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>An 80 even with Nintendo bonus
Does mario strikers really have that user score Is it really that bad or is just shitpost reviews?
game is total ass. My college has a Nintendo club and no one bought it.
Soccer is for Europeans with taste and Americans never loved it. Nintendo fans never really bought soccer games. Next level has always been a great studio.
What did Camelot do to deserve the fate of making half-baked Mario Sports games to fill holes in Nintendo's release schedule?
>What did Camelot do to deserve the fate of making half-baked Mario Sports games to fill holes in Nintendo's release schedule?
Wel, besides losing employees over time and a tight budget? Takahashi brothers became so creatively bankrupt they came up with the latest golden sun game that pissed off japanese and American fans alike so they went back to shovel ware.
stop simping for europeans, amerilard
>Super Mario Blitz: The League
it's fucking mario party, what did you expect?
The Nintendo bonus doesn't often apply for spin-offs.
>The Nintendo bonus doesn't often apply for spin-offs.
That's because the bonus doesn't exist and the spinoffs are simply not as good.
I like my Ninty games as much as anyone else, but some games from them don't deserve the high ratings they got.
>I like my Ninty games as much as anyone else, but some games from them don't deserve the high ratings they got.
There's always going to be games that get overrated, but there is zero evidence that Nintendo games get unfairly treated compared to any other company.
If you look at first party Nintendo switch games with 90 or above you have
These were all massive games loved by tens of millions of people, also with an absolute fuckload of content for $60. So which games are you suggesting were hugely overrated by criticis? Because I'm not seeing it.
This would only be a problem if non-nintendo games don't get high ratings they don't deserve, but plenty of such games do.
It’s not like Nintendo are forcing them to make these. Nintendo doesn’t own Camelot so there’s nothing stopping them from working with other publishers.
Mario sells better than actually good games, unfortunately.
Name recognition and branding are about all that matter for sales, so we're stuck with them making uninspired rehashed Mario minigame shlock forever, maybe for the best if you look at dark dawn.
They're in love with the "release a game unfinished and promise to update it overtime, but stop after a few months because everyone already stopped playing" model western AAAs have
>My college has a Nintendo club
god I fucking hate Americans
It's awful. The controls are weirdly convoluted, and you're forced to play with AI teammates who are deliberately retarded while the opposing team gets good AI
It does and it's about 50/50 between review bombers and genuine complains. Main one being that the game feels incomplete due to Nintendo's new love for that update schedule of their sports games. There's been more characters and stadiums added since then and it does have the same amount of modes as other Strikers games, but whether it's finished is up to you.
Ignore any of the reviews complaining about the game play though, those people are absolute shutters that don't know what they're talking about. It's the best game lay in the series by far.
went back to playing strikers on GC and i dont know wtf the fuck they did to the AI in BL but its fucked
Strikers felt like the straw that broke the camel's back for Nintendo's "finish it later" games for most people. Not sure why it took the masses 4 years to realize this model sucks ass but better late than never I guess.
>Strikers felt like the straw that broke the camel's back for Nintendo's "finish it later" games for most people.
They only do this for the Mario Sports games. They have not done this for a single other game on the switch, it's just the sports games. And since sports games are shitty it's pretty easy to avoid.
Eh... Kirby Star Allies was like this too. Although that was more due to HAL than Nintendo in that case.
Animal Crossing also did this.
>Animal Crossing also did this.
What the fuck are you talking about?
The only gameplay features added by AC in updates were diving and letting villagers visit your house, the latter being pretty much nothing. So you've got diving. That was "finishing the game"? Aside from that all the updates added was content. It sure did add a lot of content, but the game already had an absurd amount of content. In that sense the updates felt almost meaningless because the player was never going to see all the games content anyway. But I'm sure the reason they did that is because it saves them work for the next game when they can just port all that shit over.
yes you fucking moron and not to mention the other shit that was gutted and still isnt in the game
>yes you fucking moron and not to mention the other shit that was gutted and still isnt in the game
So what you're arguing is that animal crossing is an example of an unfinished game that they later finished with updates but also they didn't finish it.
It's a tactic for all of their online multiplayer games, not just the sports ones.
>every Splatoon game
>both Mario Makers
Not saying every game here has it as bad as the Mario sports games, and I don't mind as much when they do it with a new IP like Splatoon or Arms where there isn't a prior reference point. But New Horizons was missing so much compared to New Leaf, and it was just baffling how Smash launched without home run contest or stage builder. I think Nintendo wants to reap the PR benefits of a live service game without actually supporting a game for an entire generation and/or dipping into MTX, so instead they just cut out a chunk of a game's content and drip feed it over the course of a year. It's happening so frequently and in the same exact way across different devs that I'm inclined to believe it's a mandate now. They saw Splatoon 1's success and decided to slap that model onto anything they could while ignoring the reasons why it worked.
Updating a game doesn't automatically mean it was intentionally released unfinished. Sometimes updating a game is just improving an already finished product.
ARMS, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Smash and Mario Maker were all complete games at launch. They weren't ridiculously low on content, that's only the sports games. The fact you are listing Splatoon in this category is frankly embarrassing. Splatoon 3 has more content on launch than the vast majority of the switch library.
I think it's a case where the previous entries greatly outshine the newest installment
Best in the series gameplay ans animation wise, but it lacked content on release. Not an issue any more, but you can't replace a first impression.
