>Have a diverse cast of girls so people with different tastes can all find something they'd like >Get called a contrarian if you happen to like one of the least popular girls
Also, don't pretend people actually give a shit about character development and screentime when it comes being a waifugay, because that would instantly eliminate most characters who aren't party members. People have always mostly thought with their dicks when it comes to this shit.
They literally don’t treat her badly. Outside of Aigis, no Persona 3 girl comes even remotely close to getting the amount of attention as Yukari does, Mitsuru and Fuuka don’t even have a chance to compete and Atlus doesn’t gives a frick about non-party characters so Yuko or Chihiro gets fricked anyways
That's not true at all. Mitsuru and Fuuka were neglected, but Yukari is in the spotlight as a punching bag. Definitely the case in the movies and The Answer
I haven't watched the movies so I can't say if Yukari gets fricked over in that or how or not. But in The Answer, regardless of how you think Yukari was written, I personally think the way her character was written in The Answer made sense and was true to her character, I don't think she's a likable character in The Answer and it feels like she didn't learn any lessons or retained any character development that was in The Journey (i.e. her being less b***hy) but I could sort of understand her being more selfish and a pain in the ass because when you tell an emotional teenager "you can revive your boyfriend again but only if you win the tenkaichi budokai" and everybody is against you and telling you that what you're doing is wrong besides Mitsuru which she arguably dislikes the most compared to Aigis or Fuuka, I could see why she is the way she is in The Answer, her back is against the wall, just because she wanted to see her boyfriend again, yes, they were in the right for why they need to be against her to prevent Nyx getting out again but Yukari isn't level-headed enough to think rationally about the situation. Yukari was still given most of the spotlight besides Aigis and Metis, and Metis doesn't really count because she's the enhanced version waifu, of course, Atlus will give her a shitload of attention and focus. Most of the cast does nothing in The Answer
I think that interview is sort of proof that as much Atlus thinks she is unpopular, I think it goes to show they kept trying to make Yukari work. They could've easily cut her out, replace her or change her role in the story like the Shogi girl in P5, but they still believed that Yukari was vital to the game's story and cast that they kept putting effort into her to make her stand alongside Aigis or MC. If she was truly a punching bag, Atlus would have just let the b***h rot and just say something like "she became a prostitute before P4A and that's why she's not here or any future games"
1 year ago
Anonymous
She's there to make Aigis look better
1 year ago
Anonymous
It’s a bit different to how The Journey does this scene to make Aigis seem more involved and closer to the Protagonist. But that’s always going to be the case, doesn’t mean Yukari is Atlus punching bag the same that they way treat Mitsuru or Fuuka where they consistently do nothing with them, they still keep Yukari relevant and doing shit even if the quality and results vary significantly or is done to make Aigis look better which tbf, Aigis is the better character compared to Yukari and is treated as the Persona 3 Mascot
1 year ago
Anonymous
Atlus does hate Yukari though. She only exists to wank Aigis
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
>They could've easily cut her out, replace her or change her role in the story like the Shogi girl in P5, but they still believed that Yukari was vital to the game's story and cast that they kept putting effort into her to make her stand alongside Aigis or MC.
She is vital to the themes of the storu, albeit not so much the actual plot.
She's kind of like Yuzu in Devil Survivor in that you get to see a more complete look out on how the plot is actually affecting people. Without Yukari it'd just be Akihiko amd Junpei being super gung-ho and Mitsuru being all businesses all the time with no drama to remind you that this isn't all fun and games. Specially early on.
Without her in the answer you'd never get to see how damaged the loss of your character, that is all the efforts you put in the first playthrough, had on her. Like after the most difficult year of her life she lost her family, she is on her way to lose her friends, she lost her emotional support, and she gets berated for trying to get it back. Like telling Isis she's a b***h for trying to get Osiris back from the river.
The thing is that people forget that drama is that spicy stuff that gives taste to a story, even if it's not always pleasant. And someone has to take the L in order to produce it.
Now whether the drama is good or not it's very debatable, however it's easy to see why the devs valued her in the plot so much.
the journey in p5 is the greatest but i think the ending is lame in both versions.. at least in royal there is a big finale (of course the god punisher bullet was epic but after that point it was lame)
>Yukari
Bitchzilla from the b***hific Ocean >Fuuka
Can't cook, can't speak like a girl, seems to wear trashbags for clothes, may be horde of rats in suit must investigate further >Mitsuru
HURR WHAT'S A HAMBURGER MARIN KARIN >Aigis
Yeah, stick your dick in the broken murderous robot, what could possibly go wrong? >Chihiro
Fujoshi in training, possibly bawd for manga >Yuko
Delicious brow- oh frick me no, we met three weeks ago why the frick are you talking about babies oh I'm leaving >Liz
Oh wow I don't understand human culture wooo- no but srsly let me suck your dick I'm fricking thirsty
>Chie
STEAK STEAK STEAK KUNG FU >Yukiko
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M TRADITIONAALLLL >Rise
Walking pile of STDs >Naoto
Worst detective ever >Marie
StupidATLUShowthedarngoshstupidjerkfrickdidyouthinkthiswasattractiveyouidiots >Yumi
Forehead, pity frick me. >Ayane
VEGETA! LOOK! IT'S... A POKEMON!!! >Nanako
BIG BRO I LOVE YOU BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW CREEPY I'M BEING WHATS A e-girlCON >Margaret
Wow bby ur lik so good at following fusion guides on the internet, wanna fug? >Ai
Feel bad that I nearly committed suicide because a boy didn't like me.
>Ann
Even Ryuji knows what to do this one... >Makoto
Hahaha oh wait Atlus was serious let me laugh even harder HAHAHHAHAHA >Futaba
Hime cut = round head >Haru
Too late for character development >Chihaya
Oh right I have a vegana uhhh older chicks? >Takemi
Doctors are the fourth most likely profession to have STDs >Togo
Jesus watched you lewd. >Kawakami
HEY SPEAKING OF STDS >Ohya
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M BAAAAAACK >Justine/Caroline
You're in jail for a reason >Lavenza
Oh look at you, so original. I bet you know cool bands I've never even heard of and they're so great and all frick you
P1/P2 Girls: No one's played that shit you fricking weeb.
The answer is none of them. There are no best girls.
she reeks of desperation. wish we could have yukino again instead
Yukino received a huge downgrade in both her looks and personality wise and she added almost nothing to the story. Her being Maya's buddy was dumb. Maya already has a best female friend and her name is Ulala. Bringing back all the P1 characters in general was kind of unnecessary. If I was to remake P2 I would just keep all of them as background characters instead of party members.
>all she does at night is drink, cry about being useless at 24 and beat you up when you ask her whats wrong
That's the best part. Desperate old women (she's only 24 but it's Japan so you know) who need an emotional connection and warmth to help them are the best. The fact that she's tomboyish makes her even more perfect.
>45 years old >Stinky >Severely autistic >Can't drive to save her life >No fashion sense >Turbovirgin who still jerk offs to the feeling of kissing a guy 20 years ago >Hairy armpits and pussy >Her room is a fricking dirty mess >Pads her bra >Diet consists exclusively of cup ramen AND FRICKING ROTTEN CANNED CRAB ALL OVER HER FRIDGE >Has to get dressed up by Ulala >Her makeup is also done by Ulala >Wears a loose dress with hearts on her breasts (she doesn't even know it's loose) >Can barely even take care of herself >Someone still tries to argue she's best girl
Do Mayagays really?
