I actually found a hidden note while fucking around in Pacifica before ever starting that quest, which made it far more satisfying. In it, some goon tells Placide that the Scavs want to sell some netrunning gear, and Placide tells him to agree to the trade, but don't pay them, just shoot them all. Scavs deserve it, but when I met Placide during the main quest, I remembered that he's a cunt who isn't above getting his end out of a deal and then killing his business partners. Made it very easy for me to sell all of them out to Gambit when I met him in the mall, didn't even mind being used as a trojan horse to cook their circuitry.
when you meet brigitte she calls placide a "basic animal" in creole - or something along those lines. you have to translate that shit yourself though, the game wont do it for you. placide is a big dumb nig by his own people's standards, essentially
i am actively hostile to these haitian fucks. i hate haitians so fucking much it's unreal. they are one of the few groups of people on earth who universally deserve scorn. props to Pondsmith for accurately capturing just how incompetent and shifty the fucking haitians are.
the portrayal of the VDB was really weird
they make you sit through a 10 minute walking cutscene that's intended to show how well-liked and what a pillar of his community Placide is
but he's an absolute cunt to you and is just begging to be killed
and this is all from a writer (Pondsmith) who claims that the VDB are his favorite faction. favorite to hate, i guess? because the VDB are gross and even if they were nice to V i'd hate them, they are ugly and incompetent. "oh but they're SUPER good netrunners" bullshit just going by in-game feats they are jobbers at best. they get fried every time they try something more difficult than low level thug shit.
>and this is all from a writer (Pondsmith) who claims that the VDB are his favorite faction. favorite to hate, i guess?
i think they're ideologically interesting because in 2077's world there isn't much you can do to fix the colossal problems other than just burn the entire place down. That might be what Pondsmith likes, they come to a logical conclusion that's insane and behave as such.
>there isn't much you can do to fix the colossal problems other than just burn the entire place down.
That won't fix anything though, you're just wiping mankind and replacing them for a new monster.
A lot of things pondsmith says make 0 sense and it's clear he just enjoy his setting being something instead of the garbage forgotten shit it was before.
I love how the game allows you not only to actively antagonize them but completely turn on them killing them all. Without ever punishing you for daring to go against modern holy cows
>props to Pondsmith for accurately capturing just how incompetent and shifty the fucking haitians are
aren't 2077 voodoo boys basically cdpr oc donut steel?
Fuck those guys. I literally went above and beyond - forgave that they tried to kill me and they still were fucking cunts who screwed you over. Most accurate depiction of black people in media in a long time.
When you get out of cyberspace and you see all those backstabbing naggers deepfried in their netrunning chairs was easily the most satisfying thing I experienced in my playthrough.
NTA but after learning about the AIs and the blackwall it's certainly tempting to. VDB are trying to fight on the side of AIs in the upcoming AI vs human war they think is coming.
Still more of a "not my problem" situation but VDB are definitely not the good guys.
It's not just that, the VDB don't understand that AIs don't give a shit about them, yet they keep fiddling with the blackwall.
Literally a bunch of retard risking Human Annihilation.
I did, and I've done it every single time I've played 2077. I don't feel bad about it and they all deserve to die. What they're trying to do will all but guarantee the end of the world. They're a doomsday cult.
They will. Mr Blue Eyes is on the balcony when you meet Peralez. He's also at the spaceport and hooks songbird up with the trip to space. And gives V the casino mission in the reaper ending. Arasaka is small fish compared to Mr Blue Eyes. He works for Bogdanoffs.
The Lina Melina quest line was quite entertaining
If you had completed Sinnerman prior to doing that gig, you can get a text from Rachel asking about this up and coming BD star trying to pitch her show. You can say "yeah I know them, they got talent" and that's enough for them to get the show picked up which I thought was nice
Oh and this snazzy bike
Call me a fag but I'd rather make the 'right' choice morally than the one with the better rewards. I was happier knowing the guy was cured than having yet another bike when I only use Jackie's one anyway.
Funnily enough, I think Tool gets a better life living as Toolina as it's implied by Shank he'll eventually snap back to his senses to an extent and recognize the "Toolina" personality as an act. A great act mind you but it'll take time for his brain to unfuck itself
However I do think the best morally correct choice is having him Eminem snap back to reality by hearing his letter read aloud by Lina.
Living as a "lost sister" or coming back to reality are really the only good options. Having him think he's an FIA clone is probably the worst lmao
Visiting Judy's home town with her while she uses technology to help her remember things that she took for granted at the time.
Sinnerman is second for showing how capitalism will ensure the same technology will be used most often for evil instead of good because since being good is hard, the majority is evil and advertising to evil is more profitable.
Kerrys attempts to sabotage us cracks and his all arc in general. Fun thing is if you fumble throwing your grenade Kerry just stands there and facetanks it like a boss
>Kerry instantly recognizing Johnny by his guitar playing >the Totenzas club >actually playing a concert >kerry implying he was about to off himself in the shower >trashing the yacht in pure rockerboy fashion
Fuck, his is always the last questline I do and after Us Cracks I usually go meet Hanako. Last playthrough I even skipped two days just to make sure I wasn't missing any content before entering Embers and still didn't get an invite from Kerry.
Does that also happen if you get Kerry to become friendly with Us Cracks?
>stranger breaks into his house and plays an extremely well known song that consists mostly of power chords >kerry immediately believes it's his dead pal from 50 years ago
I know it's probably just the writers misunderstanding musicianship, but my headcanon is he was so desperate that he just went along with V's story without truly believing it.
the Peralez questline. I genuinely did not see it coming and it did a great job at sucking me in in the existential dread it presented. It's a masterpiece of interactive horror and i guess it works so well because you don't see it coming.
I knew this shit worked hard when i was walking to do another quest and overheard the name peralez on the tv and immediately dropped whatever i was doing to listen
he probably recognized stuff like how V was moving, not just the music playing. How he holds the guitar, sits and the little movements can go a long way, especially couple with what you mentioned
The one where there was a game dev company that lied about what features would be in the game for 10 years only to release a buggy shitty GTA clone that is somehow worse than Watch Dogs
>The one where there was a game dev company that lied about what features would be in the game for 10 years
ok true >shitty GTA clone that is somehow worse than Watch Dogs
have a nice day
It's hilarious how much they lied. They couldn't even get the driving and traffic to work yet they are saying your gonna be able to customize and mod your cars. Lmao.
>Every car spins out at the slightest provocation like they're driving on ice and all the weight is concentrated in the tailpipe.
I'm gonna be blunt with you here; that's basically how all RWD, High Horsepower Muscle cards handle IRL
i know you're lying because V's starter car is practically impossible to spin out and a lot of the high-end cars are obscenely responsive, the herrera outlaw handles really well
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think all of the Nomad Cars are 4WD, which means they handle very well as well.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
some cars are really shit on MKB but remember, the vast majority of this board was filtered by GTAIV's driving. they suck at it
I play a lot of racing games. It literally is a skill issue. So much so that I can't actually figure out what the people who say this must be doing wrong. I've heard so many conflicting reports about what's wrong with it, the most confusing one being "the cars are impossible to control but the bikes are easy" because it's the total opposite. The bikes' turning circle is wide as hell and they lose control at the slightest touch under heavy braking. I feel like I've popped into bizzaro world whenever this topic comes up.
the devs seemed to try and make driving actually pretty realistic, at least compared to stuff like GTAV, Watch Dogs etc.
Which admittedly is kind of an odd choice, for the video game where you can became a Digital Wizard that explodes peoples minds with the power of the Internet but whatever.
are those real wheel drive muscle cars with a lot of horsepower?
because uh, that's just sort of how real wheel drive muscle cars with lots of horsepower handle lol
nobody ever bought a Challenger to take a corner man
I like how their answer as to why there wasnt fuctioning car chases with the police. Was that car chases was a unrealistic demand and btw nobody complained that there wasnt car chases in Elden Ring. So clearly people are biased against CP77
Why we can't have nice things? Is it that hard to let the player change the car configuration? There are dozens of auto shops, so let us pay to swap the colors.
i really liked that in GTA San Andreas there were special pay n' spray shops that let you custom your cars.
they didn't let you do that in GTA4 and that sucked.
Yeah I think so. The story is good, Dogtown looks great as a run down cyberpunk setting, sidequests and gigs are more interesting and have more going on in them, and the OST is way better than the main games.
10000%. the ending i got was absolutely amazing. better than the main game ending. also dogtown and cool locations and story. its an incredible expansion.
Overall performance is shit and it's still pretty buggy, but in general it felt like a big step up from the base game. Story is legitimately great tier imo and even the side jobs/gigs were engaging.
Only done the intro and a little bit of dogtown so far. And for now, fuck no. I have hated every second of it. It's like they learned all the wrong lessons and doubled down on the exact worst parts of the original game.
Endless talking about nothing.
The intro is like a full on 2010 call of duty campaign. Complete with waiting around for NPCs slowly walking over to open doors for you.
Want to to anything other than the 1 thing the game wants in the 1 specific way you are intended to do it? flatlined, try again.
I felt the story didn't really pick up until after you rescued Myers 2bh. Overall I felt it gave the player a decent amount of choice in how to handle things, although there were a couple occasions in which player choice was clearly sacrificed in order for things to play out like the writers wanted. The face off with Reed at the end of Songbird's route, you're telling me there's literally no way to deal with him non-lethally or do anything other than pull out this random revolver and flatline him?
They made it pretty clear that Reed is extremely loyal to the NUSA and stubborn to an autistic degree. He will continue to serve even after they sold him out to Arasaka. He is the ultimate cuck
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. NUSA has fucked him and everything he cares about over and over again and he is still delusional. He thinks the NUSA is good for the long run, refusing to acknowledge the constant shit they pull. Either that or he just hopes things get better (they won't). If he doesn't die by your hands he'll die from some other suicide mission the NUSA sends him on, on his hill of cope.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Or as Johnny says. He will hang himself
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. NUSA has fucked him and everything he cares about over and over again and he is still delusional. He thinks the NUSA is good for the long run, refusing to acknowledge the constant shit they pull. Either that or he just hopes things get better (they won't). If he doesn't die by your hands he'll die from some other suicide mission the NUSA sends him on, on his hill of cope.
Knowing the fact that Reed was screwed by NUSA several times, he probably might have gone insane at some point
The thing is, that he doesn't seems to be a total dirtbag jerk character, like the rest of in PL, it's the contrary, you can see he cares about Bird
It feels like he is just that much autistic/retarded, to the point he genuinely thinks that returning Bird to her torturers will be better for her
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hes a good dog with a bad master. As one Anon put it, back when the dlc first came out
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sure, but he's not an actual dog. He's human, and capable of critical thinking. For how much he is about choice, consequences, and facing just punishment for crimes committed, he never turns that philosophy against the agency and government that have committed all these crimes against him. And that's why, to continue with the dog analogy, putting him down is doing him a favor. As Johnny says, for him that's as good as it gets.
That's also why I chose the Songbird, despite seeing her scam with the cure coming from a mile away. Out of the three agents, she's easily the least buckbroken, and the only one willing to actually follow through on her play for freedom. Alex is on the fence, but at the end of the day she still hopes for official retirement with FIA support, so while she's pissed and had much of her life ruined by them, much like Reed, she can't just let go. Songbird might be manipulative, but at least she's got the balls to do what needs to be done to get out of her abusive situation. Considering how V's story is all about agency and identity, freeing her seemed the most fitting route.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I dont disagree. The best endings are sending her to space or mercykilling her and then spitting the president in the face
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Man, i really really wanted to blow myers head in the airport. Ill deal with the consecuences, fine, just let me fucking shoot
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I remember the wiki used to say her status was determinant. But i dont think theres anyway to kill her
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you take too long to save Myers at the beginning she dies, Songbird's pissed, and the DLC story immediately ends.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ahh. Makes sense but is a bit dissapointing
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think killing the president of the NUSA might cause waves that go beyond the scope of the game, so they just didn't let you do it. Hard to justify V just casually carrying on with the rest of the game after that.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Myers said it herself. She was never there and nothing happened. I assume that the attack on the spaceport is as black ops and falseflagged as possible. So if noone sees you kill her. Then who's to know?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Then who's to know?
Reed, Alex, presumably every other glowie who knows about Myers being there and not coming back. Yeah, they do falseflag the spaceport assault, but there's still people who are involved and know what's going down. Who's to say they can't make up shit about how and where the president died, and still finger V for it? A head of state getting shot is tough to cover up.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And i just got undocumented and untracable tech installed that allows me to fake my entire body and fake my identity. Good luck finding me
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
During Songbird's ending V suggests using the face tech to infiltrate the spaceport, Songbird tells you then outright that FIA has their tech flagged and will know when it's being used and by whom. You could make a case that there might be a ripper out there talented enough to file off all the serial numbers, but it's still top secret tech, and reverse engineering it sufficiently likely takes a lot of time. And the one ripper we know of who's intimately familiar with it is unlikely to lend a hand.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That's also why I chose the Songbird
Besides, knowing V's outcome in any of endings, knowing that V is doomed no matter what, choosing to help Songbird will save at least someone's life. At least someone will be free from all the grim things happening in PL and NC in general.
But... siding with Idris gives an ability to cast satanic magic, so... Sorry, nothing personnel. Omw to listen Cyberdemon remarks on the plot/endings
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Besides, knowing V's outcome in any of endings
Technically, I would argue that you have an okay chance at having your freedom if you accept to "sell your soul" to Arasaka while having Takemura alive, the guy seem pretty dedicated to what he value and would probably stop you from being fucked.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
My headcanon is that if you save Songbird and chose to sign up the contract with Arasaka, she will find out about enrgam shard with your personality and will do everything in her strengths to save you, like you did everything to save her. She will get an engram and will find a "willing" victim (with functional chrome too) to write your personality over.
Or maybe even tried to get you from Cyberspace if you give your body to Jhonny.
