Why are americans like this?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what was purpose of the institute

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to replace the shack obessed surface dwellers with agents that can be repurposed for proper settlement habitation
      aka frick toddy boy and his shack city

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >all wastelanders have been replaced by robots
        >they build sick ass settlements for nobody to live in
        Now what?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Worked for China

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to revive humanity but people kept trying to kill them so they replaced key people in the commonwealth to stunt their growth and stop them from ever finding them until Father was a let the Sole Survivor out for sentimental reasons and secured his own downfall that may or may not have been intentional as his dying wish

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Robots all over the commonwealth, indistinguishable from people
      >but why Dutch
      So we can spy on people and prevent them from rebuilding
      >don't we want to rebuild
      Yes Arthur
      >when are we doing that
      SOON WE JUST NEED TIME
      >a lot of these synths ain't even helping us, hell some of them like that Sturges fella are actually fighting against us
      IT'S COMPLEX ARTHUR
      >and a lot of them go their whole lives apparently not communicating with the Institute at all
      IT'S DEEP WORLDBUILDING ARTHUR
      >don't they already have crows and invisible coursers to keep track of everyone anyways, and who the hell needs 24/7 surveillance of random farms owned by 3 people
      HAVE SOME GODDAMNED FAITH

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I went with Institute for my first playthrough back when I was an immature 25 year old. I figured they were the best hope for rebuilding society given the lush nature of their facility and their advanced technology. 9 years later and many project managers since, I've been replaying due to all the recent discussion and realized that they're a bunch of homosexuals who sit on their hands and are all talk no action. They will never accomplish anything aside from having their productive and skilled subordinates waste time due to internal squabbles and dick measuring contests between upper management. No one with power is working for the greater good, but is only attempting to make themselves look better than everyone else. The Institute, were it actually following its purpose, would be the best choice despite the Super Mutants and kidnappings. Everyone with decision making powers in that place is Dutch.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When you take over The Institute you broadcast a speech to reconnect with the surface, take over Diamond City and send out synth patrols to keep commonwealth safe. The player is the change that the Institute needed, that's the point. They were slowly working towards being better from the inside and it culminates with Shaun being the one who brings in Nate.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >immature 25 year old

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tah luh hassee

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >crows
        Forgot about that. Talk about an underused idea

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remind me about the crows, it's been a few years since last I played FO4

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >SYNTHETIC MANGOS ARTHUR

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      creating fake gorillas for reasons

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They can bring back extinct animals. Also they unleash them on BoS and the gorillas destroy them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those are fake animals

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >basically what reddit see themselves as when asked how they would fix the world
      its basically a hyper-ideallistic view of science as panacea. Dont know if that was intended with all the flaws or some devs personal fanfic. Either way, I still think it serves its purpose as the complete opposite of BoS, both being 2 major factions in FO4, just like the NCR vs Legion was in FO:NV

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To replace humanity with an obedient Eloi caste. If I could change all of you for robo-girls that work for me, fight my enemies and contend for the privilege of sucking my wiener, I would too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To create synthetic humans but have them be exact duplicates of living humans for some reason, possibly because someone on the writing staff liked The Thing (especially the line where they question if they would even realize they were the Thing).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be the wacky scientist faction.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Originally to "redefine humanity", to augment mankind with technology and synthetic enhancements to increase quality of life but along the line they lost focus of that and began to just experiment for the sake of experimenting. Shaun scraps the project entirely after Kellogg.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To provide wastelanders with sentient sex dolls but they kept killing them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bethesda trying to make a "complex" villain by not telling you anything.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To keep you away from sexbots

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they needed another commie in their freedom vs communism narrative after the last one got nuked

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Institute was Bethesda's attempt at creating a morally grey dictatorship centered around technology but instead made an organization and society that's technologically inept compared to other Fallout factions.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whatever happened to the Shi? I don't believe they popped up after 2. I would assume they got absorbed into the NCR but you'd expect some of the brain power to have transferred.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They got weapon skins in FO4, I guess.
          Obsidian wanted to destroy them in FNV (as a reference to Van Buren's original plot) but Bethesda rejected the idea because they wanted to use them for a future game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shoehorning in an AI plotline since that was really hot at the moment

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To replace all of humanity with obedient slaves that they have iron control over.
      Thus they are the #1 globohomosexual faction.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      purpose??

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SCIENCE, b***h!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be a foil to the brotherhood
      They're the brotherhood (pre fallout 3) if they weren't isolationist luddites and instead on the other extreme
      >but that's stupid
      Yeah fallout makes fun of politics by pushing extreme positions to their logical conclusions that's the point. None of the factions are meant to be taken seriously

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That line plays if you fail a speech check asking why he hired Kellogg. If you pass it he explains why he kept Kellogg around.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it ever explained why Kellogg is over a 100 years old and not a synth? What sort of cybernetics is this dude rocking?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nick says that Kellogg is more machine than human so it must be some heavy stuff

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I imagine Kellogg is basically the protagonist of a non-existent Fallout game, getting all the useful perks and cybernetics that non-existent DLC has to offer.

          It also makes zero sense how and why someone who has nearly a century of combat experience would die like a b***h to someone who stepped out of a cryopod like not even a month ago. Kellogg should've been literally the final boss.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's why Nate being a synth on the level of coursers makes sense

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One was ancient wastelander, kept alive by experimental tech abandoned to die by his bosses, the other was a perfectly healthy pre war soldier with over six hundred confirmed kills on Canadian civilians.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the other was a perfectly healthy pre war soldier with over six hundred confirmed kills on Canadian civilians.
              Not on Nora playthroughs.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nora playthrough
                Noncanon delusional what-if playthroughs.
                Imagine a female Fallout protag LOL

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nora: Per article 8, subparagraf 3 of the Provision To De-escalate Domestic Cybernetic Enhancement & Soil Contamination, your enhancements are illegal and require an authentication through the filing of request schema 183-A and 183-AB to the county police department of the county you spent the first 3 years of high school granted you were not given a probationary period for a health defect, physical or mental, within the first 16 years of your life 2.5 years after your naming day.
                >Kellogs: Nooo I can't see through all this red tape I'm just going to literally kill myself

                While you were playing around with your guns, Nora studied the law.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        conveniently kellogg is the only test subject in the cybernetics program that was shut down for no reason despite its obvious success so that kellogg would look the same age so as not to immediately reveal the stupid plot twist that 50 years have passed between the first and second unfreezing despite no one giving a shit and immediately correctly guessing that a completely unknown amount of time has passed between the two and running around looking for your kid with the assumption that he is the same age is nonsensical
        >Proposal:
        >Build on existing Institute research into implants/cybernetics to augment human capabilities and lifespan. Previous program met with limited success in a single subject; using a broader array of subjects and new techniques could prove highly effective.
        >Approval:
        >Rejected - Director
        >Notes: None given

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cyborgs are harder to control than synths

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok and? Are you telling me that Kellogg is the only useful/competent merc they had in decades that they would want to keep around? None of the aging scientists wanted to add another century to their lifespan?
            If loyalty is such a worry just add a kill switch

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why use mercs and make them cyborgs when you have synths.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the syths are faulty and, as I expressly stated, cyborg research would benefit the scientists who would have a self insert in the research

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >BURNING INNOCENT VILLAGES TO THE GROUND, RAPE, MISOGYNY, SLAVERY, MASS MURDER, DESTROYING CULTURES, GENOCIDE,MURDERING HOMOSEXUALS AND CRUCIFYING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND BURNING BABIES IS GOOD BECAUSE…IT JUST IS OKAY?!
    >obsidiots think this is good and logical writing
    The institute makes sense. They have realistic goals for humanity beyond barbarism.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How does releasing super mutants aid humanity?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't, which is why the FEV research is destroyed by an Institute scientist.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They’re still out there and their numbers aren’t dwindling.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You send out synth patrols if you take over on surface. They will take care of them. And supermutants can also be cured now thanks to Brian Virgil.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BURNING INNOCENT VILLAGES TO THE GROUND, RAPE, MISOGYNY, SLAVERY, MASS MURDER, DESTROYING CULTURES, GENOCIDE,MURDERING HOMOSEXUALS AND CRUCIFYING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND BURNING BABIES IS GOOD BECAUSE…IT JUST IS OKAY?!
      Based and true

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >CHADsar literally explains his reasons
      >TARDaun has no explanation
      Fallout 4 is slop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Institute did all those things but with le science so you don't care.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah because no civilization has ever committed atrocities and yet thought they were the good guys, a fair point sister

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The institute makes sense
      tell that to the smoldering crater that used to be the Institute

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Top was written to be a cartoonishly evil faction lead by an idiot. The writers did not consider them worth joining and barely gave them any content.

