What killed the hype?

What killed the hype?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Base game was shit (FFT is better) and the remake will be shit again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      FFT is basically a far weaker tactics ogre in every aspect and was mostly developed by the same guys as an entry game with a linear story for a new / young generation of players.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(FFT is better)

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Still getting it day one, but I already played the PSP version so this feels a bit redundant. Games pacing is really bad at points, but I do love the characters.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you seen that shit? It's just the PSP game with a fugly super eagle filter slapped on that you can find in any emulator. Reborn my ass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know why they keep doing this shit in remasters, grandia 1 looks like shit for the same reason.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The thing with the Granida HD at least is that the sprites are literally just filtered sprites that replace the originals as a mod. In Grandia HD you can literally just delete the files for the new sprites and have the old sprites.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just play the SNES version holy shit this looks awful

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand what's supposed to be wrong with this image.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >zoomers spend so much time looking at filtered photos on social media that they can't comprehend how ugly smear filters are on pixel art
        Jesus wept.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          these sprites just look like higher res versions of the shit psp sprites to me

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Can you seriously not see all the vaseline smearing of all the pixels?

            new one looks just as ugly as the pixel version tbh

            No, it's far uglier.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I seriously can't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                here's a direct comparison
                PSP https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY0hxqSWAAQmoca.jpg:large
                reborn https://assets.reedpopcdn.com/Tactics-Ogre1.jpg/BROK/resize/1200x1200%3E/format/jpg/quality/70/Tactics-Ogre1.jpg

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Looks the same to me senpai

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i know, i've played the psp version countless times. the sprites look disgusting on large screens/resolutions.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                okay so if you want higher resolution sprites then get an artist to actually draw higher res sprites rather than running the sprites through a smoothing filter

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not my job to do that. Sprites look good to me in reborn.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's because you have no standards or are visually impaired.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >standards
                I don't much guve a shit about the sprites when the portraits look just as good and the gameplay seems a 100 times better

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the sprites look just as good
                They look like smeared filtered throwup.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Reading comprehension retard kun...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nvm i had a stroke. But saying "i don't care about sprites" when the sprites are literally 99% of the game's visuals indicates that you have no standards.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't give a shit since the gameplay is better, I'm not autistic enough to let something that inconsequential turn me away from the game

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >all of the visuals looking like smeared ass is inconsequential.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >trying to pass your opinion as fact when you're the only schizo samefagging about it itt

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >samefagging.
                I'm just agreeing with what

                Have you seen that shit? It's just the PSP game with a fugly super eagle filter slapped on that you can find in any emulator. Reborn my ass.

                said. So no you have multiple people saying the same thing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Quoting yourself
                Embarrassing tbh

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if i accuse you of samefagging that makes me right! It can't possibly be that multiple people disagree with me!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Rich from the schizo calling everyone excited for the new game a shill

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Rich from the schizo calling everyone excited for the new game a shill
                I never called anyone a shill. Is the concept of an anonymous image board really lost on you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the tactics ogre sprites are at least smaller/farther away, so the blur isn't as bad for me anyway. It might look awful on my 55" tv though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the tactics ogre sprites are at least smaller/farther away
                They're all roughly the same size as the Chrono Trigger ones. I assume you're posting from a phone or something because on a computer monitor the problem is blatantly clear.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It looks like a filter from an emulator but it looks fine from a distance to me

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it's very clearly some kind of computer upscaling to the sprites that makes them look filtered. They're very clearly not redrawn by hand and it looks pretty shitty.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I never said they were redrawn though, just that they look higher res. I wouldn't want the original tiny ass sprites blown out and displayed at 4K, that'd look fucking disgusting.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >it's very clearly some kind of computer upscaling to the sprites that makes them look filtered.
              you genuinely don't know what you're talking about. If your computer upscale can do this, then you have a 100 million dollars algorithm and I want to invest in it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Soulless vs soul

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Damn your example looks really good.
                Shame that not everyone can look as good.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          new one looks just as ugly as the pixel version tbh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1. You are on Ganker
        2. Ganker doesn't play games
        3. You are supposed to pretend that you played original and how everything new us souless

        There. I just described 94% of users to you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >people aren't allowed to have standards because... well because you should just be happy we can play it at all now!
          >even though you can emulate PSP perfectly for over a decade now
          remasters were a fucking mistake

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The PSP version is fucking dogshit though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you actually saw the preview you'd know the gameplay is what got a huge improvement overhaul but that'd be assuming you're anything but a low effort shitposter who has in probably never played TO at all

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Feel free to have any standards and pretend that you played original. I will play this remaster, and post my screenshots just to make you angry.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The PSP version is already a remaster. Emulate the SNES version, zoomer.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes let me grind anatomy and augment for 10 hours again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just get angry when you are told to

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The fonts were "modernized" (no more soulful gothic typefaces), the sprites were "modernized" (no more dated pixels) and the ethics department will make sure the story is "modernized" (war crimes? rapes? anti-democracy? misogyny aka not treating some cunt like god's gift to earth in a political backstabbing theatre? all gone)

      What's not to love? I can't wait to pay $66 for this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        meds

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          dilate

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >gothic typefaces
        uhh?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Try actually looking at the original game.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Or the numbers. You know, the thing that makes it an RPG.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think you know what gothic typeface means

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Apparently neither do you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's a fan translation you blockhead.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >UI nicely integrated into the game screen
          >elements all fit together and look pleasing to the eye

          Have you seen that shit? It's just the PSP game with a fugly super eagle filter slapped on that you can find in any emulator. Reborn my ass.

          >generic UI elements that look like they're from any phone game
          >slapped over the screen with no cohesion whatsoever

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >barely see anything
            >see a lot
            I do like some aspects of the PSP port better but you're being a pedantic retard

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's the exact same amount of information conveyed in both UIs, it's just that one looks like it was slapped in from some modern mobile game instead of being designed to fit in with the style of the other on-screen elements.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >buzzword buzzword buzzword
                I accept your concession

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >everything I don't like hearing is a buzzword
                ok shill

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >More buzzwords
                Get better shitposting material

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ok shill

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >keeps proving I'm right, yeah, go on, show everyone you're a low effort troll some more

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do you get paid by the post, shill?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                More than your mom gets payed for sucking cock, I can tell you that much

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not him. The Reborn UI is objectively worse, because it's on a 16:9 TV screen instead of a fucking 5 inch handheld display. It is conveying the exact same amount of information but taking up more space. Look at the bottom of both screens, where the list of units is. In LUCT, the units bottom is cut off until they're selected, where they're moved slightly further up. They are never fully on the screen. In Reborn, the ENTIRE unit is always fully visible, but they have a fucking shadow gradient over it to vaguely obfuscate the lower half of the units, while taking up a much larger amount of screen space comparatively. It doesn't even serve any purpose other then to frame the attack bar, which has ALSO been massively increased in size and shape to accommodate for a 16:9 display.
                The UI is bad.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Try actually looking at the original game.

        Or the numbers. You know, the thing that makes it an RPG.

        Genuinely looks bad especially since you can player either version in 2 minutes by getting an emulator and double clicking the rom.

        You weren't going to play it anyways and just want a flop to give your miserable self something to shitpost about. The font....lmao get the fuck out of here. Day 1 buy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ok shill

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >buzzword

            Why did you even open this thread? The original was amazing and this sounds like the old grind and outright retarded lvl 1 recruits are finally fixed. What exactly is your problem other than a fucking filter and the font TORtanic-kun?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >What exactly is your problem other than the entire presentation and everything you have to spend the entire time looking at?
              You really showed me! What trivial complaints I have! Shill-sama, I kneel!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you type like fag.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You'd think Square Enix would learn by now that the abusive partner style marketing is counterproductive unless your goal is twitter/reddit updoots rather than actual sales. But it's the same environment that produced Forespoken trailers with zero self-awareness, and all of the ethics committee nonsense.

