Where were you when the Trove was kill?

Where were you when the Trove was kill?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can find just about any pdf you might want by just searching "book name" and "pdf" into google.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, sure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just use my kindle tablet as a sacrificial lamb to find the pdfs. Sketchy ass shithole sites to hell and back but they've still given me my pdfs on the Biafran war. Never going to plug that kindle into my PC and not just because I lost the cord for it, nor put any kind of credit card info on it.

        I will say it feels a bit harder to find stuff now than in the past but thatm ight just be that I am less willing to gamble on links.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eh its a bit more convenient, sure there is Da Archive, but megas get deleted all the time so its kind annoying

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But what about the obscure shit, like the stuff maybe as dozen autistic doeks bought in the 80s that showed a glint of an areola on an animated deity.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i found this board and Ganker in general by my autistic, "Terran Trade Authority PDFs" search. Now... du hast mich, bitches!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.sjsu.edu/people/mary.pickering/courses/His146/s1/MeinKampfpartone0001.pdf
      Whatdya know it works.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Manheims translation is one of the worst. The lastest one by Dalton who worked ob the original stalag is best.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        which edition of the game is that?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neinth edition, obviously

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do these people really think people are going to buy random indie games on a whim just to check them out? Because that's what 99% of the books i pirate end up being - i scroll through them quickly and never look at them again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember some years ago an eu report being suppressed exactly because the conclusion was that piracy not only didn't harm sales but even helped with mouth-to-mouth marketing in some specific cases

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's part of why people don't talk about Minecraft's rise to success.
        Or if they do they only talk about how YouTubers pushed it, despite the fact it saw massive numbers for an indie shit with no marketing budget well before anyone of note talked about it.
        All because Notch openly pushed the idea that for every one person who pirates, three other people will hear about it, and if even one of those four buys it, that's a profit to him, so why fight piracy?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When I was in school there was a kid who had a cracked copy on a USB, it spread to everyone pretty quickly, and after a few years probably about 3/4s of them bought it, with me being one of those people who heard about it and now owns it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mouth-to-mouth marketing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In whose interest would it be to suppress that?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Big music industry conglomerates, who are almost always behind "anti-piracy measures" that actually allow them to monopolise more easily and put the squeeze on customers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And put the squeeze on vendors as well
            >You can get the distribution contract for our product
            >But you have to buy our anti piracy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These are peoole funded by tax dollars to stop piracy kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How is it suppressed if that's common knowledge, gay?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nta, but it had to be leaked because they were suppressing it or trying to suppress it anyway.

          But you smell like a bootlicking gay anyways so fuck you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ooooh! It was LEAKED! Much suppressed, very censored.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If we read your post without sarcasm then yes, there was very much an attempt to suppress the information and conclusions of this study. Luckily for the majority of people the attempt mostly failed.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stroke or just a cocksucking retard?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because is already being debunked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The study was ordered based on the understanding that "piracy=lost sales". They actually expected and hoped for that result. So when reality didn't align with their expectations the lobbying groups and officials sucking up to them tried to bury the study, however failing to do it completely. After that the IP industry has steered clear of any real scientific studies on the matter as it exposes their bullshit. Or should I say our bullshit as I work in IP law. It pays the bills.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People like Daniel Fox don't think.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean... I do but I also browse /tg/ proving I am an insane deviant

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously, it's insane to think that thousands of people will agree to pay you somewhere between $15 and $30 on a whim to see if concept pitch of your game is actually backed up by solid mechanics, or is written above a third-grade level. I have never bought a rulebook for a game I haven't played at least 12 sessions of because I want to know I'm going to get some use out of it - or at least that I actually want to support the creators of a game I like. Physical copies of rulebooks also makes telling family what they should get you for birthday/Christmas gifts easy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This why DnD hard to fail or even have serious competitors