        Bottom is a failed speech check when you ask Shaun about Kellogg that people take out of context.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Avellone is talking out his ass to try to appease his progtard butt buddies. Just like he said "oh joshua graham and daniel were supposed to be black and asian, but somehow they ended up white in the official release!" Frick off, you lying sack of shit. Sorry that you don't have a time machine and can't go back to make new vegas as gay and lame as you would make it nowadays.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Obsidian has openly lamented that they ran out of time to show the beneficial aspects of Legion controlled land. They end up as cartoonishly, irredeemably evil, but to say they were "written to be" that way is moronic when it was a function of NV's crunch, not intended.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They were written like that. They had all the time to make a bunch of DLCs but gave up on Legion.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >chris whining about misogyny, proving what a nice guy he is
              Post it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >turns out to be a rapist

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >wins the countersuit
                Oh no, soiyergays, how will smear avellone now?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you sue your victim you're not a rapist anymore

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >libel someone
                >get proven to have committed libel
                >get your dumb thot ass countersued
                Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vince is innocent though. The story and lawsuit the girl and her lawyer are filing is getting so ridiculous that Johnny Ace just switched back to Vince's side.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So is Avellone. Proven innocent in the eyes of the law. The accusers now have to pay him.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And then Lanius ends up being an even bigger moron that dooms the whole Legion.
          BRAVO AVELLONE

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I consider this noncanon, only added because Fallout has a tradition of being able to talk down the final boss.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I consider this noncanon, only added because Fallout has a tradition of being able to talk down the final boss.

            Except the argument presented to Lanius is actually spot fricking on. "Occupying Nevada would be as wasteful and draining for you as it currently is for the NCR", is true. The only bad way to talk down Lanius is to try to bluff him by suggesting the NCR set up a trap akin to boulder city, because if they actually did, why the frick would you tell him.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Search why this homosexual was "added" to the npc list in fallout 1.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol
      lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer this motivation

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/JJcPlTo.jpeg

        Why are americans like this?

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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Writing an evil faction is not inherently endorsing their vision.
      The fact that you can't separate storytelling from reality is the reason you're on the designated shitting street board screaming about how hard you got filtered.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Leftists disagree. It's why they can't write villains for shit and what attempts at writing villains they do have all blend together.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not good. It does "work", and it's up to you to decide if that's good enough. Personally, I don't.
      >The institute makes sense. They have realistic goals
      They don't have any fricking goals. They're even more evil and moronic than the legion. They undermine the very fabric of society for literally no reason.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The master, who was schizophrenic moron, had a more coherent and understandable plan than the institute. He wanted to end all conflict by getting rid of racial differences by turning everyone into mutt golem slaves. Then eat them so he could eventually span the planet in biomass.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They've been trying to warn us about israelites for decades, huh?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's fighting brutality with brutality, because it is the only things the raiders and tribals will respect. Most gang members you can ask about the Legion talk about how they have no interest in messing with them because of how brutal and powerful they are.

      It works to create a safe land out of chaos.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They have realistic goals for humanity
      Which are?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can ask Caesar and he will respond, sadly you can't say the same for shaun, cowshit eating browntard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's ironic that the "stupid barbarian slavers" have a more understandable plan than the epic science boys in fallout 4 even if you don't agree with it or think it would work.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOO MY HECKIN MODERN SENSIBILITIES!
      Every nation was created the same way. Every nation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Legion weren't bad guys. They were just brutal as frick when it came to following rules and made it absolute hell for criminals. Ask the caravan traders their opinion on the Legion and they'll say the Legion's roads are much safer than the NCR's. There were many emperors in history that had a 0 tolerance towards crime/corruption and they'd kill people left and right and the net result was everyone (including senators and powerful people) following the rules out of fear of the Caesar. The USA could use a powerful emperor right now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Legion were bad guys

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The Institute tried for 4 years to form a government on surface.
    >Even after the Broken Mask incident where an unauthorized synth was sent to surface and malfunctioned, resulting in multiple deaths of civilians.
    >The constant infighting made them realize it will not work. Some people at The Institute still didn't want to give up.
    >When it was about to fall apart it ended in bloodshed. The story is that a synth killed everyone, possibly to erase loose ends which is how the Institute seems to operate. As there are more instances of that.
    >Like wiping out entire settlement because they refused to hand over vital reactor technology
    >The Institute withdraws completely. They send synths on surface to be their eyes. They also have informants and the vicious cyborg Kellogg. Which is later disposed of by Shaun with the help of Nate.
    >They don't actually replace people at first. Many of the synths you encounter escaped. Not because they were unhappy, the synths inside the Institute praise Father.
    >But because one of the scientists is helping them escape and Railroad gives them a new life.

    1/2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >yeah we are sick of these surface dwellers, no matter how many times we try to negotiate they don't trust us
      >we didn't even stamp the form to unleash the insane infiltration robot we built on their community, we hold no blame for the guys it pulled apart
      >clearly there's no reason with them, let's keep them in a constant state of misery for decades, flooding the surface with synth swarms, super mutants (which we made out of those guys we kidnap every week for no reason) and more infiltration killbots
      >meanwhile we made a gorilla. that'll help matters down here

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Then the Institute replaces Mayor McDonough to calm down the paranoia.
    >Other replaced synth is a farmer who does research. The whole family will be wiped out for loose ends. One of the scientists feels remorse because of this.
    >The infamous FEV research made to enhance synths that abducted people is destroyed by Brian Virgil. Started by the real villain of the Institute Dr. Zimmer.
    >Shaun plans to finish the reactor and become completely cut off from surface because he lost hope in it. Which stems from the mismanagement that Institute was founded on and their disdain for surface.
    >He does so and plans to hand over the Institute to his Father Nate.
    >Nate can then express interest in the surface, broadcast a speech, take over Diamond City and send out synth patrols to make commonwealth safer.

    The Institute is a complex faction with turmoil inside. All these years were leading up to the moment where all the mismanagement is dealt with and the Institute helps Commonwealth. Throwing it away would be foolish, it is the biggest hope for humanity. And Far Harbor showed how synths could be extremely useful to create peace by replacing stubborn or delusional faction leaders.

    2/2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >extremely useful to create peace by replacing stubborn or delusional faction leaders.
      Yes because one faction being in control of all this is the right thing to do.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bro its okay we're using espionage to unperson people and have them replaced as well as making fev and releasing super mutants because we're gonna clone (an extremely common science) animals that'll probably die to the wasteland anyway and bring people under our heel or else! We're the good guys can't you see!!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Replacing people for the benefit of everyone like you do in Far Harbor can be extremely useful and save lives. FEV is destroyed, super mutants can be cured. Animals won't die if there is a good environment for them. Even cats managed to survive in the post-apocalypse. You can find Gorillas in the Nuka-World safari world but they are ghoulified.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Replacing people for the benefit of everyone like you do in Far Harbor can be extremely useful and save lives.
          I feel that way about the institute, let's replace them all 🙂

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not if you get replaced first
            You now love The Institute and have nothing but praise for it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really don’t think in a sequel bethesda will throw away the institute. We’ll probably never have contact with them again beyond some rumor while in a foreign land but its probably the canon resolution. I just don’t see bethesda killing this faction they created, their only unique contribution to fallout.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Institute tried for 4 years to form a government on surface.
      >Even after the Broken Mask incident where an unauthorized synth was sent to surface and malfunctioned, resulting in multiple deaths of civilians.
      >The constant infighting made them realize it will not work. Some people at The Institute still didn't want to give up.
      >When it was about to fall apart it ended in bloodshed. The story is that a synth killed everyone, possibly to erase loose ends which is how the Institute seems to operate. As there are more instances of that.
      >Like wiping out entire settlement because they refused to hand over vital reactor technology
      >The Institute withdraws completely. They send synths on surface to be their eyes. They also have informants and the vicious cyborg Kellogg. Which is later disposed of by Shaun with the help of Nate.
      >They don't actually replace people at first. Many of the synths you encounter escaped. Not because they were unhappy, the synths inside the Institute praise Father.
      >But because one of the scientists is helping them escape and Railroad gives them a new life.

      1/2

      Imagine making dozens of these images and spamming them almost every day.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Started by the real villain of the Institute Dr. Zimmer
      Why did Father keep it going for 10 years when Virgil himself says he doesn't know why they are doing it?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does anybody have that meme from the fallout 4 demos where one of the dialogue options was "HATE [SOMETHING]"
    don't remember what the [something] was

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I HATE NEWSPAPERS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Newspapers just like to stir up trouble
        Is he wrong?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not certain, but if I recall right all the examples of pre-war papers in 4 (ie the one's he'd be familiar with) are inoffensive in the same squeaky-clean idyllic way the rest of the pre-war world is depicted in that game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He isn't wrong

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thanks I needed that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Here's your headline: Local man says no
        Sarcastic dialogue is cringe but that had me rolling

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        O

        Killable NPC mod too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "NEWSPAPERS could be here," he thought. "I've never been to Diamond City before, there could be NEWSPAPERS anywhere."

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Turbo coursed through is thick, powerful veins, washing away his (merited) fear of newspapers after dark. "With a vertibird, you can go anywhere you want," he said to himself, out loud.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Turbo coursed through is thick, powerful veins, washing away his (merited) fear of newspapers after dark. "With a vertibird, you can go anywhere you want," he said to himself, out loud.

