When did this franchise get so lame

When did this franchise get so lame

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    post-gameboy color era

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      true and soulpilled

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never, dipshit.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pokefans have no standards and bought it anyway

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know, right?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if you're going to do this at least compare counterparts: Psudeo to Psuedo, Starter to Starter, Late Game Bug/Steel type. Gen 2 would still win and you wouldn't look like a massive retard.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You know what im gonna say it, I really like Garbodor

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Garbodor is based, pretty much only bandwagoners hate it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do people actually hate Garbodor?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit.

        How can one person be so based, I refuse to believe it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          We finally had some "major" character with a Garbodor and that generated plenty of good art. Some people like Trubbish and Garbodor now, me included. They just needed a small push and some charismatic interactions to be liked, most pokemon are like that. You will end up seeing some Mr Rime fans after it gets knocked out in the anime.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No cannon deipctions of nate show him using those Pokemon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nate is unironically the best trainer design to come out of the franchise, and I don't really like gen 5 a all that much. He just looks retarded in Nu-Sugimori art.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nate is a hideous design. Ugly ass gay.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          silence boomer

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            make me you zoomer

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          says the ugly ass gay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Left is better

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        left looks comfy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Gen 2 at its absolute worst is still better than Gen 5 at its absolute best
        LMAO

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Left is still better. The designs on the right are way too busy. If it's something a kid can't sketch from memory or be made into a toy easily, it's a bad monster design.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So you must love new designs like Lechonk and Smoliv, right? They're way simpler than anything there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Eh. There's a balance to strike between simple and interesting.
            Cyclizar and Bellibolt are great. Waiting for Pawmi's evos, too.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Worst take I have ever seen

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Switch out the cuck2trainer who got molested by a hiker with BASED Hilbert and this will be fact.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >implying Hilbert is better than the GOAT Nate
          LOL

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Left is still better.
        Right looks like fucking Digimon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >still using Digimon as an insult when all new Digimon mog nu-pokemon designs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, but unironically, left is kino and right is soulless

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        left = pokemon
        right = digimon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, with Digimon there's be more belts and guns randomly scattered around.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Right is better and only contrarian retards would disagree.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care much for Hydreigon's design and Bisharp is too humanoid, but anyone saying Volcarona is a worse design than anything on the left is blinded by nostalgia.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >using muppet dragon as example of good design
        kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        hahahaha left is still better than the best of Gen V lmfao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >johto STILL better

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Volcarona is damn cool but the amount of pure soul flowing from the left side is overwhelming.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think people uniroically say gen 5 was "peak."
      It's usually gen 3 or 4.
      But nice try, I especially like that you picked the worst possible mons to represent gen 5.
      6/10 bait but i'll bump your score to 7/10 for effort.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't think people uniroically say gen 5 was "peak."
        I wish this were true

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't think people uniroically say gen 5 was "peak.
        B2W2 is the peak

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Garbodor is a good design moron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Did you have to use a toy?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They're not toys. They're extremely popular collectable that millions of people buy each year.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If he didn't Pichu would've mogged every single gen5 mon in that pic. Both Togepi and Unown already do that though so I don't know why he bothered

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Much better.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Look out Joltik there's a giant bird coming at you!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What even was the point of Baby Pokemon? It literally just had to be selling toys, right?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Merchandising but also it fit the natural theme of Johto and the breeding feature of Gen 2. But after Gen 4 Gamefreak seemed to realize the fanbase hated dex slots being wasted on cross gen baby pokemon and thankfully stopped making them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Gen 2 also started development at the peak of the Tamagotchi fad and baby Pokemon were an obvious attempt to hop on the bandwagon, like they later did with Yo-Kai Watch.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Breeding, baby pokemon, the day/night cycle, all of it was done to give gen 2 a slower atmosphere that girls and casuals could appreciate. That's also why Johto has the infamous "level curve", it's all done to make the game slower paced, something you take your time with, and give you something to do other than battle.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >give you something to do other than battle.
            I fucking wish modern Pokemon would do this.
            Gen 8's overworld designer should be shot on the spot.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Game Freak hated Johto, so they stuck them with Kanto's unwanted abortions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if you're going to do this at least compare counterparts: Psudeo to Psuedo, Starter to Starter, Late Game Bug/Steel type. Gen 2 would still win and you wouldn't look like a massive retard.

      by popular demand
      i don't know if you meant genesect, but I assume by "late-game bug/steel" you meant durant

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is a trade steel/bug like scizor

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          made one for gen 4 too. personally I think the designs still hold up (may be a little biased because garchomp is my favorite pokémon), although the gen 2 artstyle is better
          did yanmega instead of wormadam because it shares more in common with scizor, with both being late-game bug-type crossgen evos

          escavalier is probably the single most forgettable pokémon. you can't really blame me for forgetting about it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >a shitty DBZ ripoff is better
            Pokemon's art style was a soulless toriyama ripoff for the first (worst) two gens

