Where did it all go so wrong?

Where did it all go so wrong?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they hired too many trannies and then the rannies banned everyone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did they really hand the reigns over to that community manager?

      >then the rannies banned everyone
      Moderation seemed pretty hands off when I played a few years back, though I heard they went full Final Trantasy gestapo since then

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that was years ago, I'm pretty sure they fired the guy (emphasis on "guy") who banned people for saying nezha is a trap

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when they got rid of coptering

      calling nezha a trap is time-honored tradition

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Coptering was always shit, the new system is far better.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah yeah parkour 2.0 took some of the ideas and gave them some deliberate mechanical legitimacy, I like that and I'm just nostalgic for the old shit, but it's still a hilarious lie that steve made about those "ugly momentum bugs" which are still endemic to the engine and show up every time you fall out of bounds or jump funny and end up bouncing (or want to go fast)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trannies allowing all this ass in warframe
      wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying the trannies don't want to have big voluptuous warframe butts as much as if not more than you coomers

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          true but a lot of the ass is going towards the female frames. the chud-boogie-wo(men) you so fight against would 100% be against it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >a lot of the ass is going towards the female frames
            no no I'm afraid you've misunderstood, that's exactly the point
            t. ranny

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              and you ignored the second half of my post
              t. gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry I'm nta you replied to initially not fighting anyone just butting in (see what I did ther?)

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where did it all go so wrong?
    When they moved away from randomized content and levels towards static openworld garbage.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Operators and open worlds

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      open worlds arent the problem but they could use more verticality

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Game was already an obtuse clusterfuck
    Adding open worlds completly took me out of it and I havent touched the game since

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not that complex, its just.
      >do mission
      >get item + faction points
      >level up your faction level
      >get access to new missions and rewards

      What kills it for me is that there is a daily cap so you cant get a lot of faction points and thats as gay as waiting 3 days for your warframe to be finished.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you forgot one little detail, its not fun doing any of this shit

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Making a third person shooter into a wannabe MMORPG

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They got bitter about the fact thst the community understood their own game better than the devs and then they started not taking good advice on purpose.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      zamboni was right

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        THE MOVEMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES THIS LOOSE COLLECTION OF UNRELATED GRIND-SANDBOXES GOOD

        ALSO zamboni was right lol suck it steve

        >zamboni was right lol
        QRD?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://forums.warframe.com/topic/137875-a-complete-rework-of-the-foundation-of-warframe/?ct=1673398772
          >The current Mod Card system is not a sustainable one. Meaning, you cannot continually release mods and use them as a crutch for content. The Corrupted Mods were already scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of ideas. But to think you can keep the system interesting with a flawed foundation is foolish. (To better prove this point: Ask yourself what kinds of mods will exist 2 years from now.)
          we live in a post-barrel-scraping era where DE just gave up and kept adding new separated sandboxes in which you have to grind out your mods all over again for the same non-choices

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            do you have a link to the video where steve seethes at zamboni?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'll need to dig for this one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, in the mean time, post Rebecca

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've never seen this with audio, so I don't know the context. But... I mean she had to have had one of those remote controlled vibrators in, right? And her boyfriend was present off to the side or something? I don't get what else this is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                found it

                ?list=PLDmrv5FhAWj8Sl367cyN53oPmEdE33bFf&t=2520

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nice thanks

                Ok, in the mean time, post Rebecca

                >

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's even funnier now that he's admitted years later in a devstream that he went overboard with his retort and that he should've taken into consideration some of the points earlier.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >steve goes on about how there's gonna be years and years worth of customization through modding
                >flash forward 8 years
                >look at any random youtuber build, overframe build, etc.
                >serration, split chamber, point strike, vital sense, 2 elementals, argon scope, hunter munitions
                >biggest update is that pure damage got replaced by arcanes that give pure damage, galvanized variations
                >only real flexibility is which of the 4 or so pure damage focused builds to put on the weapon, or building around a riven if you have one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Using serration in 2023
                Bruh

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                mind you I was referring to the builds 99% of the playerbase copy, and I did mention the damage arcanes basically replacing serration.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                imagine using conditional mods - I'll bet your weapons have a chance to not crit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most game devs are incapable at looking at the long term effects of their design. Look at WoW.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most game devs, if not all honestly, don't spend enough time playing their own games so they're legitimately detached from the reality of their own decisions for such great lengths of time that by the time they've figured out where they went wrong, they've created more problems in the patches since, and it's this ever revolving wheel of problems with late solutions.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            zamboni was right