              There's no real reason to *buy* this 25 year old game, and *day one* at that, without further details. That's not a player-centric proposal, that's a marketing shill centric proposal. Shrieking like a harpy at anyone not buying the "hype" for a company prostituting for underserved money a dead IP it has no real intentions to bring back, and a company unable to tell stories that explore human nature (hell, now acknowledging differences between men and women is a herculean effort already) won't make that magically go away.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine caring about what your pixels look like. The art is still there and gorgeous. What really killed it is the no steelbook in the us

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      100% bet localizers will butcher every aspect of the story that they can. No bad things allowed like women being treated like shit or war crimes being commited.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        enjoy losing that bet dumbass

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >war crimes being commited
        Have you played Tactics Ogre before? TO's entire plot hinges on war crimes, it's literally impossible to cut any of that shit out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So is the PSP version still the best?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sure if you don't mind the cancer crafting, class experience, archers being op and other qol things

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's why you play the One Vision mod which fixes all of that shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            One Vision literally was never able to fix the leveling system no matter how much the modder tried

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              See

              There's a code generator provided to set the level for the classes. On my last playthrough I used it to set the class of new joiners to the level of Denam's main class at the moment. It even keeps thing more balanced because grinding classes will result in your characters getting a bit overpowered from having a shit-ton of SP to spend.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >just get the mod and set your levels through cheatcode instead of just getting the remaster that will probably help getting more games if demand is there

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But I don't want to get more games. Not when 100% they're getting pozzed by Ethics Department. Let good memories stay good as you remember it instead of watching chuds and rainbow hair turn it into political zombie.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What ethics department? They fucking lifted the dialogue from the PSP version and added voice overs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They're going to edit the dialogue to be more pozzed. It's already happened with Chrono Cross and all their games post-2020.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They're going to edit the dialogue to be more pozzed. It's already happened with Chrono Cross
                post your proof because I already know what you're talking about but I want to laugh at you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't have to because you've already known it. So you acknowledge they DO edit the dialogue. I win.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Having to cheat in levels on an RPG for it to not feel like shit to play sounds faggy as fuck, the individual character levels every other entry in the franchise has, Reborn included, is way better

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If this is a genuine question: no, Reborn fixed the two main issues with LuCT, characters now level individually and the crafting isn't cancer anymore, there's a reason why the shitposters only have visuals to rip on, the gameplay is legitimately better

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Good I was scared they didn't do any gameplay enhancements because the game has serious issues which is why people still can't answer whether PSP or SNES is the way to go. I also didn't like One Vision because that just made everyone weak and Clerics into tanks that extend each encounter into being 3x as long.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            As good as One Vision is at improving some of the issues base LuCT has the fact there was no way to fix the leveling system and the modder adding even more character exclusive classes you needed to grind from level 1 made it a pain sometimes

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There's a code generator provided to set the level for the classes. On my last playthrough I used it to set the class of new joiners to the level of Denam's main class at the moment. It even keeps thing more balanced because grinding classes will result in your characters getting a bit overpowered from having a shit-ton of SP to spend.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe they star weak but your party can still become OP by the end. The mod buffs the shit out of Denam's Lord class, for example. Vyce's Ranger is also kinda nutty in OV.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          apparently archers are also nerfed so they're not as disgusting.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Also it has full voice acting and a fully orchestrated soundtrack.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            From what I've heard the voice acting is a negative.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Even the JP track?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Even the JP track?

              Actually the JP version is pretty fucking good so far

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Dub voices

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's strange they fucked up the ENG dub since FF12/FFT's was good.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                FF12 has a terrible dub though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Keyboard and mouse controls are apparently pretty good too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I wish square enix would collapse already.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I dont see a reason to bother with older versions anymore since they are trimming down the retarded grind.
      Buying day one. Muh filter muh sprites my ass. I grew up with FFTA gba filters, this does nothing to me. Im not a moron.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Genuinely looks bad especially since you can player either version in 2 minutes by getting an emulator and double clicking the rom.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Looks bad
        I'm not autistic enough to care about what font they used for their damage numbers, the fact the gameplay seems to have improved tenfold and dudes from previews say the new AI is actually just as challenging if not more and that leveling isn't shit anymore this version will be superior

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I already played two versions of it and i'll play the third one too. Also I agree with this guy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Retard. It looks infinitely better than it does on PPSSPP

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It looks the same but with a shitty smoothing filter on the sprites

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It looks much better.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >sprites look better if we just slap a smoothing filter on them!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sprites look off, but everything else looks fine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      RPG """remasters""" are total vidya goyslop that only idiots buy.
      >always use shitty filters to muddy the sprites
      >awful AI upscaling for prerendered backgrounds
      >alternatively sprites are pixel perfect but bg is smeared so neither fits
      >always have mobileshit UI in a completely unfitting resolution
      >always use shitty unfitting fonts
      >changes for "accessibility" boil down to a fast forward button
      >sometimes censored too for "modern sensibilities"
      If you gave a single shit about these games you'd have already played them on native hardware or emulated them with shaders that look 100x better than these "remasters". But no, the lowest common denominator either is too stupid to emulate, too stubborn to pirate, or too poor or retarded to just play natively (either because they didn't keep their games or refuse to make an investment to own said game or softmod a console).

      >standards
      I don't much guve a shit about the sprites when the portraits look just as good and the gameplay seems a 100 times better

      People will somehow defend this and say it looks good. I was baffled when people praised the truly awful looking Saga ports, Grandia and the Trials port (even if that last one is "better").
      These same people will see nothing wrong with the FF pixel demasters or playing the steam versions of the PS1 games.

      It's not fucking hard to learn Retroarch, download your desired game from CDromance, and use the CRTroyale shader at 4k. It looks a million times better and it's free. Plus you have the option of undubs, retranslations, rebalance/fix patches, and various things like fast forward still and saves.
      >but I want to play on my [shitty unhacked console] or phone
      Fuck you, you are the cancer that propagates Square Enix and others to pump out more garbage like this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Seething lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          t. lowest common denominator goyim

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        FFXIV team worked on this game anon. You can bet your ass Yoshida is excited for this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >FFXIV team worked on this game anon
          canceled my preorder

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Emet Selch poster trying to shit up a tactics ogre thread
        Thats akin to blasphemy anon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it was already a bait thread and everything he said was right anyway
          we shouldn't have to compromise with shitty graphics for better gameplay, hopefully either the changes will get backported to snes or the remaster will have graphics mods to unfuck things. either way I'm not spending money on it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Except I'm tired of seeing SHILL SHILL SHILL repeated ad nauseum. I trust enough in Matsuno's vision and the returning devs and the feedback that was already given. I guess I'm just getting too old for gay behavior.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The fact that you just announced in the thread that the shitposting is getting to you just means they're going to double down

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >le goyslop
        >schizo wall of text
        Didn't read, lol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      people keep trashing the sprites but I think they look fine.

      truth is, switching back to the more pixelated sprite would look like shit too. Best option would be to redraw them so they arent dinky at all but thats not going to happen.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh fuck that is awful

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This honestly looks much better than the PSP version on the original hardware. Don't forget that version had tiny sprites you had to zoom in on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gothic typefaces
      uhh?

      There really isn't much of a difference, lack of TP bar aside I wouldn't even have noticed they changed the UI without seeing them side by side

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      PSP version looks amazing on the OLED vita, there was a good patch that rebalences the abysmal balence of the game too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You have fun with your level one endgame knights, shitty grindy augment skills and completely shit crafting I guess, everyone else will be playing the upgraded version

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          again, there was a patch, class, weapon and skill balencing/ grinding are the main issues with the game, only brainlets bring up crafting as it's a minor inconvenience -- just save and reload moron, you don't need to craft much anyway.

          The class system was great, endgame classes are overpowered and are meant to be used on newgame+/the world unless you are autistic enough to grind them.

          Tactics ogre is kuso as an SRPG on famicom and PSP, the patch helps a lot, will this remake be better than the patch? I doubt it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The class system was great
            Literally everyone and their mother hates it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's just NPCs who don't know what they are talking about, same shit they parrot over the crafting.

              The class system was one of the best things and only improvements gameplay wise LUCT actually did.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The class system was one of the best things and only improvements gameplay wise LUCT actually did.
                Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. There was nothing worse than having levels tied entirely to jobs, which made any class acquired late into the game an absolute chore to catch up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >which made any class acquired late into the game an absolute chore to catch up
                these are OP NG+ classes

                the class system hardly even matters. Not sure what you casual NPCs are whining about, if you haven't grinded out the skills a highly leveled class is useless.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >these are OP NG+ classes
                Yeah, imagine balancing more than half of your game around a shitty post-game grind. Fuck that noise. The Chariot Tarot was a mistake.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >get a new named unit
                >want to use them
                >Have to level not only their class but also have to level up their anatomy and augment element ranks
                >This is fine
                You are fucking brain damaged.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if you haven't grinded out the skills a highly leveled class is useless.
                You mean the grindy and slow as fuck augment/weapon ranks? You know, those things that people hate because they take like a hundred years to level up and that are another thing Reborn fixed?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what are you even arguing about? You are so fucking stupid you now think i'm defending the skill grind system or just the PSP version in general I'm not even aware of what reborn has changed, the patch to the PSP version was a big improvement in general.
                Morons conflating class leveling with literally everything else.

