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The one that doesn't turn you into a mentally ill freak of nature.
Are you guys fighting to see who's the biggest gay?
I like to think it's a single person falseflagging both sides for Yous
they already play mmos in the year 2023 so it's them, both of them, all of the time.
Real question, why are there so many trannies in this game? Like a disproportionate ungodly amount of them.
Because they're popular MMOs. That's the genuine answer. MMOs are a breeding ground for trannies because it lets them have access to a social space without them being automatically ostracized for being trannies.
It's the same thing for MMOs like VRChat.
Also, it's the NA servers that are like this. You don't see trannies on EU or JP.
>You don't see trannies on EU
Correct, thats because European players might as well not exist. Their entire continent is pozzed.
i see trannies every day on chaos
It's the perfect breeding ground without the devs even realizing it.
>game offers a pretty good degree of character customization so you can express yourself how you see fit
>most of the male options are kinda lame so even if you're a guy irl there's a big chance you'll pick a female character
>the story places a lot of emphasis on your character who's also the ultimate self-insert, so you end up getting attached to them pretty easily
>players will often compliment you if you have a good outfit or appearance in general and even offer to RP or ERP with you
After a while it becomes easy to "identify" with your character since both the story and the real life players keep putting her on such a pedestal, and because you want that same level of gratification to carry over into other aspects of your life you try your best to fit into that persona irl, which includes trooning out to match the gender.
It's the perfect storm.
WoW doesn't really have this issue cause it has male options that are a lot more appealing and most of the women look like garbage, plus the customization isn't nearly as in-depth.
It doesn't have the problem because the whole game looks like garbage and no one, especially the devs, care about the story.
Your opinions shouldn’t be stated as facts.
>the story places a lot of emphasis on your character who's also the ultimate self-insert,
maybe for the first 2 and a half expansions but after that it's odd seeing my lala healer act brawny and smug
>WoW doesn't have this issue
lol 58% of the players are BE "girls" in WoW
Reality is gaming is full of trannies now because trannies are a result of autism and the hobby is full of autists so 2+2=4
>plus the customization isn't nearly as in-depth.
What the frick is "in depth" about a breast slider
Well you can pick more than 6 hair colors and your eye color isn't tied to the kind of face you use.
You also have like 80 hairstyle options and gear is a lot more intricate and easy to mesh together so you can craft a look unique to you rather than just using whole gearsets.
I fricking hate transmog and the new models, but WoW literally has everything you just tried to use as a one up outside of the hyperbolic hairstyles, which don't matter anyway since everyone uses the same 10.
No it doesn't, dude you can check XIV character' creator in the benchmark. WoW doesn't compare
Hey that's cool but you're wrong.
https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room
Looks like garbage
https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/glamours
>male dorf
SOUL
hey you accidentally posted a website to some troony thing just so you know
FFXIV dwarves mog WoW ones
looks like a moronic garden gnome
LMAO
Into the pot you go.
SOVL
No it doesn't? Unless it changed with Dragonflight then you can boot up WoW right now and see that eye color is still tied to your face model. Hair color customization is also pretty in depth.
Also
>hyperbole
>THERE ARE SO MANY OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM as long as you play this specific race
Not that the race locked hairstyles matter though since as I said "everyone uses the same 10."
I've seen almost every hairstyle in the game get use outside of meme shit like lalafell cornrows or the weird bald topknot.
It's just an example of how much the game allows for player expressiveness through your character.
The one aspect where I'll concede WoW trumps XIV is race variety, the fact that every XIV race is just mutant humans is lame but I'd say it's a good trade-off for the amount of customization in the game.
The one time they added a non-human race they couldn't even change hairstyles.
You are in full delusion mode. Stop making me prove your dumbass wrong.
Ok so they DID add more options since Legion and BfA.
I'll concede that it's way better now, but it still doesn't match XIV.
You're right, it exceeds XIV.
Right.
>male options
you mean body type 1 options you bigot
Why can't I remove body type 2's shirt?
>anime mmo
>troons love anime
Oh look, Pint did this shit before touching FFXIV. Shocking.
>wowtroony keeps pictures of his fellow trannies on his pc
color me a surprise
its the Ganker equivalent of the hard right republican getting caught with an exabyte of gay porn. "i-i just had it to own the other team online!".
Sure you did bud.
>xivtroony is also a leftoid
back to resetera Black person
You took that long and this is the best comeback you could think of? lmao
So, neither? I have never met anyone that played MMOs and wasn't severely mentally damaged by the experience.
Why do WoWtrannies make this argument when you literally have a dev and main characters at the forefront of the game/story. FFXIV dosent have a single troony character nor troony dev.
because every pixel and player in jap troony game is troony
I guess if this the cope you want to cling to WoWtroony more power to you sistah and your transition. I know you cling to WoW since it has named trans characters relavent to the story while FF has none. Too bad there is no magic in this world and thus YWNBAW.
Flamboyant as he is, remember he has a loving catgirl assistant always by his side.
>cross-dressing jokes
>troony shit
ok, now you're just grasping at straws
we won sis.. we..-ACK
>Still cant name a single trans character
Goddamn sistah you know you can enjoy FF even though it dosent have one of your own in it. Or go back to your troony riddled game.
the pixies are trannies
In your dreams troony homosexual
>posts fan art to cope
what about these gays?
>literally nameless dudes
Meanwhile in WoW you have Thomas and Miguel you visit every single week.
kys troon
its over
Localization + they're just gays not trannies
still no troony in sight
>No Feo Ul statue
this and an aetheryte lamp are the two things i want form SE.
trannies hate hildibrand and call it transphobic
making fun of crossdressing is not troonyism
holy shit, they put in wow devs as npcs? as tribute to wow?
Sex with Pint
nah its just the western server with mmo nesting all kinds of mental illness, everything is cool here in tonberry server
Stop playing MMORPGS.
spam is against the rules
>which is superior
>WoW or Japanese WoW
They both suck ass
>WoW
troony devs that hate their players
>XIV
Devs that see their troony players as easy income
Incel to incel
Does this person really think he's a girl? Because not even that amount of photoship makes him look like a girl.
MMORPGs suckkkk
Both decent games for raiding, everything else is braindead garbage. You need to put more time in WoW when it comes to raidlogging but that's about it.
Go hard in both.
for me.... it's mabinogi
>playing an mmo for raiding and endgame trash
loma
Casual dogshit Black person homosexuals like you should be publicly executed. Go buy barbie dolls and dress them up. MMORPGs completely dropped the roleplaying, it's all about the numbers.
Imagine thinking raidlogging and dungeon spamming is what MMORPGs were all about.