I'd definitely stay loyal (especially in 4, I would never do anything that might hurt Chie), but I would feel sad about the rejections, some of these girls make you feel so bad for saying no
>has feelings for middle school guy until (you) mog him >has feelings for (you) until akihiko shows up >has feelings for akihiko until...
See what I'm getting at. Chie is a bawd who will upgrade to the next big chad every time.
>Chie is a bawd who will upgrade to the next big chad every time.
So my crush is failed to doom and yet I will still be there for her when she needs me...
1 year ago
Anonymous
you just need to surpass akihiko
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is NOT the type of woman you should fight for.
1 year ago
Anonymous
How is one simple person able to surprass such a man
You can't be saved.
It's alright anon, leave me behind, I appreciate your effort but you are right, I can't be saved
1 year ago
Anonymous
Until someone surpasses anon. It's a losing battle. Maybe he keeps Chie after she gets fat and walled.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Alright now slow down, I don't know if I like her THAT much
1 year ago
Anonymous
he dodges bullets
1 year ago
Anonymous
Actually he focuses on the arm holding the gun and dodges the path that the bullet would be fired from. He doesn't dodge the bullet itself.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i'm PRETTY sure in one of the movies he straight up dodges a mid air bullet
1 year ago
Anonymous
surpassing akihiko is a rewards of its own. becoming sexually attractive to chie and no way gayging her is just a bonus
1 year ago
Anonymous
>sexually attractive to chie
And then dumping her for Yukiko
1 year ago
Anonymous
he dodges bullets
I don't think I can dodge a bullet and I wouldn't want to try, so I guess my best shot is to just be myself and hope I get an amusement park visit and some wholesome time with her out of it
Persona 3 saved the series. It's a fantastic game with an incredibly emotional and deep story and human characters that actually feel real. Its core concept and themes are presented and explored in a very artistic way just like P1&2 did with theirs. P4&5 are just lazy and corporate copies of P3 and are way more shallow as a result and forgot what this series was even about, to begin with.
>P3cuck getting sensitive again
Persona 3 only exists to prolong the life of Atlus and when they realised that people like the waifu dating game about the power of friendship that is P3, that's when they decide to make P4 and P5. Persona 1 was the little snowball that was already destined to go downhill but Persona 3 was like that kid who gave that snowball a good push it needed to make it go downhill faster and to get bigger on the way down
Persona 5 has its flaws, but I don't think it's an outright bad game. Akechi is one of the best characters of the series and basically carries the cast.
>Akechi is one of the best characters of the series and basically carries the cast.
>Akechi is one of the best characters of the series and basically carries the cast.
What the frick is wrong with you? out of all the characters you could have chose as the one who "carries the cast" it is Akechi? I love most of the cast of P5 but you could have easily chosen somebody who is frequently interacts with the story more and is better written like Maruki. I mean frick, even some of the social links like Gun Dad, Kawakami or Sojiro is significantly better. >one of the best characters
one of the most mid characters in the series is more accurate
I just have a thing for appreciating characters who put up a silky, sociable front while being complete damaged idiots deep down. Sue me.
Bro, Akechi's heel turn is what ruins his character. He was a fantastic character before that and it turns him into one of the worst characters in the series. This anon
>I will serve my dad who abandoned me and who I hate and I will commit a bunch of heinous shit to make him a prime minister so I can make him feel bad later
What the frick is wrong with you? out of all the characters you could have chose as the one who "carries the cast" it is Akechi? I love most of the cast of P5 but you could have easily chosen somebody who is frequently interacts with the story more and is better written like Maruki. I mean frick, even some of the social links like Gun Dad, Kawakami or Sojiro is significantly better. >one of the best characters
one of the most mid characters in the series is more accurate
>I will serve my dad who abandoned me and who I hate and I will commit a bunch of heinous shit to make him a prime minister so I can make him feel bad later
The whole thing with Madarame is complex. It's been a while since I played, but I do recall that he did actually care about Yusuke. Just he had other issues.
>I have no idea how they pad it even more in Royal
They didn't? They shrunk down base P5 from a 90-100 hour long game to around 70-80 hours, roughly the same length as The Journey of P3 or P4. The last 20 hours of royal is all third semester, roughly the same length as the snowtrip in P4G or The Answer in P3Fes
people are easily manipulated to think if you write your character super straight faced, dull and pretentious, it somehow convinces fools to forgive it's deep character writing and is "realistic", same shit with yukari, boring b***h but somehow convinces idiots she has layers of depth
who the hell thinks Yukari is smart or mature? She's almost as immature as Junpei or Ken but at least Ken tries to act mature for his age and Junpei eventually wises up, if The Answer is anything to go by, she's matured the least out of the cast.
She's a bit more bland and inoffensive compared to others which gives her more wide scale appeal, one of the writers clearly likes her (while one clearly hates Ryuji) and some gays seem to simp for her English VA (I think she plays the female main character in Cyberpunk).
Is Royal much longer then 4 Golden? Because I'm 27 hours into Golden and have just started the bit where I have to find that weird guy who was acting weird with Yukiko at the start of the game, and someone told me getting Rise is the halfway point.
Is Royal much longer then 4 Golden? Because I'm 27 hours into Golden and have just started the bit where I have to find that weird guy who was acting weird with Yukiko at the start of the game, and someone told me getting Rise is the halfway point.
10 hours give or take, I clocked in P4G at around 85 hours doing all the side content, social links and getting to max level on all my characters. P5R I basically did the same thing, maxed out confidants, finished all the requests, etc. etc. and clocked in around 96 hours
I just don't get how you've played this game for 130 hours and haven't finished it yet. I can get it if you were doing a 100% run or trying to experience the game as much as possible in your first run. But I don't get how you go above 130 hours on a single playthrough, even in a margin of error sense, you should've been done at around 110 hours at most
That's the only reason I can think of why your steam time says that. It's not like it adds time for shits and giggles. Unless you have to go back to an earlier save or died and have to retry, some shit like that.
>p3
Yukari > Mitsuru > fuuka = aigis
Fuuka and Aigis are both trash. The only real options are Yukari and Mitsuru, and it's essentially a choice between the girl next door, and the idealized perfect woman. Even though they're better characters, they're shittier waifus. >p4
Yukiko > Chie > Rise > naoto
P4 had a diverse cast of waifus that are all very polarizing. Previously I was a diehard Chiegay, but the spinoffs had her lusting after akihiko too hard. I ended up liking Yukiko better over the years anyway because she's more elegant and I find her repressed sadistic attitude kind of hot. >p5
Ann > Haru > ratkoto > futaba
All of the p5 waifus are respectable, and have the smallest gaps between them. Ann was simply the hottest one.
I don't include any non party members because they might as well not even be characters.
It's alright for a Musou game. Zenkichi is a fun character as well, and while I know it's a meme to say "persona should have a college student/adult party" I wouldn't mind having one or two older party members.
