Playing wild arms 3 right now. >Wild Arms - 6.5/10 expected Lufia 2 puzzles and was disappointed. Soundtrack is peak though. >Wild Arms 2 - 7.5 /10 would be an 8 or higher with a better translation. I like that they went full hog with the xenogears anime bullshit. >Wild Arms 3 - 7/10 doesn't seem as interesting as 2, but it's an improvement over 1.
Yeah but even for its time they looked like complete dogwater.
I still remember seeing the screenshots in a mag and thinking they can't be serious.
At least 3 was a huge step forward and visually pleasing, even by todays standards.
WA1 was a lot of fun, solid 8/10
Wild arms 2 would be a 10/10 jrpg if not for the translation
WA3 is a 9/10 and my favorite of the first 3.
Never played the remake or sequels or TRPG spinoff.
Growing up, I always assumed that the blonde girl sending that magic off the cliff was a young Cecilia using the teardrop artifact. I never actually finished the game as a kid so I never learned she was actually an Elw that you meet later in the game.
In hated how little times to shine Jack had, compared to the rest.
You might think it is easier to balance the focus if the group size is only three members.
Wild Arms 1 is peak JRPG
2 started to introduce mechanics that I thought were too tedious to bother with, like stopping to scan on the world map every 5 steps.
I tried 3, really enjoyed it til you got to the world map and I saw the scanning mechanic was still a thing.
Wild Arms 1 is love.
Wild Arms 2 is my fav only because I grew up with it, but still waiting for a better translation romhack.
Wild Arms 3 hardly remember it too much because school was kicking my ass around the time but remember enjoying.
Regardless, all three had kino music.
They are all very low budget. It works in the first game, starts loosing charm in the second. PS2 games are bargain bin rpgs. Don't let the cool art on Wild Arms 1 cover fool you in to thinking it's better than it is.
I played only the first 2 and found the first one to have a much coherent experience.
2 had much bullshit implemented, like one character getting new abilities by rng, or that you can miss out on content if you forgot to get the e-boi vampire in your party.
WA1: 8/10 Solid game, didnt age too well due to the eye-raping 3d battle graphics. Great pixel art in towns/overworld. OST is 11/10
WA2: 6/10 Better graphics but dropped the 2d overworld. Introduced annoying mechanics. Plot goes off the rails later on. OST still amazing.
WA3: 9/10 The favorite of the franchise and still holds up well. Great graphics, plot, characters, OST, everything. Only gripe is the tiny size of "towns" and money grinding.
WA4: 3/10. The red headed stepchild that practically killed the franchise. Totally changed the battle system. Awful plot/characters. OST and some character art is the only saving grace.
WA5: 8/10 Anniversary game with lots of cameos but also its own storyline. Much improved on the new battle system. One of the last JRPGS in existence to still use an explorable world map.
Alter Code F: 7/10. Remake of the first game. Fixes alot of its problems, new characters to play, OST isnt as memorable.
WA XF: 9/10. Amazing gem of an SRPG and very overlooked. Has a unique hex grid instead of typical squares. 11/10 OST
The mobile gacha game: The less said about it the better
>WA XF: 9/10. Amazing gem of an SRPG and very overlooked. Has a unique hex grid instead of typical squares. 11/10 OST
Shit man, I hate Wizardry combat and by extension JRPG gameplay, but this does attract me.
Is necessary to have played the rest of the games to get into it's world/ plot?
Wild Arms 1 - played it after FF7 but still loved it, it can hang with the 16-era RPGs just fine. The only real problem I can think of it one of the most important cutscenes in the game is hidden behind letting the title screen idle.
Wild Arms 2 - The entry with the most batshit story beats. Also the best overworld theme in the series, and I won't budge on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddYs2aPTgB0
Wild Arms 3 - Overlong but enjoyable. I didn't realize how much foreshadowing there was with Beatrice until well after I'd played it.
What little of 4 I'd played was underwhelming, but I suppose I could give it another shot.
>The only real problem I can think of it one of the most important cutscenes in the game is hidden behind letting the title screen idle.
I kind of love when games do this, sometimes you'll boot up an old PS1 game, let it idle for a bit and something brand new pops up because you never let it sit for that long lol
Almost like an easter egg in a way, since so many probably missed it
Honestly, I was surprised when I replayed it recently after almost a decade. The villains were much better than I remembered, the foreshadoing was great as
Wild Arms 1 - played it after FF7 but still loved it, it can hang with the 16-era RPGs just fine. The only real problem I can think of it one of the most important cutscenes in the game is hidden behind letting the title screen idle.
