What was up with the hate towards Japanese video games back in the early 2010s?

What was up with the hate towards Japanese video games back in the early 2010s?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They sucked. Still do btw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP
      Only Yakuza and western-inspired games like Dead Rising were ever good (and DR failed once it stopped being a Jap's take on western gaming).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yakuza isn't good

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it is.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yakuza is a better movie than movie games while having actual game content.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They sucked. Still do btw

        Nope. The Japanese are the only people making good games in the modern day. Even a dumbed down Japanese game is better than 99% of western garbage.

        The only good western games were made nearly two decades ago, with a few gems sprinkled here and there since then. The entire Western industry is dominated by Ubishit, EA and Activision. The trifecta of dogshit. Any creative talent that goes into this machine, is turned into feces.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's so creative about Japanese games? They've literally rehashed the same tropes and IPs for decades.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's the point when they do it better than westerners ever will

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Role Playing Games
              >RTS games
              >Turn based strategies
              >Management games
              >Puzzle games
              >FPS games
              >Simulators

              Sure, better... They've even lost their touch when it comes to survival horror, when compared to stuff like The Void, Signalis, Pathologic 2...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why are your "examples" of things the west does better all dead genres or outright false? the most high profile rpg of last year was japanese. japanese puzzle games and turn based strategy games are still doing fine. RTS games are literally irrelevant.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Every single one of those genres you've listed are dead, as in the best entries were made in the late 90s or mid 2000s. FPS games are in a zombie state as they try to be competitive, live service turds.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah you're just a dumb weeb

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The only good western games were made nearly two decades ago, with a few gems sprinkled here and there since then.
          this is literally no different to japan, not sure what happened to media in the past 15 years or so

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            production costs skyrocketed and small companies all got bought out by conglomerates who only care about profits, so all games are created by shareholder commitee.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dead Rising literally died when it was taken in by and made by western studios retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I said that already you mongoloid. DR only worked when it was a Jap's take on western culture and gaming concepts (which is where Jap developers always shine the brightest - taking the best parts of Western games and giving them their own flavor). DR2 was good and it was made by Canadians though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And yet Phil Fish made a crappy, watered down ripoff of a Japanese video game, Super Paper Mario

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The people that are the most aggressive are usually the biggest hyprocrites

        Both the west and the east have shitty games

        There is no "east", Japan still mogs the rest of the world, always did probably always will unless their economy crashes again.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because modern japanese games did suck. fromsoft was an exception to the deluge of unoriginal slop flowing out of japan at the end of the 7th and beginning of the 8th
        it got so fucking bad that people were acting like they enjoyed platinum games that werent bayonetta

        what a reach
        this is almost as dumb as saying smash is an outfoxies clone

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          MadWorld was kino, though

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah the only modern japanese games that sucked during that era were the westernized garbage the big publishers started vomiting out after Inafune shat on western games (before going on to make Might No. 9)
          Plenty of AA or B list Jap games were still great and much better than contemporary western games, which at the time were all horribly consolefied garbage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Super Paper Mario
        Don't know about that. But BlackBastard's games did do Fez's gimmick before Fez.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He'd be more right today than he was then, but he was still right. Japanese games have been on the decline for decades

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cringe. Check my 5

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all these fags crying based
      Give me some good alternatives to Jap games if they suck so much.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vastly superior to your moron worshipping eurojank and amerigarbage that is just 6 hour Talmud walkalongs. Elden Ring won btw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a story Phil

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have heavily stagnated from the golden age that was 80's and 90's.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that a good thing though? Shouldn't everything attempt to "stagnate" into its golden age for as long as possible?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > rips off Super Paper Mario

      There still is hate btw which is why people repeat mindless memes like and

      Japan had a hard time transitioning into the HD era.

      Plus the backlash against Elden Ring from western hack developers and discord trannies on Ganker

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan had a hard time transitioning into the HD era.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much this. Falcom rolled out a completely new engine. It has the graphics of late PS3 Bandai games.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Falcom hasn't been able to make a winning formula since Origin.
        Hopefully they can course correct with X.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Once they had Adol lose the sword and board and go to a typical jrpg outfit it was all downhill.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This PS360 was so horrendously painful for japanese devs.

      Gears, Asscreed, Mass Effect, Fallout, Halo were in the up & up

      Meanwhile japan struggled to come up with decent competitors at the time. Their on-going franchises were tanking.

      Western devs got too smug about their own shit. They started going off about casual gaming, and story-mode difficulty. And more famously "Bosses in games is outdated game design"

      Then Japan did WRPGs better then the West and the Souls Series carried japan.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japan had a hard time transitioning into the HD era.
      This

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I agree but using game freak as an example is counterproductive, these people suck because they don't try in the first place.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This, the only reason they're not dead yet is Iwata saved their asses with Gen 2 and helped push Pokemon as a game even further. He did their clean up all the damn time. Since he's passed on everyone has been noticing that GF are fucking retards and didn't learn a god damn thing from Iwata when he was still around.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japan had a hard time transitioning into the HD era.
      This

      This PS360 was so horrendously painful for japanese devs.

      Gears, Asscreed, Mass Effect, Fallout, Halo were in the up & up

      Meanwhile japan struggled to come up with decent competitors at the time. Their on-going franchises were tanking.

      Western devs got too smug about their own shit. They started going off about casual gaming, and story-mode difficulty. And more famously "Bosses in games is outdated game design"

      Then Japan did WRPGs better then the West and the Souls Series carried japan.

      >This PS360 was so horrendously painful for japanese devs.
      >Gears, Asscreed, Mass Effect, Fallout, Halo were in the up & up
      >Meanwhile japan struggled to come up with decent competitors at the time. Their on-going franchises were tanking.
      >Western devs got too smug about their own shit. They started going off about casual gaming, and story-mode difficulty. And more famously "Bosses in games is outdated game design"
      >Then Japan did WRPGs better then the West and the Souls Series carried japan.
      And ESPECIALLY this. Hell, that was the time Capcom gave Devil May Cry to Ninja Theory or Koei Tecmo trying and failing to do some Gears of War ripoff game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        , Asscreed, Mass Effect, Fallout, Halo were in the up & up
        All of those games were shit and objectively downgrades compared to their predecessors. Except Mass Effect obviously which had no predecessor, but it caught up fast by immediately going to shit with the sequel.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There wasn't. It was hate against Phil Fish, and that was it.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western hacks were jealous, still are. While Japan was trying new shit, everyone was pushing out brown and bloom shooters or indie garbage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >While Japan was trying new shit
      Their RPGs have menu-based combat since the 1980s. Unless they can easily copy something from Western games, they don't improve shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Their RPGs have menu-based combat since the 1980s.
        And guess what? It still god-tier, meanwhile, even normies aren't buying ass creed combat number 2257 and cawaadooty number 2748492947.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >JRPGs
          >God-Tier

          They're the most dumbed-down, grindfest, coomerbait with nonsensical plot I can ever imagine.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The easiest way to find the difference is to look at thief/rogue classes in WPRGs vs JRPGs.

            JRPGs:
            >pick a thief class
            >you have skills A, B and C in your menu-based combat which scale with Agility and have "roguish" names
            >maybe a unique debuff or two
            >absolutely no impact in dialogue, activities outside of combat, skills outisde of combat etc.

            WPRGs
            >can hide in shadow/become stealthy
            >can lay traps
            >can pickpocket outside of combat; in certain RPGs giving access to unique loot otherwise unavailable (even fucking World of Warcraft did that)
            >has unique quests/quest chains
            >has unique reactivity in conversations
            >has backstab, which actually requires you to position properly in combat

            And so on.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes but you don't play those types of WRPGs, you play Skyrim and Mass Effect and then pretend you know shit about videogames and that JRPGs are icky. Its embarassing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Skyrim is one of those kinds of WRPGs. It's shit either way, but still.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >unique quests
                >access to unique loot
                >can lay traps
                >unique reactivity in conversations

                No its not, Skyrim is probably as """deep""" as the latest Zelda which i haven't played because i have enough good taste to avoid open world games like the plague

                The fact that you're a disingenuous gay notwithstanding, even the examples you mentioned have more fleshed out and realised RPG mechanics than 99% of JRPGs:
                >A meaninfguru choisu? In mai gamu? Dishonorobu! Back to the combat menu!

                I guess a Nip's brain would explode if he would actually pretend to be someone with a personality, A.K.A. roleplay.

                Or you could just play japanese Wizardry or frankly most japanese blobbers, at least regarding combat they blow the vast majority of modern WRPGs out of the water, only cRPG rightfully stand above those in complexity

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that you're a disingenuous gay notwithstanding, even the examples you mentioned have more fleshed out and realised RPG mechanics than 99% of JRPGs:
                >A meaninfguru choisu? In mai gamu? Dishonorobu! Back to the combat menu!