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not "these people"; the Zweihander developer is known for being a particular douche. Which is hilarious considering he stole his entire game from GW.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He somehow managed to make it worse.
        Dan "these halflings need more sexual assault" Fox is the kind of person who would bash in a child's lemonade stand if he thought it was cutting into his sales and he could get away with it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          please elaborate on this moniker because it sounds like a hilarious story

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've bought a bunch of random indie RPGs at cons on a whim. I've usually regretted it more often than not.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, they expect you to crowdfund them and overpay for the books. Just because.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do these people really think people are going to buy random indie games on a whim just to check them out?
      I've done that with a few games. Though, whenever I did it was only after thumbing through them at the store.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’ve bought a few for use as art reference books. The two Morkborg books and Shadow of the Demon Lord come to mind, but there’s also just a buttload of crappy games at the $20 level with just ok art I’ve wasted shillings on too

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These people really think they're persecuted heroes for selling a plagiarized copy of play-pretend rules.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How's the internship?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trove is back though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      link?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sent, Daniel 😉

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here you go. See pic related.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Edit: nvm found it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where would one find it, for research purposes.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trove was doomed as soon as they decided to make a twitter account to "build a community." Offering piracy is one thing constantly shouting it from the rooftops, including directly at the people you are pirating from is another. Nothing of value was lost

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a discord chud responsible for that monumental retardation

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Completely unsurprising.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've always said and I will always continue to say that people who choose to use twitter are insane and should probably be locked up in mental asylums until we can figure out what the hell is going on, or rather going wrong with their brains.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was Danny boy

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    somehow the internet archive is immune to this sorts of thing
    if you don't mind it being dog shit slow you can get just about anything there
    even nintendo couldn't get their roms off there

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >even nintendo couldn't get their roms off there
      But they did?
      https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/06/nintendo-power-scans-disappeared-from-the-internet-archive/

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Trove has been devoid of books anyone actually wants for several years. There seems to have been a recent uptick in users of this board that don't know where this board keeps its PDFs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Quiet, you. They don't need to know.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is pretty funny though.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    But if piracy helps sales, wouldn't it be on the best interest of everyone to encourage it (garden gnomes included)? What do they gain from suppressing it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because retarded copyright laws punish companies that don't aggressively defend their IP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      try before you buy only works for good products

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's antithetical to the mindset of anyone running a corporation. Next you'll be expecting them to allow emulation and 4-day workweeks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First, some people like control for its own sake, even at the cost of, uh, money.

      Second, it's hard for boomers to understand the idea that piracy represents free advertising rather than lost sales. They're not used to such large, open markets; they imagine that the customer's options are "buy D&D" or "don't buy D&D", not "holy fuck which of the 300 games do I buy?!"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same reason game demos stopped.
      Game demos have one of four major categories
      >Demo is shit
      No one buys the game
      >Demo is good
      People who were interested in the game now see that it's not for them and don't buy it
      >Demo is good
      People are satisfied just replaying the demo instead of buying the full game
      >Demo is good
      People buy the game off of the good demo.

      In three of those cases, actual Dev time and dedication to making a good product go into making the demo.
      In three of those cases, people end up not buying the game.

      While you have some developers who point out that 1 in 4 people buying a game is still a lot of fucking people giving you a lot of fucking money, when it comes to games that have a marketing budget bigger than the development budget, the corporate clowns at the top don't find that acceptable. To the clowns anything that potentially loses money is actually lost money, and since piracy gives people the opportunity to find out that they don't like a product before they bought it, that's actually lost money.

      Or as

      try before you buy only works for good products

      said. The idea of being able to know what you're buying before you pay for it only benefits quality products, and most people in any industry just want money for the barest amount of work. This is why it surprises people to learn a considerable amount of people in the RPG industry in the 80s and 90s actually had other sources of income or wealth, because the idea that most of them designed RPGs without being able to make a living wage off of doing it is insane to many modern people.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >actual Dev time and dedication to making a good product go into making the demo
        Not necessarily. They could just do a time trial which takes almost no effort to make. Even just making the demo a single level or boss takes no effort.

