what went wrong?

what went wrong?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Came too late and was abandoned after Diablo Immortal tanked their stocks.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me personally I didnt think it was bad but I wasnt a fan of how they tried to make the games go by quicker by having everyone share exp and not have to go back regularly to buy items. That and the games felt more in line with pve then pvp to me with the objectives you get to help you push the bases instead of doing on your own. I was pretty heavy into League at the time and I liked how it used to be a slower ramp up of power when the games used to be longer.

    In the end it just wasnt a game I was willing to stop playing League for even though I thought it was a little fun to play on a side from time to time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they tried to compete with league by making HotS an exact copy of LoL would they have won out? I doubt it.
      So its better they tried something different. Maybe it is a bit casual for hardcore Lol/Dota players but its a good inbetween forthose who don't have 3 years Moba experience

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of it's ideas are novel but quite a few of the "more boring" moba mechanics they rejected led to a game where what you do until the 11th hour barely matters

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sheeeit no idea. to me almost every hero new and old was pretty uninspired. is hogger still their newest hero?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >to me almost every hero new and old was pretty uninspired
      the game was soulless, if you will

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hots heroes old and uninspired
      >abathur, cho'gall and deathwing are old and uninspired

      cmon man. the game had millions of flaws but hero design certainly wasn't one of them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        alright i might've worded it too harshly. i stopped right before mephisto came out and his kit was super lame. but barely any heroes kit surprised me much. can't hate on cho'gall though

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    blizzard

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I miss it, solely for Alarak hardcore snowballing and killing whole teams by myself with him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based. mine was tychus

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based. mine was tychus

      funni axe man is the best character in any moba, perhaps video games in general

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        super cool he made it into anything blizzard. i remember him being a real fucking nuisance

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        His second ultimate was the best showcase of the ragdoll system, just sending people to the stratosphere was the best

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Chromie's Sand Trap ult was really good for that too. Seeing ragdoll's slowly and gently spin around was that good shit.

          Man ragdolls are funny I should play more TF2.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!
      I HAVE TO BELIEVE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SOLO CARRY IN HOTS NOOOOOOOOO

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    team based game in a genre filled with lone wolf ego maniacs. also no support from blizzard outside of forcing it to be esports shit which ironically killed interest in it faster.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    overwatch characters unironically
    they decided to make the game into le hardcore memesports and then when it didnt work they killed the scene without putting back all the fun mechanics they removed and made it sound like the game was dead DAYS after blizzcon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i still think ita funny how every overwatch character was OP. they turned hots into an advertisement for their other game. tracer was even in for months before OW even released

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tracer was even in for months before OW even released
        nah they got in after overwatch was a thing

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          youre wrong. she was in before overwatch released. look it up.

          lucio and zarya werent that bad but everything else was giga cancer
          I still dont get how mei got in but not orisa

          lucio was THE support to pick for the longest time because of his free heals and mobility. zarya wasnt super by herself but her gravity well ult or whatever it was called was a game maker.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >youre wrong. she was in before overwatch released. look it up.
            yeah holy shit you're right. wtf

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        lucio and zarya werent that bad but everything else was giga cancer
        I still dont get how mei got in but not orisa

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        youre wrong. she was in before overwatch released. look it up.
        [...]
        lucio was THE support to pick for the longest time because of his free heals and mobility. zarya wasnt super by herself but her gravity well ult or whatever it was called was a game maker.

        Wait a company used a perfect tool, a hero brawler, to advertise their new game with that game's mascot? What point are you trying to make by pointing out an obvious crossmarketing play?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arrived late to the MOBA scene
    Tried to make it into an esport

    Those are the main two things

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Art team carrying

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rocky start. It's in a good place now, if people would just give it another chance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's in a good place now,

      Bro I enjoy the game and play it every few days with friends, but the game is in anything but a good place, it's literally in maintenance mode.

      The only hope the game has is if Microsoft put Mamster Chef and Minecraft Steve in after they buy Blizzard.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        By "in a good place" I mean that the map-pool and hero balance is acceptable.
        Compared to how it launched, it has come a long way.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    too based for the rest of the company

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      HoTS devs were the last bastion of coom left in Blizzard. Even when the rest of the company was going woke they were putting in actual fucking semen demons like Whitemane

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/allstars_gamepedia/images/d/dd/WhitemaneBase_Pissed08.ogg

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    heroes 2.0 basically let people earn everything without spending money

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it got too simplified/team focused, at some point there are diminishing returns and game becomes too frustrating to play when theres not enough skill expression for individual player to keep his fantasy of carrying the team.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i enjoyed the constant team fights in this game a lot