            THE MOVEMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES THIS LOOSE COLLECTION OF UNRELATED GRIND-SANDBOXES GOOD

            ALSO zamboni was right lol suck it steve

            he couldnt keep doing it anymore

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I saw him online in alliance chat [spoiler]a few months ago[/spoiler]

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He has good insight hope things go well for him and warframe in general

                The whole "Oh, yeah, uh, you're actually a little kid, and you're just a pilot for these awesome unique things" thing is still baffling
                It wasn't just how fucking CLUNKY it was to constantly hop in and out of the pilot form
                It was genuinely weird to have a cool system where we played these awesome frames and did cool stuff and then rip that away from players with the pilot crap
                I still just don't get it
                Let me be the cool frame
                That's all I ever needed

                I don't absolutely hate the idea of being a kid, but how it was implemented was really unfun. Being forced to be used powers that i don't enjoy
                Having a story thats rather lack luster especially when alot of Frames have much much more compelling stories
                Being locked from your Frames and getting Excalibur Umbra at the end instead of the beginning.
                I feel minor changes could have made it bearable,
                >Can swap out frames as the Operators special
                >OP Frame and powers is given in the beginning ala God of War and then you lose it in the prologue, Frame dies and you have to use broken weapons and parts and its all about repairing a nerfed frame

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, the whole kid schtick was trash, they wanted to appeal to tumblr audience and a year later tumblr slit its own throat, so those that wanted it were a minority and the majority didn't care for it at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I unironically like the freakishly tall adults way more

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not saying its not, I'm saying a few minor fixes might have made the entire affair swallowable
                [...]
                What the fuck? explain

                I'll forever be a Dark Sector chad and nothing will change that. Warframes are just rare humans that had CIPA so they could withstand technocyte infection and develop superpowers and potentially limitless lifespans instead of going insane and turning into nanite zombies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wanted to be an actual god(lowercase g) that helps people and then goes into hibernation for the next kalpa

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not saying its not, I'm saying a few minor fixes might have made the entire affair swallowable

                I unironically like the freakishly tall adults way more

                What the fuck? explain

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >explain
                you get an adult form called the drifter to which you can swap after completing the latest cinematic quest, there is pime taradox shenanigannery afoot [spoiler]and for some reason DE made them tall enough to tower over the manlet warframes lmao[/spoiler]

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I meant why you liked them towering over your warframes
                Unless you got the good shit on it looks stupid half the time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                idk bruh tall characters are cool, it's funny that a floating stance puts my frame at about the same head height in the profile view

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would agree but the height makes it so that your cooler robots look like manlets as you put it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess I've always thought of them as puppets or dolls, even before the heccin anime kidderinos

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh they were always mechsuits or godly avatars to me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fair, it was still very jarring what we got in place of my headcanon as the spooky void ghost inhabiting these god dolls for me either way

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Duviri trailer has Dark Sector vibes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://forums.warframe.com/topic/137875-a-complete-rework-of-the-foundation-of-warframe/
          man from a decade ago points out all the flaws in warframe's modding and reward system that still plague it TO THIS DAY

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone post the girl with the mirror polished lips for research purposes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This many posts and not a single picture of that fuckable mouth.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    power scaling
    8 trillion different factions to farm reputation from
    very little reward for farming in endgame

