What killed Fire Emblem?

What killed Fire Emblem?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fe12, the thread is now over

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pivot from sprite-work and quality maps being like puzzles to solve

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fates killed FE. Awakening was still acceptable.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smash bros

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Awakening crippled the oldfags. Fates killed them. Echoes attempted to revive them, but Three Houses intervened, double tapping and replacing the oldfags with Nu-Fire Emblem chuds and schizos.

    Then Three Hopes came out, both betraying and crippling the 3housefags for no reason because the devs are psychotic. Now Xenoverse 3 came out and has led the remaining sane FEfags away to harem paradise. FE todayis only left with chuds, schizos, masochists and gachamorons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Three Hopes came out, both betraying and crippling the 3housefags for no reason because the devs are psychotic
      uuu... g-give him back to me...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, after 3 hopes I want this series to sink for fucking good. I want the devs that made the game to actively go bankrupt and never have a job IN story writing again.

        [...]
        three hopes basically shits on any die-hard fan of houses by completely neglecting it's golden route. It took all of it's characters and made an insane AU where Claude murders Rhea, makes himself King of Leicester and everyone bows down to him, no questions asked. The other routes are subjective. If you liked Edelgard, you'll like her in her route. If you liked Dimitri, you'll like him in his route. But you will absolutely DESPISE the opposing route of what you chose if you decide to play them.
        Also the new self-insert they put in is uninspired and honestly just feels like a dev's deviantart OC put in the game. I had to play as the girl to make the game somewhat bearable because the boy was just too on the nose as a purple haired kirito. They're basically a shounen protag who can beat everyone in single combat all at once (seriously, they make it into a paralogue where the mock battle is just the new protag against all three classes.)

        LOL

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, after 3 hopes I want this series to sink for fucking good. I want the devs that made the game to actively go bankrupt and never have a job IN story writing again.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        TLDR on three hopes?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So in Houses each lord, for better or worse, had a very clear thing that they wanted or were working through. For Edelgard it's reclaiming all that land lost through a millennium of w[REDACTED] Putting an end to the behind the scenes conflict between 2 ancient races that enabled the Crest system and all the tragedy that goes with it. For Dimitri it was finding his family's killers. And for Claude it was finding the secrets of Fodlan so that he can broker peace between the two nations that birthed him. By and large this is what the characters want and the specifics of how they get to that goal vary based on route.

          Hopes is... different. We get a lot of extra information that's really good but the reactions of the leaders comes off as strange in the best of times and fucking retarded at the worst of times. For example Dimitri was never a particularly devout believer in the church in Houses. But he didn't have a problem with the church either, he defended them because it was the right thing to do and because he was under the impression that the Empire murdered his family so enemy of my enemy. That's mostly retained in Hopes but in a private conversation with Claude he reveals that he actually personally agrees with Claude that the church should die. And we'll get to Claude in a minute but bear in mind: he's having this conversation with Claude and Edelgard AFTER they killed several Blue Lions. He wanted to burn down all of Enbarr because he thought they killed his mother. He should be losing his shit at this point. Speaking of Claude, Claude never trusted the church but he was the most even handed Lord in Houses. He at least wanted to hear Rhea out. But in Hopes he's Edelgard but with even less reasoning. He wants to kill Rhea just to see what the world would look like without her. That's the reason. Remember how Claude randomly killing everyone in Grondor Field made no sense? That's canon now. He just didn't give a fuck so everyone gets to die.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I got the professor got cucked or something like the waifus getting canon lovers

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah that's sort of a thing but not really. There isn't really shipping in Hopes. Most you get if a couple flirtatious lines but nothing like what was in other games. There are some weirdos that self insert into Byleth so the fact that they're presented as the antagonist for 2/3rds of the game means they don't get that much room for shipping. But that doesn't stop those people from being viciously angry that their self insert can't fuck their waifu from the alternate timeline in Houses. Which makes about as much sense as people being angry that Claude isn't gay or that Ingrid not being bi or otherwise not wanting to fuck Dorothea means she's homophobic. The game has way more legitimate problems. Shipping is way lower on the priority list.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Echoes was fucking brilliant why does noone talk about it anymore?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was actually good. But the oldfags are a silent minority within the community so they enjoyed it in peace. Meanwhile the nu-feshitters couldn't comprehend the kino involved since no waifus/breeding.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking awful NES game design and the few changes they did make made the game even worse somehow.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Echoes was good. The dungeons were actually more fun than I thought they would be.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fatesfags make discussing it impossible.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Map design sucked, most characters weren't all that notable (though the ones that stood out were really good), and the story isn't complex enough to warrant continuous threads. There's only so much to talk about when the only two outstanding parts of your game are the art and music.
        It's a blessing in disguise when discussion for an FE game actually dies down here instead of carrying on as a lifeless corpse reanimated and paraded around by autistic ritualposters.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's good and has no shipping gayry, there's nothing to shitpost about

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, after 3 hopes I want this series to sink for fucking good. I want the devs that made the game to actively go bankrupt and never have a job IN story writing again.