                >get a new named unit
                >want to use them
                >Have to level not only their class but also have to level up their anatomy and augment element ranks
                >This is fine
                You are fucking brain damaged.

                Ohh no I need to grind or play NG+ to use this broken unit
                You really shouldn't be playing SRPGs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I want to play the units I want to play without needing to wait till end game you dumb autist.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The units you want to play break the game, go grind to earn the ability to use them ( this is common for the genre and some play the genre for it see disgaea etc)

                You won't be using them in endgame, you will use them in post game, for the whole fucking thing, on another route, and this incentizes you to keep playing, and you get to see how OP your cool characters are with retarded RT

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >( this is common for the genre and some play the genre for it see disgaea etc)
                No it fucking isn't. There's an entire style of SRPGs that take after FE3 and Shining Force's style of gameplay and don't allow for constant grinding because of a limited number of battles available in a campaign.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >No it fucking isn't. There's an entire style of SRPGs that take after FE3 and Shining Force's style of gameplay

                And Tactics ogre / FFT isn't this style? Lmfao. TO isn't Fire Emblem you gay retard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And not everyone likes spending dozens of hours of K-MMO-tier grinding. For the record, FFT doesn't make you do this shit either, save for maybe like two jobs. You can easily plan out a party progression route that you can finalize in like 30-40 hours. Meanwhile, FFT: LUCT forces tedious like beast recruitment level resets and having to grind up late game jobs from scratch.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >

                >No it fucking isn't. There's an entire style of SRPGs that take after FE3 and Shining Force's style of gameplay

                And Tactics ogre / FFT isn't this style? Lmfao. TO isn't Fire Emblem you gay retard. (You)
                And not everyone likes spending dozens of hours of K-MMO-tier grinding.
                and some people do, and this is the long term gameplay loop the game offers. I don't like grinding either, but i'm also not autistic and feel I need to play as all my favourite characters, maybe if the games classes were better balanced I'd be more incentivized to grind. It's entirety optional, TO and LUCT has severe gameplay issues, it's a bit of a joke as an SRPG, but again, the class leveling is totally fine, it shows an attempt at good game design, you are conflating it with skill grinding.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >go spend hours for the right to use them
                Not anymore apparently

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not even aware of what reborn has changed
                Then why are you shitting up a thread you have no idea about you dick guzzling troglodyte, you're here shitting yourself about how one vision is better without even realizing Reborn is basically an official gameplay overhaul that rebanlances the game even better than OV did, hell even the guy who made the mod admitted he would have changed the class level system if it wasn't embedded so deep into PSP LuCT like a malignant tumor

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are an autistic shill who probably can't even tell who (>you)s are. I never once said anything bad about reborn, I don't know if it's better or worse than the PSP patch ( do you even know what this is?) but I doubt it could be worse than LUCT or the snes original which are embarressingly bad SRPGs with potential, the appeal is the story, visuals and in LUCT prose.

                I called out the retards parroting the same nonsense over what the big issues with LUCT were, ( muh class level muh crafting moron you are playing a game where the majority of shit is hardly even functional or overpowered as hell)
                I don't give a shit if they changed class leveling, but it wasn't anything to cry about and had some good aspects.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The fact everyone but (you) hate the retarded class levels system is proof enough of how bad it was, you can keep being a little contrarian bitch all you want it doesn't make it any less true, when a mechanic in a videogame actively makes the game moee tedious/unfun it is a bad mechanic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you keep making these fallacious arguments? you are appealing to an imaginary majority, back when TO was relevant and the posters weren't entirely underage zoomers we had some coherent discussions about the game design, of course there were always NPCs like yourself distracting from this by crying about the same nothingburgers over and over again.

                You are simply wrong, you don't understand tactics ogre, your don't understand basic SRPG game design, i've explained the intent to you, i've told you the target demographic, i've outlined the gameplay implications of making them useable from recruitment but you just keep being an autistic gay who just really wants to use Ozma and wants to use here right away.

                The class system is barely relevant but you can atleast see an attempt at game design in the implementation, which makes it all the worse when gays cry about it. Do you have any idea how fucking abysmally designed most of this game is?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >It's good game design because... I-it just is ok! Seethe and good riddance

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why am I even responding to this bot? next thread don't embarrass yourself and complain about weapon, spell of class balance or something

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes ninjas and archers.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bows and double attack being OP ( or really everything else being weak as shit) has nothing to do with class leveling. The skill system is busted and OP shit like bows and crossbows snowball because they can naturally attack more often which grinds the skill levels faster, on top of the range and skills being busted in the firstplace.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Autist Ganker contrarian defens infamously bad mechanic because "new thing bad"
                The fact LuCT PSP has a worse class system than the fucking SNES version is telling enough

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Back when I was deep into this shit many years ago, I thoroughly refuted all these NPC garage that distracts from the many real issues the game has. The class system is a huge nothingburger, just like crafting, except unlike crafting it's not even bad in itself. Idiots whining about late game classes have zero understanding of game design or balance how many times do I have to tell you that you shouldn't be using these characters until NG+? Unless you want to grindfest ( which is itself a component of the game for a particular playerbase)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah bro here's this bunch of cool story characters who are currently useless and you have to keep useless until new game+ / post game where you will still have to grind out the ass to level them up into being useful
                Are you legitimately retarded?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you autistic? Have you never played a strategy game before? Why do you want to be handed OP units to break the game without even any effort on your part?

                NG+ is all apart of the same game, if you are so casual you don't even play through all the scenerios I could not care less about your vapid casual gayry. "nooo I wanna play the cool character" okay, it's an RPG go grind or use them in your next playthrough.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks amazing to me.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        t. marketer who has made 50-100 posts so far in this thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The sprites don't look that bad when you're zoomed out to the max. Hopefully somebody mods them though, or Squenix listens which is unlikely.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have I been brainwashed by Ganker to think any remake of old = inferior? I watched the trailer and it looks literally better than the psp ver in all aspects whether it's the color pallete/movement fluidity/animation effects but I can't help but think it's missing something and ends up looking like a cheap imitation of the original. why?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the most astroturfed outrage from a """fan"""

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >people who don't like our game are the REAL shills!
        No.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >those sprites
      It's like someone smothered a layer of vaseline over everything, what the fuck

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OV already fixed lot of problems the base game has
    reborn sprites can do any better? also sprites look like shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the OV guy says this is looking to be the definitive version so I'm convinced it's worth picking up.

      Getting rid of job levels alone makes it an improvement.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just don't buy it instead of trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find reasons to not buy it. Even the mod's creator is hopeful about this version and has given us insight as why some things are the way they are now (more HP and a change in armor values)

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would have at least liked them to let us rotate the map like you could in FFT.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no catiua romance route.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It shall one day be ours brother, one day. Alongside the Ravness romance end too, of course.

      Oh and fuck you OP, I bet my ass you're that gay modder salty as fuck that nobody will play his shit because of the remake.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Played it 20 years ago

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Square Enix

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never played it so I'm excited.

    Should I go lord for my first playthrough or is that bad end only?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    can't stand that cheap digital upscale look typical for jap "remasters"

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >PSP game but with some changes
    >$60
    You can play the emulated version with the balance mod right now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >some
      thankfully they're all needed to fix the shit psp port. OV can't fix its worst issues like the leveling system & equipment restrictions

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's with the schizo doompsting about censorship and "muh ethics department" these past few threads? Is he just gonna be a thing now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lucas is a hack!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fun fact: the protagonist in the Tactics Ogre GBA game is Dark Knight Lancelot in Let us Cling Together.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tactics Ogre GBA isn't a remake/port?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's a prequel

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ?? Everyone I know is buying it day 1.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Holy soul and kino.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think my hype eroded the first three times I fully completed the existing routes of the game. I can't imagine being excited to play though a game yet again when they've announced that it includes no new story content. The concept of playing the PSP version with mechanics reverted back to the PSX/SNES version is pretty fuckin' dull when you've been able to play those for decades.

