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What's your favorite Kirby ability?
For me it's
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scoops scoops hagaan dazs
That's so pringles
oh he got the poyo sentinel
yoithink of dreamland knicks
what does sexo mean?
I'm a yo-yo fan myself
Forgotten Land gonna say Morpho Sword or Dedede Hammer. Way too much fun.
Prior to that.
Mecha is now my all time favorite. It's so good, but before it was added...maybe beetle/throw or Yo-yo, or Squeak Squad Magic....more one time uses need to be fully developed.
>sleep is still just a fuck you despite kirby battle royale giving it a real move set
sleep is HP restoration what the fuck do you mean
it's super good
Hal isn't just going to add in 2 abilities randomly to a remake and not reuse them for something bigger
I figure it was general testing for the next 3d game.
Mecha can be easily made as a Jet evolution.
Sand is a fabulous base ability to expand on.
I'd want Mecha to have evolutions. I want Kirby Gundam
I’d rather have more abilities in general than keep the evolution system. It was a neat gimmick but doesn’t need to stay.
That's fair. I like the evolutions so I hope they stay. If they do focus on more general abilities instead, I wouldn't complain
Would be interesting certainly. But mecha feels more end of line by FW design.
Guess we'll see though.
How is the remake anyway? Not a fan of the new art style but I remember the original being pretty fun
I think it's fun. I was put off by the artstyle as well, but I eventually got over it. Mecha and Sand are basically broken. Obtaining the gears are easier, and being able to bring items into levels makes it far easier.
It's RTDL but with more content so it's great by default, outlines would have been more appreciated in Star Allies though since some bosses make it hard to keep track of yourself with all the shit happening at once
>not reuse them for something bigger
>mfw Magolor Soul Phase 2
BULLSHIT. THAT'S BULLSHIT!
Why did HE get them as supers not not us? The FUCK?! I'M MAD! MAD ABOUT garden gnome EGGS!
who /ayy/ here?
Do zoomers even know what punk is?
Ninja. Always ninja.
Plasma, also KSS is peak Kriby, it only went down from there.
Robobot is better than Super Star.
ufo/plasma yoyo is also cool
anyone else have a trash/defunct ability as their favorite?
cupid was honestly really good in squeak squad.
No idea why they killed it with archer. It'd serve the same role plus FLY.
So much better.
>drill kills animal
WHYYYYYYYYY! IT WAS CUTE!
Not in anything prior to FL anon. Go use it in Dreamland dx, Robobot, triple delux, or super star.
It doesn't regen health in those games.
So wrong it hurts.
Shut up sakurai.
>can't get super abilities + evolutions
gay ass earth.
I need Throw > Suplex > Wrestler
played all those, somehow gaslit myself that sleep was HP restoration even back then
it just makes sense ok
I thought it was as well, but no. It's alright anon.
Hi Jump is a neat idea just hard to make good use of. RtD did it well enough.
>We will never see Ball aagain
Sleep restored health in Squeak Squad, but only if you found its upgrade scroll.
Missile will always be GOAT
Love the helper design
Love the effects
Hate the new hat for it
Agreed, palette swap beam was so much better.
it's "chesuto" you retard
in sakurai's voice, even
You can bring one back to be expanded upon for the next game
>64's combo abilities
>RtDL's super abilities
>PR's Robobot armor
>FL's upgraded abilities
combo abilities easy, but if I had to pick one that could actually happen I would say robobot armor
What would happen if Kirby got Mecha and then got into the Robobot?
ever watch guren laggen?
combos how is this even debatable coolest shit ever in a kirbo game
Helpers. Star Allies didn’t do it right.
FL's Upgrades, except there isn't meant to be an outright superior upgrade and you can toggle on the classic hat even when upgraded. More upgrades that use more inputs to fit in more moves like Morpho Sword of course, but only some.
Combo abilities would either necessitate a return to the "one button" format of movelists or a significant cut in the number of abilities, and I'm not really happy with either (the latter point in particular was my least favorite aspect of Forgotten Land even if it as understandable).
I'd have to go with Upgraded abilities, but largely on the caveat that they come with a general moveset complexity bump from Forgotten Lands' set.
>I'd have to go with Upgraded abilities, but largely on the caveat that they come with a general moveset complexity bump from Forgotten Lands' set.
I'd assume that this will happen. Most of that dev time for FL was getting 3D just right and getting those dozen abilities working properly within it. The next mainline game (I'd assume 2025) will probably expand on them and throw in a handful more since they don't need to reinvent the core gameplay this time.