I'm curious considering Mario Party Superstars is basically the N64 games but given a new coat of paint, how many people liked it because it was legitimately decent or if it was like "holy shit, it's not some stupid fucking car shit or some weird fucking ally dice mechanic"
MPS is fucking fantastic, easily the best game in the series. While yes it is sort of a remake, it's not really because it's "remaking" content from the entire series of games. This makes it stand ahead of even the old games, because it has the best minigames and boards from several games combined together, cutting out a lot of fat.
When I play MPS I am just blown away with every single minigame being a hit. There's so few mediocre ones, and I don't think a single outright bad game at all. And then you have the boards, Space land, Horror Land and Peach's Birthday Cake are all great. I just hope to god they eventually port over Western Land as DLC or a free update or whatever.
Nintendo clearly regards the Mario Sports games as low budget shovelware for children and families and I think they're right to see it that way. How many people are there out there who really want to play a Mario themed golf game?
If Mario Party Superstar is better then how come it still doesn't get new content while Strikers has gotten 2 updates already?
Nintendo updates shitch games when it doesnt sell or they see a huge fucking drop off and drip feed shit
they only update unfinished games
superstars is a finished game
Superstars can't be a finished game while it only has garbage boards and the best ones are missing.
The point was to get you to pay for Switch Online Premium for the Mario Party games that were actually good before it went to shit in the Gamecube era.
Fuck the point I want better boards.
Why don't people like strikers? I loved the other strikers games, never played the new one
>tfw fun arcady style golf, soccer, and other sports games are now dead
I honestly feel like these types of games (genre/type in general) aren’t marketed well enough. I remember a time where shit like this sold like hot cakes because the marketing was solid. Now, barely anyone knows there’s a Mario soccer or golf game.
The genre died off because the officially licensed sports games became much bigger.
This happens with a lot of industries, where eventually the big dog gets so big he pushes all the competition out. There just isn't room for a soccer game to compete with Fifa in the market, and it's hard to even succeed at all.
>The genre died off because the officially licensed sports games became much bigger.
>This happens with a lot of industries, where eventually the big dog gets so big he pushes all the competition out. There just isn't room for a soccer game to compete with Fifa in the market, and it's hard to even succeed at all.
THATS THE THING THOUGH. Licensed realistic games serve a purpose and a niche, realistic sports games. We have long had “arcade” sports games (hate using that term but I don’t want to use the word “cartoony”). They exist for people to take a break from the realism shit and to have genuine fun. Most of the games that sold mad were these types of games. It wasn’t until the end of the PS2 era/beginning of the PS3 that they started to die off. EA’s best made games that were fun as hell were the arcade stuff like blitz and jam. I mean hell, even hot shots golf/everyone’s golf was amazing too. I feel like companies don’t want to take the risk anymore despite it making financial sense. Do you know how much real sports licenses and cars cost? Astronomically fucking high. We had a ex-developer here a few years back for some game/publisher that talked how bitter he was for the arcade racing genre dying off. I can’t blame the guy, why buy a license and be at the mercy of some dipshit who can pull the plug on your contract at any time?
What you're wrongly assuming is that people buying sports games are mostly doing it for the gameplay. In reality, most people buying a soccer game are buying it because they like watching soccer. So the branding is what sells the game, meaning that most customers wont go out and buy both Fifa and an arcade soccer game because the difference in genre doesn't matter to them.
>likes the OG Xbox
who the fuck is this guy? He's probably one of the 12 people who played SMT Nine and Rent a Hero No. 1
azns born in america and raised by wild street morons act exactly like this
I thought blacks hates asians the most
God I love Josh Luna edits.
Why do people care so much about the Mario Sports games?
Sports videogames fundamentally make no sense. The entire appeal of a sport is the physical aspect. Sports are all really simple and basic in how they're designed, the challenge comes from running faster, jumping higher and generally pushing your body to its limits. But you cant do that in a video game. Youre just left with simplistic basic gameplay.
>The entire appeal of a sport is the physical aspect
I see where you are coming from but if you play an arcade like sports game rather than a sports sim you might change your mind
The gameboy Color version of Mario Tennis had this really fucking cool career mode and they never brought it back.
The GBA game had it, stupid.
Let me remind you what Nintendo did to them.
Let me remind you what Nintendo did to them.
I will never not be mad that they hyped up Tennis Aces' story mode as a return to form to the RPG style. Then it came out and it was just a generic world map/level based campaign with a tacked on levelling mechanic for the rackets that felt like it made no difference at all.
All gave some. Some gave all
Make another turn based 2D game already cameloft.
Are they even capable of it now?
What is worse camelot being forced to do mario sport games or intelligent systems forced to do paper mario without oc's and miyamoto BS
>Mario tennis suHispaniciously missing because its awesome now
Golden sun 4 WHERE? Fucking WHERE Camelot you assholes!?
The idea that New Horizons is unfinished because it doesn't have some of the features of New Leaf has to be the most retarded and uninformed opinion I see on gaming forums.
Is Mario Odyssey unfinished because it doesn't have FLUDD? Is Pikmin 3 unfinished because it doesn't have caves? Was Mario Kart 8 unfinished because it doesn't have a single player mode?
Sequels are not mandated to carry over every single feature from their predecessors. New Horizons replaced some of the content collection based features from New Leaf with customization features. This is what sequels do, they take the previous game and change it.
And like many sequels it's just a shittier game.
For some reason I remember that the Mario Wii football game was so hard that the AI mogged me every time.
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