What caused such a sharp and sudden decline in quality in japanese games & media in the recent years?

What caused such a sharp and sudden decline in quality in japanese games & media in the recent years?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anime was a mistake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this
      also mexico is a mistake

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        renta gratis

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is not free when cartels owns it, dumb frogposter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Using that quote in this context
      Ironic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whats the actual context? I always assumed Miyazaki is a homosexual communist who was mad that anyone besides him made anime. He wanted to sieze the means of (anime) production and is mad some Otaku having fun like Anno can do so well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The context is that he said this in the late 70s or early 80's, the full quote is something about passion vs mass produced media, Miyazaki was saying this since 40 years ago, he isn't talking about modern anime. So yeah, all those 80's masterpieces? Slop, according to Miyazaki.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a shame but I figured as much, hence my comment. He's a gatekeeping homosexual commie who thinks that only he gets to make anime. He threatens global distributors that if they distribute anime movies not made by him then he won't let them distribute his next studio ghibli Disney slop that he releases once a decade.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You have to remember that Miyazaki is pretty old, what he considers "good" anime is what we would see as those shows that were
              really "cartoonish" and somewhat western influenced. I can understand his feelings though, he was part of the generation that MADE anime, so yeah. He isn't really a "communist" I always felt he was more of a purist, in the sense that he really respected his craft and really wanted others to do so too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Whats the actual context? I always assumed Miyazaki is a homosexual communist who was mad that anyone besides him made anime. He wanted to sieze the means of (anime) production and is mad some Otaku having fun like Anno can do so well.

            I prefer Dezaki anyways

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese games have been dominating in recent years they have higher review scores and more GOTYs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, and they look like this you weeb homosexual

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Weird how the culture that made that style can't even use it anymore. Why is that? You should be able to solve this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >look like
        Nobody cares what videogames look like.
        They actually have gameplay unlike western walk-and-talk trash

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >western walk-and-talk trash
          Does this include indie games and AA int. co-productions like Hi-Fi Rush?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A Japanese game?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I filtered your picture. I will never see it again.

    Make another one, homosexual.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      or better, keep hating against mexicans

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >open mspaint
      >add a tiny little pixel and change the resolution by just a little bit
      >???
      >filtergays btfo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying shitposters have that level of dedication
        >implying shitposters have a pc

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look at the endless amount of coomers and trannies eating up right on this very board then ask that question again

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It doesn't appeal to me so it's bad
    It's amazing how childish people always try to act mature

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have a lobotomized brain if you think right is anywhere near comparable to left you homosexual troony

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it's not comparable then why did you make an image comparing them...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why did you make an image comparing them...
          I'm not OP moron and the image is directly saying right is a downgrade

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think you've ever actually watched a Kurosawa movie. Not to insult the man, but basically everything he made was simple, mass appeal movies with simple themes that were elevated by their excellent direction, amazing acting, and almost unreal sets. The dude built and exploded entire castles. Akira and Battle Royal are similar, and Akira in particular is basically "What if a punk got psychic powers that made his body explode wouldn't that be fricked or what". But Akira is animated with like double the frames of your average anime and the action scenes kick ass so it's a classic. Everyone references the bike scene but IMO one of the highlights is when the guy gets absolutely annihilated by gunfire under a spotlight trying to get one of those blue kids to safety. These are not art films.

    Realistically, shows like Frieren or Chainsaw Man have much deeper and more subtle themes than stuff like Akira while maintaining the same excellent direction and animation despite being a TV series. You only look back at Kurosawa as "deep" because you've never actually sat down and watched his movies. Harakiri is a crowd pleaser, the last scene is that it's awesome to get one over on pretentious rich people. You're also comparing the highlights of movies versus TV anime. TV budgets are a lot lower, and the fact that we can still get breakout hits like Frieren is pretty miraculous. There were also plenty of shitty, derivative, pointless filler shows/movies from Japan in the 70s/80s. Trust me, I've actually seen them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There were also plenty of shitty, derivative, pointless filler shows/movies from Japan in the 70s/80s.
      They were quickly forgotten, and also largely ignored by the general audience and barely received attention because they sucked while the good ones remained popular and relevant, deservedly.
      So why isn’t the crappy stuff today also disregarded like back then? Not only are they NOT deemed as poorly made and disregarded, they become the most popular and highest selling shows in modern japanese media, but also among foreigners while the decent medias are ignored instead. Why is that?

      >You only look back at Kurosawa as “deep”
      I didn’t say that. I’m merely trying to bring up fact that, do they or do they not create objectively good mainstream media like they used to? It doesn’t have to be “deep”. Can they still make some good media today or do they make mostly bad media today? I’m leaning towards the latter.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So why isn’t the crappy stuff today also disregarded like back then?
        Because it is, or rather it will be, we just haven't reached the time scale for this kind of stuff to be forgotten in the modern era yet. There's always been stuff that was popular in the moment but has largely been left aside as people look back and sift through what was good and what was bad. It's highly dishonest framing to not only compare the best of the best MOVIES to a smattering of modern TV anime, especially when you're giving the movies the benefit of almost 60 years of hindsight. Do you really think that after 60 years, people aren't going to be picking the best of the best of 2020s anime? Your selection of movies has roughly 2 for each decade from the 60s to the early 2000s, but I'm pretty sure every TV anime is from the last 3-4 years. I mean frick me Frieren ended LAST WEEK.

