what stops it from being better than 3?

what stops it from being better than 3?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The atmosphere and kinography just isn't there.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree. It's about as kino in terms of atmosphere but the downgrades in gameplay are what really make it shit.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What? The game has the best level design of the series and the best combat mechanics. It's a huge upgrade over Nocturne in that regard especially.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >forced skills when fusing
          >level scaling is atrocious
          >can't even grind effectively without p2w bullshit
          >dampeners

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >forced skills when fusing
            So does Nocturne. You also gain a skill to completely change a Demon's moveset, it's an endgame abillity as it should be by design.

            >level scaling is atrocious
            Despite what the mouth breathers will tell you the level calculations (because it not level scaling) is a big part of how the game is so well balanced despite having so much open ended design and so many sidequests. Also at least the level calculations in V work, in Nocturne the level calculations actively harm you for leveling up without thinking because they weren't programmed properly.

            >can't even grind effectively without p2w bullshit

            First of all you'll never have to grind in this game except to fight the super boss at the end, at which point if you weren't a total idiot you'd have like 15-20 level up items from exploring the world.
            >dampeners
            You only get 3 at a time, they effectively act as timers for boss fights which is the only place you can realistically predict when you'd use them. It forces you to take out the boss before you run out of them.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              nahhhh the dickriding is insane

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes the nocturne dickriding. You got BTFO like the pathetic nostalgia Black person you are

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >big part of how the game is so well balanced

              But the entire fun about SMT3 was how you could frick way overleveled bosses with careful preparation.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You can do the same in V in spite of the level scaling. V just lets you pull off strats like abusing safeguard to have a demon repel itself to death with an attack it's weak against to gain an extra half-turn and charge the meter.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                can’t lie that sounds really unfun

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      atmosphere is absolutely there
      I think it's that SMT3 was just barely meeting the narrative requirements for its core story to keep people engaged, but V is kind of all over the place with that
      I'd say the side quests in V do make up for it a bit though

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd say the side quests in V do make up for it a bit though

        I hated that sidequests with your friend who was the president's wienersucker's sister who was dying.

        Why wasnt that part of the main story. It was only told in text and I completely forgot about her because she did nothing.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It was quite odd
          There are a couple of things I feel could have made the game a fair bit better structurally
          As is, the game is already split into 4 parts, and you have 4 school friends (Not-Ryuji, main girl, glasses, glasses-sister)
          So you could pretty easily make it so that at each quarter of the game, you're accompanied by one of those four and they provide a benefit to you
          Main girl already does some healing after battle, Glasses could give you instant-knowledge about weaknesses, glasses-sister could help with negotiations.
          And yeah, the Ra stuff with the glasses-sister definitely should have been main-story. Honestly, the members of Bethel should have been present in the earlier chapters and maybe you can do some quests for them and junk

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Honestly, the members of Bethel should have been present in the earlier chapters and maybe you can do some quests for them and junk
            I think they could have blended the 2nd and 3rd arc into one, and then the last two areas could have focused on the fighting between the different Gods rather than just having you in Ueno going to fight them right after being introduced to them in the first place. That whole plotline could use more expanding on which is part of why I think blending the 2nd and 3rd arc together would be good, but also because Arioch being the Demon King was just a bit odd considering he had no role in the story prior to that, so if they could put Lahmu in that role instead I think it would have felt a bit more natural, although I think they wanted a Judeo-Christian Demon in that role so that might have dissuaded them from going down that route.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The whole game is structured around exploration. Even the games themes revolve around the draw of the occult. Stuff like Khonsu and glasses girl being a side story strikes me as a conscious decision, you have to go out of your way if you want to learn about them.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The whole game is structured around exploration. Even the games themes revolve around the draw of the occult. Stuff like Khonsu and glasses girl being a side story strikes me as a conscious decision, you have to go out of your way if you want to learn about them.