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would love it if they could spend the time which they normally would spend on a big update like railjack or new war and actually rebalance the game.
      >normal missions provide basically no reward outside of a few materials
      >most gamemodes just revolve around killing hordes of incoming enemies or going through a ship and killing everything, gets old and tedious real fast
      >gamemodes that have more complicated mechanics like sabotage or assault aren't worth the time investment and rarely even show up
      >no focus on pacing so you're constantly forced to nuke the screen to deal with the onslaught of enemies
      >modding system and enemy leveling system keep you on a treadmill of "get damage upgrade, fight higher level enemies for the next upgrade, repeat", most builds dedicate at least 6-7 if not all 8 to raw damage per shot
      >90% of the arsenal just stops working past a certain point despite having all these outrageous damage buffing mods
      >enemies scale to a point where gimmicks like shield gating and mesmer skin become necessary in order to not get oneshot, which then paradoxically makes higher levels easier to deal with because you overbuild for them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        missions provide basically no reward outside of a few materials
        >>most gamemodes just revolve around killing hordes of incoming enemies or going through a ship and killing everything, gets old and tedious real fast
        that have more complicated mechanics like sabotage or assault aren't worth the time investment and rarely even show up
        >>no focus on pacing so you're constantly forced to nuke the screen to deal with the onslaught of enemies
        system and enemy leveling system keep you on a treadmill of "get damage upgrade, fight higher level enemies for the next upgrade, repeat", most builds dedicate at least 6-7 if not all 8 to raw damage per shot
        >>90% of the arsenal just stops working past a certain point despite having all these outrageous damage buffing mods
        scale to a point where gimmicks like shield gating and mesmer skin become necessary in order to not get oneshot, which then paradoxically makes higher levels easier to deal with because you overbuild for them
        aren't every single one of those entirely on purpose to try to force people to paypig?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes, but don't let the whales catch on or they'll stop buying plat to get coomer skin #41245

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Games shouldn't go on forever. Every single GaaS morphs into some weird husk of itself because the more shit you keep adding into a game the more it becomes unglued.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They just kept throwing new stuff into the game without removing or fixing the shit parts that were ruining the whole thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Playing as a kid, people dont spend money on mechsuits to play as a kid
      And even if they were willing that story better be fucking A+ tier not C tier story and said suits shouldn't be locked up for story reasons.
      You want to do that you better give an OP motherfucking suit, instead of meh psy attacks,
      Also this

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The reddit parable

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    from the very start. It had a lot of potential but it just got wider, not deeper, and seemed to not only avoid balance but intentionally added unbalanced gear just to keep players on the neverending grind. the grind wouldn't even have been that bad but the core game just wasn't interesting enough to sustain it, no matter how many more tile sets or 1 trick pony frames they added

    I enjoyed it most at the very start, when there was only one type of map and a few guns, because at least then it still felt like there was unrealized potential

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you still play garden gnomes in Space? Back when I was playing it, I was swimming in platinum without actually putting a single cent into the game, and that's just from casual trading.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can, you just have to devote yourself fully to the riven mafia

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is far more easier to get free plat by selling prime blueprints or certain mods.

        >steve goes on about how there's gonna be years and years worth of customization through modding
        >flash forward 8 years
        >look at any random youtuber build, overframe build, etc.
        >serration, split chamber, point strike, vital sense, 2 elementals, argon scope, hunter munitions
        >biggest update is that pure damage got replaced by arcanes that give pure damage, galvanized variations
        >only real flexibility is which of the 4 or so pure damage focused builds to put on the weapon, or building around a riven if you have one

        Unironically Reb is following zambonni but keeping the poopsock that is steel path fags on check.
        Also it is stupidly easy now to be on the "end game" since the grind was toned down, railjack is stupidly good for a loot pinata, and the necramech + Archgun shenanigans made ope world and missions a cakewalk.

        It feels more like a UT 2004 mod than Steveframe from U6 and onwards.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they focused too much on the tenno

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having too much content mixed up with a casual experience. Doing the same shit over and over again in games is normal, but warframe having this casual fast-paced "press one button to kill everything" gameplay while doing the same farm seasons for some time unironically turns off your brain.
    The lack of a proper endgame is a problem too, although wf HAS an endgame, but the thing is that you reach it way too soon. After the Sacrifice quest you already past the endgame so after that you just have to farm and farm and get new things and farm.