        >In three of those cases, people end up not buying the game.
        That's like saying in 50% of cases people choose to either buy or not buy the game which means 50% of the time people don't buy the game so we shouldn't even make the game. Your reasoning is on the basis of assumptions and flawed.

        Demos were marketing tools that happened to be helpful for consumers. It is an outdated marketing tool as most retards will now buy shit without investigation so long as traditional marketing is strong enough.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The last line is true also today

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In Trove, downloading it. That's why it continues to exist. Just not within Daniel's reach.

      It was largely video game publishers and film studios behind the suppression. Two entities known for producing copious amounts of shit to hide the handful of gems.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It was largely video game publishers and film studios behind the suppression. Two entities known for producing copious amounts of shit to hide the handful of gems.

        Good theory except it's completely wrong, zoomer.

        It was music companies. The movie studios helped a bit, but it was 99% music companies. At the time shit went down and we got the glory of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, DRM was making people look up words in a manual, and bandwidth was way too low for people to pirate films in volume.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Music is the only media industry that has already lost, though. People largely don't pirate music at all because it's not worth your time to. It's all available on YT or Spotify or w/e

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No they didn't lose, they just realized that data was FAR more valuable than trackless sales. Spotify is free (with ads) because all the music producers get a stupid amount of data from it. Most normies link their Facebook to it so you instantly know: Their Age, Their Education, Their Gender, Their Family Status along with all the music they listen to.

            You can use this to then craft the perfect boring music for the average 20 year old girl without having to waste time with focus groups.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So you're telling me that music companies decided it's worth it to give their music for free in order to collect people's data that they can process in order to make more targeted music that they can give for free? Checks out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > It's all available on YT or Spotify or w/e

            Yes, in Anno Domini MMXXIII.

            In 1998, there was none of that. There was Napster and Kazaa and some record labels who didn't understand that, yes, piracy actually was a form of advertising because there were like 3 mp3 players on the market and CD burners were expensive, so most people would just buy a CD to listen to on the go.

            Anyway, the point is that while yes, today anti-piracy is being driven by TV studios (more than movie studios) and game publishers, the suppression started with music. Disney is just following in well-trod footsteps.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Netflix greatly reduced the "need" for piracy (like spotify did) until other streaming services started taking their share of exclusive content online again, resulting in a situation where piracy is again more convenient than having 10 different streaming service subscriptions. Luckily there is vpn. The market wins.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As a complete idiot looking in what it looks like is it's ultimately a battle over the levers of convenience. The big corps and industry leaders invest all their resources in developing models to profit on the delivery of their goods only for those mechanisms to become outpaced by more efficient mechanisms faster than the industry leaders can monetize them and trying to leverage government controls to protect the delivery mechanisms they've invested in.

                This could be reflected in amazon's track record of explosive success in growth as Amazon has taken charge of developing it's own delivery infrastructure (both literal physical delivery and the development of tools and platforms for digital delivery) for the goods they sell where as most legacy entertainment industries existed parasitic to technological and economic systems following after them rather than pushing for their own platforms.
                Disney did not invent and control the VHS market the way Amazon developed the e-reader market.

                But I'm ignorant of almost everything I'm talking about so I am open to being entirely wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are selling yourself short; you are pretty much spot on. The biggest "selling point" for piracy has always been availability and convenience, not price.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are selling yourself short; you are pretty much spot on. The biggest "selling point" for piracy has always been availability and convenience, not price.

                People actually enjoy supporting companies/artists that produce quality content when they feel the business model or pricing are not predatory.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Netflix was great for users and great for Netflix, but it made all of the other companies feel like they were leaving money on the table. And they were probably right. Most people subscribe to more than one streaming service.