Ok, but imagine, all at once. Dragon Fire Ultra Morpho Knight Sword mode Robobot
low gameplay depth given how much resources it would take to flesh out each one, but fun finding out what all the combinations do
luster dies down soon after you do so though, and all you're left with is a huge breadth of abilities but no depth except like one or two, and none of the level design really complements the abilities
>RtDL's super abilities
lbrainless cutscenes that are only cool the first time, irritating the successive times
>PR's Robobot Armor
pretty much just the modern day animal friend, you essentially have two alternate movesets between (select) abilities, but this time it's more than one move
>FL's upgraded abilities
honestly? I didn't mind FL's small selection of abilities because while they tended to be shallower than the typical 2D abilities, the few moves they had had a good amount of depth (Needle was insane for example), and the game really tested your mastery of them, particularly in the treasure roads
and you get this sense that your abilities get STRONGER throughout the game, as if you're leveling them up, it's a very satisfying progression
my favorite gimmick
not listed, but
also kinda glorified cutscenes but at least there is still a semblance of activity
>SA's friend shapes (whatever they're called)/helper spam
helpers did the game or its level designs no favors, and the friend shapes weren't much more than cutscenes at points
and here's MY idea for a new gimmick:
basically you get like three abilities you can rotate between and go between instantly, no delay between them
would open up a TON of creativity in picking and choosing what abilities you'd want to keep around, and having your favorites on reserve
I would also like to see Magolor Epilogue's combo system in the main game, rewarding the player for chaining between enemies and avoiding damage. how it would reward you I wouldn't know (more damage, perhaps?), but it would help Hispanice up the combat a ton
>better than super abilities
My god this man as no brain! Quick send him to be researched to find how he functions.
Super Abilities are "click button, watch shit die"
Hypernova requires one additional braincell. I didn't say it was good either
Super abilities are at least interesting and don't kill the pacing and you can just skip them if wanted.
Hypernova is the WORST fucking gimmick by dragging everything to a halt, being absurdly slow and its sections unavoidable.
We still need a mace/morning star ability.
I always wanted an Axe ability. For all the weapons Kirby has, I'm surprised they haven't done that one yet.
especially since axe knight was one of meta knights original followers
>blade knight is just absolutely forgotten now
>blade knight is just absolutely forgotten now
I think you got Blade Knight and Sword Knight mixed up, anon
I did yes I apologize. It's still disgraceful how he was cast aside.
both are pretty lame honestly
>I would also like to see Magolor Epilogue's combo system in the main game,
Kirby should embrace cuhrayze.
Imagine getting ranked at the end of each level based on time, damage and combo.
sounds very antikirby.
Unless its an extramode/post game thing.
Kirby is a relaxed light hearted game.
Don't taint it.
Parasol is cute but nothing stellar.
>Coulda got a dlc for Forgotten Land
>Kirby brings Elifis back to Pop Star
>Daroach or other villian took over while he, King Dedede, and Meta Knight were gone
>You need to rebuild Cappy Town (close to anime version) and save cappies
>adds Throw (to suplex to wrestler), wing (to hard/heavy wing, to dyna wing), and stone ( to boulder to metal?)
HAL. WHY?! ITS SO OBVIOUS
I wouldn't mind a one time spinoff combo action Kirby game. A game to truly feel the power of Kirby. Forgotten land already has witch time, so I don't see why not.
Pitch me the villian of your curazeeee combo Kirby game.
>Necrodeus tries to kill Kirby but only maakes ten tiny Kirbies
>Drawcia and claycia (or rainbow curse villians) make the world paint/clay
>the yarn guy
Can you top these cunts?
What's his reasoning to take on the Pink Demon?
Discitese. A scholarly imp that converts Dreamland into a giant library. He captured the creatures of dreamland into his living encyclopedia to further his studies and learning. The game would task Kirby with climbing a giant bookcase, with each shelf being a different world, and each book being a different level. The overall style of the game would be a pop up book. You fight with pure physical force because that's the antithesis of brains
Blowout Blast is entirely combo-based, but it also doesn’t have abilities.
It's funny to see how much DNA of a really quality hardcore action game is hidden away in the past 15 years of Kirby games, mostly in boss rushes. I have joked in the past that Kumazaki (or whoever is doing the game design in all of mainline under him) really wants to let loose on a new IP, and Magolor Epilogue is basically that being confirmed to me. It's so easy to get long combo strings once you're upgraded, and you don't even have his full movelist from Star Allies at that point.
If Hal wanted to do a new IP they just would, like with BoxBoy or Part Time UFO.
They have the creative freedom to do whatever.
Upgrading abilities has a lot of potential and seems reasonable to achieve. Squeak Squad already did it at a smaller scale, and it was really neat to have copy abilities all have unlockable new powers or damage buffs later on.
Combo abilities are easily the coolest idea there, but it's kind of improbable to make each ability have a fleshed out moveset.
Would be neat to see how some of the weapon/class abilities mix together, like sword/ninja = samurai , beam/fighter = dbz laser shit, sword/spear = Naginata
Suplex and Bettle.
tornado was broken, fully invincible for like 3 whole seconds, attack ends, hit it again
Fighter CHADs, [email protected]?