        >I’m leaning towards the latter.
        Well you're a fricking moron who's never actually seen 70s/80s TV anime. If you showed a guy who just finished watching Rose of Versailles (an anime I actually really loved) Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid and told them it was a regular TV anime they'd fricking lose their shit. They'd probably think Japan has somehow conquered the world or discovered an infinite money glitch. Seriously, the floor on animation quality has gone up so much over the last 30 years that even lower budget shows like Cop Craft are still pretty passable. You don't realize this because you don't actually watch older TV anime, you just complain that newer anime isn't "badass" enough. Guess what moron, Invader Lum was in the same genre as shit like Kaguya-san and Uzaki-chan. Like seriously, throw on Astro Boy or even a late 80s OVA like Record of Lodoss War. Tezuka kicks ass but both of these shows are basically power point presentations. Don't even get me started on how much better the average manga adaptation is these days either.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't even get me started on how much better the average manga adaptation is these days either.
          Actually I'm gonna get myself started on this because this thread is shit and the OP is a homosexual moron anyway. Do you know how awesome the Dragon Ball manga is? RIP Toriyama, he really was one of the greatest artists of all time. His paneling, his drafting, everything about his work is almost perfect and the Dragon Ball anime fricks it all up because back then it was common to make an anime while the manga was still going on and as a result, when they hit later sagas after they caught up to the manga, every episode has like 12 minutes of the characters standing around doing frick all. It kills the pacing when they spend 30 seconds ON A SINGLE PANEL. And every adaptation was like this. It had to be, they were adapting like 1-2 chapters an episode because corporate decided they couldn't just stop making Dragon Ball while they waited for more chapters to come out. And if it wasn't that they would do some dogshit original ending like Full Metal Alchemist or Soul Eater. Or they'd do a filler arc that straight up changed the story or characters going forward.

          Not a lot of modern manga can really compare to Dragon Ball, I mean what can, but at least when you pick up the Chainsaw Man anime you know that there won't be an entire episode dedicated to Denji standing around slowly revving his chainsaws as he walks towards whatever devil he's fighting. I didn't really like My Hero Academia but the contrast between modern adaptations is particularly strong there, where the anime has adapted the same material as the One Piece anime but has literally 1/5th the episodes. But no anime sucks now guys it's all over we need to go back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am so fricking excited about the OP remake Netflix is doing. With the LA bringing eyes to the IP it might finally he the time for OP to shine on the west.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd say One Piece is pretty popular in the west. It's not Dragon Ball Z tier but still pretty well-known. I imagine that's why Netflix is doing so much with the series, they know it's going to be popular.

              You have to remember that Miyazaki is pretty old, what he considers "good" anime is what we would see as those shows that were
              really "cartoonish" and somewhat western influenced. I can understand his feelings though, he was part of the generation that MADE anime, so yeah. He isn't really a "communist" I always felt he was more of a purist, in the sense that he really respected his craft and really wanted others to do so too.

              Also important to note that Miyazaki is a misanthropic, grumpy old man that walked out on his own son's directorial debut. I'm not sure he likes anything except directing, hence why he's "retired" like 10 times now. He's on record as saying he wishes Japan would get poorer so people would die off and nature would reclaim the country. There are valid criticisms of anime but it could be perfect and Miyazaki would still find something to complain about.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is that it got completely shafted early on. The fox kids dub made it look considerably more childish than it really is and the length makes a lot of people hesitant to start it. The Remake could be the thing to finally bring the real one piece to the west in an approachable manner.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Seriously, the floor on animation quality has gone up so much over the last 30 years
          Is that what you’re comparing? About how pretty the animation looks? That’s not what I’m comparing at all. Well it’s part of the whole thing but I don’t care solely if it looks good or not, I care if it is well made. You know, I’m talking about writing, characters, visuals, sound and whatever. Now it’s all just put some sexual slapstick comedy with a generic cute anime girl to sell the viewers and call it a day. I’m obviously not saying that’s ALL anime, I’m saying that’s what’s most popular. Now, I’m not a critic who can fully articulate what makes a media “high quality” but I can see there’s clearly something wrong with these mainstream modern shows. Can’t you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don’t care solely if it looks good or not, I care if it is well made
            MORON

            >Now it’s all just put some sexual slapstick comedy with a generic cute anime girl to sell the viewers and call it a day
            moron

            >Now, I’m not a critic who can fully articulate what makes a media “high quality” but I can see there’s clearly something wrong with these mainstream modern shows
            DIPSHIT

            literally nothing changed

            This. And you know what? Sailor Moon, Card Captor Sakura, Invader Lum, Rose of Versailles, Dr. Slump, all great, all worth watching/reading. Same goes for a lot on the right too.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >moron dipshit moron
              Thanks anon we already know you lack the ability to reason you didn't have to double down

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >This. And you know what? Sailor Moon, Card Captor Sakura, Invader Lum, Rose of Versailles, Dr. Slump, all great, all worth watching/reading. Same goes for a lot on the right too
              N-NOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST LIKE BOTH!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can LIKE them, not DEFEND them. Liking you can like whatever the frick you want, but saying "modern stuff is good as the old" is factually false. You can like Picasso but if you say "dude Picasso is good as Michelangelo i would say no way in fricking hell". There is something of objectivity when you compare two things in the same genre outside of the personal preference.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really. Modern shounen adaptations are largely better than their 80s/90s counterparts due to a number of factors, and most of the stuff in the OP's picture are adaptations of shounen manga. Nothing is universal but for instance as a pure measure of adaptation versus adaptation, Kaguya-sama is MILES ahead of the Dragon Ball anime. If we're talking manga straight up then I have a slight bias for older manga based on personal taste but one thing that's nice about newer manga is that you can get almost anything published and adapted, whereas before the industry was more narrow. Like they're making an anime based on Synecdoche's fat elf fetish manga, that shit would not have happened in 1987.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cop craft is passable
          >Lodoss is a powerpoint
          Thanks for letting us know how moronic you are so we don't have to bother arguing

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hey man I love Lodoss War but let's not pretend it's got great animation. Like the actual drawings are top tier and people still talk about it to this day because of that, but outside of the episode 1 dragon fight and the final battle there's not really a whole lot of animation to be had. It was probably a conscious choice on the part of the production company to aim for top quality frames, and the music is great, but again you look at something like Dungeon Meshi and it's obvious that newer shows have much more animation on average. And Dungeon Meshi has some great drawings too.