      Still haven't play it
      Wut happened?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        edelrape

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        three hopes basically shits on any die-hard fan of houses by completely neglecting it's golden route. It took all of it's characters and made an insane AU where Claude murders Rhea, makes himself King of Leicester and everyone bows down to him, no questions asked. The other routes are subjective. If you liked Edelgard, you'll like her in her route. If you liked Dimitri, you'll like him in his route. But you will absolutely DESPISE the opposing route of what you chose if you decide to play them.
        Also the new self-insert they put in is uninspired and honestly just feels like a dev's deviantart OC put in the game. I had to play as the girl to make the game somewhat bearable because the boy was just too on the nose as a purple haired kirito. They're basically a shounen protag who can beat everyone in single combat all at once (seriously, they make it into a paralogue where the mock battle is just the new protag against all three classes.)

        So in Houses each lord, for better or worse, had a very clear thing that they wanted or were working through. For Edelgard it's reclaiming all that land lost through a millennium of w[REDACTED] Putting an end to the behind the scenes conflict between 2 ancient races that enabled the Crest system and all the tragedy that goes with it. For Dimitri it was finding his family's killers. And for Claude it was finding the secrets of Fodlan so that he can broker peace between the two nations that birthed him. By and large this is what the characters want and the specifics of how they get to that goal vary based on route.

        Hopes is... different. We get a lot of extra information that's really good but the reactions of the leaders comes off as strange in the best of times and fucking retarded at the worst of times. For example Dimitri was never a particularly devout believer in the church in Houses. But he didn't have a problem with the church either, he defended them because it was the right thing to do and because he was under the impression that the Empire murdered his family so enemy of my enemy. That's mostly retained in Hopes but in a private conversation with Claude he reveals that he actually personally agrees with Claude that the church should die. And we'll get to Claude in a minute but bear in mind: he's having this conversation with Claude and Edelgard AFTER they killed several Blue Lions. He wanted to burn down all of Enbarr because he thought they killed his mother. He should be losing his shit at this point. Speaking of Claude, Claude never trusted the church but he was the most even handed Lord in Houses. He at least wanted to hear Rhea out. But in Hopes he's Edelgard but with even less reasoning. He wants to kill Rhea just to see what the world would look like without her. That's the reason. Remember how Claude randomly killing everyone in Grondor Field made no sense? That's canon now. He just didn't give a fuck so everyone gets to die.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nu-FE is the best

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i think the real question is what made Ganker start seething over Fire Emblem. It's a toss up between Awakening, TMS, and Smash.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why a strategy game needs dating sim mechanics?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cause its fun downtime in between long difficult maps. Are you retarded?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heroes
    Ironic Weeb Culture
    Persona being the gold standard of Japan

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Enter Cheese

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If anything, FE still hasn't kneeled to the globohomos yet.
    FE is still alive, the day FE dies is if the male protagonist can S-rank any guys.
    Three Houses was based for having gays getting kekked with their "gay" S-ranks where one of them tell you that fucking a rando FEMALE villager is better than being a degenerate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      keep telling yourself this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Still hasn't happened and it never will.
        Fire Emblem and Intelligent Systems are the last bastion of normalcy to the increasing globohomofication of Nintendo

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the aesthetics are so faggy it makes no difference, you might as well have a dildo in ass if you unironically enjoy this shit by this point. fire emblem died at 11.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FE still hasn't kneeled to the globohomos yet.
      >3H
      >Fanservice in very low quantities
      >Can only romance adults
      >Zero "problematic" content
      I am not saying the game is "pozzed" per se, but it´s clear the were aiming to fit with "western sensibilities" with this one.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FE still hasn't kneeled to the globohomos yet
        There's like dozen homos in 3h, what are you talking about

