teach them.
the people who complain about gatekeeping are the exact people gatekeeping is meant to keep out
Power. The only authority that matters.
Gatekeeping nowadays is impossible and people that pretend it's not are moronic. "Just don't talk about the game bro" is not gatekeeping.
>Gatekeeping nowadays is impossible
not really
just keep killing them until they give up
>What authority do gatekeepers have?
Love of the game and community.
Gatekeeping is like the communities immune system.
Video games need MORE gatekeeping not less.
>gatekeeping didnt achieve anything it was supposed to
>"w-w-well it is because we didn't gatekeep hard enough"
Lmao gategay cope
>I brush my teeth once
>still get cavities
>"Y-y-y-you need to bursh your teef more!"
Lmao brushgay cope
Only gatekeeping you should try to do is gatekeeping my dick out of your tight little butthole.
I don't gatekeep, I know I'm the only person with an objectively correct opinion on the media I consume, and that everyone elses opinions are wrong.
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