The truth is the only RPG in MMORPG was larping with other homosexuals online because you dont do any roleplaying in an MMO, you just make number go up. The larping and interaction with other homosexuals stopped when the internet became a common household name and it was no longer a fun experience to meet hundreds of homosexuals in an online space.
Imagine thinking text chatting was what MMORPGs are about. You are the cancer killing video games.
go back to daoc or whatever dead game you love
>mabinogi
Soulless husk thoroughly assraped by Nexon and greedy Korean merchants to the point that I have no respect for anyone still playing it. That theme song still makes me tear up a little though, good memories.
>text chatting was what MMORPGs are about
Unironically he's right. We had everything we needed to make the best MMO of all time with fricking MUDs.
Both equally trash
Imagine kissing the Y'shtola cosplayer(left) right on the lips.......
God I miss the smell of pretty women.......
Hot races? WoW has Worgens, automatically wins.
Better gameplay and non shit community? FFXIV
WoWs aesthetic is very charming and varied, at least before MoP.
FF is cooler though.
>at least before MoP
filtered
TORtanic unironically. Literally the last half-decent tab targeting MMO
one on the right pegging the one on the left
Final Fantasy 14 is the Best MMO at the moment.
it really isnt, FFXIV is just weeb version of wow
OSRS is better than both
Holy fricking moronic
silence troony
Captcha: GAYGH8
Embarassing taste, anon
Wow, FF xiv never aimed to be big but they got pretty close
If only they had better designers
I hope the changes they are planning for 7.0 and later will pull the game out of the pathetic 2010 state it is in right now. Regardless of what you think of their approach at MMOs, the game needs an overhaul
This man caused WoW's downfall. Whats the secret to his power?
>This man caused WoW's downfall. Whats the secret to his power?
post the edits. they always crack me up
One eye on the prize, the other watching his back.
> This man caused WoW's downfall. Whats the secret to his power?
is that what mcconnell looks like irl ?
hahahaha
hes fat, so he cant climb ladders and he hates stairs. the idea of "up" is foreign to him. the secret to his power is gravity.
One eye observes the present the other glimpses the future
For me, it's FF14. I'm really glad Ganker convinced me to play this game, it was completely off my radar and I've had a fantastic time with it.
>Great story that takes itself seriously and expects you to invest yourself into it. Not just a dumb MMO excuse plot with constant retcons
>Player character actually exists in the world, is known by people and the world reacts to their actions in a way that feels meaningful and logical.
>Enjoyable setting that holds up despite being a ridiculous Pathfinder style "Kitchen Sink" setting
>Varied and likable cast. Only real complaint is that we could use more females within the Scions and less (current) G'raha.
>Not your standard boring "Endless" storytelling. Every question and hook from ARR has been answered and concluded by the time of EW, the story is absolutely complete and everything from here onwards is pretty effectively just a sequel
>Synching and the way FF14 does gear means that no content is ever obsolete, even decade old dungeons and raids are still used
>Absolutely zero gear treadmill, you can be ready for endgame within 5minutes of hitting max level
>All Jobs are viable for all content, which means you can just play whatever you like
etc etc etc
I could go on and on, but FF14 legitimately rekindled the love I had for Final Fantasy that I haven't felt ever since FFX. I'd thought I was completely uninterested in FF at all, but playing it reminded me of how much I enjoyed silly things like Cactuar and Moogles as a child. And the game's been great fun too.
I just want to say that it's nice to see a person posting about how they enjoy video games on here instead of just talking shit about a game or wrapping their like in a cushion of irony because they're afraid they'll be criticized for actually liking a game. Good on you.
I agree bro. Recently started playing myself and seeing that an MMO can be more than a glorified spreadsheet in the year of our lord 2023 is miraculous. Maybe there is hope.
>WoW
better class design
better questing and exploration
better PvP
better netcode
better ESG score
>XIV
better story/narrative
better balance
better fight design
better community
better casual/side content
better graphics
>XIV
>better community
Really makes you think
not really i played WoW till shadowblands came out and its a fricking cesspit of arrested development, main character syndrome and plain selfishness that puts any other games userbase to shame.
That's just how bad the WoW community is. Only ranked queue games like LoL defeat it in having awful communities.
I dropped WoW during warlords when i saw the garrisonshit and saw they were no longer treating the game as an rpg but a mobile game banking on daily retention traps. Picked up FFXIV even though i was wary after the decade of lightning but i was surprised and now have more investment in it than WoW. i have the encyclopedias on my shelf, a grand company flag on my wall, have met up with my FC bros at fan fest and met my wife in game and met her going to see distant worlds in london and even broke the ice with my new boss at the time with my red mage job crystal key chain.
Everyone i know that stuck with WoW are all perma stressed, balding and bitter all the time. Its a misery engine i'm glad i escaped. I hope the bucks on Ganker do someday. Thats no way to live.
>they were no longer treating the game as an rpg but a mobile game banking on daily retention traps
exact same thing happened to xiv, they got rid of all of the franchise staple cross classing mechanics
>playing a dead MMO that only mutts care about
lol at this point WoW is a mutt containment which is a good thing.
>multiple cultist posts just spawned without the poster number going up
You troons really need to go outside.
WoW is a troony game for deluded brainrotted boomers
wow is better because xiv is not even mmo, its a shitty visual novel which is a mix of capeshit, japanese anime tropes and power of friendship
basically marvelslop for weebs
stay mad WoWBlack person
>make an observation
>YOU'RE MAD
cope seethe and dilate
>make an obvious bootyblasted argument
>someone makes fun of you
It is not I that needs to cope, seethe, or dialate. Go back to sucking Kotick's dick.
Bobby Kotick doesn't work on WoW and never has.
kinda ironic considering your tongue is so far up yoshita's bleeding butthole that only special emergency surgery can remove it
>barry still obsessed with yoshi
Rentfree
It's nice to have a development team that cares about the quality of the game they make and do things solely to improve the experience rather than just to maximize profits and player retention. YoshiP deserves the praise he gets.
>outirght telling people to just unsub and play something else
Unironically based
You're a funny little guy. You wish Square Enix and Yoshida gave a single frick about you or the shit they do.
did they fix the nin bug that was present since 6.3 released?
did they fix their abhorring netcode?
did their fix their jarring UI that looks like it was made by an internet in 2001?
did they add an actual endgame in favor of """content""" that dies in hours?
did they fix the janky, boring, cookie clicker but with sparks, mobile tier gameplay island?
did they.......................
Don't you have some cum to suck out of your boyfriend's ass?
I'm not a gay, transgender furry.
Why would i start playing WoW now in 2023? honest question.
Neither. Play HorizonXI. Mithra > shit'qote btw.