GG, everyone is alive, RIP Reed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Soldier >Critical thinking
Pick one and only one.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Fair, but he's still a glowie who managed to go undercover on his own for seven years, and who comes up with detailed plans for involved ops, so he can't be a complete retard. There's something going on between his ears, and his critical thinking works just fine whenever it's pointed at someone else or even himself. He's just got a massive blind spot for the FIA and NUSA, which is the tragic part because they're directly responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to him or anyone else in Phantom Liberty, including the "villain" Hansen.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He's as big as a corpo-slave as Goro is, if not more so. His whole life has been working for the NUSA, to the point where doing anything else is something he can't fathom.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This
Imagine trusting a literal glownagger that always finds his way back into the fold like the beaten dog he is
Couldn't be me ( or my V)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He's as big as a corpo-slave as Goro is
Goro calling me during most of the endings to insult me and imply his suicide actually hurt a little. He's a corpo-slave, but he filled the important role of humanizing the people that make up a corpo, and you got to know him enough to understand and maybe even like him, despite his choice in master.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Goro is interesting, because V (and by extension, the player) can get juuuust close enough to see under those tired, beaten eyes, there is a genuinely honourable and caring man. The problem is, he has already pledged that honour to someone you can accurately call "Japanese Cyber-Hitler", and there's no going back from that really.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
One thing that bothers me is that Arasaka isn't nearly as evil as it could be.
It's certainly not as evil as the FAGMAN IRL. It's just Imperial, Japan, Inc.
This makes the Arasaka route a lot more attractive and feel a lot less like a Faustian bargain that the writers might have intended it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Corpos are corpos, simple as.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
not really
what does Arasaka do? sell arms? oh my golly Gee that's horrible
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Did you actually play the game? I have a hard time believing you did
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
they used soulkiller on people who attacked them first?
once again, boo hoo
the aren't shown to be nearly as power hungry and insidious as Google, for example
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they used soulkiller on people who attacked them first?
They peddled soulkiller as advanced cryogenic stasis for the rich and influential as a smokescreen to steal their psyches and consolidate power. And that's just their latest scheme. You learn more during the corpo lifepath, which has you starting out as one of their personal glowie squad dealing with espionage and assassination.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your pals with a guh who destabalise governments for Arasaka. In the corpo path
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the aren't shown to be nearly as power hungry and insidious as Google, for example
are you being intentionally retarded or are you just that fucking stupid? pretty much every megacorp in lore has done much more henious shit than google, this is on the wiki as well in the numerous little text things you see while doing shit in open world
>songbird is a pathological liar
Out of necessity. Used to be a smalltime cyber-criminal who fucked with corpo sites until she was blackmailed by Reed to join FIA or have herself and everyone she cared about feel the long glowing dick of the law in one way or another. Lying to anyone and everyone is the only way out for her in a profession where honesty gets you nowhere. >and with her fucking with the blackwall
The only reason she did is because Myers forced her to, and her whole reason for going to the moon is getting rid of that Blackwall shit. Myers is the kind of frigid cunt to just find another gifted runner and force him to fuck with the Blackwall for personal gain.
holy simp
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>holy simp
I'm just saying that this shit doesn't exist in a vacuum. Songbird plays everyone, and lies to everyone, including V. But you're also in a plot about secret agents, traitors, and corrupt government officials at the highest level constantly backstabbing each other and pulling off clandestine operations in order to achieve some personal goal. Being a pathological liar comes with the territory, and taking it as a personal slight and not a matter of course is pretty fucking shortsighted.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
dude songbird's ability to leak the blackwall into the "realnet" or whatever they call it is dangerous. songbird is near smasher tier if you look at her body. in the last act of PL if you choose to betray her, she's hardly a human intelligence, more like a wierd blackwall pupett
meyers is stupid for trying to re-capture her, bitch needs to go down for the good of everyone
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>songbird is near smasher tier
song is stronger seeing as how smasher is a pile of spare parts now. inb4 arasaka >hehe we downloaded smasher's brain to a Metal Gear Ray :^)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
how could she be stronger in the grave?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
well if they are both dead they have to fight in hell
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah she's dangerous, and killing her is justified in that respect. But she's just a symptom, not the real problem. Fast forward 5-10 years, and I'm sure Myers or the next president has successfully groomed the next blackwall penetrator borg.
Also, in a grander sense, giving Mr. B the chance to cure her might be interesting when it comes to dealing with shit beyond the blackwall in the future.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The cherry on top was her making diversion to flee by killing too much of people, yeah fuck it, shes as bad as Myers and the rest
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They didnt just use it only criminals. They used it on anyone they wanted to own and could get away with.
Theres also the whole releasing poison into the groundwater and sponsoring the Yakuza
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
still nowhere near as evil as Google
also, i'm not sure it's ever specifically named which corp poison the water in Santo Domingo
Nightcorp would be the most obvious one
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>also, i'm not sure it's ever specifically named which corp poison the water in Santo Domingo
Pretty sure Muamar says it's Arasaka. Which is why you steal the truck from them.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
oh, God, that mission >playing first time >hack cams >go out of my way to disable every guard without raising an alarm >even shoot out the tyres of every nearby car so Arasaka can't give pursuit >soon as you get in the truck, 2 fully alert guards spawn behind you >HUGE MORAL QUANDARY TIME: WILL YOU LET THE GOOD COP DIE TO SAVE THE KIDS? >keep the truck undamaged by hacking every enemy vehicle before they get close >WHAT THE FUCK V THE GEAR IS RUINED!
this is the kind of shit why i hate CP despite having spent so much time with it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pretty much same here. Hacked everything and everyone before they could even fire a shot, somehow the gear is ruined. Guess the truck got spooked and shit itself or something. Kinda wish we'd gotten over games just lying to you about how you failed in cutscenes or railroad missions like this one, but somehow even after decades of making fun of this exact thing, devs are still doing it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
and CP is filled to the brim with moments like that
in Sinnerman, the husband who hires you is scripted to immediately die if you aggro or silently take out the policeman that shoots him
someone went out of his way to make sure the guy always dies instead of recording a 2 second additional line that says >well done, V, my revenge is complete
they even disable saving to deter you from trying to keep him alive. why? are the writers that desperate to make sure i pick the alternate route?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>in Sinnerman, the husband who hires you is scripted to immediately die if you aggro or silently take out the policeman that shoots him
this quest fucked me up for like an hour before i realized it was on-rails. i kept pulling in and trying to pivot around the weird forced slowdown of your car, hacking or sniping the cop from insane distances, and just bricking it. you can absolutely get into a situation where the guy who hired you is stuck there aiming at nothing, shouting things like "get down!" or whatever.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
did you save the guy
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the policeman? yes
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
well there you go. if you don't save him then the equipment doesn't get damaged and everyone else is happy.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
no kidding, that anon is complaining that the gear being lost is tied to the cop surviving rather than any actual damage the truck receives while rescuing him or escaping after
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
what the fuck mission are you talking about
I guess this game was really forgettable because I played it 3 times...
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Its a hidden quest from the DLC. You need to steal an ambulance, in order to get it you either need to steal 10 cars for El'Capitan or get lucky with the random chance after staling cars
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
oh it's a dlc mission
haven't picked that up yet
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
In the opening scenes of the corpo lifepath they outright murder half of the UN bureaucrats involved with some lunar something or other in order to cover arasaka's ass on some fuckup and maintain lunar access rights.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not to cover it up. But to buy themselves 3 weeks time to come up with a cover up
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you're arguing with a schizophrenic retard who probably hasn't played the game, anon
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
again, big whoop
that's just corpo on corpo warfare
they're not trying to dictate everyone's way of thinking
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just let him die during the safehouse raid.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i need him alive so i can laugh at his place in life
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i generally like this ending but i think it tries to hard to make you feel bad. V has a shitton of money and it makes zero sense that ypu'd not pay off rent in advance or just outright buy the place. it conveniently ignores that you have other properties so that they can put you at rock bottom. i also think maintaining a coma patient's shaved head for 2 years is just fucking cruel and why did they take V's eyebrows. Panam is a cunt too
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's the future, so there probably isn't even a "buy the apartment" kinda like how you can't buy movies on netflix, only rent them.
for the rest i thought the various characters made sense. They know you're on death's door and you tell them "two more weeks" then disappear for years.
judy has always made it clear she was gonna leave night city and move on, kerry is very willing to help you as soon as he can and panam... i think she may have committed suicide. I found it very suHispanicious how they keep telling you "please don't go looking for her"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it does make sense but even the 2 weeks thing shows a lack of forethought on V's part. you'd think V would learn after countless betrayals and scheming government officials and corpos that maybe things won't go as people say they will. i'm just pissed because corpo V especially should be smarter than that and have some sort of contingency plan where you get your affairs with your friends and loved ones in case of a prolonged absence or potential death
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Panam seemed to be the one most upset with V disappearing actually, it's just she handled it in the usual Panam, getting angry and yelling. She had to leave regardless.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
panam is a womanchild. needy little slattern who throws a hissy fit when she doesn't get her way and whose only redeeming feature is a fat ass
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
his life started in the trash heap
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, but it was Trash Heap, Japan.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wish you had an option to just turn your back on your old life and take Reed's offer for a job at Langley in this ending. Especially if you delivered Songbird to them so you're in Myers and the FIA's good graces
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it leaves it open for headcanon really, nothing to say V didn't just visit NC for closure and then went back to accept Reed's offer. V has a lot of options, it's definitely the best ending as far as V's future goes but it's shit for pretty much everyone else you knew which is the point i guess
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nothing is stopping V from taking the job at Langley after the Tower ending. I know people tend to shit on that ending but its just another fresh start for V, he’s free to live out his way in every way that is not being a legendary solo. He can go to Langley, he can go with Misty, he can open a garage somewhere and tinker with machines for the rest of his life or whatever else he wants.
after seeing PL ending, this one is now my ideal ending for V. It keeps your promise to Johnny that you'll let nothing change who you are and after PL and the shit he was doing to the Peralezes, Blue Eyes really is your best chance at getting fixed
Definitely reddit moment. Pathetic
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3rd one is talking about sun ending
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Misclicked, sorry
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's ok
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nothing is stopping V from taking the job at Langley after the Tower ending. I know people tend to shit on that ending but its just another fresh start for V, he’s free to live out his way in every way that is not being a legendary solo. He can go to Langley, he can go with Misty, he can open a garage somewhere and tinker with machines for the rest of his life or whatever else he wants.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And considering the Corpo background. We know that V would be able to succed as a handler og in a management position in the agency
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The only background I could see struggling is the street kid
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He's as big as a corpo-slave as Goro is
That speech about Arasaka saving him from the town they poisoned. Fuck man, I like Takemura - great character, great actor - but jesus christ.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
fuck songbird
i wish i could've blown her away with a shotgun instead of nicely uplugging her
i forgot what V's orders were when finishing PL up and both reed and the president told V to fuck off, pretty much - but afterwards, reed admits V made the right decision.
songbird is a pathological liar, a literal cyberpsycho, and with her fucking with the blackwall, an actual danger to humanity in cp2077's lore
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>songbird is a pathological liar
Out of necessity. Used to be a smalltime cyber-criminal who fucked with corpo sites until she was blackmailed by Reed to join FIA or have herself and everyone she cared about feel the long glowing dick of the law in one way or another. Lying to anyone and everyone is the only way out for her in a profession where honesty gets you nowhere. >and with her fucking with the blackwall
The only reason she did is because Myers forced her to, and her whole reason for going to the moon is getting rid of that Blackwall shit. Myers is the kind of frigid cunt to just find another gifted runner and force him to fuck with the Blackwall for personal gain.
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I agree, Killing her after Betraying her is the best ending. She’s too dangerous, she’s a fucking nuke and I trust neither Blue Eyes nor Meyers with her.
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it would've been cool if there was a third story path which involved V and kurt teaming up to stop songbird, but that's cuz i liked kurt as a character.
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>Sure, but he's not an actual dog. He's human, and capable of critical thinking
you'd be surprised how much you can brainwash humans. Stockholm Syndrome is a thing after all
Yeah, absolutely.
It's pretty good for that price, it's probably the "game" I've enjoyed most from this year so far including armored core, though it wins that more because of quantity than quality.
Environmental storytelling is great, really really well done, just art and music in general for both the base game and the expansion.
Combat is improved over the original game but still not very satisfying because AI enemies are all still 100% just retarded mooks you kill in 3 hits. I'd rather have fewer enemies but the fights are interesting - more like when you're up against a cyberpsycho - instead of 15 enemies but there's nothing more to a fight then clicking heads.
Gigs are a step up from the base game in overall quality
NPC's in general are still retarded and freak out over stupid things like opening a locked door in their sight
In general a huge lack of reactivity to player choices and actions, it's almost as dead as a bethesda game when it comes to the consequences of decisions you've made - questlines are basically self-contained and what happens in gigs and quests rarely impacts anything meaningful outside them
I'd say it's generally an improvement but they really haven't fixed the biggest issues the game has - linear storytelling, moviegame-itis, bad AI, poorly developed game mechanics, and poor reactivity to player choices.
Clothing management has no excuse to be as bad as it is
Driving weirdly has a lot of code depth to it but yet is still so poorly done that everything feels like its skating on ice with 5000hp engines producing massive oversteer
audio and music are great but the sound design is fucking awful with 3 different songs playing at once in areas because of radios that are permanently on, and soundscape bugs that make things way quieter or louder than they should be at random
Overall the macro elements are good, but the details especially relating to actual gameplay are super underbaked
I think for the sequel they should probably drop the RPG pretense. It's really not working and they aren't giving any indication they can make it work. It's an action adventure game more than an RPG
>Environmental storytelling is great
The city is filled to the brim with screens blasting obnoxious ads 24/7 and you're telling me that somehow most of them aren't vandalized, even in the shittiest neighborhoods and back alleys? In Night City, an abject, trash-ridden shithole with corpses everywhere and gang killings in borad daylight? Fucking Pacifica, where cops go to commit suicide, has TV pylons blaring ads, and they're just fine. What an oversight.
So every time a nagger in Pacifica or Dogtown rips down a screen to pawn for drugs, or takes a potshot at it, or sprays his tag on it, the entertainment technology equivalent of Trauma Team drops in, heavily armed and ready to kill, to hook up a new ad screen? Now that's dystopian.
