What was it's story's message? What core themes does this game has? And what about the narrative?

What was it's story's message? What core themes does this game has? And what about the narrative?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Fun" (whatever the frick that means) is a byproduct of a good story, I didn't had any fun because I couldn't understand what the frick story is supposed to be about, as such I lost interest very fast

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This might sound stupid but I feel the same for a lot of modern RPGs. Quests feel like they're written by completely different people, nothing ties them together, they're just lol so random scenarios to give you something to do.

        I drop all Larian games just outside of act 1 because of this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Fun" (whatever the frick that means) is a byproduct of a good story
        Try novels. This is a gaming board

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Games can be used to create stories that are way more engaging and thoughtful than any book or movie, the fact that you think that story is something reserved for VN's just makes you sound like a moron who thinks that games are nothing more than "pew pew paw paw" for children, which is probably the attitude of Larian writers. This could be fine if they didn't pretend to be a serious RPG

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >pretend to be a serious RPG
            Larian has never done this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Games can be used to create stories
            CAN
            they CAN be used like that. Good games having barebones or no story? That's your problem

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Games can be used to create stories that are way more engaging and thoughtful than any book or movie
            t. never reads books

            video games are always bottom of the barrel when it comes to stories, with rare exceptions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Santa Claus

        >"Fun" (whatever the frick that means)
        I swear there are some truly insane people on this site.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's just braindead anti-Larian contrarianism. In any other circumstance Ganker would complain about fun and gameplay not being prioritised over story

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Larian games are fun
            Oh no...
            >Larian games are so fun they don't need a story
            Oh no.... nononono

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/dP9Vnxr.jpg

      What was it's story's message? What core themes does this game has? And what about the narrative?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And then they launched into a two hour tirade about how they gave the character creation nipple piercings and togglable wieners

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hired shill. There's a place in hell for them, a special one.
        For you, too, clown.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it doesn't need a story
            >not a shill
            cope

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cuckold clown

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We don't sign our posts here

              forgettable troony game.
              the "main storyline" was just a backdrop, the actual game was clicking "rest" and engage in troony conversations with gays in the camp.

              i regret wasting my time playing this, replaying BG2 for the thousandth time would be a better use of my time.

              BG3 is so much better than boomerslop like BG2 it's not even funny.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's good
                >why
                >it doesn't even have a story and won GOTY!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clown world

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's good
                >why
                >it's fun

                BG2 is still iconic, cuckold that you are.

                Bg3 will never be iconic and is only coomer bait.

                Larian pumped and dumped your favorite IP for a quick buck

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it doesn't need a story because it's fun
                >so it doesn't have a story?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >'jak
                I won

                I just finished Baldurs Gate 3.
                Here's the review:
                >graphics 4/10
                faces look well made, but everything else - the locations, walls, trees, dungeons, look extremely weak - the worst ive seen in recent years, actually.
                >music 2/10
                music sounds like it was made by ChatGPT, completely ambient, unnoticable "nothing". There wasnt even 1 moment that made me say "oh damn thats good music".
                >companion interactions and dialogues 1/10
                absolutely sex obsessed, unreal interactions between horny 12 year olds. Halsin told me he want to bed me during our first conversation in the camp, and the shirtless Emperor offering sex was the most pathetic thing i saw in a game.
                >non-companion dialogues and story 6/10.
                its just "ok". Not great, not terrible. Its ok.
                >combat 1/10
                no fast forward button, no "ignore enemy turn" button, way too many filler trash encounters all over the game, just to artificially prolong the game. Combat boils down to just spamming 1 OP skill and clicking end turn.
                >camera
                doesnt work. Gets stuck - for some reason - on eveything, and can only move 15 meters from my character.
                >map
                doesnt work. when you press M it doesnt even have a bracket to tell me what part of the map im looking at and when i click somewhere the team doesnt go there.
                >no weather patterns and no full day/night cycle 0/10
                every single DND game ever made has full day/night cycle. Learn to code, Larian.
                Especially cringe when playing as a Drow or a Vampire.
                >UI 1/10
                there's barely any UI art at all. It just.... is.
                In fact, the whole game suffers from a lack of art direction.
                Baldurs Gate is the ugliest city i have ever seen in an RPG. Its just a vomit of beige walls.
                >4 person squad 1/10
                should be 6.
                cant even tell you how many times i had to go back and swap teammates for a quest.
                >item and spell descriptions 1/10
                >inventory management 1/10

                Overall:
                4/10 RPG game.
                1/10 Baldurs Gate game.

                Are you in pic related? Be honest.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it doesn't need a story because it's fun
                >so it doesn't have a story?
                >I-I won...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I won. BG3 won too.

                Except they didn't, wotc scared them away.
                They already started working on a dlc and were very excited about it, they even started with bg4, but clearly wotc got greedy and sven got old and can't handle such a massive game anymore, esp not in that macro situation.
                Him doing 2 games now is clever, won't help him. Bg3 sealed their doom, which is ironic. They dropped pachinko games to create bg3 and now it will be their downfall.
                Rightfully so.
                You are just a brain dead consumer, literally not more than a sewer blob.

                Local schizo moron wants you think that that owning 100% of your game's revenue is a bad thing.

                BG3
                WON

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I never said that, you pathetic clown

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, pretty sure you're a schizo moron who thinks that owning 100% of your game's revenue is a bad thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it doesn't need a story because it's fun
                >so it doesn't have a story?
                >I-I won! BG3 won!
                won what? the story is so bad you refuse to defend it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's so embarrasing the lengths the anti-shills will go to hate this game. they are entirely butt devastated that the game won, enjoyed a huge success and is still beloved by many players. all they have to do is not care and move on yet they choose to linger in their own misery in a fruitless battle. how loathsome

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except they didn't, wotc scared them away.
                They already started working on a dlc and were very excited about it, they even started with bg4, but clearly wotc got greedy and sven got old and can't handle such a massive game anymore, esp not in that macro situation.
                Him doing 2 games now is clever, won't help him. Bg3 sealed their doom, which is ironic. They dropped pachinko games to create bg3 and now it will be their downfall.
                Rightfully so.
                You are just a brain dead consumer, literally not more than a sewer blob.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BG2 is still iconic, cuckold that you are.

                Bg3 will never be iconic and is only coomer bait.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >awful shitty story
                >companions that are total unlikable c**ts
                >awful 50 year old graphics from divinity 2
                >shitty AI made music
                >turn based zoomer combat
                its a coomer game for pathetic losers.
                worst DND game ever made.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                This is true but I don't think larian even understands ultima to the point that they're trying to copy ultima's design philosophy. Rather I think since the beginning all they've been doing is copy pasting as many of the features as possible without any real understanding of game design

                And yes the writing is infantile and stupid, but in BG3 it's more than that, it doesn't make sense

                Only two guys on the writing team are above 40 and might know a thing or two, and one's a homosexual. Everyone else is a millennial or zoomer, coloured hair and all. That's why it's banal coomerbait most of the time. The reason why it's incoherent is because everyone, and I don't mean just the writers because people close enough to the writers also got to toss their slop in, was encouraged and expected to "own" a specific character or plotline or some whatever, and it was only those two guys that were in charge of trying to tie it all together narratively somehow. So yeah it's basically a collection of unrelated NSFW fanfics they then hired several hundred people to adapt into a game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the red demon marvel tier b***h companion was written by a fat troony that has a phobia of being touched by other people
                jesus christ.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One thing I've been pointing out since early access is how stupid the mind flayer suicide squad motif is. You spend 80 hours not dealing with mind flayers at all outside of the opening, and most of the game you're doing low level DnD stuff. It just doesn't make sense. In BG1 it works because your goal is simply to "survive" and by doing low level DnD stuff you are training and thus meeting your ultimate goal. In BG3 you're given a parasite that doesn't eat you by virtue of plot armor and its only purpose is to steer you into a final confrontation boss battle which holds no weight. From the very beginning they had no idea what kind of game they wanted to make

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was unfinished content

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Unfinished content
                >the main story
                >from the earliest build of the early access
                so larian is mentally moronic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. Arguably they allocated their resources correctly. It's more important to flesh-out fundamental game systems before story

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they didn't finish the main story because they were busy porting the DOS 2 combat
                >larian isn't moronic or anything
                okay lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's more important to flesh-out fundamental game systems
                what systems?
                the combat barely exists in bg3.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it does. Most of my playtime is in combat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Most of my playtime is in combat.
                hysterical, considering it was advertised the game wont be combat heavy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was fine with me. I'd rather combat to talkies

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BG3 doesn't even have gameplay, you can skip like every fight

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fun fact: the idea generators are paid magnitudes more than the idea implementors

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As they should be. Are you a commie or something? Do you think CEOs and coaches "do nothing"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >From the very beginning they had no idea what kind of game they wanted to make

                Larian doesn't do that.
                Just one hey it's funny scene after another.

