Whats your unpopular or controversial?

What’s your unpopular or controversial /vp/ opinion?

I’ll start. I actually like Leon. He’s just a fun character, his battle theme (along with the GL theme) helps immerse you into a world where Pokémon battles really are a spectator sport and to be enjoyed by all. I think SWSH could’ve been the best games in the series if they weren’t thrown under the bus for SV (testing open world + introducing Dexit so a game that actually “needs it” won’t take as hard as a fall), plus I actually just enjoyed the atmosphere of SWSH which was let down by its gameplay and story.

Hell, I even like that he has a Charizard. It perfectly fits him - he’s an older, more experienced character who’s extremely popular. A Gen 1 starter compared to your Gen 8 starter or the Gen 8 starter he takes under his own wing and still makes a powerhouse is an amazing juxtaposition. If I could change anything, I wish the Kanto starter he used changed depending on your starter - this would include Hop picking the starter strong against yours with Leon taking the weaker one.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Even-numbered gens are all good. Odd numbered gens are all dogshit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      incorrect
      gens 1 - 4 good
      gens 5 - 9 bad (very bad)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Claiming gen 3 is good but gen 5 is bad
        moron

        Even-numbered gens are all good. Odd numbered gens are all dogshit.

        >Claiming gens 6 and 8 are good while 5 7 and 1 were bad
        moron

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ALLISTER
    SHOULD
    BE
    RAPED

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Broadcast tv is dead. Long live streaming anime.

    Make all pokemon animes straight to streaming

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anthro art is superior

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Every single person on this board is a homosexual except me because i'm based

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry covid removed your sense of taste, OP.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Alola is one of the best regions. The environments, the pokemon distribution, the characters are all top tier. If you turn off the exp share, the Alola games are some of the most balanced difficulty-wise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I've only played base Moon once, would it worth replaying? Or should I pirate USUM instead?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I think USUM are noticeably better. You have an expanded pokedex, some tougher battles and exploring the Ultra Beasts' home worlds.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      homie USUM is already the hardest base game with EXP share, without it it's basically rom hack tier.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      a based take, i thought gen 7 did a lot of things right and was a good showcase of what the 3ds had to offer, especially following xy and oras. i loved the atmosphere and thoroughly enjoyed the rotom camera shit
      festival plaza kinda sucked but everything else was cool and usum was a solid upgrade. box legends and necrozma+ all forms and ultra beasts in general are all cool as frick. light that burns the sky is one of the best things to ever exist in this series

      https://i.imgur.com/apKdtmb.png

      What’s your unpopular or controversial /vp/ opinion?

      I’ll start. I actually like Leon. He’s just a fun character, his battle theme (along with the GL theme) helps immerse you into a world where Pokémon battles really are a spectator sport and to be enjoyed by all. I think SWSH could’ve been the best games in the series if they weren’t thrown under the bus for SV (testing open world + introducing Dexit so a game that actually “needs it” won’t take as hard as a fall), plus I actually just enjoyed the atmosphere of SWSH which was let down by its gameplay and story.

      Hell, I even like that he has a Charizard. It perfectly fits him - he’s an older, more experienced character who’s extremely popular. A Gen 1 starter compared to your Gen 8 starter or the Gen 8 starter he takes under his own wing and still makes a powerhouse is an amazing juxtaposition. If I could change anything, I wish the Kanto starter he used changed depending on your starter - this would include Hop picking the starter strong against yours with Leon taking the weaker one.

      oshawott line is one of the best designed families in the pokedex
      golett line looks kinda goofy and is wasted potential

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like Leon too. It's neat that he's basically what grown-up Red is, with Sonia being grown-up Blue. One went the battler path and reigns as champion while the other went the research path and becomes professor.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      .... It sounds like you're just a fan of blue and red