It does cartwheels over the base game. It goes back to the "morally grey" stuff from the Witcher while pretty much every side mission in the base game has a "good" ending. The two leads are really well written though I'm sure anons will bitch their little pussies out because flawed characters give them an aneurism. They need to be told who GOOD GUY is.
just finished this quest, pretty fucking kino way to drive the message home
and yeah, the message thing, cdpr has excellent writers. its refreshing to see how good writing and quest design affects the overall experience, everything comes to life when couple of quests like this are present
>and yeah, the message thing, cdpr has excellent writers.
that's what made me like the game even in the unfinished 1.0 state. Even the dlc is pretty great, pretty much every side quest there reinforces the theme of double guessing everyone's intention and how nothing is what it seems at face value
>In some way
The entirety of the quest only exists because of rogue AIs from beyond the Blackwall collaborating with Night Corp (which might be run by an AI) to brainwash and influence potential candidates to further their goals in the real world
Peralez being one of the more notable examples
How did Peralez even make it to run for mayor in such a corrupt shithole and didn't get zeroed the moment he showed ambition and disregard for the corpo overlords?
The puppet masters who actually run night city WANT people like him to run though, at least once in a while. The person gains popularity for their anti-corruption/progressive views, and then before they're put into office they'll slowly be transformed into a more useful tool, whose new ideals will fit their overlords plans better.
Peralez only (potentially) manages to even catch onto this shit happening because one of the brainwashing workers fucked up and got caught skulking around the apartment. + because Peralez coincidentally managed to meet up with V and found them to be trustworthy when it came to hush-hush shit like this.
wasn't there something about how after he started campaigning, he took a less anti-corpo stance, and more of pro-federalist/NUSA stance? (That's why 6th Street are backing him up so hard, they think Peralez will stop NC from being a Free City and rejoin the NUSA.)
That could mean the real puppetmasters here are trying to get NC to rejoin the NUSA, I guess to maybe kick out Arasaka?
the quest where you pay a visit to the guys that records BD's with children.
and just because i'm an asshole i killed his son right in front of him while they were still linked with each other.
They are editors who help pick children for shoots, create the scenarios that will be filmed, and run advertising and distribution to clients ensuring further market growth and expansion. They are absolutely 1000% complicit and not some unrelated sideshow to running the business.
That quest was weird
I didn't really have a take regarding the guy's weird jesus act so I was pretty much just getting paid to watch this guy fellate himself and the nail him to a cross.
Is it selfless though?
It seemed like the guy was just having an ego trip.
He became convinced while in jail that he was the second coming of christ and even went as far as filming himself getting crucified because he wanted other people to see him that way. That sounds like delusions of grandeur, narcissism, by helping him with the crucifixion you were basically helping the dude satisfy his fetish.
Because "He's Jesus" you have to forgive Jesus ...right?
He wanted control, he wanted to be able to pressure his victim's families into forgiving him.
Them forgiving him fed into his delusion of being a martyr.
> he wanted to be able to pressure his victim's families into forgiving him.
except he made no attempt to persuade or appeal to the mother of the victim when she came home and cussed him out. He accepts it immediately and leaves.
Honestly, I felt the same. I just wanted to have an option to both throw a wrench into that corpocunt's plan AND to make that fucker suffer. Something like calling him out on his bullshit and leaving him. Either he quits and gets the chair, or he doesn't and braindance is contaminated with doubt, regret and despair to the point of being unusable
You can make him question his own faith to the point that the braindance, loose most of its message.
The cunt will call you a few days alter, raving about how you ruined everything
It's more interesting to let him complete his "performance" art. It's why Johnny also wants you to play it straight, in his mind he did the same with the last gig and his suicide mission in Arasaka tower
Especially when you learn the lore about the song, how it was the last song recorded, presumably literally right before Johnny blew up saka tower, and you realize that some of the lines point to his mindset leading up to that event. Its so fucking good, honestly its kinda weird that so many people sleep on it compared to chippin in and never fade away.
Sinnerman had a few nods to the story of Jesus too. V and Johnny quoting the 2 thieves who was crucified next to Jesus, going into the diner that has exactly 12 people sitting at the table, and the corpo bitch trying to buy you out to leave him alo e like the israelites did with Judas
The one where you go to avenge the preacher's son, featuring the father/son BD duo.
The first and only time in vidya where I questioned my own morality. >Walk in to editing room, wake the father/son up >blah blah blah please don't kill us >grab the quest item and go to leave >Pause for a second and wonder if the devs do any thing for killing them >shoot the son >father gets out of his chair and grieves the loss of his son >listen to him cry for like 10 - 20 seconds >blow his brains out mid way >Minute or two after leaving it hit me how fucked up it is to kill someone, watch their relative grieve, and then kill the relative
It only kinda bothered me the first time but it was a little bit "wow, why the fuck did I do that?"
>don't kill us! >revolted by their bullshit >grabbed the BD, took a look around, find their room and see a computer >read the messages >recognize names >they were in contact with Jotaru from the wattson gig, and likely the people in the shipping container you free in the police scanner side hustle in the area we're either going to them or jotaru >Filled with fury >turn back around and kill his son with the gorilla arms. >let him cry >I smoke a cigarette and watch him, in this moment I am divine retribution for the victims >Say to myself "when you meet god you will have no tears to cry for mercy because you left them on earth." >gorilla arms, strong strike to the face >incendiary grenade the room >get into my little mule, radio's playing chipping in, its night and rainy
Let me tell you doing those gigs and side stuff before that mission all lined up perfectly. It certainly put me in a mood and its one that I wont forget. I dropped the game halfway through and should restart to do PL but I'm a little lazy.
>>they were in contact with Jotaru from the wattson gig
i fucking love just how connected even the trashiest quests are. Something as simple as an ncpd hustle still has details that enrich other quests.
I remember theres one gig where you break into a penthouse and confront a corpo scientist who did fucked up lethal product testing's on a group of Nomads, to ensure the product was quality. And she begs you to let her back up the data, so their death wasnt for nothing.
Then in the John Wick gig, if you open the trunk and talk to the hostage, he will tell you his name and that he works in quality assurance, which makes you think he is just a innocent victim. But if you did the first gig and is playing a Nomad, then you can recognize his name from the scientists messages and confront him on the product testing on innocent people.
It's the perfect storm of criteria where the outcome is absolutely miserable no matter what you choose to do. I think I ended up just blasting them both with a rocket while they were unaware.
The one where you unfold a conspiracy that an AI has been brainwashing and controlling a rich couple into becoming the perfect mayor candidate for some unknown reason and it ends with the AI cutting all contact between V and your clients for knowing too much.
There is this reaccuring location in Watson. A limb clinic/sales center used by Maelstrom to conduct initiations or just lay low and do moda. There are two gigs there as well as an NCPD mission, three encounters. I like the lore of this place and enjoy purging it in all my playthroughs.
I honestly wish the game were harder. If you actually use all the options the game gives you, it's piss easy, even on very hard. Having a fully realized build with some synergies actually feels unfair with how you're rolling over absolutely everything. The only thing posing even the remotest threat is maxtac on open ground, which will eventually overwhelm you with sheer numbers. But even that is no problem with some builds, and nothing in the game where actual quests are concerned ever rises to that level.
Feels like the game is filled with little things that are so easy to miss. Like the same mentioned Lina quest.
Blackwall deck you get when siding with Reed possibly has few interactions with cybernetic stuff (I haven't tested it yet). It already has unique lines, you can only get in some of the quests. Just imagine interaction with Delamain and that Cynosure AI? We'll see.
But all I mentioned are few dialogue lines, there are many missable quests, as you said.
>robot designed to determine and fulfil your deepest darkest desires >looks into your eyes strokes your hair and tells you everything will be okay
Nah, it's 100% cyberpunk.
they're not robots, technically.
they're humans with "behavior chips" - i think of at as they'd be posessed by clouds' AI, which is synced to the customer's desires and personalities. the game doesn't really explain what dolls really are
So you know how in the Sun/Temperance endings Alt explains how V can't return to his body for more than six months, because it has adjusted to being Johnny's body now and would reject him?
One question I really missed there and which I don't think the game ever answers is why can't we just do the same thing in reverse? Let Johnny return to the body, put V, who already is an engram at that point, onto the relic shard, and let him overwrite Johnny. Or hell, get V onto the relic or a similar shard, slap him into one of the dead Arasaka dudes, and let him drive the corpse, which was what the relic was originally supposed to do anyway. That was the first question immediately jumping to my mind at that reveal, and I couldn't find an answer.
Why can't Alt just write V over someone dead (as it was intended from start)? And let Jhonny take V's body (lmao, enjoy being a woman, looser)
Win / win for both
I'm pretty sure putting you on engram kills you.
Sure, there's another V out there now, but it's not You, just like Johnny's just an Engram.
The real Johnny's dead and buried.
That might be a good point. It's not made super clear, but from the way I understood it, the moment you hooked into Mikoshi, Alt just made you into an Engram. At least that's what she says. So I assume it's the "real" V, and not a copy or something. But the nature of Engrams, and whether or not the "real" person is still around after getting soulkiller'd is never made explicitly clear I don't think.
Everyone in the game speak of engrams as being copies of your brain.
Maybe "you" are in that engram, but it's really unclear and i doubt so.
It's not like the people who worked with the relic actually understood 100% what they were working on.
Songbird says it's a gate to the future for AIs.
>The relic brings your brain back online
Not quite. It's not like you just conked out and were defibbed back to life, a bullet went through your head. The relic notices you're dead and activates, preserving what's left of the brain and readying it for the transfer. The relic is doing the neural heavy lifting from then on, that's why it can't be removed. V would be a braindead vegetable at best without it.
my favorite ending so far is the one where you sit and cry on Misty's roof only for Johnny to be like "or... we say fuck it and storm Arasaka alone. because if we're dying anyway, might as well go down swinging right?" then go in, body the waves of guards, body Smasher, hook up to Mikoshi, have one last heart to heart with Johnny as his engram crosses the Blackwall with alt, then return to your body as a living legend and take on the space casino heist. unfiltered kino imho. i wound up sending Song to the moon despite her deception, which sadly meant blasting Reed. probably suboptimal but fuck it, it's roleplay. worth going back and siding with Reed for the surgery option?
after seeing PL ending, this one is now my ideal ending for V. It keeps your promise to Johnny that you'll let nothing change who you are and after PL and the shit he was doing to the Peralezes, Blue Eyes really is your best chance at getting fixed
Are they? I tried all weapon times, and melee and pistols felt like the strongest by far, followed by thrown weapons. Shotguns were alright, but at least on very hard their bodyshot focus sucks shit, minus Headsman. ARs and SMGs felt the weakest to me.
What about that quest with River where you hunt for his brother(?) only to discover the serial killer farm guy who would kidnap boys and hook them to feeding troughs and chrome so as to capture their nightmares(?) or something. Ok tbqh I forgot exactly what that guy was doing but that shit felt straight out of Twin Peaks or X-Files, one of the darker good episodes.
Genuinely, what are you struggling with? I've seen the "driving on ice" comments. I've seen clips where people will just swerve into things for no discernible reason. Is it because it doesn't have hyper-aggressive traction control like GTAV? Because even then cars won't oversteer that much unless you make them.
People claim to not like the driving model in this game because they believe it to be slippery and hard to control. It is not, therefore it can only be a skill issue.
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it is slippery and "hard to control"
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t. cuphead journo
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i like the driving and it is more slippery compared to its peers
why you equate that with skill instead of personal preference is strange, especially for something not very challenging in the first place
raise your e-peen maybe?
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a random shitmobile slapped together in TOTK has more intuitive controls than dev crafted vehicles in cyberpunk
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Again, I'm not saying this conclusion isn't real. I'm saying I don't know how you could possibly have come to it.
>How much does it actually add?
almost nothing to the base game, but dogtown is a better district than the rest of the game and the quest is better than the base game
and give songbird back to the NUSA. The cunt deserves what they'll do to her
>2077 got good DLC >RE4R got good DLC >Devil Engine finally released it's good DLC that was finished years ago but wasn't published due to legal issues
i can't choose which game to revisit. when I started up a new 2077 run the early levels felt so weak and shitty I stopped playing.
The trick is to not try for a melee or netrunner build in the early parts of the game. Just use guns and shoot shit. Melee is awful until you can get body or reflexes to 15
The father/son XBD duo. Shooting the son in the face and having the father wail and scream for his son before blowing his brains out too was one of the most satisfying ends to a quest I've had the pleasure of experiencing recently. Always a nice treat when they're genuinely irredeemable monsters instead of some grey area bullshit.
Same for this guy, to a lesser extent. Try as he might to weasel his way out, it still ends with a Grad round through his mouth. Death to all scavs and scav enablers.
Nah, not this time, those two were directly responsible for certain extremely gruesome XBDs being made, the logs make it explicitly clear that the pair are utter degenerates.
An email convo in the building states that the kid is good-hearted but sheltered as hell and unaware of the ramifications of what he's doing. It's also clear that he adores his father, who is possibly his only friend and caregiver. The father is in fact an irredeemable sociopath, but he isn't lying when he says their deaths won't slow the XBD trade one bit. >kill neither of them and walk: you are now theoretically complicit in their production >kill the father: a genuinely evil man is put to justice and the kid is free but doomed to a life of sorrow, fear and confusion >kill the son: the father is made to suffer the pain he inflicted but an "innocent" had to die to do it >kill them both: achieve a hollow moral victory that solves nothing (or mercy kill the kid I guess)
I suppose it hinges on whether you judge morality via action or intent. I killed them both.
He's a stunted manchild. He only got involved because his father groomed him into it. The email is between the father and a former dealer and goes something to the effect of >I knew you were low but I can't believe you dragged the boy into it, he's a good kid >heh heh whatchu gonna do about it moralfag that retard loves me lol bye
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>he's a good kid >because some smut xbd dealer said it
The kid chose to stay with his father's porn making with kids in it, he's amoral.
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Again I agree with you mostly, I detonated them after all. Just saying it's hardly clear-cut.
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Its like calling the slow nephew from Making a Murdere, a innocent kid. Despite helping in the rape and murder of a woman
The serial killer cow farm guy quest (called The Hunt) actually gave me feelings of disgust. Pretty rare to be feeling anything in a vidya. that quest will stick with me
prob the cyberpsycho questline even though it was just ripping off rambo.
the game had really forgettable narrative elements compared to witcher 3 which is a shame. v always felt like he was never established, his motives are unclear and he is just being dragged along by chungus man. the side quests were super forgettable, where were the cool quests like the island adventure, ghost whale cave, devil in a well or the plague tower like quests from W3...?
>Cyberpunk as genre is inspired by Do Androids Dream >Phillip K Dick was heavily inspired by gnostic writings >CP2077 has no quests relating to any of it >But here's a quest where a schizo who wants to reenact the crucifixion
Fucking no good pollacks
I've been doing hacking and blunt weapons for my most recent playthrough. The new sprint move is ace. Disabling people with hacks then shoulder-charging the fuck out of them is very satisfying.
