Which one damaged the industry more?

Which one damaged the industry more?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Xbox

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >implying PS is responsible for anything more than shovelware
      Xbox Live and Gaylo are the ones that hurt vidya the most.

      Xbox was soulful as af and pushed the industry forward

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        fr fr

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the cuckbox was a travesty that ruined the fps genre for 10 years until it was once again saved by DOOM

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          NuDOOM was shit.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            it was good but halo wasn't

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Underage faceberg newbie, you're trying too hard, just like NuDOOM and Eternal are.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                maybe if microsoft tried harder their consoles would stop flopping

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a gen-x boomer and Halo sucks horse wiener. I used to play it a lot anyway because it's just one of the things you'd play while you got high with your bros back in those days, which means I do attach some positivity to it in my memory, but I always preferred to play almost anything else.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                it's just so shitty compared to the fps that came before it with great movement and fast pace

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I was always a 007, Perfect Dark, Time Splitters kind of homie when it came to fps.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe if you consider companies putting focus group data and market trends over dev's creative vision, then sure. I think we can all agree it has led to a very homogenized, streamlined and dumbed down product.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      correct, it's the reason why consoles are now potato PCs for morons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. Specifically the 360 is responsible for making video games mainstream. Which is why everything sucks now. Gotta appeal to the lowest common denominator.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. These days though there's no real meaningful distinction between Sony or Microsoft in terms of poisonous influence, they're equally bad, even if they're not identical in the kind of awful they propagate. I only give Xbox a bigger share of blame in terms of being the one to start the race to the bottom.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you didn't want a race to the bottom you should've picked the Dreamcast over the DVD player.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This is cope from the people that ruined the industry.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This. Specifically the 360 is responsible for making video games mainstream. Which is why everything sucks now. Gotta appeal to the lowest common denominator.

        correct, it's the reason why consoles are now potato PCs for morons

        fpbp.

        You're all fricking idiots.

        Xbox was the only thing that put consoles toward being more like PC, which is superior in every way. If not for this thing we may still have memory cards and online adaptors.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >being locked down PCs is good

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >being locked down PCs is good
            buddy, I hate to break it to you but that's what a game console is, a computer that is locked down to just playing games. Xbox lifted some of those shackles, by giving you a harddrive that let you put your own music if you wanted, save your games to the harddrive directly on the console and move them to portable storage if you chose.

            A PS2 is a locked down pc, it just doesn't resemble a computer as much as an xbox does because of how locked down it is.

            Was it worth it? Besides consoles are holding back PC games now, so I don't see how that's even a big deal.

            >Was it worth it? Besides consoles are holding back PC games now

            Not a matter of worth, It was an inevitablity. in orders for consoles to become better they had to become more like A PC. PC has always driven the market in terms of technical specifications. Consoles have ALWAYS held PC back, and with it, gaming as a whole.

            In the end, how it will go is that PC will have the version it was specifically developed for everything else will be a port. We are seeing the begining right now even japanese companies like square and Capcom are coming to realize it's where their biggest market is.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Console never held PC back before. Both platforms were seperate which was the best possible thing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This. That claim comes from literal platform loyalist morons that misundertood the meme.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Was it worth it? Besides consoles are holding back PC games now, so I don't see how that's even a big deal.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Besides consoles are holding back PC games now
            PC for games was always shit aside the brief period of thw 90s-early 2000s. PC as a whole is THE piece of crap holding back videogames. But in reality is what it killed it since there's no coming back from the damage it did.

            >I don't see a big deal on graphicprostitute race, always online and incomplete games

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I remember how people who brought the PS2 but had families that were poorgays couldn't afford a memory card. So.they had to finish as much of the game as they can without saving

          It was kind of a scam that the PS2 and PS1 didn't include memory cards or internal storage space to for saves

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. We could live in a timeline without paid online.

      This. Specifically the 360 is responsible for making video games mainstream. Which is why everything sucks now. Gotta appeal to the lowest common denominator.