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know where you'd get "just" from. I like Red and Blue, but I'm explaining that the parallelism is one way it makes my admiration for Leon and Sonia more than surface level.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Always on EXP Share is a good concept because it allows the designers to build fights around your entire team being a certain level range rather than building it around it being off and then making it being on an easy mode by association, encouraging the "cheese everything with your overleveled starter and item spam" mindset that's permeated the series since the start. The problem is the execution of it, SwSh was still piss easy due to the Pokemon signature of bad movesets+shit AI and it distributing EVs to everyone on the team still was shit for getting mons used during the campaign battle-ready. Here's my proposed fixes
    1.
    >Just build some good movesets and bump up the AI intelligence you dumbasses. You now have the perfect excuse to balance the challenge like a traditional JRPG would and you're not taking it.
    2.
    >Teammates gaining EVs by default is now gone. The extra EVs training gear items now enable a mon to gain EVs even when not participating in battle on top of their already existing value bonus effect

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly just wish it wasn't combined with getting EXP for catching mons.
      I don't want to get overleveled because I went on a catching spree.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The champion themes for Gen 7 and Gen 8 were...maybe not bad, but very unmemorable. Sticking a few leitmotifs in there is cool but I don't like the base of the entire track being one of the Pokemon themes. I would really prefer they have a specific theme for each Champion.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like a lot of nu-pokemon designs, Gen 6 is still the low point for me.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sugimori is a hack. Turner and Ariga are the best artists Pokemon has ever had.
    The first two generations were just as dogshit as XY-present.
    Pokemania was the worst thing that ever happened to Pokemon.
    Anyone who still watches the anime past age 10 is mentally ill.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Alola games were relatively good with interesting ideas that should've been carried on and expanded on. Boss mons with gimmicks you don't get, like Totems, and UBs having less obvious typings coupled with Beast Boost made for relatively interesting battles. Being the muscle for someone else's story like in a western was fine for me, I wonder if it would've been better received had it been new people needing you to fight their battles for them rather than Lillie every time.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This Pokémon is kino and I'm tired of pretending it's not

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I use him a lot in Unite, I like Duraludon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      fellow duraludon enthusiast
      it's probably my favorite steel type and favorite galar mon

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I know its cool to hate on the new Gen/new things, but I dont hate Gen 8 like most people. It certainly has its flaws, but I still enjoyed it.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like Leon too. I hated him at first for the Charizard shilling but he grew on me pretty fast to my surprise. I wish he had an ace from Gen 8 but it isn't as big of a deal as I thought it would be. He is a great concept of a character, for pokemon, and a lot of fun. I don't get how people can hate him if they played the games.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >swsh
    >atmosphere
    Also his gen 1 mon could have been anything but ch-ch-charizard.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I actually liked Team Flare as a group of villains. They are perhaps the most sinister group to me, because they have all the money and influence they could want yet choose to commit the most heinous of crimes imaginable. Its the only group that I might call evil. Team Rocket is classic, but turned into comedy in the very next game. Team Magma/Aqua weren't evil but sort of silly and misguided. Team Galactic is epic, but rewriting the universe is less...Personal? Than Team Flare, a bunch of rich people, deciding who lives and who dies with the push of a button. Like if the billionaires of the world just decided to hell with the earth one day.

    Also the girls are hot.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >girls
      I think Team Flare is based loosely on Aum Shinrikyo, since it's basically a purity cult that wants to destroy a bunch of humanity to purify the world. That's kind of cool

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I actually like Leon.
    Aaaand stopped reading.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      zoom zoom

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Inteleon is one of the coolest starters.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What’s your unpopular or controversial /vp/ opinion?
    if you haven't jerk offd to a pokemon getting railed at least once, you can NOT call yourself a true pokemon fan.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like humanoid pokemon.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    unova is criminally underrated

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Leon was alright, I just hate how he was handled in the anime.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unpopular?
    I like Rhyperior and Magmortar, you don't get more unpopular than that
    Sadly Leon just sucks ass, not even just for the shilling or him being the strongest undefeated nonce, but because ingame he took away chances for you to engage with the world wich was already lackluster as frick, basing him on a sports idol just makes him come off as tacky as well, it creates a swirl of unlikeability of an annoying character in a disappointing game that was the first main game on a console souring the deal even harder

    Then there's the fricking anime, journey is just a shitshow, and Leon terrible concept only makes it worse, or should I say the anime made Leon even worse than the games, it's just bad

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How did Leon take away ways for you to interact with the world when he is the one who enables you to interact with it in the first place?