The date with River was just something I've never experienced in a game before. Sure other missions have been unique or deal with philosophy but cooking supper together, playing with his niece and nephew, confessing to each other, it was just so caring.
In the second movie he got back with MJ and had a child and even as a depressed slob he still had little problem dealing with another universe's rogue's gallery.
Walk around until you find your way back up
The game doesnt tell you anything in that one instance
I remember on my first playthrough I searched for a way for a bit and then just moved on thinking id somehow loop around and then the quest just ends
During my first playthrough Takemura was glitching out during that whole cutscene he was knocked unconscious, so I assumed him T-posing made me miss an animation of him getting shot or something.
Didn't learn until I beat the game that he was just knocked out.
When Johnny tells you to leave and V is like "I cant just leave Goro", there is a hole in the wall in the first room(There might be a hallway first, cant remember the whole layout). The hole is marked with a neon blue cross, and you fight your way up to the apartment again to save him. You split up after the quest and he only show up again if you do the Arasaka ending, where he even gets a final scene in the epilogue. If you chose any other ending, he will call you to tell you he is going to commit honourable suicide and that he blames you for it. If you chose the Tower ending for the DLC then he calls to tell you that since you disappeared him and Hanako tried to do the Arasaka ending without you and failed, leading to her death and him being a homeless wanted man, and he blames you for that.
All in all, its better to let him die if you dont plan on doing the Arasaka ending.
I am somewhat interested in this game now that it has apparently been fixed.
Is it an open world RPG like Bethesda, or is it a GTA clone? Or is it DXHR but bigger?
If its a GTA clone I am not going to bother.
It leans more into DXHR than GTA. The GTA elements are there but they aren't a primary focus. It's a series of elaborate rollercoaster rides as far the quests go. And it's quite good at that.
its DXHR on steroids
its half as vertical but 5 times more horizontal. It also hides the fact that 95% of buildings are decorations really well as game takes you around many small or large interiors, so you get to see different eateries and arcades and dives and high end hotels, clubs etc at least 2-3 times so when you see a sign, or when someone only mentions a place, you get to understand what they are talking about
I read somewhere that they majorly rewrote the main plot pretty far into development, to focus on Keanu Reeves. Its also why the main quest feels so short and abrupt.
yeah that's definitely not true at all
they had most of Johnny's dialogue written before Reeves was cast, which meant the story was always gonna be about how V gets him stuck in V's brain
It's become something that passes for a good game, which helps. Also for a story heavy game, it took the expansion to finally get some good story shit that's worth discussing and arguing about.
>Fucking her with the blackmail being one
The bitch is backed by the sports industry, which even in our world is corrupt and unethical on par with major corpos. One lone dude blackmailing her with something the industry has already bought into didn't really strike me as a realistic proposition. Personally, I just made her think I agreed to her deal, then tossed a hatchet in her eye, that solved the problem.
whenever you want after you unlock it, it's level scaled anyway (sigh) and in-universe it'd just be you looking for another possible lead on how to get the chip out of your head.
if you wanna roleplay i'd say finish up the evelyn subplot, although i don't recall if you still have things to do after unlocking the dlc
>although i don't recall if you still have things to do after unlocking the dlc
PL unlocks after doing the VDB shit and meeting Alt, which I think is about halfway-ish through the main story, depending on which path you take.
>(sigh)
why sigh? the game is already easy as fuck and level scaling at least makes it so you don't have to do certain things early to avoid completely steamrolling it later, like the entirety of watson and japantown
it's just a concept i hate in rpgs, but i have to say 77's version is one of the better ones, mostly cuz you have a lot of horizontal progression that change and evolve your options
What's more spooky is it's based in reality
You did read all those shards about neuroplasticity and using sounds to rewire the brain right? That's what those binaural sissy vids were and that trend was legitimately started by glowies
Sure, played through entire game on 1060 on release and it was running smooth. You'll have to crank some details down, obviously, might need to downscale, though 1080 is way better than 1060, so I wonder if you'll even have to go into any extremes.
1080ti is still a perfectly competent low-mid card, even in 2023. It has no modern nvidia gimmicks, and admittedly you could want some DLSS for whenever game goes below 60fps, but all in all, 1080ti raw power sits above 3060 afaik
Easily. I played this game on release on a 90k with a 1080 and it was on high for the entire game. Like the other anons said just don’t be greedy with the lighting and density
Sooo are is Mr blue eyes just a reskin of Gman? >Wake up… wake up…Mr.V >Its…time to… choose.. Mr. V >That’s why I’m here, Mr. V... I have recommended your services to my employers…and they have authorized me to offer you a job. They agree with me…that you have limitless potential. >Its time to choose…Mr V
It is not that deep, it is heavily implied they are a proxy for the rogue AIs. They are also at the airport because Songbird is a cocoon for one (or some) of them and they have some influence on the moon/orbit.
Hoping cp2 will be a horrorish AI rampant game whenever we get stuck behind the black wall somehow. Survival punk2 sounds exciting and can actually be an rpg
I liked many quests, including the one you posted. One of my favorites was Somewhat Damaged (Militech secret underground lab from the Reed's path). I like Survivor Terror, rogue AIs, and games like Alien Isolation. It was easy but very immersive. It was refreshing to be helpless for once in this game, and I played at very hard difficulty.
It also gave much more lore about Songbird and the Blackwall than the Songbird path and both endings were more emotional and fitted more with the themes of the game.
In one of the computers the AI even implied that our world is fake...
cod was always silly af but it had its own charm, since it fell to female writers it's worse than the fanfic level written by 10 y/o edge kids, Why are women so bad at writing? The only Western game released recently that I felt was a good story is cyberpunk 2077, which was written by male writers
I feel like I'm fundamentally misunderstanding this stupid final Phantom Liberty quest on Reed's route with the plot armor deathbot. It just walks up on me when I'm in a dead end hallway and script-kills me from around the corner.
As an aside, this is a terrible deviation from their game formula and has me rapidly losing interest in finishing the DLC.
Yeah it's really spectacular how it manages to fall flat on its face in the final moment here. Perhaps the first game where I quit out of the final mission and said "maybe I'll finish this later."
destroying the VDB
>Giga cybernigga boss fight
>Super robot and his minions boss fight
>boss fight with a literal computer server
They gave the good stuff to the VDB
That was so fucking good man. I slaughter those filthy coons every playthrough without fail.
I actually found a hidden note while fucking around in Pacifica before ever starting that quest, which made it far more satisfying. In it, some goon tells Placide that the Scavs want to sell some netrunning gear, and Placide tells him to agree to the trade, but don't pay them, just shoot them all. Scavs deserve it, but when I met Placide during the main quest, I remembered that he's a cunt who isn't above getting his end out of a deal and then killing his business partners. Made it very easy for me to sell all of them out to Gambit when I met him in the mall, didn't even mind being used as a trojan horse to cook their circuitry.
when you meet brigitte she calls placide a "basic animal" in creole - or something along those lines. you have to translate that shit yourself though, the game wont do it for you. placide is a big dumb nig by his own people's standards, essentially
Yeah, she does.
I don't speak creole, but that line was close enough to actual french that i understood it fully.
Being close to VDBs was weird.
I'd natively understand about half a sentence, then it's just monkey speak.
>I'd natively understand about half a sentence, then it's just monkey speak.
this is a thing with all bpeepo
>first VDB quest
>they immediately start roasting my hardware
and so my Voodoo nagger genocide started
i am actively hostile to these haitian fucks. i hate haitians so fucking much it's unreal. they are one of the few groups of people on earth who universally deserve scorn. props to Pondsmith for accurately capturing just how incompetent and shifty the fucking haitians are.
i like to run them over with de kamyonet
the portrayal of the VDB was really weird
they make you sit through a 10 minute walking cutscene that's intended to show how well-liked and what a pillar of his community Placide is
but he's an absolute cunt to you and is just begging to be killed
and this is all from a writer (Pondsmith) who claims that the VDB are his favorite faction. favorite to hate, i guess? because the VDB are gross and even if they were nice to V i'd hate them, they are ugly and incompetent. "oh but they're SUPER good netrunners" bullshit just going by in-game feats they are jobbers at best. they get fried every time they try something more difficult than low level thug shit.
>and this is all from a writer (Pondsmith) who claims that the VDB are his favorite faction. favorite to hate, i guess?
i think they're ideologically interesting because in 2077's world there isn't much you can do to fix the colossal problems other than just burn the entire place down. That might be what Pondsmith likes, they come to a logical conclusion that's insane and behave as such.
>there isn't much you can do to fix the colossal problems other than just burn the entire place down.
That won't fix anything though, you're just wiping mankind and replacing them for a new monster.
A lot of things pondsmith says make 0 sense and it's clear he just enjoy his setting being something instead of the garbage forgotten shit it was before.
I love how the game allows you not only to actively antagonize them but completely turn on them killing them all. Without ever punishing you for daring to go against modern holy cows
>props to Pondsmith for accurately capturing just how incompetent and shifty the fucking haitians are
aren't 2077 voodoo boys basically cdpr oc donut steel?
pretty much, iirc in 2020 they were just voodoo larpers as opposed to crazy magical Black netrunners
This but Pondsmith gave the ok and helped with this new version of the VDB
Fuck those guys. I literally went above and beyond - forgave that they tried to kill me and they still were fucking cunts who screwed you over. Most accurate depiction of black people in media in a long time.
When you get out of cyberspace and you see all those backstabbing naggers deepfried in their netrunning chairs was easily the most satisfying thing I experienced in my playthrough.
>he sided with the NetWatch pig
holy cringe
LMAO IMAGINE TRUSTING LITERAL NAPPY HEADED JUJU naggerS
>not siding with VDBs long enough to just blow them away yourself after the Deepdive is over
OHNONONO, LOOK AT THIS DUDE
Fucking loved that guy
Wish i coulda played a corpo like him
NTA but after learning about the AIs and the blackwall it's certainly tempting to. VDB are trying to fight on the side of AIs in the upcoming AI vs human war they think is coming.
Still more of a "not my problem" situation but VDB are definitely not the good guys.
It's not just that, the VDB don't understand that AIs don't give a shit about them, yet they keep fiddling with the blackwall.
Literally a bunch of retard risking Human Annihilation.
I did, and I've done it every single time I've played 2077. I don't feel bad about it and they all deserve to die. What they're trying to do will all but guarantee the end of the world. They're a doomsday cult.
not him but why would you side with netwatch when you can let the corpos get synapsed and also enjoy having the nogs die by your own hand?
It is a major highlight, maybe cybergoat
phantom liberty ending was dare I say KINO
the mind control one was also interesting, hopefully they build on those glowie niggas in future
They will. Mr Blue Eyes is on the balcony when you meet Peralez. He's also at the spaceport and hooks songbird up with the trip to space. And gives V the casino mission in the reaper ending. Arasaka is small fish compared to Mr Blue Eyes. He works for Bogdanoffs.
Its the same blue eyed guy who is behind the mind control and the spaceship/treatment for Songbird
The Lina Melina quest line was quite entertaining
If you had completed Sinnerman prior to doing that gig, you can get a text from Rachel asking about this up and coming BD star trying to pitch her show. You can say "yeah I know them, they got talent" and that's enough for them to get the show picked up which I thought was nice
Oh and this snazzy bike
I always went with choices that Johnny suggests to me and I regret it because you end up missing out on alot
Call me a fag but I'd rather make the 'right' choice morally than the one with the better rewards. I was happier knowing the guy was cured than having yet another bike when I only use Jackie's one anyway.
Funnily enough, I think Tool gets a better life living as Toolina as it's implied by Shank he'll eventually snap back to his senses to an extent and recognize the "Toolina" personality as an act. A great act mind you but it'll take time for his brain to unfuck itself
However I do think the best morally correct choice is having him Eminem snap back to reality by hearing his letter read aloud by Lina.
Living as a "lost sister" or coming back to reality are really the only good options. Having him think he's an FIA clone is probably the worst lmao
the rewards are only good if youre a completionist. tons of better shit in the dlc
Visiting Judy's home town with her while she uses technology to help her remember things that she took for granted at the time.
Sinnerman is second for showing how capitalism will ensure the same technology will be used most often for evil instead of good because since being good is hard, the majority is evil and advertising to evil is more profitable.
Kerrys attempts to sabotage us cracks and his all arc in general. Fun thing is if you fumble throwing your grenade Kerry just stands there and facetanks it like a boss
>Kerry instantly recognizing Johnny by his guitar playing
>the Totenzas club
>actually playing a concert
>kerry implying he was about to off himself in the shower
>trashing the yacht in pure rockerboy fashion
such a kino questline
How do you get to a yacht with Kerry?
finish his questline, after dealing with us cracks, he invites you to the marina
Fuck, his is always the last questline I do and after Us Cracks I usually go meet Hanako. Last playthrough I even skipped two days just to make sure I wasn't missing any content before entering Embers and still didn't get an invite from Kerry.
Does that also happen if you get Kerry to become friendly with Us Cracks?
you should be friendly with us cracks so you can do blue moon's stalker quest, which made a lot of people simp for her
>quest about a singer wanting you to deal with a creepy simp
>makes people simp for her
Like clockwork
It takes a while for Kerry to call back but he eventually does, just keep skipping days
Lmao, easily one of the best quest snd you missed it.
Last mission is protecting bluemoon, then you can say is over
>stranger breaks into his house and plays an extremely well known song that consists mostly of power chords
>kerry immediately believes it's his dead pal from 50 years ago
I know it's probably just the writers misunderstanding musicianship, but my headcanon is he was so desperate that he just went along with V's story without truly believing it.
the Peralez questline. I genuinely did not see it coming and it did a great job at sucking me in in the existential dread it presented. It's a masterpiece of interactive horror and i guess it works so well because you don't see it coming.
I knew this shit worked hard when i was walking to do another quest and overheard the name peralez on the tv and immediately dropped whatever i was doing to listen
he probably recognized stuff like how V was moving, not just the music playing. How he holds the guitar, sits and the little movements can go a long way, especially couple with what you mentioned
I think Rogue mentions that V has Johnny's smirk, whenever he is in control.
she does, and the stupid fucking "i don't smoke" thing with rogue. dumb game
That one and the one with the serial killer that groomed kids on discord.