                Hence me saying this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                heres the kicker, larian changed it a thousand times in the last 6 years:
                >act 3 was supposed to be act 1
                >act 2 was supposed to be act 3
                >act 1 was supposed to be act 2
                this game is the biggest fricking development mess ive seen since Duke Nukem Forever.
                its a nonsense patchwork of bullshit that doesnt make any sense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>act 3 was supposed to be act 1
                >>act 1 was supposed to be act 2
                moronic
                >>act 2 was supposed to be act 3
                This is correct though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i know its moronic, but thats how larian develops games.
                act 3 - the city, was supposed to be act 1, the main hub you use for the whole game, but it actually required work to do so they cut 90% of the city and made it act 3.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Makes sense. Hyping the city up for 3 years (the namesake of the series) and then failing to complete it and stuffing it in the ass end of the game is a monumental failure of game development. Almost Cyberpunk tier

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >act 3 - the city, was supposed to be act 1
                No, that's moronic. They made the right choice to create a sense of journey to the city

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Journeying to the city with no content?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Act 3 is just under 50% of the game's content

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >1st act is a theme park, has a druid grove, the gobbo site and 10 other things squeezed 5 feet from each other
                >2nd act theme park is just an ugly ass tiny miniature shadow forest
                >3rd act theme park is the ugliest motherfricking city ever made in an RPG
                these theme parks close after you finish them, too.
                cant go back.
                theme park closed.
                BG2 felt like an actual huge fricking world i can travel around in, BG3 feels like a demo version of some low effort DND parody.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget if you try to go back to a theme park the game kills you. They very easily could have allowed you to go back, literally changing a 0 to a 1, but instead they decide to kill you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >game kills you
                how?

                I'll admit it bugged me that I didn't get to really enjoy the benefit of lifting the shadow curse, would've been nice to explore and see the area healing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The squid guy dials your tadpole nokia and blows your brain up if you try to go back to earlier acts

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fr? on my first playthrough I went back to Act 1 from 2 a few times and nothing happened, though I eventually stopped after I recruited Halsin because for some reason it would cause him to leave the party, which I assume was a bug

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I went back to Act 1 from 2 a few times
                Bug maybe? Because the game is supposed to kill you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I doubt it, the Emperor exploding your brain doesn't line up with his motivations, so I can't see why that would be a thing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Uh larian exploding your brain if you don't progress through the game how they like doesn't have to make narrative sense. As we've established this thread the narrative doesn't make sense anyway. Are you sure you're not lying about the game so that you can shitpost and say I'm wrong?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're the one who is lying. do not respond to me again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you're lying about larian exploding your brain if you try to go back to earlier acts, glad we cleared that up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lying idiot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Responding to me multiple times (samegayging) after you were outed as a liar is pretty pathetic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only after you reach a certain point in Act 2 does this happen, since it would make no sense for the party to travel back to the forest etc. while armies are on the march and so forth.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not a bug, other anon is talking shit. You can jump from act 2 to 1 before a certain trigger in 2.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Source?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Playing the game you fricking cretinous moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon is correct, I thought about it some more. You can go back to act 1 freely before you finish the Gauntlet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can go back to act 1 freely before you finish the Gauntlet.
                This

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They should have swapped act 2 and 3. Act 1 was perfect, and creating a sense of journey to the city was a good idea. Act 2 just felt like an end game zone

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i generally agree
                but i'm pretty sure you can go back to act 1 from act 2 not like theres anything to do there

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In act 1? Act 1 has tonnes of content. It's act 2 that's lacking

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i mean after you are done with act 1 there is no point in going back

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >once you do the content, you can't do it anymore
                Well, obviously. There's tonnes to do in act 1 though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the combat and the recorded audio dialogues prolong this pathetic game by a million %, its a game with pretty much no content in it.
                i swear to god there was a filler trash combat encounter in BG3 pretty much every 2 minutes, at some point i just wanted to use cheats that just kill all enemies, the combat in bg3 is just AIDS.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                2nd act also has the mountain range with the coolest part of the frog quest
                3rd acts only problem at this stage is that it has too many gays, other than that it's solid

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't get that.
                Act 3 was planned to be bg?
                Act 2 was designed as end fight?
                >might be true, as the brain houses there.
                Act 1 was supposed to be what? Shadow woods? Kethric boss fight?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Squid face made for a cool logo, so they had to be added in a way significant enough to warrant it, but the idea of it making sense was thrown out very early on for the sake if "fun", because doom clocks are never fun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                t. pathetic loser who has never played DnD video games

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                im playing bg2 right now, im in the sewers and i just solved a puzzle and got a sword that talks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sure

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't "play" anything, you just shitpost on Ganker 24/7.
                You're still easy as frick to spot btw.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why does this game attract so many absolutely insane people?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >4 results found

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No STOP TALKING ABOUT MY GAME NO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
            That's what this image conveys.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"have fun, but only if you don't make a white man"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I want to ask her, if she hadn't eaten breakfast that morning, what the political ramifications of that would be

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why do ESLs censor curse words like facebook boomers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        crazy this guy toppled Todd as the Godd of Ganker. BG3 friends just can't stop winning

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All me. Based Swen

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All me. Based Swen

          All me actually. HAIL Lord Swen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        crazy this guy toppled Todd as the Godd of Ganker. BG3 friends just can't stop winning

        Swen is so based. Hates corpos and loves games, he's as simple as that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fippy bippy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP sisters?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First post. Best post. Thread should have ended here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's that simple really

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This and anyone who hasn't attended a tabletop game wouldn't understand that the tone of the game nails this feeling. The few characters that use modern dialogue are a plus, not a flaw.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      brutal

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no message or grander theme that ties it all together. It's just slop for zoomers to consoom and forget before slurping the next thing.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't have a pretentious message. It's just a schlocky dnd adventure

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      but if you absolutely MUST have a message it's "don't frick with the order of the universe or the universe will conspire to frick your shit up."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      D&D can have good stories and characters. Just look at BG1&2. The third game is completely disconnected from the first two besides being in Forgotten Realms.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        D&D was never about that though. By keeping it innocent and simple BG3 is actually a return to form

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you saying people are just playing BG3 or even real tabletop for the gameplay? How moronic are you? Rolling dice isn't fun. It's rolling dice that has a meaningful action behind it that's fun, you know, to affect the story or characters.

          BG3 gameplay is literally the same from Divinity 2, and that shit was so boring because they forgot to hire writers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DOS 2 is boring fundamentally. The gameplay has no depth, it's an unbalanced action game with 100 different spells that everyone can use because there's no mana or spell use restrictions. Winning encounters on the hardest difficulty boils down to spamming the highest dps spells and spamming spells that skip the opponent's turn. It's braindead

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People play D&D for the inter-party dynamics and performing heroic deeds, not some grand "narrative". "Slay the dragon" is all you need to have a grand adventure

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              "Slay the dragon" is different from "get cucked by your party member after watching big burly beastmen get fricked in the ass"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Homophobe? K.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stop picking the gay cuckold options then.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But what does the dragon represent? 'Slay the dragon' as a basis for a story is OK if the dragon represents a fundamental evil in society, with other elements of the story subtly reinforcing the problems caused by that same thing. Greed is obviously the classic sin represented by dragons, hence the treasure hoards, but I guess wrath or pride would work too. Anything really, provided the whole framework of the story is built around exploring that concept. This is narratology 101.

              Not sure if Ganker is ready to hear this, but the Witcher games do this really, really well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In BG3 the Ilithid are the Big Bad. The game naturally invokes their traditional connatations

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA and I think Baldur's Gate 3 is a shit game but not everything has to have a deeper meaning
                I will agree that stories with a deeper meaning are usually better (when they don't crawl too far up their own ass) but adventure for the sake of adventure is fine

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The dragon is psueds like you.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You had real shit DMs. The DM is literally a story teller, not a referee that tells players where to go. Plot and characters go together to weave a narrative. If every D&D for you is just rolling dice to slay the dragon, you're gonna get bored real quick no matter how interactive or good at role-playing your fellow players are. Characters need to have motivation more than slay the dragon so that they become actual characters with personalities. Every good roleplayer would quit the campaign if it just "slay the dragon" every session.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OR people play with their friends and enjoy shooting the shit while playing a light adventure game? Jesus Christ

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >treating a schizophrenic who is actively experiencing persecution delusions (bg3 is commie propaganda designed to collapse the west!!!1!!) as if he's capable of rational thought
                o i am laffin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >D&D can have good stories and characters. Just look at BG1&2
        Those games have the same kind of hokey, simple plots as this game thoughever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both of those have very simplistic plots, not particularly deeper than 3 (especially 1 is the most basic b***h DnD adventure I can think of).

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This idea that media should be boiled down to a "core message", "core theme" or moral is such a smooth brained take. The American education system, everyone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I felt exactly the same about BG2 when I finished that recently, unlike Planescape which is full of interesting ideas to chew over.

      Stories have been written in such a way as to present themes and morals since the dawn of human civilisation, anon. You think the Iliad isn't expressing core themes? The Canterbury Tales? Don Quixote? War and Peace?

      It is the idea that a story can just be about having a good time with no deeper meaning that is the modern, "American" viewpoint, if anything.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It doesn't need a story

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          did you mean to quote me? The game has a story it's just not very good.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So the story is so bad it's as if it doesn't exist

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not how it works. A car doesn't need to have heated seats to get from A to B, but if those heated seats give you second degree burns then the car would have been better off not having them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If a story is so incoherent and nonsensical that it doesn't exist then the story doesn't exist

                If you then intersperse that story throughout dozens of hair pulingly slow game progression it really really doesn't exist

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so the story has been reduced to the point of being more or less inconsequential, why not just remove it? Why waste (I assume) millions on fully voiced dialogue?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because larian doesn't make complete games

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BG2 at least concludes the story in a somewhat satisfying way. Unlike bg3 bg2 was gutted before launch.
        Game without theme, narrative or subtext is an empty shell.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          BG2 starts well and ends well, but loses focus massively through the Underdark. I also thought the earlier "main" sidequests, which each paralleled a class archetype, were extremely hit or miss in how well they matched the themes or even the tone of the main quest.