>unkills Tetsuoka >unsuffers Tatsuya >unlocks Door-kun >unkills Shinji >makes P3ko canon >unkills Nanako's mom >unkills Futaba's mom and Haru's dad >unrapes Shiho >BUT HE'S... LE BAD BECAUSE SUFFERING IS LE GOOD
Persona 5 is so moronic.
Yes, actually. The game admittedly doesn't go into it as much as they should, but the characters frequently question their actions throughout.
This is most clearly highlighted when they find the palace owners shadows inside the Chalices jail, representing how their actions and methods, while just on the surface level, have fed into a much greater evil. Artificially forcing bad people to undergo a sudden and dramatic personality change is a violation of their God-given humanity and dignity, something that even evil people have a right to.
Maruki's actions are also a moral reckoning for the Phantom Thieves. For the first time, they are subject to the effects of 'heart changing' firsthand, and once they break out of it, they feel deeply violated and uncomfortable with what was done to them.
The overall lesson of P5R is that you should not take shortcuts when it comes to punishing the wicked or coping with your own issues, that effort and struggle validates your existence in reality. The dissolving of the Phantom Thieves at the end of the game is incidental, but it is the most morally sound action the team ever takes.
tbf they don't steal desires anymore, their method changes to be more therapeutic
still through magic cognition place though
1 year ago
Anonymous
I haven't played Strikers, what's the difference in how they do it now?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Investigate the source of their target's actions, any kind of trauma or injustice suffered in their past
Fight with shadow until they submit, then confront them with the truth and change their cognition through reflection, they all end up feeling bad and confess in real life
Still kinda bullshit since they use the metaverse but at least they don't brainwash anymore, feels more organic
1 year ago
Anonymous
sounds pretty much the same. that said i don't care if you morons do mental gymnastics to calling joker and co evil brainwashers. piece of shit criminials deserve brainwashing and even worse. whould just outright kill them
>Yes, actually. The game admittedly doesn't go into it as much as they should, but the characters frequently question their actions throughout.
I just wish that the Phantom Thieves were challenged more. Everything conveniently falls into place by talk-no-jutsu. There's no real "oh shit we fricked up" moment in the entire game.
YES, that's exactly what I mean, they skirt along the lines of going "Hey, do you guys think what we're doing is fricked up?" but then immediately after, Joker has three talking options that all basically amount to "lol no".
It's so dumb, but I think Atlus just doesn't have the balls to make their super kewl teen squad even slightly at fault.
I do think some of them were justified as self defense. Though that's mostly due to deadlines and circumstances. Haru's dad was probably when it started being unjustified.
I think Madarame is the most unjustified example, myself. The deadline is based on the gang's own trespassing on his property, and if they were smart, all they had to do was bring a camera and take pictures of the Sayuri copies and take them to the police as proof of scamming. Or, you know, share what you found with Ohya who was EXPLICITLY investigating Madarame and would've sicced a bunch of newspapers on his ass.
There was a bunch of ways to deal with him that didn't involve taking his heart, that was pure laziness on the Phantom Thieves part.
>That means the Phantom Thieves are bad too, right?
>brainwashing is objectively evil
And yet that's all you do to people in the game as phantom thieves. So why is it bad to do it to make someone happy but good to do it to punish someone?
>And yet that's all you do to people in the game as phantom thieves.
"I have never played the game": the Post
>brainwashing is objectively evil
And yet that's all you do to people in the game as phantom thieves. So why is it bad to do it to make someone happy but good to do it to punish someone?
Yes, actually. The game admittedly doesn't go into it as much as they should, but the characters frequently question their actions throughout.
This is most clearly highlighted when they find the palace owners shadows inside the Chalices jail, representing how their actions and methods, while just on the surface level, have fed into a much greater evil. Artificially forcing bad people to undergo a sudden and dramatic personality change is a violation of their God-given humanity and dignity, something that even evil people have a right to.
Maruki's actions are also a moral reckoning for the Phantom Thieves. For the first time, they are subject to the effects of 'heart changing' firsthand, and once they break out of it, they feel deeply violated and uncomfortable with what was done to them.
The overall lesson of P5R is that you should not take shortcuts when it comes to punishing the wicked or coping with your own issues, that effort and struggle validates your existence in reality. The dissolving of the Phantom Thieves at the end of the game is incidental, but it is the most morally sound action the team ever takes.
>unlocks door-kun
Are you sure you wanna know what's behind that door? It was fricking scary when it was at its weakest and it has only grown stronger.
I did not really care for Haru, but seeing her spend time with her father, helping him with his business, him being all nice, made me a bit sad when I had to be like "Yo Haru, sorry but it's not real, we are going to fight for a world where your dad is dead"
What? No. Pretty much every demon can evolve to some other demon. Like you can start with Angel and eventually get all the angel-type demons just by levelling that initial Angel.
Nocturne was my first SMT game so that got seared into my mind. I wish the rest of the games kept that evolving thing going forward. Having to delete or fuse demons just feels me with sadness.
What? No. Pretty much every demon can evolve to some other demon. Like you can start with Angel and eventually get all the angel-type demons just by levelling that initial Angel.
Isn't there some bonus you can get in Nocturne if you stick with the initial Pixie throughout the entire game?
I think the thing I like most about Ann is that she actually felt like a friend in the group along with Ryuuji and Yusuke. Like cohesion wise, they actually formed a nice group that would hang out together. The latter characters I just don't see hanging out as much outside of Joker.
I am playing the game for the first time and i right now i am after the second Palace. I just can't think about the party getting bigger. You pretty much stick with Ryuuji and Ann for a good while. Even Yusuke for me felt like an unnecessary addition, but i like his story so far. Felt like something straight out of those depressing/melodramatic animes.
Still i can't see how the next set of characters will feel as a group dynamic.
I don't know how much you know about future characters that join, so feel free to not read and ignore this, but anyway, in terms of group dynamic the game could really do without Makoto. And as much as I love Haru, the game could do without her, too. I don't even like Futaba, but I'll begrudgingly accept that she's a valuable addition in terms of usefulness and group chemistry. While I'd say the original four already feels like they're a full team, Yusuke and Futaba don't really feel like egregious additions that much.
>I don't know how much you know about future characters that join, so feel free to not read and ignore this, but anyway, in terms of group dynamic the game could really do without Makoto.
makoto and ruins the dynamic. haru doesn't add anything. Those two could beremoved and nothing would change. Oh scratch that - those two can be removed and it would make the game beter because ratkoto won't be actively bringing it down
It's a writing issue more then anything, Makoto didn't need to take over the dynamic but I guess either >One of the writers really liked her and wanted to push her hard >Keeping the dynamic going with so many people was too hard for them so they gave up
Adding Yusuke still worked for group cohesion since he filled in the oddball position of the group. He's that one weirdo friend in the group. Plus him hanging out just worked since it feels like he has nothing better to do.
>Even Yusuke for me felt like an unnecessary addition
If you're in hard mode his accuracy is valuable over Ryuji who's more prone to miss. But in Normal mode he's pretty whatever.
The first real broken party memeber is Makoto who has basically everything and powercreeps Morgana pretty bad.