    Make new games and quit re-re-re-releasing this one game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have played it multiple times but never completed CODA. That shit is already way too long.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >when you've been able to play those for decades.
      I would never play those retarded boomer games. You dumb pirates are the cancer killing videogames. So glad Denuvo and Nintendo are quickly exterminating all of you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The concept of playing the PSP version with mechanics reverted back to the PSX/SNES version is pretty fuckin' dull
      This just straight up isn't true tho? What kind of delusional thinking makes you say Reborn will play like the old versions when every bit of gameplay we've seen is a balancing overhaul

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Here's the third iteration of the same game, that'll be full price, please
    You are same gays who rag on COD or FIFA and then do the same thing.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cut rogues.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they bother to declare the circumcision status of one class?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can you disable the whole card buffs spawning in Reborn? I don't think i like it at all.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for Reborn to BTFO the "muh censorship" shitposter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is true. I learned it the hard way when I found out my girlfriend of 2 years discussed my sexual fetishes with her aunt and then her aunt openly brought them up around the rest of her family when I was visiting. Never trust a woman with secrets, they will not keep them secret.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Another life hack is that always do pull and push with women.
        Never give any female most of your time regardless of your relationship, even if and especially if she is your mother.
        Always know when to push them away for some times with other people.

        Only virgins and retards who never date before will buy bullshit about that it is romantic to fully focus your life on a single person without realizing how pathetic and suffocating that feels like.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$50
    I'm going to wait for a sale

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what's the difference between Tactics Ogre and Ogre Battle?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ogre battle's like a RTS/RPG hybrid where you move groups of units on a map, instead of moving them individually on a grid like in tactics RPGs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are completely different games in every way. Ogre Battle is an army macromanagement simulator where you put together squads of soldiers and then direct them in real-time on country-scale maps. When one of your squads runs into an enemy squad they auto-battle based on general orders you gave them ahead of time and the composition of the squad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tactics Ogre is the sequel to Ogre Battle. They play differently. Ogre Battle 64 plays more like the first. T

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ogre battle is a queen song.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did it really need ANOTHER remake? At least I hear this one has voice acting.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it absolutely did. The only problem is that they called it reborn instead of naming it after a queen song. Hopefully they fix that in the next remake.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Man I completely forgot about the Queen song. It's such a good song too.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Tactics Ogre
    >There are no ogres

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Ogre
      >A cruel of terrifying person

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        b-bakana

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Someone did not finish the game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The final boss is an Ogre. The secret super boss in CODA is also an Ogre.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i only ever played the snes version and never finished it

    what should i expect

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fun political intrigue, great tactical gameplay, fun classes and customization options, wanting to bone your 5 hot sisters

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, throwing the hot mess to the four other sisters and then going on a honeymoon with the earnings of mercenary army with the hottest sister is a fucking chad move.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sherri is so fuckable holy shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I never played the game. Isn't that just a single sister in different timelines?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No there are the 4 element themed sisters, red one gets gangraped to death in lawful route and yellow fucks off, never to be shown again, you can recruit blue and green in any route.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            All inferior to Ravness

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Built for the BBC (Big Bird Cock).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can recruit all four in different routes.

            All inferior to Ravness

            Raveness is shit and a fucking g*lgastani bitch

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What killed the hype?
    Shut up. You know damn well we've been doing pretty well with these threads every day this past week.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >two handed weapons actually deal damage now
    >skills can active automatically when in range of the enemy
    >parry and deflect rolled into one stat.
    Swordmaster bros we are back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm torn on how to build my Denam this time round.
      Rampart aura is a skill I always loved, but we don't have that many slots to work with now.
      GS is based, but 1H sword feels right. Also isn't Excalibur 1H?
      1H + Shield feels like the appropriate loadout, though the artwork doesn't depict the shield.
      1H + Crossbow is awesome to imagine in a fight. The utility is great too.
      1H + Lobber just sounds fun as fuck.
      Ninja memes might still be strong. Dealing fuckhuge damage feels really good.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what killed it?
    Catuia being NBR

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I already preordered it and no amount of blackpilled, falseflagging whining will stop me from enjoying it as soon as it comes out.
    You "everything sucks waaah" cucks are powerless before me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for buying it so I don't have to

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      gmg?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Their FALL15 code applies to it so you can get it 15% off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny because the fact were now getting dedicated schizos means we're definitely moving up on the Ganker totem pole

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And thats fucking horrible. I remember when the Trials of Mana threads were starting to get flooded with cENsOrShIp gays around release.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >we
        Holy shit, the shills don't even try to hide it any more.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do you get paid by the post, shill?

          (you)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Schizophrenia is a made up illness used to discredit threats to the state or status quo. Trying to discredit me by calling me schizophrenic when I rightfully call out literal paid shill posts only proves how correct I am.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The fact that schizophrenia is diagnosed with a questionnaire proves this man is correct.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. proud goyslop connosseur

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. Why would I come here to discuss games I'm interested in?

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What hype? Nobody on Ganker is old enough to have played the original.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not too bothered by the visuals, it doesn't look that bad in my opinion and the gameplay and system updates definitely sweeten the deal for me but its easy to see why the visuals are a dealbreaker for some, I wouldn't begrudge someone for not buying it for that reason. Smoothening filters have burned people hard in the past. Money definetly should've been put into a proper visual update over adding voice acting back in. I really doubt we'll get a sequel out of this as well if we didn't get one after the PSP remake so I don't really care if this sells well, some of you are trying too hard to sell the game to people that just aren't going to budge.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's less "trying to sell the game" and more pointing and laughing at the obvious "muh censorship/muh shills" shitposters

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Except I'm tired of seeing SHILL SHILL SHILL repeated ad nauseum. I trust enough in Matsuno's vision and the returning devs and the feedback that was already given. I guess I'm just getting too old for gay behavior.

        Why is it not okay to have higher standards for these remastered games? Censorship is a real issue and them not putting enough care into the graphical fidelity sucks.
        A remaster like this should come with no compromises if you expect people to spend money on an old game. People only spout shill because most of us are sick of people eating up terrible rereleases because it just means companies won't put more effort into making them better.

        People should have dogpiled HARDER on the awful FF pixel remasters, yet retards are still buying them anyway. If anything we should be spoonfeeding people the roms/isos of these games all pre-setup for the pc illiterate tards. Sends a message and gets less people spending money on garbage. If autistic Sonic fans can spoonfeed fan remasters that are way better than their official Origins release (that got shat on a lot even though the FF remasters are worse for example), then why isn't there the same standard for RPG fans who are supposedly dedicated autistic nerds too?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because I know how the world works and how budgeting constraints work. The fully voiced cast was something that was decided because it will probably sell well (at least in Japan seeing the quality of their voice actors) and they probably decided not to develop new sprites because of that. The gameplay changes are looking great though - it looks like a greatest hits version of the SNES and PSP version.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > and they probably decided not to develop new sprites because of that.
            okay then just keep the old sprites rather than putting on an ugly-ass filter.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Don't come here pretending we wouldn't have shitposters if they reused the sprites, we both know they don't actually give a shit and just want any reason to come here and cry about

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, fuck off.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Don't come here pretending we wouldn't have shitposters if they reused the sprites
                No we wouldn't. When have you ever seen any complaints about a re-release of classic game where people were like "grrr they kept the sprites the same!" What are you even talking about?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Because I know how the world works and how budgeting constraints work
            Making the sprites look worse COST them money though. It would've legitimately looked better if they just kept them as they were. But they didn't. It's not a problem of budget, it's a problem of marketing suits thinking these games need x amount of pixels to sell in 2022. It's literally just squeenix being deranged as usual.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm mocking the censorship angle because at least with tactics ogre it has no legs to stand on, Squeneex is shit for many reasons but at least stuff like Octopath and Triangle Strategy both had dark and fucked shit out in the open, Triangle coming out earlier this very year, I'm not a fan of the scaled up sprites but when Reborn is fixing literally every big gameplay issue the PSP version had I don't care about it enough, specially since the illustrations are still just as good. It all comes off as whiny doompsting

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate this. Let Us Cling Together is a great subtitle and having it replaced with just REBORN sucks.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shitposters are clearly schizophrenic younglings

    Tactics Ogre is one of the few Japanese video games in existence whose story can be compared to a quality light novel. If you like stories and detailed plots, vidya is not where to find this, nevertheless, TO is a shining exception.