Stop shilling your troony server, we aren't paying "server costs" to cover your HRT. Take your scam to /vg/ and don't come back.
>"server costs"
Ninja is paying for the server moron. There's not even a donation link on the website.
mmos are for terminally online mentally ill homosexuals
hah they're both trannies
FFXI
Frick Davoi and searching the storage caches
Yep
>getting PTSD flashbacks
Fun the 1st time, annoying every other time
the only true answer
>be noob
>try ffxi fishing (on the boat, WHY NOT)
>just enough money for a rod and some bait without crying too much
>rod breaks on the first cast
Should've canceled when you got a bad or sinister feeling
It was my very first cast I didn't know
Fair enough
something about FFXI filters me, not sure what. i can play the most painful JRPGs but i can't go through with 11's playstyle, especially as a newcomer to the game
Anons of Ganker, I summon you! Cleanse the thread of these infidels.
Barry get some new spam images, these are ancient and moldy
If we are to compare these two games, WoW is much better. But both games aren't that good and have lost their way.
>WoW is much better.
Bruh I have over 1100 days subbed in XIV and I barely managed s few months on WoW. Don't be a moron. Everything FFXIV does, WoW does much better with the exception of the story and maybe music.
>Has actual raids
>Has actual dungeons with difficulties
>Has actual pvp
>Has a proper transmog system
>Alt friendly
>Account bound progress on a frickton of shit
>Addons are legal
>Pet battles
>Achievements
The only big issue I have with dragonflight is that, much like XIV, there's no end game progression beyond ilvl score. And that fricking sucks.
Bait
I forgot, if you're a piece of shit coomer that loves to ERP then FFXIV is absolutely the game to play since that's all you're going to find people doing.
10/10 falseflag, foxxo. Xiv still mogs WoW
>Has actual raids
So does FF XIV
>Has actual dungeons with difficulties.
FF XIV's hard mode dungeons have different mobs and bosses and aren't just upscaling damage. Also they aren't locked by the endgame.
>Proper transmog system
I don't fricking understand what the frick you mean by that. Doesn't FF XIV have glamours?
>Pvp
Will give you that, but I don't particularly care about pvp.
>Alt friendly
Another way of saying that the only way to play another class is to create an alt and waste your time leveling it up.
>Addons are legal
Another way of saying that the core game is so shit that it expects third parties to cover their asses.
>Pet battles.
FF XIV didn't have that Lord of Verminion thing. Never tried it, but looked more complex. Also pet battle community was dead last time I checked, or was I supposed to join some troony discord?
>Achievements.
Is this really the best you can do?
To me the dealbreaker was that you can enjoy playing and finishing every FF XIV expansion, WoW outright admits that nothing but the endgame matters. You can experience the final bosses of every expansion and find actual players doing that content without needing a legacy server and grind for another fricking alt with everything rolled back to a time where your "alt friendly" bullshit didn't matter.
>WoW outright admits that nothing but the endgame matters.
wrong, current patch 🙂
>I don't fricking understand what the frick you mean by that. Doesn't FF XIV have glamours?
of course you dont, because you dont want to. he's just saying that wow's tmog is miles better than xiv's
>Another way of saying that the core game is so shit that it expects third parties to cover their asses.
funny you mention that when the majority of people use plugins to deal with the atrocious netcode xiv has
>>>Has actual raids
>So does FF XIV
same boring rehashed arena, with 1-2 ultimates per year that are complete rehashes (music, abilities) of previous bosses
the rest you kind of conceded so i wont bother addressing
>wow's tmog is miles better than xiv's
Wows tmog is bodypaint with big shoulders. Wtf are you talking about
the actual method by which items get saved and can be recalled is better
obviously the actual items are not better
NTA, he's talking about the system not the content. FFXIV has modeled gear and dye channels of course the actual gear is better but it has all this fiddling with plates and a glamour dresser where in WoW you just have the item added to your transmog collection as soon as it's bound to you.
>of course you dont, because you dont want to. he's just saying that wow's tmog is miles better than xiv's
How? Mind you I dropped this shit in BfA and I was never really that interested in transmogs to begin with, but for what I remember the mechanics were pretty much the same, you go to a place (transmog party in stormwind/org or any inn room), pay something to make the change, with the option of storing gear to make it just for cosmetic purposes and that was it. That's my question because I genuinely don't understand how one is better than the other in such a way you praise it in the same way as saying pvp is better.
Not even trying to frick with you here, explain it, because I don't fricking understand.
the system. you get the item and you have it. thats it
xiv's engine shits itself if it had wow's transmog thats why its so limited
Amors in WoW are just skin swaps though so what's the point of a transmog system is the armors are just re-dyes?
I mean look at EorzeaCollection, shit is fricking massive
Ultimates are the best MMO PVE content in the entire genre though.
No other game compares to the actual challenge and design provided.
WoW's leading world first raid took 6 whole fricking months to clear a single Ultimate when the hardest raid in WoW takes a 12 hours top.
Ah yes I love the challenge of learning where to stand on the floor like I'm square dancing
>He never alchemized a phoenix
disingenuous c**t. it took 6 months because they were delayed by scripe's kid being born, MDI, static members not being able to attend and had to look for replacements, other irl shit etc.
homosexual. i wouldve taken them max 10 days if they played 10-12 hours everyday
>it only took them 6 months because.....reasons
There's over 900 hours of them streaming the ultimate, cope harder disingenuous Black person
with huge breaks in between and constantly having team members replaced
not to mention they were blind proging despite having less than a year of experience in the game
fatsharkyes is a top ~20 wow guild and they have players with similar experience in ffxiv as echo, they cleared dsr in 12 days because they were consistently raiding and didnt impose blind prog restriction on themselves
>cleared in 12 days by reading guides
Not fair to compare to world firster if you're gonna read a guide though, is it?
99.9999999% of people clearing ultimates are not doing it completely blind
theyre watching other peoples streams and copying/modifying strats, you’d be moronic not to
and they didn’t do it months later they did it from release
If we're comparing world firsts doing blind prog is the only way to make a fair comparison though.
Taking 12 days with a guide when you compare it to world first in 12 hours in WoW is still staggering.
what world first in modern wow has taken 12 hours? and yes even world first clears are doing exactly what i said and not progging the entire fight blind
>what world first in modern wow has taken 12 hours? and yes even world first clears are doing exactly what i said and not progging the entire fight blind
Someone has to do the fight in order for you to copy their strat to actually do world first now?
I'll let you in on a secret anon, you'll never get world first that way.
every mechanic of a fight will be seen and a strategy devised for it before the fight has been killed
it’s called hitting enrage
>muh ultra hard raids
Literally no one gives a frick about super hard raiding, wasting time and resources designed something for the 0.01% is dumb as hell
>wasting resources in actually providing a challenge to players is a waste of time
There's literally nothing wrong with designing hard content as long as you don't focus entirely on said content.