The one where there was a game dev company that lied about what features would be in the game for 10 years only to release a buggy shitty GTA clone that is somehow worse than Watch Dogs
we dont care anymore
You never did, thats why things are the way they are. You people will take the abuse and happily lap up shit with a smile on you face.
umm fuck you>??? youre just a fucking hater?? like shut the fuck up????????
>GTA clone
The game is as much GTA clone as The Witcher is an RDR clone.
>shitty GTA clone
yeah except with way better writing and gameplay
>The one where there was a game dev company that lied about what features would be in the game for 10 years
ok true
>shitty GTA clone that is somehow worse than Watch Dogs
have a nice day
t. someone who never played the game and just bases his opinion off shitposts he reads on Ganker
i will place a bet that GTA6 will have enough delays built in to launch alongside another cyberpunk game and get Starfielded
It's hilarious how much they lied. They couldn't even get the driving and traffic to work yet they are saying your gonna be able to customize and mod your cars. Lmao.
This game might have the worst driving I've ever seen. It's honestly impressive. Even after modding the game for "better handling", it's still ass.
that sounds like a skill issue to be honest
Nah, it's shit mate. Every car spins out at the slightest provocation like they're driving on ice and all the weight is concentrated in the tailpipe.
>Every car spins out at the slightest provocation like they're driving on ice and all the weight is concentrated in the tailpipe.
I'm gonna be blunt with you here; that's basically how all RWD, High Horsepower Muscle cards handle IRL
>Nah, it's shit mate. Every car spins out at the slightest provocation like they're driving on ice and all the weight is concentrated in the tailpipe.
I agree that cars drive like shit.
Bikes work fine
i know you're lying because V's starter car is practically impossible to spin out and a lot of the high-end cars are obscenely responsive, the herrera outlaw handles really well
I think all of the Nomad Cars are 4WD, which means they handle very well as well.
some cars are really shit on MKB but remember, the vast majority of this board was filtered by GTAIV's driving. they suck at it
I play a lot of racing games. It literally is a skill issue. So much so that I can't actually figure out what the people who say this must be doing wrong. I've heard so many conflicting reports about what's wrong with it, the most confusing one being "the cars are impossible to control but the bikes are easy" because it's the total opposite. The bikes' turning circle is wide as hell and they lose control at the slightest touch under heavy braking. I feel like I've popped into bizzaro world whenever this topic comes up.
the devs seemed to try and make driving actually pretty realistic, at least compared to stuff like GTAV, Watch Dogs etc.
Which admittedly is kind of an odd choice, for the video game where you can became a Digital Wizard that explodes peoples minds with the power of the Internet but whatever.
nah some cars are ok but a good amount of them become incontrollable ice skating piece of metal as soon as you go fast a little bit.
are those real wheel drive muscle cars with a lot of horsepower?
because uh, that's just sort of how real wheel drive muscle cars with lots of horsepower handle lol
nobody ever bought a Challenger to take a corner man
>because uh,
i dunno i find the driving really fun, doing 360s with kusanagi when turning corners never gets old for me
I like how their answer as to why there wasnt fuctioning car chases with the police. Was that car chases was a unrealistic demand and btw nobody complained that there wasnt car chases in Elden Ring. So clearly people are biased against CP77
>brings up ER out of nowhere
why?
It was the big hot open world rpg of the time. When the dev made the statement.
Here found the article.
https://www.gamebyte.com/elden-ring-wont-have-police-chases-says-cyberpunk-2077-developer/
I like the suicide mission ending. Finally, a game that acknowledges you're OP.
Change your tampon
Now type that again without crying and pissing your pants.
>shitty GTA clone
this is what people who either didn't play the game or are so retarded they don't understand what they're interacting with say
It would have been better as a gta clone
Nailing the Hispanic to the cross and hearing him scream in pain
Dream On, no contest.
Why we can't have nice things? Is it that hard to let the player change the car configuration? There are dozens of auto shops, so let us pay to swap the colors.
Sorry had to be cut so they could add more Celebs, trannies and mumble rappers into the game
sexiest Riptide
i really liked that in GTA San Andreas there were special pay n' spray shops that let you custom your cars.
they didn't let you do that in GTA4 and that sucked.
I'd rather have proper arm crafting. I'd like to buff skippy to oblivion
get CET+ car customiser, lets you swap the skin of your personal vehicle with every NPC car in the game
CDPR did such a good job. It's crazy how low effort other games feel after playing thru cp77.
Is Phantom Liberty worth the 30 bones?
Yeah I think so. The story is good, Dogtown looks great as a run down cyberpunk setting, sidequests and gigs are more interesting and have more going on in them, and the OST is way better than the main games.
10000%. the ending i got was absolutely amazing. better than the main game ending. also dogtown and cool locations and story. its an incredible expansion.
Overall performance is shit and it's still pretty buggy, but in general it felt like a big step up from the base game. Story is legitimately great tier imo and even the side jobs/gigs were engaging.
No and it's free on gog
Only done the intro and a little bit of dogtown so far. And for now, fuck no. I have hated every second of it. It's like they learned all the wrong lessons and doubled down on the exact worst parts of the original game.
>they learned all the wrong lessons and doubled down on the exact worst parts of the original game.
In what way?
Endless talking about nothing.
The intro is like a full on 2010 call of duty campaign. Complete with waiting around for NPCs slowly walking over to open doors for you.
Want to to anything other than the 1 thing the game wants in the 1 specific way you are intended to do it? flatlined, try again.
>Want to to anything other than the 1 thing the game wants in the 1 specific way you are intended to do it? flatlined, try again.
skill issue
I felt the story didn't really pick up until after you rescued Myers 2bh. Overall I felt it gave the player a decent amount of choice in how to handle things, although there were a couple occasions in which player choice was clearly sacrificed in order for things to play out like the writers wanted. The face off with Reed at the end of Songbird's route, you're telling me there's literally no way to deal with him non-lethally or do anything other than pull out this random revolver and flatline him?
They made it pretty clear that Reed is extremely loyal to the NUSA and stubborn to an autistic degree. He will continue to serve even after they sold him out to Arasaka. He is the ultimate cuck
This. NUSA has fucked him and everything he cares about over and over again and he is still delusional. He thinks the NUSA is good for the long run, refusing to acknowledge the constant shit they pull. Either that or he just hopes things get better (they won't). If he doesn't die by your hands he'll die from some other suicide mission the NUSA sends him on, on his hill of cope.
Or as Johnny says. He will hang himself
Knowing the fact that Reed was screwed by NUSA several times, he probably might have gone insane at some point
The thing is, that he doesn't seems to be a total dirtbag jerk character, like the rest of in PL, it's the contrary, you can see he cares about Bird
It feels like he is just that much autistic/retarded, to the point he genuinely thinks that returning Bird to her torturers will be better for her
Hes a good dog with a bad master. As one Anon put it, back when the dlc first came out
Sure, but he's not an actual dog. He's human, and capable of critical thinking. For how much he is about choice, consequences, and facing just punishment for crimes committed, he never turns that philosophy against the agency and government that have committed all these crimes against him. And that's why, to continue with the dog analogy, putting him down is doing him a favor. As Johnny says, for him that's as good as it gets.
That's also why I chose the Songbird, despite seeing her scam with the cure coming from a mile away. Out of the three agents, she's easily the least buckbroken, and the only one willing to actually follow through on her play for freedom. Alex is on the fence, but at the end of the day she still hopes for official retirement with FIA support, so while she's pissed and had much of her life ruined by them, much like Reed, she can't just let go. Songbird might be manipulative, but at least she's got the balls to do what needs to be done to get out of her abusive situation. Considering how V's story is all about agency and identity, freeing her seemed the most fitting route.
I dont disagree. The best endings are sending her to space or mercykilling her and then spitting the president in the face
Man, i really really wanted to blow myers head in the airport. Ill deal with the consecuences, fine, just let me fucking shoot
I remember the wiki used to say her status was determinant. But i dont think theres anyway to kill her
If you take too long to save Myers at the beginning she dies, Songbird's pissed, and the DLC story immediately ends.
Ahh. Makes sense but is a bit dissapointing
I think killing the president of the NUSA might cause waves that go beyond the scope of the game, so they just didn't let you do it. Hard to justify V just casually carrying on with the rest of the game after that.
Myers said it herself. She was never there and nothing happened. I assume that the attack on the spaceport is as black ops and falseflagged as possible. So if noone sees you kill her. Then who's to know?
>Then who's to know?
Reed, Alex, presumably every other glowie who knows about Myers being there and not coming back. Yeah, they do falseflag the spaceport assault, but there's still people who are involved and know what's going down. Who's to say they can't make up shit about how and where the president died, and still finger V for it? A head of state getting shot is tough to cover up.
And i just got undocumented and untracable tech installed that allows me to fake my entire body and fake my identity. Good luck finding me
During Songbird's ending V suggests using the face tech to infiltrate the spaceport, Songbird tells you then outright that FIA has their tech flagged and will know when it's being used and by whom. You could make a case that there might be a ripper out there talented enough to file off all the serial numbers, but it's still top secret tech, and reverse engineering it sufficiently likely takes a lot of time. And the one ripper we know of who's intimately familiar with it is unlikely to lend a hand.
>That's also why I chose the Songbird
Besides, knowing V's outcome in any of endings, knowing that V is doomed no matter what, choosing to help Songbird will save at least someone's life. At least someone will be free from all the grim things happening in PL and NC in general.
But... siding with Idris gives an ability to cast satanic magic, so... Sorry, nothing personnel. Omw to listen Cyberdemon remarks on the plot/endings
>Besides, knowing V's outcome in any of endings
Technically, I would argue that you have an okay chance at having your freedom if you accept to "sell your soul" to Arasaka while having Takemura alive, the guy seem pretty dedicated to what he value and would probably stop you from being fucked.
My headcanon is that if you save Songbird and chose to sign up the contract with Arasaka, she will find out about enrgam shard with your personality and will do everything in her strengths to save you, like you did everything to save her. She will get an engram and will find a "willing" victim (with functional chrome too) to write your personality over.
Or maybe even tried to get you from Cyberspace if you give your body to Jhonny.
GG, everyone is alive, RIP Reed.
>Soldier
>Critical thinking
Pick one and only one.
Fair, but he's still a glowie who managed to go undercover on his own for seven years, and who comes up with detailed plans for involved ops, so he can't be a complete retard. There's something going on between his ears, and his critical thinking works just fine whenever it's pointed at someone else or even himself. He's just got a massive blind spot for the FIA and NUSA, which is the tragic part because they're directly responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to him or anyone else in Phantom Liberty, including the "villain" Hansen.
He's as big as a corpo-slave as Goro is, if not more so. His whole life has been working for the NUSA, to the point where doing anything else is something he can't fathom.
This
Imagine trusting a literal glownagger that always finds his way back into the fold like the beaten dog he is
Couldn't be me ( or my V)
>He's as big as a corpo-slave as Goro is
Goro calling me during most of the endings to insult me and imply his suicide actually hurt a little. He's a corpo-slave, but he filled the important role of humanizing the people that make up a corpo, and you got to know him enough to understand and maybe even like him, despite his choice in master.
Goro is interesting, because V (and by extension, the player) can get juuuust close enough to see under those tired, beaten eyes, there is a genuinely honourable and caring man. The problem is, he has already pledged that honour to someone you can accurately call "Japanese Cyber-Hitler", and there's no going back from that really.
One thing that bothers me is that Arasaka isn't nearly as evil as it could be.
It's certainly not as evil as the FAGMAN IRL. It's just Imperial, Japan, Inc.
This makes the Arasaka route a lot more attractive and feel a lot less like a Faustian bargain that the writers might have intended it.
Corpos are corpos, simple as.
not really
what does Arasaka do? sell arms? oh my golly Gee that's horrible
Did you actually play the game? I have a hard time believing you did
they used soulkiller on people who attacked them first?
once again, boo hoo
the aren't shown to be nearly as power hungry and insidious as Google, for example
>they used soulkiller on people who attacked them first?
They peddled soulkiller as advanced cryogenic stasis for the rich and influential as a smokescreen to steal their psyches and consolidate power. And that's just their latest scheme. You learn more during the corpo lifepath, which has you starting out as one of their personal glowie squad dealing with espionage and assassination.
Your pals with a guh who destabalise governments for Arasaka. In the corpo path
>the aren't shown to be nearly as power hungry and insidious as Google, for example
are you being intentionally retarded or are you just that fucking stupid? pretty much every megacorp in lore has done much more henious shit than google, this is on the wiki as well in the numerous little text things you see while doing shit in open world
holy simp
>holy simp
I'm just saying that this shit doesn't exist in a vacuum. Songbird plays everyone, and lies to everyone, including V. But you're also in a plot about secret agents, traitors, and corrupt government officials at the highest level constantly backstabbing each other and pulling off clandestine operations in order to achieve some personal goal. Being a pathological liar comes with the territory, and taking it as a personal slight and not a matter of course is pretty fucking shortsighted.
dude songbird's ability to leak the blackwall into the "realnet" or whatever they call it is dangerous. songbird is near smasher tier if you look at her body. in the last act of PL if you choose to betray her, she's hardly a human intelligence, more like a wierd blackwall pupett
meyers is stupid for trying to re-capture her, bitch needs to go down for the good of everyone
>songbird is near smasher tier
song is stronger seeing as how smasher is a pile of spare parts now. inb4 arasaka
>hehe we downloaded smasher's brain to a Metal Gear Ray :^)
how could she be stronger in the grave?
well if they are both dead they have to fight in hell
Yeah she's dangerous, and killing her is justified in that respect. But she's just a symptom, not the real problem. Fast forward 5-10 years, and I'm sure Myers or the next president has successfully groomed the next blackwall penetrator borg.
Also, in a grander sense, giving Mr. B the chance to cure her might be interesting when it comes to dealing with shit beyond the blackwall in the future.
The cherry on top was her making diversion to flee by killing too much of people, yeah fuck it, shes as bad as Myers and the rest
They didnt just use it only criminals. They used it on anyone they wanted to own and could get away with.