          It's not part of the main story because it's irrelevant to the main story plot of becoming a nahobino and taking the throne of creation. It is still important because it's one of the side quest chains required in order to get the special ending, in other words yes you do have to go out of your way to find a different path to follow than the ones you're originally given. So it was definitely a conscious decision.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The atmosphere is so dumb. All the cool stuff is in the sky and everything eye level is just a recolored desert with city ruins. The coolest environment stuff I saw was when I stopped and looked at the sky.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I love it actually, when you stop and consider that your goal is actually up in the sky. The war zone also has the huge tendrils of the Nightmare System and Taito has the tower of kagutsuchi lite area where Odin's holed up. Fairy Forest is also a nice change of pace.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I stop it.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    boring in later open areas. no ecosystem for enemies like in the caves or house in Daat 1
    Level balance makes building stats useless since your high defense wont matter against high level foes
    story was rushed so most characters are developed well to care for them
    music wasnt in HD. sounds lackluster
    And theres only 2 true dungeons in the game. The 1st one goes on too long and it annoying with e wind puzzle. The 2nd one is interesting but boring.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >music wasnt in HD
      what did he mean by this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        its not obvious but some of the sounds in the songs were muted because the composer was mute in one part of their ear

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          meds, now

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nah I can see that. It especially noticeable after playing SMT 4. Shit sounds like a DS game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The 2nd one is interesting but boring.
      What does this even mean?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He means the endgame dungeon filled with Adramelechs. It had fun time puzzles but it was bland and they just copy and pasted enemies all over.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    apart from the level scaling I don't really have a problem with it

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    15 years of nostalgia and memes.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    we should've been able to save her

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      She is married to my dick.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    felt a bit too formulaic and rigid iirc, it's always BIG MAP -> story -> dungeon -> BIG MAP -> story -> dungeon all the way until the end
    it should've just been one super giant map and nothing else

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Am I supposed to not keep demons for a long time and just get new higher leveled ones?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's generally what you're supposed to do in SMT games, yes and the very strict level scaling in this game makes it especially important here.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        but I like my angel

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Never get too attached to a demon, sooner or later you will have to change it.

          It broke my soul once I had to say goodbye to baphomet in nocturne and fused him into something boring

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like this is not my type of game

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Trust me anon, after you get over it you start to really dig the fusion system, its pretty exciting leveling up and getting to see new demons, seeing different new skills and character designs

              Its one of the main draws lf the game, besides the gameplay

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Never get too attached to a demon, sooner or later you will have to change it.
            True for every single SMT except this one, if you like a demon you can easily keep improving it with Grimoires and Essences. They'll fall behind a bit statswise once you get the level up bonus Miracles by the endgame but it's easy to do so for 1 or 2 demons you like.
            t. kept his Yakshini all the way to kick Shiva's ass

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I haven't finished it, but assuming it's like the other SMT games, you can fuse down high level skills and inheritances through elementals and essences and make completely broken low level demons. It's why elementals are so expensive despite being shit demons in battle. Just keep playing.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            For example, in Strange Journey I made an Angel with endgame skills who reflected and nulled everything in the game.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The overworld enemies and companions make the game feel less loney and isolating
    Dropping you into a different open coloured world desert for each story arc makes it feel formulaic
    Gameplay is effectively solved after a boss or two because of how OP dampeners are, the bosses are just big guys with X element rather than the constant gimmicky fights of Nocturne which required different tactics

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    everything
    >moronic story
    >chip easy
    >troony mc
    >forgettable characters

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    when i look up physical skills on the wiki it gives a number for damage but for multi hit skills is that damage per hit or if all hits connect? is there a better place to look up damage stats? i hate having to go back and forth between the wiki to get optimal skills.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/smt5/skills

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        thank you but would you happen to know the answer to the first question? the numbers are the same here as well.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          For multi hit moves it's listing the power of individual hits.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm tired of pretending that 3 is good

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      filtered simply put

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      3 is the only one i wasn't able to finish because of how boring and uninteresting everything was so i have to agree with you. It was the first game for P3 gays when they saw that the PS2 had other things called SMT.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Maniax being the only version released in the west is the best thing that could have happened to Nocturne, because it avoided the disappointment Japan faced over how mediocre and unfinished the game was. The downside being it resulted in a cult of western Maniax fans who think Maniax is what the entire Megami Tensei franchise should be about and judge everything else based on how close it is to Maniax.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the moron fanbase.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When is it coming to PC? It was in the Nvidia leak iirc

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Knowing Atlus, even if the leaks were real the port will take years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The rerelease with more content will come to PC. Probably sometime next year for SMT 30th anniversary.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Knowing Atlus...
        >they will release a sequel to V which will play much differently, probably Warriors-style
        >it will be released on all platforms
        >4 years later updated SMT V comes to modern platforms
        >minus XBox who will have to wait for 2 more years
        >and they will get new content