If anything those should be baked in as optional hard modes like Ulduar in WoW, the peak of raid design in any MMO. Raid difficulties and their consequences have been a disaster for the MMORPG genre
>hard modes in WoW
>peak design
No, not really. Ultimates are way ahead, just compare guides if you have never played both games, the quality of design is like comparing heaven and earth.
he’s didn’t say peak difficulty he said peak design, which they are
naturally baked into the encounters and environment not just a difficulty mode you toggle on from a menu
>peak design
>not the design of the fight but just not killing some add to toggle the difficulty increase
Sounds like you have really low standards and no understanding as to what design actually means.
design is naturally integrating the game systems into the world, it’s called immersion
>Ulduar in WoW, the peak of raid design in any MMO
It was cool that you could activate the hard modes through the mechanics, but Ulduar was ultimately pretty braindead. Even Algalon only had like 5 mechanics.
>WoW hard mode have 3-5 mechanics top.
>a Savage trial freaking waifu has 19 mechanics
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/guides/ffxiv-storms-crown-ex-guide/
wew, guess Japan really knows how to properly design hard content, no wonder Dark Souls was so fricking popular
>WoW hard mode have 3-5 mechanics top.
This isn't the case for newer fights, I was talking about a raid from 15 years ago.
Barbara EX was a great EX. We need more fights like that
Rubicante is fine, but Barbara was just better
>a Savage trial freaking waifu has 19 mechanics
Please stop implying savage content is difficult, everything in XIV is so fricking paint by numbers you have to purposely go out of your way to try and frick things up, and no before your dumbass tries to cry and whine calling me a Blizzshill I am not saying WoW is any better I am saying you're blinded by your fricking pointless shitflinging trying to claim X>Y when in reality X=Y.
>didn't even check the guide nor even knows the fight
Actually go check the link and say that again, instead of talking out of your ass
are you implying barb ex is hard? the enrage is a complete joke and the only mechanic I would consider annoying is the final knockback into stack if you don't have competent healers
It's a challenging and fun fight, as Extreme are meant to be.
t. shitter
Black person I've played XIV since 2.0. If you're seriously going to sit there and try to imply rote memorization is difficult you're a fricking moron.
>Please stop implying savage content is difficult,
Post proof that you've cleared a single current savage raid
Sure, send me a free weekend code and I'll reinstall for you.
How do you make phoenix before ego death?
Should be able to answer without googling for 10 minutes.
not him but two unmarked players intentionally get hit with the alpha debuff and combine to make ifrits then they combine with the two players who made greens
savage is really really easy
If you're not him why are you answering?
It's not a question of how easy the mechanic is, it's a question of some guy having no idea about savage shitting on it.
ok well i know about savage and ill shit on it
its extremely easy and yet the playerbase is so bad that they think being handed a square peg and being asked to put it in the correct hole is hard
fights are way too repetitive and throughput checks are way too low
>fights are way too repetitive and throughput checks are way too low
Post your P8s pre-nerf clear.
>pre-nerf
literally proving my point, if you didnt poopsock for the first week you didn’t even get to see the fight at an appropriate difficulty because the devs don’t want difficult throughput checks in the game
>Anon's idea of difficult is broken and imbalanced
Go back to WoW
how was week 1 p8s broken and imbalanced if every single job was still able to clear it?
Because every single job wasn't able to clear it, moron.
yes they were
it's funny how casuals see themselves as different from other casuals because of one week of different values
when one week requires zero deaths and great dps and the next week allows multiple deaths and mediocre dps yes theres a big difference
sure thing, casual
>I totally have p-p-proof
>I'm just not subbed, ok?
Yes.
Can’t you just show your savage clears then?
I think he's implying he has a savage clear because of the asphodelos earrings
But you can get that in normal mode, now if they were color dyed then I would believe him
Anon..
Oh nevermind I misread what you meant. I will Anon.. myself
That's how raids should be thought, in my honest opinion since it's ultimately a very small part of the game.
Why waste too many resources and dev time on it when you will never create new content faster than it's consumed anyway?
>since it's ultimately a very small part of the game.
lmao
You do them once a week, yes they're small moron
>You do them once a week
As opposed to what? Dailies?
There's literally nothing to do in wrath but raiding or braindead chores.
>Why waste too many resources and dev time on it when you will never create new content faster than it's consumed anyway?
Why not? If you're never gonna catch up why not design GOOD shit instead of porkslope with a treadmill?
The average player doesn't give a frick about the mechanics especially after you've done the raid several times or god forbid, multiple months
Just make them real hard and not something you have to grind over and over for months, with weekly lockouts just because frick you pay up your sub.
That shit is outright cancer.
That sounds like an interesting idea but how would that work in an MMORPG environment? The raids provide loot which is ultimate why most people play them
imagine doing your dungeon or whatever and you read this
fricking LMAO
Why do you have these on your computer?
They do it for free while barry is rangebanend
I would rescue that thing into an aoe and i would then leave in the middle of a boss battle.
WoW is not massive anymore, has no roleplay, and is a collection of broken systems that hardly pass as a "game". It's not even comparable.
oh no no no no no ZIV sisters... we better start namedropping our boogeyman like a schizo
How'd Forspoken go
ffxiv players play dress up and erp in their houses they spent 100 hours designing and then claim they're not trannies
ffxiv won
trannies are literally living rent free in your head kek
you will never pass.
Both are as shit as each other
I raid on both. both have shit players
FFXIV is everything bad about post-Cata WoW but leaned in on. In a sense it is better than WoW, but that's only because it does a bunch of shit things slightly better. Played the entire base game and the only things I actually enjoyed were Limsa Lominsa and the fishing minigame.
>better fight design
>recording your PC with a handheld device
Is this the power of MMO gays?
>Change duty difficulty to easy
>Cherrypick example where you play as another character with a simplified rotation
>Act like you made any kind of point
Meanwhile...
that can't be real. this is like a level 20 dungeon or something right?
haha
it was a shadowlands dungeon and you can see by his level that he is 57 out of 70
his class also has a leap where he can jump and land anywhere he desires
All of WoW is like this. Extremely simple childrens mechanics. Except, what makes it feel thrilling and "pro" is your DBM going DING DING DING time to dodge with timers counting down. WoW makes moronic grandmas feel like professional gamers. Like seriously imagine playing FFXIV with WoW's ding dingers & countdowns.
If he just wasn't moving he wouldn't have died..
>better graphics
S0vless vs s0ul
>Barry using loading screens as "ads" now
I too remember when deadmines looked like its loading screen.