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked hots more than other mobas despite its very simplistic dumbed down nature specifically because of that. It's nice just to play a pvp game and focus on fighting the enemy dudes instead of last hitting and farming for 20 minutes before the actual fighting starts.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >actiblizz launcher
    >getting characters was slow
    >locking characters before knowing the map

    Gameplay it was nice, I think it was always fairly clear what was going on. No items meant you were focused on your skills and the talent system was good enough to be stolen by dota.
    Liked how some heroes were going for their own thing, ragnaos could merge with towers, abathur existed to bolster waves and clone heroes, murky was half a character but could respawn wherever its egg was hidden. Cho-gall being a full co-op character that 2 people controlled and even merged their names was is great.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      shame dota didnt replace items with skills entirely
      +25 damage is boring as fuck

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      characters was slow

      oh i forgot about this one of the reason quit this shitty game, blizzard is so unbelievably greedy that it made riot look like charity, the amount of grind you needed to unlock 10k gold hero was in months meanwhile and the simple design meant you got bored after few games, in contrast i could easily unlock multiple champions in the same time in league and 1 tricking them is no near a chore compared to hots .

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wasn't it that if you just paid like 60 bucks you got every hero, compared to how 60 bucks would get you basically nothing in League of Legends.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          dotn remember it being the case maybe the added it late, wouldnt change much for me anyway, i promised myself to not give a single cent to that moron company ever again after diablo3

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only good thing about this game was the siege tank hero. nothing else.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a hero brawler that some retard in suit tried to turn into moba, wasted way too much time trying to balance maps instead just making more of them, heroes balanced around top1% resulted in some heroes(Maiev being the biggest offender here) being unplayable for low rank players and must pick/ban in higher ranks which created a rift between good players and everyone else, nobody fucking wanted to play overwatch characters yet they were making more of them, then Refunded happened and a lot of old fans that still had some faith in Blizzard gave up.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unfairly overloaded kits on some characters (peak being Genji getting the ability to move while attacking, Li Ming's defining passive built into most of his kit, a dozen dashes (which reset on kill or assist) and some of the best ults in the game).
    An exp system based around simply being near things dying and never really explaining this, so most of the playerbase did not understand the game.
    Almost always clear A>B choices on leveling, taking B just makes you objectively weaker.
    Simply busted characters like the invincible map hack ghost guy.
    Inability to play a map without a retarded gimmick and simply enjoy your characters moveset.
    90% of hero releases beyond a fairly early point being DPS despite the matchmaking trying to force people to play Y and Z (meaning those people end up playing the same fucking shit every game) further fucked by the extremely poor balance further restricting said pool if you want to win.
    Just a general feeling of a lack of any focus at all, like they didn't even know what they were trying to make.
    I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.
    Their attempt at e-sports was the saddest shit; same characters every single game (Genji, Medivh, anyone with a global) and matches were effectively won by who had the most of the more OP characters.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This

      overwatch characters unironically
      they decided to make the game into le hardcore memesports and then when it didnt work they killed the scene without putting back all the fun mechanics they removed and made it sound like the game was dead DAYS after blizzcon

      HoTS was still SOVLful, and I was the best Imperius player in my region, so I had a blast.
      But although they spent all their time balancing, some characters were horrifically broken. Qhira, DVA and Whitemane are two big examples
      Some other problems are the awful casual playerbase who have no common sense or mechanical skill, the busted objective snowball on Starcraft maps and how on every map its largely a net positive to lose the first objective and get the second.

      The playerbase though, holy shit. I eventually got perma'd for flaming those cunts they were so fucking annoying and worthless. MM was fucked so if you had one or two really bad players, which was often, youd lose and there was nothing you could do since the game didn't allow for individual snowball. Since the playerbase was so small on some regions you were shoehorned into QM against 5 man discord trannies and you would just get steamrolled. No surrender was a bad move too.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do you get permad from hots? I was saying "moron" every 2 games and my account is clean as fuck

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >no surrender
        the games barely last more than 10 min and turning things around was extremely common
        just ignore your team and soak 2 lanes at once

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was too late to the party, mobafags were already too invested in their game of choice and didn't want to play it. Fun game though.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    HOTS was the best of its genre.
    >Familiar characters people love instead of original nobodies, creating anticipation for who would get added
    >Numerous unique maps resulting in far more variety of content without dumb shit like "jungle top mid" etc.
    >All abilities unlocked immediately and team-fights prevalent without 25 minutes of last-hitting
    >No clunky shop where you have to follow guides on what items to buy and no catch-up if someone gets an early gold lead (easier for all levels of play, last-hitting and items are irrelevant for high level players anyway so it doesn't make the game better by having them, it only prevents people from learning or improving)
    >Heroes are all extremely unique with shit like a siege tank, Medivh turning into a bird, Cho'gall being two heroes, Ragnaros becoming a map objective, Deathwing basically being a raid boss, etc.
    >Every hero has two ultimates, along with numerous optional talents resulting in far more abilities and build variety
    >Map objectives speed up games so they aren't hour-long slogs that end after one team fight