    Gameplay is top notch.
    Music is the absolute GOAT if you do not agree that is okay for you have bad musical taste
    Female characters are hot and fleshed out characters
    The best supporting characters
    Proto roguelike dungeon 20 years before it became a thing
    Multiple endings
    Way too many story branching points to summarize
    Post game content (CODA)

    And you stupid, tastless motherfuckers dare turn a game down because of a graphical filter?

    In all honesty, it is great that some of you humongous pigs feel like that.

    Do not play Tactics Ogre. Do not play real videogames. Keep yourself far from actual amazing games

    ou deserve Battlepasses, microtransactions, 18 waves of INCLUDED-IN-GAMEFILES dlc and that kind of gayry

    You don't deserve quality. You don't deserve fun. You don't understand video games as entertainment

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've already played and loved this game twice. The reason I'm mad about this filter is that it makes this version not just a straight upgrade. It looks awful. If I were to replay it, or even worse, recommend it to someone, which version do I go with?
      They spent a bunch of money making this new, polished version only to take away my initial excitement by making it look absolutely dreadful.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, it could look better.

        If all these things are true, then why not just play the original or psp version?
        It sounds like it's already perfect so there's no need for a remaster, correct?

        I already did. I will support the creators of this game since it is a quality game and I want to see the next episode.

        Also, gameplay wise this is THE version to play

        >if you don't accept us fucking up the visuals of a classic game then you don't deserve fun. Just stop having standards okay?

        >it is not obvious to him that budget was not enough for a complete graphics overhaul

        This is SE's fault. Now, the reality if things is that a bad filter will not affect how great TO is

        Too bad it utterly fails at providing engaging gameplay.

        what a fucking n00b

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If all these things are true, then why not just play the original or psp version?
      It sounds like it's already perfect so there's no need for a remaster, correct?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it sounds like it's already perfect
        NTA but loving a game and thinking it's a master piece doesn't mean your blind to it's flaws, gameplay wise Reborn is shaping up to be the definitive edition because the leveling /grindy skills/ cancerous crafting / archer spam were all fixed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >if you don't accept us fucking up the visuals of a classic game then you don't deserve fun. Just stop having standards okay?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad it utterly fails at providing engaging gameplay.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Filtered

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      moron. The game itself is great. The problem is that it's priced as a new game while being a remake of the remake. Plus the shitty VAs.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any word on the crafting systems? Have they been improved/removed/changed at all?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >crafting has 100% chance of success all the time
      >you can buy all items necessary for crafting at the crafting menu instead of needing to constantly back out to the shop
      >you can craft multiple items at once

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>you can craft multiple items at once
        Nice, that's all I wanted.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I plan on playing Bayo 3 then Reborn after. There were some long running positive threads over the last few days.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/SquareEnix/status/1576995859589648384

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't feel it, dub Lanselot feels too jovial. Always got the impression he was more stoic and that his humor was mostly dry.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        English dubs are almost always shit, either play it with voices off and with the Jap dub which actually has good performances

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Jap dub which actually has good performances
          Oh. Your one of those.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he plays any game in it's non native language with a dub
            Oh. You're one of those "people"...

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not a weeb person? Yeah. You're right. The characters aren't even of Japanese descent, which makes it even more weebish.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'd much rather suspend disbelief and use the JP dub over listening to Americans poorly do British accents

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it sounds off to me.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, after playing this for two weeks now I think this will sell like fucking hotcakes on the switch.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People like to shit on the switch, for both justified and dumb reasons, but it's undeniably one of the best portable RPG machines ever, and reborn is almost guaranteed to sell well given that Triangle strategy sold really well for the genre

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        RPGs on a portable are great. But the Deck is undeniably king for this with emulation.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >He doesn't just buy Reborn and play it on the Deck with no emulation
          Ok.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'll maybe buy it if someone makes a graphical mod like the other anon said. I hate the way filtered sprites look it triggers my tism
            Spent hours getting shaders looking nice on the deck anyway for ps1 so I don't like settling for less, same reason why I don't play my switch much anymore

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's fair but when it comes to sales for the game the switch is still the best bet given that literally every and their mother has one

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Give it to me straight, how hard will it be for people to mod in the original graphics and will anybody even bother?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can see the future, outlook gay you're gay you'll be gay and you'll like it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >original graphics
      Just play the old version. It looks as shit as the new one.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gameplay > graphics you autist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wanted to go through the SNES version just to experience the differences between it and the PSP version but the controls are so primitive and slow. I can see the game being 50 hours long and thats amazing for a retro game but most of the time would have been spent navigating the controls.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          just speed it up
          you emulate it right?

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$50

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What they're doing to with the visuals of the Front Mission remake is much more offenmsive to me than this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Front Mission 2 remake looks good to me.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does this game have multiple endings? I only remember the one where MC is killed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The primary endings are
      >MC's sister becomes queen
      >MC's sister dies and he becomes king and then gets assassinated
      >MC's sister dies and he becomes king and he doesn't get assassinated
      and minor character endings depending on what routes you took/who you recruited that pad out the ending scenes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Theres three endings.
      One where you get shot, one where you live by making sure all three major ethnic groups are happy and the final one where you leave the kingdom to your sister and go with the Xenobians for further adventures

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        For me it's lawful route combined with fucking off from the island in a self imposed exile to avoid being tried for war crimes.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We've had good threads about tactics ogre for weeks what's your problem to make up a lack of hype?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're literally just shitposting

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any real pics comparision between Snes, PSP and Reborn?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's no point, you mongs won't play the older worse versions anyway.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't even think about SNES version. Its too primitive to go back to.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who actually cares about gameplay will find the PSP version hard to go back to too once reborn is out since it fixes the levels and crafting, it's really shaping up to be the definitive way to play the game

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Stop. Just stop. The differences between the SNES version and the PSP version are not the equivalent to the PSP version to this lazy "updated" PSP version. Crafting is nonessential and class leveling was to prevent new recruits from falling too far behind.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >class leveling was to prevent new recruits from falling too far behind
            It does the exact opposite. Anybody who joins with a unique class starts with it at level 1 as opposed to being scaled to your party's level.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I never said it was a good idea.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then why are you defending it you doofus, Reborn has it's own safety net for new recruits too and crafting / lack of skill bloat / faster weapon ranks / no more grindy elemental augments / auto activating skills will make the gameplay faster and more fluid, I can bet you money that going from Reborn to PSP will make the PSP version feel like a slog

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The point is people can still enjoy the PSP version regardless of Reborn's lazy QoL changes. Context. Look up what the word means.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How fuck are you calling all those mechanical changes lazy QoL? Complaining about the graphics is one thing but holy shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                See? I told you all that it was low effort doomposters

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      All versions are serviceable, gameplay-wise.
      The fact battles drag on is inherent to strategy RPGs.

      The original Super Famicom version was Japan-only, and is one hell of a technical achievement on its original hardware.
      The Saturn port added Japanese voice acting exclusive to it.
      The PSX port added loading times, and an English localization that's good but to the point.
      The SNES version got a fan translation that was just the English text ported back, but some stats were hidden in the process.

      A GBA side-game called "The Knights of Lodis" set in the same universe tied some of the loose threads of the original.

      Then, an actual remaster happened, and that was the PSP version.
      This remaster reworked the English localization (an average dub, and a more researched but bloated translation that doesn't help the game's length), added some QoL changes but also made the new recruits start from Lv. 1 (some will whine this is wasting their precious time, but it's hardly unique. Valkyrie's Profile "Hard" mode does the same and it ends up the easier way to experience the game because you have more control over character/party stats). There are some slowdown issues, but none that couldn't be fixed with emulation. It doesn't hold back with the translation, which is a good thing because it's inspired by the Yugoslavian war.

      Most importantly, added more story content. Like some of the character endings, and story endings, while bittersweet have very grim implications, and so some extra scenes and quests were added to help that, or accentuate that (more lore).

      The PSP version, as well, is a good way to play the game.