            I just bring up Cop Craft because it's the lowest budget modern anime I actually bothered to finish. And IMO it proves an important point, great story and great characters can't make up for bad drawings, bad direction, and bad animation. Otherwise Berserk 2016 would be watchable, and it isn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the hell is Invader Lum? I sincerely hope youre not talking about Urusei Yatsura. Because nobody has ever called it that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trying to compare 80s japan to 20s japan
      Fricking lol
      The first world is suicidal nobody has any hope they just want to escape this crushing reality
      the 80s was filled with hope and economic prosperity modern day is nothing but a slog to our deaths, that's why media is considerably worse now

      Kurosawa may not have been deep but set design and direction are art forms in themselves and it blows anything out of the water of modern day films/anime

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the 80s was filled with hope and economic prosperity

        I think that you are someone who wants to seem like someone who knows something. But you're not.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no argument
          Many such cases, nothing will compare to the economic boom of the 80s for both America and Japan

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's no need to make a super long argument against you because you're a fricking dumbass pseudo-intellectual and it's painfully obvious to anyone who has seen ANYTHING from the "classic" era of Japanese media. Kurosawa made most of his movies in the 60s and 70s, way before the 80s bubble. Akira and Perfect Blue were made in the 90s. You know, the decade that produced the literal Lost Generation of hopeless burnouts? Satoshi Kon continued his amazing run of movies well into the 2000s and only stopped because he literally died. Describing modern anime as "hopeless escapism" is a mischaracterization of almost everything currently airing. Chainsaw Man is about how even a shitty life can be paradise as long as you're with people you care about and material possessions can't make you happy. Sousou no Frieren is one of the most hopeful and sentimental anime I've seen in years. SpyxFamily is about how your normal everyday life is more enriching and fulfilling than even the most high intensity spy or assassination work.

            No one's arguing with you because you're obviously a moron spouting platitudes you picked up from someone else. You don't know what you're talking about.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Cherrypicks modern day examples
              >SEE ALL ANIME IS LIKE THESE
              Those are the exception that proves the rule you blubbering moron can't believe I sat through that wall of text for fricking nothing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wahhhhh you just dismissed me instead of arguing my point
                >Wait you're arguing with me? Uhhhhhhh tl;dr bro!
                >Modern anime is just escapism
                >Counter examples? Those don't count because I said so.
                BEEP BEEP moron ALERT moron ALERT BEEP BEEP

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All you have to do is look at the OP image and you'll know I'm right
                Fricking lmaoing at your failing argument

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Movies back then were good because of the 80s bubble
                The movies in question are all from the 60s to the 90s
                >Anime now sucks because it's all about escapism
                Even in this highly cherry-picked example there are several anime that have the exact opposite theme of wish fulfillment/escapism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cherrypicks
                Black person what do you think the OP was doing?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >16 anime that came out in the same decade and millions of others that aren't listed but considerably more slop-like
                vs
                >8 films that came out 30 years apart from each other
                At what point does it stop being cherrypicking you literal mong

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you know what cherry picking is, or what slop is, and considering there are 10 movies in the OP's picture, I don't even think you can fricking count.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anime isn't real cinema sorry anon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Having two completely different sampling schemes and then comparing them is indeed cherrypicking. Go ahead and pick 16 random anime from the 70s and then compare.

                >8 classics that came out 30 years apart from each other
                That's the cherrypicking part you mong, you're comparing the best shit produced within a 30-year timeframe to stuff made in the last 10 years or so
                Why don't you post all of those Gundam-wannabes from the 80s instead, that would be a much more fair comparison

                >N-No y-you don't understand!!!!
                >M-my Chinese fingerpaintings are definitely based!!!
                >SUPER BASED!!!
                >L-l-look at all the examples I have to s-show you!
                *crickets*
                I accept your concession

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Having two completely different sampling schemes and then comparing them is indeed cherrypicking. Go ahead and pick 16 random anime from the 70s and then compare.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >8 classics that came out 30 years apart from each other
                That's the cherrypicking part you mong, you're comparing the best shit produced within a 30-year timeframe to stuff made in the last 10 years or so
                Why don't you post all of those Gundam-wannabes from the 80s instead, that would be a much more fair comparison

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's a gross mischaracterization of akira. read the manga.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I own the Akira manga, but we're not talking about that, we're talking about the movie. Which, realistically, is an entirely different story that just borrows elements and characters from the manga. A movie being low brow or high concept isn't bad, and Akira the movie is a classic for a reason, it's just that the movie itself isn't that complicated. This is not a bad thing.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, you just got older.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Two nukes, to be precise.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      compared to trillions of beheadings, nah.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everything in that pic is after the nukes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Which is exactly why two were not enough

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You haven't watched a single on of those movies.
    The fact that you felt the need to fill the left with so many of Kurosawa's movies and the right with romantic comedies already tells me everything I need to know about you.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to be fair nagatoro is a good thing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      very sussy post

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's heartbreaking to see Japanese cinema failing right before my eyes (although it started like 15 years ago). I'm not talking about anime, just the movies. I don't think they made anything great since Aoi Haru and even that was probably a fluke. Now they only make cheap melodramas and "comedies" with Japanese "humor".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japan is falling...they are making shows...with...with....Japanese humor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes? Their comedy sucks balls