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blizzard removed the dev team to work on their shitty wow expansion

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just remember every character being a sponge and it took forever to kill anything, making you feel like your spells and such did 0 damage

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    HoTS was just late and not """""""complex""""""" enough because it lacked an item shop and last hitting. Also they tried to force it into an esport which nobody cared for.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >late

      no it was just not good enough, plenty of people who played other moba tried it and went back to league or dota cause it was straight a worse game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t lacked an item shop and last hitting
      that and talents + multiple maps was the best part
      everything else.. not so much

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not """""""complex"""""""
      this was the best part of hots
      it wasn't tryhard but also wasn't braindead babby pokemon unite tier
      too bad they didn't realize this and instead tried to push it into esports as if it was a serious league contender lol

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    all i cared about regarding this game was memeing about it with my crew and working on team fight fundamentals. couldn't care less about it since it was just a watered down moba that was hard to find very fun after 2+k hours of dota.
    >ooga booga
    >braaaap
    witch doctor was based lmao

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wild hero imbalance (overwatch heroes + OCs)
    some really shitty maps
    no carrying allowed
    mix it up with the usual moba horseshit of 90% of your teammates lacking 0 awareness and generally just being shitty people
    hero kits were quite fun so it's a shame

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no carrying allowed
      you can carry though
      just not by abusing broken characters in laning phase and being 4 items ahead because your opponent is a retard

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2.0
    >everyone gets a fancy mount+skin combo
    Nothing felt special anymore. I played Sylvanas for weeks to get the mastery skin and dark default horse. Watching it become lootbox filler with 2.0 was devastating.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Puke art style

    Too much clash between IP (sci-fi and fantasy)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      other mobas wish they had models this good

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I really dislike LoL in-game models. I mostly played Dota 2 where they don't have the highest fidelity but have a unified style.

        I did play a buch of HotS... so it did't completely turn me off, but that wasn't the high point of the game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Puke art style

      Why are you gae? You are gae.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A woman designed her btw.

        She left to work at riot

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just say random buzzwords and hope it sticks
      HotS is the only moba to actually have good graphics.
      >muh art style tho
      Same thing. Kys.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Too much clash between IP (sci-fi and fantasy)

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely nothing. HotS is the most soulful thing to come out of Blizz in a decade. The intention was to make a fun, brawler-styled ASSgayS and it was corrupted by a corporate e-sports mentality.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, I finally stopped playing it last year.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, it was a perfect specimen.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I fucking love this fucking memeslug so much even though I never played him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every quick meme game has an abamoron
      >ever time I autofill its varian

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They had revamped the game entirely a few years back which made playing feel better. It was truly the last bastion of Blizzard as the skins and champions still were very high quality and soulful. They completely abandoned it because it failed as an esport when they should have fully embraced it as a casual moba which worked best. People played hots because it was casual compared to dota or league. You had unique champs whose playstyle doesn't exist anywhere else along side dozens of cool game modes. Games lasted 20 minutes at the most and there was no item list to memorize.

    Like everything nu blizzard does, they forced it into an esport rather than embracing how casual it was and that is what truly killed the game.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    any character with multiple units was obnoxious to play because they tried so hard to simplify the controls so that people who've never played a video game before could get used to it quicker but it was just annoying past that. why the fuck do these units all have AI that you can't turn off that just keeps taking over when you leave a unit alone for more than a second???
    not to mention the amount of summoned units that were pure AI. necromancer having no control over his skeletons was criminal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is this slut trying to say?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He is mad about Lost Vikings and Rexxar not being comfortable to play and about how heroes start auto-attack nearest enemy if you left them, probably because he used standard moving button, instead of "hold the position" one.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What a dummy he is then.
          HotS has the best controls.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It couldn't decide what it wanted to be. It was pitched as a casual pick up and play take on the genre, then they started forcing an artificial esports scene despite the game being casual as fuck, the game started getting designed around that, then it became terrible at both.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ASSgayS are really lame games for bugmen and the bugmen willing to play the genre were already invested in DOTA or LoL

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Last time I played a few years ago I queued with a friend of mine and the rest of our team was mexicans. We dipped and joined another game; it was once again all mexicans. Not bothering with that shit.

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