      Then, there's this "remaster" shills want you so badly to buy.
      It's an easier direct HD port of the PSP version with uglier upscaling and art direction.
      The original game has instances of abuse, torture, rape, comments about women, child homicide, and other joyful things that Square recently shown time and time again they're unable to leave alone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Alright I guess I play the psp version then

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks, I will wait to see if the translation is butchered/censored anyway, if it's the case, I will just play the PSP version instead.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Then, there's this "remaster" shills want you so badly to buy.
        >newer plattforms
        >better gameplay (even fucking said by the guy who only plays these games)
        >pal translation
        AS IF I GIVE A FUCK about your wannabe standards and crying about sprites. I would pay 40bucks for the emulated snes version with pal translations gay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Then, there's this "remaster" shills want you so badly to buy.
        >It's an easier direct HD port of the PSP version with uglier upscaling and art direction.
        >The original game has instances of abuse, torture, rape, comments about women, child homicide, and other joyful things that Square recently shown time and time again they're unable to leave alone.
        I love how you just completely forget to talk about how much improvements this remaster has. Honestly trying to sell people the idea that QoL improvements, such as being able to craft several items at the same time, or removing levels so that your new recruits just don't suck dick and overall the drastic reduction of the mindless overall grind the game had, are bad because "muh shills" is really a retardation level only the absolute wastes of oxygen from Ganker can come up with.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but also made the new recruits start from Lv. 1
        the problem was that there was class level and thus you could not build up your characters as you wanted it
        in pre PSP versions your characters level ups granted different stat increase and thus you could build up your troops as you wanted

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >made the new recruits start from Lv. 1
        False, all classes share the same class level. If you wanted, you can just change Ozma out of Knight Commander and make her into a Lv 20 Archer because you already trained one at that point.

        >Valkyrie's Profile "Hard" mode does the same and it ends up the easier way to experience the game because you have more control over character/party stats)
        The stat system used in every other version of TO functions like this. The PSP version has permanently lost stat gains for characters that aren't in said class when it levels up. Sure its 0.1 per level, but this adds up when you consider the sheer amount of levels you can possibly gain by minmaxing the amount of classes used at any given time.
        >It's an easier direct HD port of the PSP version with uglier upscaling and art direction.
        Outright false, Reborn is mechanically different from the PSP version from the outset.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Please don't bother with the schizo, he's been crying for 2 threads in a row and intentionally ignores any gameplay improvements Reborn has

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Reborn literally reverted a ton of the changes from the PSP version to make it more like the previous versions with a twist because of fan backlash/complaints. Matsuno and his team even brought it up early on in the interview.
            Now if they would change Deneb's recruitment condition away from the retarded dragon/glass pumpkin bullshit and make it like the original.
            Shaman quest is probably going to be left the same even though that was the most blatant case of stage bloat in the series.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I feel like they should throw Law route another bone and outright remove the Shaman questline from Chaos and Neutral :^)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah because Law getting half of Coda to itself wasn't enough.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like a mobile port

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >He brought his entire army when approaching Bahanna instead of going alone and naked
    Based

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why they just don't give the option to remove the fucking sprite filter, you get this in any fucking fighting game remaster.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They didn't use a filter. They used some sort of program that went in and quadrupled the amount of pixels on each of the sprite. It also added this weird back border to them as well.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any leaks of changes to characters' route availability?

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing.

    Op is just a schizo.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How did you guys feel about TP as a resource?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      glad they got rid of it in XIV

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone know if generics will be useful this time around? One of (many) things i didnt like about the PSP version was how named characters were in all ways much better, especially because of lower delay for the most broken characters

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      None of the people who got previews has said anything about it sadly, but since all classes have been generally rebanlanced they'll at least be moreover useful than before (except archer, they nerfed archer)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(except archer, they nerfed archer)
      and that's a good thing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I always loved grabbing some stat increased on LV Up gear and then leveling some generics into gods of war in random battles
      tbh leveling up never bothered me in old version
      the crafting system, MMO grade items(with lv reqs and tiers) and class level ups always spoiled PSP version for me

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So I've heard mentioned that the dev said they wanted Reborn to have the feeling of a MMO but single player and I have no idea what to make of that statement

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They want it to be full of empty spaces and useless fetch quests?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So I've heard mentioned that the dev said they wanted Reborn to have the feeling of a MMO but single player and I have no idea what to make of that statement

        It just means they want class building to be a huge part of the game and that the game has a lot of content (multiple main game routes + CODA)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          These are not things I imagine when I think of a game being like an MMO.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            End game content is something thats talked about often in mmos. Build variety is something many of them try to strive for but never really accomplish because of the balancing act they tend to have to maintain.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              When I think of MMO end-games I think of grinding hours away to get some specific gear or crafting material drop as I work toward the single end-game viable gearset for my class which also has a single end-game viable stat distribution and skill set so that I can grind away the same couple dungeons/raids for even more hours to get the next piece and repeat forever and ever. So when they say "like an MMO but single player" I feel very turned off. I assume this isn't what they actually mean, but it's a poor choice of words in my opinion. MMO design is far from what single player RPGs should strive for. I don't want my single player RPG to have some endless tedious endgame, I want it to be good for its duration and then end definitively and satisfyingly.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should I just abandon playing A2?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you mean to play reborn? The game's not out for like a month, you probably have the time to finish your playthrough

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Half a month is more than enough time to finish A2

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I bought LUCT. Why would I buy this again instead of just emulating LUCT, which works perfectly well that way? Make a fucking sequel, and I'll get excited. Or just make another Tactics game in general, even FFTA3 would get my vidya stiffy lifty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >even FFTA3 would get my vidya stiffy lifty.
      consume less onions

      LUCT needs gameplay adjustments, if they turn it into a competent SRPG I will be very happy, I still haven't played the patch. You are never getting a full remake of tactics ogre you fucking morons, and it's highly unlikely the saga will ever be completed or get a new entry as the ideas were cannabalized into other games Matsuno has worked on.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to sell a slightly tweaked PSP game for $50 in 2022
    KEK I'll be downloading the NSP and playing it for free before paypigs even get their hands on it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Denuvo
      Sure you will bud

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >marketer desperately saying anything to stop people pirating the game
        Pathetic, I will be playing the game before it launches and there's nothing you can do about it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't give a shit you spergy fuck, I pirate shit on my steam deck all the time, you were never gonna play the game anyways, you're just shitposting because you have literally nothing better to do going on in your life

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        won deal what deal they make with them
        denovo is now sub based right?
        so they will drop it at some point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, this goes without saying, everyone with half a brain pirates all their games, the conversation is "is this worth playing" anyone too dumb / domesticated / poor enough ( underage) to actually factor in "is this worth my money" rather than time should be ignored and filtered.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. I'm not a Square shareholder and I've long given up hope of a sequel so I couldn't give less of a fuck about sales, I just want more people to have as much appreciation for my favorite franchise as I do. Though, I doubt shitposters like

        >marketer desperately saying anything to stop people pirating the game
        Pathetic, I will be playing the game before it launches and there's nothing you can do about it.

        even plan on playing the game, or any game for that matter as that would cut into his shitposting time.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a response to the One Vision mod? How does it compare?
    I only remember the vanilla game being an unbalanced shit show of slow gameplay and bugged systems.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I would say it was a novel attempt at balancing the game but there are some balancing issues within that mod as well. The creator, Raics, says that there are certain things even the mode cant fix simply because of how the game was made. He seems to be pretty positive about the changes in Reborn so far - specifically how HP is handled.

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They should've remade Ogre Battle 64 instead

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ogre Battle isn't nearly as well known.
      If they want profits then remaking an acclaimed title like TO makes most sense.
      LUCT paved the way for Reborn, now they're seeing if Reborn can pave the way for the rest of the Ogre Saga

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shame it doesnt come with an artbook.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      artbook is separate
      https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/764419/the-art-of-tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-artbook

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm probably still getting it since the gameplay changes seem nice without being too intrusive. I don't expect this to sell super well though, Tactics Ogre feels pretty niche as it is. Then again Live A Live did pretty well from what I heard, so who knows.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Moldova uses the generic necromancer portrait
    Bros, I'm beginning to think only Hektor and Gatialo are getting new portraits

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maldova is a single fight isn't she? All her siblings have portraits I always found it weird she's the odd one out, she's also less story relevant than even Hektor so while likely not every olde "generic" boss will have a portrait recurring ones probably will

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never played Tactics Ogre, but I didn't much care for FFT. I'm not sure why a game that put so little emphasis on stats had such a metric shitload of grinding.

    Is Tactics Ogre the same way?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is grinding, but iirc random encounters are scaled to your level.
      Class based leveling means that you can just make any new recruit instantly valuable by changing them to an established class, but it also means that if you want to try a new class, it will be woefully underleveled for a while before it can catch up.
      The equipment being restricted by class level also means that you can't even give them good gear to try and bridge the gap.
      But outside of that + the passive skill grind (like using a specific element spells for your "mastery" of the element to level up so you deal more damage with those spells etc) there isn't that much grinding in the game if my memory serves. You should be able to just consistently do the story segments without needing a grind detour.
      If you are thinking of playing the emulated PSP version save often and use savestates and always keep a savestate outside a fight. I lost 3h of progress at some point because I only had 1 savestate and the party composition I had for that fight wouldn't let me save the target in time.