    My theory is that DE secretly shift the Warframe endgame on purpose with the Captura update.
    >Why?
    After you are able to kill / do anything in this game, you already reach a certain point of endgame with some mods, the only thing that will activate your brain back is how cool you look while doing everything. When people jokingly said that FashionFrame was the true endgame they weren't wrong at all.
    The game turns off your brain on purpose so the only thing that will keep it active is the fashion of your frame.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think DRG got the progression system right where Warframe leaned too hard into power creep. They're remarkably similar games, yet GSG understands that damage mods need to be competitive with other mods and that overpowered nuke weapons need something to reign them in or the game becomes boring after a while. On top of that everything in DRG is obtainable with certainty, other than weapon OCs and purely cosmetic items. You have incentive to grind in the endgame without locking weapons or characters behind RNG that forces you to play a mission you hate 10 times. Enemy scaling provides actual increased challenge and reward instead of just an incentive to overtune your guns and frames until they practically play the game by themselves.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Arguably Archwing, if not that then open world shittery and overfocusing on the potato children.
    And IF NOT THAT... then DEFINITELY helminth subsuming.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Name 2 (two) things wrong with helminth.
      Bonus points if you don't say 'i have to get another frame'.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bandaid solution to frames having shitty abilities (instead of actually fixing the problem DE can now just say "helminth the slot")
        >causes frames to lose their uniqueness when you use the same core abilities
        >just overall power creep

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >instead of actually fixing the problem DE can now just say "helminth the slot"
          This doesn't happen and DE has reworked a handful of old, forgotten abilities that were previously nothing more than 'helminth this away' slots.
          >causes frames to lose their uniqueness when you use the same core abilities
          Very true.
          >just overall power creep
          Sometimes true but I feel for the most part the abilities that frames provide to helminth are reasonable and interesting. Shit like Xaku's Whisper just needs to be removed.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Make kino TPS
    >Ruin it to make ebin cinemtic quests, pathetic attempt at MMORPG mechanics and grind
    T-thanks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please god fix your webm quality, anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      was the DOF always like that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god why is the shooting is this game so fucking good. I keep going back to it until I realize i'm just grinding so I can grind some more

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The core of the game used to basically be exclusively shooting, so that had to be good.
        Back when it was new the game was very slow paced and it was hard to get more than like 200 energy a stage (usually less), so you had to be careful when you used your abilities and they were much weaker.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I miss when support frames were good, Nyx and Trinity were my main back then

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wisp is like the overlord of supports and braindead to use unless you want to get fancy with her kit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even nekros was in extreme demand for missions when he first came out. I remember people would always be asking for nyx, trinity, and nekros. Because without at least 2 of them you were fucked on the infested defenses.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bonedaddy is back on the menu with that new lua survival shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Khora is straight up better.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even nekros was in extreme demand for missions when he first came out. I remember people would always be asking for nyx, trinity, and nekros. Because without at least 2 of them you were fucked on the infested defenses.

            at least we still have harrow

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And wisp

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wisp is hardly a support. only her 1 is really a "support" ability and it's basically a passive. meanwhile harrow's entire kit is based around buffing himself and his teammates while replenishing health and energy. wisp is a damage dealer with a support ability, whereas harrow is a support frame with no damage dealing abilities.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >wisp is hardly a support.
                Normally this is where a replier might ask "are you retarded?" except there's no need to because you made it clear already that yes, you are. Wisp's motes are, in one ability, one of the best DPS buffs, one of the best survivability buffs, and one of the best forms of CC in the game. One of her damaging abilities is dogshit and the other is yet another in a long line of pointlessly overscaled "increase outgoing damage to 1-8 targets" mechanics. Wisp is absolutely a support frame. If Wisp is not a support frame then nothing is a support frame.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >having ONE (1) ability that heals or buffs makes you a support class
                I didn't know volt was a support frame

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Move speed buff is all volt is good for so yes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >multiple damage buffs that apply to allies
                >multiple means to restore shields to allies
                >Speed
                You know that usually if you go "gee I didn't know X was a Y" you're supposed to provide an example that doesn't prove the statement, right anon?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      D on that interception always gets the biggest mob waves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing tops void D.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why bother doing any of the webm moves when one or two heavy melee slams does the job just as well, if not faster?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's mobile defense aka a stand around waiting type of mission so he may as well try to have some fun.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no endgame
    >took off raids
    >give every "ultra rare" mod for free
    >wait 6 months for 10 min content

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they started autisticly hyper focusing on factions + faction rep which has a super small cap so you have to spend a month grinding to get to the actually good shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      protip after speed running a pc account and leveling 1 mastery rank a day for 24 days.

      clear the solar system, and keep building weapons constantly. when you get to a boss, farm every warframe and weapon part it drops and build them. complete every story quest as they become available. join a clan as early as you can and buy all their blueprints. grind spy missions til you get Ivara and a billion Relics. sell recent prime components for plat, or convert them into baro items to sell later. buy a cred booster and grind the index for about 10 million credit, it wouldnt hurt to to double it to cover all future frame and weapon construction.

