Analogue joysticks on N64 controllers, disk based media in PlayStation, hard drives in Xbox, all good ideas later adopted by the wider industry. >2 screens
Yet another Nintendo gimmick. A waste of resources, never copied by anyone even Nintendo.
It was the most successful handheld line in their history and found similarly notable buy-in by its successor line. It also had a hand in the development of unique, new game designs by a sizable portion of the industry. The 2 screens were supplemented by touch, which preceded mobile gaming as well, making it a trend setter for what would eventually become a massive format. >A waste of resources, never copied by anyone even Nintendo.
This is the Vita due to modest software support, proprietary storage solutions, and a lack of follow through for a successor.
Not him, but i knew a fat puerto rican chick with a blue vita that she attempted to mod and somehow failed? I dont have one, is it easier than the piss easy 3ds?
>OLED, but with shitty proprietary charger >LCD, but with standard micro usb charger
the 1000 was still better, but the fact sony went far enough to switch the charger but NOT just convert to microsd cards was so stupid. cheaper storage could have actually saved the vita
>cheaper storage could have actually saved the vita
Nah, the console's library is extremely underwhelming. There's a reason why it's mainly used as a prettier PSP and retroarch box.
Nothing could have saved the vita, it's primary flaw was the massive piracy scene of the PSP. NO devs wanted to support it, that's why it's early life was fricking zilch, it had nothing for the first 2-3 years of it's existence besides the launch lineup sony got set for it, everyone was terrified it would just be the PSP again where there are 0 sales because everyone pirates everything. Storage was an attempt to assuage the worries but it caused it's own issues. It never would have fixed it though, it was never going to succeed in anywhere near the same capacity as the psp.
>shitty proprietary charger
Nah, that charger is fricking solid.
I record my vita in my pc, i had to go through many standard usb cables for my 2000 to find the right one since the slightest bump would disconnect it. The 1000 stays put.
Micro USB is a double-edge sword. Sure it's convenient at first, but those don't last. I used their official USB dock to charge my Vita 2000. Now it doesn't connect at all. Have to put it screen down to charge it. I've no issue with the proprietary one on my 1000s.
Storage was only a minor issue of many issues. They couldn't even get games out the door and it's very telling when P4G was the top seller with like what, 2 million copies? 1 million? I forgot the exact amount.
First party games weren't getting people in the door, first party Japanese games weren't getting people in the door, Japanese games weren't getting people in the door outside of Japan and a small niche like us, third party big names like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty weren't getting people in the door, and even when they tried two separate reboots (Playstation TV and the 2000 + Borderlands 2) no one was biting at all.
It also didn't help that the big name Japanese companies were staying away, there was no Monhun at all so that kept the Japanese fanbase from massively adopting it, many games simply weren't localized because no one could justify it, many companies shifted development of their games to PS4, and at the tail end LRG, Play-Asia, and some smaller limited run companies were pretty much the only companies actually even releasing physical copies of games anymore.
i can't believe i just read this shit article >bring deck to a bar with troon friends >other friends don't bring/have deck >don't play multiplayer, instead, play a single player game infront of your friends >it's antisocial and bar atmosphere does not bring communal ambiance
well no shit
if everyone brought their deck and got wasted playing some multiplayer game (DRG) then I could see it
Cool dude. Too bad there aren't hundreds of other options of various grades that emulate multiple generations of consoles at far better prices, portability, and battery life.
If you want something that's more performant than the Deck with a better form factor, you can shell out for it. The fact is that the thing hasn't remotely cornered the market, nor is it a definitive choice in the segment. Something made particularly event with a year or so's sell-through.
Or you could just use your fricking smartphone.
we're in current year, you can fricking pair bluetooth to it, 0 excuse.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's an option if you don't want a dedicated handheld with its own buttons without a wireless controller or wrap-around accessory, yes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
What's the hangup on using a separate device when it will take up the identical bag/pocket space other wise?