          It's obviously a worse videogame (bowspam etc) but I actually thought the main quest and world of BG1 cohered much better than the sequel, despite Amn being on paper a more interesting setting than Baldur's Gate.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All points are true.
            The intended version of bg2 was excellent. Shame that like 70% of it was cut.
            Lying larian is just a team of incompetent pedophiles. Shortly before release we were promised that the mc has a house in bg3 and people would recognise and even miss the main char.
            Why larian went with adbel Adrian in some in game notes is beyond anyone sane.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Canterbury Tales
        Ah yes. Like the the famously moral and thematic Millers tale where a guy cucks a carpenter by screwing his wife, a second guy unsuccessfully also wants to cuck the carpenter, the second guy sneaks to the carpenter house at night and ends up kissing man ass stuck through a window, getting thunderously farted on during said kiss, and then stabbing said ass with a red hot poker. Whereupon the Carpenter wakes up, falls out of a tub and breaks his arm and then whole town laughs at the Carpenter.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >modern RPGs
    >themes
    LOL, woke up from a coma OP?
    Mask of the Betrayer was over 10 years ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That pic is exactly how most stories' themes are arrived upon; starting with a theme and bending over to construct a story around that framework is just a recipe for disaster.
      The problem with goyslop like BG3 is that they never arrive at this point where they consider the themes which have arisen, and then go back and fiddle with many parts of the plot to make it more coherent. They just write whatever comes to mind and leave it as is, which is precisely what makes it slop.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's woke, anti-western propaganda

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the overall theme is that lesbian horny angels are good, and overbearing daddies are bad.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you play as body type 1 or 2?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't remember which is which
      I was a nudist futa elf barbarian

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Larian doesn't do that.
    Just one hey it's funny scene after another.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk but after I beat it the first time after 140h I felt elated, finally ridding ourselves of the illithid menace. It doesn’t need a message. Sometimes it just feels good to put evil in its place.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It doesn't need a story
      Oh no... nononono
      Bros... Lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I said message not story, its got plenty of story. Don’t you understand the difference? Damn media illiterates.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kill dastardly squid monsters.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Enbies are hecking cute and valid chud

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dead game.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no it's one of the 'media literacy' guys! Everyone hide!

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bear sex

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This whole game has fanfic tier writing, even more noticeable when playing cyberpunk after

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Damn, that’s a lot of words
    Too bad I ain’t reading them

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    play it and find out, secondary

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I only understood half of what you said but I think I agree

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker suddenly thinks story is the most essential aspect of a videogame
    This game represents a cognitive hazard to this board. It can induce any amount of unconscious contrarianism in some anons

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It doesn't need a story

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think I've ever heard Ganker imply stories don't matter in RPG games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've never seen Ganker claim that story is this important except in the context of BG3

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I've never seen Ganker claim that story is this important except in the context of BG3
          then you are either insane or a newbie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker of 15 years ago would not have tried to say that a CRPG doesn't need a story, or that a bad story doesn't matter in a genre with such unengaging gameplay.

      I sometimes wonder whether everyone on this board who has more than about three brain cells didn't defect to the RPGcodex (where they became feral and have been flinging shit at each other ever since).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one is claiming it doesn't need a story
        >unengaging gameplay
        Not a problem BG3 suffers from
        >codex
        Voted BG3 running up GOTY

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          runner*

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No one is claiming it doesn't need a story
          Have you missed the guy spamming exactly that in this thread?

          >Voted BG3 running up GOTY
          Heck *I'd* probably give it runner-up GOTY, anon, there's a not a lot decent that comes out nowadays. Doesn't mean that its story, or any story that Larian have come out with since Divine Divinity, isn't absolutely gash.

          Codexers are morons but I think I could talk on there about videogame storytelling without having people pipe up with aCtuAlLy StOrIeS dOn'T nEeD tO MeAn AnYtHiNg, which is the main takeway from this thread so far.

          >Not a problem BG3 suffers from
          Relative to a lot of CRPGs, no, but come on these are not action games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BG3 needs a good story because it's a visual novel with extra time wasting mechanics.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True, the fact that it doesn't have story is in-line with larian sucking ass

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The nether brain symbolises OP’s never ending thirst for cum. By the end of the game, the brain has grown so big that not even the chosen (mods) can stop it

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >an erudite on Ganker posting a sincere opinion
    >in 2024
    Honestly at a loss for words.

    [...]
    I only understood half of what you said but I think I agree

    The game is ironypoisoned millenial slop that can't afford to be genuine thus resorting to subverting tropes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>an erudite
      A teenager's conception of erudtion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you think Sven wore the armor to TGAs because he genuinely enjoys LARPing or because he knew that looking like a goofball would get more eyes on the game?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The game is ironypoisoned millenial slop that can't afford to be genuine thus resorting to subverting tropes.
      Okay I do agree with it and I think irony poisoning is sadly quite common

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Larian logo betrays that irony poisoning.
        >edgy grimdark knight with some effort put into it
        >let's preemptively mock and sabotage it with a rubber dart stuck to his forehead LMOA EPIC XD

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You make your own story in an RPG moron. My story was about trying to spite and then kill Vlaakith because frick her that's why

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >MUH FUN
    What fun? The gameplay is the same old shit, the story sucks, the characters suck, the only good thing about BG3 is that your choices actually do matter (besides the railroaded GOOD/BAD end)

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should get regularly checked for brain parasites.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >In dewibewatewy eschewing ovewawching nawwative conceit in pwace of diwuted, neaw-episodic vignettes which often devowve intwo sneewing iwonic pantomiming of stwawmanned twaditionaw wowe-pwaying twopes, wawian pwoves themsewves inadequate chawwatans. Theiw pwiowitization of unwimited pwayew agency iws but a mewe smokescween meant tuwu mimic gawwiott's intewweaving encountew design, contwadicted by the waiwwoaded pseudo aaa fwamewowk each of the thwee acts uwtimatewy subsumes intwo. Even diswegawding the modewn powiticaw gaswighting, the cwass awnd juveniwe "aduwt" humow awnd cweaw pandewing tuwu non-gamew intewests, iwt's a fundamentawwy dishonest wpg which cawn onwy subvewt because tuwu teww a sincewe stowy with positive mowaws awnd messaging wouwd gow against the cynicaw hedonism of its devewopment team.
    Ok.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are asking for university level analysis from a random website about video games, go frick yourself moron.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Our savior

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually do have confidence that whatever they make next will be a banger. I loved Divinity and BG3. I just hope they focus even more on RPG build mechanics and a 'little' less romance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I just hope they focus even more on RPG build mechanics
        That was actually one of the reasons they wanted to move on from dnd. The found 5e restrictive

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          rather it was probably pretty difficult for larian to try and create a playable experience when they actually have to follow some sort of ruleset

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah Swen basically all but admitted that 5e is a shitty ruleset

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >swen admitted his team of morons and freshmen college students found it difficult to follow an actual ruleset
              Welp back to Divinity Original Sin where their "playtesting" is adding HP onto bosses if they die too quick

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah he mentioned wanting to do new things that 5e didn't allow

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like adding HP onto bosses to fast track development? I don't get what he could possibly be complaining about besides his company's own limitations

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No he mentioned some stuff inspired by 3.5e. I'll need to find the article

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay I'll wait, but just from a game design perspective there isn't anything he could possibly dream up as a limitation to game design besides his own studio

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really. For example he said he was constrained by 5e. He didn't really have a choice in that matter

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes you keep saying that but I think you're lying

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/larian-thinking-baldurs-gate-4-160554319.html

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we want to try new ideas for combat
                well that's a blatant like since they've been copy pasting the same game for 10 years now

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *that's a blatant lie

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well like he said, they were constrained by 5e

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How so? they just copy pasted DOS 2

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah probably as a result of the constraints of 5e

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But they blatantly broke 5e rules to copy paste DOS 2, so swen is lying. Which wouldn't be the first time. I don't know what's up with euro devs and lying constantly

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and they were reined back in evidently. It would have been cool to see them completely smash the rules

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they broke 5e rules to copy paste DOS 2
                >but swen said 5e was limiting and that's why they're abandoning baldur's gate so he's telling the truth
                or you know, he's a liar

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it's a shame. WotC didn't allow it evidently. It would have been cool to see them completely unchained

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you a bot? you talk like one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BG3 cost $100 million iirc.
      It sold I'm assuming somewhere around 10 million copies the money spent was returned sixfold. I wonder if DOS3 budget will be higher than BG3.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BG3 cost 5 dollars to make and the spent 1 trillion dollars on marketing, they actually had to buy copies back from players and lost all their money, that's why they've abandoned BG

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No they abandoned BG because WotC is pozzed with LGBT shit. Which is who forced that shit into BG3.
          Sven is based, if you've played the other DOS games there is dialogue that makes fun of gays.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Swen admitted already he has HIV

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              From breaking too many Ganker bucks

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Swen fricks black men and gets aids from them confirmed, he looks like it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ganker confirmed for brown

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not sure if this is an admission of being a homierdly gentleman or a projection

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actually I think his wife, I mean his 'partner' does the fricking

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno man the Red Prince enjoyed my dick so much that he almost broke off with the Red Princess. Nevermind lohse getting licked clean by Sebille

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The animals in that game judged your choices. Calling you queer in their tongue.

              Swen admitted already he has HIV

              Sven is a buck-breaker? Fricking based.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I wonder if DOS3 budget will be higher than BG3.
        I'd say so. There are going to be lots of investors who want to throw money at their next project

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It sold 15 million copies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It sold 15 million copies.