      you can become a high enough master rank doing this that the amount of standing earnable each day will allow you to max factions in about a week. its even easier now with how they setup animal conservation. you capture a few animals in the open of earth and venus and you max out your standing.
      the other two are so far in that you wont have a problem with standing caps.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nerfing chroma over kneecapping their shitty new boss. Actually really just the open world, there was no real point in anything they added with that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the open world was when I quit tbh
      shit was a fucking mess of bad designs and shit grind

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's was Nick's fault.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The whole "Oh, yeah, uh, you're actually a little kid, and you're just a pilot for these awesome unique things" thing is still baffling
    It wasn't just how fucking CLUNKY it was to constantly hop in and out of the pilot form
    It was genuinely weird to have a cool system where we played these awesome frames and did cool stuff and then rip that away from players with the pilot crap
    I still just don't get it
    Let me be the cool frame
    That's all I ever needed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This really killed the drive. I hate the concept of the kids so much, they couldn't have made a separate faction about this shit while maintaining the mystique of the Tenno. The only saving grace people give this is having a kill switch for the stupid moonbots that get resistance to all your elements.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They even presented a cooler concept with harrows questlines and the kid in that turning into some shadow ghost shit over the years.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Really early on when they dropped any notion that stealth was worth anything

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does the game still have damage auras that kill enemies before you even see them? If so, that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you mean like saryn and mesa? yeah

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post porn already.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ignoring user feedback, mainly.
    "We want raids, more endgame content"
    somehow they misconstrued this as "We want MORE copy-pasted pseudo-open world areas with mundane content that nobody wants to do, more dead content, and more shitty quests which don't even follow the game's lore, also nerf our favorite weapons and combat styles"

    Did I hit the nail on the head?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much yeah
      >removes raids
      >adds shitty open worlds + shitty bosses
      I remember getting the 2 arcanes I needed and then never touching eidolons again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well that and the modding system turning everything into a gear check and the reward system forcing you to run the same mundane mission over and over ad nauseum

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it never went wrong, players just burn out because they cant stop
    im having fun farming focus for the past month or so, completing that system.
    then ill put it down again and come back in 6-12 months for new content and warframes to play with.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scores, yes scores of different currencies, dozens of factions... griding that would make a Korean mmos blush.
    Their utterly desperate attempt to pad out the game while adding crumbs of content is deHispanicable.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's interesting how in both warframe and destiny the shooting/gunplay is considered "good" when in reality it's because both games do the aiming for you with insane bullet magnetism. It seems like these people actually don't like shooters and would probably enjoy something like an autobattler or idle incremental game that plays itself for them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unless the console versions are an exception (why the fuck are you playing shooters and complaining about aim assist you fucking retard?) Warframe does not have bullet magnetism.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, unless you're Mag. Or use the Scourge.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or Xaku, or a status amp.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wisp Prime not being released. I said what we’re all thinking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to need to grind out 2 copies just for the fucking shards

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The more you play the game, the more the same it feels.
    the more, you don't feel like its going anywhere.
    Sure, you have many warframes to play with.
    Many guns to use.
    Many mods to swap in and out.

    But what really is the goal?
    Big numbers?
    Cosmetics?
    Continually getting that new gear that everyone will eventually get?

    The game lost it's path.
    The quests did add new mechanics, new rewards, and new ways to play.
    But, There isn't a reward that is good enough.
    A reward for the players who really go through the thickest of it.

    The story warframe now is stuck upon revisiting the past, and trying to make sense of why the tenno even still exist, or who really is pulling the strings.
    They wrote themselves into a damn corner, and the game hardly feels rewarding like it once did.
    Until there is mystery, until there is something that makes the game FEEL good playing it, and not just buying everything to skip the grind for that reward, it will keep falling.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Very disconnected and often discontinued features glued together.
    I still checked the game out from time to time, when I could just come back and use the resources I already had, but then they started invent new resources for every new thing they added, which they then abandoned anyway for the next thing. And then stand in a bunch of garbage grind systems, that are worthless to get into, locked off from doing fun things or trying something by
    >Noo, your kitted out death machine isn't allowed to damage to this, you need to get the thing from the thing that we never touched again since we implemented, because it was shitty and tedious and no one liked it!
    The point I kinda already saw the cracks was when they started to try and "balance" this power fantasy of a game by putting in enemies that just disable your Warframe's abilities and drain its energy. Or adding a Warframe with the shittiest auto-turret in existence, because it wasn't "active enough gameplay"... next to all the other Warframes that clear the map at the press of a button while standing in one spot (some of which were also made shittier for that reason), etc. etc. The very definition of fun police. They entirely lost focus on what it was, that made playing a walking, bio-mechanical war crime fun by trying to force players to play the way they envisioned rather then forming the game around how players approached it (which early Warframe did).