Not too much to talk there at this point. The game isn't exactly difficult and there isn't anything to hypermax or cheese. At this point it's just feels and seething over details.
In the original at least that was the case >autocast Rakukaja >AoE Rakukja >Starts with Mediarama and goes all the way to Mediarahan >Has an AoE phys move that inflicts an ailment >has poiny by point every single variation of Morgana's skill set except Recarm, which is easily replaced by revival beads.
Morgana very quickly becomes a healbot, a role anyone can do since items exist.
Makoto gets to compress Helabot, Frei Damage, buff defense (great with Ann's Tarunda), heal more dangerous ailments, and even melee if you run out of SP.
Weeb fantasy. The game may try to justify it by saying it was to raise money since she's being extorted, but the only reason is because it's weeb pandering, and we all know it.
Ryuji
He isnt a girl
Takemi in general.
But if we're talking about "important" waifus, then it's Yukiko of course.
He certainly acts like the biggest fricking b***h that is constantly on a period.
Yukari of course.
I agree.
Yukiko
Agreed.
ewwww she's SOOO old
Kasumi
P1: Yukino
P2: Ulala
P3: Aigis or Yuko
P4: Naoto
P5: Tae
just finished p3 so maybe it's just cause i'm still thinking about her but i love this hag so much
you don't get to frick her before you die...
don't remind me....
if the p3 remake rumors i've been hearing are true they better make her a real romance option and maiko too
>you don't get to frick her before you die...
>gets drunk in public and gets called a prostitute by Tanaka
>still the best Persona 3 girl
Toriumi is best girl just from the sheer gap moe.
morgana
Kanji
Look at all the real estate to paint with thick globs of cum
My god it's like her head was hiroshima'd and never recovered.
I will never understand the appeal to this b***h
Contrarians
she has the least amount of character development and screentime too
>Have a diverse cast of girls so people with different tastes can all find something they'd like
>Get called a contrarian if you happen to like one of the least popular girls
Also, don't pretend people actually give a shit about character development and screentime when it comes being a waifugay, because that would instantly eliminate most characters who aren't party members. People have always mostly thought with their dicks when it comes to this shit.
Haru is hot only if you imagine her being really freaky and risqué
I think shes hot when she's acting psycho.
She’s nice, big boob, and also has a decent sense of humor compared to the other girls. And she’s got a really cute pout face.
She's the secret freak
These animations are soulless
So are you.
Ok, that wink was charming, she gets some bonus points for that
Atlus hates Ann, and I'm the only one who cares,
Why does Atlus like the boring b***hes the most? You got Makoto obviously but also characters like Rise or Yukiko or Yukari
Atlus hates Yukari though
They literally don’t treat her badly. Outside of Aigis, no Persona 3 girl comes even remotely close to getting the amount of attention as Yukari does, Mitsuru and Fuuka don’t even have a chance to compete and Atlus doesn’t gives a frick about non-party characters so Yuko or Chihiro gets fricked anyways
That's not true at all. Mitsuru and Fuuka were neglected, but Yukari is in the spotlight as a punching bag. Definitely the case in the movies and The Answer
I haven't watched the movies so I can't say if Yukari gets fricked over in that or how or not. But in The Answer, regardless of how you think Yukari was written, I personally think the way her character was written in The Answer made sense and was true to her character, I don't think she's a likable character in The Answer and it feels like she didn't learn any lessons or retained any character development that was in The Journey (i.e. her being less b***hy) but I could sort of understand her being more selfish and a pain in the ass because when you tell an emotional teenager "you can revive your boyfriend again but only if you win the tenkaichi budokai" and everybody is against you and telling you that what you're doing is wrong besides Mitsuru which she arguably dislikes the most compared to Aigis or Fuuka, I could see why she is the way she is in The Answer, her back is against the wall, just because she wanted to see her boyfriend again, yes, they were in the right for why they need to be against her to prevent Nyx getting out again but Yukari isn't level-headed enough to think rationally about the situation. Yukari was still given most of the spotlight besides Aigis and Metis, and Metis doesn't really count because she's the enhanced version waifu, of course, Atlus will give her a shitload of attention and focus. Most of the cast does nothing in The Answer
I think that interview is sort of proof that as much Atlus thinks she is unpopular, I think it goes to show they kept trying to make Yukari work. They could've easily cut her out, replace her or change her role in the story like the Shogi girl in P5, but they still believed that Yukari was vital to the game's story and cast that they kept putting effort into her to make her stand alongside Aigis or MC. If she was truly a punching bag, Atlus would have just let the b***h rot and just say something like "she became a prostitute before P4A and that's why she's not here or any future games"
She's there to make Aigis look better
It’s a bit different to how The Journey does this scene to make Aigis seem more involved and closer to the Protagonist. But that’s always going to be the case, doesn’t mean Yukari is Atlus punching bag the same that they way treat Mitsuru or Fuuka where they consistently do nothing with them, they still keep Yukari relevant and doing shit even if the quality and results vary significantly or is done to make Aigis look better which tbf, Aigis is the better character compared to Yukari and is treated as the Persona 3 Mascot
Atlus does hate Yukari though. She only exists to wank Aigis
>They could've easily cut her out, replace her or change her role in the story like the Shogi girl in P5, but they still believed that Yukari was vital to the game's story and cast that they kept putting effort into her to make her stand alongside Aigis or MC.
She is vital to the themes of the storu, albeit not so much the actual plot.
She's kind of like Yuzu in Devil Survivor in that you get to see a more complete look out on how the plot is actually affecting people. Without Yukari it'd just be Akihiko amd Junpei being super gung-ho and Mitsuru being all businesses all the time with no drama to remind you that this isn't all fun and games. Specially early on.
Without her in the answer you'd never get to see how damaged the loss of your character, that is all the efforts you put in the first playthrough, had on her. Like after the most difficult year of her life she lost her family, she is on her way to lose her friends, she lost her emotional support, and she gets berated for trying to get it back. Like telling Isis she's a b***h for trying to get Osiris back from the river.
The thing is that people forget that drama is that spicy stuff that gives taste to a story, even if it's not always pleasant. And someone has to take the L in order to produce it.
Now whether the drama is good or not it's very debatable, however it's easy to see why the devs valued her in the plot so much.
chihiro is trash. fuuka best girl
>every character I don't like is boring
>gets offended that their boring waifu is being called boring
It could be worse, I could call them used goods
She wants ryuki dick deal with it, morgana
I don't play these game but I want to sex Mitsuru the most
Maya Amano
Why is royal ending lame? The original with everyone on the car was better but now they added dumb police and new characters goodbye who weren't good
the journey in p5 is the greatest but i think the ending is lame in both versions.. at least in royal there is a big finale (of course the god punisher bullet was epic but after that point it was lame)
shooting god in the fricking face was one of my true soiface moments
i think i was making the soi face when i reached that part too. i thought the yaldabaoth angle was kind of stupid but then arsene came out
I always thought it was weird they just ditch joker
becaue it's not canon
I'm a bit stupid, why were they chased by the police again? And why were they so casual about it?
I thought both endings were shit. Tbh I think every ending after 3 has been shit.
Kasumi was a shitty addition. The therapist guy was alright.