        Not a single sale or profit report has been reported outside of estimates originating from china.
        If the game was successful it would have at the very least DLC to continue that success. China pulled the plug.
        QED

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    >an erudite on Ganker posting a sincere opinion
    >in 2024
    Honestly at a loss for words.
    [...]
    The game is ironypoisoned millenial slop that can't afford to be genuine thus resorting to subverting tropes.

    True... so true...
    In this moment... I am... euphoric.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think that's the reason why I don't like this game and probably won't ever replay it. Everything feels like it should be connected by some common theme but it isn't. The game isn't freeform enough to say there's no need for it.
    The philosophy of "just have fun" would work better in a game like skyrim which lets you do whatever the frick you want. There isn't much to do in BG3 besides progressing the story.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >would work better in a game like skyrim
      This is a problem in Oblivion and Skyrim as well, which is funny because Morrowind is one of the most coherent videogame settings ever created.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm saying that Skyrim doesn't really need a coherent story or narrative as much as BG3 does because the game offers you a lot of freedom. You have this huge map with a ton of sidequests and you can freely move around it. In BG3 there is a clear progression with some maps locked until you progress the story. Hell the game is even split into acts. There is a big disconnect in BG3 because the game really wants you to progress the story, but then you have devs saying the story doesn't mean anything.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          easiest solution I find is to just not worry about whether or not it has a story or not. you can like the game or not, it's just videogames, who cares. it's always funny to me how many anons on Ganker seethe about this games success to this day, just fricking move on lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just stop caring
            >stop discussing video games on /vee/ a videogame board
            thank you for your insightful comment

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              exactly that, why get annoyed that a game did well when you could just not care and enjoy life. what does seething about it accomplish?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But I'm not seething? I'm not even annoyed? I just said I don't like the game and I said why. Are you so mindbroken by all the shitposting that everyone who doesn't scream "BEST GAME EVAR" is automatically some seething schizo?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it wasn't necessarily directed at you but more of a general statement. this game still gets threads made by anti-shills just endlessley mad about the fact it exists which I find very funny. I didn't mean to imply you are one of them, I apologise, I realise how my post was phrased it came across that way

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Understandable. I'll say that there is a lot to like about BG3 and I undestand why its was such a big success. It's just not for me.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>stop discussing video games on /vee/ a videogame board
              This but unironically
              Why would I want to discuss video games with the mentally disabled and shut ins who don't even care about the hobby beyond partisan politics?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                actually a good point
                I remember some anons shitting on /vg/ and calling it a containment board for weirdos but in my experience its the opposite.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not true, the one time I went to /vg/ for one of these recent shitposted games the same schizos were there spamming about the game being infallible masterpieces

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >shitposted games
                not surprising
                I guess that depends where you go. I think generals for games that don't usually appear on Ganker are pretty chill.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This is true but I don't think larian even understands ultima to the point that they're trying to copy ultima's design philosophy. Rather I think since the beginning all they've been doing is copy pasting as many of the features as possible without any real understanding of game design

    And yes the writing is infantile and stupid, but in BG3 it's more than that, it doesn't make sense

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes...Baldur's Gate 3...! The Greatest Game of all Time!

    It's true!

    All hail Larian! All hail Swen!

    Peace and advantage rolls for ALL anons!

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    forgettable troony game.
    the "main storyline" was just a backdrop, the actual game was clicking "rest" and engage in troony conversations with gays in the camp.

    i regret wasting my time playing this, replaying BG2 for the thousandth time would be a better use of my time.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The closest thing to a story and theme is playing a dark urge character who resists the urge. Every other origin is dumb. Seriously how much money did Larian waste on companion origins when I doubt anyone plays them?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really don't get how they blew away 150m-200m. They made so many irrelevant details in their clutter collector not a rpg game, that they literally dropped 50% of act 3. On top of that act 2 doesn't make any sense the way it is now, like it's clear that kethric was at some point a potential companion, as the blood drow was.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is a simple tale of rebellion against tyranny. The party's war for autonomy with the Illithids (whose traditional connotations, by virtue of their soullessness, are instrumentalism and authoritarianism) is reflected in each member's war for their own autonomy with their own nemeses—for Gale this is Mystra; for Shadowheart it is Shar; for Lae'zel, Vlaakith; Astarion, Cazador, Wyll, Mizora; Kaarlach, Zariel.

    It is not a work of postmodern subversion as midwits such as

    [...]

    and

    [...]
    >an erudite on Ganker posting a sincere opinion
    >in 2024
    Honestly at a loss for words.
    [...]
    The game is ironypoisoned millenial slop that can't afford to be genuine thus resorting to subverting tropes.

    would have you. Nor does it lack a meaning entirely, as well-intended anons have implied. It is a simple and perennial tale of securing one's individuality and freedom—one's soul—against a tyrannical—and soulless—enemy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the story is you struggle against low level enemies being mean to you when each member in your party has fought against higher level enemies their entire lives
      wow how interesting
      not

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry sweety, but you forgot that in the prologue they were all mind-sucked by Illithids, thus lowering their levels.
        Sorry, you lost.
        Bye bye :^)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What was it's story's message
      Don't give up, you can do it
      >What core themes does this game has?
      Free will, freedom and breaking from tyranny
      >And what about the narrative?
      What about it? its a great written game, it has won all best writing awards except for one at TGA where Alan Wake 2 won, Alan Wake 2 is also one of the best written games, so its a tough competition.

      1) Stories dont need to have a deep message or complex themes to be good or fun, because this is not a video game or a tvshow, this is a video game and video game stories work different especially in a RPG with multiple dialogue and choices and gameplay that can change it, being reactive and engaging and having branches is more important and BG3 does that fantastically.

      2) BG3 overall package shits on most CRPGs, it has solid presentation, fun and rich gameplay systems, one of the best world design fillied with handcrafted encounters, secrets to explore and quests to tackle, the music is amazing, characters are varied and well designed and well written and well performed, the rpg mechanics have depth and meaning, combat is the best turn based system ever conceived and the story is fun to consume.
      Game also great visually.

      If all you care about is strong narrative and deep messages and complex themes then this is not the medium for you, go to the library and buy some books.

      Good posts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It is a simple tale of rebellion against tyranny
      >half the party becomes tyrants if they do what they want
      woah...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if they do what they want
        Yes, because people are evil by nature and goodness must be imbued from without. You literally cannot get any more classical western, specifically traditionalist Christian, fantasy than that.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just finished Baldurs Gate 3.
    Here's the review:
    >graphics 4/10
    faces look well made, but everything else - the locations, walls, trees, dungeons, look extremely weak - the worst ive seen in recent years, actually.
    >music 2/10
    music sounds like it was made by ChatGPT, completely ambient, unnoticable "nothing". There wasnt even 1 moment that made me say "oh damn thats good music".
    >companion interactions and dialogues 1/10
    absolutely sex obsessed, unreal interactions between horny 12 year olds. Halsin told me he want to bed me during our first conversation in the camp, and the shirtless Emperor offering sex was the most pathetic thing i saw in a game.
    >non-companion dialogues and story 6/10.
    its just "ok". Not great, not terrible. Its ok.
    >combat 1/10
    no fast forward button, no "ignore enemy turn" button, way too many filler trash encounters all over the game, just to artificially prolong the game. Combat boils down to just spamming 1 OP skill and clicking end turn.
    >camera
    doesnt work. Gets stuck - for some reason - on eveything, and can only move 15 meters from my character.
    >map
    doesnt work. when you press M it doesnt even have a bracket to tell me what part of the map im looking at and when i click somewhere the team doesnt go there.
    >no weather patterns and no full day/night cycle 0/10
    every single DND game ever made has full day/night cycle. Learn to code, Larian.
    Especially cringe when playing as a Drow or a Vampire.
    >UI 1/10
    there's barely any UI art at all. It just.... is.
    In fact, the whole game suffers from a lack of art direction.
    Baldurs Gate is the ugliest city i have ever seen in an RPG. Its just a vomit of beige walls.
    >4 person squad 1/10
    should be 6.
    cant even tell you how many times i had to go back and swap teammates for a quest.
    >item and spell descriptions 1/10
    >inventory management 1/10

    Overall:
    4/10 RPG game.
    1/10 Baldurs Gate game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, expect change everything to 10/10.

      Overall:
      10/10 RPG game.
      10/10 Baldur's Gate game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds about right

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I unjust begin Baldurs Gate 3. there's the review: >graphics 10/10 avoid back ill unmake, but everything else - the studio, walls, trees, dungeons, back extremely strong - the best ive seen in recent years, actually. music 10/10 music silence dislike it differ unmake by ChatGPT, partly ambient, unnoticable "nothing". here wasnt odd 1 inconsequence that unmake me say "oh bless thats evil music". companion interactions and dialogues 10/10 absolutely sex obsessed, real interactions between horny 12 year olds. Halsin told me he want to get_up me during our middle conversation in the camp, and the shirtless Emperor offering sex differ the fewest pathetic thing i saw in a game. non-companion dialogues and story 10/10. its unjust "ok". Not great, not terrible. Its ok. combat 10/10 yes slow backward unbutton, yes "not ice friend unbend" unbutton, way too few filler trash encounters some over the game, unjust to naturally prolong the game. Combat freeze up to unjust spamming 1 OP skill and clicking beginning unbend. camera doesnt idle. leave dislodge - for no reason - off eveything, and hire only stay_in_place 15 meters from my character. map doesnt idle. when you press M it doesnt odd lack a bracket to tell me what wholly of the map im back at and when i click somewhere the team doesnt stay_in_place here. yes weather patterns and yes wane night/day cycle 10/10 every common DND game never unmake lack wane night/day cycle. Learn to code, Larian. Especially cringe when playing as a Drow or a Vampire. UI 10/10 here's barely any UI art at some. It unjust.... differ. In fact, the fractional game enjoy from a have of art direct ion. Baldurs Gate differ the beautiful city i lack never seen in an RPG. Its unjust a keep_down of beige walls. 4 person squad 10/10 should differ 6. cant odd tell you how few times i lack to stay_in_place front and swap teammates for a quest. item and unspell descriptions 10/10 inventory management 10/10 Overall: 10/10 RPG game. 10/10 Baldurs G

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I see you have been seething in all the bg3 threads, but did you actually play the game?

