What went terribly wrong? They had such amazing games in the 90's and early 2000's

What went terribly wrong?
They had such amazing games in the 90's and early 2000's

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    trannies, homosexuals, and their enablers

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Recycled the story of Warcraft 3 like five fricking times
      Also they forgot what good gaming felt like

      >trannies, homosexuals, and ~~*their enablers*~~

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Explain

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bump for

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            bump

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Literally almost all WoW expansions are "Big bad invades so Alliance and Horde now had to work together, even despite the fact that both supposed to be left in the past, since WC3 destroyed both original Alliance and original Horde"
          Refusing to add third faction in TBC and locking entire game into 2 playable factions doomed WoW

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which were those 5 times the story was recycled tho?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Which were those 5 times the story was recycled tho?
              TBC
              WotLK
              Cataclysm
              WoD
              Legion
              The only exceptions are MoP and BfA, but even they ended up with Horde and Alliance uniting against big bad (so the only good exception is Thunder King addon where both Kirin'Tor and Blood Elves were pursuing their own goals)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What about the movie? Did it follow the canon or retconned everything too?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Did it follow the canon or retconned everything too?
                It's reduced the whole scale of First War

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            2 playable factions was good when Horde and Alliance actually fought.
            Over time the PvP incentive was simply not there.
            I was shocked to see alliance and horde players simply avoiding fighting in later expansions.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Play BfA if you really want Alliance vs Horde fight then

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Forget dumb scripted instanced areas and battlegrounds.
                I'm talking world pvp. That thing that is supposed to make the world less stale.
                It was just gone at one point.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >2 playable factions was good when Horde and Alliance actually fought.
              AKA only in Vanilla and sometimes in MoP and BfA (untill Alliance cried out).
              Introducing arenas in TBC bascially killed World PvP

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Introducing arenas in TBC bascially killed World PvP
                This.
                Too much min-maxing in builds came from arenas. World PvP was goofy and it had charm to it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Once an SJW HR got control, they will only allow people that follow their mind set.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would say you guys are wrong. Usually this is the right answer but the main problem is fact everyone believes this mythos Blizzard was great during thy early 00's but I would say when Warcraft 3 and WOW was coming out that was the start of their decline. They were riding the coattails of Warcraft hard and this was the sign of their greed being more focused on it than to try to make more Warcraft and Starcraft series that fans were begging them for years for. Yes Starcraft 2 came out eventually but because "it did not meet sales expectations " they decided to pull the plug and keep vanilla. But this was during the point where

      All their talent retired. That's really all there is to it.
      Blizzard as you knew them is dead and Activision is just wearing them like a skinsuit to sell a brand.

      Everything made post SC2 was made by essentially a different studio. A few of the remaining old veterans worked on HotS, WoW Cataclysm, Mists and WoD, but everything after that was Blizzard in name only.

      was retiring out due to age and we have the current crop we have today. Also if anyone doesn't think this is not happening with Rockstar studios and a few others they are kidding themselves and living on absolute copium.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Their early games were lightning in a bottle. Not even Blizzard really understood what made them good so when the time came that rehashing the formula was no longer viable there was nothing left but to coast on brand name recognition.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Diablo kickstarted a subtype of game of its own (ARPG)

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Warcraft 3 also kickstarted a genre (ASShomosexualS) but they missed it.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              How so?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You know what dota is right?
                Frankly I'm glad Blizzard never got their hands on it

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's because they lost DotA ownership to Valve in court, and then tried to enter the market with HotS, but failed miserably.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Underage. Blizzard had years to take advantage of DotA but ignored it until competitors started making clones, Valve was not even close to the first. It simply wasn't until Valve that finally acted.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes others were able to make good games taking inspiration from Blizzard's early hits but Blizzard could not.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes others were able to make good games taking inspiration from Blizzard's early hits but Blizzard could not.

            What are some good ARPGs that aren’t D2R or Diablo 4, both of which are pure goyslopium.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Path of Exile is the true Diablo 3

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’d play poe if not for the shit movement system.
                Let me bind movement to a key and use the mouse to move where I want to go instead of holding click. D3 wins on controls. I can’t play a game if it’s controls are hot garbage.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can just put move as a skill on your skill bar and use it with one of the QWERT binds. That's what I do because the incessant clicking ends up making my wrist tired otherwise.

                Only helps if your build can spare the slot though.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >D2R
              But they didn't change anything in game, unlike W3R

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. They tried to use the platform to push woke politics and that pushed people away. They eased off then BAM full wokeism. They permabanned me for asking about the checkboxes. Proof that they’re just a tool of the Antichrist.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Calling someone a gay Black person never got more than a giggle, now you get banned for 50 years.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this used to be a meme but now its reality. everything is getting ruined slowly. death by a thousand cuts. All I'm wondering now is how they're going to introduced LGBTQ+ into the new Diablo 4.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m so sick and tired of it. It’s gotta be costing companies millions of dollars.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eventually the pendulum will swing back, right?
          Right??

