What's the skill to RNG bullshit like in this game?

What's the skill to RNG bullshit like in this game?

In the Binding of Isaac, you can pretty much win any run with enough skill. This seems a lot more swingy.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >you can pretty much win any run with enough skill
    no you can't lol

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes you can. The game gives you tons of things such as secret rooms, sac rooms, powerful cards like the reverse tarots. Tons and tons of stuff to minmax a run.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the game gives you a lot of rng
        rng is not skill

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Minmaxing a game like Isaac is skill. If not, games like Hearthstone and Slay the Spire have 0 skill.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >poker takes no skill
          you have to take your chances, risk vs reward

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >secret rooms
        with mostly red chests that can pay out with bombs
        >secret rooms
        likewise, chance to get angel item/teleport or nothing
        >reverse tarots
        rarely show up and when they do it's the mostly situational timed cards
        RNG is a big part of this game, no need to lie about it, it's still a great game

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >likewise, chance to get angel item/teleport or nothing
          Guaranteed 30 coins or 7 soul hearts, both of which are strong.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >In the Binding of Isaac, you can pretty much win any run with enough skill.
    lol

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Same as in any game? You pick correct plays among multiple available to you at any given moment.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if someone can consistently win the game more than you over a large enough sample size, skill is involved
    would doubt any Ganker shitposters could top an 80% winrate on any character

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >would doubt any Ganker shitposters could top an 80% winrate on any character
      as long as I am going basic paths with a non-gimmicky character, I think I could easily get a 80% winrate

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Once you understand the game you should win more runs than you lose, at least on the base difficulty.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    skilled players are able to mitigate rng and guarantee success. Most of the skill involved is the learned curve. discovering synergies and learning enemy patterns. resource management. being optimal in your play.
    Its a card game so you can never remove the rng element but if youre good youll be able to win most of the time up until high ascension

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    in slay the spire you need a minimum amount of experience/knowledge to beat the third boss, but luck to beat the heart

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i 1st tried the 3rd boss

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't SInvicta on like his billionth win in a row in Binding of Isaac? you can basically win every run with skill

    >but what about that one time he quit or something
    alright his 700th run in a row without losing

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sinvicta was caught cheating his streak.
      https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/lkkuae/sinvicta_cheating_video_with_audio/

      If they don't play on twitch or something, it's meaningless. He just doesn't upload when he loses.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        alright there are still like a dozen other players with streaks well above 500

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        alright there are still like a dozen other players with streaks well above 500

        Isn't SInvicta on like his billionth win in a row in Binding of Isaac? you can basically win every run with skill

        >but what about that one time he quit or something
        alright his 700th run in a row without losing

        jesus christ who gives a frick you massive homosexuals.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          ?????????????? refer to

          >you can pretty much win any run with enough skill
          no you can't lol

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Alright, bros. How do I stop dying at the third boss? He dies every single time, but it won't let me progress for whatever reason. I swear I am missing something so obvious.
    Also, does the game ever get any harder outside of potential future boss battles or is it always just comfy mindless stacking bonuses against enemies who rarely ever stand a chance?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      are you talking about how to get to the heart?
      beat the final boss with every character but watcher, then you unlock keys that you get from chests, fire, and a special burning elite. get all 3 and you progress to act 4 after beating the act 3 boss.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        3rd boss is USUALLY the end. You always "die" and restart a new run.

        If you want to fight an optional 4th boss, you need to collect the 3 colored israeliteel things. You still "die" after that boss.

        The Heart thing, yeah. It always teases you when you win, but I never figured out how to go further than that presumably because I'm moronic.

        >You still "die" after that boss.
        That's sad to hear. I guess I'll just beat the Heart once and then find another rogue-lite card game or whatever the genre is called, since it doesn't seem like this one changes that much.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          There's also ascension levels which add an extra challenge.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I noticed, also custom games. It just doesn't feel like the general builds change that much, too pigeonholed. Unless you use that unlocking cards from other classes thing, which still doesn't really solve the issue of the enemies being simple.
            Don't get me wrong, it's a great game. First time trying an infinite run I ended up putting it down 6 hours later when I realized I couldn't die anymore, good shit. I think I'm just done with it personally.

            >That's sad to hear. I guess I'll just beat the Heart once and then find another rogue-lite card game or whatever the genre is called, since it doesn't seem like this one changes that much.
            It is not true though??? You get an ending after you kill the Heart. You don't die.
            Also, play Downfall. It is REALLY good and is essentially a free expansion to the game with pretty much double the content (7 fricking characters and all new bosses)

            I don't care about my character dying in the storyline, I'm just sad that I've experienced most of the content already and that beating it doesn't unlock more.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >That's sad to hear. I guess I'll just beat the Heart once and then find another rogue-lite card game or whatever the genre is called, since it doesn't seem like this one changes that much.
          It is not true though??? You get an ending after you kill the Heart. You don't die.
          Also, play Downfall. It is REALLY good and is essentially a free expansion to the game with pretty much double the content (7 fricking characters and all new bosses)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      3rd boss is USUALLY the end. You always "die" and restart a new run.

      If you want to fight an optional 4th boss, you need to collect the 3 colored israeliteel things. You still "die" after that boss.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you just need to have the heart of the cards

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