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this is what’s considered humorous in Japan
        no wonder these morons are falling lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you saying Anime needs to appeal to more western audiences ?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This beta male crap is appealing to western audiences, dumbass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The frick are you talking about? Godzilla Minus One came out a few months ago and Shin Kamen Rider was great.

      japanese media peaked with harakiri

      It really was awesome. Remember when the dude tosses those top knots at the feet of the clan leader? Me and my friends were all watching it together and we all said "Oh shit" simultaneously. Such a sick movie, I can't believe they made the poor kid kill himself with a wooden sword.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It has a lot of kino moments like the one you mentioned, the final duel, but my favourite is when hanchiro tosses the samurai armor a few seconds before commiting harakiri and getting shot. I recommend watching Cure (1997). It's also one of the best japanese films ever made

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've seen it! Just last month I watched that movie, it's so fricking cool. The theme of hypnotism and the droning ambience in every scene, just really excellent stuff. Going into it knowing it's a murder mystery based around hypnosis I was expecting it to be kind of cheesy but I was genuinely on edge for most of the movie. God and that scene with the desiccated monkey was so creepy, really stuck with me. Not sure if I'd put it on the same level, but if we're giving out recommendations you should check out The Rapacious Jailbreaker. Really funny movie about a guy who keeps breaking out of prison only to get caught again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >talking about japanese cinema
        >bring up otakuslop like godzilla and frickong kamen rider as examples of good cinema
        almost as insulting as calling marvelslop good american cinema

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    japanese media peaked with harakiri

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan is just 10 years ahead of the west.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ah yes, cherry picking classics from past 80 years and comparing it to pop media from last 5 years

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the “classics” were popular in japan back then when they released. The shows on the right are the most popular in japan right now (except for shonen). See the difference?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    literally nothing changed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the anime on the left are better tbh

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe but I don't think they can carry Miss Machiko

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Comparing clamp or lamu to spy for family or nagatoro.
      Zoom zoom.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's a fair comparison overall, moron.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What impact did Nagatoro have on the industry?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            being the imposter

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Milestones of the genre, made by hand by talent people, remembered fondly after 40+ years.
            >FOTM modern digital anime, isekai shit with blank backgrounds and zero skill.
            Lol. Grow a culture.

            the problem here is you probably have no idea about several of them on the left and yet act like all of them on the left are masterpieces

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry but Patlabor alone shits on everything on the right.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I was 20 in the 90's and i read everything on the left and more (except the 7th from the top left, that i have no idea). The stuff on the left has various genre and it's extremely clear is drawn by different people and has different themes.
              The shit on the right looks like copy pasted shit. Yeah the drawing is different but a man who didn't read anything on the right can point out where the plot is "an average self insert has an harembitchytimid girl but in the end he get her". Which is the majority of the shit on the right.
              Over styles and drawing... are we really arguing about the drawing traits of clamp, or the author of patlabour or toyrama to... whoever drawn nagatoro or konosuba? Please.
              Only relevant shit is chainsaw man because it had a budget but, guess what, it was just and edgy show easily forgotten after a month. Spy x family goes on because people have shitty life and they are cool with a family story. The two yakuzas with a kid was EXTREMELY better than sxf but they didn't have a cute mascotte so whatever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >midnight otaku anime didn't even exist in the 80s
                Because otaku was something different it were the people obsessed on building gundam action figures or going to the neko cafes. In the west being otaku was litterally ANYTHING from japan.
                >there have been countless anime
                Now there are way more, production of manga and anime thanks to internet and digital shit is tenfold. Quantity is not quality.

                you know what? all of them on the left were picked by me mostly randomly but i just naturally picked relatively well-known ones with romcom/girly aspects that released from roughly 70s to mid 90s
                ones on the right are shit that released in the past few years

                there were COUNTLESS slops in the 80s too, of fricking course. most of jap shit were almost completely ignored back in the day. you don't really know what you are talking about and you will keep falling for cherry picked images spammed by asiatic shills

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't really know what you are talking about
                Ok then do it again picking the "best" of modern stuff, not random. No slops, pick in your opinion the modern stuff which can go toe to toe with berserk, evangelion, ranma, battle royale, initial d, marmalade boy, slam dunk, astroboy, gundam.
                I'll wait.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >berserk, evangelion, ranma, battle royale, initial d, marmalade boy, slam dunk, astroboy, gundam.
                you really don't know what you are talking about
                you are just picking up highly-rated ones that were released in the span of 40-50 years

                it's not different that morons in 2045 would be like:
                >''lol modern otaku shit are so bad. it was SOOOO much better back then. one piece, naruto, bleach, attack on titan, frieren, baki, demon slayer, jjk, k-on, madoka, silent voice, one punch man, redline, your name, etc, etc. right? hell even hayao miyazaki was still making kino at that time''

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this man is unironically defending slop manga from the 80's

                The craziest thing about this thread is that every time some says some shit like this it reveals how much they are wholly ignorant of the history of manga. The 3 faces in the image of the post you're linking are literally stock character expressions from that era. They're artistic shorthand for when the creator doesn't have anything better to put in place. The genki girl open mouth wide eyed smile, the put upon male protagonist in pain, and the stock mischievous grin on the guy(?) in the background. The guy is even exasperatingly calling her an idiot. 40 fricking years of バカてめ!!But because you don't recognize it, it's new to you. Fricking moron.

                or maybe they have a standard now of not drawing hair highlight like a frickign zebra stripes