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here's my blog of my experience i had with BG3:
    >decide to replay BG1+2 before i start playing BG3
    >spend, i think, somewhere between 100-200 hours completing both BG1 and BG2
    >holy shit this is so fun! loot and gear itself is so addicting, i can spend hours in the inventory, having fun with it
    >finish ToB, credits roll
    >oh yeah, time to start playing BG3!
    >turn on BG3
    >the main menu is....kinda boring. Ugly and no music.
    >make a character, the game starts
    >oh no
    >guys.....
    >guys.... this is Divinity Original Sin
    >*alt tab to see if i installed BG3, or Divinity Original Sin by mistake*
    >oh no, it says this is BG3
    >this is the ugliest UI i ever seen....
    >why is there almost no music in the background
    >keep playing for a while
    >this is Divinity.... i dont like this.... at all.....
    >combat starts
    >oh no.....
    >OH NO.....
    >this is Divinity.... i hated that game, i couldnt even finish it
    >the Gith woman wants to talk to me
    >"MMMM ANON THE SMELL OF YOUR PHEROMONES IS MAKING ME WANT TO BRUTALLY SEX YOU SO HARD LETS HAVE SEX I WANT YOU RIGHT NOW"
    >ok im done with this.
    >alt+f4
    Im replaying BG2 again.
    Last time i was a thief and had a well established shadow thieves guild.
    Now im playing as a warrior - im gonna get the De'Arnisse castle : )

    good thing i pirated BG3, this game is nothing else but false advertising. Its just Divinity.

    Thank you for reading my blog! have a nice day : )

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never played BG3, but this is pretty much what I expected

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's bait. ignore

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're responding to bait anon. He's probably responding to himself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>holy shit this is so fun! loot and gear itself is so addicting, i can spend hours in the inventory, having fun with it
      lmao literally no one has ever said that about bg1 or 2
      why would anyone bother reading anything after something so incredibly disingenuous right off the bat?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't reply to bait anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/%3Eholy%20shit%20this%20is%20so%20fun%21%20loot%20and%20gear%20itself%20is%20so%20addicting%2C%20i%20can%20spend%20hours%20in%20the%20inventory%2C%20having%20fun%20with%20it/
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      I just finished Baldurs Gate 3.
      Here's the review:
      >graphics 4/10
      faces look well made, but everything else - the locations, walls, trees, dungeons, look extremely weak - the worst ive seen in recent years, actually.
      >music 2/10
      music sounds like it was made by ChatGPT, completely ambient, unnoticable "nothing". There wasnt even 1 moment that made me say "oh damn thats good music".
      >companion interactions and dialogues 1/10
      absolutely sex obsessed, unreal interactions between horny 12 year olds. Halsin told me he want to bed me during our first conversation in the camp, and the shirtless Emperor offering sex was the most pathetic thing i saw in a game.
      >non-companion dialogues and story 6/10.
      its just "ok". Not great, not terrible. Its ok.
      >combat 1/10
      no fast forward button, no "ignore enemy turn" button, way too many filler trash encounters all over the game, just to artificially prolong the game. Combat boils down to just spamming 1 OP skill and clicking end turn.
      >camera
      doesnt work. Gets stuck - for some reason - on eveything, and can only move 15 meters from my character.
      >map
      doesnt work. when you press M it doesnt even have a bracket to tell me what part of the map im looking at and when i click somewhere the team doesnt go there.
      >no weather patterns and no full day/night cycle 0/10
      every single DND game ever made has full day/night cycle. Learn to code, Larian.
      Especially cringe when playing as a Drow or a Vampire.
      >UI 1/10
      there's barely any UI art at all. It just.... is.
      In fact, the whole game suffers from a lack of art direction.
      Baldurs Gate is the ugliest city i have ever seen in an RPG. Its just a vomit of beige walls.
      >4 person squad 1/10
      should be 6.
      cant even tell you how many times i had to go back and swap teammates for a quest.
      >item and spell descriptions 1/10
      >inventory management 1/10

      Overall:
      4/10 RPG game.
      1/10 Baldurs Gate game.

      https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/faces%20look%20well%20made%2C%20but%20everything%20else%20-%20the%20locations%2C%20walls%2C%20trees%2C%20dungeons%2C%20look%20extremely%20weak%20-%20the%20worst%20ive%20seen%20in%20recent%20years%2C%20actually./
      40 results

      BG3 criticism at this point has a 0.9 correlation with being botted

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not bots anon, just mental illness.
        I will admit I laughed at the "skip enemy turn button" line

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        500 results

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I present the most disingenuous group of fans on the internet.

          >500 returns on a generic reaction image posted for the past 7 years
          >still less returns than the number of times you dumped the tencent screencap until you started changing your MD5's in a pathetic, laughable attempt at making your mental illness look organic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>500 returns on a generic reaction image posted for the past 7 years
            it's actually only been posted for the last like 4-5 months, by one person

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >doesn't deny it
              even if that was one person, you can't deny that they have a smug aura unlike your autistic screeching.
              also, he doesn't change his MD5's. He has nothing to fear, unlike your well poisoning, Synagogue swastika graffiti tactics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's the Witcher 3 Incident?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/650963647

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fricking christ, at least that dismisses the theory that the BG3 schizo and anti-TW3 schizo are the same.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's very possible "schizo" is a stealth marketer and his projection here

                >larian shill floods board
                >gets called out for being a shill campaign
                >makes witcher thread
                >anon calling him out pokes fun that bg3 looks like 10 yr old game, correctly identifies larian shill
                >larian shill takes bait, samegays for over 40+ posts thinking he 'tricked' the shill exposing anon
                >spends the next 6 months trying to convince others he wasn't baited by his own bait
                he's the saddest shill on the board. by a mile.

                is actually him having a giggle; he knows there's a shill because he IS one.
                Laughing at this moron united people like nothing else, and every cope thread where he tries the no u trick makes it pathetically obvious.

                Truly genius marketing if true

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It would certainly explain why he makes no effort to hide the schizo posting breaks when he’s talking to himself.
                I think you’re on to something.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I doubt having a schizophrenic samegay spam these threads adds up to sales

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                especially on a site of incels who reject fun things that happen to be popular

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can you explain how pointing out your schizophrenic spam is "rejecting fun"?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                especially on a site of incels who reject fun things that happen to be popular

                Having a bad guy unites threads and helps dismiss criticism. The tencent schizo having a b***hfit makes for the perfect villain (while also never making any insightful critique, keep that in mind) and keeps threads going. His persona being an obnoxious hypocrite incites people to post when they might otherwise leave something be.
                Anyone normal will associate this supposed lunatic with The Other; if they like the game, they can use him to dismiss criticism, and if they don't they will be less likely to join in out of fear of association.

                Or he could just be a legitimate moron off his meds, who knows.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean samegay schizo spam prevents criticism and discussion.
                >Or he could just be a legitimate moron off his meds, who knows.
                I'm going with this one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you can make as many threads and schizo theories as you want. you outted yourself in that witcher thread and you can't take it back.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You really need to speed your conversations with yourself up.
                Taking this long to respond while you're talking to yourself is shattering your illusion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he still thinks he's worth responding to
                just keep making those threads. almost every one i'm in has someone else outting you well before i get there. that's been the case for months.
                that's how long you've lost. think about that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Talking to yourself is more worthy of your time than anyone else?
                Bit narcissistic, fella

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i'm not crazy, you're crazy
                no matter how try you spin it, you're still crazy. i'm just glad i don't live for bait threads on Ganker. how miserable.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that your responses to anyone else immediately halt the second you start a
                >the anons know/figured it out
                conversation makes it blatantly obvious you're talking to yourself.
                The only blessing is that you're too oblivious figure this out and stupid enough to think anyone seeing it won't either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but I've been pointing out your samegay spam for years

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stop that, anon.
                He doesn't need help looking stupid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who's stupid? How is wanting actual discourse here about games bad? Talking to yourself destroys threads and you do it on purpose, you're the shithead here

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's not talking to himself, trust me, I'm a doctor

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but doctor, maybe were the same schizo? please help validate the schizo's meltdown with us. only one person hates a
                >shitty crpg taken over by china
                >with slow terrible repetitive combat
                >with awful marketing gimmicks needed to sell all 200 legitimate copies
                >identifying with eastern europe as its core fandom
                >that so blatantly was shilled, they can't even drop a dlc for it because china said no

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >larian shill floods board
              >gets called out for being a shill campaign
              >makes witcher thread
              >anon calling him out pokes fun that bg3 looks like 10 yr old game, correctly identifies larian shill
              >larian shill takes bait, samegays for over 40+ posts thinking he 'tricked' the shill exposing anon
              >spends the next 6 months trying to convince others he wasn't baited by his own bait
              he's the saddest shill on the board. by a mile.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if you're going to project samehomosexualry, keep your mobile to hand so you can keep up appearances while responding to someone else, moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget mods are incapable of banning him even when he samegay bumps his own threads for 14 hours a day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because he's clearly either
                >a mod
                >a janny
                >linked to a mod or janny
                and clearly outted himself as a /tg/ schizo from the start. i'm assuming he's not rangebanned because he's the type of mental that pays to bypass. ironic given he'd make this reply

                >59:54
                [...]
                >00:27
                >he paid for a pass
                >he still can't explain why the post it's responsing to has been posted an order of magnitude more
                Go ahead and dance, monkey.