                I guess a Nip's brain would explode if he would actually pretend to be someone with a personality, A.K.A. roleplay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                true roleplaying games are for embarassing losers, d&d is dying and no sane person gives a fuck about your garbage

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And jrpgs is pokemon for babies whats your point?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pokemon is more popular than western rolpelaying games will ever be lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >d&d is dying
                moron what? tabletop games have been growing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tabletop games have been growing
                And thats a bad thing.
                >t. /tg/ fag

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you will never be a woman

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                look up the D&D OGl drama

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>A meaninfguru choisu? In mai gamu? Dishonorobu! Back to the combat menu!
                Like Mass Effect?
                You don't play a role in RPGs from any country, you pick predefined choices with predefined outcomes. The only actual role playing where you make choices that matter is D&D.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have only played the most basic bitch JRPGs if you've played any at all. And even those basic bitch JRPGs can be made into a fun challenge if you grind minimally or not at all, or apply clever speedrun strats. When you say "grindfest" you conveniently forget this, even though a lot of JRPG fans do enjoy the grinding in and of itself and maxing out the characters stats, and you can do that part very casually while watching movies or whatever.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It's fun if you impose arbitrary limitations, because the designed mechanics are shit!
              >It's fun if you watch a movie in the meantime!

              Is this bait?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "The designed mechanics" my ass. You do not need to grind in JRPGs if you want more of a challenge. No one is forcing you to overlevel before a boss so you can beat it comfortably instead of using more clever strats and use trial and error. On the other hand grinding isn't "fun" in the sense that you're fully engaged every second of the grinding, but you have som mindless thing to do while you mainly do something else. Never grinded in an MMO RPG? Never played Diablo 2? Never played looter shooter shit like Borderlands while multitasking? It's not always about savoring every minute and being raptured every step along the way in all games, the reward is in "big number go up" or "I finally got that rare drop" after putting in work.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. Grinding in most of these games exists as a way out of might be an unwinnable situation for bad players, or for players who just want to be overpowered monsters by the end. A good JRPG lets you remain underleveled and you can beat fights by using the mechanics intelligently.

                As a kid, showing my level 99 files off to my friends provided a sense on pride. As an adult, it's about minimizing the levels I've gained and beating a game at the lowest level possible, in the shortest amount of time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes exactly and that's part of the appeal for RPGs in general for me. They work very well as time wasters across hundreds of hours with Ulillillia-like maxing of stats and biggest damage number possible as the payoff. But they also work very well as speedruns because you get to be clever about how you approach combat and other things, and percentage-wise the number of hours you shave off compared to a regular playthrough is much bigger than in your action platformers or FPSes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>It's fun if you impose arbitrary limitations,
                The arbitrary limitation is grinding to overpower fights instead of doing them at a level where they are challenging. But you are the type of people that think that if you can't dodge and run from every encounter on the way to the boss and still kill the boss, the game must be a grindfest that needs you to over level.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're pretending that western companies have EVER made an RPG with good combat. It's always cookie cutter Baulder's Gate clones, ES clones, or WoW esque shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Let me guess, you think Soulsshit is good lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's incredibly good and you will never not be mad about it. How the fuck did one japanese Z list dev embarass the entire western video game industry?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're extremely flawed and have barely innovated, but they're than any western RPG.

            >Games as a service. Endless DLC. Virtual economies. Endless reiterations of trash like CoD and Ass Creed.

            You dumb morongay.
            >microtransactions and pointless expansions
            Borrowed straight out of gacha games.
            >endless and pointless sequels
            Japan's entire vidya industry has been riding this concept since the late 1980s. Give me a Western series that has fucking SIXTEEN main titles plus another half a dozen sub-titles, like Final Fantasy.

            Nope. Pointless microtransactions, DLC and games as a service built out of the cancer that was Xbox Live and Horse Armor.

            I will give you examples of Western games with as many installments as FF. Assassin's Creed or ANY modern Ubishit property, Call of Duty, any sports property, etc.

            Guess what, majority of those FF games you brought up were released from the late 80s to 2000. FFXII came out in 2006.

            Meanwhile, XIII and parts 2 and 3, XV, VIIR and XVI are the singular mainline, HD single player FF games that have been released since 2009. Meanwhile there have been 12 Ass Creed games since 2007. There are 21 cod games.

            Nope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            play a Sting game moron

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Western games constantly experiment with the formula. Combat in Underrail is a completely different beast than in Baldur's Gate, which in turn has little in common with SpellForce, which in turn has nothing in common with WoW, and so on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big studios like Capcom resorted to being movie styled cinematic shit like turning Resident Evil into some Last of Us styled shit. please stfu

      Indiefags were getting cocky, they saw the japanese industry in difficulty because they couldn't keep up with costs and thought they were the new japanese industry, not realizing that they all lacked talent like Phil Fish. And a decade later indies have never been worse, proving they did in fact had very little to offer aside from mountains of copy and pasted roguelites and the rare gem.

      Japan worships undertale which is a western made indie game you fucking idiot

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2010 was the start of the indie trend and the few fags who caught lightning in a bottle genuinely believed they were geniuses about to turn the entire industry on its head. Fish is still just a seething gay who can't get over his newer games not being as well received as Fez was.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, Phil Fish did games after Fez? I thought he quit right after because he was that butthurt people didn't like his opinions.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He made a sequel which bombed then quit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fez 2 didn't bomb because Fez 2 never came out. He cancelled it as part of his tantrum.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Fez even that good? I don't remember nothing of it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fish himself was caught shilling the game on Ganker, that's all you need to know about its quality

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Got a screencap?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do people really believe this kind of stuff?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why do retards on the internet believe literally anything they read online. You can literally photoshop a delete button onto a tweet in less than five minutes. Fucking retard.

              I mean yeah, fuck Phil Fish. But imagine if you were just some random dev and a retard on Ganker shopped a fake twitter message of you saying you wanted to suck donald trumps toes and everyone just fucking believed it

              a little defensive aren't we

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why do retards on the internet believe literally anything they read online. You can literally photoshop a delete button onto a tweet in less than five minutes. Fucking retard.

              I mean yeah, fuck Phil Fish. But imagine if you were just some random dev and a retard on Ganker shopped a fake twitter message of you saying you wanted to suck donald trumps toes and everyone just fucking believed it

              I was here when it happened, it wasn't faked. I miss the old Ganker days. Complaining about summer meanwhile Ganker has been in perpetual summer since 2012 since dubs were removed. Fuck.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If we're talking about what really ruined Ganker and Ganker as a whole, this was what killed OC on Ganker.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                which is weird considering /LULZ/ was created specifically to nurture OC by making it impossible to post duplicate posts or replies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                robot9000 as presented as an idea was fundamentally flawed from the beginning as a Ganker board, because it leads to wordy replies with no meaningful content whatsoever in exchange for (you)s. This should sound incredibly similar to another site if you have a brain.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there is a reason moot left this place. we should all do the same.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why do retards on the internet believe literally anything they read online. You can literally photoshop a delete button onto a tweet in less than five minutes. Fucking retard.

            I mean yeah, fuck Phil Fish. But imagine if you were just some random dev and a retard on Ganker shopped a fake twitter message of you saying you wanted to suck donald trumps toes and everyone just fucking believed it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Newfag fuck
              Go away.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it's fantastic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He made a passable indie game at a time when indie games were still novel and weren't just cluttering up the steam catalogue.
      If he made fez today nobody would even know his name.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Envy

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    jealousy

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Indiefags were getting cocky, they saw the japanese industry in difficulty because they couldn't keep up with costs and thought they were the new japanese industry, not realizing that they all lacked talent like Phil Fish. And a decade later indies have never been worse, proving they did in fact had very little to offer aside from mountains of copy and pasted roguelites and the rare gem.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cave Story was an indie Japanese game made by one person only and yet it became such a huge hit worldwide that it was responsible for popularizing indie games. And the creator didn't even used connections to shill his game, unlike Phil Fish.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure but i'd readily admit that the indie industry in Japan isn't up to standards with the western one, not like it matters since indies in general are wildly overrated, they became popular after the industry was collapsing and fast

        Yeah dude your average xbox and playstation user buys regularly the last Neptunia and Senran Kagura instead of Fifa and CoD, you are a delusional

        The average isn't what keeps good series alive but even the niche player on PC doesn't really support japanese dev, they'll rather buy Farming Simulator 2017 than an actual good videogame

        PC gamers ignored jap games because japs can't into sales. Sadly the big sales era is over so japs may gain more ground but they still suck at pricing their games even for the modern, shittier sales.