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. It is better than 3. It isn't better than 4 though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I could see someone preferring 3 over 5, but 5 and 3 are both leagues better than 4.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        4 is simply superior in terms of characters, setting, music and sheer amount content. The only demerit 4 has is that the dungeons suck but SMT hasn't had a good dungeon since the DS and before that the PS1.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          4 is shit but apocalypse is the best game in the series

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'd take V no-story over IVA shit story.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bait question. It is better than SMT III
    But if we're talking strictly about story and atmosphere: Digital Devil Saga >>>>> everything else
    >inb4 Persona
    Demikids has better story than Persona.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a new SMT fan but I played Noctourn's remaster before V and it's insane how much better the art style was for that era of SMT. Kaneko and his colorist(I forget their name) were just so good. The Doi stuff isn't bad it's just...fricking weird and I cant put my finger on it.

    The overworld had nice atmosphere but they just recoloured it a few times and the dungeons were so shit mechanically . If you dont care about dungeons in a dungeon crawler then the outside areas feel like dungeons but then you only have areas that feel the same.

    I enjoyed the gameplay but 3 still felt better but I'm a SMTlet brainlet so I can't explain why exactly. Except that holy shit the dungeons were terrible.

    The story and characters felt like someone took a hatchet and cut 90% of it off. We know there was a director change and long dev time some stupid behind the scenes shit must have happened. Also for some reason I blame China because we had a Chinese mommy Miller coom demon.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Kaneko and his colorist(I forget their name) were just so good
      true. his style was very distinct and unique. the series is very bland without him.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the series is very bland without him.

        I dont even think it's that. Cause everyone lost their shit over the main character because he wasnt bland. But then you look at him and feel nothing because it still feels like nothing.

        Its just weird bodysuits and naked giant breasts for demons. Ans people will say the old games were like it...but they were better.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How the frick is the old design better it's just a purple man? Doi's art is so fricking weird I hate it. Its creative and technically well done but it's like it has no charisma. I feel nuts trying to explain it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            it’s style my dude. the way it’s drawn. it’s as simple as that.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >better
            He looks like a young guy living in a place of warm climate, and his robes give you the feeling of a greek God. Doi's version is better.
            >I feel nuts trying to explain it.
            Old good new bad. There, I explained it for you.

            I'd take V no-story over IVA shit story.

            >V no-story
            Low IQ detected. You probably think Nocturne has minimal story focus too.

            https://i.imgur.com/AMfDjEh.jpg

            what stops it from being better than 3?

            Your nostalgia. V has better wolrdbuilding and the alignment reps at least bother to recognize and comment on each other's ideologies this time. Nocturne attempts to deliver this conflict of ideologies and yet you never have the Reason reps trying to dissuade you from helping their enemies.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >There, I explained it for you.

              But I played SMT in 2021 you fricking moron.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I think Aitvaras is cool

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're cool

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              🙂

              Aitvaras is cute not cool
              Power is fricking cool

              🙁

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Aitvaras is cute not cool
            Power is fricking cool

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          For me it's Amon.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Apocalypse's Odin was great, he played the second in charge role so well

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. It is better than 3. The atmosphere in this game is something no other game ever will come close. It's unbelievable how a shitty desert can be so deep and fun to explore or how a boss can be so fun to fight with a homely inclusion of a single song.

    See Taito:

    See Shiva:

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I fricking love PS2 era graphics and I think that's why 3's atmosphere was so good.

      It reminds me a little bit of Killer 7

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        why are you posting on Ganker don’t you have homeroom soon?

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    V is the best in the series though, with IV right behind.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why did he leave us