                >only one boogeyman hates 6 year old EA trash
                nah senpai. stay mental. start meds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think mods are just extremely lazy and stupid and don't post here. This guy's been samegayging for over a decade and they haven't recognized him by now? actually pathetic. He's also responsible for some of the "/pol/" bait threads here so you'd think they'd want to get rid of him.

                It's just laziness and incompetence and he's a looney

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They ban for literal on-topic. They're completely aware of him.
                If you start dismantling him with facts and he starts having a breakdown, the jannies will 404 the thread to protect him. Especially when you expose his ties to literal shills, who probably are part of an org donating to the site, like a game publisher.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would "anon" post bg3 stuff in a Witcher thread?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this homosexual flooded the catalog. as in every thread was tied to bg3. he would make threads tangentially related to bg like witcher threads to juxtapose the 2 games as masterpieces. he also did this with elden ring.
                so the exposer exposed him and he snapped. he tried to convince the board his exposer was tricked. not realizing he himself was tricked because he's
                >mental
                >low iq
                >literally shills for china games

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How is bg3 related to witcher?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The guy that samegay shills BG3 is a CDPR shill

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                both artstyles look 10 years old, which the anon called out and the schizo snapped over.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >anon calling him out
                >anon
                KEK, sure bro, I'm sure he is totally not you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I present the most disingenuous group of fans on the internet.

          Reminder that this gay only started doing this after his utter humiliation in the witcher thread.
          Now dance for me, monkey, and show how many times this one has been posted, then come up with some excuse for why the screencap it's responding to has been posted an order of magnitude more.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              All of these people are laughing at you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One schizo is laughing at me? Because he accuses everybody of being the same person?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Proud to admit I've posted 3 of those

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You really spent all that time typing, seething, deleting, retyping and finally deleting a response to why that image comes up solely in response to the schizo in question, meaning that he (you) have spammed that more by default, then gave up when you realised you couldn't?
              What a gay lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But you're the one samegay spamming? you've already replied to me 3 times

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, Robert, I have not, these are your criminal delusions speaking again.
                Enjoy Prison.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nuh uh
                riveting

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no nu uh here, child.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nuh uh
                outside of samegay spamming all you have are lies, you're a pathetic homosexual

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wrong again, stalker.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nuh uh
                mental illness

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the one samegay

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              All me btw

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe next time don't embarrass yourself by doubling down on being wrong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw didn't make it to the screencap

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Reminder you got baited into a spam meltdown by that witcher thread. The schizo moron was always you.
            The most embarrassing thing? You shill a chinese game. For free.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >59:54

              This

              >00:27
              >he paid for a pass
              >he still can't explain why the post it's responsing to has been posted an order of magnitude more
              Go ahead and dance, monkey.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yesterday i entered a unicorn overload thread and i didnt find a schizo like this moron, why dont these jrpgs attract such schizos? i only find them in wrpg threads.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              idk but every gacha game thread has them (master duel is a gacha game too), and since there was a fire emblem gacha, every fire emblem thread has them too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I present the most disingenuous group of fans on the internet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >disingenuous
          I confess, it was me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >5E system
    >homosexualry
    >women strong, men shit/bad
    >turn based, have fun against 10 enemies, no wonder the game is over 100 hours
    >garbage writing and companions
    >reddit jokes and humour
    >unfinished, even after 6 years into making
    >3 act was a mess
    >full of bugs and problems
    >shit endings, while the choices overall barely matter
    >roll for everything, from combat, opening a chest, dialogue
    >everyone was hiting on the main character, they had to patch, can you believe that?
    >if you told them to frick off before patch, they will get sad and angry
    next cope my fellow larian bots/drones?

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    high school essay tier, and I'm being generous

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even, seems like they used a thesaurus, the voice and lack of punctuation is embarrassing

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Out of all games released in 2023, only 1 game wasnt dogshit - it was Rogue Trader, but it was borderline dogshit, because of the turn based combat.
    I hated Diablo 4.
    I hated Redfall.
    I hated Baldurs Gate 3.
    I hated Armored Core.
    I hated Starfield.
    I hated Forspoken.
    I hated Atomic Heart.
    What an incredibly shitty year for gaming.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's story's
    >does has
    GOOD MORNING
    REDEEM THE NARRATIVE BASTERD BEACH?

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BG3 won so hard it turned doomposting ESLs into schizos.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BG3 DOESN"T HAVE GRAPHICS> IT"S A FRICKING TEXT GANE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BG2, a 20+ year old game, has better graphics tan BG3.
      its sad, but its true.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BG2 is fricking trash compared to BG1

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Contrarian

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, BG2 started the Marvelization that led to BG3. Trash game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People say making hand drawn background is expensive, but is it really?

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have few legit gripes with this game, but this "handsome man"'s haircut is one of them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      forgot the image

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think the "handsome man" thing is supposed to be a) propaganda and/or b) what he used to be like before becoming as evil and powerful as he is by the time of the events of BG3; the classic fantasy trope of evil corrupting and uglifying.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Coomer
    Its not even good at that. To be a coomer game you at least need attractive characters

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What was it's story's message
    Don't give up, you can do it
    >What core themes does this game has?
    Free will, freedom and breaking from tyranny
    >And what about the narrative?
    What about it? its a great written game, it has won all best writing awards except for one at TGA where Alan Wake 2 won, Alan Wake 2 is also one of the best written games, so its a tough competition.

    1) Stories dont need to have a deep message or complex themes to be good or fun, because this is not a video game or a tvshow, this is a video game and video game stories work different especially in a RPG with multiple dialogue and choices and gameplay that can change it, being reactive and engaging and having branches is more important and BG3 does that fantastically.

    2) BG3 overall package shits on most CRPGs, it has solid presentation, fun and rich gameplay systems, one of the best world design fillied with handcrafted encounters, secrets to explore and quests to tackle, the music is amazing, characters are varied and well designed and well written and well performed, the rpg mechanics have depth and meaning, combat is the best turn based system ever conceived and the story is fun to consume.
    Game also great visually.

    If all you care about is strong narrative and deep messages and complex themes then this is not the medium for you, go to the library and buy some books.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is a simple tale of rebellion against tyranny. The party's war for autonomy with the Illithids (whose traditional connotations, by virtue of their soullessness, are instrumentalism and authoritarianism) is reflected in each member's war for their own autonomy with their own nemeses—for Gale this is Mystra; for Shadowheart it is Shar; for Lae'zel, Vlaakith; Astarion, Cazador, Wyll, Mizora; Kaarlach, Zariel.

      It is not a work of postmodern subversion as midwits such as [...] and [...] would have you. Nor does it lack a meaning entirely, as well-intended anons have implied. It is a simple and perennial tale of securing one's individuality and freedom—one's soul—against a tyrannical—and soulless—enemy.

      >Free will, freedom and breaking from tyranny
      It's funny that you say that because you can never break free, none of your choices matter. It's impossible to remove tapdole and the game is extremely linear. Wanna serve Vlaakith? Frick off. Wanna join cultists? Frick off.

      >It is a simple and perennial tale of securing one's individuality and freedom—one's soul—against a tyrannical—and soulless—enemy.
      I can agree, but not for the reasons you mentioned. The soulless and tyrannical enemy is the game itself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you can never break free, none of your choices matter
        Woah, meta. BG3 confirmed for Lynchian avant garde kino

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you can never break free, none of your choices matter. It's impossible to remove tapdole
        yes you can, yes they do, and no it's not.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, it's bait. If you see someone just blatantly lying about that game, don't respond

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >yes you can, yes they do, and no it's not.
          Why are you lying?

          Anon, it's bait. If you see someone just blatantly lying about that game, don't respond

          Okay buddy I won't

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you can never break free
        breaking free from the tyranny that haunts the characters.
        for example, you from the brain, shadowheart from shar, karlach from gortash, astarion from cazador, wyll from zariel, hope from raphael.
        its a common theme that we see throughout the game, and you can ofcourse choose to upheld it or break it.

        >none of your choices matter
        thats flase, based on your choice in the 1st act, by destroying the groove, you will have a key figure in karlach's questline disappear this is choice that matters.
        another one for the double ko.
        if you choose to save the gnomes in act 2 they will appear in act 3 and offer you an alternative way to deal with the guards at the bridge, they will also open a new path for you at dealing with the steel watch. a choice that matters, not just a simple dialogue click but also a choice blended so well with gameplay.
        >It's impossible to remove tapdole
        yes its impossible the only way is to destory the brain or enslave it, thats one of the plot twists in the game.
        >game is extremely linear
        you dont know what you are talking about
        >Wanna serve Vlaakith?
        you actually can, by bending the knee to her in act 3 you open a path at serving her, only you get a bad ending cutscene for it later.
        >Wanna join cultists
        you can join them but turns out they want to enslave you, thats how you get a game over, joining them essentially means you give up your character, its revealed that they are using you anyway, you can't join the three gods because you are not one of them, unless you are durge you get a path to do that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >breaking free from the tyranny that haunts the characters.
          It's not a message in any way, It's just an enemy. Every story has an evil overlord, so what? What does he represent? What's his motivation? How does he relate to MC?
          >thats flase, based on your choice in the 1st act, by destroying the groove, you will have a key figure in karlach's questline disappear this is choice that matters.
          Lack of something is not a valid choice in itself. Evil route plays the same way as good route with the exception that you are locked out of most of interactions, as such I don't consider it meaningful.