        They lack the marketing power that western publishers have unless they are Capcom or Square Enix

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >still the most sovlful indie is nipponian
          >still fuckall for indies from other nipponians while westoids steal all attention, even in japan
          how

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hello anon

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are near infinite doujin games they just don't get translated.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i'd readily admit that the indie industry in Japan isn't up to standards with the western one
          WHAT?
          Are you retarded? The western indie scene is the weak, moron here.
          >Touhou a literal powerhouse with it's own events that run each year by popular demand made by one composer who's kinda shit at art
          >Ryukishi07 - horror game writer who has now made his big break into the main industry itself with Silent Hill f
          >Type-Moon - makers of the Fate series
          >AliceSoft - Eroge company going well over 30 years strong
          The west has what? Faceless mook walking sims, cat Mario knockoffs and a fuck ton of roguelites and shitty platformers.
          How do they hold a candle to developers who established a whole damn subsector of the games industry 20-30 years ago?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japs were afraid of PC and their games weren't selling because console players don't buy weeb shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >console players don't buy weeb shit

      Console players buy japanese games, its PC fags that having no taste don't care about japanese games, not even their fault per se since they neevr had access to those titles by only owning a puny computer

      He also thinks PCs shouldn't be used to play games, his opinions don't really matters.

      So he attacks the japanese industry but also attacks the main repository for western shit on the planet? I always knew Fish was a retard but not that big of a retard. Or maybe he just wanted the attention but then why did he go away?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Console players buy japanese games
        Outside Japan they don't, pc users are more friendly to weeb games from visual novels to just jrpgs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PC gamers ignored jap games because japs can't into sales. Sadly the big sales era is over so japs may gain more ground but they still suck at pricing their games even for the modern, shittier sales.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He also thinks PCs shouldn't be used to play games, his opinions don't really matters.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is Fish even up to these days? Still waiting for people to suck his dick and choke on it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's 38.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were falling behind western devs in popularity and sales, so they tried too hard to appeal to western audiences and failed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *Back in the late 2000's/early 2010's.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they just hated japanese culture i guess idk

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This image tells you all you need to know.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It really does.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's helpful to also know he's French-Canadian

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Insufferable canadian, that says enough for me. Leafs were always shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps the least flattering professional photo that anyone has ever taken

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This spawn of the antichrist is why gaming suck these days for indie devs
    Also he is the sole reason of why pixelmorons infested the retroscene and went on to shit on CRT and later on CRT Shaders.

    He is the original soiboi

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese games are fine if you just want style over substance

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese games excel at gameplay and music and generally at making highly adrenalinic games that you will enjoy since the first minute of play, a typical western game is like those videos where they keep cramming more food into burgers thinking that improves the experience because you will need to take more time eating it, a longer game isn't a better game and in fact it rarely is

      >Console players buy japanese games
      Outside Japan they don't, pc users are more friendly to weeb games from visual novels to just jrpgs

      Maybe if you stopped talking in memes you could sound like a normal human, if by "weeb" you mean japanese then you are wrong completely, if by "weeb" you just mean those games that don't pander to your western sensibilities then you are still wrong, those sell more on consoles too, that's why shmups still survive on consoles but not on PC, enjoy your euroshmups lol.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah dude your average xbox and playstation user buys regularly the last Neptunia and Senran Kagura instead of Fifa and CoD, you are a delusional

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Japanese games sell better on console than Pc
          This is fact

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't Gran Turismo still sell well on PlayStation? GT is a japanese game after all.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Boco

    Because it's true...?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut the fuck down, boco.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That’s it I’m canceling Fez 2

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but western games just sucks more.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AAA japanese games fell off, but A and AA japanese games were still just as good as ever

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where's that screencap of him actually posting on Ganker and we caught him because the screengrab of the tweet was only from the account holder, which was him.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally who?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He made Mario, I think.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan ran out of Western ideas to steal while the while man continued with his innovation. See how bugmen never invented anything worthwile to history white northwestern europeans contributed to 97% of them.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    indie game hacks thinking they were better than they actually were.
    the only person with a constructive response at that panel was the only person who wasn't a total hack, jonathan blow.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Americans still being racist Japanphobics since WW2.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's French.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        even worse, french canadian

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both the west and the east have shitty games

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Japanese were being shit on by game journalists at the time as well. They legitimately felt threatened by their vidya they made and were as racist as American businessmen fearful of a Japanese takeover back in the 1980s.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    indies were mad that people were giving japanese games more attention than their lukewarm turds. it was a bid for attention as the western indie game industry was fairly new, niche and overlooked at the time.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bought and paid for by microsoft

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Phil Fish is retarded and always has been. But now he's just a has-been.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think before From Software got popular there were no Japanese developers or franchises the mass market looked up to for a long time during the Xbox 360/PS3 era.
    FF-XIII was a low point for the FF franchise, MGS IV released in 2008 and MSG V took until 2015 to release, PES fell hard behind FIFA, Japan had no important FPS game, Nintendo decided not to compete with Sony or Microsoft, Sony focused more on Western studios, SQ too by buying Eidos and trying to have big western franchises like Deus Ex.
    I think Japan didn't adapt well to the more expensive and longer development cycles of games of that era, as the market became more competitive and demanding, eventually Japanese developers have found their market and how to handle game development in this era, but it took them more time.
    I think with Western studios being more used to PCs and consoles become more and more like PCs, Western studios found easier to adapt.
    Although now there is a crisis for Western studios that doesn't exist in Japan, at least not to the same extent, Western studios became too bloated and now both Activision and Ubisoft are desperate to big bought, and EA doesn't seem to be in their best position.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese developers or franchises the mass market looked up to for a long time during the Xbox 360/PS3 era.
      What is Gran Turismo?

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine wanting to play japanese games but refusing to learn japanese. Yep thats how it happened.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The alphabet people and their supporters are scared of attractive fictional girls.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who isn't a chud hates tranime now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think so and its unfortunate. Shemales have won, its not even a topic anymore. That's because they have moved on to their ultimate plan which is to hurt children.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tranime has infested popular culture to its core, even western media is influenced by it in some way now

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I don't know why people say otherwise. It makes sense that shemales won. 95% of all men under 50 say they have no problem sucking shemale dick because its not like they are gay. Being gay to them is being in a relationship with a man, and that alone and nothing else makes them gay lol.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      deflecting vidyAGP chud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok chud

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That explains why genderbend anime like Onimai and feminist anime like Tomo chan is popular.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its your standard yu*iggers aka pussy worship

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This was like 6 or 7 years ago, he left the game industry. Let it go. Literally all of the gg era "special boy/girl" indie devs have moved onto other things.

    Instead, their successors are ruining every major game studio now 🙂

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stagnation and a rough time going into the HD gen. Big blockbuster games and shooters were huge. The average gamer, given a choice between Another Big Shooter 3 their friends were playing and Pantsu Maiden: Requiem Nocturne Garterclism VI Pt. 4 (that had PS2 graphics) would choose the former.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Pantsu Maiden: Requiem Nocturne Garterclism VI Pt. 4
      Sounds great actually, would play.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny. The mid-00s through the mid-10s was a huge time for Japanese games for me. NIS games, Summon Night, Luminous Arc, Project Diva, I even got my first couple of imports then, one being Jump Ultimate Stars. Then with the 3DS and Vita I got into games like Neptunia and Senran Kagura. If anything, now I feel like there's an unfortunate dearth of interesting Japanese games, though that could also easily be a combination of less money, switching to PC exclusively, and just waning interest in gaming in-general.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, there was no stagnation. This is just a parrot-squawk that people perform.
        Their proof is
        >muh graphics
        ETC.
        Western gaming during that time was a drought.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >one fag hates them
    >this means everyone was hating on them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nice base boys

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thats spawn area though, its just that peopple build what they want on it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i am not joking, i think it looks cool

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            well thats nice to hear anon. theres plenty of other cool things on it too. i just have very little pics yet

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              shame bout the game version though. might as well not play

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                server is on 1.18.2 or 1.19.0 you can connect with both or pirated account too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Server is full of ironic/unironic homos
      Hard pass

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    western and asian media in general sucks dick now

    asian media is slightly more tolerable as its less pozzed but its still mind numbing shit aimed at the lowest common denominator

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese games stagnated and continue to stagnate. Tell me the last time you saw one actually do something new, switching between established styles of gameplay doesn't count.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We don't need something new, we need something good, every "innovation" and push for useless shit like better graphics ended up with making the industry worse, so fuck you and people that think like you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Innovative gameplay has never made gaming worse

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it did you mongoloid, those walking simulators that are all the rage now are something that wasn't really in vogue before, not even when they were first introduced because people at the time still wanted, no required games with good gameplay and that wouldn't put them to sleep. Shmups of the 80s that you would define "archaic" are still more entertaining that your crappy 100 hour long modern games that have more dialogue lines than button presses required

