What made Grim dawn stand above other ARPGs?

What made Grim dawn stand above other ARPGs?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It didn't.
    PoE remains the most successful non-Diablo ARPG on the market today, which is a shame since it is a giant money laundering service and endgame is just exploiting in-game market trends for real money.
    I was going to make a thread complaining how there are no GOOD ARPGs on the market right now. Grim Dawn is old, and it didn't do much to change the genre it copied D2 and sold itself as a return to form since D3's shitshow. Now D2R is out and both GD and D3 are dead.

    Titansquest aged like milk
    Torchlight flopped
    D2R is a demake of D2, I've been playing D2 for 2/3 of my life.
    Last Epoch is interesting but will never be complete, 4 years in EA despite selling out to Tencent and we've seen no real updates.

    The ARPG market is dead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Torchlight flopped
      wasn't this packaged with windows 7 too? how the fuck did that happen?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Torchlight Frontier burned all good faith the series had into the ground.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i thought that was fate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The ARPG market is dead.
      Because greedy devs decided to put mobile game shit in a genre that really didn't need it.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >grim yawn

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PoE won the ARGP race.
    Last Epoch has potential.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no trade
      shit game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >two more weeks

  4. 3 weeks ago
    2Guns0Fucks

    Boring.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >God Tier
    Diablo 1 & 2
    Sacred

    >Good Tier
    Dungeon Siege 1 & 2
    Titan Quest

    >Meh Tier
    Torchlight 2
    Depths of Peril
    Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 1 & 2
    Victor Vran
    R.A.W. Realms of Ancient War
    Champions of Norrath & Return to Arms
    Dungeon Siege 3

    >Yawwwnn Tier
    Grim Dawn

    >Shit tier
    Diablo 3
    Torchlight 1
    Path of Exile
    Sacred 2
    Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem
    Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms
    Din's Curse
    The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Grim Dawn yawn tier instead of Boring Quest
      lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >God Tier
      >Diablo 1 & 2
      >Sacred
      are you me?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Demolitionist class.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You could actually finish it, and it was fun the whole way through. No bullshit grinding or anything.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw Grim Dawn has been in active development for 17 years now and has the deepest lore
    https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-dawn-lore-notes-pdf-and-ebook-epub-new-update-1-1-9-0/50203

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grim Dawn's setting was really cool, but they really fucked up the main story. Started out with this cool extra planar invasion by demons that possess the soul but then shifted focus to random ass chtulhu blood worshippers that felt generic as shit
      The Malmouth DLC put focus back on the aetherials and that was really cool but fuck me if the final half of the main game wasn't boring.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aetherials weren't demons; they were an entire extradimensional species, that used to be pawns of the primordial gods, used in their wars. They were possessing humans until realizing that human behavior/will was affecting the Aetherial's subsequent actions, such as the Warden still experimenting on people.
        Ch'thon is basically THE top god, arguably tied with Yugol, and essentially all the blood of everyone/everything is Ch'thon's blood, which was being 'returned' to him through the Ch'thonian's wars and torture/sacrificing.
        I do wish there had been more... resolution involving a number of things but there is also tons of plot happenings too. I also think Act 2 is a big narrative question mark and half in momentum coming out of Act I.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know anon, was using simplified language.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    playing through the campaign 3 times to get to end-game sucks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It needed Adventure Mode.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plagued by needing 50 expansions

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >two content expansions = 50
      whoa

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >literally no good ARPGs are coming out anytime soon

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every game is chasing D2's base, failing to realize D2 has no base anymore.

    Stop making D2 lites and make your own games.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Make D1 lites instead

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since noone on Ganker actually played this game I'll quickly right up whats actually wrong with it
    >Really bland itemization, they tried fixing this with later items and re balances but most of your time theorycrafting is getting as much red damage converted to blue damage or whatever
    >because of this you'll spend normal, elite, most of legendary in some setup that doesn't represent your final build because you need some item or set to convert all your damage into what you actually wanted to use
    >made even worse by crate no longer making lvl 70 versions of legendary items
    >MI hunt was autistic, the tuned down the autism but too little too late
    >retarded mat farming for crafting in singleplayer game with 0 trade economy
    >oathkeeper being ANOTHER fucking vit class instead of doing poison/chaos secondary modes
    >need to stack rr shred limits viability on a lot of meme builds, esp dual damage type builds that aren't elemental
    >all options for endgame content all suck ass in some way
    >crucible was nerfed so many times because of autists on forums posting funny numbers that angered the devs its now unreasonable cost to run a 150-170 when the punishment for failure is immense, for shit rewards
    >SR is crucible for tanks and somehow even more boring, can get completely fucked by bad rng on boss spawns
    >totems are alright but not as rewarding as SR or cruc
    >nemesis hunting is meme tier unless you want some pants
    >dungeons give shit tier rewards and are generally too easy
    >actual gameplay isn't very rewarding, movement is alright once you get used to it but abilities all usually feel terrible

    the constellation and dual class system do a lot to help this dysfunctional pos

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boring-ass generic game. Is this really the best ARPG games have to offer?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I see an ARPG and the Paladin character has Hammer Throw, I refuse to play it.
    Let Hammerdin die with D2, please.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll add my worthless opinion that all the ARPGs I've seen are too loot and optimization oriented, but then fill the game with shit loot and inadequate UI to sift through it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chronicon is basically quality of life: the ARPG. It has loot filters, you can disenchant and re-enhant spell effects, if you get a bad roll on an item you can re-roll the stats, if you get back random effects you can re-roll them too while locking the good ones you want and incrementally upgrade the gear to a cap and so on. It's really nice but at the same time it makes the endgame really short since you're essentially only looking for one set of items and once you find one of them you already have your BiS for that piece, you just need to re-roll and upgrade it.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are the expansions so expensive holy shit

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >spec into 2H cadence/elemental exchange
    >put on some musou music
    >set brain to off
    >hold left click and watch my little meatgrinder go to town
    Love this game. Very relaxing.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Diablo 4 will save the genre :^)

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Still no anime ARPG where I can play as a cute e-boi
    What the fuck is Japan doing?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's a really good game if you have insomnia
    it will make you fall asleep in a couple minutes

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