XIV won
these catgirls are cute but I am worried if it's a man
second one is a definite biofem
Barry, these pics are so old that the trannies are already dead in them.
WoW has been a mobile game style retention trap masking prestige and time gates as gameplay for most of its lifespan at this point but we got hard confirmation yesterday that the teams are in shambles and being forced to rush out products.
its too late to recommend WoW now. Like Rift its golden era is passed and not coming back: https://twitter.com/BrianBirming/status/1617688557367488512
how much fricking shit does fit into a wowtroony anyway? I mean what kind of subhuman is even still subbed?
esl moment
MODS FOR FRICK SAKE DELETE THIS SHIT, THEY ARE KILLING OUR GAME?!?
>xiv trannies are so mind broken they believe every single anti-xiv post on the whole board is from a single person
>he doesn't have the user ID enabler.
>he's using user ids on an anonymous imageboard
actually mind broken
>anonymous
newbie moment
whatever you say schizo troony
Maybe the anti-xiv people can not act like the same person using the same pictures every single thread
Halone bless GankerX for having imagehash filtering options to spare me from this schizo
Might as well set stub:no
i genuinely cannot imagine being a straight man and being subbed to this dead piece of japanese shit
i honestly cant.
Both are shit.
The fact the people playing FFXIV are saying what they like about the game while the WoW players are autistically shrieking like apes in some weird attempt to sabotage another game they see as a threat instead of singing WoW's praises should tell you everything you need to know.
the whole point of this thread is to provoke shitflinging. nobody is here for a rational discussion, shill
Kind of. It's been pointed out to me that lately wow players just kinda go "Dragonflight is actually good" and that's all they'll say with no reason or qualifiers.
It's as if even the biggest shills realize Dragonflight is a rushed barebones expansion.
dragon flying made the questing experience more enjoyable
the zones are pretty good
talent trees are a huge success
dungeons and raids are on point as always
outdoor content was varied and relevant to preraid gearing
crafting is cool and rewarding
Hi shill
>nobody says why the expansion is good
>say why the expansion is good
>shill!!!
STOP
SAYING
GOOD
THINGS
ABOUT
WOW
ONLY ACK14 IS GOOD CHUD!
Cutting edge raz raider. Most of what he said is just totally false
such as?
Dragon flying is alright but the fact that it wasn’t a blanket change to mounts is horrendous knowing it will be scrapped next expac
Zones are all the same with a new coat of paint on top of them all being copies of a previous expansion zone
Talent trees are the same “you must be meta or you get kicked” as always but way worse because now you can be missing critical abilities
Outdoor content is same chore bullshit since MOP
No one does crafting or work orders except for leveling and trading soulbound items
if next expac doesnt include dragonriding that’s a negative on that, not df
I said the zones were decent not amazing, and thats what they are
talent trees are great because they offer important flexibility that any player with a brain will use, there is no cookie cutter set up for all content that is the best
df had completely untimegated reputation grinds, that’s a first since wotlk
no one does crafting except all of that crafted gear and consumables that everyone is using? what was your point here exactly
post achievement
>muh mmo tribalism
You are both hideous mentally ill trannies.
>WoW
>Full of blackedBlack folk
>FFXIV
>full of "heckin' cute and valid" transbians (incels in skirts)
Both games are shit.
Wow, as a trans female this image makes me feel even more excited to play the game knowing the community is so supportive and accepting of women like me!
>go to one of those FFXIV clubs at a friend's recommendation
>it's just a bunch of cat girls doing /beesknees
>get whispers calling me mommy (I play a female highlander)
>teleport out in disgust
>go work on fishing log instead
FFXIV is pretty kino
>
He looks like he'd be calling a futa viera mommy instead of a thighlander.
Yikes
Runescape lookin kinda bussin fr fr
LE SOUL
>max graphics settings
LE SOULLESS
>minimum graphics settings
At this point XIV feels like the better RPG. There are things you can do thats on the nose but then shit that people can have no idea exists.
Like right now i'm on my Botanist and Miner class going after Ephemeral nodes which only appear at certain times of the day farming collectibles which people usually use to turn in for scripts for crafter and gatherer gear and recipe books.
But if you did quests back in the day and unlocked 'aethereal reduction' you can break those down into crafting mats, some of them which can only be gotten this way and are very desireable for guilds who use them for guild exclusive buffs.
I sell that for gil at my housing plot which i turned into an item shop staffed by my retainer npcs and none of it involves dungeons or raiding.
best i used to get on WoW was afking to craft a bunch of shit then fighting endless botters to make gold for a wow token.
I play XIV and have never heard of this, is this bullshit or real? i've just been selling logs.
Yeah, aethersand has broad uses so it generally sells pretty well right after new crafting/gathering content drops. I've been doing a mix of earthbreak aethersand and gripgel, the gripgel has been doing better numbers for me the past 2 weeks.
probably because you can buy it with the same currency that the relic mat requires so thats starved people of red tomestones right now.
what the frick am i meant to use blue/purple crafter scrips on? i don't need any gear or materia myself.
Materia or immutable solutions. I don't think immutable solution is selling so well though.
MMOs are just shit, avoid them all now. Play other games with your time rather than these time-predatory treadmills with continually dwindling social interaction. If you want to watch numbers get bigger then play Disgaea or an "idle clicker game" or something, not shitty live service games.
Those aren't MMOs.
yes they are
Vanilla WoW > XIV > current WoW
simple as
>It's always the same fricking images
DONE.
>Chai Nuzz is literally an architect.
Do they know?
isnt WoW dead?
the new expansion didn't bring back as many players as they'd hoped for.
Despite the fact that they went HARD this time with the marketing on Twitch
On life support
looks good to me
I wouldn't recommend using mmo population. They pull numbers out of their ass
>accuracy of data
>we made it the frick up
Well, at least they're honest.
kek
>”oh I wonder where he gets his data from”
>I am a long time WoW player
>this data isn’t accurate
Figures
Its used as a training room for new hires before moving them on to D4 or Odyssey.
WHAT THE FRICK DOES A MAX LEVEL PLAYER DO WITH TOMESTONES OF POETICS?!?
I'VE BEEN CAPPED FOR THREE FRICKING YEARS I'M SICK OF GETTING THE POP UP AT IL MHEG DAILIES!
buy potting soil or whatever the frick
Buy ShB gear and turn it in in for GC seals?
I'M CAPPED ON THOSE AS WELL
buy le epic lootboxes and sell the 200 gil pets on the MB, moron
do you not buy the CC lootboxes? they have pets and mounts inside that you can sell
Also this, then trade the seals for Cordials and sell them for Gil.