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Raboot is perhaps the best designed middle evolution, tied with Dewott & Wartortle.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wish his charizard was unique, like give him a shiny version to make him stand out from others

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love the seventh gen games and I don't understand why so many people don't. I especially don't get the guys who prefer SwSh to them.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate anthro/jobmons, literally my mom's animal, just element + animal, unsubtle or uninspired objectmons. I think I can only like 10-20% of the dex now.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DP and XY ashnime leagues were top tier.
    Hell, they were actual GymQuest leagues, this is just some random noname filler tournament.
    The ashnime stopped putting in any effort whatsoever, add to that Ash's ugly SM/PM209 redesign.
    You can tell how OLM just does this for the cash now, no passion left here.
    Champions are jobbers, they were NEVER portrayed like that. Alain was retconned to be a loser.
    >m-muh stakes! muh undefeatable champs!
    Yes, muh stakes and muh champs. I want the OG Gen1-6 artstyle and GYM-League-E4+broken as frick champions back.
    The ashnime lost it's shounen soul.
    It's an unironic KIDS SHOW now!!!
    We used to have subtle het (Ash+Misty, Ash+the girls who liked him/who he liked, Ash+Serena), subtle yuri (Dawn living at Cynthia's villa for some reason)), explicit het (May+Drew), cringekino het (Brock+Autumn and all the other girls he made a move on).
    Now it's fricking yaoi pandering with Gohtroonyshit.
    Do Japanese children even like this anymore???
    The Yajimaverse AU movies are the only decent thing still coming out of the ashnime-series.
    ...
    Guys, if you're tired of the shitty stater of the ashnime.
    I tell you.
    I beg you.
    I ASK of you.
    Please.
    Read the "Pokemon Festival of Champions" manga.
    It's the last media keeping the OG Gen1-6 ashnimekino spirit alive.
    Unironically, it's the only thing that satisfies my pokethirst at this point.
    It takes all the good things from the ashnime and enhances them into a wienertail of spicy adrenaline, you can tell the mangaka feels the vibe and what Pokemon is supposed to be about.

    Gisellebro btw

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Festival of Champions shilling
      >trying to spin his nostalgiablindndess for the formulaic slop that was Post-OS Pre-SM Ashnime into an argument for it's quality
      Well, you got me anon. An opinion so fricking terrible I just HAD to respond

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If shitskins didn't invade Europe, Leon wouldn't exist. Think about that.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Europe invaded several countries anon

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kanto and Orange are the only good Ashnime seasons. Everything else is crap.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Saying you like any pokemon game is pretty controversial here

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't feel that unpopular or controversial but I really haven't disliked any mainline Pokemon game. There are ones that are better than others for sure, but even the "worst" ones are merely fine to me. I'll probably never replay X or Sword but I enjoyed them. I feel like all mainline Pokemon games do the same certain things well enough that I could never really dislike them.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like him, just a shame he's a Poképajeet.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hau and Hop are better rivals than Blue and Silver. They have more character depth and are way more relatable and interesting. The obsession with mean rivals is moronic and makes no sense if they're just gonna be utterly one dimensional characters anyway.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly like Blue better than most friendly rivals, not because he's a "mean" rival(he's actually just another friendly rival), but because real friends banter and most of the friendly rivals barely even try that.
      Which usually has a lot to do with you being a new friend, but not always