      >the 360 is responsible for making video games mainstream
      PS2 was way more mainstream than the 360 ever was.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PS2

      >Performance got fricked over
      >Genres began to get axed
      >Sony crusade against sprite based games
      >The start of devs not using the platform features (use of particle effects of ps2)
      >Games stagnating and becoming less creative instead of experimental and bringing new concepts aside a handful (mister mosquito and Katamari)
      >Massive casualization even, before gen 7, with that sattire known as ARPG
      In reality the only thing that actually improved with PS2 were action games; those took a massive leap of improvement compared to the prior generation and borderline even peaked there.

      OG xbox was never relevant.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Only the 360

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ITT:seething tendies

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you being born

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    at least PS2 has more than 1 good game

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the creator of video games

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      every single time

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >8 citations
        the environmental storytelling on wikipedia always gets me

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't even need to open the image to know what tribe he belongs to

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 for being a DVD player

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      what would the alternative be?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >movie company makes a console
    >video games slowy turn into movies
    how didnt we see it coming?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS1 was full of shitty platformers and h*rror games while PS2 focused more on action.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PS1 had a frickton of great experimental games.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >bait thread
    PS2 is the GOAT though. It was the last console with an extremely solid library.
    Notice how half the recommended games on PS3 are just HD ports of PS2 games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The PS2 wasn't successful because it had a big library, it had a big library because it was successful, it won the generation the moment it launched so of course everyone would make games for the console with the biggest, widest market (and eventually learn that this said makret is fricking moronic and that all games for it must be dumbed down), even if said console was weak and a pain in the ass to develop for.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        massive cope

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >PS2 is the GOAT though
      >t.sonniger
      Shit hardware, lower lows, highs weren't as good as the prequel. Nice to see a snoy for the good ol' ps but you're still a tad wrong.

      PS1 was full of shitty platformers and h*rror games while PS2 focused more on action.

      PS1 wins, got it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Incorrect

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >implying PS is responsible for anything more than shovelware
    Xbox Live and Gaylo are the ones that hurt vidya the most.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      gaylo broke the industry by being too good causing every developer to try to recreate its magic

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The PS2 attracted normalgays by the droves and showed the rest of the games industry that you don't need to bother with launching your console with games because dumb normalgays on a hype train will buy it anywhere (and yes, the PS2 was gameless all the way until mid-late 2001 more than a year after launch, months after the Dreamcast died and around the same time the GC and Xbox launched, by that point the PS2 already had a massive lead in sales it would keep for the rest of the generation)
    Oh and Sony's entire prelaunch hype campaign for it (which they would copy almost verbatim for the PS3 with disastrous results) is also the only reason the Xbox came to be, Bill Gates and Steve Balmer hated the idea of a console and were about to fire the whole DirectX team for working on one behind their backs until someone from that team brought up Sony trying to sell the PS2 as a PC replacement, not just for games but for everything, which led to Bill Gates just giving them a blank check and letting them do whatever they wanted.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PS2 had a metric frickton of playable launch titles. Better than goddamn PS1 or PS3, that's for sure.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Compared to the other 6th gen consoles it was barren as frick, RR5 was fun and AC2 was fine but everything else was either awful ports of DC/PC games or tech demos.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >filtered by timesplitters of all games
          this guy couldn't break all the windows in time

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS1 for using CDs instead of cartridges.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this one

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It barely had a lasting effect on the industry.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Black folkhitstation 2. The Black folkhitstation 1 was just as bad but at least it had a few gems underneath the mountains of sports shovelware. And at least the culture was different back then. Just kids being edgy.

    But the Black folkhitstatiton 2? Black person mania unleashed. Kids everywhere pretending to be Black folk, listening to Black person rap music and worshipping ghetto Black person lifestyles thanks to GTA San Andreas and 50 Cent Bulletproof. You couldnt be spotted playing "those gay colorful games" or else you werent a true Black person soldier of the hood. Absolutely abominable. 80% of all PS2 users were Black folk or wannabe Black folk watching their Black person comedies and Black person gangta movies. Total Black person saturation almost killed this industry overnight. Its insane that Im one of the only few that remember this.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I remember because my brother was a stereotypical wigger. Right down to the attempt at a black hair cut and gold chains.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      both of those were multiplats, dumbass

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        More Black folk owned a PS2 than an Xbox because of the DVD factor, dumbass

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker loves those games moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Explains the sad state of this board then.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Old Ganker loved them too newbie

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Old Ganker was nintendo and still is, stop rewriting history and replying back with your inane deflection dumb Black person shitstation homosexual, Ill slit your throat if I knew were you lived