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warframe could have been a brilliant mix of Diablo-like ARPG with TPS gameplay, but it was managed like ass by incompetent developers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah, having scaling enemy levels in a third person action game is a mistake.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what do you mean? don't warframe enemies scale? isn't that why some frames and weapons eventually become outclassed?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes, just like in diablo. that's one of the problems with the game's balance. less and less of the game is about actual skill and picking the right weapon/frame for the situation, instead most of the "difficulty" comes from needing the right mods and the strongest frames/guns. it's power creep, and because there's no consistent level at which you fight enemies you end up just spending time and resources on some loadout that can do steel path and just use it for everything, which trivializes almost all the "content" in the game.
          also weapons and warframes getting outclassed by scaling damage is retarded, there's a reason 90% of the weapons in the game are considered MR fodder.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >don't warframe enemies scale?
          It's aids when you're getting started because you'll hit 25 minutes in survival and suddenly do negative damage to eximus, just silly

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to be space Guyver but the devs keep making me sit through their horrible writing
    The kids, the surrogate mother figure, it's oddly repulsive and infantile in the worst way. Like I'm playing through some autist's fantasy about being a child again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      me too, I just wish there was another game like it. I tried out the first descendant demo but it sucked, soulless moron garbage. warframe had the potential to be fucking awesome with its fast paced movement system and plethora of unique weapons and abilities, yet it squandered its potential on grinds, RNG, and powercreep.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Years ago they managed to create a somewhat fun and rewarding endgame content with Eidolon Hunts but for reason they didn't improve on it and went back to the "infinite scaling" enemies in regular missions as "endgame content".
    Maybe this is outdated since I haven't played in a while.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Glad the devs are still coomers.
    >Titania premium skin gives her a battle thong with a slight peek of her asshole

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, why would frames need assholes for.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So that operators could /ss/ with them, obviously.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      show us

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    THE MOVEMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES THIS LOOSE COLLECTION OF UNRELATED GRIND-SANDBOXES GOOD

    ALSO zamboni was right lol suck it steve

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nerfing all the fun stuff.
    Ill never not get mad over the nerfed arca plasmor, or the nerfed staticor.
    Also I played it once last year and realized the only good archwing was nerfed because they made teleporting a universal thing. Instead of having fun they gave it a shitty grapple. What a fucking joke of a game.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    About 8 updates ago.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Old Blood, Empyrean and Scarlet Spear were the final nails in the coffin. Heart of Deimos was the life support.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of focus.
    Just kept spending hundreds upon hundreds of dev hours on new shit that gets dropped/powercrept almost instantly.
    Theyve said before the plat shop is the only thing keeping the lights on, and I believe it.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Content bloat that still feels shallow since the devs keep adding new shit without thinking about how to integrate new systems properly, or if they should at all.
    >Leaving unpolished shit they release to collect dust as they move on to the next shiny thing instead of fully committing to anything
    >Fundamentally impossible to balance due to mod system and player mobility. Only way DE knows how to make enemies that have any impact is enemies that remove player agency via knockdowns, hooks, nullifiers, etc. which just becomes a tug-of-war between devs and players to out-bullshit each other
    >Adding shitty cosmestics and general shift in warframe design from bio-tech suits to generic MMO shit, which devs said they wouldn't do years ago.