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bro you're stuck in 2013

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      80% of western games from the last decade are first or third person shooters. Stagnation isn't something only the east is guilty of.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depends what you mean by first or third person shooters. Is Portal a first person shooter?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a puzzle FPS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even BotW and ER are more "innovative" than the derivative western games we get which is saying something.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BOTW is literally recreating the achievements of 90s western developers. ER didn't innovate at all.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >BOTW is literally recreating the achievements of 90s western developers
          what did he mean by this

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Proto-ImSims, fully open worlds and physics puzzles mainly

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              can you give any concrete examples?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Tell me the last time you saw one actually do something new
      Wonderful 101

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only innovation i've observed in western gaming is innovating in how quickly you can alienate your original fans and kill your franchise while chasing the call of duty audience

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japs do plenty of that as well

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >innovated train gropes TRPG
        >meanwhile in western cuckland this trash cost 3 million dollar to make

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        god please name.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shin Chikan no Kiwami Groper of Glory
          English never ever

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        translation when?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        KINO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >call of duty modern warfare II 2.0 two

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is innovation gameplay? everything has already been done under the sun and Japan is the one who innovated the nost though

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fez was shit

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder that he didn't make a Fez II, because there was nobody he could steal Fez II from.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a time where Japanese game sales were struggling against Guitar Hero and Call of Duty clones taking the market by storm. I remember gameinformer articles featuring lists of recommended Japanese games to play because they were afraid they were gonna die out. If you weren't Nintendo you had no hope

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Ganker harass Phil Fish to the point he quit the gaming industry? Did he deserve the hate?

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    western games are so innovative. assassin's creed, god of war, the last of us. breaking new ground

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All innovative compared to jarpig slop

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey wait a minute god of war is just a dmc clone! However Assassins Creed, The Last Of Us, Uncharted, etc, are all just Tomb Raider clones so I guess the only competent game devs are brits then...

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Westcels always mad

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    modern games just suck, mr. fish

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Superiority breeds jealousy

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    weschuds devs still jealous till this day hence Elden Ring and the freaks that worked on HZD

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese media hasn't be pozzed by woke bullshit yet.
    Figures a mega SJW like Phil Fish would get triggered by that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hasn't be pozzed by woke bullshit yet.
      it sort of has, and you even have shit like hajime no ippo weirdly worshipping blacks during that early arc where he fights one

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hajime no ippo weirdly worshipping blacks during that early arc where he fights one

        what the fuck are you even talking about? ippo literally has the american hawk acting moronish, and ippo is literally a simp for everyone he fights

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          rewatch the early arc where he fights the black boxer

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >rewatch the early arc where he fights the black boxer

            what about ozuma? it's been years since i watched it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              there's quite a few weird lines in that arc about blacks that comes across like the author has a massive race complex, really strange pity-worship stuff

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese media hasn't be pozzed by woke bullshit yet.
      They've been making pozzed shit way before Steve Jobs killed the internet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is Onimai considered as Poz shit? It seems strange to see genderbend anime is popular.. (most of these are rejected by Billbill who is Anti LGBT)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ranma is pozzed
        Retard alert.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's right tho

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, he's a chud obsessed retard

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There wasn't any. Phil Fish is a psychopath who panicked when people exposed him for copying Fez's gimmick from Nintendo, so he defended his undeserved newfound fame by pretending like he hated Japanese games and thus couldn't have played the one he plagiarized.
    Kind of like that one niece-molesting guy who made a video masturbating with his own shit to claim to police that being a coprophile meant he couldn't possibly be a pedophile.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was probably already pointed out, but the Wii, and the PS3 in particular, set back Japanese game development tremendously. The Wii was under-powered, and the PS3 was a pain to develop, and also was poorly managed due to Sony's arrogance. So western "journalists" would shit on anything that was Japanese. It was basically Fromsoftware and Nintendo with the 3DS that was able to keep Japanese games relevant. Nowadays, the only good games are from Japan.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Westerners loser with an ego the moment they think their enemy is weak. Now look at where they are. Its amazing it isn't limited to just moronic western game losers, but even to higher Western government officials when it comes to Russia and China and other leftist states. No, the Western upper class even treats the lower Western class with the same smug hateful contempt.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't Fez a Super Paper Mario knock-off?

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >modern japanese games
    He was actually right. They were the absolute best in the 80s and 90s but they absolutely lost their way after that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is true for all videogames you stupid fuck

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dilate

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Phil fish isn't one to talk given that he's made even worse games, but the japanese game industry is complete dogshit. Legacy teams full of old guard boomers that don't know how to develop a modern AAA and don't want to learn how, rigid corporate structures defined by pointless philosophies that hamper game design, and a seething hatred and inferiority complex towards western devs that makes them refuse to ever collaborate or utilize the gaijin ideas. The Japanese game industry needs all of its big players to die so it can move on, but weebs have turned them into living memes that can do no wrong. They made decent shit 20-40 years ago, not anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Japanese game industry needs all of its big players to die so it can move on
      so it can become irrelevant and western companies can have all the market for themselves*
      you've been spouting this old "japanese game devs are finished" line for two decades now and it still hasn't happened, companies like capcom and nintendo are doing better than ever, new companies like fromsoft are doing better than your sorry ass would have predicted. keep repeating it though i'm sure it'll become true by accident at some point

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay HOLD ON! wait a minute.
    Japanese Visual Novels > Western Walking sims.
    Jp vn's are quick to the next scene while western walk sims have artificial loading screens in the form of walking and thus waste more time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      VNs often stall between pages for no reason as well.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I <3 Purse Owner

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always liked this one.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Japan's videogame industry had never took off, I fully believe this medium would've been dead by now, ammounting to dying wasteland of mediocre simulation games. Why are western devs so worthless?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, if Japan's vidya industry died, we would've never gotten:
      >The entire RTS genre (Age of Empires; Command and Conquer, StarCraft, WarCraft)
      >The entire CRPG genre (Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment)
      >Puzzle Adventure Games (Grim Fandango; Monkey Island; Myst)
      >Shooters (Quake, Doom, Wolfenstein, Blood)
      >Turn-Based Strategies (Civilization; X-Com)
      >Management Games (X Tycoon; Sim City)

      Oh, wait...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's really impressive how little Japan has actually contributed to vidya in terms of new genres or concepts. Is it just their aversion to PC making it so they have to stay within a very limited control scheme, so they just default to the same shit JRPG mechanics and VNs 99% of the time?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Japanese are amazing at copying and refining in that robotic "I will make a perfectly polished and and curated and framed and boutique-ready packaged product" way. But not always the best at taking risks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's literally the exact opposite
          you're comparing one (1) island country to the entire rest of the world combined, and it turns out japan has contributed almost as much if you compare them side by side. platformers, fighting games, platform games, shmups, turn based rpgs, action/adventure games have mainly been dominated by japanese devs for a long ass time

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's really impressive how little Japan has actually contributed to vidya in terms of new genres or concepts. Is it just their aversion to PC making it so they have to stay within a very limited control scheme, so they just default to the same shit JRPG mechanics and VNs 99% of the time?

        The only genres that would *maybe* be affected would be platformers; fighting games, and survival horror.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stealth games as well

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Castle Wolfenstein - 1981
            >Metal Gear - 1987

            You disingenuous morongay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >RTS
        dead genre
        >CRPG
        dead genre
        >Puzzle adventure games
        dead genre
        >Shooters
        incredibly repetitive, the perfect example of a genre devoid of innovation
        >Turn based strategies
        like Fire Emblem?
        >Management games
        the only good ones left are indie

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's plenty of innovation in shooters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, all the autistic slow burn simulators... Who cares about fun or challenge anyway?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Japanese games
          >Challenging

          >Deveroperu-sama, can I pray the game nowu.
          >No! Baka gaijin, you needu 3 hours of tutiorars moru!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you haven't played a japanese game since 1998 have you

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah it's more like 20 hours these days

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i'll just blatantly lie, provide 0 examples, and they will be none the wiser

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Persona 5

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Persona 5, here you go.

                i don't even remember a tutorial in persona 5

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >5 minutes cutscene each time they have to explain something basic like hiding, all out attack, backstab etc
                >social link didn't open up until 15 hours into the game
                >cant go to shops until the game introduced you to them in 15 minutes cutscene

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Persona 5, here you go.

                Persona is visual novel

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Persona 5, here you go.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gosh, I sure wish I had more movie games and real time strategy games to git gud at... I bet this time I will beat my SimCity highscore...