                I personally stopped pirating after I got a Netflix subscription, even back when it was still on DVDs that you mailed back and forth, but the modern market has too many providers. It isn't even about paying more, necessarily. It's about having to check 5 services to find the show I want, and sometimes it isn't available at all because Disney is locked in a battle with Warner Brothers over who owns the streaming rights.

                At least these days there's great private trackers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >great
                >private trackers
                Pick one.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's because they realized it worked to get constant money, vs. the small amount off a single or cd sale. The way the music industry worked is you get an artist, and they release 2 songs packed onto a single for 5-10 bucks, then a month or 2 down the road, release a 3rd song which is on their full album with the other 2. If you're lucky, the full album was worth it, if not you basically paid 10-20 bucks for another song. Music company makes 30% of each sale, the artist 6%. But they only make that once. By using monetized Youtube and Spotify, they make money each time the song is played, and it means if an album is awful, except one song, they still can easily profit on it. Artists don't much care, they want you to come to the shows and buy merchandise, so sales no longer concern them.

            Take Metallica, St. Anger was agreed by most to be a bad album overall, with a few regular Metallica songs frontloaded, then a bunch of instrumentals. If you look on Spotify right now, the title song sits at 71 million plays, the other normal Metallica ones around 20 million, and the instrumentals at 7 million. The album only sold six million copies, which is better than a few of their albums, but only half of their most popular ones.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >That's because they realized it worked to get constant money, vs. the small amount off a single or cd sale

              I think music moving to streaming was more that they realized that the current model wasn't working. We joke about "radio on the internet", but at the time, but Broadcast.com was a revolution.

              As MP3 players became more and more popular, and then smartphones, music companies realized that their options were go digital or die in the face of piracy. They ended up (I think more by chance than anything) getting behind a model that was more convenient for users than wading through multiple filesharing sites, hoping that you don't get a virus (or just different music than you were hoping for).

              Make no mistake, streaming generates way less money than vinyl, tape, or CD sales. That's part of the reason we see a vinyl revival; it's a way for companies to sell a physical product at a crazy mark-up again. Monetarily, streaming serves as advertising for concerts far more than as a source of income in its own right.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You seem to have unfortunately convinced yourself that large corporations are unfeeling, rational machines that seek only to maximize profit.
      This is untrue, large companies see profit as a sort of ideology, as a religion, which means that they've created certain dogmas about how it is best to be served and what is and isn't heresy. But these dogmas are not perfectly rational, they're largely intuitive and based on trueism and 'Just-So' stories.

      Piracy isn't bad because it hurts profits, it's bad because it offends the Bean Counter's Creed. To them it is taken as a matter of course that capitalism is 100% a game of Us vs Them. If the little guy gets a win then it must as a matter of course mean that they, as the opposing side, have been injured.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Underrated post. Well put.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Very good post

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        But if piracy helps sales, wouldn't it be on the best interest of everyone to encourage it (garden gnomes included)? What do they gain from suppressing it?

        https://i.imgur.com/ANLXRGG.png

        Where were you when the Trove was kill?

        A lot of people doing business these days are literally business illiterate.
        The anon summed it up perfectly. It's a bean-counter substitute regligion.
        In reality for smaller game systems piracy is their way to blow up, trying to shut that down is basically strangling one of the few ways you get out there.
        Corporations have to pay MILLIONS in influencer outreach (formerly known as advertisement) if your shitty 3rd party indie rpg/tabletop system blows up via piracy you're basically getting something for free that the big guys pay MILLIONS to fake (word of mouth propaganda). Turning "business" into a academic subject was a mistake, because you attract the kind of dogmatic autists that should never do business without a guardian in the first place.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like 90% of people doing a business degree are doing so because they have no fucking clue what kind of degree to get.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like 90% of people doing a business degree are doing so because they have no fucking clue what kind of degree to get.