Kawakami
Ann because she has a 12 hour YouTube doc about her
can even split into two e-girls if she wants to. imagine the sexual possibilities.
>Yukari
Bitchzilla from the b***hific Ocean
>Fuuka
Can't cook, can't speak like a girl, seems to wear trashbags for clothes, may be horde of rats in suit must investigate further
>Mitsuru
HURR WHAT'S A HAMBURGER MARIN KARIN
>Aigis
Yeah, stick your dick in the broken murderous robot, what could possibly go wrong?
>Chihiro
Fujoshi in training, possibly bawd for manga
>Yuko
Delicious brow- oh frick me no, we met three weeks ago why the frick are you talking about babies oh I'm leaving
>Liz
Oh wow I don't understand human culture wooo- no but srsly let me suck your dick I'm fricking thirsty
>Chie
STEAK STEAK STEAK KUNG FU
>Yukiko
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M TRADITIONAALLLL
>Rise
Walking pile of STDs
>Naoto
Worst detective ever
>Marie
StupidATLUShowthedarngoshstupidjerkfrickdidyouthinkthiswasattractiveyouidiots
>Yumi
Forehead, pity frick me.
>Ayane
VEGETA! LOOK! IT'S... A POKEMON!!!
>Nanako
BIG BRO I LOVE YOU BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW CREEPY I'M BEING WHATS A e-girlCON
>Margaret
Wow bby ur lik so good at following fusion guides on the internet, wanna fug?
>Ai
Feel bad that I nearly committed suicide because a boy didn't like me.
>Ann
Even Ryuji knows what to do this one...
>Makoto
Hahaha oh wait Atlus was serious let me laugh even harder HAHAHHAHAHA
>Futaba
Hime cut = round head
>Haru
Too late for character development
>Chihaya
Oh right I have a vegana uhhh older chicks?
>Takemi
Doctors are the fourth most likely profession to have STDs
>Togo
Jesus watched you lewd.
>Kawakami
HEY SPEAKING OF STDS
>Ohya
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M BAAAAAACK
>Justine/Caroline
You're in jail for a reason
>Lavenza
Oh look at you, so original. I bet you know cool bands I've never even heard of and they're so great and all frick you
P1/P2 Girls:
No one's played that shit you fricking weeb.
The answer is none of them. There are no best girls.
>>Chie
>STEAK STEAK STEAK KUNG FU
BEST
>Yeah, stick your dick in the broken murderous robot, what could possibly go wrong
I'm willing to find out. For science.
>can't actually say anything bad about Aigis because she's perfect
>>Chie
>STEAK STEAK STEAK KUNG FU
Ummmm... Based???
Nice reddit post, dude
I miss when Persona used to have good wiafus
>all those literal whos instead of yukino
I'm gonna kill you to death motherfricker
Yukino received a huge downgrade in both her looks and personality wise and she added almost nothing to the story. Her being Maya's buddy was dumb. Maya already has a best female friend and her name is Ulala. Bringing back all the P1 characters in general was kind of unnecessary. If I was to remake P2 I would just keep all of them as background characters instead of party members.
Yukino is gross looking in 1 and 2
I want a full P2 remake just so they could add an option to romance Ulala
>date ulala
>all she does at night is drink, cry about being useless at 24 and beat you up when you ask her whats wrong
Maya is the real gf choice
>all she does at night is drink, cry about being useless at 24 and beat you up when you ask her whats wrong
That's the best part. Desperate old women (she's only 24 but it's Japan so you know) who need an emotional connection and warmth to help them are the best. The fact that she's tomboyish makes her even more perfect.
>only 24
Hagmaxxed even more for white women
>45 years old
>Stinky
>Severely autistic
>Can't drive to save her life
>No fashion sense
>Turbovirgin who still jerk offs to the feeling of kissing a guy 20 years ago
>Hairy armpits and pussy
>Her room is a fricking dirty mess
>Pads her bra
>Diet consists exclusively of cup ramen AND FRICKING ROTTEN CANNED CRAB ALL OVER HER FRIDGE
>Has to get dressed up by Ulala
>Her makeup is also done by Ulala
>Wears a loose dress with hearts on her breasts (she doesn't even know it's loose)
>Can barely even take care of herself
>Someone still tries to argue she's best girl
Do Mayagays really?
STINKY OLD PEOPLE SEX WITH MAYA PLEASE!!!
Sounds like best girl to me
she reeks of desperation. wish we could have yukino again instead
It still does even if Lisa is still the best.
>blonde with drills
I wish modern persona had a girl like this...
GIVE CHIKARIN GF
if you guys were the protagonist do you genuinely think you would have been able to stay loyal to one girl if they are all interested in you?
I feel like I’d have a tough time staying with Ann but I could do it.
yes because each game has only 1 girl i like. i would get their hopes up though ony to dash them in the end
Realistically if I was in p4 I would be picrelated.
I would definitely try to have a 3some with Chie and Yukiko.
I'd definitely stay loyal (especially in 4, I would never do anything that might hurt Chie), but I would feel sad about the rejections, some of these girls make you feel so bad for saying no
>I would never do anything that might hurt Chie)
She drops her panties instantly for Akihiko. She's not worth it, king.
>She drops her panties instantly for Akihiko
who doesn't? I'd drain his fricking balls of his precious protein
I see, unlike you I'm not a queer cuckold. Chie is for the streets.
>She drops her panties instantly for Akihiko.
Then that means that I'll have to work on myself so I'm more like Akihiko....
>has feelings for middle school guy until (you) mog him
>has feelings for (you) until akihiko shows up
>has feelings for akihiko until...
See what I'm getting at. Chie is a bawd who will upgrade to the next big chad every time.
>Chie is a bawd who will upgrade to the next big chad every time.
So my crush is failed to doom and yet I will still be there for her when she needs me...
you just need to surpass akihiko
This is NOT the type of woman you should fight for.
How is one simple person able to surprass such a man
It's alright anon, leave me behind, I appreciate your effort but you are right, I can't be saved
Until someone surpasses anon. It's a losing battle. Maybe he keeps Chie after she gets fat and walled.
Alright now slow down, I don't know if I like her THAT much
he dodges bullets
Actually he focuses on the arm holding the gun and dodges the path that the bullet would be fired from. He doesn't dodge the bullet itself.
i'm PRETTY sure in one of the movies he straight up dodges a mid air bullet
surpassing akihiko is a rewards of its own. becoming sexually attractive to chie and no way gayging her is just a bonus
>sexually attractive to chie
And then dumping her for Yukiko
I don't think I can dodge a bullet and I wouldn't want to try, so I guess my best shot is to just be myself and hope I get an amusement park visit and some wholesome time with her out of it
You can't be saved.
If you have to ask, you haven't been paying attention.
how the frick does she do it
do what? appeal to bugmen and twitter users?
No, make contrarians like you seethe.
you are an insecure freakazoid
This is all Makotogays ever do. She's basically just used as a smug pepe and that's all they like her for. Pebbledicks desperate for attention.
Sumiregays never do this.