Your fault for not flipping cordials lol. Made at least
Buy leveling gear for side jobs, buy materia to upgrade that leveling gear, or just sell soil on the market boards.
Buy ilvl530 rings, turn into gc seals, use seals to buy gacha boxes for minions/mounts.
What are gc seals?
GrandCompany
You know, your nation's army
So you can sell poetics gear to them in exchange. I didnt know that was a thing. And do you really have to be a smartass about it i was only asking.
bro your Relic materials?
why can't nu Ganker shut the frick about trannies?
they have to seethe 24/7 to suppress their desire to frick/be one
normal people do not give a single shit
why cant the video game industry shut the frick up about trannies
average ffxiv player
These bots are getting too obvious
lets go back to blaming israelites, who are the ones hiding behind the trannies in the first place.
>people pass items in roulettes
>not greeding everything to raise their desynth for free
I doth lmao in thine general direction mayhaps.
They're both equally dogshit for similar reasons but both sides will claim the other is somehow worse. The only reason they're even pitted against each other is because the MMO market is fricking dead and they're the last two standing.
Is GW1 PvP alive?
>make macro to 100% garuntee HQ logs and can automate it to make stacks with ease
>find log with only a few for sale
>buy out everything for 300gil per log
>put up HQ logs at stacks of 20 for 6k gil per HQ log
>check 2 hours later
>flooded with HQ logs at 1k gil
God damn it.
FFXIV.
It's not even close.
average ffxiv player
each and every one of you is fricking mental and would benefit greatly from unsubbing from this poison immediately
picrealetd is the best MMO.
frick wowtranies and xivsisters.
The only good take in this entire thread
wakfu is breddy gud too
>kys troon its-ACK!
one on the left is a guy, right?
yes
FFXIV no question. For the complaints about its instanced zones its a more complete world. Like how there are actual constellations that are just there till a job was added that uses tarot and astrology to heal and it was expanded on in their lore for example.
Meanwhile the instanced zones means are any point they can add a new location to an existing area without having to alter the existing map. I love the eastern kingdoms but unless they pull a cataclysm duskwood will always be duskwood with nothing new. Meanwhile they can let us see more parts of the south shroud by adding a dungeon or something. Those walls seem off putting at first but in the long run its made the world feel like theres always more that can show up even in locations we think we've seen everything in.
>not a new IP
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF SHILLS
>GCD
Fun for toddlers maybe.
Explain how an mmo is supposed to work without GCD for most of the west.
There's a reason the only "mmos" with "action combat" that come out are in tiny high internet connectivity countries like Japan and Korea.
Western server regions are often bigger than the entirety of Japan/Korea.
9Dragons
Based
>zoomerspeak
That game is older than you, so frick off
stay mad wowjannies
Why am I suddenly seeing images of this gold saucer girl with glasses of piss? Is she an actual NPC?
she's one of the dialogue-bubble NPCs that walks around, her line specifically is "a glass of our vilest piss for you" or something like that
> her line specifically is "a glass of our vilest piss for you"
h-hot
tasty
Forspoken didn't flop.
the one that didn't trannify/Black personfy their entire set of characters just to appease a handful of morons on twitter. the one that didn't just lose half their playerbase by trying to israelite the chinaman. the one that hasn't been on a decade+ downtrend. the one that won't be bankrupt before the MS acquisition takes effect.
>the voices in my head told me ultimate was easier
jej
Doesn't that just mean that they're bad?
who cares about raidBlack folk they acount for 0.5% of the game global population.
>don't talk to me about ultimates because I don't actually know and make assumptions!
Damn, he sure got me.
>people still fall for this shitpost
I hate all of you.
>shitpost
he was just being honest
Honestly mindbroken
But the first 3 bosses of Vault got killed on the first pull?
THE SUN
WILL SHINE AGAIN
WALK ON
NEVER LOOK BACK
>you are the troony
>no you are the troony
mmos are truly the best genre to show why gaming is shit now. The fact you manage to make me second hand embarrassed despite not touching this shit for years is truly a feat.
Can't criticize either game, or compare features of the two games, without the schizos screaming
>troony troony TROON TRANS TROOOONS
It really is a sad state of affairs.
You have it mixed. You first call em trannies and only then ask them why they can't accept critiques. Then call them drones or cultists when you are told to frick off. Works the same for wow and ff players
There is nothing really much to talk about.
Both are nummos, with the moronic mentality of lootmogcheevos and not the focus on the player having a good time with others.
Vanilla WoW is regarded the best in the industry yet it was always a mediocre mmo, but it was extremely good at being a social place for nerds. Now they are just single player games for these absolute weirdos who enjoy having an unpaid amazon warehouse shift. I have watched videos about this and people seem to like this.
when I watched this and read the comments it made my blood boil, but also I'm glad I left this shit. Its the epitome of dunning kruger. Not to mention these were the homosexuals back then too, who wished for LFG too. These are not the people I want to play with as the genre itself might be alive but the people I want to play with simply don't exist anymore.
the majority of the market found "good" mmos to be mindnumbingly boring
sucks to be the evolutionary dead-end of the genre but that's how it boiled down
i agree. but when i realized that my FFXI linkshell was only nice to me because i was a geared out white mage with lots of free time i learned the truth of 'captive audiences' and how they are not a substitution for real socializing
>not making life-long friends through the internet
Honestly it's no different than real life, people in RL will also just want to be around you due to how useful you are to them most of the time, then you have to filter out who your actual friends are.
this genre gameplay wise was never really good. The atmosphere, lands, music, the people you interacted with and the stories within the game made it good. Now the outlet for the social nerds collapsed as its just NPC-tier people parkouring in capital waiting for queue to pop.
The genre has no more of these random adventures ingame as its datamined up to the ass too. Lets assume blizzard would make vanilla + and it would be the best mmorpg ever, I guarantee you players would manage to ruin it. This audience doesn't want to raid to kill a boss, because it would be a cool thing to do. They do it for lootmogcheevos. This is how I know the next big thing will never come. Its just incompatible with the modern audience, it doesn't help thay both community and dev are horrid.
>doesn't want to raid to kill a boss, because it would be a cool thing to do. They do it for lootmogcheevos.
Honestly that's still a thing in FFXIV, Ultimates only give you a cosmetic weapon in exchange for around 100 hours of you smashing your face against the fight. Only reason to do them is because you wanted to challenge yourself to get through them and to SHOW THEM ONLINE
>this genre gameplay wise was never really good.
MMO combat is more interesting than 99% of single player game garbage. Not sure why stupid people keep pretending otherwise.
Rubicante's spinning lines shit is honestly way more interesting than this tower tether bullshit they keep doing in ultimates.
