What was the real reason that some Pokmon didn't make it into Gen 8?

What was the real reason that some Pokémon didn't make it into Gen 8?
Why were they excluded from Sword & Shield?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Game freak forgot they existed

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The choices that were allowed into Gen 8 and those that weren't seems more deliberate than just forgetting that the 'mons existed.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You WILL use the new bug.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You designed it to look more like a dildo than every other bug Pokémon because you want to put it in our anuses, is that it?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Other than some specific cases like excluding the sinnoh fossils and mythicals, I don't think there was much of a reason.

        Like, following on you already have a new bug, and you need to have some old shit(plus Butterfree got a gmax) so you have Caterpie. So having the others wouldn't be a priority.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Why were they excluded from Sword & Shield?
    Depends, for some Game Freak hates them and for others they would overshadow CHARIZARD.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The reason? To make you play go, masters, unite and the coffee thingy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Masters and Cafe can't send mons to Home.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They excluded Greninja because it was more popular than CHARIZARD and so he will never come back.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      small indie company does too much work to give charizard special treatment, please understand

      Adding insult to injury is that Greninja was in SwSh's beta so it wouldn't be too surprising if that actually was the case.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Real
    To force people to buy Pokemon Home subscription to keep their mons somewhere that isn't a main series game. They are now always built with this model in mind now.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Half laziness, because making sure all Pokemon fit into one game becomes more work each gen

    The other half is because the shift in focus since Lets Go due to Go's success. And by that I mean putting more focus on catching for the sake of catching to pad out a game. Obviously, catching has always been a part of the games, you have to catch what you want to use. But since Gen 8 began wiith Let's Go, they put more emphasis on catching for different reasons. Without wild battles in Let's Go, you have to catch over and over to gain exp and candies of the same species. While at first it might seem like just transplanting Go mechanics, lets move on the SwSh, and Wild Area and raids. With Raids being a big point of their content in those games, its again about catching over and over as you do Raids, especially without the DLC since its the only way to get Gmax at first, and then Legendary Raids in the DLC. PLA is entirely about catching over and over again. And Gen 9 is bringing back raids.

    Having your old collection is actually becoming a hindrance to GF's decisions on how to pad their games now, since people who already have these things are less inclined to do it for the sake of it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      lgpe is gen 7

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Semantics and irrelevant point. Its the first game where much of their recent practices began, like the points I mentioned and not including all Pokemon or even abilities.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You probably won't get a "Real" reason until you have an event where someone higher up does a tell all while drunk.

    But the safe assumption is this.
    The pokemon models being transferred from the 3ds engine to the Switch engine had issues, probably a few things like collapsed surfaces or poor upscaling etc etc. And gamefreak didn't have the skill or will with masuda involved in fixing these changes.
    Ontop of the time restriction of what they had for the new textures they probably just cut there losses and focused on a group of pokemon they knew people would like, and added more for dlc.

    They will always say they did it for better animations etc etc, but that's complete bullshit and we've seen the evidence for it. They won't say they ran out of time or couldn't do it because it makes them look bad to investors and effects the value of the company. So they lied.
    Simple.

    Now is there a chance future pokemon games will have all the pokemon.
    Maybe.
    They would have to get to a graphical point where they no longer can go any further while keeping the original style. I could say that this gen may be the last one with dexit. Since I don't see them going further as it enters detective pikachu territory.
    They will probably sell the game as a tag line "They're all here"
    Plus the change in leadership will have some change to. Unless the next gen comes out for, switch2 or whatever the new console will be.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >being transferred from the 3ds engine to the Switch engine
      kek, you've 0 idea what you're talking about.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Now is there a chance future pokemon games will have all the pokemon.
      I dunno anon, the more the national pokedex grows, the more reasonable dexit becomes. They ripped the bandaid off too soon but it was going to get ripped off eventually. Even if we reach the point where every single pokemon has PLA/SV-tier models and animations, there's still the fact that doing movelists, including every form-changing item, etc. is all a frickload of work.
      Definitely it could happen if we had an extra-long generation (5 or so years) with at least two sets of DLC, but I don't see THAT happening either because the three-year generation keeps the merch machine oiled.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >They ripped the bandaid off too soon
        Anon, you got three years extra with it than they'd planned. I'm sorry also you don't understand "3D" means exactly that, the model takes up tangible space in the engine and game world (beyond the bits and byes that make up the thing) and that adding 900+ before adding new ones in in 3 years had reached tipping point, they were at a point where making the basic game was becoming a challenge to get done. I'm not sorry you're too stupid to understand that it was because Game Freak know no-one inside their major markets would give a toss and the potential earning loss from the leftovers was worth the risk on the whole. That you're still crying over it just proves you can't accept the normies putting you in your box.
        Also lolling at the moron still pushing the "they use it to sell Home" cope, when Mario tennis aces is outselling Home subs by 11 thousand.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Are you illiterate? I literally said it was going to happen eventually.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Don't bother. He needs to have a scathing put down to make you realise you're wasting your time so he has the win.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >They ripped the bandaid off too soon
            No, I heard you b***h over the fact they cut it when they had their worst dev cycle since having to delay Gen 2, after deciding to play nice and add it all back in (Gen 4 wasn't a shit-show disjointed dev cycle, they just couldn't get the wi-fi working right, but as it was critical to the game, had to delay to fix it).
            The game was in debug phase and they hadn't the trials coded in. that's like them making Red and Green for almost 6 years, but waiting until July '95 to add in the gyms and badges.And the BEST bit? They knew it was going to happen, had attempted to head off such problems, until executive meddling foisted it on them. Small wonder the first project on Switch dexcut.