          Everything I hear about business degree graduates makes me more grateful that I chose an education that put me in the public sector. Meanwhile, my sister has been regaling me with stories about the business she works at getting gradually infested with them, and it legit sounds like getting subverted by a cult.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >legit sounds like getting subverted by a cult.

            Honestly, it can be like that sometimes. B school grads and especially MBAs have a particularly way of thinking drilled into them. It's similar to how engineering school works, except that engineers are taught to be careful and methodical whereas b school grads are taught that everyone is trying to screw them and the solution is to screw the other person first.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The most insidious part of it is that they've ended the practice of promoting experienced workers to management, instead exclusively hiring other business grads for those higher positions. It's led to management becoming completely disconnected from their staff, and increasingly clueless about how their business actually operates (in addition to disincentivising their staff from doing anything more than the bare minimum, since working their way up the ladder is no longer an option for them).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Retarded post. The truth is that a lot of suits, especially in big companies with too many cooks in the kitchen, are just retarded and shortsighted. But the thing is that they don't have to be anything else if they're already the market leader, or still a big fish. They need to preserve the system that got them their capital to begin with. So when they see piracy they're dumb enough to think it does equate to literal theft, and hurting their bottom line, and they don't even need to consider the positives it might have for the market overall since they're still raking in a billion dollars or whatever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh they do. Who do you think owns ads on torrent sites? lmfao. They don't even have to pay royalties... it goes straight to the garden gnomes' pockets

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're allowed to know a product is shit before buying it they're losing money.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dogma.
      Its for the same reason that people believe that Diversity magically makes things better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Picture this: you write your own grim-fantasy rpg, you market it as being revolutionary, completely new, superior in every way than the competitors...

      It's gonna hurt your sales when people can download your Zweihander and realize it is dipship and worse than WFRP2 in every way BEFORE they pay you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is bair zweihander is amazing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, Daniel.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Big swords are better than big hammers this is just science it's not my fault your dumb

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Supremacy, the corpo class do not seek profit at all cost, they instead seek class supremacy over all you menials though profit. It's best not to analyze the rich as seeking wealth but rather seeking a wealth gap, cause if their wealth didn't set them apart from the poor what would be the point of it? If a policy made them an extra 2000 a year, but it made eveyone else the same, they would not care, but a policy that cuts their profits 10 and everyone else's by 1000 the would jump for.

      This is why they are so doggedly anti piracy even though it helps them, cause it raises the standard of living for the destitute by giving them access to a product for free. Same for why they fought off the 4 day work week, minimum wage increasing with inflation, or why it took COVID to make working from home a standard practice. They are not profit motivated, they are wealth supremacy motivated, and they personally hate you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This anon gets it. Money is just a tool. It's not about prosperity, but about power and being able to look down upon the little people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The sorts of people who run giant companies are not the sorts of people willing to admit that they are wrong. I hate to use someone who is now a political figure as an example, but can you imagine Donald Trump finding out about a paper that reveals that cheaters in casinos actually increase profits, and then him deciding to inform all his casino managers to relax on cheating?
      Like any other boomer businessman, he would disregard the paper without reading it, suppress it, and tighten his grip even harder.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i was already on the fence for the complicated rules and the pain in the ass about mostly permanent damage, but when i saw the developer pull this bullshit, that definitely turned me off his system.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s an overwrought system developed (read: stolen and embellished) by a deHispanicable character. DFox is the intersection of virtue-signaling leftist drone and guileless, money-grubbing robber baron. I don’t know how his head doesn’t explode trying contain this conflict. I expect he’s a deeply unhappy person which is why he revels in destroying other peoples’ fun.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trove always had shitty file organization, but I really wonder what kind of gay creates these Vault torrents. I wanted to download some OSE stuff, but its books are spread across six different folders.
    >D&D>1st Edition>3rd Party
    >Old School Revival (OSR(ic))>Old-School Essentials BX Essentials
    >Old School Revival (OSR(ic))>Old-School Essentials; BX Essentials
    >Old-School Essentials BX Essentials
    >Old-School Essentials; BX Essentials
    >OSR(ic)>>Old-School Essentials; BX Essentials
    It gets worse and worse with every iteration and there are tons of duplicates. Can't some better-functioning autist do this job?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats an inherent problem with the nature of torrents. Say you take all of those 6 folders and combine them into one. Congratulations, your torrent now has 7 folders.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's that different autists own different sections. It can be a real pain. I wish we just had normal file by file systems.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Autists and their petty fiefdoms, you know how it be.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Different people organize stuff in different way