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              and one for gen 3

              if you don't believe that traditional watercolor art has more soul than something done on a computer, i don't know what to tell you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Gen 3 still look like monsters. In fact Sugimori said gen 2 designs were too babyfied and they tried to revert it in gen 3.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Skip gen 6 and 7 because it still has cool pokemon, i double dare you to make gen 8 look cool

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I disagree and I also believe the first 2 generations diddled you because I don’t get how you can blindly hate something that much, maybe it’s a sign you are being disingenuous.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you must be new here, we've always hated genwun and acknowledged that gen 2 was a lazy cashgrab with a laughably shit level curve

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Scavalier is cool fuck you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you. Yes Durant is what I meant, though I just realized that Excavalier could work since its a trade evo like Scizor.
        This actually does a good job at highlighting the differences in design philosophy between the gen. Both side look col but I think Gen2'sseems simpler and sleeker while Gen5 errs slightly on being too overdetailed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this makes gen 5 look even worse than OP's image.

        >left side
        >simplistic but easily identifiable and appealing monsters

        >right side
        >edgy deviantart dragon
        >literal cartoon animal but lazily recolored to match its type
        >retarded overdesigned pig with horrible proportions

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gen 2 and 5 are my favorites this is a good post.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This was almost a perfect comparison. Use Escavalier instead of Durant.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        when are we getting AI img2img water colour style apes of new pokemon?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nate literally is peak you dumbass idk what to tell you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        peak at getting his back blown out by BBC

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like how the discord raiders have to pretend to like gen 2 to make any argument agsinst 5

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember making this as bait. Glad to see it still works

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    even Oddish looks cool here what the fuck

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's trying to fit into the current zeitgeist. Pokemon got lame, but just about everything else got lame as well.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    now draw the new ones in the old watercolor style.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *give em sugimori eyes*

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It all started going downhill when the games started making you the chosen one instead of just a random trainer trying to make their way in the world.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the 10 year old who singlehandedly took down the pokemon mafia is just a "random trainer"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In what way are you not? Red doesn't even get rid of Team Rocket permanently.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As soon as the company started pandering to women and making every fucking pokemon spherical
    just look at trainers after gen 5, they're all kawaii anime uguu faced with chipmunk teeth and soft round eyes meant for women

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They always pandered to women that's why we had mons like Jigglypuff and Clefairy and Pikachu. The very mascot that carries the series was given to a women designer to "make cuter". The game was always meant for everyone.

      This roundness you are noticing is based on current art and design trends and can be seen in media everywhere especially media that is child friendly.

      I noticed that water colors give even gen 8 mons shit load of soul, even charmander look like ass in new style

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I noticed that water colors give even gen 8 mons shit load of soul, even charmander look like ass in new style

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 5 kickstarted the decline of quality in the pokemon franchise

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >dog with vegita eyes
    >rat with vegita eyes
    >rock with vegita eyes
    >ball with vegita eyes
    Glad we exited the Akira Toriyama influence era.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the shape and color of ratata's and growlithe's eyes are different there. they're both angular and angry but the shape is different

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So generic Akira Toriyama eyes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          find one toriyama drawing with those eyes

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well gee.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              circle the rattata/growlithe eyes on this chart

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              circle the rattata/growlithe eyes on this chart

              4th row, third down.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >4th row, third down
                how can the 4th row be three down?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                he probably meant: fourth column, third from the top
                engrish hado prease understandu

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >BEJITABEJITABEJITABEJITABEJITABEJITA
      The score, TardkuRAT. Proclaim it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hope you get run over by a car for your shit taste.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        DBZ sucks

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Frieza's arc is peak shonen and even if you hate Dragon Ball you can't argue that Toryama's art and character design aren't amazing, especially before Z.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think Toriyama peaked with Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball was unneeded.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And you post and image with 3 of the best designs.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It started out lame, became good on the GBA, then got lame again on 3DS

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gen Z

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I-i-its just the art style I promise!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      left is better

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And this is why you don't deserve quality, you blind fag.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          seethe boomer

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            YWNBAW

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              that's rich coming from a johchud

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're right it is just the art style. I take back what said Pokemon is still great.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    boomers get the fuck out

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The minute they switched from sprites to 3D aka XY. XY was also the start of garbage gimmicks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When they decided to spend every new gen just making a temporary gimmick that won't carry over in later games instead of either reworking existing mechanics or adding something permanent to the formula. Gen 6 was the last time something new and permanent was added in fairy types and the steel type rework. The ones after have only made the gimmick their main draw that's supposed to separate them from the others.
      >Gen 7 is gen 6 with z moves
      >Gen 8 is gen 6 with dynamax
      >Gen 9 is gen 6 with terastalizing
      I think it'd be cool if they tried adding something permanent that can last. Or they can work with stuff they already have, but making them more of a focus than they might've been to other games. Like how colosseum/XD were exclusively double battles. I think they could explore games with where the other battle styles are more emphasized.

      When they started dumbing down the "monster" aspect.

      I'd say these are 3 good reasons. There's also the fact that regions these days feel like half baked theme-parks.