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Meant for

          If anything, FE still hasn't kneeled to the globohomos yet.
          FE is still alive, the day FE dies is if the male protagonist can S-rank any guys.
          Three Houses was based for having gays getting kekked with their "gay" S-ranks where one of them tell you that fucking a rando FEMALE villager is better than being a degenerate.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Homos aren't inherently bad, they're not drag/butch tier homos, and they're never pushed to be homo in your face. In fact, Ingrid actually shutdown down Dorothea hard in their support convos and most of the gay male scenes are "let's be best buds, no homo bro".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would honestly rather have drag/butch homos than the bland bisexuals fire emblem games love to churn out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Male Corrin can S rank Niles thought

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personafags killed Fire Emblem.
    They infested their bullshit into it, and it just seeped from there.
    So Awakening if you want to blame something FE related

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, it's just stuck in a weird spot where the mobile game isn't has stupidly popular as it once was and it taking 3 fucking years for a spinoff title.
    Toothpaste-chan will kick the series back up again.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how bad is it that I unironically like this design

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Her design is hot regardless of what color scheme she has

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you help me understand why we're in this shit hole state of an industry

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        awakening was the best fire emblem

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They couldn't figure out how to expand on their war simulator so they decided to pander to otakus instead.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends, how boomer/contrarian are you?
    >2 for shit map designs
    >4 for introducing waifushit
    >6 because Kaga left
    >7 because muh self insert
    >8 because where's the difficulty
    >9 for being slow/ugly/poorly selling
    >10 poorly selling
    >11-12 for being ugly and poorly selling
    >Awakening for being a swansong game packed to the brim with waifushit, various features from previous games, and nostalgia fan service
    >Fates for being even worse waifushit because the plot and dialogue was outsourced to the smelliest and least literate weeb on DeviantArt they could find
    >Echoes because where's my waifushit
    >3 houses because fujo artist, rushed development, and lukewarm map design

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      11 and 12 should be separate as 11 is actually good

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I honestly think they're both good, 12's lunatic difficulty was the wildest ride I've had playing the series. I know that 12 had the start of the egregious my unit wankery but I found that ok because 11's hard 5 runs canonized Marth as being an impotent scrub in my head.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting how you ignore that Awakening also has dogshit maps that are just as bad as FE2. Literally just giant, blank squares where you route the enemy. The maps that aren't empty squares have the most simple of basic design.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its integrity? Awakening, attempting to pander to the waifu crowd.
    Financially? Never been better, due to the aforementioned pandering. FEH is more profitable than the entirety of the mainline series, solely due to PNGs of women in swimsuits

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was me, I did it.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't played anything past awakening, all the new ones look like they were made for a female audience. Toothpaste-chan looks cool.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Awakening. It "saved" the series by pandering to the lowest level gayry possible.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't this end up being some Chinese mobage?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So this leak was actually legit? Who the fuck would okay this dogshit design?

      We still don't know what's coming out of this. Personally I think it's 100% real, but there's a chance that it isn't actually a Fire Emblem game.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So this leak was actually legit? Who the fuck would okay this dogshit design?

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I think it was the greater focus on character customization and twinking with reclassing and per-class growth rates and more skills, people already would reset if they got characters killed even though there are others on the bench + the game will throw more at you later but now the games are like totally "carried" by their characters in the eyes of many while making things more difficult to balance due to the plethora of player choices. Doubt they will go backwards from here though, kind of crossed the event-horizon.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Loved the gameplay of Conquest but I skip through the story as much as possible or else it will make me want to stop playing. It is fucking horrible. Echoes had a top tier artstyle, and the music was good and dungeons were fun. Never touched Three Houses because the artstyle looks like shit and it looks like it focuses too much on character relationships.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They literally turned the series into Persona
    If you don't think ALL future sequels will follow the Three Houses blueprint you're insane

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get what's so wrong about being able to customize your units. Maybe some people like theory crafting teams? They all have "canon" roles that they ask to get trained in by default anyway.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is that, by giving the players so much freedom to customize their roster, they now have to design the maps and mission objectives so that essentially any roster composition could beat it. The end result is that almost every map across all 4 routes plays the same, and the rare times when your comp might make a difference, it's only for an optional secondary objective anyway.

        The DLC campaign in Three Houses greatly restricted the customization options you had for your squad, and it allowed them to make each mission much more unique because they could anticipate what tools the player would have to work with.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, I understand that logic.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No harems. MU should be able to S-rank with all the chicks while all the other male characters are genderswapped so MU(Male Unit) has a massive harem. He will fuck all of his daughters too.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Koei Tecmo.
    And I am not talking about Three Copes, I am talking about the original 3H. It´s the most uninspired game I have played on this franchise.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't FE alive? was the musou that bad?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it is, Ganker just doesn't like it because it's popular, if one of several series that completely breaks the board.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its one of several series that completely breaks the board.