Wild Arms 2 - The entry with the most batshit story beats. Also the best overworld theme in the series, and I won't budge on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddYs2aPTgB0
Wild Arms 3 - Overlong but enjoyable. I didn't realize how much foreshadowing there was with Beatrice until well after I'd played it.
What little of 4 I'd played was underwhelming, but I suppose I could give it another shot.
1 is great from start to finish, and it ended up being my favourite as I replayed it years later Alhazad is the biggest asshole in the game (maybe even entire WA series), Boomerang is the biggest bro
2 was my favourite when I was a kid (Odessa and Knight Blazer carried Disc 1 hard, but IMHO it had the best party cast in the series), but after replaying it years later I've noticed all those translation issues and it felt jarring to read
I also think I've enjoyed WA2's postgame the most
3 felt so weird to me - the only character I kinda cared about was Clive (and maybe Gallows) but the rest were eh. Game was also unnecessary long in terms of plot (I got bored by the third arc where Ziek appears out of nowhere to kill demon Janus and get his spear back, only to job and achieve nothing when you shoot him down with Lombardia. And then the final arc started and I was just "bruh". Probably had the most optional content so far and was the most Wild West entry in the series, but I just didn't enjoy it as much as WA1 and WA2 in terms of gameplay.
4 was a disaster and the only saving grace of it is Raquel (both plot-wise and gameplay-wise). Linearity, lack of Tools / interesting puzzles, overall cliche plot, hex gameplay completely changing the previous WA gameplay system...
Never played 5 after how much I was disappointed by 4
PSP game was way too different compared to the rest of the series and felt moke like a strategy puzzle, which is not up to everyone's tastes
Remake of 1 changed way too much for my personal tastes and I'd rather replay the original (even if it means missing out of playable Zed and Emma)
They also turned him into a total joke. In the OG, he at least got a bit of a chance to be badass in his bonus boss fight when he turns into that hulking monster. In the remake, he turns into a goofy robot.
i work from home and never, EVER do my job. My social life consists of just hooking up with girls from dating apps. So I have lots of time to do my job, read, and stay in shape
1&2 aged terribly, 3 is pure kino, 4 is one of the worst JRPGs I've ever played. 5 looked cool but it was on the tail end of the PS2 era and I moved on to X360
I fucking loved 5 when I played it at like 13 but holy shit trying to replay it again that first section up until Avril is really hard to get through, feels like the most generic anime ever with the dub.
Played the first game and loved it.
Playing wild arms 3 right now.
>Wild Arms - 6.5/10 expected Lufia 2 puzzles and was disappointed. Soundtrack is peak though.
>Wild Arms 2 - 7.5 /10 would be an 8 or higher with a better translation. I like that they went full hog with the xenogears anime bullshit.
>Wild Arms 3 - 7/10 doesn't seem as interesting as 2, but it's an improvement over 1.
>went full hog with the xenogears anime bullshit
It's the Symphogear team.
to be fair, WA predated Symphogear by YEARS
WA3 just gets better as you play IMO, also has killer music all the way through.
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What are these scores to you? Is 5 an average enjoyable game to you?
>is 5 an average game?
Yes, what else would it be?
Just making sure you aren't operating on the IGN scale.
1 and 2 had by far the worst-looking 3D graphics in existence.
I wish they kept the battles in 2D.
It was one of the first JRPGs to implement 3D graphics, and despite Sony's backing it was a small development arm, it can be excused on that.
Yeah but even for its time they looked like complete dogwater.
I still remember seeing the screenshots in a mag and thinking they can't be serious.
At least 3 was a huge step forward and visually pleasing, even by todays standards.
Definitely. Would be timeless PSX JRPGs like Suikoden and BoF if they did that
WA1 was a lot of fun, solid 8/10
Wild arms 2 would be a 10/10 jrpg if not for the translation
WA3 is a 9/10 and my favorite of the first 3.
Never played the remake or sequels or TRPG spinoff.
What’s wrong with the translation for Wild Arms 2?
I played 1 and 2 and i loved them, i thought the magic system was really cool
the theme for the first one was complete kino
Kino. I never played AC:F, but I love its rendition of the town theme:
Growing up, I always assumed that the blonde girl sending that magic off the cliff was a young Cecilia using the teardrop artifact. I never actually finished the game as a kid so I never learned she was actually an Elw that you meet later in the game.
>I never learned she was actually an Elw that you meet later in the game.
The fuck, I beat the game and never knew that
That's her weird ear right there.
Dang I always thought that was a bow
Kicks off with one of the greatest songs in any vidya ever
whoops posted WA1 instead of WA2
>the cellist with the huge goofy grin on his face who is obviously fucking jamming out
i will never be that happy
In hated how little times to shine Jack had, compared to the rest.