                >People are unironically defending modern slop like nagatoro, dragon maid or spy x family.
                This is /v alright, bad taste and being a zoomer is a status symbol here but cmon, i can hear you clawing over the mirrors from my room.
                Just concede and say "i like it even if it's trash and it will never become something worthwile remember".
                No in 2050 nobody will ever fricking remember frieren even if now is top whatever anime list but probably they will still remember love hina.
                Also you frickng know baki is from '91 right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                calm down

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no frick off and die

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's no point in presenting rational arguments to someone this fricking moronic. Do not engage further. Likely doesn't even understand what you're saying because he is an obvious ESL. Pearls before swine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >defending modern slop like nagatoro
                i'm not defending it all you moronic kimchi
                i'm just pointing out how stupid the cherry-picking images are
                >Absolutely nobody will say this
                absolutely 100% sure that there will be people like this. that's how it works. you are being so naive by totally underestimating the power of nostalgia or contrarianism if you aren't pretending to be moronic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>''lol modern otaku shit are so bad. it was SOOOO much better back then. one piece, naruto, bleach, attack on titan, frieren, baki, demon slayer, jjk, k-on, madoka, silent voice, one punch man, redline, your name, etc, etc. right? hell even hayao miyazaki was still making kino at that time
                Absolutely nobody will say this, because they'll still have Berserk and other genuinely great works to compare their slops to.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Absolutely nobody will say this
                absolutely 100% sure that there will be people like this. that's how it works. you are being so naive by totally underestimating the power of nostalgia or contrarianism if you aren't pretending to be moronic

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Modern anime manga is just romcom and "the guy is depressed and his life magically (metaforically or real magic) get better. Even if you look for a comparison over content the modern stuff will always be shit.
              Escaflowne was for the most part an isekai (basically) with a female protag, a romcom. Now find me something vaguely similar by art or contents today.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                [...]
                you know what? all of them on the left were picked by me mostly randomly but i just naturally picked relatively well-known ones with romcom/girly aspects that released from roughly 70s to mid 90s
                ones on the right are shit that released in the past few years

                there were COUNTLESS slops in the 80s too, of fricking course. most of jap shit were almost completely ignored back in the day. you don't really know what you are talking about and you will keep falling for cherry picked images spammed by asiatic shills

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >complains about "the guy is depressed"
                >praises Escaflowne when it was just "teenage girl is depressed"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The point was even it's a fricking isekai with a depressed girl hunting for boy it was drawn like an artpiece, it had a good plot which went over the romcom and it was overall better of any isekai shit from today.
                When konosuba or rezero will look like my gift, i will concede the point.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The plot was literally Hitomi gets god powers to manipulate fate and reality and she's still a whiny teenager who can't make up her mind about which fuccboi she likes, then it ends and very little gets resolved in satisfying way. The mechashit pulled the wool over your eyes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hitomi gets god powers to manipulate fate
                Not tied to the romcom.
                >it ends and very little gets resolved in satisfying way
                Personal opinion, and still the ending was not tied to the romcom.
                What was your point again?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's not romcom so that makes it good even if the plot was trash

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a personal opinion i made the point that an entire isekai and romcom anime had a plot that was entirely outside of it. Now name me something vaguely similar today, leaving the artstyle, just by the setting only.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >had a plot that was entirely outside of it
                This sounds like pretentious bullshit you just made up. Hitomi was super speshul just like the other isekai protagonists you complain about. She gets the power to manipulate reality, royal pretty boys like her, the main antagonist wants her. Her super speshul power is central to the half baked plot. I can list any trashy isekai and its plot would not be much worse.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Milestones of the genre, made by hand by talent people, remembered fondly after 40+ years.
          >FOTM modern digital anime, isekai shit with blank backgrounds and zero skill.
          Lol. Grow a culture.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Konosuba is a fun watch and Spy x Family is delightful

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DISREGARD THAT I SUCK wienerS

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to make Yor Briar a real mom

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good morning kim dong chang

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unironically this op is a korean shill who has been making the same kind of threads on Ganker as well

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mexicans
    simple as

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >stop liking what I don't like

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >40 years or more difference between the two sides
    >sharp and sudden decline

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they realized there's a lot of men who pretend to be straight, and made products for them.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >watches old samurai flicks maybe 3 times a year
    >watches anime daily
    >"why is modern japanese media so shit?"

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dude 1960s-90s Japan had just as much slop as they do now (if not worse)
    Let me give you an example, pic rel is a series called Otokowa Tsuraiyo that was hugely popular in the 70's
    Honestly the first movie is an alright feel-good movie, but just because it was fairly easy to watch for any age/gender, they pumped out whooping 49 movies out of it and they all had the same narrative structure, if that isn't a slop I don't know what is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He posted the most basic, entry level Japanese movies imaginable. Do you expect him to know any of that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Related to this, there was a series of movies called Truck Guys or Truck Rascals depending on the translation that had a very similar plot structure to this series (Except they starred truck drivers) and Toei pumped out 10 of them between 1975 and 1979. I've seen the first one and it's not like it's a bad movie but again, literally 10 movies within 4 years. All roughly based on another series that was also extremely prolific. The slop problem is not new.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, they pumped the frick out of Yakuza movies too, there were obviously good ones (Kinji Fukasaku is great), but that was like the 1% of millions of shit they squeezed throughout decades, most of them were badly choreographed violence, cliche plot, and horny
        Kind of funny how OP cries that "modern Japan" is bad by showing anime that's seemingly nothing more than wholesome, horny, and violent, when in reality back in the day they were also pumping out movies that were nothing more than wholesome, horny and violent.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wholesome, horny and violent
          I mean you can describe a lot of movies, TV shows, books, etc like this and IMO that's not even a bad thing because those are universal themes that everyone can understand. Those themes go back to Dante, Shakespeare, and even the older sagas. Achilles starts having issues with Agamemnon at the start of the Iliad because Agamemnon takes his favorite war-bride. Enkidu stops being able to talk with animals after he fricks a hot chick from the city. The problem is what you say, when these themes are explored through movies rushed out as fast as possible to capitalize on a trend and as such have cliched plots and badly directed scenes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How the frick they managed to do 49 movies of a single series? I mean even with an inhumane rythm of 2 a year its 24 years of movies? Didn't the actors aged?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You underestimate the power of the slop conveyor belt, anon. Aging actors? Whatever, just replace em. Script? Not a problem, just take the same premise/plot and put it in a different location. Filming time? 1, maybe 2 takes max per scene. We're on a tight time table, we've got to make 2-3 of these a year. The actors/directors are just happy to have a job, they'll make whatever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They sometimes made 3 a year, the main actor also dedicated his life to playing the protagonist