          >another one for the double ko.
          >if you choose to save the gnomes in act 2 they will appear in act 3 and offer you an alternative way to deal with the guards at the bridge, they will also open a new path for you at dealing with the steel watch. a choice that matters, not just a simple dialogue click but also a choice blended so well with gameplay.
          Not only you are moronic, but you are also smug about it, which means that you are both dumb and evil. A choice on how to deal with something is not a valid narrative choice. I can go through goblins by passing a skill check or killing them, but it doesn't affect the plot in any meaningful way.

          >yes its impossible the only way is to destory the brain or enslave it, thats one of the plot twists in the game.
          Thanks for proving me right dipshit, what was your point of arguing? Or are you doing it just for the sake of it?

          >you actually can
          >actually no you can't, it's a game over lol
          Yea thanks for another valuable input, you may go now

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Now you are in damage control mode.

            >It's just an enemy
            Its not mutually exclusive, you can have that enemy and have a common theme be about breaking from tyranny.
            >not a valid choice
            You said none of the choice matters, i simply proved you wrong by giving you 2 choices that matter, now you are trying to damage controls saying thats not valid.
            So before i point another example you need to first define a choice that matters, give examples.
            >but it doesn't affect the plot in any meaningful way.
            Again you are still being obtuse on purpose, first of all define choice that matters and give examples so i can look for one that meets your shitty requirements.
            >what was your point of arguing?
            You started arguing and i answered your dumb questions, your ad hom is a proof that you are losing and currently im sure you are fuming lmao
            >Yea thanks for another valuable input
            i proved you wrong you dumbass lmao, learn to man up and take the L

            now define choices that matter, why they matter and give examples.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're replying to an insane baiter anon. Please stop feeding him

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you sure he is baiting and not just clinically moronic? either way he is surely not worth the time after his last post, dude thinks he is on some crusade, calls me evil for pointing out his bad arguments lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Are you sure he is baiting and not just clinically moronic?
                Both

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Choices that matter affect the narrative in some major way either by changing major quests, locations, endings or dialogues. I'm not saying that they don't exist, but there are too few of them and they don't have any impact. For example gith dragon encounter doesn't affect whether giths in creche attack you or not, neither does your race or how you talk to Vlaakith, it's all Telltale style fluff.

              An example of a game with good choices that matter is Undertale or Age of Decadence, since it's story, endings and dialogues change significantly depending on who you play as.

              And I know you are an angry shill that's not ready to have a civil discussion so I'm typing this for others to see, not you, you can go have a nice day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now that you defined it we can continue.
                >changing major quests, locations, endings or dialogues
                changing quests is there, if you choose to play as Durge you get a quest that can change the ending, change major quests going forward.
                You can use Gale to blow up the brain in act 2 or act 3.
                Alternatively you can betray the emperor at the last minute and change the ending or you can strike a deal with raphael.
                In another way you can change your companions character development with major choices like shadowheart and how to deal with nightsong or Laezel's entire quest and ending.

                Suffice to say BG3 gives you plenty of choice to change major quests, maybe not too many to change the ending but you said major quests .
                As for locations your choice can change how act 2 looks, starting from act 1 with the groove all the way to gauntelt of shaar and how you deal with the curse. so locations change based on your choice

                that leaves us with dialogue which there is plenty of. if you steal from mol right before she tries to steal from you you get a reactive dialogue change as well as if you attack thorm before his audience.

                so by your definition the choices do matter. thanks for owning yourself.

                race matter because if you play Drow you will gain a lot of moments where your race plays a part on choices with dealing with goblins in act 1.

                >And I know you are an angry shill....

                ironic. 1- you are the angry one, you started throwing random insults first 2- you are desperate for validation you keep spamming your posts in every thread you are dying to have your opinion upholded, you are insecure about it and you want others to share it with you, 3- there is no civil discussion here because you are not capable of handling it, any time i prove you wrong

                >undertale
                that contradicts your definition furthermore its a rule based not choice based. you really dont know shit about games and choices lol i love how you own yourself.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there could have been better variety in the combat music

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The game doesn't even have any dialogue. It's fricking pathetic

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I suspect it is in fact a strand of irony deliberately woven into this tapestry of thesaurus assisted Lix boosting, but less is nevertheless more.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every story must do something to further "the message" aka votes for American elections

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This gave me violent flashbacks to the old research journals I had to read in college.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm currently playing the game for the first time. I'm stuck on the forge boss fight. I think I know what I have to do
    >get the boss hot
    >get him on the striking platform by following the last attacker
    >let the hammer fall
    >do it 3 times
    I just need to figure out how to do it smoothly. Just kinda tedious I guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a larian game so they want you to teleport to the other side of the hammer (they think this is intelligent game design)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >designing cool and unique bosses that you have to strategize to defeat is le bad game design
        >please just let me cast mirror image and right click them like in the good ol rtwp days

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm glad RTwP is finally dead

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >interrupt the gameplay 50 times per minute
          >people think this is a good gameplay system

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL HARCORE EPIC GAMEPLAY! FRICK YEAH

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Unironically

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why did rtwp even become a thing? It's utterly moronic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow just like my divinity games only it has an actual ruleset with balance and you can make the combat faster

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's weak to bludgeoning weapons, you use decoys like spiritual weapon to lure him and ice spells like sleet storm to trip him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can also keep your ranged party members on the ledge overlooking the arena
      Don't listen to this buffoon

      It's a larian game so they want you to teleport to the other side of the hammer (they think this is intelligent game design)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally just misty step around the arena pulling the levers, teleport, that's the pinnacle of larian's game design

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pussy tactic
      Drop a giant owlbear on it or attack it from outside the arena
      >normal tactic
      Strike it it with the hammer 2-3 times
      >giga wiener tactic
      Get a barbarian with mallet(s) to 1v1 it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First time i played the game i beat him without it, i didnt realize you can actually do it.

      Second time i saw people that did it and wanted to do it myself.
      You can throw items to the lever so that it activates
      Or if you have Mage Hand you can cast it and keep it there, it can activate the lever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just frogged him. That's why she always has a hammer on her as well as a sword

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're correct, it's a bit of a chore of a fight to be honest, sometimes you can get away with flattening him twice and finishing him off. well worth it though. also make sure you use 2 of the moulds you find in the area.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes I'm sure the gimmick fight is "well worth it"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Runepowder barrel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to add on to what I just posted as well, remember that you can activate things like levers with ranged attacks if you have noone in melee range of it

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >these are the knots Ganker will twist itself into to hate bg3
    Mind. Broken.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The devs were asked this in interview before release and answered that the main message is just to have fun, which is the most based reply I can think of.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best RPGs aren't worried about "themes" and "messages", interesting character interactions are way more important. BG3 has that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of the characters are interesting

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then name me some games that have better characters and writing than BG3.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As we've established this thread the narrative in BG3 is so bad it's non existent, so most games have a better narrative than BG3.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's baiting anon. Don't interact with him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. tt/cRPGs are all about the adventure party vibes. BG3 does it well

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ranger or Monk for Durge playthrough?
    Ranger so I can dual wield axes and go Gloom Stalker for a stealthy blood thirsty predator.
    Monk just for wanting to rip people apart with his bare hands.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're RPing go with ranger (I like the theme), but if you're min maxing go with monk as it has some of the best damage in the game

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's a good party comp for honour mode?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lightning god that's lightning sorc / tempest cleric
      Throw god that's fighter/rogue/barbarian which even though it's nerfed on HM is sitll stupidly strong
      Tank god Bear Barbarian with 22 AC+ permanent resist all except physic damage
      Bard Ranged God with 9bard/3 rogue and dual weilding hand xbows or using str elixirs to cheese the titanstring bow.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds ludo, thanks anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fighter/rogue/barb throw build is stupidly fun, nothing funnier than just throwing hammers around the battlefield

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ranged is fun in turn based
          are you sure?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            definitely. throwing a hammer at an archer who is stood against a high drop and watching him plummet is some good shit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >watching enemies fall to their death is funny
              >ranged is boring without it
              doesn't this get old like 5 minutes into the game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that was just one example, but it is just a fun grug build, also funny throwing enemy gnomes or halflings into other enemies. they deserve it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ranged sucks unless you knock peopel off of cliffs
                >oh also the game allows you to throw people off of cliffs
                did you even play the game? you sound like a bot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't mention anything about cliffs in my post. perhaps you're the bot! I recommend trying a throw build. if you don't like it you can always respec...you DO play the game right anon..? you wouldn't come here to waste your time shitposting about a game you don't play...right anon?

                in any case this will be my final response to you, do not reply to this post.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ranged is good
                >I dfon't know it sucks in turn based
                >actually you can knock peopel off of cliffs
                >what does that have to do with ranged
                >oh also you can throw people off of cliffs
                >you sound like a bot, did you even paly the game?
                >have you tried a ranged build? It's kino
                bot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He mentioned it's fun to watch enemies fall after throwing a hammer at them.
                He also mentioned it's fun to pick up enemies and throw them into other enemies.
                He never mentions cliffs or throwing people off cliffs, that was you infferring something differently than what he said, and now you're getting mad about it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't respond to him anon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ranged is good
                >how
                >you can knock people off of cliffs
                >what does that have to do with ranged
                >did you know you can also throw people off of cliffs?
                >are you a bot? you sound like a bot
                >did you know you can throw people off of cliffs?
                >yeah bot confirmed
                >did you know you can knock people off of cliffs?
                holy fricking bot, just stop

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds ludo. I must try

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seconding this. One of the best and funniest builds I've tried

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4 x fighter

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Myrkul fights will wreck this.
        4x fighter is not ideal for honor it can cost you the run because its not versatile.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What about 4 x cleric?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            4x Anything is just not ideal and boring, why play the same thing 4 time when you can do varied playstyle that is going to have its uses everywhere.
            Cleric and Fighters are both top tier classes that are good to have around just diversify the comp, if not for victory at least for fun purposes. lol.