Sword and Hammer
kirby is a good boy he doesn't sex
>he doesn't know
should have said "king dededick"
Always a fan of hi jump even though it was niche
Cutter may be pretty damn basic, but it's peak comfy for me
Also Hammer is pretty based too, but honestly everyone like Hammer, so uh, yeah
Hammer was my number one fave as a kid but looking at it now it probably was because it's fucking broken lol. Now I'm more of a Jet guy.
>anime used water first
>even made kirby fully water
>RtD at least uses the exact same crown
>STILL no Top or Staff (or whatever the gold kirby thing was)
WHY?! WILL YO-YO TURN TO TOP?! I DEMAND ANSWERS!
>Stone >Metal >Staff
Staff was in Star Allies
I was always very fond of ball and laser as a kid. Now my favorite probably is the dragon fire from FL or the mic mech from robobot
Hard to pick one
Cleaning is so cute. I hope it returns in future games.
Love spamming shit with Bell and the invincible shield.
Circus is gimmicky but fun.
Mirror is probably peak to me but since people have already mentioned that I'm gonna go with Bubble.
I just think it's neat.
Bubble was pretty good despite being a farm essence/food to hoard ability.
Would love to see more of it.
Not like it was in the anime.
Go watch that scene again.
As a kid it was probably Wheel. But these days it's a tossup between Suplex, Beetle, Spear, Spider, & Mecha. Can't wait to see any of them in 3D context after how good FL made pretty standard staple abilities.
Thanks now I cant unsee that, asshole.
What are some concepts for abilities that you think could have potential?
Call me basic as fuck but sword. It's simple and effective. Conceptually I like ESP but they gave it the most boring and barebones moveset possible. There's so much they could have did with psychic powers.
Nah sword is a good one.
Every game makes good use of it to display the new gimmick tool.
Shock sword in SS is fucking hilarious.
Ultra swod is neat.
Mopho sword is glorious.
Plus in general just solid with decent i-frames but rarely completely busted.
UFO, followed by Hammer, Sword, Animal, and Meteor
i love beam, it's just fun 🙂
I really liked Beam when it was its own thing in KA, and you could reflect it off angled surfaces for trick shots and hitting secrets. After they rolled it into Waddle Dildo's energy lash thing it was way less cool and useful.
that's laser you idiot. also no idea wat the second half means.
>nobody has said parasol
parasolbros are a dying breed
I see you fellow parasol user, I always love using it to against Meta Knight. Nothing like beating a sword using borb with it.
It didn't even occur to me that it wasn't in FL and I'm shocked it isn't
Parasolbro reporting in
i like ice for its running animation in each game
based aesthetics loving anon.
Hopefully we get a skater ability some day.
Paint getting roller skates in the anime but only being a one use in games IS SHIT!
I dedicate killing this thread to
Canvas curse line rider Kirby.
You aren't forgotten.
Love star allies
I've been enjoying the Ice ability in Nightmare in Dreamland, when hit with it enemies freeze into a block and can be sent flying to hit other enemies with.
>says he is using ice
But yes that is how ice/freeze tend to function anon.
They're very similar but yeah I meant Freeze.
it's like fire and burning in that game.
They later merged into one singular ability later on.
Very odd choice frankly but whatever, both sword andhammer have running attacks, burning could have been that for fire and freeze for ice.
It's a weird timeline thing. In early games, Ice/Freeze, Burning/Fire, and Beam/Laser were separate. But then in SSU they got paired up.
The GBA games were based on pre-SSU mechanics, so we had modern games where the powers were separate. But then the more recent Kirby games seem to based on SSU mechanics rather than the old Dreamland mechanics.
In what way is beam paired with laser exactly?
Even charged beam orbs don't ricohett...least from memory.
Plus NiDL was just KA remade so it made sense to be that way. Amazing Mirror though was more Super Star based I think.
Still odd that KA gave sword and hammer running attacks but kept fire and burning separate at minimum.
mb, it was spark/laser that got paired up
Or did you mean Spark/Plasma?
Because Plasma used to be the jiggle/spin.wiggle to make a big electro shot.
While spark was just the shock sphere move.
Pretty sure Laser has been completely left in the past.
The fuckin PLEX
I still can't believe it was in Star Allies.
I like when he succ up a black guy and become bbc kirby lol. Jk my fave is fire Kirby
Beetle of course
think we'll ever get a time wizard ability so the clock guy mini boss can return?
beat the true arena using the boss healthbar melter, sand. it's cool and tough, and it does everything. the charged fist is so strong and i love building castles on motherfuckers
You mean the
I'm a bitch and need to hide from everything
Be a real man and use mecha.
Which spark attacks bounce off surfaces?
Kirby can just gulp down some air and fly. It's not even a special move.
I admittedly haven't played anything (2D) past Kirby's Anniversary Collection. But it's probably Wing because I used it to make the Magolor race my little prison bitch.
And Smash just for the novelty.
Any ability that gives alternate (faster and better) modes of flying are great.
Wing. Beetle. Cupid. Jet. Mecha. Etc. Love it.
wing's great but i feel i never get used to the full extent of the ability for some reason
In Super Star?
Such a good ability