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Old Ganker still liked non-nintendo games you moronic homosexual.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nintendo threads were always a majority on old v. Every time Japan Time updated the catalog would be flooded. Know your place scum. Snoy and xbox shit has always been tertiary to the board culture. Go to reset era if you love huffing snoydick so much

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Kys homosexual. Ganker always being a nintendo board didn't mean games like Metal Gear Solid and Warcraft weren't Gankercore.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I sell usb filled with games and this post is so true
      PS2 is for casual Black person homosexuals.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >You couldnt be spotted playing "those gay colorful games
      it was dudebro games like CoD that killed the colorful stuff. Platformers and JRPGs were still extremely popular on PS2 and outside of those most normalgays played fifashit. Besides GTA SA was good anyways, only idiots can't seperate fiction from reality

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick are (You) even talking about

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS1 was the original incursion so I vote that. PS2 didn't do anything worse.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's not the Wii

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's the wrong question OP. What you should be asking is which one damaged society more and the answer would be the ps1. This because before Sony videogames were really for children and once adulthood was reached the majority would have grown out of it and either become productive members of society or down and out bums.
    Now you have down and outs that wouldn't know what a productive day means and are to busy arguing about either their sexuality, gender, skin colour or a mixture of all 3 (I guess having a mental illness is confusing).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the frick

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    some of the blame goes to nintendo as well.
    imagine - how different would the industry be right now if the snes cd rom had released as planned?

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Neither, Xbox 360 fricked the industry up.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    These two were the peak of the industry.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shitting on the PS2 is peak contrarianism. You are not a fan of vidya if you don't like the PS2.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't even have one but this is true anyway.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You can hate the console and what it did to gaming but still enjoy its library.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      gatekeeping homosexual.
      the ps2 was only so successfull because people bought it as dvd player - i know, because that's literally what i did.
      gamecube was always better for actual video games.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        cope. it sold like 10x the flopcube

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >PS1 sells 100 million consoles
        >PS2 sells 150 million consoles
        Lets just say an extra 50 million people bought the PS2 because of the DVD player. That other 100 million consoles is still more than 5x the amount than Gamecube sold.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PS2 is mostly inferior multiplats and shovelware. It's beyond overrated.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Vouching for the ps2 is peak brand loyalist. See? it's easy to shitpost with tard logic.

      This is cope from the people that ruined the industry.

      Anon's right. Sega was in trouble due Saturn, now which Sega doomed Sega is a good question.

      >PS1 sells 100 million consoles
      >PS2 sells 150 million consoles
      Lets just say an extra 50 million people bought the PS2 because of the DVD player. That other 100 million consoles is still more than 5x the amount than Gamecube sold.

      Let's not. ps2 basically cheated by having an extremely long support and was discountinued almost a decade after its gen ended which is extremely rare if not the only isolated case in the medium.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >ps2 cheated by being successful

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >wii was equally successful
          >discontinued shortly after the gen ended
          >NDS was massively successful
          >discontinued shortly after the gen ended
          >PS2 was successful after the gen ended
          >Not discontinued after the gen ended
          ??????

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So the PS2 was more successful than either of them? Okay

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Nope, that'd be Switch. Which will be discontinued shortly after its gen ends.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            PS2 was still sold because it was a DVD player that also happened to play games. It was the cheapest thing you could get that ran DVDs.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Let's not. ps2 basically cheated by having an extremely long support and was discountinued almost a decade after its gen ended which is extremely rare if not the only isolated case in the medium.
        PS2 had already sold 25 million consoles by the time Gamecube and Xbox were released, besting the lifetime sales of both consoles before they had even really released.
        When the Xbox 360 released in November 2005, PS2 reached 100 million consoles sold and then sold an additional 50 million with next gen consoles on the market.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >PS2 reached 100 million consoles sold and then sold an additional 50 million with next gen consoles on the market.
          Wondered why? From there comes the cheating.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This. The reason why Sony supported the PS2 for so long is because it was still selling like hotcakes well into the 7th gen. Other systems dropped off hard in sales when their successors launched but not the PS2.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The reason why Sony supported the PS2 for so long is because it was still selling like hotcakes well into the 7th gen.
            >
            PS3 tanked and Sony shoot itself in the foot ith its price.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Other systems dropped off hard in sales when their successors launched but not the PS2.
            Gee, I wonder why? Imagine going from the gamesiest console in existence to the nogamesiest console in existence. What a shitshow that was

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The PS2 for killing the dreamcast.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 and Wii directly killed video games by appealing to casual homosexuals.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PS2 wasn't trying to appeal for casual people, shovelware just appeared on it and the Wii

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        But the Wii is a different story you see, that shit was just fricking dumb. The motion controls were odd, sometimes it just didn't work. I still have some problems with it now.