Why is Yukiko always last out of the P4 girls?
she has no redeeming qualities
Persona 6 will be in Brazil, fighting evil adults in big scale.
goated OSTs?
my choice:
actually i change my mind this is my choice
Aigis. Always has been
>shorts and tshirt
>underwear
how's 18th century going, dude?
it's a meme, you dip
what meme? That every woman not wearing a burka is practically naked?
In his defence, that shit would drive me insane, too, if I couldn't find time or privacy to jack off.
just jerk off in a public toilet, or in the bushes at night
In the bushes at night, holy shit
Persona 5 ruined the series forever
Best girl wasn't datable. Gyaru s.link when?
Wait for the remake. Minato already had interactions with her in the movies.
>ruined the series forever
but enough about Persona 1 and 3
Persona 3 saved the series. It's a fantastic game with an incredibly emotional and deep story and human characters that actually feel real. Its core concept and themes are presented and explored in a very artistic way just like P1&2 did with theirs. P4&5 are just lazy and corporate copies of P3 and are way more shallow as a result and forgot what this series was even about, to begin with.
>P3cuck getting sensitive again
Persona 3 only exists to prolong the life of Atlus and when they realised that people like the waifu dating game about the power of friendship that is P3, that's when they decide to make P4 and P5. Persona 1 was the little snowball that was already destined to go downhill but Persona 3 was like that kid who gave that snowball a good push it needed to make it go downhill faster and to get bigger on the way down
Are we still pretending 3 was this well written 2deep4u game?
Yes, never underestimating the dick riding that 3gays will do to that game
It deserves it
never was never will be. worst game in the series and i mean it unironically
Persona 5 has its flaws, but I don't think it's an outright bad game. Akechi is one of the best characters of the series and basically carries the cast.
who?
oh that guy you barely interact with during the game
>Akechi is one of the best characters of the series
I just have a thing for appreciating characters who put up a silky, sociable front while being complete damaged idiots deep down. Sue me.
So why not pick Sumire then? She's fits that descriptor pretty well and is a well written character unlike akekchi
nta but sumire's trauma is unconvincing when joker says 5 random words and she's immediately back to her chipper self
He said damaged idiot not damaged geniuses
idk your crush can lighten your mood pretty quickly
All social links work like that tbh. I guess we're supposed to assume that joker says some shit in between, not just the lines player picks.
Bro, Akechi's heel turn is what ruins his character. He was a fantastic character before that and it turns him into one of the worst characters in the series. This anon
gets it right
no one gives a shit about your fetishes. akechi is still shit
What the frick is wrong with you? out of all the characters you could have chose as the one who "carries the cast" it is Akechi? I love most of the cast of P5 but you could have easily chosen somebody who is frequently interacts with the story more and is better written like Maruki. I mean frick, even some of the social links like Gun Dad, Kawakami or Sojiro is significantly better.
>one of the best characters
one of the most mid characters in the series is more accurate
>Akechi is one of the best characters of the series and basically carries the cast.
>Akechi is one of the best characters of the series and basically carries the cast.
>I will serve my dad who abandoned me and who I hate and I will commit a bunch of heinous shit to make him a prime minister so I can make him feel bad later
This. Akechi’s writing was a fricking mess. Dude carried out hit after hit for shido and no one gives a shit because he just wanted fwends all along 🙁
I felt worse watching madarame break down crying than I did watching akechi get gang raped by shadows
The whole thing with Madarame is complex. It's been a while since I played, but I do recall that he did actually care about Yusuke. Just he had other issues.
>by the way phantom thieves, I murdered all of your parents!
I think Akechi is a moron but he's pretty fun in the 3rd semester when he stops bullshit people and is just a c**t 24/7.
ok, dude, good bait. well done
>*touches your arm*
it's that easy
mishima
Persona 5 is too long and I'm talking about the original version. I have no idea how they pad it even more in Royal
>I have no idea how they pad it even more in Royal
They didn't? They shrunk down base P5 from a 90-100 hour long game to around 70-80 hours, roughly the same length as The Journey of P3 or P4. The last 20 hours of royal is all third semester, roughly the same length as the snowtrip in P4G or The Answer in P3Fes
I'm
not even a contest
Why do people like Makoto so much? She's dogshit.
Because the game tells you that you must like her.
people are easily manipulated to think if you write your character super straight faced, dull and pretentious, it somehow convinces fools to forgive it's deep character writing and is "realistic", same shit with yukari, boring b***h but somehow convinces idiots she has layers of depth
"If I like this smart and mature character, then I am smart and mature!"
It's just one of those, purely for superiority complex gays
who the hell thinks Yukari is smart or mature? She's almost as immature as Junpei or Ken but at least Ken tries to act mature for his age and Junpei eventually wises up, if The Answer is anything to go by, she's matured the least out of the cast.
being a writer's pet helps
She's a bit more bland and inoffensive compared to others which gives her more wide scale appeal, one of the writers clearly likes her (while one clearly hates Ryuji) and some gays seem to simp for her English VA (I think she plays the female main character in Cyberpunk).
Cute butt and her autistic hyper competent genius bit means she'll develop a perfect rhythm for giving blow jobs.
Ratkoto isn't a genius, she just applies an INT debuff aura to adjacent targets
Oi shuujin!
>no lavenza daughterfu who worships the ground you walk on
mitsuru
Tae Takemi
For me?
>Lisa
>Mitsuru
>Rise
>Anne
this is the longest game I've ever played in my life
I'm not even finished yet, I only just got to the bottom of maruki's mementos
Is Royal much longer then 4 Golden? Because I'm 27 hours into Golden and have just started the bit where I have to find that weird guy who was acting weird with Yukiko at the start of the game, and someone told me getting Rise is the halfway point.
dude, how are you this bad at the game?
Fair enough, it's the best 8/10 game i've played
10 hours give or take, I clocked in P4G at around 85 hours doing all the side content, social links and getting to max level on all my characters. P5R I basically did the same thing, maxed out confidants, finished all the requests, etc. etc. and clocked in around 96 hours
>how are you this bad at the game?
what does length have to do with skill
I'm playing on hard and it was disappointingly easy
I just don't get how you've played this game for 130 hours and haven't finished it yet. I can get it if you were doing a 100% run or trying to experience the game as much as possible in your first run. But I don't get how you go above 130 hours on a single playthrough, even in a margin of error sense, you should've been done at around 110 hours at most
my in-game save file is at 85 hours
I don't know how they count it or where I picked up 40 hours because it's not like I've left the game running in the background or something
That's the only reason I can think of why your steam time says that. It's not like it adds time for shits and giggles. Unless you have to go back to an earlier save or died and have to retry, some shit like that.
ohya
Only good if you imagine she likes to frick Joker and make him cum really quickly while being smug/wienery
I'm with you. Sad drunk trying her best is actually my type. I really like her.
forever and always
which girl could finish the Big Bang challenge?
Your mom
chie
The one you like the most, obviously. For me, ít's these three
Not bad taste though for me Anne is just a little better then Haru.
Good taste, but i would include Chihaya too
Haru > Kawakami > Takemi > Chihaya >> Hifumi >>>>>> Futaba >>>>>>>>> Trash > Makoto and Kisumi
You forgot Ann
>p3
Yukari > Mitsuru > fuuka = aigis
Fuuka and Aigis are both trash. The only real options are Yukari and Mitsuru, and it's essentially a choice between the girl next door, and the idealized perfect woman. Even though they're better characters, they're shittier waifus.