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He didn’t, he’s shoved into every fricking game.
      He’s Atlus’ Lightning.
      Nahobino is unironically much cooler.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the setting and atmosphere, a lot more than I thought I would really because I thought it would end up feeling too much like a Nocturne re-tread, and it is obviously influenced by Nocturne but not so much that it lacks its own identity. The things that hold it back most for me are just some of the combat and fusion mechanics and the endgame feeling pretty weak. I like Ueno, but once you get to the final dungeon a lot of shit just happens really fast and the fights are way too easy, especially if you've done Shiva already, and then the game just ends with a feeling of "That's it?" Nocturne's quality isn't 100% consistent, but it never drops the ball anywhere as much as SMTV drops it at the end.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You're intended to do Shiva after beating the game (which in turn unlocks the secret ending on NG+). The endgame bosses are so much better if you go into them naturally. That said, Shiva is the best boss in the series.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like what most people will do, and what I did, was save before the obvious point of decision, finish the game with whatever path they want, then reload their save and go do Shiva then. That's what I did at least and while I could accept the fights against Abdiel and Tsukuyomi being easy in that case, I really think they should not have gated Lucifer's true form behind Shiva and then make Shiva 6 levels higher than him under any circumstances. I really liked that IV:A set its level cap at 99 and made YHVH level 100 and I was hoping they would do that again for Lucifer. But in any case, Shiva is a highlight of the series, I just wish the Lucifer fight could be anywhere near as good.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          True Matter Lucifer is also as thematic as Shin YHVH though. The latter is level 100 which is unattainable for the player because you are fighting a God, the former is explicitly weaker because YOU are now God, you're putting the Devil in his place as the last test of your Apotheosis.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You can look at it that way, but it doesn't make for an engaging boss fight in any case. I'm not the biggest fan of victory lap final bosses in any case, but I think they can work, Lucifer just feels like a final boss that's really easy though. The easiness of the fight doesn't enhance it narratively or anything, and it could work just as well as a test with him actually pushing you to the limit, that it's a test and that your should prove your stronger than him by winning doesn't mean he has to be a pushover, by beating him you're proving you're more powerful anyway. The way it is in the game right now just makes it feel like an anti-climax to me.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            But it

            The whole game is structured around exploration. Even the games themes revolve around the draw of the occult. Stuff like Khonsu and glasses girl being a side story strikes me as a conscious decision, you have to go out of your way if you want to learn about them.

            But I went out of my way and it wasn't satisfying at all.

            [...]
            It's not part of the main story because it's irrelevant to the main story plot of becoming a nahobino and taking the throne of creation. It is still important because it's one of the side quest chains required in order to get the special ending, in other words yes you do have to go out of your way to find a different path to follow than the ones you're originally given. So it was definitely a conscious decision.

            It's not a special ending it is the true ending so its the most important story of all.

            There was no reason to to give a shit about this boring dying b***h her biggest character trait was green scarf.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >There was no reason to to give a shit about this boring dying b***h her biggest character trait was green scarf.
              Anon it's an SMT game, all characters only exist for the sake of furthering the themes of the game and nothing else. In this case her subplot was emphasizing the theme of humanity living on its own without gods or demons messing around, to help tie in the true ending of the player doing exactly that.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You didn't play 5 before your parents divorced.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it is better than 3, but what stops it may be nostalgia and also snoy bias, overall Nocturne aged horribly and although it has a lot of good things the game is super outdated while V solves all these problems while also being incredibly bland in its world and story

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I didnt know having characters and dungeons was a problem

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the gameplay of nocturne is awful, it is super outdated even for the time it came out that's why it bombed, the best SMT game is still IV and the best way to get into the series

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          i really really don’t understand how a turn based game can have outdated gameplay
          please elaborate

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            by making the menu selecting the total opposite of intuitive

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >the best SMT game is still IV
          I don’t think that Nocturne is perfect but I do not get what people see in IV with how blatantly unfinished it is as well as the total lack of difficulty.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >muh difficulty

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I don’t think that SMT is as ball-bustingly hard as the fans make it out to be but the battles IV are a total snooze-fest with how one-sided you can make battles go into your favor, not to mention the lack of balancing with shit like STR being flat out useless because Atlus can’t calculate for shit. Devil Survivor may be pretty easy once you know what you’re doing but I had way more fun with that due to its’ customization options and the story actually being engaging.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            For me it's the absolutely awful job they did with the demons, from the terrible guest artist designs to the awful copy paste stats that make every demon of the same type identical.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >how blatantly unfinished it is as well as the total lack of difficulty
            Congrats you've described Nocturne, 4, 4A, and V.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              IV:A feels pretty complete, it probably only got to feel that way by having so much re-used assets, but it does feel complete. Nocturne does too, but that's probably in large part because we just got the re-release.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nocturne's character writing makes V's look like Pulitzer material.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Taking off your hat is not good character writing.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I know they don't teach proper English literacy in school anymore, so let me give you a quick lesson. Comparisons in the form "X makes Y look good," where "look good" can be replaced with any other similar statement, is implying that Y is not already good, but rather mediocre at best and usually also bad itself. The statement uses the comparison to emphasize that X is even worse, often but not always by way of hyperbole. Hope this helps you ace your next middle school English assignment!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How so?