    It's a weird feeling loving a game so much to the point that you start seeing so many cracks and flaws you can't ignore, and then disliking it for it's wasted potential.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bio-tech suits
      Would personally love to sit down and figure out how to design draw this sort of stuff. Itches that scratch, y'know?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've always wondered what went behind the design for the earlier warframes, you don't really see horns being put on high-tech armour, so frames like loki really stook out for me.
        Can't really say the same for the more recent frames though, although harrow and gauss look pretty good without being too cluttered.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Archwing

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    china

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The open world shit is fucking retarded.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where did it all go so wrong?
    Nowhere. Warframe is an amazing game and everyone who enjoys fiction should play it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shows up for like 5 minutes
      >as a forced non-warframe section
      >never encountered as a warframe
      >never brought up again
      >after the quest everywhere except the plains and vallis forget this narmer shit ever happened
      wow real great fiction you got there

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I still don't know why narhmer didn't show up as a new invasion faction.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they don't INTEGRATE anything, it's just one new sandbox island in the archipelago every time the only crossover is new mods for any of the equipment shared across game modes unique to each island

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DE forgot invasions exist

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not fixing game breaking bugs that have existed for 7+ years

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that railjack isn't the main way to play the game.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    new war was a mistake

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The first big dip was when they tried to add a hero style plot when most players were playing to be a space-guyver-ninja-mercenary playing both sides for dosh
    The second MASSIVE dip in quality was plains of eidolon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plains of eidolon
      Not archwing? The entirely separate game that uses none of your stuff and has to be tediously grinded on like w maps to even get a weapon that can kill the boss of the mode in less then 45 minutes? The entirely separate pre alpha build of another game disguised as an expansion for warframe?
      Planes of eidolon was amazing compared to archwing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        archwing has 0 content a player needs to progress. Its been years since Ive played mind you but I remember so much good shit for late game players was locked behind pte

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I consider archwing a symptom of the bad dev brain causing the problems but not big enough to register as a tumor since it was so relegated
        plains was amazing comparatively in that it functioned as intended but the intent was dogshit garbage that was borderline mandatory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ironically the planes made the archwings better purely because they allowed you to speed through and trivialize the open world. which then trivialized the hoverboards because the game already had all that but more with the archwings for speeding through the planes

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alright warbros. How would (you) rework the modding system?

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    new war was genuinely embarassing

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i got all the prime suits i wanted. i got all the weapons i wanted. i didn't pay a dime for it, only grinded some void keys. i've tried going back but you cannot do anything without clan resources, and i don't give a fuck about clans. i tried building the flying thing for open world, i tried building the flying thing for space, but it just took too long. fuck em. i already won. i already got like 90% of the steam achievements playing for only 400 hours. they don't even want me back. fuck em

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there even a reason to minmax in the game yet? Like legitimately hard content that asks you to actually minmax? Because when I last played years ago, after completing the star chart there wasn't really anything else to actually shoot for, so the end-game boils down to just collecting.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PoE and other """"open world"""" islands of content essentially ruined Warframe. Fuck you, DE. And fuck you especially, Steve.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They keep adding new systems and bloat, while ignoring previous ones. How long has it been since solar rails armistice?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      THIS
      fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck why won't someone make a new game in a modern unreal or some other engine with comparable moveandshooty lootergrinder gameplay

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where did it all go so wrong?
    becca not taking over development sooner.
    everything is actually going uphill now.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have bought plat twice
    two 100$ packs
    only with the 75% off coupon

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So why did these lil bros kill their creators? Dropped the game before I got to that. This game has such an awful fucking story pression, literay every other mmo does it better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the sentients got their way in the end and the tenno ended up just being tools. They try to justify it with "but they were le evil and oppresive" now, and the current shithole the system is atm is totally not their fault either.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oppression bad

        Lmao the absolute state of Digital Extremes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oppression bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      originally? the lotus manipulated them into doing it to fulfil her primary directive
      now? because the orokin were comically evil moustache twirling bond villains with no redeeming qualities whatsoever (other than the few survivors and/or named orokin from lore snippets, they're totally different)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the orokin were really fucked up. they were basically the space roman empire but really narcissistic. the main reason why the tenno were against orokin is because they killed margulis who basically became the mother to the tenno.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Orokin were literally space garden gnomes playing God and removing jesus from the board, until Satan which is the Man in the wall became absolutely livid over their retarded atheism and heresy fucking over life until he fucked them over with the Zariman Ten-Zero incident that gave birth to the Tenno.
      Also Ballas was a sickfuck obsessed with a Female Human who gave Birth to the Warframes and Transference because he really was a sickfuck per Umbra's questline.