        Or maybe my controllers are broken? I don't know, my family back then were fricking pigs.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >PS2 wasn't trying to appeal for casual people
        Its main gimmick was being an affordable DVD player. It was trying to reach that demographic

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Sega Saturn allowed VCD.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Blizzard hires psychologists in order to make their games as addictive as possible. Games no longer about fun, but unlocking shit.
    >Xbox introduces paid online play.
    >Xbox 360 introduces microtransactions.
    >Xbox 360 introduces patching to consoles. At first, patch size is limited and devs actually had to pay Microsoft to patch their game. Microsoft abandons these policies leading to influx of huge patch sizes and unfinished games.
    >PS3/360 development kills most AA developers.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Which one damaged tendie's buttholes more?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      both

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PS1.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously 2 but the real, irrecoverable damage occurred 7th gen

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    FRICK THE SWITCH!

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    3D was a mistake. 2D should have been the only medium though which games should be created and experienced.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS2

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Damage? They made the industry more profitable than ever before.
    If that's not what you meant then choose better words than "damage the industry"

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 easily.
    That's when all the cinematic shit really kicked off and gamers turned their backs on Japan because japanese games had all that pesky gameplay in them and not enough story.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Neither, and the Xbox didn't either.
    The Post-Uncharted 2 PS3 killed gaming, thought it didn't become terminal until Last of Us.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Neither of those, 7th generation did by far the most and irreparable damage to the industry that still haunts us to this day:
    >DLCs
    >microtransactions
    >lootboxes
    >paid online
    >rise of online gaming on consoles
    >rise of dudebro genres like shooters and sports games which have dominated every year since CoD 4 launched
    >mandatory game installs on consoles
    >bare bones physical boxes, no more manuals inside and digital becoming more prelevant

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    2 because it set up an entire generation of gamers for disappointment. Consoles literally peaked here and its not even comparable. Every consoles catalog of games has been all around worse than the ps2 in terms of quality, originality, variety, sheer amount of games, and amount of games that carry some sort of legacy for having cult followings

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know why people take best selling charts seriously. They never count digital sales, companies that hide their sales data, free to play games, and games that people sub to.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >free to play games
        I really wish gacha kills the industry for good, at this point that's a better fate than seeing it's corpse continue to be desecrated.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shitch

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >look up late life ps2 games
    >its all soccer ports
    so the ps2 had a second wind in third world countries?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It's still popular in third world shitholes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kind of

      >PS3 price and no games at release
      >currency change
      >PS3 price and no game at release for over a year
      >Look at the side
      >PS2 brand new for half the price and easily hackeable
      LA had a huge burst of hardware sales, not software, in that gen. That plus ps2 being in all those cyber cafe crap for PES and all the users "renewing" their for the superslim sounds like an easy 20 million.

      PS2 was still sold because it was a DVD player that also happened to play games. It was the cheapest thing you could get that ran DVDs.

      By 2010 nobody gave a shit about DVD players and the frick all the handheld versions of it.

      PS2 wasn't trying to appeal for casual people, shovelware just appeared on it and the Wii

      >PS2 wasn't trying to appeal for casual people
      >Sony brought the cinematic games cancer normies slurp
      >PS2 best selling games

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the ps2 held back an entire generation as the weakest of 3 systems.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty obvious that most of this thread is just zoomers who weren't even alive when any of these consoles were current. Absolutely no one ever said anything like that. They just enjoyed the games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Keep defending your gay ass Dreamcast stand homosexual.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >2023
        >there are still butthurt DCgays

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They're both the same console as far as I'm concerned since ps2 can play ps1 games.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When was the industry not damaged?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Mid 80s to early 00s

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