So far everything seems like the same stale shit they did in DSR. I hope they pull some cool shit in the next phases.
I see there's a discord raid going on here
>Thought it was someone memeing on barry
>Its an actual account
Holy fricking kek
more specifically it's /wowg/'s barry, a different fellow from bazztek but equally deranged
that's not the actual barry
that's the main dude that people from /wowg/ call barry
WoW isn't even an option at this point. The new expansion wasn't able to bring anyone who left during the previous dogshit back, and the Chinese audience is now entirely gone. Microsoft might try some shitty F2P rework to revive it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the axed it entirely.
Assuming of course that Microsoft ever actually gets its hooks into Actiblizzard. They haven't officially done anything yet, the deal is being delayed considerably by the rebuttals and protests from higher regulatory agencies, and both companies were kinda counting on it being a quick and done deal.
Tibia
that's almost 2 phases of the 5 down
How do you know there are 5 phases? From data mining?
People datamined the music involved, and there's 5 tracks. That's where the 5 phase assumption comes from.
5 music tracks.
bros...
where's tps...?
They raid as NTR now since the group split and 4 of them stayed together.
>NTR
Well one is an MMO and the other is fantasy Destiny 2
ffxiv fights are more akin to rhythm game tracks than boss fights
Dufus and Waframe are the superior RPGs.
>Warframe
>20 plus hours grinding for a specific part then have to wait another 24hrs for it to be crafted
>good
World of Warcraft, because Nipp MMO was so boring I didn't even notice the cutscene had paused.
Well thank you for showing me which MMO is clearly the better game, anons. I will be trying out XIV because of this thread. I haven’t played MMOs in my life but this thread clearly showed me that XIV is the objectively better game considering any arguments for WoW were shitflinging, disingenuous arguments, and shit unrelated to the actual game like your troony obsession. You don’t do a good job getting people into WoW
WoW is the superior MMORPG.
FFXIV is the superior movie.
I disagree
FFXIV doesn't even have a proper overworld, it's just a bunch of disconnected bowls.
You just described modern WoW better than XIV
Loading screens does not make the world feel disconnected to anyone but WoWtards
>Loading screens does not make the world feel disconnected
No they are right about the loading screens. It does make the world feel disconnected you have to accept that this is one of the games faults. Ffxiv is not a perfect game.
>You just described modern WoW better than XIV
No I didn't.
>Loading screens does not make the world feel disconnected
Of course it does. You can't even tell how the zones connect to one another geographically within a land mass. Zones are all connected by thin tunnels and don't make up the entirety of any land mass in the game world.
Meanwhile WoW's maps literally show you the zone geography and how they connect with one another within a land mass, the entirety of which is represented in the game world. You can travel from one zone to another across a vast border between any of them.
>WoW show you zone geography
Yeah and a glacier suddenly turns into a fricking jungle because...
WoW geography is a fricking joke
>You just described modern WoW better than XIV
do FFXIV players actually believe this? Each individual zone in DF is bigger and more detailed than all of the zones in Endwalker put together lmao.
>implying anyone plays DF to actually know that
can confirm
try without ending the post with lmao so we can't tell you're being based and epic
>These teams spending more time talking about pulls than actually pulling and getting more practice
not like they have trash respawns to worry about
What a fricking ass backwards world we live in. Boys want to be girls and girls want to be big stinky Black folk
and neckbeards play at being men on an anime imageboard
>the literal spokesperson of your company is a troony
How do wowtrannies cope
thats the principal game designer at riot MMO you dumbfrick
>he doesnt know the troony used to develop WoW until a few months ago, even appearing in a "feature overview" by blizzard
cope
>used to
DING DING DING
>implying trannies got fired or 42%'d themselves
Odds are half of them still work there
you dumbfrick you are playing the game the troony developed
It is CA and Blizzard just had a Bill Cosby room scandal so it's no surprise they'd replace half the company with troony shit and push D.I.E. up to 11.
-t. commiefornian
I just ate fajitas at a restaurant, caught a whiff of the onions impromptu the pico that got on my fingers and saw this pic and nearly fricking puked.
>that was awesome, anon. really impressed with your healing
>3 commendations
>Be DPS
>clown the frick out of the entire dungeon
>provide QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT to the whole group
>3 commendations
It ain't much, but it's an honest living
You and I both know you got 3 comms because you queued into a group of 3 who can't give a com to each other so they gave it to the only person available.
No for reals I just unleashed my best puns
>Anon, you didn't turn on tank stance while we were still within the starting invul shield, you turned it on 2 seconds after we began and for me, that's too long, no commendations for you.
who sticks around long enough to get commendations?
Tanks still needing comms for the mount
morons needing comms to be a mentor
>Tanks still needing comms for the mount
You don't need coms for tank mounts.
Was that always the case? I swore you needed comms...
That was always the case, you’re thinking of something completely different
Yea you get mounts at 500 and 3000, tanks just need to do stuff above 71?
Ok now I see where I got it mixed
I do.
Why are you running away so fast from me?
>(You)
Here you go anon, I know it doesn't count for much, but you'll always be my little pogchamp
YAAAAAY!
> Crystal Datacenter
I don't know why you'd expect anything different.
Why is gear design so bad in these games? Can't they hire some good artists?
>Put out two ultimates back to back because raidloggers screamed their head off about male viera
>It's just O12S but again and not anything interesting like TEA or DSR
i genuinely hope they frick off
DQX
"it's just simon says!" is every mmo, frick off
Congrats dumbass you just repeated the point of the post you're trying to mock.
I thought Yoshi said Omega would be easier than DSR like people can't even clear phase 1 consistently after 12 hours.
its a shit fight
Post your clear.
He was being cheeky/ sarcastic.
People have complained the fights were getting too easy, people complains DSR was too easy.
This is him and his dev team saying "ok you wanted hard, here you go".
I think for phase 1 alone it was 4-5 different mechs.
>people wonder why FFXIV devs still make Ultimates even though only a minority of players do them
>60k viewers on twitch today
hmm, it's a mystery alright.
>today
OH NONONONONO
Do not play WoW. As a WoW fanboy who was subbed and raided through BFA and SL DF is not worth playing unless you really like running the same dungeons over and over or wasting gold on crafted gear. They literally made it p2w now as you can buy full crafted gear that is higher ilvl than the first 4 bosses on mythic. Can't say anything about FF, but do NOT play WoW.
post your character, homosexual
whats the bop material you need to get gear crafted and how many slots can you fill with crafted gear?
>whats the bop material you need to get gear crafted
You can get one BoP item upgrade from running M+16 which is a joke. You get a spark every other week, but soon you will be able to farm as many as you want. You will not get better items than this from mythic raid with the new need/greed loot sytem unless you are in a top 100 world guild.