>p4
Yukiko > Chie > Rise > naoto
P4 had a diverse cast of waifus that are all very polarizing. Previously I was a diehard Chiegay, but the spinoffs had her lusting after akihiko too hard. I ended up liking Yukiko better over the years anyway because she's more elegant and I find her repressed sadistic attitude kind of hot.
>p5
Ann > Haru > ratkoto > futaba
All of the p5 waifus are respectable, and have the smallest gaps between them. Ann was simply the hottest one.
I don't include any non party members because they might as well not even be characters.
>Ann was simply the hottest one
Indeed. Wish she dressed more like a gyaru, tho, her summer uniform was the closest we got
Why are fishnet stockings so hot bros?
They just are
Yeah, her down animation is... they knew what they were doing
It is a mystery.
Her catsuit did it for me tbh.
Is Strikers worth playing?
it's pretty decent, probably the best of the persona spin-offs. Story kinda sucks but gameplay is pretty good
I prefer it to Arena but that's just because I'm not a big fighting games guy.
yeah
music, zenkichi and sophia are great
also i liked the japan travel sim aspect
It's not your traditional musou, but it's good. All the new characters completely mog Kasumi
It's alright for a Musou game. Zenkichi is a fun character as well, and while I know it's a meme to say "persona should have a college student/adult party" I wouldn't mind having one or two older party members.
Worth one playthrough, first dungeon is a slog though because you gotta constantly pop out of the dungeon to heal before you get auto SP gain.
Makoto is best girl no matter how much you seethe.
How so?
Because she's more of a town bike than Ann is
Figures
The only answer is Margaret. But picrel is definitely the worst with Chie.
Shit taste
cringe incel Gankerirgin gays detected
Horrid taste
Maya
Fuuka
appearance wise its gotta be ann. personality wise... well, they all kinda suck no cap
fr fr on god
That's a millenial Chie
Probably just as a bad, if not, worse than a zoomer chie
Ohya, unironically
>reach evening
>3 messages
>ohya, chihaya and some gay from job
>ignore and study, despite having max knowledge
>study, despite having max knowledge
This is just poor gameplay
Anon, buddy, fella, bucko, pardner, friend... it was a joke
It wasn't funny
The hate of Ohya is confusing to me. Her behavior and personality is really endearing. She's just so cuuuute
She's boring and her confidant is whatever, and isn't useful for gameplay reasons, her design is cute, tho, only thing that salvages her
Looks better than some gay with purple skin and a cape, same with Odin from SMT V
Odin actually looked good though.
>design is cute
>design is actually sticks wearing a hollowed out bowling ball
????
If only the benefit from her confidant was actually good.
Not the best reason to value any of the Persona women
Haru = Futaba > Kawamommy > Tae > Ann > everyone else > Cringe Shogi Lost All Subscriber > shit > piss > Ohya
Switch Futaba and Ann around and it's golden.
Makoto > all
>unkills Tetsuoka
>unsuffers Tatsuya
>unlocks Door-kun
>unkills Shinji
>makes P3ko canon
>unkills Nanako's mom
>unkills Futaba's mom and Haru's dad
>unrapes Shiho
>BUT HE'S... LE BAD BECAUSE SUFFERING IS LE GOOD
Persona 5 is so moronic.
You don't understand Shiho needed to be raped not once, but twice.
He's bad because brainwashing is objectively evil
Cope, relativistic morality tard
>brainwashing is objectively evil
That means the Phantom Thieves are bad too, right?
Yes, actually. The game admittedly doesn't go into it as much as they should, but the characters frequently question their actions throughout.
This is most clearly highlighted when they find the palace owners shadows inside the Chalices jail, representing how their actions and methods, while just on the surface level, have fed into a much greater evil. Artificially forcing bad people to undergo a sudden and dramatic personality change is a violation of their God-given humanity and dignity, something that even evil people have a right to.
Maruki's actions are also a moral reckoning for the Phantom Thieves. For the first time, they are subject to the effects of 'heart changing' firsthand, and once they break out of it, they feel deeply violated and uncomfortable with what was done to them.
The overall lesson of P5R is that you should not take shortcuts when it comes to punishing the wicked or coping with your own issues, that effort and struggle validates your existence in reality. The dissolving of the Phantom Thieves at the end of the game is incidental, but it is the most morally sound action the team ever takes.
Until Strikers were they come back.
Yes, unfortunately it's not uncommon for the Dynasty Warrior spinoffs of all these games to miss the point in exchange for HECKIN COOL fights
The same applies to Age Of Calamity when they made it an alternate story for no reason and undermined the major theme of loss from BotW
tbf they don't steal desires anymore, their method changes to be more therapeutic
still through magic cognition place though
I haven't played Strikers, what's the difference in how they do it now?
Investigate the source of their target's actions, any kind of trauma or injustice suffered in their past
Fight with shadow until they submit, then confront them with the truth and change their cognition through reflection, they all end up feeling bad and confess in real life
Still kinda bullshit since they use the metaverse but at least they don't brainwash anymore, feels more organic
sounds pretty much the same. that said i don't care if you morons do mental gymnastics to calling joker and co evil brainwashers. piece of shit criminials deserve brainwashing and even worse. whould just outright kill them
>Yes, actually. The game admittedly doesn't go into it as much as they should, but the characters frequently question their actions throughout.
I just wish that the Phantom Thieves were challenged more. Everything conveniently falls into place by talk-no-jutsu. There's no real "oh shit we fricked up" moment in the entire game.
YES, that's exactly what I mean, they skirt along the lines of going "Hey, do you guys think what we're doing is fricked up?" but then immediately after, Joker has three talking options that all basically amount to "lol no".
It's so dumb, but I think Atlus just doesn't have the balls to make their super kewl teen squad even slightly at fault.
I do think some of them were justified as self defense. Though that's mostly due to deadlines and circumstances. Haru's dad was probably when it started being unjustified.
I think Madarame is the most unjustified example, myself. The deadline is based on the gang's own trespassing on his property, and if they were smart, all they had to do was bring a camera and take pictures of the Sayuri copies and take them to the police as proof of scamming. Or, you know, share what you found with Ohya who was EXPLICITLY investigating Madarame and would've sicced a bunch of newspapers on his ass.
There was a bunch of ways to deal with him that didn't involve taking his heart, that was pure laziness on the Phantom Thieves part.
>That means the Phantom Thieves are bad too, right?
>And yet that's all you do to people in the game as phantom thieves.
"I have never played the game": the Post
>brainwashing is objectively evil
And yet that's all you do to people in the game as phantom thieves. So why is it bad to do it to make someone happy but good to do it to punish someone?
See here
>unlocks door-kun
Are you sure you wanna know what's behind that door? It was fricking scary when it was at its weakest and it has only grown stronger.
Did nothing wrong
I did not really care for Haru, but seeing her spend time with her father, helping him with his business, him being all nice, made me a bit sad when I had to be like "Yo Haru, sorry but it's not real, we are going to fight for a world where your dad is dead"
>Phantom Girls
Haru>Ann>Futaba>Makoto>Sophia>Kasumi
>Normies
Sadayo>Tae>Chihaya>Hifumi>Ohya
Why did they ruin my boy Loki?