Theres also the whole releasing poison into the groundwater and sponsoring the Yakuza
still nowhere near as evil as Google
also, i'm not sure it's ever specifically named which corp poison the water in Santo Domingo
Nightcorp would be the most obvious one
>also, i'm not sure it's ever specifically named which corp poison the water in Santo Domingo
Pretty sure Muamar says it's Arasaka. Which is why you steal the truck from them.
oh, God, that mission
>playing first time
>hack cams
>go out of my way to disable every guard without raising an alarm
>even shoot out the tyres of every nearby car so Arasaka can't give pursuit
>soon as you get in the truck, 2 fully alert guards spawn behind you
>HUGE MORAL QUANDARY TIME: WILL YOU LET THE GOOD COP DIE TO SAVE THE KIDS?
>keep the truck undamaged by hacking every enemy vehicle before they get close
>WHAT THE FUCK V THE GEAR IS RUINED!
this is the kind of shit why i hate CP despite having spent so much time with it
Pretty much same here. Hacked everything and everyone before they could even fire a shot, somehow the gear is ruined. Guess the truck got spooked and shit itself or something. Kinda wish we'd gotten over games just lying to you about how you failed in cutscenes or railroad missions like this one, but somehow even after decades of making fun of this exact thing, devs are still doing it.
and CP is filled to the brim with moments like that
in Sinnerman, the husband who hires you is scripted to immediately die if you aggro or silently take out the policeman that shoots him
someone went out of his way to make sure the guy always dies instead of recording a 2 second additional line that says
>well done, V, my revenge is complete
they even disable saving to deter you from trying to keep him alive. why? are the writers that desperate to make sure i pick the alternate route?
>in Sinnerman, the husband who hires you is scripted to immediately die if you aggro or silently take out the policeman that shoots him
this quest fucked me up for like an hour before i realized it was on-rails. i kept pulling in and trying to pivot around the weird forced slowdown of your car, hacking or sniping the cop from insane distances, and just bricking it. you can absolutely get into a situation where the guy who hired you is stuck there aiming at nothing, shouting things like "get down!" or whatever.
did you save the guy
the policeman? yes
well there you go. if you don't save him then the equipment doesn't get damaged and everyone else is happy.
no kidding, that anon is complaining that the gear being lost is tied to the cop surviving rather than any actual damage the truck receives while rescuing him or escaping after
what the fuck mission are you talking about
I guess this game was really forgettable because I played it 3 times...
Its a hidden quest from the DLC. You need to steal an ambulance, in order to get it you either need to steal 10 cars for El'Capitan or get lucky with the random chance after staling cars
oh it's a dlc mission
haven't picked that up yet
In the opening scenes of the corpo lifepath they outright murder half of the UN bureaucrats involved with some lunar something or other in order to cover arasaka's ass on some fuckup and maintain lunar access rights.
Not to cover it up. But to buy themselves 3 weeks time to come up with a cover up
you're arguing with a schizophrenic retard who probably hasn't played the game, anon
again, big whoop
that's just corpo on corpo warfare
they're not trying to dictate everyone's way of thinking
Just let him die during the safehouse raid.
i need him alive so i can laugh at his place in life
i generally like this ending but i think it tries to hard to make you feel bad. V has a shitton of money and it makes zero sense that ypu'd not pay off rent in advance or just outright buy the place. it conveniently ignores that you have other properties so that they can put you at rock bottom. i also think maintaining a coma patient's shaved head for 2 years is just fucking cruel and why did they take V's eyebrows. Panam is a cunt too
it's the future, so there probably isn't even a "buy the apartment" kinda like how you can't buy movies on netflix, only rent them.
for the rest i thought the various characters made sense. They know you're on death's door and you tell them "two more weeks" then disappear for years.
judy has always made it clear she was gonna leave night city and move on, kerry is very willing to help you as soon as he can and panam... i think she may have committed suicide. I found it very suHispanicious how they keep telling you "please don't go looking for her"
it does make sense but even the 2 weeks thing shows a lack of forethought on V's part. you'd think V would learn after countless betrayals and scheming government officials and corpos that maybe things won't go as people say they will. i'm just pissed because corpo V especially should be smarter than that and have some sort of contingency plan where you get your affairs with your friends and loved ones in case of a prolonged absence or potential death
Panam seemed to be the one most upset with V disappearing actually, it's just she handled it in the usual Panam, getting angry and yelling. She had to leave regardless.
panam is a womanchild. needy little slattern who throws a hissy fit when she doesn't get her way and whose only redeeming feature is a fat ass
his life started in the trash heap
Yes, but it was Trash Heap, Japan.
I wish you had an option to just turn your back on your old life and take Reed's offer for a job at Langley in this ending. Especially if you delivered Songbird to them so you're in Myers and the FIA's good graces
it leaves it open for headcanon really, nothing to say V didn't just visit NC for closure and then went back to accept Reed's offer. V has a lot of options, it's definitely the best ending as far as V's future goes but it's shit for pretty much everyone else you knew which is the point i guess
Definitely reddit moment. Pathetic
3rd one is talking about sun ending
Misclicked, sorry
it's ok
Nothing is stopping V from taking the job at Langley after the Tower ending. I know people tend to shit on that ending but its just another fresh start for V, he’s free to live out his way in every way that is not being a legendary solo. He can go to Langley, he can go with Misty, he can open a garage somewhere and tinker with machines for the rest of his life or whatever else he wants.
And considering the Corpo background. We know that V would be able to succed as a handler og in a management position in the agency
The only background I could see struggling is the street kid
>He's as big as a corpo-slave as Goro is
That speech about Arasaka saving him from the town they poisoned. Fuck man, I like Takemura - great character, great actor - but jesus christ.
fuck songbird
i wish i could've blown her away with a shotgun instead of nicely uplugging her
i forgot what V's orders were when finishing PL up and both reed and the president told V to fuck off, pretty much - but afterwards, reed admits V made the right decision.
songbird is a pathological liar, a literal cyberpsycho, and with her fucking with the blackwall, an actual danger to humanity in cp2077's lore
>songbird is a pathological liar
Out of necessity. Used to be a smalltime cyber-criminal who fucked with corpo sites until she was blackmailed by Reed to join FIA or have herself and everyone she cared about feel the long glowing dick of the law in one way or another. Lying to anyone and everyone is the only way out for her in a profession where honesty gets you nowhere.
>and with her fucking with the blackwall
The only reason she did is because Myers forced her to, and her whole reason for going to the moon is getting rid of that Blackwall shit. Myers is the kind of frigid cunt to just find another gifted runner and force him to fuck with the Blackwall for personal gain.
I agree, Killing her after Betraying her is the best ending. She’s too dangerous, she’s a fucking nuke and I trust neither Blue Eyes nor Meyers with her.
it would've been cool if there was a third story path which involved V and kurt teaming up to stop songbird, but that's cuz i liked kurt as a character.
>Sure, but he's not an actual dog. He's human, and capable of critical thinking
you'd be surprised how much you can brainwash humans. Stockholm Syndrome is a thing after all
100%
Is it your gamma or having ray tracing making her hotter
Cyberpunk was 9/10
Phantom Liberty took it up a notch 11/10
Yeah, absolutely.
It's pretty good for that price, it's probably the "game" I've enjoyed most from this year so far including armored core, though it wins that more because of quantity than quality.
Environmental storytelling is great, really really well done, just art and music in general for both the base game and the expansion.
Combat is improved over the original game but still not very satisfying because AI enemies are all still 100% just retarded mooks you kill in 3 hits. I'd rather have fewer enemies but the fights are interesting - more like when you're up against a cyberpsycho - instead of 15 enemies but there's nothing more to a fight then clicking heads.
Gigs are a step up from the base game in overall quality
NPC's in general are still retarded and freak out over stupid things like opening a locked door in their sight
In general a huge lack of reactivity to player choices and actions, it's almost as dead as a bethesda game when it comes to the consequences of decisions you've made - questlines are basically self-contained and what happens in gigs and quests rarely impacts anything meaningful outside them
I'd say it's generally an improvement but they really haven't fixed the biggest issues the game has - linear storytelling, moviegame-itis, bad AI, poorly developed game mechanics, and poor reactivity to player choices.
Clothing management has no excuse to be as bad as it is
Driving weirdly has a lot of code depth to it but yet is still so poorly done that everything feels like its skating on ice with 5000hp engines producing massive oversteer
audio and music are great but the sound design is fucking awful with 3 different songs playing at once in areas because of radios that are permanently on, and soundscape bugs that make things way quieter or louder than they should be at random
Overall the macro elements are good, but the details especially relating to actual gameplay are super underbaked
I think for the sequel they should probably drop the RPG pretense. It's really not working and they aren't giving any indication they can make it work. It's an action adventure game more than an RPG
>Environmental storytelling is great
The city is filled to the brim with screens blasting obnoxious ads 24/7 and you're telling me that somehow most of them aren't vandalized, even in the shittiest neighborhoods and back alleys? In Night City, an abject, trash-ridden shithole with corpses everywhere and gang killings in borad daylight? Fucking Pacifica, where cops go to commit suicide, has TV pylons blaring ads, and they're just fine. What an oversight.
the ads keep running because corps value marketing over human life
So every time a nagger in Pacifica or Dogtown rips down a screen to pawn for drugs, or takes a potshot at it, or sprays his tag on it, the entertainment technology equivalent of Trauma Team drops in, heavily armed and ready to kill, to hook up a new ad screen? Now that's dystopian.
>rips down a screen to pawn for drugs
Pretty sure it's easier to pawn off limbs from civies, screens seem like they're worth jackshit.
worth playing but not worth paying for since CDPR doubled down on some of the most annoying shit in CP77
It does cartwheels over the base game. It goes back to the "morally grey" stuff from the Witcher while pretty much every side mission in the base game has a "good" ending. The two leads are really well written though I'm sure anons will bitch their little pussies out because flawed characters give them an aneurism. They need to be told who GOOD GUY is.
I hated the last mission.
In the end, everything felt so forced.
The fuck? What fucking cope is this.
The night cavalry are already a better idea of people chasing you compared to polices in CB at launch.
There is a reason CPDevs were made fun of. They wholeheartedly earned it
For me it's watching Lizzy Wizzy live in concert and ignoring the mission objectives.
I mean, they literally give you a BD recording of it that you can watch back at your home, so clearly they WANTED players to watch it.
It WAS a legitimate production. They probably sunk hundreds of manhours into that so I don't blame em for showing it off. Looked great too.
This quest was trash. On rails garbage. Fuck you, OP. have a nice day.
Dream On
that fucking quest was the manchurian candidate all over again.
loved every minute of it, because its implications are terrifying.
schizo kino
Fucking this. It lacked the shock value of Sinnerman but is way way more fucked up and dark.
just finished this quest, pretty fucking kino way to drive the message home
and yeah, the message thing, cdpr has excellent writers. its refreshing to see how good writing and quest design affects the overall experience, everything comes to life when couple of quests like this are present
those fucking ads
I'd vote for Peralez, he was that voice of dissent.
he reminds me of kitchen gun
I like how the brainwashing makes him. Even more pro the people and anti corp
>and yeah, the message thing, cdpr has excellent writers.
that's what made me like the game even in the unfinished 1.0 state. Even the dlc is pretty great, pretty much every side quest there reinforces the theme of double guessing everyone's intention and how nothing is what it seems at face value
WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T FIX THE TV
WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE
TV showed that the blackwall is involved in some way.
>In some way
The entirety of the quest only exists because of rogue AIs from beyond the Blackwall collaborating with Night Corp (which might be run by an AI) to brainwash and influence potential candidates to further their goals in the real world
Peralez being one of the more notable examples
ooooookay.
V? Can you call back? V? I think they are everywhere? V? VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE????????
How did Peralez even make it to run for mayor in such a corrupt shithole and didn't get zeroed the moment he showed ambition and disregard for the corpo overlords?
The puppet masters who actually run night city WANT people like him to run though, at least once in a while. The person gains popularity for their anti-corruption/progressive views, and then before they're put into office they'll slowly be transformed into a more useful tool, whose new ideals will fit their overlords plans better.
Peralez only (potentially) manages to even catch onto this shit happening because one of the brainwashing workers fucked up and got caught skulking around the apartment. + because Peralez coincidentally managed to meet up with V and found them to be trustworthy when it came to hush-hush shit like this.
wasn't there something about how after he started campaigning, he took a less anti-corpo stance, and more of pro-federalist/NUSA stance? (That's why 6th Street are backing him up so hard, they think Peralez will stop NC from being a Free City and rejoin the NUSA.)
That could mean the real puppetmasters here are trying to get NC to rejoin the NUSA, I guess to maybe kick out Arasaka?
>Dream On
indeed, my disappointment is that it had no continuity, even through the game implies all your ties to the case are cut.
they could at least put some acknowledgement of that in the tower ending. (afaik there is none)
dont fear the reaper. finally going balls to the wall and fucking up arasaka in a suicide run is fun
the quest where you pay a visit to the guys that records BD's with children.
and just because i'm an asshole i killed his son right in front of him while they were still linked with each other.
the father and son are editors not recorders
Fuck them. They're complacent.
as is v and johnny and almost everyone in the fucking game. the only redeemed one is the one who larp as jesus
They are editors who help pick children for shoots, create the scenarios that will be filmed, and run advertising and distribution to clients ensuring further market growth and expansion. They are absolutely 1000% complicit and not some unrelated sideshow to running the business.
That quest was weird
I didn't really have a take regarding the guy's weird jesus act so I was pretty much just getting paid to watch this guy fellate himself and the nail him to a cross.
you gotta be crazy to want to do something selfless, right?
Is it selfless though?
It seemed like the guy was just having an ego trip.
He became convinced while in jail that he was the second coming of christ and even went as far as filming himself getting crucified because he wanted other people to see him that way. That sounds like delusions of grandeur, narcissism, by helping him with the crucifixion you were basically helping the dude satisfy his fetish.
then why ask for forgiveness from his victim's family for an ego trip?
Because "He's Jesus" you have to forgive Jesus ...right?
He wanted control, he wanted to be able to pressure his victim's families into forgiving him.
Them forgiving him fed into his delusion of being a martyr.
>you have to forgive Jesus
???
for what
> he wanted to be able to pressure his victim's families into forgiving him.
except he made no attempt to persuade or appeal to the mother of the victim when she came home and cussed him out. He accepts it immediately and leaves.
Honestly, I felt the same. I just wanted to have an option to both throw a wrench into that corpocunt's plan AND to make that fucker suffer. Something like calling him out on his bullshit and leaving him. Either he quits and gets the chair, or he doesn't and braindance is contaminated with doubt, regret and despair to the point of being unusable
You can make him question his own faith to the point that the braindance, loose most of its message.