          Heartly kek

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather live in a dirt-filled post-apocalyptic shithole than be ruled over by synthetic robots. Frick synths and frick the Institute.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I helped Shaun destroy the other factions and took over The Institute.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chad move, you’re a true fallout fan.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      destroying the railroad is so satisfying.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    topical

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the institute was an allegory for israel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You just say that because they’re infiltrators placing their people in charge, and people call the BoS nazis. It’s a *ahem* coincidence. Bethesda isn’t that clever.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Real talk: what message is Bethesda trying to send with the Institute? The concept of "anyone you know could be working against you secretly" seems to be an allegory for Red Scare/McCarthyism. However, instead of deconstructing this viewpoint, they validate it; yes, there really is a giant underground bunker full of bodysnatching Communists! Why do they do this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bethesda is not Obsidian so they don't insert pointless politics to cater to terminally online troons that make it their entire personality
      They just make kino

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The railroad being unambiguously the good guys and moronic sjws begs to differ.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >unambiguously the good guys
          you mean the minutemen homie?
          you stupid homie?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Minutemen are the “you fricked up” faction. Railroad are the good guys and for some reason the over course corrected the BoS and turned them into cartoon nazis.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Railroad are not the good guys. They might be the most evil faction in the game simply because they take synths from the Institute and let them run around the surface causing chaos and paranoia when people find them. And DiMA, an actual synth, disagrees with Railroad and how they treat synths. DiMA is also sad if the Institute is destroyed because while it will no longer hunt synths it will also not create anymore of them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, which is why the plot of Fallout 4 is about a heavy-handed slavery metaphor (the Synths).

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It has nothing to do with slavery metaphors. It's Blade Runner. It's about Synths themselves and what they mean, not slavery.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, the conflict about Synths in 4 (and 3 in that one quest) is that they are viewed as subhuman by most factions who either want to exterminate them or use them as tools. The group dedicated to their liberation is called "The Railroad." It has everything to do with slavery metaphors.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's about if synths can justify their existence and are humanlike enough to have rights. No it's not an allegory for black people being slaves because you want to be angry at something and you can't stop thinking about politics.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It very obviously is. Why then have the reference to the Underground Railroads? Fallout 4's story is built on references to old American history - Hanwiener and the Minutemen, for instance, are two other cases aside from the Railroad who embody the values of their historical counterparts in the context of 4's setting. The game then builds from this their role in the plot as people who often display intelligence, free will and individuality but are viewed as subhuman/tools by the people who control them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They use American History and create an original story. If they wanted to say something about black people they just would. Again, there are no politics for you to be mad about so you have to insert them in.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would they make these very conspicious references - again, literally NAMED after these historical entities - if not to make some sort of commentary?
                > If they wanted to say something about black people they just would
                Because no fictional story has ever used a metaphor before.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon its no deeper than
                >what should we name the fraction that helps free synths in boston?
                >hey the underground railroad is similar, lets name them after that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That scenario requires recognition that the plight of Synths and slaves in American history is similar, which is what is being argued.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > emil, your writing sucks because you cannot think beyond surface level nothing you ever written has any intent or message
                From

                emil, your writing sucks because you cannot think beyond surface level nothing you ever written has any intent or message ended looking like a circus that only exist to entertain the player.

                as you see by the amount of headcannon in this thread 'eml writing' works on shallow consumers who also cannot think beyond surface level as they try to milk meaning into their own interpretations of the game to at least have something to talk about

                and they’re right.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >justify their existence and are human like enough to have rights
                >not about slavery or black people
                I know gen Z and A are uniquely dense, but you can't be serious. There's literally a faction called "The Railroad" that helps "free" synths.

                This fricking game could have had a character walk up to you named Michael Louis Queen, who tells you about his dream for synths and humans living together in harmony, all being treated equal and having the same rights, and you'd just go "hurr durr robots look like people"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Really grasping at straws here

                Why would they make these very conspicious references - again, literally NAMED after these historical entities - if not to make some sort of commentary?
                > If they wanted to say something about black people they just would
                Because no fictional story has ever used a metaphor before.

                Bethesda doesn't do commentaries. They just use history and that's it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So then what's the substance?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The synths didn't ask to be created, but they exist anyway. The question that the game asks you is if synths should exist, what are they useful for and if they even deserve to be considered human. You witness many things relating to synths, a synth detective helps you and he's so humanlike that humans don't even mind having him around, Shaun creates a synth child for you to ease your sadness, Curie asks for a synth body to be more human, DiMA, a synth, is almost like a synth version of The Institute and replaces people as well.

                That's what the game explores.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there is no question about anything, GPT you are hallucinating

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >should these people who are demonstrated to have personalities and free will be allowed to exist
                pretty fricked up thing to ask

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's realistic. People won't perceive synths as humans just because they are good at imitating them. They will ask about things like soul, free will, conscience and compare them to computers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls
                realism was never their goal.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure. Fallout has many unrealistic things in it, but the way Synths are perceived and the narrative around them is realistic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the game undermines its own exploration of what 'humanity' is as it establishes nobody cares about anything other than the fact the synths look human
                >Curie asks for a synth body to be more human
                curie WAS already human. giving her a human body is basically saying "no, your sentience and personality does not make you human. the mere fact you look human is the only metric".
                the game's moral dilemma is LITERALLY skin deep

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Robots don't feel like humans do. When Curie gets her body she complains about having to sleep and eat and breathe, but that makes her like us.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >UH THE ROBOTS CAN'T POOP AND PEE LIKE A HUMAN CAN SO HOW CAN THEY BE HUMAN?
                its insane you just immediately proved my point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Things like that influence us on a deeper level and make us human. If a robot can't feel pain and hunger it's harder to consider them like us.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >humanity is defined by being exactly like a human
                skin-deep. there are thousands of sentient robots all across the wasteland who have their own personalities and in some cases full free will and you're basically saying they're not worth considering because they aren't completely visually human. you keep proving my point that the humanity debate in fo4 has no actual weight to it because you yourself are unable to actually consider something that isn't like a typical human could actually be considered sentient like one

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not even my perspective. I'm just saying that's how people perceive synths. And robots across the wasteland are not considered human at all. They are simply tolerated.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the debate wasn't about making the in-game characters accept synth, the debate was claiming fo4's concepts were deep because it tackles 'what is a human' but it does it in an insanely surface level way. like you're trying to take this in a personal way and you're not looking it from an objective story perspective and thats why people think you're moronic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People think he's moronic because he is actually moronic. He is a braindead normalgay who's literally incapable of even understanding the difference between writing intent and the actual objective reality of the fiction and narrative presented.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, what is human? How do you know that a synth is not just a really advanced computer good at imitating a human?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no meaningful difference.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                according to fo4 its looking and acting like an ordinary human being because thats the only metric the railroad considers when saving synths

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They debate on saving gen 1 and 2 synths but they are not intelligent enough. They compare to them to terminals and turrets in terms of being human. So obviously it matters that a synth displays some kind of a humanity and soul.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what about all the robots that are intelligent they do nothing about? don't fricking forget curie was mentioned earlier, is perfectly sentient, yet before the player comes along all she does is get ordered around by vault dwellers. why aren't they going around liberating them?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Robots don't ask to be liberated. They are fine doing what they are programmed to do. And so are many synths, but you also have synths like DiMA and Nick that escaped the Institute to be free.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"why doesn't the institute rescue regular robots"
                >"robots and synths do not ask to be rescued"
                you might actually be the dumbest fricking person on this entire site. this does not actually address the question as what distinguishes regular robots from synths and why the railroad differentiates them, you're just re-iterating that they're machines stuck in labor.
                you respond to almost every post with something thats barely even related to it and act like its a deep meaningful reply when its just talking about random unrelated shit. I'm basically convinced you're just throwing replies into a chatgpt bot. why are you like this? what the frick is your endgame, just to give everyone talking about fo4 so much fatigue they leave it alone forever?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're just calling people dumb when they don't agree with everything you say. Might as well not respond at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                immediately launches into another response that does not even address anything in the post
                >UH U MAD CUZ NO ONE AGREE WHIT U
                the frick are you talking about? I'm annoyed that you're not even talking about things coherently. you responded to me asking why they don't save robots by saying they don't do it because the robots don't ask to be saved, then immediately paired that with saying synths also don't ask to be saved either. you've both completely gone over the fact robots are just as sentient as synths yet get ignored then undermined your only possible point that the robots aren't actively asking for salvation by bringing up that the fricking synths railroad saves don't ask for it either

                >name synths that ask to be rescued
                >actually they don't ask to be rescued
                ??????????

                and I didn't fricking ASK for synths begging to be rescued either. you just made that up entirely. I'm aware theres synths that outright go to the railroad for help but this ignores all the ones the railroad goes out to help on their own while the railroad doesn't help any other sentient creatures that are enslaved or in trouble.
                you're all fricking idiots. you can't actually respond to anything anyone says about this game at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, what is so hard to understand? Why do you resort to insults?

                Robots do not ask to be saved. And yes, there are many synths who also don't ask for it and are happy following their programming. But there are synths who show that they want to be liberated and considered human.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Robots do not ask to be saved.
                cerberus in fo3 fricking hates working for the ghouls and wants to be freed you FRICKING moron. this is why I resort to insults is because you have a critical misunderstanding of literally every aspect of this franchise and the core idea of what 'humanity' actually is. like you're completely dumb and unaware of anything in this franchise and the thousands of cases that makes the synth debate seem totally moronic in context

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                now name 5 more that aren't jackie chan
                we see dozens that dont give a shit so 5 should be an easy number

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sawbones from fo3
                curie, who was already mentioned multiple times whose sentience is basically ignored until she's pysically given a human form
                kleo, who full on owns her own business in a community and can even be fricking lobotomized to lose her sentience
                ada from automatron
                pam, who is fricking IN the railroad
                and don't forget the entirety of the robo-brains who are a class of robots that are humans trapped in robot bodies that literally nobody in the franchise ever talks about
                you dumb fricking c**t

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i said post 5, you posted 6 AND the 6th one was actually a human
                therefore you are wrong and simply must be slaughtered, you're just wrong

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sawbone is the same deal as Cerberus, just needs repair to function normally.
                Curie is just programmed to do science and collect data. And her robot form is too liming for her so she asks for a synth body.
                Kleo needs a reset and becomes a normal assaultron.
                Ada lost her Caravan so she just tags along with you.
                Pam is just a normal assaultron.
                Robobrains are human brains.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cerberus has system failures that make him self-aware of his programming. All he needs is repair.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >name synths that ask to be rescued
                >actually they don't ask to be rescued
                ??????????