      if something has A LOT of books on it, like OSR, while lacking any officially recognized categorization we inhevitably will have differently organizaed (sometimes in a retarded way) torrents

      • 3 weeks ago
        Bytee

        Trove always had shitty file organization, but I really wonder what kind of gay creates these Vault torrents. I wanted to download some OSE stuff, but its books are spread across six different folders.
        >D&D>1st Edition>3rd Party
        >Old School Revival (OSR(ic))>Old-School Essentials BX Essentials
        >Old School Revival (OSR(ic))>Old-School Essentials; BX Essentials
        >Old-School Essentials BX Essentials
        >Old-School Essentials; BX Essentials
        >OSR(ic)>>Old-School Essentials; BX Essentials
        It gets worse and worse with every iteration and there are tons of duplicates. Can't some better-functioning autist do this job?

        When the Trove imported O-S-R, they attempted to merge my folder structure into their existing one. Badly.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    techlet here
    How did he even get the Trove shut down if it was hosted where DMCAs don't do anything?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hosting doesn't matter anymore, you need to run your shit through DDOS protection like cloudflare otherwise your website will be taken offline by skiddies.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Piracy hurts people and corporations
    How do these NPCs actually exist?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It'll be back. Polesmokers like Fox are an inconvenience, not a real threat.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was just recently mentioned on The Guardian though, kek. https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/jan/12/dungeons-and-dragons-wizards-of-the-coast-ogl

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Danny Boy was the one who created the Twitter and advertised it-- to get it attention to shut it down

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shoutout to the Sharethread, and to Soulseek. Keep rocking. Hurt RPG makers more.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Backing it up, and researching on cheap SAS disk that goes for $4/TB.

    For reference the original Trove was around 3.5TB, before it was took down, and in comparison the PDF share thread here was 2.2TB (although trove had various assets like videos that bulked it up).

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The funniest thing about that tweet is that Zweihander is actually one of the RPGs available on the Internet Archive’s backup of The Trove.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Danny Boy also praised Internet Archive as the "right" way to preserve games. Very clever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Danny Boy also praised Internet Archive as the "right" way to preserve games. Very clever.
        gays like that are what is going to get the IA shut down. Christ on a crutch that's all those stupid cunts on Ganker go on about. Sure, let's just fuck over a massive form of archived content all because these dumb gays don't understand that opsec is essential. I hope that the gay in the OP image gets a terminal case of syphilis, but lives a long and unbearably painful life with it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Danny Boy also praised Internet Archive as the "right" way to preserve games. Very clever.
        gays like that are what is going to get the IA shut down. Christ on a crutch that's all those stupid cunts on Ganker go on about. Sure, let's just fuck over a massive form of archived content all because these dumb gays don't understand that opsec is essential. I hope that the gay in the OP image gets a terminal case of syphilis, but lives a long and unbearably painful life with it.

        I hate these gays so much it's unreal. Just shut the fuck up. They can't just be satisfied having it online there; they have to shout it out to the world too.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good. You wouldn't download a car.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes I would.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would and if my 3D printer were large enough, I'd print it too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No! The only thing you're allowed to print at home is AR 15 upper receivers!