You might think it is easier to balance the focus if the group size is only three members.
Didn't the characters get way more exposition in the PS2 remake?
I don't know.
At least in the PS1game, they did him dirty
Never played it.
Wild Arms 1 is peak JRPG
2 started to introduce mechanics that I thought were too tedious to bother with, like stopping to scan on the world map every 5 steps.
I tried 3, really enjoyed it til you got to the world map and I saw the scanning mechanic was still a thing.
Wild Arms 1 is love.
Wild Arms 2 is my fav only because I grew up with it, but still waiting for a better translation romhack.
Wild Arms 3 hardly remember it too much because school was kicking my ass around the time but remember enjoying.
Regardless, all three had kino music.
I liked them and looking forward to armed fantasia
I'm very excited. It will be pure joy.
>music by the wild arms composers
well you sold me
The game is basically made by people who made Wild Arms, just can't use the IP name.
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KINO
>those character designs
>le wild west
weeb gays ruin every franchise
Your bait is horrible and you should feel bad for posting it
Those character designs are complete shit though
The only thing that would bait are the weeb gays like you who ruin every franchise. All Wild Arms games from ps2 onward are utterly soulless.
The one on the far left and far right look fine, but everyone else just follow the current disgusting vtuber design trend, a shame.
So which Youtuber did the video essay on this? Link it.
They are all very low budget. It works in the first game, starts loosing charm in the second. PS2 games are bargain bin rpgs. Don't let the cool art on Wild Arms 1 cover fool you in to thinking it's better than it is.
Kino
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>final boss theme is a remix of the opening theme
Name a more kino trope.
I played only the first 2 and found the first one to have a much coherent experience.
2 had much bullshit implemented, like one character getting new abilities by rng, or that you can miss out on content if you forgot to get the e-boi vampire in your party.
WA1: 8/10 Solid game, didnt age too well due to the eye-raping 3d battle graphics. Great pixel art in towns/overworld. OST is 11/10
WA2: 6/10 Better graphics but dropped the 2d overworld. Introduced annoying mechanics. Plot goes off the rails later on. OST still amazing.
WA3: 9/10 The favorite of the franchise and still holds up well. Great graphics, plot, characters, OST, everything. Only gripe is the tiny size of "towns" and money grinding.
WA4: 3/10. The red headed stepchild that practically killed the franchise. Totally changed the battle system. Awful plot/characters. OST and some character art is the only saving grace.
WA5: 8/10 Anniversary game with lots of cameos but also its own storyline. Much improved on the new battle system. One of the last JRPGS in existence to still use an explorable world map.
Alter Code F: 7/10. Remake of the first game. Fixes alot of its problems, new characters to play, OST isnt as memorable.
WA XF: 9/10. Amazing gem of an SRPG and very overlooked. Has a unique hex grid instead of typical squares. 11/10 OST
The mobile gacha game: The less said about it the better
>WA XF: 9/10. Amazing gem of an SRPG and very overlooked. Has a unique hex grid instead of typical squares. 11/10 OST
Shit man, I hate Wizardry combat and by extension JRPG gameplay, but this does attract me.
Is necessary to have played the rest of the games to get into it's world/ plot?
No. They're like FF games and all separate from eachother, with things like locales and names referencing back to the older games.
Thanks, nice to know.
Wild Arms 1 - played it after FF7 but still loved it, it can hang with the 16-era RPGs just fine. The only real problem I can think of it one of the most important cutscenes in the game is hidden behind letting the title screen idle.
Wild Arms 2 - The entry with the most batshit story beats. Also the best overworld theme in the series, and I won't budge on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddYs2aPTgB0
Wild Arms 3 - Overlong but enjoyable. I didn't realize how much foreshadowing there was with Beatrice until well after I'd played it.
What little of 4 I'd played was underwhelming, but I suppose I could give it another shot.
>The only real problem I can think of it one of the most important cutscenes in the game is hidden behind letting the title screen idle.
I kind of love when games do this, sometimes you'll boot up an old PS1 game, let it idle for a bit and something brand new pops up because you never let it sit for that long lol
Almost like an easter egg in a way, since so many probably missed it
There's no group working on 2's retranslation, right? Should I bite the bullet just play it as it is right now?
It's too niche to get a retranslation, as far as I know no one has even attempted it. It's a shame because the plot is on par with the giants
too wild
kino fight:
What's the deal with 2's localisation?
I don't remember anything confusing about the plot.