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If a robot can't feel pain and hunger it's harder to consider them like us.
                Maybe for a monkey brain normalhomosexual like you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bethesda
                >substance

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This fricking game could have had a character walk up to you named Michael Louis Queen, who tells you about his dream for synths and humans living together in harmony, all being treated equal and having the same rights
                who just coincidentally had his mind wiped and reprogrammed by the railroad

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That could have been an interesting twist for a synth advocate tbh. I'm not sure how you'd make that reveal land without it being too heavy handed though. I guess it would be similar to how you learn about Danse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol you idiot, the Railroad is a reference to the "Underground Railroad" that freed slaves

                You should have paid attention in school rather than just playing video games

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Railroad is a reference to the "Underground Railroad" that freed slaves
                Did abolitionists give amnesia meds to slaves after freeing them?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What does that have to do with anything you absolute moron?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >their liberation
              >via erasing their real memories and giving them fake memories
              the railroad are fricked up moronic freaks

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Things can have layers, anon.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Things don't have layers here. Just politics that I think are based and make them my entire personality or politics that I get mad at while life slips through my fingers.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It has nothing to do with slavery metaphors
            the organization freeing synths is literally the underground railroad

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      israel
      todd's antisemitic, it can be seen in all his games
      remember that saarfield dialogue where you accuse a merchant of being israeli
      why do you think we see so much hatred against todd nowadays

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The “tiny hat” thing was an accident. It was a “lol so random!” joke that accidentally dog whistled. Its just liberal morons have zero self awareness but it was not antisemetic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ignores the other three statements
          the institute has literal golems who turn against their master

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's supposed to be like McCarthyism
      >except they made it so the communists were real!
      McCarthy was right about the communist infiltrators, anonymous.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they had a brainstorm idea about the shaun reveal and everything else was written around that but they can't write

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      McCarthy was an american hero.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They also had tons of Chinese ghoul soldiers wandering DC in 3, still working away at subverting the nonexistent American government and in full uniform after hundreds of years.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone obviously wrote the railroad with the idea that boston had legitimate civilized areas, it makes absolutely no sense with the entire game outside diamond city and the area with the ghoul companion being an endless warzone where no one is safe for ten minutes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *same thing with the """criminal""" characters, like the guy in the synth detectives introduction, there is no where in the whole game where there is an underworld to be a criminal in because there is one tiny area where people seem to do subsistence farming and nothing else

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Triggermen operate out of the vault and Goodneighbor. They are hired as mercenaries, sell chems and work with Raiders. They also run the robot racetrack.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the settlement building is cool but it feels like they gutted a lot of actually civilized areas because the player just has to be able to build their own towns in them. So they just give you 2 towns (I guess there's technically four if you want to count the shitty lemonade stand and post-apocalpytic strip mall) and nothing but enemies in between. I hate to do the FNV comparison but that game has
      >Goodsprings
      >Primm
      >Novac
      >Freeside
      >New Vegas
      >North Vegas
      >Jamestown
      and a bunch of already developed settlements in between. Sure you can't make your own homosexual town but I feel it's better that way.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Synths are less dangerous and more deserving of human rights than black people.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Groomed Obsiditroons cannot stop inserting politics into everything
    many such cases

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    emil, your writing sucks because you cannot think beyond surface level nothing you ever written has any intent or message ended looking like a circus that only exist to entertain the player.

    as you see by the amount of headcannon in this thread 'eml writing' works on shallow consumers who also cannot think beyond surface level as they try to milk meaning into their own interpretations of the game to at least have something to talk about

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The danger of technology is a major theme to Fallout, the Institute argues technology is the solution to the radioactive postwar wasteland. Like any other faction the Institute does bad things but in their case, do so with the aid of technology and use technology as the justification. The player is intended to ask: “They’re cool and all, but aren’t they LITERALLY Hitler(a prewar corporation) something something slippery slippery slope?” compare them to the heroic wasteland people that are just bootstrapping every single day trying their best, and wonder: “Hmmm. This is truly a dilemma. Maybe the middle ground is best, the BOS. They have technology AND want to unite the bootstrap people.” So the player nukes the institute, then asks: “Wow I just heckin dropped a nuke, maybe I’M the bad guy????” See the refugee scientists(Nazi scientists) and be like : “Here’s a job you guys. I guess I’m the good guy after all.” Then watch the credits roll with the ‘War Never Changes.’ voiceover and think “WOW. That smile. That damned smile. God Bless Todd.”

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Synths are too OP to live
    >b-but they are LITERALLY, LIKE, PEOPLE
    Not my problem

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This new fallout meme is bad and you guys should feel bad

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There are people living in a post apocalyptic wasteland who believe toasters have rights
    It's one thing to have the moronic debate in a 1st world society but bro when I have to scavenge for every meal and wonder if I will live to see the sun rise, I am not going to hesitate to sell a synth that resembles my son for caps

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron alert. you could just make it grow food for you instead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and risk getting jumped by
        .>a bunch of goons trying to 'free' my synth
        >a bunch of meatheads trying to kill my technological abomination
        >a bunch of nerds trying to steal my synth back because they can't release a software patch
        yeah no thx

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The whole situation is just fricking stupid because why would you make androids that look like and think they're human instead of just making the perfectly functionally designed and ethically mundane service robots that have existed for over 200 years? There's no blade runner dilemma with a fricking Mister Handy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Institute does what it can because it can. They're a bunch of nerds with no oversight except other eccentric nerds who are competing with other eccentric nerds for resource allotment. The fact that they're hopelessly disconnected from social and moral moores is honestly kinda realistic. Arguably the game sugarcoats them too much.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More of an issue that they are just the Big MT but with less bite. Those fricks were making man-made horrors while the institute is making androids and gaslighting themselves into thinking they don't have free will.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And at least Big MT had a coherent purpose. "Research how to win the cold war".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >institute
            >creates robots that can hate their job for no reason

            >big mt
            >creates a robot that hates it job out of spite for mr house
            It's clear who's better.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              TOTAL MUG DEATH

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I don't disagree with you on that. OWB doesn't shy away from the fact that the research was deranged, either. Which feels like a track FO4 wants to follow but when you actually meet the Institute in person most of that just never materializes, which makes them weird and flat. Shit, you don't even chase down escaped synths very often, IIRC the radiant quests are to recover Gen 1/2 synths that have been taken captive at raider camps for some reason? The player absolutely should just be dragging randos out of their homes and teleporting away.

            You've obviously never worked in research, everyone is completely obsessed with (and prone to lying about) the practical application of their field of interest, nobody does shit just because

            The nerds in the Institute are convinced of the practical applications of their research. They talk about repopulating the biosphere with synth animals and shit, optimizing crop yields, having a limitless workforce, etc. But they're still completely disconnected from, yknow, normal people and don't see them as anything other than lab rats. Ultimately they just want to pursue their research. Practical applications are good excuses.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You take back a synth that became a leader of raiders and a bunch of synths hiding at Bunker Hill. You can also let them go and still join the Institute, even though Father is very disappointed in you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but I'm pretty sure those are the only two, and it still just doesn't feel like it's got the grit it should. There's just not enough of it. You absolutely should have a mission where you bust into some poor dirtfarmer house and just teleport out with the husband without explanation. You should raze a settlement because you received a tip they may have something the Institute wants. You should be working on synth insertions.

                Basically the player should get their hands dirty more often in the Institute timeline. They pay lip service to it but the really heinous shit that makes people fear the Institute feels like it all happens offscreen or 5min before you wake up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can actually find the settlement that Institute destroyed, it's not an entirely offscreen thing. And you can find a replaced farmer and have a quest with him.

                Institute is not cartoonishly evil, that's the thing. The scientists inside try to fight against the management and do good. They don't replace everyone all the time and destroy everything. When you get there some of the worst things like Kellogg and FEV research are already taken care of.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can actually find the settlement that Institute destroyed, it's not an entirely offscreen thing
                Hence
                >5min before you showed up
                The Institute is responsible for, in one way or another, almost everything actually wrong in Boston barring the Gunners. A lot of which actually happened under Father's tenure. I don't think they should be full skynet or anything, but it would be nice if you had to actually do some nasty shit like we know they actually do instead of them abruptly cleaning themselves up so the player doesn't have to be too mean.

                >Other factions don't see the importance of the Institute.
                Yeah and I really don't see how that makes sense from any point of view
                BoS literally fetishizes stuff like this, Railroad is entirely about sucking Synth wiener and they're destroying the sole location with the tech to repair and improve them, minutemen is literally just what the player wants

                The BoS (especially Lyons' boys) exist to atomize glowBlack folk, which is what the Institute are. They keep all the data and erase the physical examples to keep them from getting into the wrong hands (because the BoS doesn't even want synth tech). If it were a western chapter I'd agree with you, but Maxson going scorched earth is about in line with how the chapter acted in 3.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Institute would have been far more interesting if they really thought they were benevolent, its just that they completely lacked nuance.