        That's just any game, you can't have a thread about vidya anymore. The children of Jihad was boring.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Awakening crippled the oldfags. Fates killed them. Echoes attempted to revive them, but Three Houses intervened, double tapping and replacing the oldfags with Nu-Fire Emblem chuds and schizos.

      Then Three Hopes came out, both betraying and crippling the 3housefags for no reason because the devs are psychotic. Now Xenoverse 3 came out and has led the remaining sane FEfags away to harem paradise. FE todayis only left with chuds, schizos, masochists and gachamorons.

      three hopes basically shits on any die-hard fan of houses by completely neglecting it's golden route. It took all of it's characters and made an insane AU where Claude murders Rhea, makes himself King of Leicester and everyone bows down to him, no questions asked. The other routes are subjective. If you liked Edelgard, you'll like her in her route. If you liked Dimitri, you'll like him in his route. But you will absolutely DESPISE the opposing route of what you chose if you decide to play them.
      Also the new self-insert they put in is uninspired and honestly just feels like a dev's deviantart OC put in the game. I had to play as the girl to make the game somewhat bearable because the boy was just too on the nose as a purple haired kirito. They're basically a shounen protag who can beat everyone in single combat all at once (seriously, they make it into a paralogue where the mock battle is just the new protag against all three classes.)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        TLDR on three hopes?

        meant for this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >makes himself King of Leicester and everyone bows down to him
        Why do people keep saying this? The political bickering of the Leicester Alliance during wartime was detrimental as they had to convene and argue about every move to make. It's brought up a few times by several different characters in Golden Wildfire.

        And him making himself King? The other 4 houses voted him to lead.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AIIIEEEEEE NOT MY HECKIN RHEARINOOOOOO!!!!
        Rheachuds are pathetic lmfao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >neglecting it's golden route
        I saw peope shitposting for months that you'd need to buy the golden route in another game and now people are shitting on it for not? lmao

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FE is more alive than ever. Cope, Kagafags

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It died as soon as you were able to self insert.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How's that a bad thing?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FE is more alive than ever. But the direction is heading in seems more RPG focused than tactics focused which disappoints me. I can get my more traditional FE fix from romhacks and fangames though so it isn't the end of the world.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i like the caveman from canadia hack

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RPG focus as in level up like most FE

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's fire emblem? Haven't been following 3hopes so I always thought it was some shitty design from xenoblade chronicles.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HILDA! HILDA! HILDA!

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So wait this is a leaked image from like 2 months ago right?
    Did we ever find out more?

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. Amazing sprites became awful 3D models.
    2. Sold-out for more sales. Losts its dignity.
    3. Starting with RD and Awakening characters became one dimensional meme units instead of being either really interesting characters with revealing supports or being backround units with almost no dialog.
    4. English translators became egotistical fags who think they know better and can change anything and everything with no respect for the source material.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait which games got translation fucked?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hes referring to fates

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit why is her hair so fucking long?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The design philosophy seems to be "let's make Nahobino but even more obnoxious looking"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i thought this shit was fake but after the new pokemon "designs" i can totally see this being a real leak

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So when's the next FE announcement bros?

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nothing. toothpaste's game will be amazing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they turn the fruit roll-up into an anime girl?

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These days, I can't help but wonder what 'Golden Route-phobe's' reaction was to Hopes when it released.
    For those who didn't know: some anon was shitting on Hopes every time it was mentioned after reveal, so cocksure were they that it was a 'golden route' that would 'invalidate all the stakes that we put on the line in Houses', and that it should be boycotted.
    Well...I mean, it was far from a perfect game, but it sure as hell wasn't a golden route(though it did shit on Houses in a lot of ways).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would have rather had a golden route than the character assasination buffet that was Hopes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough, though I still think calling it a 'character assassination' is a stretch. I just looked at it all as a 'convenient butterfly effect'. Not the worst story mechanic that's been used in media.
        Perhaps if ANYONE got character assassinated, it would be Sothis. That was a surprising change.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Three Hopes ruined Claude which made a lot of fans boycott the series

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No FE4 remake while pushing to wake culture shit

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What killed Fire Emblem?
    Popularity

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The more I see this, the more I think it's just missing textures than actually the red and blue color scheme.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when they fired the original creator. if you get rid of the creator of something it's fundamentally not the same series anymore. it doesn't help that with every release afterwards they keep changing the dev team's structure so it's not even the same series with the people making it changing every game

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What killed Fire Emblem?
    Persona

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lysi...won...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I bought all 6

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