Ignoring Liz and Ard's poetic samurai nonsense being machine translated, it's pretty much 90s anime level translations.
a copy of the first game have been setting on a shelf in my library for almost 30 years. Someday i will give it a try
WA 3 was my first so it will always hold a special place in my heart. Can't wait for Armed Fantasia.
Also this theme is burned into my mind, maybe cause I was young but this fucker was kicking my ass for quite a while
Janus is an excellent first act antagonist
Honestly, I was surprised when I replayed it recently after almost a decade. The villains were much better than I remembered, the foreshadoing was great as
said and Maya with her gang were awesome rivals
Probably the next JRPG I'll play when I finish Xenogears.
Never played it but the opening is one of the best i've heard , it's up there with chrono cross and nascar 99
Cecilia or Jane?
Jane, always
How did Wild Arms compare to Skies of Arcadia?
They're both good but Skies of Arcadia's pace is molasses in comparison to Wild Arms
Should I play the original or Alter Code: F if I want to get started with the series?
The original, the 3D battles may be a little jank but it grows on you. Everything else is top notch.
I feel like the remake loses some of the charm
Original
1 is great from start to finish, and it ended up being my favourite as I replayed it years later
Alhazad is the biggest asshole in the game (maybe even entire WA series), Boomerang is the biggest bro
2 was my favourite when I was a kid (Odessa and Knight Blazer carried Disc 1 hard, but IMHO it had the best party cast in the series), but after replaying it years later I've noticed all those translation issues and it felt jarring to read
I also think I've enjoyed WA2's postgame the most
3 felt so weird to me - the only character I kinda cared about was Clive (and maybe Gallows) but the rest were eh. Game was also unnecessary long in terms of plot (I got bored by the third arc where Ziek appears out of nowhere to kill demon Janus and get his spear back, only to job and achieve nothing when you shoot him down with Lombardia. And then the final arc started and I was just "bruh". Probably had the most optional content so far and was the most Wild West entry in the series, but I just didn't enjoy it as much as WA1 and WA2 in terms of gameplay.
4 was a disaster and the only saving grace of it is Raquel (both plot-wise and gameplay-wise). Linearity, lack of Tools / interesting puzzles, overall cliche plot, hex gameplay completely changing the previous WA gameplay system...
Never played 5 after how much I was disappointed by 4
PSP game was way too different compared to the rest of the series and felt moke like a strategy puzzle, which is not up to everyone's tastes
Remake of 1 changed way too much for my personal tastes and I'd rather replay the original (even if it means missing out of playable Zed and Emma)
>my face when you transform for real for the first time
Maybe it's just nostalgia but I enjoyed the uncanny look of some of the characters, compared to the remaster.
New Zed looks like shit.
They also turned him into a total joke. In the OG, he at least got a bit of a chance to be badass in his bonus boss fight when he turns into that hulking monster. In the remake, he turns into a goofy robot.
He also had the most baller theme.
How do people have the time to play a huge amount of JRPG + other ganes?
Well I assume most of us played all these RPGs back when we were kids and thus had a lot more free time.
Otherwise, probably no lifers.
i work from home and never, EVER do my job. My social life consists of just hooking up with girls from dating apps. So I have lots of time to do my job, read, and stay in shape
Boobs
Oh no. The balloon.
rip balloon
here, have a cute dog instead
1&2 aged terribly, 3 is pure kino, 4 is one of the worst JRPGs I've ever played. 5 looked cool but it was on the tail end of the PS2 era and I moved on to X360
>aged terribly
fr fr no cap they weren't bussin on god
bump
Was that game series just a love letter to The good the bad and the ugly?
i havent played a single one, which one should I play?
3 or 2.
1
You don't want to play all of them so you can lord over others with your fully formed opinions about a niche game people hardly recall?
im gonna be honest theres waaaaay too many games i wanna play
>start with 4
>then play 2
>take a break and play XF
>then 3
>then 1
>5 for last
I started with 3 and then played the others, 4 and 5 are really different from 1~3 with the hex combat but aren’t too bad
pretty cool series. I haven't played them in a long time though. I should give them and the breath of fire series a replay.
I fucking loved 5 when I played it at like 13 but holy shit trying to replay it again that first section up until Avril is really hard to get through, feels like the most generic anime ever with the dub.
the series became shovelware after 2, but the first two were riding that line pretty close already
>the series became shovelware after 2
I actually pity you
That anon is clearly a retard only retards would call them shovelware
they are shovelware jrpgs
sope seethe and dilate, autistic trannies
Alter Code F > PSX
Bad game.
Explain
Steam release when?
Do I have to play these in order? Or can I pick up wherever?
RiP melody
I played them all when they first came out and I was younger. I thought Zed was the coolest, and I liked him a lot. (I will not spoil)