                Yes we replaced your dying wife with a machine replicant. Now she's immune to radiation and most forms of disease and you can finally have that kid you always wanted! What? I guess we could have 'saved her' but this is better! Wait, why are you mad?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They feel justified in what they do but they also fighting themselves on the inside to be better. That's nuance. It slowly culminates into the player taking over and being the change that they needed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The execution is quite poor. It mostly results in there being a small handful of persecuted good scientists while everyone else is cartoon villains

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No it's quite varied actually. There are scientists who help synths, scientists who think they are completely useless, others who praise them but do not consider them sentient. Scientist who destroyed a FEV research and found a way to cure supermutants.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There are scientists who help synths, scientist who destroyed a FEV research and found a way to cure supermutants.
                Persecuted good guys

                >scientists who think they are completely useless, others who praise them but do not consider them sentient.
                Cartoon villains

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. Scientists who help synths escape are not necessarily the good guys. Since many of them end up causing paranoia in commonwealth or facing existential crisis.

                Scientist who think synths are useless are not necessarily the bad guys. They just don't want synths to be made. And neither the people who praise them are bad guys, they just see the good use in them but nothing beyond that.

                FEV research was objectively evil but it did lead to supermutant cure.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You've obviously never worked in research, everyone is completely obsessed with (and prone to lying about) the practical application of their field of interest, nobody does shit just because

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > The whole situation is just fricking stupid
        Yeah but bethesda went there so now we have to argue about it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Synths are mankind redefined. It's a next step for humanity to be able to produce artificial humans. The scientists inside the Institute have completely different views on them. There is a scientist who helps them escape. Another one protests to cease their production because they are useless.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Synths are mankind redefined.
          I don't WANT mankind redefined. I want robots to feed me grapes and jerk me off, WHY would you make robots that RESENT being told what to do?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because at some point you make robots so advanced that they will start resembling humans. And you can either keep them around or decide to destroy them.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been replaying FNV and honestly it's still as good as I remember, a shame trannies and gayout3 fans astroturfed it into somehow being a troony game.
    Todd and emil fricking wish they could have writen something as good

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Institute makes me miss the Enclave as the big baddie faction of the East Coast, at least their motives are tentatively related to FO2's Enclave.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fallout 4 sars are actual cultists, holy shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What even compels someone to make tons of images and copy the same responses in threads for going on years now?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was lied to
    Fallout 4 is kino

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what i expected: a guy blowing his own brains out
      >what i got: a guy blowing a canadians brains out
      its so up war crime bros

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its remarkable how much emil’s little moronation there accidentally gave Fallout’s worst protagonist a lot more character.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Worst protag would be the courier

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm confused, isn't the Sole Survivor a War Veteran, a Family Man, and a Synth?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The institute lets a synth run wild and nuke them to oblivion
                no
                >Believing the synth trash because some robo hobo said some words
                no
                >Fake memories from before the bomb that the ghoul somehow recognises you and you him because because because the intro doesn't make sense if protag is a synth
                no

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Father lets Nate do whatever he wants. If he believes that the Institute should perish he will let you do it.
                DiMA is right about people accepting a reality that is presented to them simply because it is easier to believe it than face existential crisis.
                Why would they make fake intro memories? Complicated for no reason.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Father lets Nate do whatever he wants. If he believes that the Institute should perish he will let you do it
                Because the game has very shitty writing and never puts its foot down and tells the player to pick a path until the very end so there is constant waffling
                >DiMA is right about people accepting a reality that is presented to them simply because it is easier to believe it than face existential crisis
                He is a robot made of trash that gaslights and kills people.
                >Why would they make fake intro memories? Complicated for no reason
                Again shitty writing, how would Nate have memories of fighting in the war or of family members that have been dead for over a century? In reality they wanted to make a subplot about never knowing who is and isn’t a synth like Blade Runner but put barely any thought into it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shaun letting Nate decide what to do is not bad writing. Even though Nate is a synth he is still his Father.

                DiMA never gaslighted anyone. Kasumi already thought she was a synth. He only offered to take care of her.

                Memories and implanted knowledge are different things. Nate cant actually recall those memories and when you get to memory den early you can only play the intro vault memory.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Shaun letting Nate decide what to do is not bad writing. Even though Nate is a synth he is still his Father
                He’s not a synth and Shaun has little to no actual affection for his parents, he calls his mother’s murder “unfortunate collateral” for frick sake.
                >DiMA never gaslighted anyone. Kasumi already thought she was a synth. He only offered to take care of her
                Kasumi isn’t a synth though, which is exactly why it’s fricked up
                >Memories and implanted knowledge are different things. Nate cant actually recall those memories and when you get to memory den early you can only play the intro vault memory
                Except he can given that he did in the intro, we literally see him marching and looking at a locket with Nora’s picture.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Shaun had no affection for his parents he would never let Nate out of the vault. There was zero reason to do it otherwise.

                It’s not fricked up to take care of people. She could have easily been a synth. It’s not something that the player can know unless you kill her.

                The intro is not a memory. It’s just an intro to the game. If it played in memory den then it would be clear that Nate is not a synth.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If Shaun had no affection for his parents he would never let Nate out of the vault. There was zero reason to do it otherwise
                He did it because a game needed to happen, again bad writing.
                >It’s not fricked up to take care of people. She could have easily been a synth. It’s not something that the player can know unless you kill her
                Lying to a person about who they are and encouraging them to stay with you instead of returning to their family who love them is fricked up.
                >The intro is not a memory
                It literally is, it is Nate rehearsing his speech for the veterans hall and shows him marching in Alaska.
                >it played in memory den then it would be clear that Nate is not a synth
                None of Nate’s memories are shown in the memory den, the only time you can actually experience any memory is when you go into the chunk of Kellogg’s brain.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No he did it because he has affection for Nate, obviously.
                Its not lying. She thought she was a synth. So he took care of her.
                The intro is something that happened to original Nate but not a memory that you experience in the game.
                If you get to the memory den early you can play the vault intro memory.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No he did it because he has affection for Nate, obviously.
                Except he literally just unleashed him into the wasteland full of horrific shit with nothing. That’s not caring, it’s just a lazy plot device to allow for the game to happen
                >Its not lying. She thought she was a synth. So he took care of her
                But she’s not a synth, and instead of actually questioning her about this he just decided to feed her delusion
                >The intro is something that happened to original Nate
                No it’s a memory that Nate has because he’s not a synth.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He unleashed him to find out if Nate would be able to save him from the Institute before he dies. If he died then it's just a dead synth and a failed experiment. If not it would mean that Nate would be able to find him if he didn't die. And then he gets to see what he would do to the Institute.

                What makes you think he did not question her? You can question her yourself and she believes to be a synth until you do what she wants.

                It's not, it's an intro showcasing that original Nate was in the war.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nate isn't a synth, you can load up a save as Nora and check his corpse, no synth chip. Check and mate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In that continuity Nora would be a synth.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He unleashed him to find out if Nate would be able to save him from the Institute before he dies
                Again why? What the frick is the point in that? Why the frick would this old man who has not thought of his parents once all of a sudden give a shit now, and you can say it’s about how dying is making him introspective but he shows little to no actual care for the death of his own fricking mother why would he give a shit to see if some facsimile of his father would do anything?
                >he died then it's just a dead synth and a failed experiment
                Oh so like I said he didn’t really care about him. Also to go back a bit if he’s just a synth why the frick would Shaun care about him? Even if he is a copy of his father that still doesn’t make sense, and why not make a copy of Nora as well and just edit out the part of her being killed?
                >What makes you think he did not question her? You can question her yourself and she believes to be a synth until you do what she wants.
                Which only goes to show that her belief that she is a synth is hollow.
                >It's not, it's an intro showcasing that original Nate was in the war.
                And how would they be able to get that specific memory? In your scenario it’s a flash back within a flash back.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In that continuity Nora would be a synth.

                Where is Nate’s body

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he’s not a synth
                Agreed but him turning out to be as the twist instead of Father being Shaun would have been infinitely better. Emil is fricking incompetent

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He is a synth, the game makes it clear. But people don't want to admit that they misjudged the story.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is flaw in your reasoning. The Institute would never allow a synth to be in charge. Look at that entry again, its not written by Father which means people other then Father would know Nate was a synth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of course they know. Do you think it's a coincidence that the scientist who hates synths is the one protesting when you become a director?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes because she's clearly a b***h with a superiority complex and Nate is a dirty wastelander

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It really wouldn’t, it would just sort of further invalidate everything given that not only is Shaun an old man but you are just part of a fricked up experiment to of said old man.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except in Nuka World Nate has a line where he remembers playing Baseball as a kid, a memory that is obviously pre-intro.
                DiMA is a gaslighting homosexual, Kasumi is right there as an example of him feeding into a person’s moronic synth paranoia

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Clearly implanted knowledge, not an actual memory. DiMA did no gaslighting, he simply takes in people who think they are synths. They are free to leave anytime.