I never understood how that was some sort of gotcha. If I have to have a giant fricking device in my bag or carry around a controller, it doesn't matter one way or another, but it's sure more convenient to just use my phone since I've always got that on me all the time anyway.
Also the fact my phone usually has properly updated emulators designed to work with it, instead of some weird ass ARM garbage breaking everything but retroshite.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No one put forward a 'gotcha'. It's a sincere statement. Some people -myself included- don't want to hitch shit to their phone to waste battery life and engage in set up. Having an actually pocketable little thing with its own battery life and inputs that's no fuss to play on is attractive on its own terms, especially as opposed to bagging a controller and mount or one of those wrap-around grips.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i'm sure bringing out your android smartphone and then attaching it to your Razer phone mount / controller and playing NES will make all of the women wet at the bar
Why are you attaching shit to it? It takes a negligible amount of battery to just pair something. No wonder you're so averse to it.
But hey, do you, I just think it's a gigantic waste of money to buy something that's just doing the same shit as your phone.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Did you read the rest of the comment where the idea of a controller bigger than the phone -which would need a damn bag- and a mount also make the idea unattractive?
1 year ago
Anonymous
The thing that you'd be doing similar stuff your phone with can very well start at 50$ and better suit the needs and preferences of a given player.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i'm sure bringing out your android smartphone and then attaching it to your Razer phone mount / controller and playing NES will make all of the women wet at the bar
Depends on the model, the one shown in this thread starts now at $549 for the cheapest model and the Pro with 16gb of ram, 512gb ssd and a 38wh battery it's currently $699. They've gone up a bit in price since the Indiegogo ended.
The upcoming Air Plus models with the i3-1215u and 7520u chips will be around $300. Screen is IPS though.
Ill keep an eye on it. I love my vita. Them taking inspiration from it is a selling point for me.
Still, would like it to have the form factor as a psp go like the vita 3k was going to be. If they made that with phone support id buy it in a heart beat.
PSP was king of the handhelds. Vita had fricking nothing, it's premiere homebrew feature was a fricking psp emulator and all the emulators the vita had native ran worse than shit run through adrenaline, awful.
3DS was alright but frankly I feel like I'd rather just have a regular DS with an r4. Looking back I can't remember all that many 3DS exclusive games I really liked, most of the best were just remasters of DS games (lol).
But yeah, pound for pound, PSP is the king if you exclude mobile. It has the widest capabilities for emulation, native PS1 support with POPSloader, just overall the best thing to have in your pocket. Insane battery life too.
PSP's good, but the battery life's not insane. DS Lite got up to 15 hours, which actually was crazy and seems like the last time a handheld had such a huge reserve. Native software library is decent thanks to a lot of good classic ports and some fun specially made software. Wouldn't call it the king on its own merits, especially not when including emulation considering the cheap chinese handhelds that can outdo it with its own software.
Its decent up to ps1. Gba is good, they fixed it a few years back, literally needed only 1 line of code to get it running at 60fps. It runs psp games just like the psp since it has actual psp hardware built in with it. The Dreamcast and N64 is hit or miss. I think those two emulators could work if the devs for it were working in it more.
Overall, i havent jumped ship to another handheld simply because i really like its ergonimics and battery life.
Timmy, for the last time, I asked you to go to bed
Neither of those are the DS Lite, so I wouldn't choose either.
Acceptable answer. Still easily pocketable and backwards compatible.
Analogue joysticks on N64 controllers, disk based media in PlayStation, hard drives in Xbox, all good ideas later adopted by the wider industry.
>2 screens
Yet another Nintendo gimmick. A waste of resources, never copied by anyone even Nintendo.
It was the most successful handheld line in their history and found similarly notable buy-in by its successor line. It also had a hand in the development of unique, new game designs by a sizable portion of the industry. The 2 screens were supplemented by touch, which preceded mobile gaming as well, making it a trend setter for what would eventually become a massive format.
>A waste of resources, never copied by anyone even Nintendo.