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            In a few decades, maybe.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but not soon enough. All these people claim they don’t want laws. Let’s actually abolish the police for a few months. Let’s see how it plays out. My guess is there won’t be any “strong women” and “lgbt” left to complain.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tons of evidence of corporate meddling by Bobby Kotick and his gang
      >NOOOOOO IT'S THE TRANNIES
      Classic divide and conquer tactics

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're just one of their many tools.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Trannies dont make games bad girls do. And trannies arent really girls.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The word you're looking for is patsy. They're a scapegoat to anything tangible that can be fixed. A mentally insane, hyperbolic distraction to go "Oh look, look, THIS is when the company went to shit!"
          That Anon is right. It wasn't the insane staff or the milking rooms, but something that occurred over a decade prior.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        May I see this evidence that all of blizzard's ineptitude is because of bobby kotick?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kotick took over Wotlk and started the israeliteery, know your gaming history

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kotick is a classic malignant narcissist.
          He's gone as far as to sockpuppet emails from subordinates addresses to sing his own praises.
          The mans a complete fricking clown case whos been grifting his way around dotcom and gaming since highschool.
          For whatever reason, gaming corporate is a dumping ground for these sorts of money-grubbing tools.

          And, can you give me your opinion?

          My opinion on stocks is unless you can tune into a call and say what the execs are gonna say before they say it, don't invest.
          Don't leverage yourself out and take risks you can't absorb.
          Don't invest in anything you aren't passionate about.
          Idk who the shit would be passionate about blizzard in current year except to watch them plummet.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >their enablers
        That's Bobby sweetheart

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Winds guide you @akPoodle

      fricking kills me every time

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >She doesn't stream yet, but she will soon!
        Did """she""" ever get around to that?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i still dont understand why ppl think turning into a girl will solve all their problems

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        p-people will be nicer to me and not say meanie things if i'm a g-girl

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        they're desperate for attention

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It gets despressed people that quick meaningless praise from twitter types. Once they lose interest and the dopamine hit fads they join the 41%. Its as shoet sided as shooting up heroin to deal with your personal issues.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine cutting your dick off then regretting it when things don't turn how you imagined.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It gets despressed people that quick meaningless praise from twitter types. Once they lose interest and the dopamine hit fads they join the 41%. Its as shoet sided as shooting up heroin to deal with your personal issues.

        Somehow, I have more respect for a dopehead than a troony. A guy slamming some heroin makes no illusions about what he is. He’s there to get high, he knows he’s a junkie, he accepts reality. A troony asks that you deny reality completely and accept them as something they aren’t, and even change laws around them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        same reason people believe having a gf will solve all their problems

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man can you imagine being a woman and when you finally start getting some recognition in different fields a bunch of wackos with a wig get in the way? Pffffffhahahha

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pick a girl every time in character creation for horny lulZ
      >end up trooning out
      this is it. this is the pipeline.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greed. That and trannies brainwashing the higher-ups. The downfalls of many a good company.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That doesn't explain Ghost being cancelled, or does it?

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    good people left and wokies took over

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's almost like BRAND means absolutely nothing, and its a group of people who make magic happen.
    Time killed Blizzard, everyone who made their great games retired or moved to other companies.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much. People are expecting consistent magic over several decades as if this is a rock band and not a high turnover fast food company.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Also making games is a young man's career. These people move on.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They get high off their own success. Just like many others who thought they were too big to fail.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Correct.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Microsoft

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    All their talent retired. That's really all there is to it.
    Blizzard as you knew them is dead and Activision is just wearing them like a skinsuit to sell a brand.

    Everything made post SC2 was made by essentially a different studio. A few of the remaining old veterans worked on HotS, WoW Cataclysm, Mists and WoD, but everything after that was Blizzard in name only.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      A lack of talent would explain a decline in game design or writing. Not purposely and almost vindictively ruining what was fine and working as intended.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Trust me you will be seeing it in all other companies soon. Rockstar games are next judging by the leaked plot and models.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not purposely and almost vindictively ruining what was fine and working as intended.
        Like..?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Warcraft 3.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Warcraft 3.
            And how it was ruined?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Reforged

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you genuinely don't know, I suggest looking up what they did instead of getting a qrd from Ganker. If you do know and are implying it wasn't ruined, then here's your (you).

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They made an MMO. MMO's degenerate developers and audiences.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    For Overwatch specifically it was made my MMO devs who desperately wanted to make an MMO, but were forced to make Team Fortress.