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I've said it many times: Blue and Silver aren't even mean. Blue is a Bart Simpson expy and Silver is just emo. Either genwunners and Johturds are even more fragile than I thought, or it's a Mandela Effect situation where people are deluding themselves based on faulty childhood memories.
      "Rivals" in Pokemon are kind of a weird concept in general when the Pokemon themselves are the ones doing the fighting. It would make sense if the trainers were physically involved in the fights themselves like Masaru from Digimon Savers. But with the way Pokemon's mechanics work, the "mean rival" that casual fans keep begging for would just be a pussy who talks shit while hiding behind their pets, and it would get laughable really quickly as they keep losing.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unova deserves a full 3D remake (not chibi) that includes both the original games and the sequels, using the bw2 map with an updated story that combines both stories.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A Pokemon Game's true worth is in how hot the female characters are. Therefore SV is currently shaping up to be the worst set of games to date.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They've fricked up making proper teams for Ash starting in the Johto league. And giving his pokemon appropriate battle moments.
    Kanto and Johto established a good formula for Ash's team, he has a fire-water-grass core, Pikachu, a bird and then two or more odd ones to give him some variety. I'm cool with them breaking that trend in Journeys because he's supposed to have a more competitive champion team, but no grass type in Kalos, no water type in Alola was shit. He should have had a Gogoat or Trevenant in Kalos and an Araquanid or his own Golisopod in Alola
    Fricking Hoenn didn't even give him a sixth pokemon, without Pikachu he didn't even have a full team
    There aren't a ton of pokemon that would fit him that weren't also on the team of another character, but Grumpig could have made an interesting fit, he could have kept that one Spoink he used in the triathalon episode. Or if that's no good, a Sableye could make a good pick too
    Sinnoh was a little better, but getting rid of Aipom was stupid. If Ash needed a Buizel it should have just been him catching the Buizel instead of Dawn. Buizel also didn't seem to win a single battle after learning ice punch, should have evolved and had a chance to be useful. Torterra also didn't get a single win, which is dumb af, he even got special training from Paul's Torterra about how to effectively battle as a tank, it was dumb as frick for Ash to not use Torterra against Gastrodon. Paul shouldn't even have brought a random Gastrodon, he should have used his established powerhouses, Torterra should beat Ursaring
    And aside from Krookodile, not many of Ash's Unova pokemon got proper development
    The problem started with the Johto league, his team vs Gary wasn't good, not bringing Pikachu was ridiculous. Missing out on giving us a Pikachu vs Umbreon rematch was such a horrible decision.
    Snorlax also didn't need to be in the Harrison battle, should have been Heracross to beat Hypno and Steelix (or let Noctowl beat Hypno)

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BDSP should have gotten the ORAS treatment. Sinnoh remade with new Gigantamax pokemon, and also overhaul the league so that in addition to the elite 4 you also battle Wally and May and a few rematches with gym leaders.
    The gen 4 starters, the ace pokemon of the gym leaders and elite 4, Cyrus's Weavile, and Garchomp should all have new g-max forms.
    And it should have came out AFTER Legends Arceus so you could use Hisuian pokemon too, and some trainers rotate them onto their teams, so you can have a Roark with Hisuian Arcanine, Crasher Wake with a Basculegion, Byron with a Hisuian Goodra, Bertha with an Ursaluna, Volkner with a Hisuian Electrode, Aaron with a Kleavor, Maylene with Lilligant, Sneasler or Dedicueye, etc.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Sinnoh remade with new Gigantamax pokemon
      Dear God no, dynamax was by far the worst mess I have the disgrace of playing with, as flawed as bdsp was not having it was a good thing

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day Dynatroony.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Come try and kill me yourself, projecting moron. Not a troony and it's not even about liking dynamax, it's just a matter of making BDSP actually relevant before the new gen comes out, maybe bring in some more pokemon to the competitive scene.
        inb4 you seethe, rage, and project at me more.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think most of the gen 4 crossgen evos are downgrades, including weavile and honchkrow
    gen 6 is the most consistently good new batch of pokemon we've ever gotten, even overall great dexes like 1, 3, and 7 have lower lows

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 6 had the potential to be the greatest generation had it gotten a Z game.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked Kabu's backstory, experienced master getting into a slump and falling from the top is a favourite trope of mine. Wish there was a spinoff that let you play as a disgraced trainer climbing his way back up.

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