The cunt will call you a few days alter, raving about how you ruined everything
>all part of gods plan
>hang up
>you can sense the seething
It's more interesting to let him complete his "performance" art. It's why Johnny also wants you to play it straight, in his mind he did the same with the last gig and his suicide mission in Arasaka tower
Favorite song? For me its
Especially when you learn the lore about the song, how it was the last song recorded, presumably literally right before Johnny blew up saka tower, and you realize that some of the lines point to his mindset leading up to that event. Its so fucking good, honestly its kinda weird that so many people sleep on it compared to chippin in and never fade away.
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idk man I know its pretty vanilla but this tune really hypes me the fuck up
for me, it's
Sinnerman had a few nods to the story of Jesus too. V and Johnny quoting the 2 thieves who was crucified next to Jesus, going into the diner that has exactly 12 people sitting at the table, and the corpo bitch trying to buy you out to leave him alo e like the israelites did with Judas
The one where you walk/drive around a location listening to cringe dialogue
the one thing that really bothered me about this quest is that they had to make up a futuristic hammer model to use. neon glow and chrome. why?
It's a cyberhammer
The one where you go to avenge the preacher's son, featuring the father/son BD duo.
The first and only time in vidya where I questioned my own morality.
>Walk in to editing room, wake the father/son up
>blah blah blah please don't kill us
>grab the quest item and go to leave
>Pause for a second and wonder if the devs do any thing for killing them
>shoot the son
>father gets out of his chair and grieves the loss of his son
>listen to him cry for like 10 - 20 seconds
>blow his brains out mid way
>Minute or two after leaving it hit me how fucked up it is to kill someone, watch their relative grieve, and then kill the relative
It only kinda bothered me the first time but it was a little bit "wow, why the fuck did I do that?"
If you read their files, the father is a manipulative bastard and the titles of their films imply some pretty heinous shit.
>don't kill us!
>revolted by their bullshit
>grabbed the BD, took a look around, find their room and see a computer
>read the messages
>recognize names
>they were in contact with Jotaru from the wattson gig, and likely the people in the shipping container you free in the police scanner side hustle in the area we're either going to them or jotaru
>Filled with fury
>turn back around and kill his son with the gorilla arms.
>let him cry
>I smoke a cigarette and watch him, in this moment I am divine retribution for the victims
>Say to myself "when you meet god you will have no tears to cry for mercy because you left them on earth."
>gorilla arms, strong strike to the face
>incendiary grenade the room
>get into my little mule, radio's playing chipping in, its night and rainy
Let me tell you doing those gigs and side stuff before that mission all lined up perfectly. It certainly put me in a mood and its one that I wont forget. I dropped the game halfway through and should restart to do PL but I'm a little lazy.
>>they were in contact with Jotaru from the wattson gig
i fucking love just how connected even the trashiest quests are. Something as simple as an ncpd hustle still has details that enrich other quests.
It's very good, but it also reminds you how this game could have been great.
I remember theres one gig where you break into a penthouse and confront a corpo scientist who did fucked up lethal product testing's on a group of Nomads, to ensure the product was quality. And she begs you to let her back up the data, so their death wasnt for nothing.
Then in the John Wick gig, if you open the trunk and talk to the hostage, he will tell you his name and that he works in quality assurance, which makes you think he is just a innocent victim. But if you did the first gig and is playing a Nomad, then you can recognize his name from the scientists messages and confront him on the product testing on innocent people.
i love letting her get up to "back up her data" just to put a round into the back of her skull
Its even rewarded since the bitch uses your mercy, to call the guards on you.
It was satisfying.
It's the perfect storm of criteria where the outcome is absolutely miserable no matter what you choose to do. I think I ended up just blasting them both with a rocket while they were unaware.
the voice acting for the both of them was also excellent, it really felt like i just murdered some guy's son
And that's why I love doing it every single time I replay the game
Sometimes reloading a save just to do it again with different weapons and methods
>Quickhack Suicide the son
I usually let the old man live. No better way to break a man than to end his line.
With how fucked up they are, I have no regrets. Tbh it's harder to decide who to kill first
The one where you unfold a conspiracy that an AI has been brainwashing and controlling a rich couple into becoming the perfect mayor candidate for some unknown reason and it ends with the AI cutting all contact between V and your clients for knowing too much.
There is this reaccuring location in Watson. A limb clinic/sales center used by Maelstrom to conduct initiations or just lay low and do moda. There are two gigs there as well as an NCPD mission, three encounters. I like the lore of this place and enjoy purging it in all my playthroughs.
dream on really made me think
The uninstall game quest
I honestly just enjoy killing shit because the combat is fun now
t. BODY REFLECT TECH
I honestly wish the game were harder. If you actually use all the options the game gives you, it's piss easy, even on very hard. Having a fully realized build with some synergies actually feels unfair with how you're rolling over absolutely everything. The only thing posing even the remotest threat is maxtac on open ground, which will eventually overwhelm you with sheer numbers. But even that is no problem with some builds, and nothing in the game where actual quests are concerned ever rises to that level.
I instantly killed the prisoner guy with a Sandevistan. Didn't know I'd miss a cool quest because of it.
Feels like the game is filled with little things that are so easy to miss. Like the same mentioned Lina quest.
Blackwall deck you get when siding with Reed possibly has few interactions with cybernetic stuff (I haven't tested it yet). It already has unique lines, you can only get in some of the quests. Just imagine interaction with Delamain and that Cynosure AI? We'll see.
But all I mentioned are few dialogue lines, there are many missable quests, as you said.
Do Skippy and the talking Cyberdeck have any interactions when you use both?
No idea, still have to see
Skippy was one thing that got to my mind
>Skippy
>Delamain
>That talking wending machine
>Alt and/or Mikoshi
Is using Skippy and the Cynosure Deck while driving in your Delamain car the highest AI-maxxing V can achieve?
Canto/Erebus mocks Delamain in Don't lose Your Mind
HUNT DOWN
HUNT DOWN
HUNT DOWN
A LIKE SUPREME
HUNT DOWN
HUNT DOWN
HUNT DOWN
HUNT IT DOWN NOOOOOOOOOOOOW
I like the one where you shoot the guys in that warehouse
hope you got trauma team
Daily reminder not to believe her lies
i really wish she had more interactions with Johnny, it such a cool moment to have someone else see him
'll help her anyway as much as she needs, period
Help her to oblivion.
can you shoot this guy in front of the camera? or are you locked into doing what he wants?
For me, it's automatic love. Great premise, makes you expect typical cyberpunk degeneracy and then hits you with the intimate dialogue. Absolute kino.
>robot designed to determine and fulfil your deepest darkest desires
>looks into your eyes strokes your hair and tells you everything will be okay
Nah, it's 100% cyberpunk.
oh absolutely but by typical degeneracy I meant I expected the more obvious sexual or violent stuff.
I mean, it's what people generally get there.
It's not what V needed or wanted.
V wanted answers.
Doll just already knew the questions.
they're not robots, technically.
they're humans with "behavior chips" - i think of at as they'd be posessed by clouds' AI, which is synced to the customer's desires and personalities. the game doesn't really explain what dolls really are
I know, I was just putting it in a more generic fashion to make my point. Probably could've said "AI" rather than robot to be fair.
Your deepest desire is having someone to talk with. Who will listen, understand and be honest with you.
Its one of my favorite parts of the game
So you know how in the Sun/Temperance endings Alt explains how V can't return to his body for more than six months, because it has adjusted to being Johnny's body now and would reject him?
One question I really missed there and which I don't think the game ever answers is why can't we just do the same thing in reverse? Let Johnny return to the body, put V, who already is an engram at that point, onto the relic shard, and let him overwrite Johnny. Or hell, get V onto the relic or a similar shard, slap him into one of the dead Arasaka dudes, and let him drive the corpse, which was what the relic was originally supposed to do anyway. That was the first question immediately jumping to my mind at that reveal, and I couldn't find an answer.
Why can't Alt just write V over someone dead (as it was intended from start)? And let Jhonny take V's body (lmao, enjoy being a woman, looser)
Win / win for both
I'm pretty sure putting you on engram kills you.
Sure, there's another V out there now, but it's not You, just like Johnny's just an Engram.
The real Johnny's dead and buried.
That might be a good point. It's not made super clear, but from the way I understood it, the moment you hooked into Mikoshi, Alt just made you into an Engram. At least that's what she says. So I assume it's the "real" V, and not a copy or something. But the nature of Engrams, and whether or not the "real" person is still around after getting soulkiller'd is never made explicitly clear I don't think.
I choose to interpret it like the "coinflip" from Soma. Engram is made and it's 50/50 whether it's (You) or not, but ultimately doesn't matter.
Everyone in the game speak of engrams as being copies of your brain.
Maybe "you" are in that engram, but it's really unclear and i doubt so.
It's not like the people who worked with the relic actually understood 100% what they were working on.
Songbird says it's a gate to the future for AIs.
V becomes a copied engram in every ending. That's how alt is able to separate you. Hell, you're technically dead from the end of the prologue onwards.
>technically dead from the end of the prologue onwards.
No, you technically died.
The relic brings your brain back online.
>The relic brings your brain back online
Not quite. It's not like you just conked out and were defibbed back to life, a bullet went through your head. The relic notices you're dead and activates, preserving what's left of the brain and readying it for the transfer. The relic is doing the neural heavy lifting from then on, that's why it can't be removed. V would be a braindead vegetable at best without it.
deffinetly Sinnerman. too bad phantom liberty didnt have much and didnt surpass this great quest.
are there mods to swap the guy on the cross for a girl
asking for a friend
If you get mantis blades and a sandevistan and all other combat implants, including Kiroshi optics, how does V go back to being full ganic?
They're probably just the absolute base level prosthetics.
Cloning tissues
my favorite ending so far is the one where you sit and cry on Misty's roof only for Johnny to be like "or... we say fuck it and storm Arasaka alone. because if we're dying anyway, might as well go down swinging right?" then go in, body the waves of guards, body Smasher, hook up to Mikoshi, have one last heart to heart with Johnny as his engram crosses the Blackwall with alt, then return to your body as a living legend and take on the space casino heist. unfiltered kino imho. i wound up sending Song to the moon despite her deception, which sadly meant blasting Reed. probably suboptimal but fuck it, it's roleplay. worth going back and siding with Reed for the surgery option?
after seeing PL ending, this one is now my ideal ending for V. It keeps your promise to Johnny that you'll let nothing change who you are and after PL and the shit he was doing to the Peralezes, Blue Eyes really is your best chance at getting fixed
Why is an AR/SMG build so much more fun than everything else?
because the level 20 perks for those weapons are insanely broken
Are they? I tried all weapon times, and melee and pistols felt like the strongest by far, followed by thrown weapons. Shotguns were alright, but at least on very hard their bodyshot focus sucks shit, minus Headsman. ARs and SMGs felt the weakest to me.
What about that quest with River where you hunt for his brother(?) only to discover the serial killer farm guy who would kidnap boys and hook them to feeding troughs and chrome so as to capture their nightmares(?) or something. Ok tbqh I forgot exactly what that guy was doing but that shit felt straight out of Twin Peaks or X-Files, one of the darker good episodes.
Cyberpunk77 has not been matched and I doubt it will be until 'Orion' releases in 10 years and we get to continue the Mr Blue Eyes saga.
I wanted to have sex with Alex...
Even after seeing her embarrassing dancing scene?
the questline with the Vending machine
never did Sinnerman outside of the first one because the last time I didn't do what I was hired to do, the game chewed me out for it
I really enjoyed the side quest where you had to track down and then talk to the various emotional Delamain limos.
How do i get the gigs? It seems like I get a hundred calls from the fixers but never receive any gigs in the journal
Look at the map, set filter to jobs, drive to green exclamation mark icons, fixer will call you with the job
no?
its like a sheet of paper, there are no green exclamation marks I think?
They show up on the map if you zoom in enough. Once the gig has been started then it shows up in your questlog
we have hit a new low when people think driving in cyberpunk is challenging enough to declare 'skill issue' to detractors
Genuinely, what are you struggling with? I've seen the "driving on ice" comments. I've seen clips where people will just swerve into things for no discernible reason. Is it because it doesn't have hyper-aggressive traction control like GTAV? Because even then cars won't oversteer that much unless you make them.
im not struggling im not even apart of this conversation its just gay to say skill issue for something so innocuous that even a child can do it
>so innocuous that even a child can do it
That's precisely the point.
i should reiterate
>i dont like it
>skill issue
is retarded
People claim to not like the driving model in this game because they believe it to be slippery and hard to control. It is not, therefore it can only be a skill issue.
it is slippery and "hard to control"
t. cuphead journo
i like the driving and it is more slippery compared to its peers
why you equate that with skill instead of personal preference is strange, especially for something not very challenging in the first place
raise your e-peen maybe?
a random shitmobile slapped together in TOTK has more intuitive controls than dev crafted vehicles in cyberpunk
Again, I'm not saying this conclusion isn't real. I'm saying I don't know how you could possibly have come to it.
Is Phantom Liberty worth it? How much does it actually add?
>How much does it actually add?
almost nothing to the base game, but dogtown is a better district than the rest of the game and the quest is better than the base game
and give songbird back to the NUSA. The cunt deserves what they'll do to her
>2077 got good DLC
>RE4R got good DLC
>Devil Engine finally released it's good DLC that was finished years ago but wasn't published due to legal issues
i can't choose which game to revisit. when I started up a new 2077 run the early levels felt so weak and shitty I stopped playing.
The trick is to not try for a melee or netrunner build in the early parts of the game. Just use guns and shoot shit. Melee is awful until you can get body or reflexes to 15
The father/son XBD duo. Shooting the son in the face and having the father wail and scream for his son before blowing his brains out too was one of the most satisfying ends to a quest I've had the pleasure of experiencing recently. Always a nice treat when they're genuinely irredeemable monsters instead of some grey area bullshit.
Same for this guy, to a lesser extent. Try as he might to weasel his way out, it still ends with a Grad round through his mouth. Death to all scavs and scav enablers.
you know you can just call that guy out on what he is obviously doing, and never have to wake up naked in a Scav Den right
But then how do I massacre the scavs in the scav den with my monowire?