    They belittled their own community, refused to actually learn their game, and whenever they were faced with a problem, the game hastily reinvented itself rather than solve an issue.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    diversity = shit new devs

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    project titan killed them. it syphoned money and talent away from other games. wow devs got thrown at titan to try to make it work. even after it got killed and turned into overwatch, the looming corpse of titan killed overwatch's pve mode because the devs thought they could make it titan 2 lmao

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funnily enough, Pokémon Scarlet/Violet was also codenamed Titan and also killed the series as a whole…

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What went terribly wrong?
    activision happened and then they went public

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They went woke and the troony infection spread like wildfire.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fixed it for you OP

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the white tho?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't bloody think whites are allowed at Blizzard.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    World of Warcraft (2004)

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    they became big and attracted people who don't give a shit about video games
    then all the good people left

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Grew complacent with wow and it's really just all downhill from there

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Activision.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Activision take over turned the business from a bunch of nerds doing games they like to a money grabber for one mans ego.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blizzard originally started out as a home for a bunch of really talented creatives who made games with a shared vision.
    The first great problem was the wild success of world of warcraft.
    This necessitated expansion of the company and enticed in people like pardo and kaplan who are pretty much just entitled sociopathic gamers with no creative talent.
    This also coincided with the need to corporatize to handle both money and expansion. So now the artist whos drawing nelfs from porn references he keeps at his work station has to go, because that sort of creative process is corpo heterodox.
    Despite the fact the guys a genius and said look, we can put gnomes in the game if we just use the dwarf rigging, and does the work for it overnight.
    So through the expansion and corporatization, you hollow out the core of the creative team and begin introducing weird non creatives at the company who just get under peoples feet and generally make showing up at the office a fricking shitshow.
    This continues to escalate into the modern day where you have a completely replaced ship of Theseus comprised of entitled gamer sociopaths (also woke), taking marching orders from clueless malignant narcissistic frickheads like kotick.

    So really this whole titanic hindenburg fiasco can be laid at the feet of world of warcraft.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bill Roper was the MVP of Blizzard. Dude made all the games' voicelines and narration, so for me him alongside Chriz Metzen, with his artwork, leaving the studio was the time Blizzard seized to be amazing.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    World of Warcraft, that made so much money, and helped incentivize paying monthly for what you already paid for, eternally. No one gave a shit about Everquest; Everquest didn't start that shit, WoW popularized it.
    After all that revenue, it caught the attention of Vivendi-Activision, and they scooped it up and turned it into the husk it is now.

    It's weird how many WoWapologists/nostalgiagays there are on this board. It was only ever a neat idea from its inception, but even classic bastardized the lore and setting for the sake of immersion.
    It sure was immersive and immensely ambitious idea that worked out for them short-term, at least.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That company is Blizzard in name only. The company that made all the great games died a long time ago.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bunch of guys had some cool ideas for games
    >make really good games
    >they get too big and popular for their own good
    >sell out to suits
    >skip to modern day, suits start seeing woke shit on social media
    >oh boy, woke shit is popular, we need that in our games
    >suits acquire diversity hires
    >game quality drops drastically
    >the guys who made everything have no power and leaves
    >company starts to implode without actual talent
    every western AAA publisher the last 5-10 years

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      start seeing woke shit on social media
      >>oh boy, woke shit is popular, we need that in our games
      You misunderstand the origins of 'wokeshit' and how (why) it was initially popularized by corporations.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Owners transitioned to a business as usual growth model.
    >Original artists and designers left or fell out of love with their own creation
    >Accepted acquisition
    >Parent company demands higher budgets so franchises become popular brands
    >Hire Full Sail/College graduate artists to become new lead designers and animators and employ "safe" and non-offensive or gritty designs so it's easier to consume.
    >end game capitalism

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blizzard North died, so all their talent died.

    Blizzard really was only Diablo and Diablo 2/LoD. Everything since has sucked.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there anyone here who trades in Blizzard stocks or knows anything about stocks in generell?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah.
      Buy low sell high.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good, mybe you can answer me few questions, i am new in this area.

        1. In the Earnings Call Q&A, anyone can ask a question? Because I noticed that only analysts are present who ask questions?

        2. If I buy a share, what advantages I you have from the company or, to put it another way, are there certain advantages from the company as a share buyer?

        3. Is it possible to form a more direct “influencer or business partnership” with such AAA companies, getting involved with and supporting specific projects within the company?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        And, can you give me your opinion?

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They took Blackrock money. You can read their mission statement on their web page. Everything that is bad that happens in most of the world's corporate scenes can be traced back in some fahsion to them if you follow the money. If you see a company that used to be good but suddenly became shit, check the Blackrock investment reports and how much money that company had received from them. It's like eldritch knowledge, once you see it, you will no longer be able to unsee it whenever you come across it in all the other places of existence.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      how do i check these investments and why do they keep taking it?

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    they got sold to activision. why would they agree to that? was it shareholders?

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mentally ill trannies killed the company, time to move on

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes I ponder things like wondering how many hours my friends and I have heard this song throughout our life, and I've come to the conclusion that it must be a tremendously staggering amount. Or any of the SC/Diablo OST.
      It still invokes the same feelings it did when I heard it so many years ago.

      t. Starcraft64gay

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only Broodwar & StarCraft were good. What went wrong? They got too much money. Same story as always.

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