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly? Cancer apart, it's a life worth spent.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the zatoichi movies are gold EACH AND EVERY ONE

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anime was a good thing and the only problem is (You)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >brainrotted anime-loving loser can't even express his thoughts without memes
      Sasuga

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's also thousands of "romance movies" that was either a mundane soap opera or fifty shades of grey, targeted towards bored house wives
    Don't romanticize a past that you've never lived in. Shit things from the past doesn't get mentioned now because they were shit, not because the past didn't have shit things

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    right mogs left

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dogshit taste.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        jus like mexicans and their slop

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We're not talking about shounenshit you braindead moron (not that moeshit is any better).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and we are not talking le fotm isekai you mindbroken idiot (and i'm serious)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Good, because I don't watch any of that dogshit (thank God).

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Old anime is so much better it's insane. We'll never have another Satoshi Kon ever again.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KINO on the right

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jojo most likely mogs your favourite anime.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i liked gundam seed but i can't say i'm a mecha gay , other mecha anime i remember i liked was soukyuu no fafner
      i wouldn't call Eva mecha

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why wypipo always scapegoat, what does brazil and mexico have to do with any of this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've always seen many starter packs but nothing of a decade's milestone list. So here. Here's a 2000s baseline list

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Toradora
        >Lucky Star
        >Eureka Seven
        God help you

        >No Fruits Basket
        >No FLCL
        >No Paranoia Agent
        >No Samurai Champloo
        >No Boogiepop Phantom
        >No Nodame Cantabile
        >No Kaiji
        >No Ouran
        >No FMA
        >No Azumanga Daiou
        Make it make sense already!!!!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I will never recommend Ouran or Fruits Basket over Lucky Star or Toradora. You can watch those but those didn't define the 2000s in a storm. When Toradora was still running, even IN THIS VERY SITE it was debated to be the best love story ever told in anime unironically.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sure. People were stupid back then.
            That said if you want to talk about THIS VERY SITE you'd still need to include the ones I listed over stuff like Ergo Proxy or Wolfs Rain

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Even Azumanga Daiou, I'd recommend you just read the manga over the show despite its cultural relevance in the internet.
              >people were stupid back then
              Nah, Toradora is a masterclass in writing a romance novel that has excellent buildup with a satisfying closure. It's premise may not be anything new but its executed with precision.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Toradora is a masterclass in writing a romance novel that has excellent buildup with a satisfying closure.
                I strongly disagree. It was a product of its time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >product of its time
                Yes, an excellent product of the 2000s.
                You also recommended FMA when Brotherhood is considered to be the more definitive run of the show which was already at the tail end of the 2000s and would technically count as a 2010s anime.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Brotherhood is considered to be the more definitive run of the show
                Sure, I guess. But FMA 2001 is absolutely worth watching even if you think Brotherhood is better, much moreso than Lucky Star ffs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Monster starts strong and totally loses it's momentum by the halfway mark, i agree with the rest of these though. Except wolfrain

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This might be the worst "starter pack" I've ever seen.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Yasujiro Ozu on the "good" side
    >Slice of life anime on the "bad" side
    I don't understand this logic

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Filmbros what is the movie in the far left column second down? I've been going through a shitload of Kurosawa-era films lately and I don't notice this scene.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey guys OP here ignore my post i suck wieners btw hmu

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters

      Made by an American and banned in Japan

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not a single jap apart from the director's wife

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The movie itself weaves in a lot of material from Yukio Mishima's writings but yeah it's a pretty American movie overall. Not sure why it's included with entirely Japanese movies though, other than being about a famous Japanese guy.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here he is, the japan expert

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey man I've watched more anime than you

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Implying Frieren is on the same level as all those generic moeshits and Chainsaw Man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is both the same mexicrap

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /film/ dropping by to tell you the source of all those films for no particular reason
    From left to right, top to bottom:
    Ikiru , Seven Samurai
    The Face of Another , Harakiri
    Tokyo Story , Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters
    Ran , Battle Royale
    Akira , Perfect Blue

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks sempai.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day tourist

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frieren and Chainsaw Man don't have anything in common with the shows on the right

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is just another discord raid from trannies that want us to hate anime.
    Reminder that anime is filled with things they cannot be.
    Beauty.
    Wonder.
    Fantasy.
    Culture.
    Individuality.
    Curiosity.
    Perfection.