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Talking about "movie games."
              >When the entire Metal Gear Solid franchise exists.
              >When VNs exist.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Black any tell me of a western game with harder bosses than Kingdom Hearts' "secret bosses"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>RTS
        Look up Herzog Zwei before spewing bullshit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Herzog Zwei
          Retard, look up The Ancient Art of War from 1984.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Ancient Art of War - 1984
          >Herzog Zwei - 1989

          Another dumb gay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RTS are dead and for a good reason, like with FPS got mogged by FPS with RPG mechanics, RTS got mogged by RTS that are simulations like Graviteam Tactics or MOBAs, they are just too simplistic but also unfun clickfests.
        Adventure games are also dead because the western implementation was unfun, no one wants to spend time clicking all over the screen to find items, they just want to see dialogue and proceed with the story like it happens in visual novels.
        FPS also got brutally mogged by FPS with RPG elements like Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and STALKER, as soon as Doom came out the pure FPS genre was already "solved"
        I can give you turn based strategy games, in fact i can admit that westerners make better strategy games in general, that's the only genre that matters that they excel at in fact, Japan used to make pretty good management games when they had the budget a long time ago so i'm impartial.

        Big studios like Capcom resorted to being movie styled cinematic shit like turning Resident Evil into some Last of Us styled shit. please stfu
        [...]
        Japan worships undertale which is a western made indie game you fucking idiot

        Japan also worships Last of Us or whatever shitty game that the west also loves, the industry right now is just a giant pile of shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This genre is dead!
          >That genre is dead as well!

          We're not holding a popularity contest, you insecure gay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm just saying that west weirdly was dominating genres that also died or got warped into something completely different, that's why i can agree with the other guy that without Japan the industry wouldn't be remotely as large as it is now. And now that i think about it maybe that would have been a good thing, less casuals is always a good thing

            >Japan also worships Last of Us
            Don't say that to these demented fucking retarded weebs. They love pretending modern Resident Evil isn't just a last of us clone

            Imagine still caring about Resident Evil after RE4 came out, couldn't be me

            >Role Playing Games
            >RTS games
            >Turn based strategies
            >Management games
            >Puzzle games
            >FPS games
            >Simulators

            Sure, better... They've even lost their touch when it comes to survival horror, when compared to stuff like The Void, Signalis, Pathologic 2...

            Japan absolutely makes better puzzle games, the rest is as i said who gives a fuck, also no shit the west makes better simulators, they have big budgets and since they tend to have no creativity they love REALISM, which is really all you need to make a "good" simulator

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well Resident Evil has been revived though. VII, Remake 2 and Village range from good to excellent (and not in the order I listed them). The dark age of 5, 6 and Rev 1-2 is over. Remake 4 is looking to be fantastic. Capcom also confirmed there will be no cuts and it's a longer game, and have a story that wasn't made in 2 weeks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Japan also worships Last of Us
          Don't say that to these demented fucking retarded weebs. They love pretending modern Resident Evil isn't just a last of us clone

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LoU is just a moviefied Gears of War.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Funny how retards in this subleddit keep masturbating about "the revival of CRPG" when 99% of the games from this revival shit was shitty and cringe or unfinished janky as fuck

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do PC fags really? None of those are relevant aside from shooters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I fully believe this medium would've been dead by now

      Hmmm...maybe that's the real reason as to why the 1982 video game crash happened. It was truly a 100% American industry back then.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What was up with the hate towards Japanese video games back in the early 2010s?
    Blatantly obvious jealousy

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sometimes I wonder what would happened if Ultima was the one that got big in Japan instead of Wizardry.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *would have happened

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't most of the devs who were in this quit the industry?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        truly the grandest of ironies

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One made isaac reborn, other made the witness. Nothing new as of late.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was right when woke shit was on the rise and japanese games were the antithesis of it.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are people comparring western rpg's to jrpg's? Aren't all jp rpgs turn based? Last wrpg I played with turn based combat was the old fallout games (I ain't playing indie shit). Basically they're not even the same genre anymore.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Phil Fish was just your average retard forum user, who thanks to making a pretty good game, suddenly got catapulted into famousness by said game, but since he got ZERO media training, he now blasted his retard forum user opinions out to millions of people, and millions of people shouted back "You're fucking retarded".
    I mean think about it:
    >Japanese games all suck
    Super broad dumb statement
    >PCs are for spreadsheets not for video games
    Super dumb statement
    >Compare your life to mine and then have a nice day
    >I guess I'm Hitler, then
    I mean look at these and tell me you can't imagine them coming from some random dumb youtube comment, or some 15 follower account on twitter.
    Now imagine that idiot suddenly had thousands and thousands of followers. And every time he posted another shit tier opinion, thousands of those tell him he's an idiot.
    Of course he'd lose his god damn mind.
    Fuck, some anons on here lose their minds when they get 3 replies telling them they're retarded. Imagine getting thousands.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every issue Western games have with over-tutorialization, Japanese games have x10. Of course not every game, and for kids' games and family-friendly stuff it sometimes makes sense, but it's often painful.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Japanese were really struggling to move into the HD generation. Western companies like EA, Activision and Ubisoft had the finances and technology to quickly adapt to the modern generation. What ended up happening is that these companies thrives and released title after titles, while famous Japanese companies struggled. Look at a company like Squeenix, that dominated in the PS1 era - then suddenly they struggled to put out anything technically competent on the PS3. Atlus had to wait till the end of the 7th generation to release Persona 5, when Persona 3 and 4 were made fast.

    At this time, the Japanese became invested in handheld development. This is why the 3DS became such a powerhouse. Companies who couldn't release games in a timely manner on HD consoles moved to handhelds and cell phones. They could rake in money without having to invest in new technology and engines, without worrying about the huge investment that HD development took. Look at Capcom for example, with MH being cancelled for PS3 and instead being made for handhelds. Konami stopped making in-house games all together, minus what Kojima managed to pressure them into releasing. That's why they pushed for western companies to work on all their IPs, who already have workstations and available engines.

    So guys like Fish, and the big companies used this opportunity to try and dog on their competition, as they must have been salty for having been mogged for multiple generations in a row.

    What did the western dominance of that generation bring? Games as a service. Endless DLC. Virtual economies. Endless reiterations of trash like CoD and Ass Creed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Games as a service. Endless DLC. Virtual economies. Endless reiterations of trash like CoD and Ass Creed.

      You dumb morongay.
      >microtransactions and pointless expansions
      Borrowed straight out of gacha games.
      >endless and pointless sequels
      Japan's entire vidya industry has been riding this concept since the late 1980s. Give me a Western series that has fucking SIXTEEN main titles plus another half a dozen sub-titles, like Final Fantasy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Persona 3 and 4 just reused the Nocturne engine which was a refinement of the NINE engine. There was also a ton of asset reuse throughout the PS2 era. You can't really compare P3 to P5, as P5 had nothing it could reuse from previous games.

      NINE and Nocturne also had trouble development. They were developed simultaneously and the plan was always to use what they made for NINE and import what they could to Nocturne. But they failed to incorporate many of their ideas with NINE while Nocturne had a really troubled development as well. Atlus has always struggled for one reason or another, especially since they tend to have incredibly bad luck when it comes to the business side of things. Index Holding going under fucked them pretty hard as well.

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All modern games suck

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoy fighting games, shmups, platformers, dungeon crawlers, and TRPGs, so obviously I gravitated towards Japanese games at the time since they were mostly the only ones still making them (and still kinda are).
    The Western indie scene has improved over the years, at least in regards to my interests, but I'd actually argue that the AAA space has become even more stagnant and redundant.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This was during the early 360/PS3 era and yeah, Japanese games were kinda sucking.

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Finally someone said it, fuck jap games and the trannies that shill that shit.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan and the West are basically the same.

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    phil fish is such a fucking gay

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The need for websites to generate daily clickbait created the (literal) dick sucking relationship between western devs and media, and people actually believed the latter's shit until the mid-2010s.

    Like you can literally point at the timeline between GG and people suddenly believing Japanese games were good again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Paid review scores and daily opinion pieces about how Japanese are big dumb primitive babies are different things.

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They weren't doing great. They were having trouble making games that looked good in HD as flat-screen LED screens became mroe and more popular and CRT started to phase out
    Games targeting photo-realism adapted better while games built on tools and art-styles designed to use the fuzziness of CRTs suffered.
    It also didn't help that Japanese devs started chasing the trends of the west but poorly. RE5, Ace Combat 6, and JRPGs in general were kind of in the shitter. Even best attempts like FFXIII also dumbed down mechanics a ton for the west

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Americans have viewed the japanese as subhuman bugmen since they first made contact and it never changed. To be an american is to uncontrollably seethe at the thought of the japanese not being enslaved and destroyed because the white man's empire must grow larger.