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Trove got shut down
    again?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was my reaction too.
      As afar as I knew, they had been shut down for a long ass time now.
      I've been using the torrent and other places ever since.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    let's hurt indie RPG makers died and became a ghost?
    I didn't even know he was sick.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these retards not realize no one is just going to randomly buy their books?
    Piracy helps in that people can actually demo it.
    The only time I buy something without pirating is if I know the developer has a good track record.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do these retards not realize no one is just going to randomly buy their books?

      For this guy at least, it's because his book is the best game book ever to be written and printed, and it's obvious just by looking at the cover art. It's got a crossbow, it's got a dude with an eyepatch, it has a blonde chick...who could look at this masterpiece of cover art, gently crowned by the best of names, concise but complete, evocative but down-to-Earth...

      Who could look upon this and not immediately be moved to part with their hard-won simoleons?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish the Trove still existed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he says
      >while posting on /tg/
      Am I being rused?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The answer is closer than you think, anon. Just take one look at the catalogue.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all those glowies trying to get Trove deleted again

    If you can't have the mental capacity to find it, you don't deserve it.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There was a time when 'deliberately provoking Ganker' led to people being builled until the FBI sting they were a part of was uncovered, ruining years of work and driving them into a nervous breakdown.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >discord chud wanted to get more attention
    >makes a twitter account
    >attention now suddenly spikes and gets in the radar of IP lawyer morons
    discord was a mistake
    discord users are a mistake
    stay in the shade, out of people's eyes, let it be known only through word of mouth.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Daniel, you're too obvious in these threads. Put your FAS kid to bed and get off the internet for the night.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sleeping off a bender in a dumpster behind my local Kinkos...

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was buying one man pay what you want rpg on drivethru.
    Daniel come in
    "Trove is kill"
    "Still not buying zweihander"

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good thing i grabbed all the Schwab books when I had the chance...

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reading on the trove, so fairly annoyed

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who gives a shit about the Trove? It's just a worse version of the share thread. In fact when the Trove started it was literally just a flashed version of a few share thread repositories.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Share thread
      Worst general on the board.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. retard that doesn't know how to use the Share Thread

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I found a dude online who will print out and hard bind books for me for a little less than $10 a piece. Over the last year and a half I have created and given away 11 copies of this man's game two people for free

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blessed 110 dollar plus shipping & handling spite based fa/tg/uy. You're propagating his product but at least it's a form of denied sale as protest. He likely wouldn't have been able to make a sale to the people you hooked up with the "counterfeit" versions anyways but it's the devilish thought that counts.

      Imagine if the paths of those that received your fine gifted bootlegs ever cross that of Fox at a convention perhaps even a game he himself is running to promote his product. May your cockles always be comfortably warmed by the infernal residues of that author's self righteous rage.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have been waiting for a convention to come to town that he attends, just so I can try to get him to autograph a counterfeit copy. I am petty and spiteful.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I am petty and spiteful.

          No BootlegAnon you put your money where your mouth was and elevated Fox's work to something your gifted friends would bother interacting with. That labor, innovation and scheming could cause David D Fox malding but it also gives him an opportunity to learn and be a better man. He won't of course, people don't change unless there's pain to teach and in this case there will be a 87361490 Anon shaped splinter beneath Fox's thumbnail for this piracy parable.

          So I guess you're those things but you're also vengefully generous.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks bud. I learned early on the best way to deal with your feelings is to actually do something about them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My friend has negative interest in Zweihander and he downloaded the PDFs from Internet Archive as soon as he learned about this debacle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I printed off a spiral bound copy on my department printer and left it in the RPG collection of my university's tabletop gaming club. The only time I've seen people interested in the shit was due to the binding. The other spiral bound books are usually homebrew systems.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If this was his Daniel D Fox's 5th dimensional cosmic brain plot to have people distribute his work in revenge for his previous copyright infringement puritanism then mission sorta accomplished? Would be amusing to insert a byline of "Thanks to all my friends at the defunct Trove you'll be sorely missed" in the credit page to distinguish further the buccaneer copies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >750 page spiral bound
        D for doubt

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