          I dont remember shit about either game except V felt fricking stupid and hallow and 3 felt mysterious and cool. I think Cs just pissed me off and annoyed me.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, people compare it to Nocturne without caring that "Nocturne" is a rerelease that loredumps things people take for granted now in the new content zone. Shin Megami Tensei 3 had Aradia, Hijiri and Hikawa's movements prior to story being undeveloped mysteries that were sometimes outright plotholes - like how Hijiri even survived Conception outside hospital.
    So it fails in the regard that it's not an ATLUS release with a crossover husbando yet.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Troy Baker didn't get replaced until halfway through the anime, and the post-anime spinoffs. He's still in P4G and the first Arena.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      5’s story arc addition focuses on Maruki, not Sumire. You can completely ignore Sumire and the results will be the same.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I do prefer hallways unironically

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. It already is better than 3. Best gameplay and demon fusion of the series. SMT 3 is overrated. SMT 4 and SMTA are far better. SJ being at the very top.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It is just a better 3, which is why it gives nocturne gays a mental break down and they start sharting themselves uncontrollably.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    unreal engine on the switch

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This
      Unless you're particularly savvy, it's a shit-show to try to use Unity or Unreal on Switch because they bundle so much useless shit into the final executable for the game that it weighs down on the CPU

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >15 fps
    >loading times
    >moron looking mc

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No dungeons
    Worse characters
    Magatsuhi meter is a terrible mechanic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The game ONLY has dungeons, it's like Strange Journey in terms to how the world is laid out.

      The human characters are weak but the demon characters are the best in the series.

      Magatsuhi is just the smirk/team gauga from IVA with all the RNG removed

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It feels really hollow without the dungeons, and overworld sections should've been an addition, and not a replacement for them. The Diet Building, prison and obelisk are the most memorable parts of Nocturne, they have unique ideas and visuals and interesting level design which requires methodical approach and provides a lot of tension to the gameplay. In V you just don't give a frick, because most enemies can be skipped anyway, and exploration quickly turns into repetitive collectathon of koroks. Dungeons were fricking awful in IV as well, but that game at least had a better setting, and not just a repeat of Nocturne.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally just the story. Less would have been more. The ending was clearly rushed and any sort of story after the second or third act falls apart. In my opinion, music and gameplay blow Nocturne's out of the water. World design is far more up for debate: Nocturne's is far more esoteric and dusty, clearly a ruined world with nothing but swirling sand, dust and the remnants of humanity. Da'at feels more like a parallel mirror world. (though I suppose it's technically the opposite.) Once you get out of the desert and get to mess with verticality Da'at is a lot more fun to explore.

    5 tried to do the school shit, and it ends up boring the player. It brings up the protofiend plotline, but drops it almost immediately. Goko. Dazai is the only character who gets any development and we never see Nuwa step on Yakumo's face. Compared to Nocturne, with characters like Chiaki and Hikawa, Nocturne blows them all out of the water. Lastly, the endings... it irks me the "true ending" can only be obtained by doing all the side quests for the demons... after making a point that they aren't all bad, then you go and make a world without Gods or demons? It's a bit bizarre.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The true ending is self sacrifice. The most important quality in a true monarch

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SMTIV/A is the peak

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They should remake those

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Protagonist looks like a punchable zoomer and I watched a few scenes on YouTube and the game was gay weeaboo melodrama. Never touching that shit.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I am being filtered by Ikebukuro (the dungeon with no lights on). I killed Kin-ki after trying 3 times, left his area and was confronted by Mothmen. One evil-gazed me and the other hit me once. I lost all that progress and felt unmotivated to do it again

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It is.
    3 is baby's first SMT.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ooookay but you realize that this is quite literally on the nintendo switch…

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        And what does that have to do with anything? Almost every SMT game excluding the PS2 era games started on Nintendo systems, how new are you?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          erm…yeah that’s my point.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That you're a snoy and you think playstation means not baby's first? Stay seething nocturne gay.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >loud minority of zoomer morons who were filtered by a PS2 game
    How did the megaten fanbase fall so low