This is the Vita due to modest software support, proprietary storage solutions, and a lack of follow through for a successor.
this too
dumb sissy white boi
1000 > 2000
I never owned a psp. Thinking abou buying one. Which one should I get? Which one has the most tinkering community?
buy a vita and use the psp emulator inside of it
PSP is the forever king, it's a shame there was never a Switch Micro to properly replace it.
The Lite has a similar size. Surprisingly so.
oled
Good job shaving your legs, you almost pass.
>girl with a vita
cmon dude you're never gonna fool anyone with that shit.
Not him, but i knew a fat puerto rican chick with a blue vita that she attempted to mod and somehow failed? I dont have one, is it easier than the piss easy 3ds?
1000 hacked for SD cards is my ultimate mobile gaming machine
been replaying dragons crown and soul sacrifice while on the shitter and on breaks
>OLED, but with shitty proprietary charger
>LCD, but with standard micro usb charger
the 1000 was still better, but the fact sony went far enough to switch the charger but NOT just convert to microsd cards was so stupid. cheaper storage could have actually saved the vita
I have a sense that it wouldn't have been that much of a value in turning things around, but it definitely wasn't an attractive prospect.
>cheaper storage could have actually saved the vita
Nah, the console's library is extremely underwhelming. There's a reason why it's mainly used as a prettier PSP and retroarch box.
Nothing could have saved the vita, it's primary flaw was the massive piracy scene of the PSP. NO devs wanted to support it, that's why it's early life was fricking zilch, it had nothing for the first 2-3 years of it's existence besides the launch lineup sony got set for it, everyone was terrified it would just be the PSP again where there are 0 sales because everyone pirates everything. Storage was an attempt to assuage the worries but it caused it's own issues. It never would have fixed it though, it was never going to succeed in anywhere near the same capacity as the psp.
>shitty proprietary charger
Nah, that charger is fricking solid.
I record my vita in my pc, i had to go through many standard usb cables for my 2000 to find the right one since the slightest bump would disconnect it. The 1000 stays put.
Micro USB is a double-edge sword. Sure it's convenient at first, but those don't last. I used their official USB dock to charge my Vita 2000. Now it doesn't connect at all. Have to put it screen down to charge it. I've no issue with the proprietary one on my 1000s.
Storage was only a minor issue of many issues. They couldn't even get games out the door and it's very telling when P4G was the top seller with like what, 2 million copies? 1 million? I forgot the exact amount.
First party games weren't getting people in the door, first party Japanese games weren't getting people in the door, Japanese games weren't getting people in the door outside of Japan and a small niche like us, third party big names like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty weren't getting people in the door, and even when they tried two separate reboots (Playstation TV and the 2000 + Borderlands 2) no one was biting at all.
It also didn't help that the big name Japanese companies were staying away, there was no Monhun at all so that kept the Japanese fanbase from massively adopting it, many games simply weren't localized because no one could justify it, many companies shifted development of their games to PS4, and at the tail end LRG, Play-Asia, and some smaller limited run companies were pretty much the only companies actually even releasing physical copies of games anymore.
aya neo actually has games unlike the vitashit
how are chinkshit handhelds going to survive now that the SteamDeck is a thing
>no oled screen in 2020 +3
ewww.
oled is a meme and it never wasnt
i can't believe i just read this shit article
>bring deck to a bar with troon friends
>other friends don't bring/have deck
>don't play multiplayer, instead, play a single player game infront of your friends
>it's antisocial and bar atmosphere does not bring communal ambiance
well no shit
if everyone brought their deck and got wasted playing some multiplayer game (DRG) then I could see it
Form factor, battery life, price, aesthetic, and portability. Basically, they've got a lot of leverage.
AYANEO is nearly a grand.
Cool dude. Too bad there aren't hundreds of other options of various grades that emulate multiple generations of consoles at far better prices, portability, and battery life.
If you want something that's more performant than the Deck with a better form factor, you can shell out for it. The fact is that the thing hasn't remotely cornered the market, nor is it a definitive choice in the segment. Something made particularly event with a year or so's sell-through.