Buying a run is not p2w, literally buying BiS gear from the AH (crafting order) is p2w.
>buying a run is not p2w
How is it not? Genuinely curious about your line of thought
The people who won in this scenario are the people you are buying the run from. With crafting order 418 ilvl the people you are buying from also had to use p2w in order to sell the run to you.
>people invite you based on your previous experience / raider.io score cancer
>buy runs to raise your raider.io score
>you are now being invited over other people that are struggling to find groups and raise their score
There, you won by paying money
>You can get one BoP item upgrade from running M+16 which is a joke. You get a spark every other week, but soon you will be able to farm as many as you want.
yes, because were 2 months into the game xpac, so gearing is getting progressively easier. you are limited to equipping 5 crafted items at a time
your weapon slot counts as 2
>You will not get better items than this from mythic raid with the new need/greed loot system unless you are in a top 100 world guild.
mythic raid has the highest ilvl in the game, 424.
even if you pug mythic raids, there is a level of semi-organization, and nobody rolls need like monkeys
>literally buying BiS gear from the AH
that is impossible because you need to provide your own spark and primals, which you get either from m+ or doing other content
WoW has been p2w since the introduction of tokens, you could always pay gold for carries and troonyzzard endorses it. Even their CEO sells runs.
answer this, falseflagger
>using the "violent games make you violent" fallacy
why does it keep winning?
they released a version of the game without the anti-bot code and just ban them in waves so they can get a big chunk of 'new subs' every once in a while
Winning what, the homosexualry race? Not even WoW has an in-game string that mentions this freak shit
Wrong. Every single quest involving romance in DF is outright gay pozzed shit, there's not even a single heterosexual quest
Still it's always indirectly or implied, you cannot find "genderqueer" in the entirety of WoW's codebase.
the goalposts identify as being way the frick over there
>troony medieval clicker simulator mad
Enjoy your pozzed shit
That's no code. That's fricking dialogue text. Do not reply to me ever again
>I don't understand what a codebase is
Back to serving burgers buddy
Explain it to me. Let's hear
That's what school is for, should've listened to your parents.
Are you a coder now if you change change dialogues? lmao
Black person you have to assist 2 couples of gay centaurs buttfrick one another .
you actually have to assist them to buttfrick
(You) homosexual
>underage homosexual trying to be edgy
Haha, nice one anon but you have to be 18+ to post in Ganker
you sound like you are legitimately in pain, seek help dude
What is a gay code, and how can a code turn gay?
alex jones
get help
>everyone just screeches about trannies rather than talking about either actual game
It's all very tiresome
>surprised at the tribalism
You have WoWgays and NuWoWgays. Its like 2 cancer ridden lions fighting over a dung pile accusing the other of having cancer while having it themselves.
>Average xiv player
>dickcord
looks like Twitch chat, so it isn't anything but a shitpost
So has any group gotten past that first playstation mechanic in Phase 2?
WoW Prime > FFXIV Prime
Current FFXIV > Current WoW
WoW is for homosexuals
actually think about it for a second
there exist people that are so far gone they can't play a video game because for 1 week in the game's 20 year existence there was a one off troony event that is so forgotten it can only be seen in a screenshot the schizo keeps for himself so he can remind himself that he can't ever play the game
XIV is for trannies
The whiter you are you will say FF14.
The browner you are you will say WoW.
wow is the white man's game
The "white supremacist extremist experiences" are reported by blacks and browns you moron. This literally means that they make the majority of the players in those respective games. Nobody cares about "white supremacy" in a white man's game.
ADL is just InfoWars for israelites
sir
please do the needful
do not redeem XIV sub
redeem the WoW sub
thank you sir
They're both dogshit.
ffxiv is a better story
wow is a better game
simple as
>wow is a better game
*was a better game
wow will always be a better game than ffxiv let's just be real
>Sneedbringers and Dragonshart are better than Shadowbringers and Endwalker
Peak contrarianism. MoP WoW was better than FF14 that's true.
>Sneedbringers
Meant Sneedlands
Troonbringers and troonwalker are shit. 6.x are shit amd 0 content
Its over
XV sucks.
Flopspoken sucks.
It's over.
Flopspoken is a flop but whats funny is your money for xiv went into it. Heres hoping xvi is also a flop and yoshipiss anheros after firebombing sqeenix hq
anon nobody cares about shadowlands anymore
what is that supposed to prove beside your level of understanding about wow's game mechanics
didn't complete a single daily in dragoflight or "mount farms" yet, that shit is completely optional
>"mount farms" yet, that shit is completely optional
XIV doesn't timegate old raid mounts. WoW keeps mounts/transmogs from raids on a weekly time solely for the purpose of FOMO. They want players who care about those things to worry about missing out on the reset when they're not subbed. That's just one turn in Kotick's rat maze.
the farmable mounts from raids you're obsessing about are most likely worthless. If you want to flex you show up with TGC shit or a longboi or a gladiator mount or a mythic etc mount. Everything that's worth shit is either tied to IRL paypig shit or sweatmode content (which you can also paypig for)
>most likely worthless
Maybe someone actually likes that PS1 model dragon from a 12 year old raid
If they're so worthless then it would mean nothing to just remove the weekly timgate, wouldn't it?
But you know they won't do that because "hardcore" mount farmers would piss and moan until the end of time when a newbie can spend an hour to get a mount that literally took them years to drop.
how is it contrarian to say wow has better gameplay than ffxiv?
>>wow will always be a better game than ffxiv let's just be real
You weren't talking about gameplay in particular but the whole game. Also
>frostbolt
>frostbolt
>frostbolt
>frostbolt
>log on
>spend 10 minutes on autorun because the game has an ass backwards travel system
>do shitty daily
>spend another 10 minutes on autorun
>do shitty daily
>spend another 10 minutes on autorun
>do shitty daily
>spend another 10 minutes on autorun
>oh looks like the reset happens, time to do some mount farms
>spend 3 hours running through raids you oneshot
>whoops looks like I didn't get a single mount, darn that <1% drop rate
>have to wait a week to try again for no reason
>log off
what a game you got there
where are the world first groups streaming??
Is there anything worse than a person who plays GAME shitposting about OTHER GAME, but anyone who actually plays OTHER GAME can tell how much of an idiot they are because everything they're saying is just parroting wrong information? Like either learn what you're talking about or just stop caring about it, because it just makes you look dumb otherwise.
reminds me of cyberpunk 2077
I DIDN'T GO GET MY TAILS FRICK
Why would they pick this boring ass theme for the phase people are probably going to be spending the most time in? Might as well just have busted out eScape.
you have to earn the right to listen to better music.