I like his design.
looks really fricking cool tbh, just a shame that you cant use him
You can. But Akechi is a homosexual. Frick him. He's dead. Good riddance. Press S.
akechi and joker are the best thing outta persona 5 and they make a very unique and cool duo
You can, but i wish the game could let you get him via fusions, just like all the other SMT games
i bet you cant use the moves akechi uses during his boss phase
I'd like Haru more if they leaned into making her more of an Ojou or the psycho part.
She goes deeper into psycho territory in Strikers.
I've heard that and they make her some road rage psycho driver, just wish it was played up more.
It's not so much road rage as it is maniacal joy. Also she leans further into "axe murderer" territory.
Strikers not having any romance stuff is lame
I just think she's cute and nice:)
I think you're cute and nice anon 😉
?
P2 Maya
P3 Aigis
P4 Chie
P5 uhhhhhh, your mom
Sph with Yukiko
Is this like Nocturne where the monsters evolve after hitting a certain level? I love that Pokemah type of shit.
Persona doesn't do that. Hell, SMTV didn't even do that, even if I wish it did.
So no digi-evolving? Damn. I loved that shit.
Doesn't this only apply to your first Pixie in Nocturne?
What? No. Pretty much every demon can evolve to some other demon. Like you can start with Angel and eventually get all the angel-type demons just by levelling that initial Angel.
Really
I can't remember any of that although I suppose it has been years since I played
Nocturne was my first SMT game so that got seared into my mind. I wish the rest of the games kept that evolving thing going forward. Having to delete or fuse demons just feels me with sadness.
If I remember right, I think Nekomata also evolved.
Isn't there some bonus you can get in Nocturne if you stick with the initial Pixie throughout the entire game?
Yes
Either Pixie or the result of using her for fusion
Transforms into giga homie Pixie 3000 once you reach a certain point
I just beat Futaba's palace so I'm going with her. Ann has the best ass though got damn
I think the thing I like most about Ann is that she actually felt like a friend in the group along with Ryuuji and Yusuke. Like cohesion wise, they actually formed a nice group that would hang out together. The latter characters I just don't see hanging out as much outside of Joker.
I am playing the game for the first time and i right now i am after the second Palace. I just can't think about the party getting bigger. You pretty much stick with Ryuuji and Ann for a good while. Even Yusuke for me felt like an unnecessary addition, but i like his story so far. Felt like something straight out of those depressing/melodramatic animes.
Still i can't see how the next set of characters will feel as a group dynamic.
I don't know how much you know about future characters that join, so feel free to not read and ignore this, but anyway, in terms of group dynamic the game could really do without Makoto. And as much as I love Haru, the game could do without her, too. I don't even like Futaba, but I'll begrudgingly accept that she's a valuable addition in terms of usefulness and group chemistry. While I'd say the original four already feels like they're a full team, Yusuke and Futaba don't really feel like egregious additions that much.
>I don't know how much you know about future characters that join, so feel free to not read and ignore this, but anyway, in terms of group dynamic the game could really do without Makoto.
makoto and ruins the dynamic. haru doesn't add anything. Those two could beremoved and nothing would change. Oh scratch that - those two can be removed and it would make the game beter because ratkoto won't be actively bringing it down
The problem is when Makoto shows up, the dynamic kind of dies and moreso once Futaba also arrives.
nah. futaba is good because she actually brings something unique to the group no one else can do
It's a writing issue more then anything, Makoto didn't need to take over the dynamic but I guess either
>One of the writers really liked her and wanted to push her hard
>Keeping the dynamic going with so many people was too hard for them so they gave up
Adding Yusuke still worked for group cohesion since he filled in the oddball position of the group. He's that one weirdo friend in the group. Plus him hanging out just worked since it feels like he has nothing better to do.
plus he's also best boy
>Even Yusuke for me felt like an unnecessary addition
If you're in hard mode his accuracy is valuable over Ryuji who's more prone to miss. But in Normal mode he's pretty whatever.
The first real broken party memeber is Makoto who has basically everything and powercreeps Morgana pretty bad.
I think he means narratively rather then gameplay wise.
Yeah I tend to forget people don't really talk about the gameplay too much
To be fair that's because it's piss easy.
Not too much to talk there at this point. The game isn't exactly difficult and there isn't anything to hypermax or cheese. At this point it's just feels and seething over details.
>The first real broken party memeber is Makoto who has basically everything and powercreeps Morgana pretty bad.
Ludo as frick
In the original at least that was the case
>autocast Rakukaja
>AoE Rakukja
>Starts with Mediarama and goes all the way to Mediarahan
>Has an AoE phys move that inflicts an ailment
>has poiny by point every single variation of Morgana's skill set except Recarm, which is easily replaced by revival beads.
Morgana very quickly becomes a healbot, a role anyone can do since items exist.
Makoto gets to compress Helabot, Frei Damage, buff defense (great with Ann's Tarunda), heal more dangerous ailments, and even melee if you run out of SP.
makoto is a worse end game party member than both ryuji and ann though
Margaret. it's such a shame she's not a persona 5 attendant or you'd be able to tap tat milf ass for sure
Is the teacher really selling herself as a maid/prostitute? What the frick was that bullshit?
Weeb fantasy. The game may try to justify it by saying it was to raise money since she's being extorted, but the only reason is because it's weeb pandering, and we all know it.
uh, I don't care.
All Persona girls have this weird thing where their portrait looks fricked but their model looks good
Or vice versa
Which ones look fricked to you?
Ann and Haru for example
Portraits look messed up but the models look fine
Qts.
what's with the non stop persona 5 threads lately?
Ganker has had constant persona threads for over a decade.
not this constant. they areliterally non-stop now. sometimes there are several up at once
P3 and 4 are being released on Xbox + switch, and there are rumors of a p3 remake.
Isn't 3 portable and 4 golden coming to current/next gen consoles in a week?
maybe, i don't keep up with vidya news, but it's all p5 and occasional p2 threads though
I've seen a few for 4. Also there's a rumor about a Persona 3 remake being announced this year floating around recently.
no
This post was typed by imaginary cognitive fingers.
The game hit gamepass fairly recently
you will never share a christmas with naoto
Good. She's as bad as Makoto for the other party members becoming non existent, she just shows up later so people don't care as much.
Cope
Should I yet the smt3 remaster for $20?
== GODDESS TIER ==
Elizabeth
Lavenza
== WAIFU TIER ==
Caroline
Justine
Rise
Aegis
Haru
Sakura
Chie
== MEH TIER ==
Makoto
Mitsuru
Yukiko
Naoto
Ann
P3FP
Fuuka
== TRASH TIER ==
Yukari
Margaret
>Lavenza
Opinion disregarded.
Disregard disregarded.
Disregarding your disregard of my disregard
Disregarded.
>Persona 1
Elly
>Persona 2
Maya
>Persona 3
Yukari easily
>Persona 4
Ai Ebihara
>Persona 5
Ann easily and for the adult Taekemi easily