      I think one of Warframe's biggest issues was the small pool of meta frames actually playable during endgame high-level missions. (Survivals, exterminations, etc.) I haven't played Warframe in years, and I think the last time I played the game was...idk, a little after Grendel's release? So, say around 2019?

      And I remember that all the fucking cool frames I wanted to bring during high-level missions (Ivara, Ash, Oberon, Harrow, etc.) would get one-shot 24/7 no matter how strong I built them. Warframe pigeonholes you into playing Nidus, Rhino, Wukong, and other meta frames if you want to stay alive. It was a real fun-killer for me.

      Anon, Harrow literally solos everything in his path.
      Volt solos even DE by himself.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Grind a shit ton to make a kitgun really good
    >Gets nerfed to the point where I have to be in melee range for it to do anything
    >Grind to get a really good zaw built
    >The riven mod is nerfed so that its range and status effect build up drops to nothing
    >Build up Ember so that I can nuke everything below level 30 from two rooms over
    >They change her skills so now she gets a generic meteor storm thing
    >Go back to one of my old weapons that had a really good moveset
    >Realize that they changed how the style mods worked so that my character is locked in place doing the attacks, and I have to take the style mod off to attack and run at the same time

    The game was always a mess, but for someone like me that enjoys the grind and building ridiculous weapons/frames, it was a blast. But there was a solid few months where every time I would get a frame or weapon to be how I liked it, they would nerf it into the ground. Hell, my friend told me about some of the mod changes they've done over the past year and realized that, if I went back now, half of my weapons would be trash.

    It's a PvE focused game where you're supposed to easily cleave through hundreds of enemies at a time, constantly finding ways to slightly tweak builds to make them as optimal as possible. And yet, they feel the need to constantly "re-balance" everything. Which, honestly, is indicative of a major issue the devs have. They're always trying to reinvent the wheel without even considering if it's a good idea. Let's make a super buggy open world! Let's put ships into the game that are broken as hell! They're always chasing a spotlight and doing new things for the sake of it being new.

    I just gave up at a certain point because of it. I couldn't stand coming back to the game every week and having to completely scrap my mods and start from scratch. It was infuriating.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tbqfh I haven't changed my unconditional big-dick unconditional crit high damage kitgun and zaw builds in 3+ years and they still hold up at all levels of DEAC, then I fell for the bramma meme and it's the same story I just overpower everything with big number

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think one of Warframe's biggest issues was the small pool of meta frames actually playable during endgame high-level missions. (Survivals, exterminations, etc.) I haven't played Warframe in years, and I think the last time I played the game was...idk, a little after Grendel's release? So, say around 2019?

    And I remember that all the fucking cool frames I wanted to bring during high-level missions (Ivara, Ash, Oberon, Harrow, etc.) would get one-shot 24/7 no matter how strong I built them. Warframe pigeonholes you into playing Nidus, Rhino, Wukong, and other meta frames if you want to stay alive. It was a real fun-killer for me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they've since added shield gating which will allow you to play most frames at high levels without getting oneshot, but it pidgenholes you into a boring playstyle where you stack augur mods and brief respite to restore your shields as soon as they're depleted. this makes you effectively invulnerable, and also allows DE to completely ignore the absurd damage scaling enemies get at higher levels!

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >majority of weapons and mods useless
    >meta frames and builds reign supreme
    >mission design and reward system doesnt work with the grindy nature of the game
    >keeps nerfing efficient play styles
    >power creep
    >reaching endgame is a pain in the ass and endgame content is a joke
    >story missions that moves at a snail's pace but somehow feels like its written as it goes
    >adding new content and mechanics disconnected from the main game that gets completely abandoned for another unrelated content and mechanic
    Most importantly they started focusing more on spectacle over content, somewhere around archwing and first open world. People dont give two flying fucks about some bombastic scenery or missions aside from their first few playthroughs when the whole point of the game is to turn your brain off and grind for hours, and they made that one fucking thing that matters one of the most unpleasant and unfun experiences I've ever played.
    God I fucking hate DE and their game.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too much grind is what made me quit. I had to grind some missions I hated to drop some shit I needed so I can grind some other mission I hated, so I can build the thing I want.
    They kept adding more materials to farm but kept the same drop rates, which were low as fuck.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    with Rivens everything went the loo and they flush it.

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