                >He unleashed him to find out if Nate would be able to save him from the Institute before he dies
                Again why? What the frick is the point in that? Why the frick would this old man who has not thought of his parents once all of a sudden give a shit now, and you can say it’s about how dying is making him introspective but he shows little to no actual care for the death of his own fricking mother why would he give a shit to see if some facsimile of his father would do anything?
                >he died then it's just a dead synth and a failed experiment
                Oh so like I said he didn’t really care about him. Also to go back a bit if he’s just a synth why the frick would Shaun care about him? Even if he is a copy of his father that still doesn’t make sense, and why not make a copy of Nora as well and just edit out the part of her being killed?
                >What makes you think he did not question her? You can question her yourself and she believes to be a synth until you do what she wants.
                Which only goes to show that her belief that she is a synth is hollow.
                >It's not, it's an intro showcasing that original Nate was in the war.
                And how would they be able to get that specific memory? In your scenario it’s a flash back within a flash back.

                That's just him coping when he says that about his mother. If he really felt that way he wouldn't bring Nate back.

                He did care, but he also wanted to know if Nate cared enough to find him. Shaun cares about synths, enough to make a child version of himself. He considers them family even if he's not sure about their sentience. Institute was already fed up with Shaun making the child version because it is useless to them. Makes sense that he would only make one parent instead of both to appease them for this experiment.

                Her belief is not hollow, that is why she leaves her family.

                Nate clearly says that he doesn't actually remember anything past the intro. The original was in the war and the one preparing to give the speech. Synth Nate has implanted knowledge of pre-war world to make his fake reality believable.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >clear-
                But your entire premise hinges on the INTRO being his first memory. It isn’t. It also begs the question of why does Nate turn into an amnesiac moron when talking to DiMA all of a sudden and can’t remember these pre-intro memories? the real reason for this inconsistency is because Bethesda can’t be assed to have writers communicate with each other, so I doubt the writers of Far Harbor and whichever writer wrote the line about baseball as a kid in Nuka World ever even knew what the other wrote

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Implanted knowledge is not memories. Nate simply accepted his reality until DiMA made him question it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except he stated that he REMEMBERS playing baseball as a kid. This isn’t the only pre-intro memory line Nate has either.
                Again, this entire premise hinges on the intro being his first memory. You’re using the memory den and DiMA as the foundation for this theory.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's just him coping when he says that about his mother. If he really felt that way he wouldn't bring Nate back
                That doesn’t make sense, if both parents are dead why only bring back one?
                >He did care, but he also wanted to know if Nate cared enough to find him
                Except he wouldn’t be Nate, it would be a synth, which he has made abundantly clear he doesn’t give a shit about and you even that if he dies it’s not a big deal
                >Her belief is not hollow, that is why she leaves her family
                She’s a stupid teenager, and the fact that it doesn’t take much to convince her shows that she doesn’t have much faith in what she said
                >Nate clearly says that he doesn't actually remember anything past the intro
                Aside from being a soldier and fighting in Alaska, because of the flash back.
                >Synth Nate has implanted knowledge of pre-war world to make his fake reality believable.
                Why would that include him thinking about his great great grandfather and looking at a picture of Nora when marching? That’s way too specific to just be general knowledge.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already explained why only bring back one parent in my post, you ignored it.
                He cares about synths, he considers them a family and made a child version of himself for Nate.
                Even stupid teenagers can be synths. You have to do the entire Far Harbor storyline to convince her.
                The intro flashback is just something that happened to the original. Synth Nate wasn't there. He has implanted knowledge of the war.

                Except he stated that he REMEMBERS playing baseball as a kid. This isn’t the only pre-intro memory line Nate has either.
                Again, this entire premise hinges on the intro being his first memory. You’re using the memory den and DiMA as the foundation for this theory.

                Clearly he thought he was playing baseball as a child but has no actual memory of it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I already explained why only bring back one parent in my post, you ignored it
                I directly answered and countered it, if you can’t actually argue a point then don’t make it
                >He cares about synths, he considers them a family and made a child version of himself for Nate
                That’s moronic, wasteful, and extremely fricked up, not to mention it completely fricks with the narrative since ultimately the main quest is just some old man trying to deal with his parental issues with robots.
                >Even stupid teenagers can be synths. You have to do the entire Far Harbor storyline to convince her
                Which again shows that her convictions aren’t strong, if she genuinely thought she was a synth then nothing would be able to convince her otherwise, she would not see her parents and her parents and she would just stay in Arcadia forever.
                >The intro flashback is just something that happened to the original
                And how would they get those memories from a corpse? Neurons die extremely fast and the only reason Kellogg’s memories were even slightly intact was because of his cybernetics?
                >He has implanted knowledge of the war
                It’s more than just the war it’s his personal experience of the war that’s not something that they could just replicate with random information.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't answer anything and people can see it
                I already said it would be wasteful to make two parents. You admit it is wasteful now. That is why he only makes one parent, because the Institute can only tolerate so much of his personal issues. Yes ultimately the story is about an old man facing death and using science to find peace.

                She simply makes the peace with the fact that it doesn't matter if she a synth or not. She loves her family either way and returns to them.
                The corpse was frozen.
                Personal experience can be fabricated as implanted knowledge.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You didn't answer anything and people can see it
                Except I did, I pointed out how it didn’t make sense and you just said how I ignored it
                >I already said it would be wasteful to make two parents
                But somehow making a child and programming him to act as a child is less wasteful and be different from the other synths is less wasteful, you keep contradicting yourself.
                >because the Institute can only tolerate so much of his personal issues
                But they’ll tolerate him wanting to make a synth their leader? Again more contradiction.
                >She simply makes the peace with the fact that it doesn't matter if she a synth or not. She loves her family either way and returns to them
                Except she’s not a synth and if she actually thought she was she wouldn’t care about her parents and stay away because she would be an imposter who is a replacement for their dead daughter. She wouldn’t come up with a cope to try and justify it.
                >Personal experience can be fabricated as implanted knowledge
                No it can’t, these are personal memories that they would have no idea how to accurately replicate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not less wasteful, that’s why he only makes one parent for his experiment and one child.
                They don’t tolerate it, but Nate proves himself.
                She is not a synth, but she can’t know that. She simply accepted that it does not matter.
                You can replicate pre-war knowledge.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s not less wasteful
                So your argument about making Nora as well being wasteful is null
                >They don’t tolerate it, but Nate proves himself
                In your headcanon he’s a synth, he can’t prove himself because to them he’s just a machine, an automaton made to follow orders, they would never allow him to take over.
                >She is not a synth, but she can’t know that. She simply accepted that it does not matter
                Which means that she thinks she isn’t because it would matter if she was for the reason I gave.
                >You can replicate pre-war knowledge
                We’re talking about personal memories, they can’t just back that up unless they had it prior to actually making the synth.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No? Nora is wasteful. The child is wasteful and made Institute upset. Nate is wasteful. He only needs Nate and the child for the experiment. Second parent is useless.
                Many scientists at the Institute believe that synths are sentient. The one who does not happens to protest you becoming a director.
                Kasumi stop caring about that. She just wants to be with her family.
                Personal knowledge can be fabricated.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No? Nora is wasteful. The child is wasteful and made Institute upset. Nate is wasteful
                So they’re all wasteful, again making your point null because if they’re all a waste then why not just go all in, again your contradicting yourself.
                >Many scientists at the Institute believe that synths are sentient
                Yet they still treat them like slaves that exist only to follow orders and do tasks.
                >stop caring about that. She just wants to be with her family
                But if she thought she was a synth it wouldn’t be her family, and she would know and acknowledge than and not just stop.
                >Personal knowledge can be fabricated
                No it can’t.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because there is only so much the Institute will tolerate. So it is best to appease them.
                There is a scientist who helps them escape.
                It would still be her family because she cares about them. That is all that matters.
                Yes it can.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because there is only so much the Institute will tolerate. So it is best to appease them
                So they won’t tolerate a whole synth family but they will tolerate a synth being their leader. The level of cognitive dissonance is absurd.
                >It would still be her family because she cares about them. That is all that matters
                Except if she was a synth and thought she was a synth it wouldn’t be
                >Yes it can
                I figured you would say this and not attempt to elaborate or explain why.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ignore the Egyptian schizo, he’s trying to ape fabio.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you know understand that an RPG shouldn't have a defined protagonist and that the qualities you list are actually negative

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Every fallout game has a defined backstory protagonist except New Vegas

              Is mass effect not an rpg?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, all endings are the same and all your decisions are irrelevant
                moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Talking about the first game
                moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                backstory =/= character
                also courier does have a backstory, see lonesome road

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >courier has a backstory of delivering packages

                Yeah we already knew that thanks Chris

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yep. backstory influences the character so the less the better for an rpg where you're meant to make your own
                as opposed to the bethesda metho

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except other rpgs do it too (even within the same franchise) but no one gets mad there

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the issue is that fallout 4 drops all of this information:
                >you are a veteran of the US army which committed numerous atrocities
                >despite this, you still to choose to align yourself with the US military
                >you are a comfortable upper class 'family man'
                your character is lawful evil by design but the game doesn't reflect this creating an incongruity

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don’t you have a street to shit in?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Congrats on missing the point of the COURIER, moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nate is not a fricking synth stop with that bullshit

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes he is

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nta but how does he die from irradiation then?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't die from never eating or drinking, though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He does on the canocial difficulty, Survival.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He does on the canocial difficulty, Survival.
                That's what I'm talking about. He can't starve even on survival, the worst thing that can happen is your health gets low.