    Disregard anime haters, and dividers.
    They are the enemy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trannies love anime though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They love the idea of anime, not anime itself. That's why they need to change it constantly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm trans and I love anime. wtf are you even on

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im trans and i love anime and japan

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DA TRANNIES ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOU DISLIKE CRINGE MOESHIT FOR 10 YEAR OLD GIRLS, SUBHUMAN EMBARRASSING HAREM ISEKAI SHIT, AND BRAINDEAD SHONENSHIT FOR LITERALLY 12 YEAR OLD BOYS!
      You are a grown-ass man and watch this shit. How do you not go everyday without believing you're not below human? I bet a 9 year old could beat your ass.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if you have low-effort modern anime you're a discord troony
    What is this moronation? Grow some fricking standards.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk, man. I think you can well enjoy newish stuff if you find the right show. I too don't enjoy moeshit but still like a handful newer shows.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >80s
    anime is a medium to tell a story
    >2020s
    anime is a product to sell to lonely men

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Considering how popular Isekai is, I can see that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was 20 in the 90's and i read everything on the left and more (except the 7th from the top left, that i have no idea). The stuff on the left has various genre and it's extremely clear is drawn by different people and has different themes.
      The shit on the right looks like copy pasted shit. Yeah the drawing is different but a man who didn't read anything on the right can point out where the plot is "an average self insert has an harembitchytimid girl but in the end he get her". Which is the majority of the shit on the right.
      Over styles and drawing... are we really arguing about the drawing traits of clamp, or the author of patlabour or toyrama to... whoever drawn nagatoro or konosuba? Please.
      Only relevant shit is chainsaw man because it had a budget but, guess what, it was just and edgy show easily forgotten after a month. Spy x family goes on because people have shitty life and they are cool with a family story. The two yakuzas with a kid was EXTREMELY better than sxf but they didn't have a cute mascotte so whatever.

      midnight otaku anime didn't even exist in the 80s
      people just pick up some watchable anime from 30-40 years ago and talk about how those are better than the current slop
      of course there were some good shit in the 80s. there have been countless anime

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >midnight otaku anime didn't even exist in the 80s
        Because otaku was something different it were the people obsessed on building gundam action figures or going to the neko cafes. In the west being otaku was litterally ANYTHING from japan.
        >there have been countless anime
        Now there are way more, production of manga and anime thanks to internet and digital shit is tenfold. Quantity is not quality.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GO TO Ganker IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANIME, YOU STUPID homosexual.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    people's knowledge about japanese things tend to be utterly biased and it really changes with the times
    that's why go*ks like this op try to gaslight you and it works unfortunately

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like both styles. However, I will say I very much dislike romcom "will they, won't they" bullshit that exists only to milk chapters. Isekai is a million times better than that slop.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dude is anybody else a sophisticated male like me who only enjoys high brow arthouse elevated slow burn media like myself I hate that romance and comedy junk that's for girls I truly was born in the wrong generation *tips fedora*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you watch anything other than garbage slop like me you’re a pretentious arthouse enjoying fedora tipping snob
      great job outing yourself as a moron lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, those Akira Kurosawa samurai movies? (And most Samurai movies of that time) Samurai Slop, there I said it, get better taste. The face of another? Read the book.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >holy shit all isekai are the one trick pony

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh man I miss the 90's I was born in the wrong generation

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Try watching an average Japanese movie or anime from the 1970s
    The fact that we only remember classics doesn't mean Japan only produced classics. Most shit that comes out today will also be completely forgotten in 2050

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Most shit that comes out today will also be completely forgotten in 2050
      Nothing lasts today. Everyone even normies know about sailor moon or captain tsubasa. Every major animemanga moment in the last 20's it's a fotm, at best. Copied and stomped over its clones the moment the trend keeps going (isekai, family romcom etc).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The top show on My Anime List is literally Sousou no Frieren, and the top 20 anime are 90% shows from the last 20 years. The other 10% is Gintama, which ended in 2021 but has been airing for decades. It's hard to know what "normies" think (By the way, it's normalgay, this isn't twitter) but you definitely can't see the future. You have no idea what will get swept away and what will be remembered. And stop using buzzwords, talk like a fricking human being.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Check MAL's top 200 in terms of popularity, at least 80% is occupied by shows made past 2010 and more than 95% shows made past 2000
        And genuinely, when was the last you heard someone talk about Captain Tsubasa or Sailor Moon? Yeah, maybe people around our age know them because they used to watch them on TV as kids, but zoomers don't have that kind of attachment and while they most likely recognize Sailor Moon's design I can guarantee you very few of them had actually watched the show

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you are going to use romcom as a comparison, compare it with romcom from the 80's

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fun fact is i can tell that thing in your pic is drawn by a person, almost all the stuff in the right side of the manga pic could have been done by an AI for the level of skill i can see. All samefaced characters, no distinctive traits, no work on dresses, no details at all, 12 colors palette at best.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this man is unironically defending slop manga from the 80's

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The craziest thing about this thread is that every time some says some shit like this it reveals how much they are wholly ignorant of the history of manga. The 3 faces in the image of the post you're linking are literally stock character expressions from that era. They're artistic shorthand for when the creator doesn't have anything better to put in place. The genki girl open mouth wide eyed smile, the put upon male protagonist in pain, and the stock mischievous grin on the guy(?) in the background. The guy is even exasperatingly calling her an idiot. 40 fricking years of バカてめ!!But because you don't recognize it, it's new to you. Fricking moron.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        or maybe they have a standard now of not drawing hair highlight like a frickign zebra stripes

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dragon maid is great

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    from nuclear and WW2 trauma to modern days problems.
    Media just evolve with people producing it.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What caused such a sharp and sudden decline in quality in japanese games & media in the recent years?