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of originality. Japan kept making the same copy-paste bullshit for over a decade

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who gives a shit about Phil Fish?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker would call him based if fez came out today

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ganker is full of redditors who think Ganker is /b/, their opinion means about as much to be as a pile of elephant shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No we wouldn't, he was a pozzed leftist who was pro-Anita Sarkesian.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And thats why....
          Because this shithole is full of plebbitors and chudcord raiders.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're not fooling anyone, leftist

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goldbloom
                why is it always ~~*them*~~

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no, couldnt be the decade of trap threads

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FF13 and FF14 (OG) also besides Dark Souls it felt like there was a biiiig drought of really good Japanese games around that time and SC2, Mass Effect 2, God of War 3, Red Dead Redemption, Witcher 2, Portal 2 and fucking Skyrim all came out in the early 2010s while the western indie scene was going crazy with super meat boy, bastion, binding of isaac, terraria, amnesia, and fucking minecraft of all games.

    the west was in a massive upswing for games and japan was kind of flying under the radar.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FF13 and FF14 (OG)
      >pic related

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese girls (2D and irl) are simply too beautiful for the Anglo-American golem and induces seething rage and anguish immediately on sight

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese girls (2D and irl) are simply too beautiful
      lol no

      I will never understand why you weebs think those moon faces are attractive.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You see? In response it lashes out for it knows it’s own horrid visage barely constitutes a recognisable face at all. It is almost pitiable, were it not so vile

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How can western w*men even compete?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A good question, but sadly the fact that it need be asked at all provides the answer

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I recognize this pic from the drama general on /jp/.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They just need to stop being fat dude I'm so tired

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Presenting the worlds funniest joke
    >Western AAA games

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this guy was just a straight up egotistical ass every single time i heard anything from him. seriously insecure and incapable of any chill. i'm glad nobody pays attention to him anymore. really hope he has nothing to do with video games or people in general ever again.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese games legitimately sucking ass and/or chasing Western trends and failing. Japanese companies that were more interested in putting manpower into pachislot machines instead of commercial games. The only Japanese games in that era that weren't shitting the bed had trouble getting localized, weren't doing the best numbers they could overseas, or were highly mediocre games with embarrassing writing and underutilized tech.

    The West fucked itself by chasing the almighty dollar and turning every franchise under the sun into a GAS engine while Japan has stayed the course making good fucking video games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese games during the 7th gen were still okay, at least better than they are now. Chasing western trends is something that happened and still happens there, that's why Nintendo is now making open world games that have no music because the west does the same fucking thing, the industry shined when Japan was in command, not when the west was leading the industry, not in the "Atari" era and certainly not now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even if I agreed that recent jap games are garbage, I would still pick them over any of the shit that passes for games according to western developers without a second thought.

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    never forget

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      japanese games are shit and so are western games
      why does nobody understand what makes games good now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western developers were leaving PC development to turn into console developers, and their arrogance and seethe towards Japanese devs who were their business rivals manifested in open racism against the japanese industry.
    Jap devs, of course, had a MASSIVE lead on console gaming development since western games were always PC first until Microsoft pushed Xbox and notorious spergy retard Tim Sweeny decryed PC as a dead platform.

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Phil Fish isn’t one to criticize someone else’s work. The guy made exactly one game, had a tantrum, then left forever. His expertise doesn’t extend very far.

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck both.
    Finnish game chads where you at?

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >games from Japan such
    >JAPAN studio pumped out some of the best games of the last decade

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This board has sucked so much ever since 2018 and after Corona.
    Where the fuck are the OG morons?
    The posters here now suck dick and don’t know how to have fun anymore.
    Is there some website they all went to who care about having fun and good times like before the 2016 election meme/culture war bullshit?
    I just want to do a 360 and walk away from this video game bored.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I pretend to be one of the election tourists posting the most retarded shit imaginable, only to have people agree with me

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        unironically based. i shitpost during class (im 18 btw and you cant do shit if im not anyways moron) and make so many chuds seethe

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I pretend to be one of the election tourists posting the most retarded shit imaginable, only to have people agree with me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reddit, you'll fit right in

      I never heard of this. Sounds like indie shitters were just mad that they couldn't make legitimately good games.

      You must be new

  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never heard of this. Sounds like indie shitters were just mad that they couldn't make legitimately good games.

  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably because video games became super normalfag garbage in the 00s, so when Fish made this comment, it was really him making fun of Japs for not having jumped on the bandwagon yet.

    But don't worry, they did.

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was right. Look at any souls shit game. Japanese gaming is trash.

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western devs simply coping and seething. Still goes on to this day, although most accept and understand the order of things.

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. In Phil Fish's case it was this and when he made the executive decision to not make videogames himself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hopefully the time matches your hands soon.

  97. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok but why was HD development so hard for Japan?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You won't get an answer. It's a meme Ganker keeps spouting, hoping if they say it enough, it will eventually become true.

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey wait a minute…

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >east is le bad
    >no west is le bad
    real bros know what's up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Krauts made that. They channeled their Attila the Hun genes and made something decent.

  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe I'm just getting older, or maybe Japanese games have been slipping, but they're not as reliable as they used to be. I mean shit, we're literally memeing on Forspoken right now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      square enix has largely made shit for the better part of 2 decades, forspoken is just continuing the trend

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Disrespectful piece of shit

  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AAA gaming went to shit. The problem is Japan does not have a healthy indie game scene like the west does. If you want to make games in Japan, you must work for a shitty AAA/AA developer that pumps out low effort otaku pandering trash. Meanwhile AAA publishers in the west are investing in and even buying up indie developers because they recognize that lower budget games are the future.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you know what "Doujin" games are? Indie games.
      You should check out DLsites Allages "doujin" section, there are literally thousands of games there that are made by indie devs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >all porn
        >healthy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can't read well, can you? There is no porn in the all ages section.
          Did you know that Touhou an a "doujin" game?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >is a

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally all indie games are rip offs of Japanese games.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Other way around. Asians have never done anything original in their entire negative existance. The world would be a better place had they never existed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, if America was nuked to smithereens the world would lose nothing, you’re the most disgusting, vapid people on Earth in comparison to Japanese people.

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been playing nothing but jap games so far. DMC V, Elden ring, Bayo3, Zelda BotW, Master duel, etc.. What's a good western game that is worth a damn?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Try Hidden & Dangerous 2. It's Czech though, so I don't know if that counts as western for you.

  104. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It only blew up because a japanese guy is asking in a panel full of westerners, clearly struggling to speak english, in hopes of learning some western craft only to get shut down by "lol jap games suck"

    If it was in any other occasion nobody would give a shit

  105. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's right but he's still a massive gay.
    also japanese games are by comparison no worse than the absolute garbage that the west puts out, so the comment is meaningless at this point

  106. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most impressive part of that clickbait is that it manages to be categorically incorrect within the first four words.

  107. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's kinda right.

    Capcom was doing some fucked up shit. On disk DLC. DMC Reboot. Lost Planet got westernized via Lost Planet 3. They said the west would not like MonHun so they gave the rights to a Chinese developer thus that Monster Hunter Online game.

    Square Enix was literally going bankrupt until FFXIVARR saved their asses.

    Konami was also doing some wild shit.

    Platinum Games went to shit after making 3 amazing games - Bayonetta, Anarchy Reigns, Vanquish - and all they've made since then is terrible work for hire games. Also Bayonetta became a Nintendo exclusive because no one gave a shit about Bayonetta except for Nintendo.

    Namco & Nintendo seems to be the only ones that was consistent at the time. But everyone forgets Namco because Anime brand game goes in and out the other ears for a lot of people.

  108. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western Imperialism, unable to accept that their products were of lower quality they began a campaign of subversion against the East.

  109. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He had a point. Japan peaked in the 90s. They aren't any better now. Seriously, how many Japanese games in the last 10 years are even remarkable enough to be a contender for best game in their respective series/genre?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bloodborne, Zelda BotW, Rhythm games, Mario Kart 8, Xenoblade, FFXIV, etc.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He had a point. Japan peaked in the 90s. They aren't any better now.
      In the context of AAA games, I don't think they peaked, but there were more good games back then. I think the same could be said of good western games too. Now we get a few good games spread throuhgout the years while the rest are neutered or sterilized so they can have the least amount of effort for the highest profit. Fortunately indie games took up some of that slack.

  110. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder: He was bitchy about Zelda because it was too hand-holdy. He basically said every Japanese game is like this, and presumably western games are not. Unless you are zoomer, you will understand how fucking retarded that is.

  111. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seething jealously and xenophobia

  112. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >back in the early 2010s?
    You're implying that it's ever ended, If anything both developers and consumers are both much more openly xenophobic towards Japanese devs, and it's only gonna get worse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes really. Do you remember how many western devs were seething over Elden Ring's success? And let's now even mention how many consumers nowadays openly advocate censorship of Japanese media they find distasteful whereas before they'd just be unaware or not give a shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How are either of those things xenophobic?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because they only feel that way about those things because those things are Japanses.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you don't worship everything Japan does you're xenophobic

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah. Japan and the west can do the same thing but only Japan is bad for it.
              Take sex scenes and fanservice for example.
              There are no sex scenes in any AAA/AA Japanese game, meanwhile you have shit like OG God of War and TLoU2. But Japan is bad for showing panties sometimes or having a girl in a swimsuit as a clothing option.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because silly. When I show my disgusting chudbodybuilder do some sweaty unappealing humping I'm telling a STORY. You are just trying to make your customers happy with fanservice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This guy gets it. Japan will continue to draw the ire of the west until it's games become more congruent with western games in mechanics, themes, and social values..