                If I wanted to program a robot to think it's human, that's how I'd do it, gaslight it into believing it requires food, drink, sleep.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Synths are not immune to radiation. Nick says he is but that only applies because he has a robotic body. Organic gen3 synths are like humans.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Courier's background is completely up to you. All you know about him is that he took a job to deliver the chip. Maybe he was passing through New Vegas and ran into some bad luck and lost everything and took a quick job to earn a few caps to recoup the losses. Maybe he's a 17 year old kid and he wanted to work for Mr. House and saw this as an opportunity to get involved with the Lucky 38. Maybe you're a wastelander nobody that just so happened to get entangled in the high stakes political drama of NV. Maybe you're an ex merc, etc. etc.

            You gotta use your white man's imagination, anon... you are white, right?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              its not completely blank, with Lonesome Road elaborating and the Courier was an exceptionally good Courier. If you believe what Ulysses says

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Playing on Survival
    >Exploring for an hour and a half
    >Step on a landmine
    >mfw

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    did bethesda patch up their latest update that introduced bugs in fo4 or is it still fricked?

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't like how every single faction is dumb, man
    Why did they even make the synth crap the main deal in the first place?
    At least make them somewhat different from regular humans so the discussion has some merit, they are literally just tube babies in every aspect in the game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Better than delivering a chip and fighting over some dam with moronic factions like roman larpers with football gear

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kings make more sense than the Institute lmao, cope harder.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the Courier more than the Sole Survivor simply because I have more control over what motivates the Courier, the special and skill checks mean something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Courier only has one motivation which is finding the chip. Finding the chip or finding your son is basically on the same level.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Revenge for getting shot
        >Just wanting to finish the job
        >Getting Benny's side of the story, revenge motivated or not
        >horny b***h who got the hots for Benny
        That's 4 more motivation I can think off the top of my head over than finding your son because he's my son! Where's Shaun?! Did those leaf frick touch him?!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Revenge for getting shot
          Like getting revenge on Kellogg for stealing your son and killing your wife?
          >Just wanting to finish the job
          Like taking over the Institute because it is the work of your son or destroying it because of what they did to you?
          >Getting Benny's side of the story, revenge motivated or not
          Like finding out what is the deal with the Institute?
          >horny b***h who got the hots for Benny
          Then you can be a horny b***h that has hots for Kellogg too. If that's your thing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your character can't have any of these motivation the moment the game becomes playable, unlike the ones I listed.
            This is all information you discover later. Your base motivation in Fallout 4 will and can only be "WHERE'S MY SON?! WHERE DID YOU TAKE SHAUN?! HE'S MY SON!!"

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The only difference is that you find out about the Institute a bit later, because they don't send a robot to railroad you through the story.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The robot is just something that points the way to Benny. You don't need to know where Benny is to know why you want to find him after the intro.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't get why there wasn't a real actually fricking rule over the institute and use their men and tech option without explicitly joining those specific morons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they made a game where decisions mean something and you have to commit to them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure but why isn't that an option when it's clearly something people in and out of the universe would want, is not convoluted at all and wouldn't require you to do crap you wouldn't do in the other options anyways

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because you have to join the Institute to become their director and leader. They will not respect you otherwise.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Institute is literally all limp wristed scientists, half of which absolutely hate the institute's leadership themselves. What's stopping you from recruiting them, forcefully or not
            Hell, execute everyone and still keep the tech if you're still worried about them. By brotherhood standards for example, they are a pre-war tech group continuing their past work

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because there is an order to things in the Institute. Executing smart scientists in post-apocalypse is stupid. Even after you become the director you still have to prove yourself and handle a protest. Brotherhood doesn't want synth technology so they destroy it. They already have the teleporters from Nate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Executing smart scientists in post-apocalypse is stupid.
                Yeah exactly, why is it the default and the only option unless you decide you're a braindead moron who loves the institute
                >Brotherhood doesn't want synth technology so they destroy it. They already have the teleporters from Nate.
                But they have lots of other tech too

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Other factions don't see the importance of the Institute. Brotherhood only takes Madison Li back for her knowledge, the rest can burn. Railroad doesn't care about technology, they only care about freeing synths from the Institute. Minutemen just go along with whoever wins.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Other factions don't see the importance of the Institute.
                Yeah and I really don't see how that makes sense from any point of view
                BoS literally fetishizes stuff like this, Railroad is entirely about sucking Synth wiener and they're destroying the sole location with the tech to repair and improve them, minutemen is literally just what the player wants

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BoS already has the teleporter tech, they hate synths. What else will they get? Laser weapons? They have that. Cybernetics? It was discontinued. Railroad hates the Institute scientists and is not smart enough to operate the tech. And Minutemen are fine with Institute ending where you become the director.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BoS are literally technology hoarders. They SHOULD be interested in all technology period.
                Bethesda doesn't understand that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would they preserve technology that they hate and is dangerous to commonwealth? They work so hard to destroy it only so it could fall into wrong hands? They should take in Institute scientists so they can betray them and start building synths again? No.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would they preserve technology that they hate and is dangerous to commonwealth?
                Because that's a retcon made by Bethesda. This is not who the BoS are, but Bethesda doesn't understand that. They want to make them weird technophobes for some reason. They don't hate technology, they hate other people having technology.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They don't hate technology, they hate other people having technology.
                They exist to keep the second apocalypse from happening. They do that by trying to keep a technological lead on everyone else (which is why they used to confiscate stuff like energy weapons). If they find something they think is too dangerous to even leverage for themselves it doesn't seem out of character for them to destroy physical examples and keep the data. They don't leverage/produce FEV either.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This but with laser weapons and power armor, why do they keep them? Don't they see how dangerous they are to the commonwealth with raiders wielding them?
                You fricking Black person, their entire motto is making sure they have it and nobody else

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Best way make to sure that nobody has something dangerous is to destroy it. Doesn't mean that you have to go full moron and throw out your equipment.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Best way make to sure that nobody has something dangerous is to destroy it
                Anon you have the reading comprehension of a 3 y/o, that was not the point
                They hoard tech of all kinds under the guise of the safety of others, they do so in literally every single fallout title INCLUDING 4, it just doesn't apply to the main story for no reason

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hoarding Synth tech would be stupid even for Brotherhood

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Having books in a library would be stupid even for our public library
                ?????
                What's next, Fallout 1 remake where the overseer asks you to change the water chip for a MTN Dew dispenser instead?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hoarding tech is in character for the bos. anything else might as well be failrp

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So is destroying threats to commonwealth like supermutants and synths.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, that's a bethesda innovation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bethesda is Fallout

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We're done here. Thanks for playing!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bethesda is Shartout
                FTFY

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BoS exists to hoard pre-war weapons to keep humanity from killing itself, again, they do not give a shit about new tech, self sufficiency nor anything of the like.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would they preserve technology that they hate and is dangerous
                This is literally the entire, singular reason the BoS was founded.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but Synths are like Super Mutants, an existential threat to humanity

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Super Mutants are a temporary threat to humanity, Fallout 4 shows us they are so far gone they've lost all sense of self preservation and they can't reproduce so everytime one does they get closer to exinction. GIve it a decade and they'll be none left.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                synths neither make more synths or demonstrate ill-will towards humanity

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >synths neither make more synths
                Tgey aren't replicants. Its never said they can't reproduce.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's also never shown that they can

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We'll have to thoroughly test this Hypothesis. Someone go get Curie

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The faction that gets its own people killed for pre-war toaster blueprints doesn't care about a pre-war treasure trove

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Always nice to see FO4 fans. I enjoyed everything in the mainline series thus far

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      let's not pretend nuka world was good.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why pretend? It's the least pretentious Fallout content ever made. Literally just a fun theme park. I get not loving it because it's mostly about shooting things but I can't deny that I had a good time.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          quote from Tim Cain seems salient here
          >My idea is to explore more of the world and more of the ethics of a post-nuclear world, not to make a better plasma gun.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bethesda can simply do both

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no they can't, as has been proven by this thread

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks to the television show we'll never get a character like Oswald again. Why? Because ghouls now require a daily dose of some drug otherwise they go feral, a pre-war ghoul in isolation would have no access to that drug.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oswald is clearly special. He has the same abilities as the glowing feral ghouls but he's not feral.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah because there's no such thing as glowing ghouls that aren't feral

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can they resurrect dead ghouls like Oswald?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              and Bright

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but New Vegas is not canon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro Todd Howard said it was canon like 3 times and the new show straight up shows New Vegas itself before fading into the New Vegas title card...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro Todd Howard said it was canon like 3 times and the new show straight up shows New Vegas itself before fading into the New Vegas title card...

                not to mention narrative hooks in 4 from new vegas i.e. house studying at the institute

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a different continuity where New Vegas is kino written by Bethesda and not Obsidian trash. Which the show will follow up on.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go frick yourself. New Vegas is art which will be discussed and appreciated for years to come. Bethesda are thieves who stole every asset of their franchise and blundered with it to sell it to the masses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go back

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we'll never get a character like Oswald
            they don't care about internal consistency because funny 200 year old child in fridge so

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              mindbroken

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Because ghouls now require a daily dose of some drug otherwise they go feral
            Like the fallout 4 kid on a fridge?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >making the BOS flawed and having them face adversity and question there ideology is bad because…. IT JUST IS
      Why is it that you morons always go on these psuedo intellectual rants and make all of these moronic memes but can’t comprehend the most simple shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Classic BoS
        >Nothing like BoS in 1 or 2
        I think this was done ironically