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont even need to read the thread to know this is a seething asiatic or chink tard

    Enjoy your gacha slop dicklet

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im still mad at the homosexuals from a for pretending that kaguya sama manga was worth reading

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What caused such a fantastic and sudden increase in quality in japanese games & media in the recent years?
    unironically le creativity feat. doing what you truly love and want without fear.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    akira is one of the worst anime I've ever seen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's actually kanokari

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are comparing 50 years of Japanese media to 10 years of anime

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It wouldn't be very hard to make a list of like 5 years of 80s anime that mog all of the FOTM on the right.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It wouldn't be very hard to find 16 shows from the 80s that were pure slop.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you guys romanticize this period of anime so much? You realize there was a lot of Slop made in the 80's too right? And no, just because it's old and obscure doesn't make those shows "Hidden gems"

          True but most of that slop wasn't even notable or popular for it's time, also there are a shitload more anime being produced every year than there was back then. There should be far more quality anime coming out today than there were back then but there isn't. It's not like today where every season has over 30 shows airing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >True but most of that slop wasn't even notable or popular for it's time
            Because there was no internet.
            > also there are a shitload more anime being produced every year than there was back then.
            Yeah, and we still only get to see the good ones, do you know how many generic isekai are there? Or how many Romcoms? There is a lot things flooding the market, but the ones surfacing to the top are about the same as it was 40 years ago.
            >There should be far more quality anime coming out today than there were back then but there isn't.
            Thats really subjective, in the 80s there were a lot of shows about idols and space shit that was influenced by star wars, I could say the same thing about those shows and how there is no quality anime anymore.

            I'd say One Piece is pretty popular in the west. It's not Dragon Ball Z tier but still pretty well-known. I imagine that's why Netflix is doing so much with the series, they know it's going to be popular.

            [...]
            Also important to note that Miyazaki is a misanthropic, grumpy old man that walked out on his own son's directorial debut. I'm not sure he likes anything except directing, hence why he's "retired" like 10 times now. He's on record as saying he wishes Japan would get poorer so people would die off and nature would reclaim the country. There are valid criticisms of anime but it could be perfect and Miyazaki would still find something to complain about.

            Kinda based in an ironic way.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you guys romanticize this period of anime so much? You realize there was a lot of Slop made in the 80's too right? And no, just because it's old and obscure doesn't make those shows "Hidden gems"

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder American's are still the king of cinema

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >weaboos try to justify their ohhh so brased tastes
      >gets blown the frick out by some burger director from 20 years ago
      MANY such cases

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese investors that are trying to appeal to Westerners hoping theyll make more money
    When they dont realize the woke westerners are only like 2% of a demographic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Woketards would find most on the right to be problematic in one way or another, and if manga artists (a lot on the right are manga adaptations) bow to wokeshit, nobody would read their work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure buddy...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you really trying to pretend that dicky ninjas is a woke anime? Or the multiple shows which feature romance and sometimes sex between teenagers? Or the shows with the female lead having big breasts?

          Even the picture you just posted includes adaptations of very old works (Battle Tendency as woke, really?) and one story that will feature the male lead practicing polygamy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you trying to pretend that crying men and dominant women and cross-dressing and immodesty aren't woke? Are you so fricking brain melted that "teenage romance" is anti-woke when all of pozzed western media centers on it?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cross dressing and homosexual behavior has been a gag in older anime (and even older american cartoons) for a long time. You can legitimately complain about Cuckren but you destroyed your point by generalizing.
              >immodesty
              Black person shut the frick up even Doraemon has upskirts and full frontal nudity at times. Anime isn't for you, either modern anime nor older anime.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically Copying America.
    >American shows are split into X episode seasons
    >American shows favor adaptions of books
    >copy this
    >Make 12 episode "seasons" of light novel trash so you don't have to finish anything
    >Do the same with shonen shit for years with season 2-3-4-5-6 etc

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Those black and white samurai movies
    >A western company makes a game that captures the feel of them better than anything Japan can do
    >It was so accurate to the feel that Japan got salty they didn't make one first
    Weeaboos beat the frick out.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the economic bubble burst, that is your explanation

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that this is an anime site and by extension a trans right supporting site

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Barrier to entry is lower meaning there’s more junk on the market but that doesn’t mean there isn’t good stuff either

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >more junk on the market
      Is there really though? There is a good reason only a couple of old shows are usually recommended for people to watch.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is one of those things that's hard to really answer definitively because if you go back and look at older anime seasons, you can see some really incredible years overall, but there's a lot of chaff right along side it. For example, Cowboy Bebop aired in Spring 1998, alongside such greats as Trigun, Yugioh, Initial D, and Card Captor Sakura. But it also ran alongside something called Brain Powered. And Sentimental Journey. And Futarigurashi. And so on and so on. Are those shows bad? Are they good? I have no fricking idea, I've never seen em. But this mass of "Never seen em, never heard of em" shows that aired alongside beloved classics exists for basically every season you can think of. But you can't expect someone to sit through all the anime from 1998 to see if it compares positively or negatively to all the anime from 2023.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Brain Powerd is great despite the wonky animation, I would only recommend it someone who has watched a few other Tomino anime beforehand though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that's my point right like there could be a lot of hidden gems in those old seasons but I have no way of knowing because no one ever really talks about them.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mishima isn't even a Japanese movie. It was written and directed by Paul Schrader and financed by Coppola and George Lucas. It bombed hard in Japan because nobody refuses to acknowledge Mishima as an author anymore. Also sucking off Kurosawa isn't proving your point there are tons of movies from the 60s alone that were way more experimental and just as influential.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Decline?
    That's an upgrade

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe if you homosexuals would stop CONSOOMING isekai all day long, none of this would have happened.

    But no, homosexuals like you love your "escapism" crap and continue to watch shitty isekai.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At least post the good Kurosawa.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Found the seething racist westoid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >acknowledging that modern Japanese entertainment isn't good as it was used to be makes you a racist
      Enjoy your demakes moron.

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