Then you can't kill all scavs in the den via self defense situations
Also I made a toasty Black in the end
Where is his father? I punched him in the face and he just lied dead
The guy in the image is alone, the father/son XBD is a different mission where they're side-by-side laying on braindance beds.
>always a nice treat when they're genuinely irredeemable monsters instead of some grey area bullshit
>he doesn't know
Nah, not this time, those two were directly responsible for certain extremely gruesome XBDs being made, the logs make it explicitly clear that the pair are utter degenerates.
An email convo in the building states that the kid is good-hearted but sheltered as hell and unaware of the ramifications of what he's doing. It's also clear that he adores his father, who is possibly his only friend and caregiver. The father is in fact an irredeemable sociopath, but he isn't lying when he says their deaths won't slow the XBD trade one bit.
>kill neither of them and walk: you are now theoretically complicit in their production
>kill the father: a genuinely evil man is put to justice and the kid is free but doomed to a life of sorrow, fear and confusion
>kill the son: the father is made to suffer the pain he inflicted but an "innocent" had to die to do it
>kill them both: achieve a hollow moral victory that solves nothing (or mercy kill the kid I guess)
I suppose it hinges on whether you judge morality via action or intent. I killed them both.
Dude, they worked on fucking smut and death videos, with children in them.
The son isn't a kid, he's a full-blown adult and is in no way innocent.
He's a stunted manchild. He only got involved because his father groomed him into it. The email is between the father and a former dealer and goes something to the effect of
>I knew you were low but I can't believe you dragged the boy into it, he's a good kid
>heh heh whatchu gonna do about it moralfag that retard loves me lol bye
>he's a good kid
>because some smut xbd dealer said it
The kid chose to stay with his father's porn making with kids in it, he's amoral.
Again I agree with you mostly, I detonated them after all. Just saying it's hardly clear-cut.
Its like calling the slow nephew from Making a Murdere, a innocent kid. Despite helping in the rape and murder of a woman
The serial killer cow farm guy quest (called The Hunt) actually gave me feelings of disgust. Pretty rare to be feeling anything in a vidya. that quest will stick with me
prob the cyberpsycho questline even though it was just ripping off rambo.
the game had really forgettable narrative elements compared to witcher 3 which is a shame. v always felt like he was never established, his motives are unclear and he is just being dragged along by chungus man. the side quests were super forgettable, where were the cool quests like the island adventure, ghost whale cave, devil in a well or the plague tower like quests from W3...?
crafting either the erebus or the canto is morally wrong
I’m using both and there is nothing you can do to stop me, NetWagie
I'm playing for the first time, got to the quest in which I help Panam get her car back. When is the best time for me to start the DLC?
after you fuck panam
The second you finish the blackwall dive with the voo doo boys is the best time to start it.
What's the best assault rifle?
Hawk or Prejudice
>Cyberpunk as genre is inspired by Do Androids Dream
>Phillip K Dick was heavily inspired by gnostic writings
>CP2077 has no quests relating to any of it
>But here's a quest where a schizo who wants to reenact the crucifixion
Fucking no good pollacks
Gnosticism is cringe. Good riddance.
the one that involves Panam's massive brapper
Hello dogtown, this is bennett, kurt hansen is dead, i repeat, kurt hansen is dead!
FIND LE KAMYONET
how do you unlock the us cracks sex scene?
delete system 32
Which is more fun between gorilla arms and blunt weapons ?
Blunt weapons have that that super slam.
you can do the Slam with Gorilla Arms
I've been doing hacking and blunt weapons for my most recent playthrough. The new sprint move is ace. Disabling people with hacks then shoulder-charging the fuck out of them is very satisfying.
The date with River was just something I've never experienced in a game before. Sure other missions have been unique or deal with philosophy but cooking supper together, playing with his niece and nephew, confessing to each other, it was just so caring.
M'Baku is a real one
Isnt that peter absolutely pathetic
No idea who the other people are
In the second movie he got back with MJ and had a child and even as a depressed slob he still had little problem dealing with another universe's rogue's gallery.
Some people perceive him as pathetic when he is in fact a happy and enthusiastic father.
Idk man I dont watch movies with black protagonists
I have just seen some scenes of him being a whiny bitch
Then you're deliberate ignorance has allowed you to adopt a fairly uninformed take, which is fine but that is what it is.
Only those scenes being shared around paints a picture no?
>is a good mentor
>got his shit back together
>married qt
>is a good dad
if that's pathetic i fear what your life is like
Sinnerman, the serial killer questline, hanging out with Judy, and the political conspiracy plot where absolutely no one wins.
Oh and the boxing one made me smile. Love the cheesy Rookie rising to the top and denying to take a fall for money story.
I wanna stick my entire hand in Kiwi's missing lower face.
Hold on you can save Takemura during the raid?
Walk around until you find your way back up
The game doesnt tell you anything in that one instance
I remember on my first playthrough I searched for a way for a bit and then just moved on thinking id somehow loop around and then the quest just ends
>Walk around until you find your way back up
i jumped back up but my V is built different
huh shit never even thought of that
During my first playthrough Takemura was glitching out during that whole cutscene he was knocked unconscious, so I assumed him T-posing made me miss an animation of him getting shot or something.
Didn't learn until I beat the game that he was just knocked out.
When Johnny tells you to leave and V is like "I cant just leave Goro", there is a hole in the wall in the first room(There might be a hallway first, cant remember the whole layout). The hole is marked with a neon blue cross, and you fight your way up to the apartment again to save him. You split up after the quest and he only show up again if you do the Arasaka ending, where he even gets a final scene in the epilogue. If you chose any other ending, he will call you to tell you he is going to commit honourable suicide and that he blames you for it. If you chose the Tower ending for the DLC then he calls to tell you that since you disappeared him and Hanako tried to do the Arasaka ending without you and failed, leading to her death and him being a homeless wanted man, and he blames you for that.
All in all, its better to let him die if you dont plan on doing the Arasaka ending.
Making the bartender seethe by winning the race
Ludo kino
I am somewhat interested in this game now that it has apparently been fixed.
Is it an open world RPG like Bethesda, or is it a GTA clone? Or is it DXHR but bigger?
If its a GTA clone I am not going to bother.
GTA meets DXHR with a lot of RPG mechanics
Not sure what you dislike about GTA but there's no reason you wouldn't like it based on that alone
It leans more into DXHR than GTA. The GTA elements are there but they aren't a primary focus. It's a series of elaborate rollercoaster rides as far the quests go. And it's quite good at that.
>Is it an open world RPG like Bethesda
Yes. The tone and overall story is just more like a GTA game. Its a trans-GTA bethesda game.
its first person watch dogs
It has elements from all of them. I personally don't like GTA or DXHR but really enjoy Cyberpunk.
its DXHR on steroids
its half as vertical but 5 times more horizontal. It also hides the fact that 95% of buildings are decorations really well as game takes you around many small or large interiors, so you get to see different eateries and arcades and dives and high end hotels, clubs etc at least 2-3 times so when you see a sign, or when someone only mentions a place, you get to understand what they are talking about
fuck, the opposite
>half as horizontal and 5 times more vertical
the broken dick man quest
for me it's the mizutani hozuki "hoseki"
mizutani shion is for flash posers
yeah, i drive a caliburn
nova
Outlaw for me, choom
the weaponized Outlaw is ridiculous
its fast
it has infinite grip
it has guns
it has FUCKING RAYFIELD CRYSTALDOME while being a Herrera
It's my favorite car in 2077
I used it in all the races and it left every vehicle in the dust
i wonder why the main plot was absolute dogshit when it has plenty of great sidequests
I read somewhere that they majorly rewrote the main plot pretty far into development, to focus on Keanu Reeves. Its also why the main quest feels so short and abrupt.
it makes sense, you can tell the prologue and act 1 were meant to be much longer
yeah that's definitely not true at all
they had most of Johnny's dialogue written before Reeves was cast, which meant the story was always gonna be about how V gets him stuck in V's brain
thank you for clearing that up cdprojekt worker
no problem
The one where I was stuck sitting next to a hotdog booth for eternity.
honestly i'm just happy we can finally have good 2077 threads and not just shitposting
It's become something that passes for a good game, which helps. Also for a story heavy game, it took the expansion to finally get some good story shit that's worth discussing and arguing about.
You can find better 2077 discussion on V than on the 2077 /vg/ thread nowadays
Ironic
I wish there were more options. Fucking her with the blackmail being one. I'd still kill her afterwards lmao
>Fucking her with the blackmail being one
The bitch is backed by the sports industry, which even in our world is corrupt and unethical on par with major corpos. One lone dude blackmailing her with something the industry has already bought into didn't really strike me as a realistic proposition. Personally, I just made her think I agreed to her deal, then tossed a hatchet in her eye, that solved the problem.
They wouldn't let us blackmail and fuck her.
Johnny would force you to go flacid out of pure spite for her
PL had a disappointing lack of romance options coming from the studio that made Witcher. Where was my Alex sex scene??
I wanted to "pump" Aurore for "information", if you know what I mean
sex with lucy and songbird on the moon
So when should I start Phantom Liberty in the story?
whenever you want after you unlock it, it's level scaled anyway (sigh) and in-universe it'd just be you looking for another possible lead on how to get the chip out of your head.
if you wanna roleplay i'd say finish up the evelyn subplot, although i don't recall if you still have things to do after unlocking the dlc
>although i don't recall if you still have things to do after unlocking the dlc
PL unlocks after doing the VDB shit and meeting Alt, which I think is about halfway-ish through the main story, depending on which path you take.
>(sigh)
why sigh? the game is already easy as fuck and level scaling at least makes it so you don't have to do certain things early to avoid completely steamrolling it later, like the entirety of watson and japantown
>it's level scaled anyway (sigh)
I am the only one who prefere the new wide-not-tall leveling system?
cdpr was always shit with "rpg elements" anyway.
it's just a concept i hate in rpgs, but i have to say 77's version is one of the better ones, mostly cuz you have a lot of horizontal progression that change and evolve your options
Played this last week while dogsitting - reading through the thread made me realize I missed quite a few interesting sidequests.
But my favourite quest was probably the Peralez one. Shit's spooky.
What's more spooky is it's based in reality
You did read all those shards about neuroplasticity and using sounds to rewire the brain right? That's what those binaural sissy vids were and that trend was legitimately started by glowies
I skipped a lot of reading cause I was on a bit of a time crunch to get through the game and not leave it unfinished.
I intend to pick the game up for myself in a few months where I'll likely 100% it proper.
You missed out on a lot
are you a video game journalist?
Elaborate way to write out subhuman
>glowies become worried about Gankers growing influence and real world shenanigans
>start posting sissy hypno porn
>it works
lmao
>Killed him immediately
I have a reputation that I have to uphold to. I am mad that I couldn't kill the corpo whore.
can a i7-6700k + gtx 1080ti run this games?
Yes, but don't be greedy, you will need to tinker with the settings.
Sure, played through entire game on 1060 on release and it was running smooth. You'll have to crank some details down, obviously, might need to downscale, though 1080 is way better than 1060, so I wonder if you'll even have to go into any extremes.
1080ti is still a perfectly competent low-mid card, even in 2023. It has no modern nvidia gimmicks, and admittedly you could want some DLSS for whenever game goes below 60fps, but all in all, 1080ti raw power sits above 3060 afaik
Easily. I played this game on release on a 90k with a 1080 and it was on high for the entire game. Like the other anons said just don’t be greedy with the lighting and density
Probably the Black Sapphire heist. Followed up by the rescuing Evelyn mission
Sooo are is Mr blue eyes just a reskin of Gman?
>Wake up… wake up…Mr.V
>Its…time to… choose.. Mr. V
>That’s why I’m here, Mr. V... I have recommended your services to my employers…and they have authorized me to offer you a job. They agree with me…that you have limitless potential.
>Its time to choose…Mr V
It is not that deep, it is heavily implied they are a proxy for the rogue AIs. They are also at the airport because Songbird is a cocoon for one (or some) of them and they have some influence on the moon/orbit.
Hoping cp2 will be a horrorish AI rampant game whenever we get stuck behind the black wall somehow. Survival punk2 sounds exciting and can actually be an rpg
Ive seen somebody say that he might be the founder of Night city. Or an AI engram of him
I liked many quests, including the one you posted. One of my favorites was Somewhat Damaged (Militech secret underground lab from the Reed's path). I like Survivor Terror, rogue AIs, and games like Alien Isolation. It was easy but very immersive. It was refreshing to be helpless for once in this game, and I played at very hard difficulty.
It also gave much more lore about Songbird and the Blackwall than the Songbird path and both endings were more emotional and fitted more with the themes of the game.
In one of the computers the AI even implied that our world is fake...
>wears sealed hazmat suit and rebreather against deadly airborne toxin
>rolls up sleeves
God damn it, V
Can someone explain to me why River is gay
But he isn't. Kerry is the male gay romance option
I got a option to kiss him while we were sitting on the water tower
Yeah, and he rejects you if you try
cod was always silly af but it had its own charm, since it fell to female writers it's worse than the fanfic level written by 10 y/o edge kids, Why are women so bad at writing? The only Western game released recently that I felt was a good story is cyberpunk 2077, which was written by male writers
The one with the guy kidnapping teenage boys and treating them like cattle. The ending pissed me off though.
I played for over 150h and just saw the acid rain once. At least I took some photos.
only once ? I had it once every 3 ingame days
that one, it felt so genuine.
Question is: which verse did you choose to recite?
I went with the excerpt from the Rigveda
I choose to recite The Lord's Prayer.
The Last Supper.
All the Johnny quests with Rogue and Kerry are great, perfect lead up to the ending
For a gig, the Cuckoo Nest mission had some very dark undertones about the state of "psychiatric care" in NC
How many side quests are there.
Either I missed a fuckton or the game is short as fuck. Is most of the side content gigs?
I feel like I'm fundamentally misunderstanding this stupid final Phantom Liberty quest on Reed's route with the plot armor deathbot. It just walks up on me when I'm in a dead end hallway and script-kills me from around the corner.
As an aside, this is a terrible deviation from their game formula and has me rapidly losing interest in finishing the DLC.
That part is awful and is why I am never siding with Reed again on subsequent playthroughs
Yeah it's really spectacular how it manages to fall flat on its face in the final moment here. Perhaps the first game where I quit out of the final mission and said "maybe I'll finish this later."