            Don't bother. He needs to have a scathing put down to make you realise you're wasting your time so he has the win.

            Nah, just not going to baby you morons. You're an adult, you could easily educate yourself on the finer points of game development as a practice, yet instead choose to cry about your autism checklist and wonder why they cut your balls off (I assume you equate being a man with being able to whip out your dex and impress girls, yeah? Lack of dex = "i'm not a man")

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Do you have schizophrenia? Because you seem to be imagining people to argue with.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's how he does discourse
                >address post he's responding to for half a sentence
                >go on unrelated diatribe first a paragraph
                >add bad insult and character assumption
                >finish with 'stinger'
                You
                You'll get use to him

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >"3D" means exactly that, the model takes up tangible space in the engine and game world (beyond the bits and byes that make up the thing)
          Yeah, it takes too much codes to put them

          In all seriousness though
          >, when Mario tennis aces is outselling Home subs by 11 thousand.
          >every marketing decision always works and is supposed to automatically make you the best seller ever

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I can guarantee they did not do the dexcut to sell Home subs. That actually makes no sense at all since anyone who keeps pokemon in Home would do that with or without the dexcut. Nobody is forcing you to move your collection out of Bank, or whichever 3DS game you keep them in.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >I can guarantee they did not do the dexcut to sell Home subs.
              Then you'd have been able to give a proper reason in the last 3 years.
              > That actually makes no sense at all since anyone who keeps pokemon in Home would do that with or without the dexcut.
              Not really, with cut you have to at least wait till a mon rotates back in. That's how they announced Home as, the hub for your collection.
              >Nobody is forcing you to move your collection out of Bank
              Bank will be cut eventually and you underestimate how much le cloud sells among normalgays.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Then you'd have been able to give a proper reason in the last 3 years.
                Because it turns out putting 1000+ pokemon in every game is a lot of work.

                >Not really, with cut you have to at least wait till a mon rotates back in.
                You don't. You can simply not put it in Home to begin with.

                >That's how they announced Home as, the hub for your collection.
                They would have done that with or without the dexcut. Home directly encourages you to build your collection by having separate dexes for pokemon with each origin mark, as well as rewarding you for building a complete dex.

                >Bank will be cut eventually
                It has a few years left, and by then every pokemon will be available in a Switch game.
                Also, you can keep your collection in a 3DS game, which I already said.

                >and you underestimate how much le cloud sells among normalgays.
                Why does that require a dexcut? Normies will like the cloud the same amount regardless of whether or not they can put all their shit in SwSh.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >by then every pokemon will be available in a Switch game.
                Lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Only 60 pokemon are missing from all of the Switch games, anon, and several of them have already been confirmed for pre-DLC SV.

                Origin mark is based on the last game you sent it to. You're shilling for broken software.

                I'm not shilling for shit. Home is a broken piece of trash.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Origin mark is based on the last game you sent it to. You're shilling for broken software.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Because it turns out putting 1000+ pokemon in every game is a lot of work.
                kek, we've dealt with this
                >You don't. You can simply not put it in Home to begin with.
                already addressed
                >They would have done that with or without the dexcut. Home directly encourages you to build your collection by having separate dexes for pokemon with each origin mark, as well as rewarding you for building a complete dex.
                You wouldn't give a shit other than transfering, much like everyone did with bank
                >Also, you can keep your collection in a 3DS game, which I already said.
                already addressed
                >Why does that require a dexcut?
                homie, your fellow shills where "happy" they weren't "forced" to use certain mons because they simply weren't in. They'd only give Home the time of the day IF they had to, which is what's happening already. Go to normie sites and people do use Home as a collection hub, despite mons not being on switch games.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I use Bank as a collection hub because there's no natdex in gen 7, despite the fact I can put every pokemon in gen 7. I also use it to shuffle pokemon between my multiple 3DS games. Home also does these things.

                > Go to normie sites and people do use Home as a collection hub,
                They would do this anyway because even with every pokemon available by transfer, SwSh wouldn't have the natdex or the GTS.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So that the higher effort games aren't slammed for not containing all of them.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have a strong feeling that Sword and Shield was meant to be a 3DS game, and due to how shitty the port job was, they had to axe a lot of pokemon in the process.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I have a strong feeling that Sword and Shield was meant to be a 3DS game
      There's a jingle in the game's files that sounds like something that would play on the 3DS's menu, so that was most likely the case.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Not popular

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Im gonna assume they left shit like the Sinnoh starters out to incentivise you to buy BDSP

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >lack of manpower
    they thought that the switch was just a bigger ds so they sent +90% of their team to make that shitty town game or something

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Oh you've done it now

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Boomergay energy

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    dicerolls, dartboards and coinflips

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