Or you could just use your fricking smartphone.
we're in current year, you can fricking pair bluetooth to it, 0 excuse.
That's an option if you don't want a dedicated handheld with its own buttons without a wireless controller or wrap-around accessory, yes.
What's the hangup on using a separate device when it will take up the identical bag/pocket space other wise?
I never understood how that was some sort of gotcha. If I have to have a giant fricking device in my bag or carry around a controller, it doesn't matter one way or another, but it's sure more convenient to just use my phone since I've always got that on me all the time anyway.
Also the fact my phone usually has properly updated emulators designed to work with it, instead of some weird ass ARM garbage breaking everything but retroshite.
No one put forward a 'gotcha'. It's a sincere statement. Some people -myself included- don't want to hitch shit to their phone to waste battery life and engage in set up. Having an actually pocketable little thing with its own battery life and inputs that's no fuss to play on is attractive on its own terms, especially as opposed to bagging a controller and mount or one of those wrap-around grips.
Why are you attaching shit to it? It takes a negligible amount of battery to just pair something. No wonder you're so averse to it.
But hey, do you, I just think it's a gigantic waste of money to buy something that's just doing the same shit as your phone.
Did you read the rest of the comment where the idea of a controller bigger than the phone -which would need a damn bag- and a mount also make the idea unattractive?
The thing that you'd be doing similar stuff your phone with can very well start at 50$ and better suit the needs and preferences of a given player.
i'm sure bringing out your android smartphone and then attaching it to your Razer phone mount / controller and playing NES will make all of the women wet at the bar
Depends on the model, the one shown in this thread starts now at $549 for the cheapest model and the Pro with 16gb of ram, 512gb ssd and a 38wh battery it's currently $699. They've gone up a bit in price since the Indiegogo ended.
The upcoming Air Plus models with the i3-1215u and 7520u chips will be around $300. Screen is IPS though.
Huh. And so the value proposition of the Deck diminishes further.
Ill keep an eye on it. I love my vita. Them taking inspiration from it is a selling point for me.
Still, would like it to have the form factor as a psp go like the vita 3k was going to be. If they made that with phone support id buy it in a heart beat.
wrong stick placement
Air was actually made as a successor.
lcd with color hack is better
What is a good price for a LCD model? Is the yellowing of the screen fixable with that once color hack?
100-130 usd and yes it doesnt have yellow tint once you use the color hack and much sharper and easier to replace the panel and analog sticks
Oled
PSP was king of the handhelds. Vita had fricking nothing, it's premiere homebrew feature was a fricking psp emulator and all the emulators the vita had native ran worse than shit run through adrenaline, awful.
3DS was alright but frankly I feel like I'd rather just have a regular DS with an r4. Looking back I can't remember all that many 3DS exclusive games I really liked, most of the best were just remasters of DS games (lol).
But yeah, pound for pound, PSP is the king if you exclude mobile. It has the widest capabilities for emulation, native PS1 support with POPSloader, just overall the best thing to have in your pocket. Insane battery life too.
PSP's good, but the battery life's not insane. DS Lite got up to 15 hours, which actually was crazy and seems like the last time a handheld had such a huge reserve. Native software library is decent thanks to a lot of good classic ports and some fun specially made software. Wouldn't call it the king on its own merits, especially not when including emulation considering the cheap chinese handhelds that can outdo it with its own software.
imagine if the oled vita used sd cards, the console that could've been
How's emulation on vita? Thinking about nabbing one
Its decent up to ps1. Gba is good, they fixed it a few years back, literally needed only 1 line of code to get it running at 60fps. It runs psp games just like the psp since it has actual psp hardware built in with it. The Dreamcast and N64 is hit or miss. I think those two emulators could work if the devs for it were working in it more.
Overall, i havent jumped ship to another handheld simply because i really like its ergonimics and battery life.
Neither
PSP 1000