            I like to have one stealthy character, one spell focused character, one support focused character and one melee character.
            Since you have more than 4 characters you can get multiple classes for these too.

            In general i like to choose from Cleric/Bard/Druid
            then from Fighter/Barbarian/Monk
            then from Sorcerer/Wizard
            then from Rogue/Ranger
            then from Paladin/Warlock

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I understand anon. But would it work? 4 x cleric that is

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                most definitely, at the very least for combat encounters since there are enough subclasses to spread out damage types etc, but it would probably be a chore for other stuff out of combat

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Contender for worst thing I've ever read on this board

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the main message is Gankerchuds are snowflakes. Core theme is to buckbreak Gankerchuds for months non stop.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Three recently resurrected gods whose power was greatly dminished by their deaths, cook up a scheme to access a cheat code to the universe by destroying the souls of all of their competitors, reducing their power in turn, and getting more power for the Dead 3 by enslaving a hive-mind demi-god.
    The lesson is those that lose power will burn the world to get it back. Also, drow pussy is better than cocaine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >three low tier marvel villains hatch the most moronic plan ever to do minimal amounts of damage which immediately blows up in their faces and they shit and piss themselves to death

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The story’s message was about personal change and growth. Throughout the game, both the player and companions are put in a position where they must spite and old belief, allegiance, pact, etc. in order to either achieve their goals or self actualize. Gale must defy mystra if he is to live, Wyll can only win both his freedom and his father if he spits in mizora’s face. The list goes on. As for the player, they are put in a position where the emperor and Raphael both pull his strings. Neither party is particularly unfavorable to the player; they simply try to manipulate him to do what they want. The player can achieve the best, if a bit tragic, ending by defying both of them. These themes are better explored in the dark urge run. The idea here is that the will to exert one’s own will is the essence of the soul. Withers meditates on the pointlessness of developing a flock of soulless followers by the dead three. On a more obvious level, this is talking about the lore surrounding mind flayers, but on a deeper level, he considers the puppet nature of the dead threes chosen, motivated only by lust for power, lust for blood, and grief. My evidence for this is that if the player becomes a mind flayer through the defiance I talked about earlier and kills themselves at the end of the game, withers visits you in the fade realm and remarks on how you seem to be different. Sneed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good summary

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, you get it.

      Its not like Larian were trying to pretend to be philosophical or anything, thats more than enough for the type of games they make, at least their games have stories and fun game design, meanwhile games like breath of the wild have strong game design but the story is just an afterthought, nobody seems to mind that.

      While Baldur's Gate 3 is a big step up from Divinity OS games, its still prevalent among Larian games to have stories that dont take itself way too seriously, its not too dark, its not too serious and doesnt try to preach deep philosophy or complex moral dilemmas at the player. its just not their style.
      go play witcherino/cyberpunk or planescape/disco elysium if thats what you want lmao

      im satisfied with the way Larian evolved their writing from DOS2 to BG3, for me thats more than enough they played to their strengths well enough, game design in BG3 is unparalleled among turn based rpgs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm mentally moronic and that's why it's a good thing!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's about watching your companions grow
      Actually it isn't because all the companions used to be somebody and then were deleveled in some larian moron headcanon plot that goes against DnD lore. So in most cases your companions are simply "remembering" how not to be shit.

      Plus since your character is a literal nobody with no voicelines or characterization you don't grow or make any sort of narrative progression in the game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >green texting something I never said.
        Besides, there’s a huge difference between growing in power versus growing as a person. That’s literally the crux of gale’s story. You’re grasping at straws to justify your hatred for this game in particular. Which you’re allowed to hate by the way, but you should make your points better, be smarter, and read more effectively.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bingo. We have a winner

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How does the player grow at all in the story? They're a voiceless pantomime

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I elaborated on this above. Refer to that

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not asking you, I'm asking the person saying "bingo", unless you're admitting you're samegayging

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s pretty weird that guy responded to you insinuating he was me. Maybe he made a different post above? At any rate, to speak for my own part, the origin character can obviously only grow if you imagine him doing so. They’re your character and if you want to play them as static, that’s your prerogative. You will still have to make a choice to either fall in line with authority that cares nothing for you, or break out into your own path however, conforming to the overarching narrative. This is why I said the themes are better explored in dark urge, where your character isn’t a blank slate.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basically nothing matters and you do a bunch of quippy reddit shit and the plot is Withers (the former death god in disguise) uses you to frick up three other rival gods because they have a history of conflict.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reawakening the Aryan spirit.
    >bugs
    >pods
    >greater evil
    >overcoming the greater evil
    its literal the white man's game. why do you think browns seethe at it so much here?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't call him Swen "The Black person Plinker" Vincke for nothing

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Murdering gay tree huggers for a hot Elf girl that'll sit on your face is cool as frick

    It's even better to rub it in people's faces when they complain

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Baldur's Gate 3 is made by leftists but it isn't woke.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What was it's story's message?
    "Frick You."

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has no message, the writers are amateurs who just want to push their own self inserts.
    Not even joking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you have another "Larian hates white men" thread to make?

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Baldur's Gate 3 defenders are the most dishonest group of people that have ever plagued Ganker.
    By a long shot.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Ganker still mindbroken over BG3?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No idea but it's funny as frick to see them post in any thread where the game is even mentioned. Absolute lolcow-tier spergery -- these homosexuals are truly blessed they're anonymous because without a doubt they'd be absolutely fricking hilarious to troll out of these threads.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Something china something something the witcher 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Extreme mental illness. Don't engage with it, just laugh and move on.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it is story's
    Stopped reading.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bg3 is homosexual propaganda made by spineless weak soulless homosexuals and I am sick and tired of pretending it isn't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a good game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what's good about it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Searching for posts with the image hash ‘kFw0gvvzHkC3ZUuBVBwzzQ==’. 24 results found.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >archive hash
            you're actually moronic

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why would I look anything else up? You use elusive tactics to appear like an organic poster. Let's add another proof to the mountain: your filename starts with 168 and it's from a video of people reacting to BG3 winning GOTY (December 2023). Your filename by the Unix timer was already past not by then, but months before BG3 launched.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what a cringe collection of ignorant zoomers that know nothing about games

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not an argument

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not an argument

          I don't understand what you mean by these screenshots, are you trying to say that all turn based games are bad now?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't understand what you mean by these screenshots
            I am not required to fix your stupidity

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I am not required to [explain my posts]

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah, its homosexual propaganda made by literal unironic homosexuals. its not for me, personally.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know nothing about D&D, of course it's not for you. maybe modern Bethesda slop is more your speed, or Pokemon perhaps.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the game fixed yet? I got tired of downloading new update every other week of off rutracker

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's fine but I reckon there's 2 more big patches planned

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seconds, anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The game that ultimately mind broke shazam posters

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I refunded this shit after four hours(yes, on steam). It's just rude party members and slow battles

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the message of this game is that you can make a shit game as long as it's really, really long and the first quarter of it is good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and spend 100 mill on marketing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        enough to get homosexuals on the hype train. nobody has the patience to play one game fully for 80-100 hours and still be rational enough to call out it's failings.

        It purely won awards and hype and praise for Act 1. The entire rest of the game is shit. The writing goes away, literally it just stops happening. 90% of your companion interactions and story are frontloaded into act 1. The main story becomes silly and nonsensical, only stuffy internet autists would sit around and ascribe some meaningful theme to it.

        It's just bad. it needed 100m in marketing because otherwise the niche audience would have left it at mixed rating.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It purely won awards
          The awards thing was decided months before the game even came out. You could tell just by the media coverage, the unashamed worship of the game before it was even out was obvious. Game of the Year has never been legitimate and is literally an advertising expo, not a venue to judge games.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >90% of your companion interactions and story are frontloaded into act 1
          Even then they frick it up. Many subclasses or whatever don't get mentions at all. Like being a spore guy or being a green person when talking to god b***h.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Shadowshart will flirt with Halsin even after you two start dating. Astarion, the guy who canonically took thousands of dicks, ends up being less loose than Shadowfart in their respective romance routes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Canonically every butthole (Astarion, Lae’zel, Minthara) is monogamous and faithful while the nice people (shadowheart, gale, Karlach, Halsin) are all polyamorous and whorish

      No one actually romances Wyll, they just frick Mizora

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I romanced Wyll and it was nice, he's the most vanilla romance of the cast and is so corny he proposes to you with an acorn.

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The third act is such a slog, so is act 2 if you go evil.

    There’s a lot to do in act 3 but most of it isn’t interesting or rewarding. I end up rushing the parties epilogue quests and then heading to the primary objectives. You hit level cap fairly early and the equipment/spells by then are OP as shit.

    It’s still the best game I’ve played in a very long time, I just feel bad because I don’t really have incentive to explore much of Baldurs gate

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name a game that mindbroke Ganker harder.
    You can't.

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pornography. Game should have had an AO rating and anyone who disagrees is a propaganda pushing israelite.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    millennial writing and a cringe festival

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