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm concerned its going to be "updated for modern audiences" in the translation / story.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Triangle Strategy, a squeenex game, had an grown ass emperor marrying a 14/16 year old princess who's dad he killed and then they have an implied marital rape scene among other things, all this very year. Reborn will be fine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You aren't wrong, but that has its own set of translation issues. Thats with the translation though, not the base writing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There's always been translation issues with RPGs, I wish it'd improve but so long as they don't actively censor shit or is overly egregious I don't lose sleep over it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't that the game where they removed all instances of characters calling women women?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So far it uses the same script as the psp version

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thats good to know actually. I assumed it'd be retranslation like many things these days.

        There's always been translation issues with RPGs, I wish it'd improve but so long as they don't actively censor shit or is overly egregious I don't lose sleep over it

        Anything that seems intentionally dishonest or changed is something to consider not buying over for me these days.
        I would have passed on Triangle Strategy if I had known beforehand how they did its translation.
        Constantly saying "Well its not a big deal" has made it what it is in my opinion.
        How many grains of sand to make a heap and how big of a heap to make a mountain.
        Its unfortunate that it seems like translation has gone backwards. Majority of translators for JP -> EN media all seem like they have some agenda to push instead of just translating. Because they do

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im still buying tactics ogre reborn

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not wasting another 300 hours trying to climb the shitty tower for the the necro bitch messing with the faggy chaos system again to pokemon collect everyone.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Off the top of my head I can't remember anything that trannies would need to change in the translation.

    Only issue is the LUCTenglish writing while far superior is not very accurate. So we might get an accurate translation that reads like the stiff moron speak of the original / famicom.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are they even retranslating? I just assumed they were using the PSP script

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's what i'm hoping, I know nothing about reborn honestly, i've played these games enough somewhat recently and am past them so I'm not really interested or following it. I'll probably pirate it and do a playthough unless it ends up being kuso.

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They better make cressida easier to recruit. I ain't keen on doing death marches again.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not killed to me. I'm just a touch wary as most people would be around Square Enix touching old IPs, outside of that I'm pretty fucking excited about everything else.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why do most people say to pirate this than buy it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they don't have 50 bucks to throw around. I can understand the sentiment though. I've had the policy of not buying a game if costs more than two hours of my salary.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Most
      I've only seen a couple people saying they'll pirate it in earnest which is fine, the other ones saying it are obvious shitposters that will obviously never play the game anyways, pirated or otherwise like

      >trying to sell a slightly tweaked PSP game for $50 in 2022
      KEK I'll be downloading the NSP and playing it for free before paypigs even get their hands on it.

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you change your class by equipping crystals instead of by leveling up other jobs, it's pretty basic and gay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Equipping crystals
      moron what the fuck are you talking about

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think he prefers the FFT job system

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I bought it.

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >leveling up weapon skills boosts physical and magic damage .
    So they rolled weapon skill and the magic augment into one skill. Thats a massive buff for hybrid characters.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So Valkyries? People told me they get good later in the game but I was never able to get them to work or feel satisfying

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They were already pretty good but yea don't need to be boon of swiftness bots in the early game anymore.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They only get good once you gain access to the summon spells which are broken in terms of how much damage they shit out. Their conserve mp skill was stupid combined with those spells.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      unless casting magic also boosts weapon ranks in reborn thats a massive nerf to dedicated casters.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think anon just meant your characters elemental alignment is built in and will escale with their weapon skill rather than as an individual skill like before, the elemental augment skills being gone means mages don't need to grind them to get their spell's damage up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't need to equip separate skills to buff drain magic anymore.
      Terror knight buffs just keep coming.

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are some people mad at the remaster of a game they weren't even planning to get?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're trying too hard to convince themselves new is bad and old is good. I say good fucking luck still dealing with the class system and spend 30 hours on crafting while I do all of these things in half as less time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because if the remaster was good I would want it. The remaster is bad so it makes me mad that the existence of the bad has robbed me of the good.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        now explain why it's bad without using one (1) buzzword.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I mainly just think it looks very ugly. The smeary filters, the generic overly-clean phone game UI clashing against it... I wish they'd actually put in some effort to update the assets while retaining the original look. I'm not going to pay $50 to play an uglier version of an old game. It barely even qualifies as a remaster.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You do realize the PSP version is also smeared right? Tactics Ogre on PSP uses the hardware's built-in bilinear filter over the sprites, you cannot even get the blur away by zooming out as much as possible.
            Reborn is legit less smeared than TO PSP, not only that but the sprites have four times the resolution of the original.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you have any complaints that are not visual?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But it improves on practically everything people had issues with in the PSP port. How is that bad?

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like well directed tactics RPGs. I really wish literally anyone was capable of directing a new one.

    And the fucking grind in this game was beyond real.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is Fell Seal any good? It's on sale on steam and feel like it could hold me over until the 11th. Looks fucking awful but I'm told it's fun.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No romanceable Ravness.

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Will there be a collectors edition? Can’t find anything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Collectors edition? No, they separated it into game and this
      https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/767982/tactics-ogre-reborn-tarot-card-set

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nippon onri

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >translation is apparently the same for now
    Most important thing for me.
    >gameplay is enhanced
    Good, I hate absurd grinding
    >looks like shit
    I hate how the sprites looks, I prefer to see classic 2D pixels, but if the 2 previous points are respected I will probably buy it.

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I still have let us cling together lying around.
    Is that Remake the same game?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same game with QoL and gameplay changes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I guess I wait for the remake then. PSP games are so slow it’s incredible how we could play these years ago.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like something Jim Ryan would say

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Who

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          PSP was designed for salarymen to play on the bullet train

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that everyone is bitching about muh pixels and almost nobody talks about the gameplay being objectively the best it ever was tells me that nobody here actually played the game or just pretend for the sake of bitching.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just tell me which plattform I should get this
    >switch for handheld comfyness, but no trophies
    >ps5 for platin trophy but stationary console
    >pc for cheevos and mouse, but it‘s not as comfy as console

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you care about achievements lmao.
      If you wanna minmax go PC + SteamDeck then

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because I like 100% games I like and get the „platinum“, I don‘t have a deck and don‘t plan on getting one.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Alright weirdo.
          Go with PS5 then since PC doesn't have trophies.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But it has accomplishments which are also fine in my eyes honestly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there's a video of a guy using kb+m on the switch so I'm guessing it will work on the other consoles as well

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If this is true then it‘s just about ps5 vs switch and would probably be ps5

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Get told Switch version won't have shitty bilinear/XBR filter
    >Get excited
    >Look up gameplay
    >It still does
    God fucking damn it, at least make it a fucking toggle. I'd take nearest neighbor over this vaseline shit.

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wish they just ported the ogre battle games, i don't want to buy a fucking wii u for ogre battle 64.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't have to buy anything you stupid ass cock sucker. Emulate it, zoom zoom. You can play it in a fucking internet browser.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's soulless

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I give a fuck about a game I played in 2000 for the Playstation and in 2011 for the PSP and then again in 2020 in an emulator?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because consoom

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do we know what Reborn fixed from the PSP release? Any gameplay tweaks?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Read the fucking thread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Real helpful, you cum guzzling gay. Here's a link to the actual dev blog for the other Anons.
        https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_EU/news/tactics-ogre-reborn-new-features

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did they fix the retarded damage formula that made it so you either hit single digit numbers or triple digits?

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If they had left this game completely the same you gays would still complain that they didnt fix anything. You retards will bitch about anything.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They could have made a new game.

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Last time they "tested the waters" for a new ogre battle game they chose to release it on the worst fucking platform possible because everyone just pirated it, now they'll probably get accurate numbers showing why they should never bother making a new ogre battle game that has no audience.

  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks good to me. I can’t wait for it to drop.

  87. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Symphony of war came out this year and sold well enough, they should do another ogre battle because the market is there.

  88. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >oh hey a jrpg
    >tactocs/gridshit
    hard drop

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      filtered

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no i just dont play bad games

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a jrpg, it's an srpg
      Just move on if that's not your cup of tea.

  89. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have never played a Tactics Ogre game, but have always been interested.