  113. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wytes only have one mindset. If they rise, other must fall. Back then western game dev just finally got its footing back.

  114. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to love Japan in the 2000s

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only comparison I see is the past and the present.

  115. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still love Japan

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine the sex after a good dance workout session

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You'd have to be a shota for that.

  116. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, japanese games sucked during the PS3/X360 gen before Dark Souls came out because everyone was trying to please the US audience instead of doing their own thing. Now go check the most successful games, they are all japanese.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That began in the 6th generation, though.

  117. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  118. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I went back and watched this conference, and Phil Fish just came off like an obnoxious narcissist gay. Jonathan Blow actually had some interesting insight to offer, though.

    Did any Japanese people find out about this? Does anyone have any links to any of their responses?

  119. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What was up with the hate towards Japanese video games back in the early 2010s?
    It still hasn't ended. They just realized it looks bad to do it so publicly. Instead they take underhanded actions now like Sony's "content review" board, or Xbox flipfloping on game approval, or the whole shitshow with the handful of Steam approvers denying every non AAA japanese game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget Nintendo of America regularly checking in on development and policing Nintendo Japan's content.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This was also the era of Reggie arbitrarily deciding not to localize games in NoA because he didn't like them.

  120. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Phil Fish is a gay
    simple as

  121. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He wasn't wrong, Nip games definitely hit a nadir at around that time that they only came out of in the ladder half of the decade once they stopped being quite so desperate to appeal to the international market directly and stopped copying western design philosophies

  122. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine saying this the year Dark Souls came out, what a retard.

  123. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This dude screwed some little Japanese guy out of all of the code for that game.
    Then made these comments.

    Hilarious. Nothing funnier than these bourgeoise, white gays.

  124. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He would have been wrong in 2017-2020 when Jap devs are encouraged thanks to him. Sadly he was right in 2020. En arudin Phil Fish(In memory of Phil Fish).

    Japan used to make some great games like FFXIV,Persona 5,Nier Automata,Animal crossing,BoTW, Xenoblade chronicles 2, dark souls 3,Sekiro, Nioh,MHW,RE7,DMC5,Yakuza 7,death stranding,Smash bros ultimate, splatoon,three houses, to match even with Western games in 2017-2020, but how can they fall so soon and Dominated by Genshin so easily?

    Genshin is the Black ship(Which opened the Japan's door in 1860) which turns Elden ring,Sekiro,Bloodborne,Dark souls 3,DMC5,MHW,RE7 into shovelware.

    MH rise, Soul Hackers 2,SMTV,Pokemon SV,FE engage shows the Japanese game's fall. For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021.

    Where did Japanese game's glory when they revived in 2017?

    At least we west have Hogwart,Starfield,Diablo 4,Cod MW2,Elder scrolls 6,Dragonflight.

    Phil Fish was right. En Arudin Phil Fish.
    En taro Mihoyo. Na adan Hoyoverse. My life for Mihoyo!!! Arun nal adar! China'ahzum!!!
    China is the Protoss/Eldar of Reality.

  125. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were doing some fucking stupid shit.
    Just look at Capcom and their boneheaded retardation during then. Asura's wrath and Marvel 3 are good examples of this, not to mention the whole megaman legends 3 debacle.

  126. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The early 10s was a moment of weakness for Japan so westoids tried their hardest to capitalize in that. Like soulless vermin vultures circling arlund what they thought would be a dying industry.

    A shame that Japan completely dabbed on the west in the latter half of the decade and continued that momentum.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And 2020s was even worse than PS360 era for Japan. Japan used to make some great games like FFXIV,Persona 5,Nier Automata,Animal crossing,BoTW, Xenoblade chronicles 2, dark souls 3,Sekiro, Nioh,MHW,RE7,DMC5,Yakuza 7,death stranding,Smash bros ultimate, splatoon,three houses, to match even with Western games in 2017-2020, but they fall so soon and Dominated by Genshin so easily. which turns Elden ring,Sekiro,Bloodborne,Dark souls 3,DMC5,MHW,RE7 into shovelware.

      Recent games like MH rise, Soul Hackers 2,SMTV,Pokemon SV,FE engage are so Kusoge that they show the Japanese game's fall. For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021.

      At least we west have Hogwart,Starfield,Diablo 4,Cod MW2,Elder scrolls 6,Dragonflight.

      Phil Fish was right. En Arudin Phil Fish.
      En taro Mihoyo. Na adan Hoyoverse. My life for Mihoyo!!! Arun nal adar! China'ahzum!!!
      China is the Protoss/Eldar of Reality.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japan used to make some great games like FFXIV,Persona 5,Nier Automata,Animal crossing,BoTW, Xenoblade chronicles 2, dark souls 3,Sekiro, Nioh,MHW,RE7,DMC5,Yakuza 7,death stranding,Smash bros ultimate, splatoon,three houses, to match even with Western games in 2017-2020, but how can they fall so soon and Dominated by Genshin so easily?

        Genshin is the Black ship(Which opened the Japan's door in 1860) which turns Elden ring,Sekiro,Bloodborne,Dark souls 3,DMC5,MHW,RE7 into shovelware.

        MH rise, Soul Hackers 2,SMTV,Pokemon SV,FE engage shows the Japanese game's fall. For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021.

        Where did Japanese game's glory when they revived in 2017?

        At least we west have Hogwart,Starfield,Diablo 4,Cod MW2,Elder scrolls 6,Dragonflight.

        Phil Fish was right. En Arudin Phil Fish.
        En taro Mihoyo. Na adan Hoyoverse. My life for Mihoyo!!! Arun nal adar! China'ahzum!!!
        China is the Protoss/Eldar of Reality.

        He would have been wrong in 2017-2020 when Jap devs are encouraged thanks to him. Sadly he was right in 2020. En arudin Phil Fish(In memory of Phil Fish).

        Japan used to make some great games like FFXIV,Persona 5,Nier Automata,Animal crossing,BoTW, Xenoblade chronicles 2, dark souls 3,Sekiro, Nioh,MHW,RE7,DMC5,Yakuza 7,death stranding,Smash bros ultimate, splatoon,three houses, to match even with Western games in 2017-2020, but how can they fall so soon and Dominated by Genshin so easily?

        Genshin is the Black ship(Which opened the Japan's door in 1860) which turns Elden ring,Sekiro,Bloodborne,Dark souls 3,DMC5,MHW,RE7 into shovelware.

        MH rise, Soul Hackers 2,SMTV,Pokemon SV,FE engage shows the Japanese game's fall. For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021.

        Where did Japanese game's glory when they revived in 2017?

        At least we west have Hogwart,Starfield,Diablo 4,Cod MW2,Elder scrolls 6,Dragonflight.

        Phil Fish was right. En Arudin Phil Fish.
        En taro Mihoyo. Na adan Hoyoverse. My life for Mihoyo!!! Arun nal adar! China'ahzum!!!
        China is the Protoss/Eldar of Reality.

        What?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For it looks so pathetic. Japanese game supposed to revive on 2017 by Phil's encouragement. But was it liar?

  127. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >JAPAN SUXKS!
    >West has yet to develop an action game half as good as the worst MH
    >DMC still stands at the top of the pile of stylish action games decades later, the only contenders are also developed by Japanese
    >The only fighting games that matter are Japanese
    Hilarious, this thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I tried playing monster hunter world on the Xbox one and it was really bad, unironically would rather play vanilla Skyrim.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You sound like a bad video game player, like grandma tier, and not one from today but one back in the 80s.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro all these stupid western fps and qte creed really fucked up your brain

  128. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why it is always western people with glasses are the most arrogant?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that fucking censorship
      Bill Clinton's tendrils run deep I see

  129. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    soiboy looking fags like him are constantly shitting on jap games but people for some reason still try to associate sois with weabooism with memes like "thing thing japan"

    leftists hate japan. get it through your fucking skulls

  130. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right. Japs are stupid cowards who love grindans. Talentless in every way, their games are an insult to art. Never play moron shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japan used to make some great games like FFXIV,Persona 5,Nier Automata,Animal crossing,BoTW, Xenoblade chronicles 2, dark souls 3,Sekiro, Nioh,MHW,RE7,DMC5,Yakuza 7,death stranding,Smash bros ultimate, splatoon,three houses, to match even with Western games in 2017-2020, but how can they fall so soon and Dominated by Genshin so easily?