      I'm saying this as a guy who likes some new gen mons.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The minute they switched from sprites to 3D aka DP. DP was also the start of garbage gimmicks.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    933
    >SHITbert
    >based
    Only flaming fags like you give a shit about that Battle Subway jobber. Nice Dollar store Red cosplay btw.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gen 6

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker once again screeching. Grow up and evolve your flavor palette you fucking toddlers.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 2 was the peak.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah the peak of shit

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When Gen 5 was born

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    After gen 2

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When they decided to spend every new gen just making a temporary gimmick that won't carry over in later games instead of either reworking existing mechanics or adding something permanent to the formula. Gen 6 was the last time something new and permanent was added in fairy types and the steel type rework. The ones after have only made the gimmick their main draw that's supposed to separate them from the others.
    >Gen 7 is gen 6 with z moves
    >Gen 8 is gen 6 with dynamax
    >Gen 9 is gen 6 with terastalizing
    I think it'd be cool if they tried adding something permanent that can last. Or they can work with stuff they already have, but making them more of a focus than they might've been to other games. Like how colosseum/XD were exclusively double battles. I think they could explore games with where the other battle styles are more emphasized.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm bummed Megas are gone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I definitely think they were the coolest of the gimmicks, but they were also the hardest to implement fairly. Only a select few pokemon got megas some of the ones that did got trash megas. And I get from a production standpoint, designing hundreds of megas would be way harder than just making a few dozen z moves, dynamax, and terastalizing forms that can spread across every pokemon.

        >Gen 2
        Apricorns and Pokeball making
        >Gen 3
        Secret Bases, Contest Battles
        >Gen 4
        Underground
        >Gen 5
        PWT, Pokestar Studios, Pokémon Musical, Dream World, Difficulty modes, Seasons

        Yeah gimmicks have never existed before Gen 6.

        Do you really lack so much reading comprehension that you can't tell the difference between what are side quest gimmicks and gimmicks that are the core of the entire game?
        You could play any of those other gens, see those gimmicks once as a prerequisite for the game, and never have to touch them again if you don't want to.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Gen 2
      Apricorns and Pokeball making
      >Gen 3
      Secret Bases, Contest Battles
      >Gen 4
      Underground
      >Gen 5
      PWT, Pokestar Studios, Pokémon Musical, Dream World, Difficulty modes, Seasons

      Yeah gimmicks have never existed before Gen 6.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Battle gimmicks are literally infinitely worse.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Gen 2
          Held items, Pokemon Genders, two new types, egg moves, friendship, special split, type effectiveness changes, move tutor
          >Gen 3
          Abilities and Natures, weather, double battles
          >Gen 4
          Physical/Special Split

          Every battle gimmick from Gen 1-4 has persisted up until now. They only started cutting with Gen 6.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Gen 5 added hidden abilities and gems, that ended up being readded as Z-moves later on. While I hate gen 6-8 I cannot simply say "old good new bad", there are merits to how accessible competitive is nowadays, and how the forced exp share could be used to make rotating teams less of a slog to play. I despise megas because of distribution issues and Dynamax for being the most broken shit in singles, VGC players can have that cake and eat it if they like big mons so much. Z-moves are just better gems and that is perfectly fine.

            Franchise peaked at gen 5, took a big fall at gen 6, tried to climb in gen 7 just to be at it's lowest in gen 8. There is no way gen 9 can be a worse shit show than it's predecessor.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Franchise peaked at gen 5
              no it didn't

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When they started dumbing down the "monster" aspect.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When they removed Gorochu, Barunda, Omega, Shinjuku Jack and Danpei.
    It stopped being lame with the release of Emerald, but then reverted to lameness with XY.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Omega is too short and chubby to be cool enough to live up to his name. He needed to be taller.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Gorochu
      legitimate loss
      >Barunda
      Jigglypuff/Drifloon is better
      >Omega
      generic Gen 1 monster, we have Rhydon, Kangaskhan, and Nidoking
      >Shinjuku Jack
      I really hope this was a trainer and not a mon, he looks like he belongs in Virtua Fighter
      >Danpei
      legitimate loss

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >he looks like he belongs in Virtua Fighter
        Good eye. He's literally a reference to Jacky Bryant from Virtua Fighter.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oddish and Rattata fucking suck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *each other off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't talk shit about Rattata, you moron.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When your dad left you cause you're autistic.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gen wars are so retarded
    we all already know that there's cute, cool, badass, and bad designs on every gen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but the ratio shifted to cringe cute bait ever since XY.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But the proportions are each time lower.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why does the new trainer look so submissive? Even his pokemon look scared. Wtf is happening

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're supposed to be self-inserts, and Pokemon fans are by and large some of the most submissive cucks on the planet.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It only ever gets lame when TPC appeals to millennial nostalgia

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing your picture proves is Ken Sugimori’s OG style is based

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    where did we go so wrong bros...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >jobmons

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    around the time it got a female majority fanbase

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These images are 30 years apart. Time to accept that things change

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But I want good change, not bad change.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Much like the majority of adults stop following popular music or fashion, the designs aren’t shit, you’re just old.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the boy MCs haven't had good designs since XY. I don't know why people are acting suprised we're getting the 3rd soiboi in a row

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