    I will get this on PS5.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How many posts is that now, shill? Do you get paid per post?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that's my first post in this thread. the hell are you talking about

  90. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why am I more hyped for this remaster of a remake than some shit like Triangle Strategy?

  91. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if random encounters are gone how are we gonna farm cash items and monsters?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Training battles you can do whenever you want.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that sound retarded, training battles are your troops vs your troops or its something different?
        will training battles give me loot, recruited monsters etc?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Optional fights against NPCs you can do to grind. It's just moving encounters from random, to a menu you can trigger whenever you want.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that sounds soulless

            There's random encounters that have been removed.
            But there are also dungeons with monster spawns if you remember.

            are they gonna add some extra locations for early game?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The game will have a rolling level cap that keeps getting raised as you progress the story.
              There won't be much point ir turbogrinding and training fights will mostly be there to bring up new recruits to par.
              Sidequests and optional areas are obviously still in. You can see the farmable forest area in the screenshot.
              By the time you need to grind you should already have a bunch of these locations unlocked.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              honestly removing a dreaded tedium in exchange for a bit of >>>soul from random encounters is the price im willing to pay
              its not like random encounters arent generic as shit and people would rather grind in the multi-stage dungeons instead either

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There's random encounters that have been removed.
          But there are also dungeons with monster spawns if you remember.

  92. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a hard time believing a game designed to be played on the SNES will be anymore clunky, and unplayable on a modern console than on a PC. Its not like XCOM or Wasteland where they were clearly designed to be played on a PC with consoles as an after thought

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not him but One Vision mod was the superior version of the game until maybe Reborn. Also I like to change portraits (bloodlust Vyce instead of boring Vyce)

      Do you like portability? Switch
      Do you like big screens? Playstation
      Do you want to mod it out the ass? PC

      Also Switch and PC have full mouse support, don't know about PS versions.

  93. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How implied will the rape of Cerya be in the Reborn version?

  94. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What killed the hype?
    retard corporations thinking their 20 year old games are worth 50€
    >duhhh but we upgraded da grafix
    Nope. Sell it for 20€ and I might buy it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even if it were 20$ you were never gonna buy or play it you sniveling little shitposter

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What makes you think that? I buy JRPGs all the time. New ones I'll buy for 60€, but if it's old and they're trying to sell for over 30€, they can fuck right off.
        20€ for Persona 4 was a great deal. 60€ for Nocturne was not.

  95. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can't decide which version to play.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you like portability? Switch
      Do you like big screens? Playstation
      Do you want to mod it out the ass? PC

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Modding games
        Soulless.

  96. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. I am glad I can finally play it after getting my PSP fucked(and I hate emulation).
    The gameplay changes are mostly for the better, especially fixing that awful crafting system.

    Already preordered. Seethe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Same. It's time for rape!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You think there's gonna be rape in 2022 Squeenix remake? You sweet summer child.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Triangle strategy had it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Triangle strategy had it.

          Triangle Strategy AND octopath

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Both are as politically correct and de-sensitized as they can be. Your point?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You've played neither of them have you shitposting retard kun

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >How can you criticize if you've never played them !
                >Oh you did? Why play them if you're going to criticize them??
                Stop being a dumb-dumb.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Does Gus marrying a 15 year old to then have a marital rape scene count as "politically correct and de-sensitized" to you retard kun?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Rape allegations after marriage
                >Muh pedo
                Yep, it's as pozzed as it can be.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Overtly just shitposting when his schizo babble gets proven wrong
                Well at least you're not pretending to have an argument now

  97. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can you really only have 4 skills slotted in now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but weapons and armor now carry their own skills like parry and skills such as trajectory are now innate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      og have 4 slots for skills and magic(some classes have even less)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. Probably removed the stat plus skills in in favor of charms. What really makes me apprehensive is the 4 spells limit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's only the default, multiple early previews have shown that it can be increased by levels or skill unlocks, the same way you buy more capacity in LUCT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        4 spells that can be swapped with ease is good still, since you dont want to spread your elements out too much to take advantage of the ele adverse debuffs, and in some footages you can actually carry more iirc
        think ive ever only used some 5-6 different spells at most with 1 caster in my playthrough
        >single target dmg
        >aoe lol
        >debuffs and buffs

  98. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing killed the hype, it looks fantastic
    Keeps all the cool shit from LUCT but gets rid of the tedium like having to level classes rather than individual characters
    Hopefully it's got massive balance changes too so it's not just Tactics Archer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The guys who got previews already said the archers got nerfed, and a given that's coming from turbo autist challenge runners I'm willing to believe it

  99. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a great game, and you people who will buy it will have fun, noone can deny that.
    But it's almost 100% the same psp game, sold at full price.
    It's bullshit, you know it, and I'll just pirate it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >almost 100% the same
      You don't have to make up a reason to justify your pirating. Just pirate it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon have seen any of the info at all? I basically plays like a different game beyond the grid style

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Stop lying, shill.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >More buzzwords
          I accept your concession

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Muh buzzwords
            Still living in 2018 I see.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Shill shill shill shill
              >Wahhh why aren't you taking me seriously
              No (you) for (you)

  100. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    guys
    could you auction dragons and beasts in PSP version for stat increasing consumables?
    i don't remember

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yes, after selling them the shop would stock some of their meat that you could buy.

  101. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How badly do the RPG mechanics ruin the tactics gameplay? I hate tactics games where you can trivialize the battles with the bullshit character customization and rpg shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it depends slightly on gears and the options you have available (ie early game archers + ninja and late game mages + valk element buffing are a menace), but generally its a very pick-counter pick kind of game
      >use some monster units to tank
      >kill the dragoon asap to protect the monsters
      >bring your own dragoon to deal with theirs
      >mages for countering knights and be the sweeper
      >but gotta protect them from archers, so you must have rusher (or high ground advantage)
      etc etc

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its a Japanese SRPG anon. The balance goes out the window in the mid to late game once you start to optimize gear and skills. Chapter 1 of reborn seems to nicely balanced though from the footage I saw. Weapon arts aren't available and they nerfed archery so Canopus can't solo every encounter out of the box.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That blanket statement really doesn’t hold. The few good FE games don’t have RPG shit and, thus, aren’t trivialized easily. Same with Triangle Strategy. But FE3H is absolute dogshit that allows you to make a dodgetank unit and never have to think again

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The only actually challenging FE I played was Thracia 776 ages ago and even then it got kinda easy near the end game. Haven't played Triangle strategy but I will say that the more freedom you give a player to customize the more likely balance will get thrown to the wayside.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a double edged sword. Enemy levels are matched with your strongest unit, so If you keep relying on few characters, it can come back and bite you hard, and in worst case scenarios, it might softlock your run.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I’ve heard that some unit types are overpowered. Is this the type of game where you could just make a bunch of them and then the level issue you mention would be a nonfactor?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not really, levels only gives you more tools to play but you need good equipment to go further. Most equipment are locked behind recipe books and these are usually obtained through loot. If you overlevel then these might end up too hard to obtain.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's like, the fun part of it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >In between games of chess, I made all of my pieces into queens, and now I win every time! it’s so fun!

  102. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >bring back a series you enjoy
    Cool
    >it's a remaster
    ehhhhhhh.... Ever since they started gutting remasters like rune factory I don't trust them.

  103. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you'll never get a full remake like demons souls or ff7 again due to poor sales

    enjoy your remaster. I will because I never played it before beyond the like first couple fights

    fft is better and I wish that game got the same treatment but graphics overhauled

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >fft better
      good one anon

      More seriously: nvidia leak had both TO:LUCT and FFT remakes/remasters mentioned - so I'd expect FFT to come after.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I never played it but FFT is better.
      FFT is in the pipeline. Its probably going to be a remaster/mechanical remake like this one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you'll never get a full remake like demons souls
      Thank fucking god

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >FFT is better
      FFT was always bargain bin TO with a dumbed down version of its story and themes, no one would give a shit about it if it didn't have teh Final Fantasy branding

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The difference is that FFT's gameplay was designed by mainline Final Fantasy devs, which is why it's is such a broken shallow mess. The team who designed TO then went on to make Knight of Lodis and the FFTA games, which is why those are all good.

  104. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i refuse to play if they nerfed archers in any way

  105. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$49.99
    >for a port of a PSP game which was a port of a SNES game
    hahahahahahahahahahaha

  106. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do I need a guide to play this game to not accidentally lock myself out of everything or should I just go blind

  107. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The price, the voice acting, and the graphic filter.

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