      Genshin is the Black ship(Which opened the Japan's door in 1860) which turns Elden ring,Sekiro,Bloodborne,Dark souls 3,DMC5,MHW,RE7 into shovelware.

      MH rise, Soul Hackers 2,SMTV,Pokemon SV,FE engage shows the Japanese game's fall. For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021.

      Where did Japanese game's glory when they revived in 2017?

      At least we west have Hogwart,Starfield,Diablo 4,Cod MW2,Elder scrolls 6,Dragonflight.

      Phil Fish was right. En Arudin Phil Fish.
      En taro Mihoyo. Na adan Hoyoverse. My life for Mihoyo!!! Arun nal adar! China'ahzum!!!
      China is the Protoss/Eldar of Reality.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >who love grindans
      There are no Jap games that you have to grind in to beat the main game.
      Any post game or extra content is made for people who like that kind of thing. All main game content is doable without grind. However this doesn't mean you can skip everything but the bosses and win. Anyone who brings up grinding only outs themselves as a shitter who can't think enough to beat a game they supposedly call "press attack to win" without spending hours to get power beyond the intended level of the encounters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah i never play moronshit piss of you fucking zipperhead

  131. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jprgs have always been shit

  132. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    90% of the western indie scene wouldn't exist without japanese games to rip off. That includes Fez.

  133. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the transition to HD and chasing western trends turned them to shit. How many near and dear Japanese franchises had an entry considered the best during that gen?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disgaea 4 is usually concidered one of the best in the series (Under Disgaea 1, of course)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did Switch sold more than PS5 and XSX worldwide then?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the transition to HD
      Graphics are not a good thing. Notice the quality of western AAA dropped hard when the quality of graphics increased.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Resolution isn't graphics. It's the exact opposite.

  134. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Discordspammers are getting very transparent

  135. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo and Sega used to carry the Japanese industry. Sega died after the dreamcast and Nintendo was dead during the Wii/Wii U casual era. But with Nintendo stepping up again the japs look much better now.

  136. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's not wrong, all throughout the 00's japan fell way way behind the west in sales in pretty much every genre with Fromsoftware being the only outlier. Theyve been turning it around since 2015 or so now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, 2020s is even worse than PS360 era, for Japan used to make some great games like FFXIV,Persona 5,Nier Automata,Animal crossing,BoTW, Xenoblade chronicles 2, dark souls 3,Sekiro, Nioh,MHW,RE7,DMC5,Yakuza 7,death stranding,Smash bros ultimate, splatoon,three houses, to match even with Western games in 2017-2020, but they fall so soon and got mogged by Genshin so easily. which turns Elden ring,Sekiro,Bloodborne,Dark souls 3,DMC5,MHW,RE7 into shovelware.

      Recent ones like MH rise, Soul Hackers 2,SMTV,Pokemon SV,Fire emblem engage were pure garbage which shows the Japanese game's fall. For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021. OW2 has metascore of 85.(Junker Queen main)

  137. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a step to ~~*Westernize*~~ them. Sadly, it worked out all too well.

  138. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Americans are disgusting, uptight and arrogant people who are lashing out now because Japan makes better games than them. they need to be carpet bombed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But Their glory when they revived in 2017 has fall so soon in late 2020 when Genshin mogs even Elden Ring,Sekiro,Bloodborne,DaS3,DMC5,MHW,RE7,BoTW. And recent Kusoges like MH rise, Soul Hackers 2,SMTV,Pokemon SV,FE engage shows the Japanese game's fall. For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021. Right? (Overwatch 2 has metascore of 85)

      At least we west have Hogwart,Starfield,Diablo 4,Cod MW2,Elder scrolls 6,Dragonflight.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the fuck are you talking out dumb schizo chink?
        Chinese people are automatons incapable of making anything new or original.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And Lies of P will mog every Japanese game.which is Pure Korean development. No Japanese or Western devs poached at all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lies of P is a rip off of Bloodborne.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its fucking blantly ripoff you fuvking piece of shit suck a cock

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >For there is no Japanese game with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84) since 2021. Right? (Overwatch 2 has metascore of 85)
        https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/all/filtered?year_selected=2022&view=detailed
        What?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why is OW2's score even lower than Kusoge named FE engage?

  139. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is a few years before western entertainment went off a cliff, so for a brief time his statement was at least arguable.

  140. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s funny how these threads are always made while the catalog is filled with Japanese games. It’s like all the fucking gays who agree with Fish are Reddit crossboarders who don’t fit in on Ganker.

  141. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan went into the PS3/XB360 with little access to the major middleware that the West was, commonplace dev tools such as Unreal Engine were at the time of limited use due to their lack of Japanese language documentation. While that would be eventually resolved, in the mean while they had to roll their own solutions which were often less versatile or more time/money consuming, leading to failures and set backs like Crystal Tools and later on Panta Rei.

  142. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fez was great.

  143. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >100% fez before I knew fish was a complete gay
    I was thinking of replaying it but I have no desire because phil is such a fucking fag.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like him. Also Fez has no poop people it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The most bitch thing he did was rage quit game development. He had to be addicted to social media to be that affected.

  144. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a whole entire thread and only like one of you remember to say "suck my dick choke on it"
    disappointment

  145. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Western shit is filled with shitty pozzed open world garbage, live service cancers and le depressed quirky indieshit
    >Ganker still defends western shit to the ends of the earth when they are the cancer killing gaming
    I swear its a bunch of PC fags that cant let go the fact that the western games theyve all grown up with either had their series die, genre die or turned into a soulless husk of itself so they lash at japanese games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I swear its a bunch of PC fags that cant let go the fact that the western games theyve all grown up with either had their series die, genre die or turned into a soulless husk of itself so they lash at japanese games
      It's just WRPG fans the senile old fucks. Try asking them about good WRPGs released recently and see what happens.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying japanese aren't pozzed
      Have you played any Nintendo game recently? They're even more pozzed than western games now

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They're even more pozzed than western games now
        >more pozzed than western games
        PFFFF HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Even China censors less than Japan now. Japan got bikini banned from the weebshit by feminist NPOs like Colabo,PAPs and Kishida, the sweet male feminist PM. Their anime got bikini banned since last summer. And Even FGO got swimsuit toned down as ugly shirts to be "appropriate" to Colabo,PAPS and Kishida's Gender Equality Department. Japan got Porn banned by new law on AV, by PAPS. China have no feminists. Azur lane got bikini restored.

  146. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What with this retard ar toran el dono nadono arurun shit? some forced meme?

  147. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Three Rules of Western Inferiority Complex
    >You can end “the thing about Japanese games is…” with anything and people will nod along
    >The failing of any Japanese game is indicative of all Japanese games
    >The success of any Japanese game - design, sales, critical or technical - is at best anecdotal and irrelevant
    Looking at this thread, i think this is pretty accurate

  148. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT PC fag meltdown

  149. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has he even made a game since Fez? Even if he was right, they're still better than the fucking garbage the west is pumping out. Sweden is the best western dev country right now, that's how shit the state of westerns games is.

  150. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FROM single-handedly redeemed Japanese gaming in the HD era.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FFXIV,Persona 5 and DaS3 has revified Japanese game in thanks to Phil Fish's encouraging and bitter word.

  151. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    racism

  152. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't know what Fez is

  153. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Phil and Japan can both get fucked. The best industry was the European one before IBM compats became universal and the industry got ovverun by Intel, Microsoft and the American shart of endless gnomish greed under which we all now live.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cope, Eurofag. You stopped being relevant when the Amiga died.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look at me, I'm a European Amiga dev, it's 1993 and I still can't do platformer controls correctly even though Mario has been out for over half a decade

  154. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2010 pixel indie devs were basically delusional neckbeards who thought they could do better than the Japanese classics lol

    It's part of the demented white psyche to overestimate and aggrandize themselves

  155. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember every other day some western gay writing an article claiming the death of JRPGs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They’re attacking imagepoch as worst thing ever when they made amazing toushin toshi remake on 3ds. Toki to towa had dun battle system but high encounters

  156. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    these people don't play games for its own sake. They play games to gain clout and add to their social identity. Its not about fun, its about letting people know what you play.

    So Phil here realizes that telling his friends he played Seiken no densetsu Watari: The Soaked Panties of Hanamura won't improve his social standing at all. He has to tell them he played a game like Gone Home. Even if Seiken no densetsu Watari: The Soaked Panties of Hanamura is ten times the better game than Gone Home, it isn't mainstream so it adds zero social credit. Its useless to Phil.

    They aren't gamers or people who even like games, they only consume what's placed in front of them or what algorithms decide they can see.

  157. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shit take

  158. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western journalists propaganda since they’re getting paid by western companies to shill their gay shooters and walking simulators. I remember shilling for grafxxx when they looked like shit. Gamergay exposed paid reviews

  159. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cute asian girls!

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