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >play smt 1
    >play nocturne
    >strange journey
    >4 and apocalypse
    >Persona 3 and 5
    >Soul Hackers
    >Devil Survivor
    >enjoy all of them
    >Start SMTV
    >stop playing after Lahmu escapes Does it get better bros ? It has been really boring so far.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's consistent in quality until the end of the game where it starts to dip, but if you haven't enjoyed either of the first two areas I don't know that the rest of the game will make a positive impression on you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >>stop playing after Lahmu escapes
      Bruh you're barely 20% of the way through the game.
      The other worlds will have the same general format as the first one where they're open and you have side quests to do, but the first world is pretty sparse compared to the others to ease the new player in.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Enjoyed SMT1
      >Enjoyed Persona 5
      >Can't play more than 2 hours of SMT5
      Way to expose your shitpost.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        SMT5 is just shit

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So what is it? Nocturne baby seething? snoy seething? both?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it doesnt get better at all lahmu is one of like 3 boss fights in the game that's sort of unique and you never leave the desert and the story somehow gets worse

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I’m enjoying it a lot more than Nocturne so far.

    Also, Artemis is my demonfu. Not only is she a cute tomboy but I love the Saint Seiya reference in her Astral Saintstrike.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      weebs really ruined the serie

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >wtf why are weebs playing a niche weebshit series called Shin Megami Tensei that takes place in Tokyo with dozens of Japanese deities this is inconceivable

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >dlc
      you’re demonfu is dogshit

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of moronic ass decisions like level ranges for damage.

    A pity, really, feels like the game was rushed out unexpectedly as there's a lot of stuff that clearly had very little time to be polished compared to the QoL stuff, for example.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shit dungeons

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SMT discussion has unironically become Soulsgay-tier where only one (1) game can be good and all the others are shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's really just the nocturne fanboys and the drive by snoys throwing tantrums, you almost never see shit flinging between SMTV and SMTIV fans.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      OP here. I just said one was better than the other. SMT V is still good. I only hear this rhetoric you speak of from V gays. Wonder why. Definitely not insecurity.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >falseflagging
        KYS moron.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You’re the one proving my point. If anyone were to be a false flagger it would be you.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Look up what false flagging even means before you attempt a "No U", moron.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I literally explained it in my post but ok.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I just entered the last area that’s snowy and I have no desire to continue. everything looks the fricking same again!!!!!!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >itard user
      adds up.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally nothing. Story trannies get off my board.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    4 is so much better than 3 its not even funny. Only people that would disagree are nostalgiagays that grew up on 3.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i like it when there are more than two fights that are sort of challenging in my jrpg

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        grind less and then the game isn't easy :^)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          do i have to nuzlocke it and only put points into luck too

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      4 is bad. Demon designs are shit and an insult to live itself. Level design is shit. Story is shit. Characters are shit. Gameplay is shit. Only redeeming quality is the OST, which is godly.
      People only like it because they're secondaries and it was their first.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get what people see in 4. 4 smirk is one of the worst mechanics in the SMT series where whoever has it is functionally invincible until they lose it. Early game is practically a coin flip, but once you get past that you just smash through everything without much trouble.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get what people see in 4. 4 smirk is one of the worst mechanics in the SMT series where whoever has it is functionally invincible until they lose it. Early game is practically a coin flip, but once you get past that you just smash through everything without much trouble.

      >I don't get what people see in 4
      4 is basically 1 and 2 but with modernized graphics and smoother gameplay.
      What is there to not like? Besides Mikado and Naraku that ruins the prologue of course.

      If you don't like SMT IV, you don't like SMT at all I would say, only Nocturne.

      Now that the series is splitted with these two "visions", if at least they would captlize this and release two kind of games like MH console and portable does. But they won't.

      Either way, SMT IV was a much more ambitious experience than V.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When will it release in steam?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It won't, we're pretty much already in October and if they haven't announced it this close to the 1 year anniversary than it just won't be happening.
      Just like Bayonetta 2+3 and Astral Chain.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So the exclusivity deal just changed hands from sony to nintendo?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What are you talking about? You still stuck in the PS2 days? That was just a matter of massive the install base the PS2 had while barely anyone had a gamecube.

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    less atmosphere, less interesting world, less interesting story, horrible looking main character (dumb superhero-like design)
    the exploration and fights are more fun
    both games are great overall

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >less atmosphere
      chaos circle jerk is moronic
      >less interesting world
      multi color deserts is more interesting than a single color desert
      >horrible looking main character
      I prefer it to the shirtless biker shorts wearing sketchers and a dumb horn on his neck that demi-fiend has going on.
      >less interesting story
      They're both terrible but at least SMT5 has some more animations going on.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Did anyone rip the ingame art?
    I don't think it'll be in the year 1 artbook

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