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >isolationist
          >focused on collecting tech to “safe guard it”
          >live in bunkers
          They’re pretty much the same, the Brotherhood as a faction can only exist in a post apocalyptic world where shit like power armor and energy weapons can make a difference. But when people actually rebuild and grow they get btfo.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            East Coast BoS isn't like that, which means they're not like the classic BoS. Capital Wasteland Chapter is expansionist, helping wastelanders, even recruiting them, and then have the gall to retcon it in 76 that was actually their mission all along. The codex as I see it is up to interpretation so that each chapter can be familiar, but sort of wear a different hat. So you can get these conflicts like Lyon's chapter vs Outcasts, or Hardin trying to oust McNamara.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Morrowind
    The main character, canonically a male Dark Elf, is the destined reincarnation of a legendary hero who sets out to save his race from destruction who then dismantles the thrones of false gods who have led the people to this point.
    >Oblivion
    You, canonically a male Imperial, are chosen by the emperor of Mankind’s empire himself to embark on a mission to secure his holy seed. Then, through your efforts, you thwart the legions of hells as the sole son of the emperor mantles God himself to save the world.
    >Skyrim
    Canonically a male Nord, you are bestowed by God himself great power, being a fragment of such holy divinity. You then go forth and end the bloody civil war fought between your fellow man, your kindred, as you then go forth to destroy a dark and wicked dragon which seeks to utterly dominate and annihilate Mankind.
    >Fallout 3
    Your beloved father left the vault. There, you, yourself his son, escape from the fever dream and embark on a personal quest to find him. Through your efforts, you learn your father’s demise and his work, and eventually, you choose to inherit his ideals and purpose before eventually making the ultimate sacrifice for the betterment of Mankind.
    >Fallout 4
    A foil to Fallout 3, you, a veteran of the military, find yourself obtaining shelter in a vault only to witness the death of your wife and the kidnapping of your son. The moment you escape your mission is clear - find him. Along your path you will meet many remnants of mankind, and together, you will slowly rebuild civilization from the ashes.

    Meanwhile, in New Vegas -
    >Hur dur morality is subjective! Nothing really matters! Nothing ever changes! Except, remember your karma! That’s just an arbitrary ass system though as there’s no such thing as objective morality!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      love how vague and chat-gpt tier these descriptions are because there's so little of value to go on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol, those are perfectly detailed summaries of all those games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The best part about New Vegas is how they basically removed karma
      Karma is fricking stupid

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kills and substitutes people in the surface with androids
    >NOOOOOOOO WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE US!!!!

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How would you rewrite the Institute and the synths?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about just not making it the main story at all, fricking 3 out of 4 mainline games have the gimmick of "hurr durr replace the main populace with OUR people"
      Muh super mutants, muh non irradiated humans and muh non irradiated humans 2: electric boogaloo
      We didn't need a muh 3d printed humans plot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah there should be another chip to deliver and another source of water to fight over, amazing story

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wtf are you talking about? he just complained about repetitive storytelling

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Synths are at least interesting and add something cool to the universe

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No joke, please explain this to me, it was shock to find out that people thought that the institute was the bad guys, when they are clearly the best ones to fix boston

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BoS has a cool blimp and cool armors while the the Boston Institute's reps can't spout two coherent sentences back to back like the Railroad prostitutes.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait a minute... How the frick does Nick inhale his cigarette? He has no lungs. If he does.... why does he?!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He probably has some robotic lungs as a gen 2.5 synth. He can feel pain too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why do they make their robot slaves able to have emotions or feel pain? that shit doesn't happen on accident

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A synth that feels pain is more convincing as a human. It's useless to Nick since he's just a prototype version between the gen 2 and gen 3 leap and looks like a robot.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bethesdrones using headcanon to explain emil's slop
    He's not paying you. Stupid Black folk.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Six points...six triangles and 6-sided hexagon in the middle...that's a very strange coincidence...

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fallout 4 BOS - Enclave Lite
    Institute - Enclave 2.0

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any mods that make the railroad and the institution less moronic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not unless they changed the whole questline that has you enter the institute with Father expecting you, pulling a cruel prank then presenting himself for target practice. The institute is terminally dumb. Same with the Railroad. Unless somebody changes their password to be something other then their Faction name, plus has them move when they suspect that you've been compromised they are terminally moronic too. There is no fixing it otherwise

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Typical sole survivor will have met 1 good synth in Nick and 99% violent killer robots
        >WOULD YOU DIE FOR SYNTHS?
        >Uhh... depends
        >NO THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH

        Railroad needed a better goal or focus than Synth Liberation. I don't like destroying them but they're moronic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would die for based Nick Valentine t b h
          and Curie

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah its actually a really nice moment if Nick is with you and you're friends by that point. But if you git there without meeting him it feels like a very simple minded and stupid stance for people to be taking.

            Espescially with the mind wiping

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              From their perspective they know a lot of good synths and can't imagine anything but freedom for them. But yeah they are fanatical about it and even DiMA doesn't like how they treat synths or that they want to destroy the Institute.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vegas sloppers on suicide watch ITT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who keeps making these? It's cringekino

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know, the dumbest part of the Railroad is actually Bethesda not keeping the idea till they make a Canada based Fallout especially considering Canada is Burger clay anyways in Falloutverse.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      new wojakslop just dropped.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now do 3. These are unironically great because they are clearly made by people who genuinely enjoy the series.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >graffity

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the worst part of the fallout games is that they didn’t nuke India

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sidequest in 3 that just makes up a bunch of stuff cuz bladerunner or something
    >"hmmmm, what if we make a whole game out of this?"
    Basically what happened

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean yeah, but almost any starving amateur writer can turn "post apocalypse but a secretive faction continued unhindered and largely unsupervised scientic progress" into something more exciting and coherent than what we have.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Institute is one of the better Fallout factions

    There I said it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are moronic. They put trackers in their Gen 2 synths but don't put trackers in their Gen 3 synths.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trackers could be used to detect synths by other factions

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then have them inert until activated. Problem solved

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They could be activated by someone else

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why don't they put trackers in Gen 3 synths that are never intended to leave the institute? They aren't replacing anyone or infiltrating any settlement so there is no need to worry about errant radio signals.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They could escape which happens often because scientists go rogue and free them

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What would your vault experiment be?
    Hard Mode: Nothing Sexual

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      me and 100 horny Assaultrons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vault consisting of 1 male white supremacist member of /misc/ and 999 nymph level attractive women of all ethnicities except white, none of which are christian.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Being a Fallout 4 chad in a sea of New Vegas troons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vault members must receive 12 hugs a day minimum. Emotional and mental growth will be measured as well as how society operates. I just want someone to hold me, if even for a moment.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      vault 68 or 69

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "The Truman Vault"
      Everything is handled by robots and their lives are LITERALLY PERFECT. But, they are unknowingly filmed 24/7 and are a TV show for other random vaults.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Deathclaw breeding facility

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those probably existed pre-war

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the Vault is storage space for jarred brains remotely controlling disposable (and increasingly genetically engineered) clone bodies like the lobotomites from Big Mt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nothing sexual
      Castration then, half without dicks and half without balls, study the psychological impact while reminding everyone daily the overseer gets to keep both
      >but why
      To be an butthole for no reason, like every vault from the Todd Fallouts

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fallout sales
    >600,000
    >Fallout 2 sales
    >120,000
    >Fallout Tactics sales
    >300,00

    >Fallout 3 sales
    >12.4 million
    >Fallout NV sales
    >11.6 million
    >Fallout 4 sales
    >25 million

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did Fallout 4 sell so much?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Skyrim with guns
        seriously

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a great game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Oblivion, 2006
        >Fallout 3, 2008
        >Skyrim, 2011

        bethesda could do no wrong at this point

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did Fallout 2 have abysmal sales? Because it released so soon after the last one?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it was nothing like the first one.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How about a vault with no real experiment BUT they are told that all the other vaults have experiments and nobody confirms or denies theirs have no experiment

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is what is known as a control vault. Those exist in Fallout

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fallout 4's settlement building sucks absolute wiener.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it was nice enough

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want more Enclave even if it makes zero sense, and some Enclave women.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone please post the dialouge comparison. With the fo3 guy saying they are " a badass gang" or something. And Mr. house talking about important people.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's too complicated for you to understand.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Line taken out of context when you fail a speech check asking about Kellogg.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >play Far Harbor
    >get sick of "IS SHE A SYNTH OR NOT???" shit
    >blow Kasumi's brains out with a shotgun point blank
    >"ouchie!"
    >she stumbles for a bit before getting back up on her feet
    Frick you todd

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bethesda doesn't make roleplaying games, you should have known better

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Killing someone and reloading the save so you don't have to think about the story is not roleplaying.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is if you are roleplaying as a timelord

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm a savescumming gay so everyone is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shes not a synth, if you remove her essential tag and kill her she doesn't have a synth component. Contrast this against say Sturges who if you remove his essential tag and blow his brains out he drops a synth component .

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It just keeps getting worse. For all the credit people give to the exploration in their games, they are absolutely incompetent when it comes to player freedom when it comes to any quests. Items and immortal characters will materialize out of nowhere when objectives are completed because Bethesda doesn't know how to program quests with skippable steps. It just worsens the issue of no one giving a single frick about the story, reading notes, listening to what anyone is saying because you're not going to be allowed to figure shit out for yourself anyway, you're completely restricted by what the quest marker is telling you so might as well just blindly follow it.
      Absolutely immersion-breaking every time, their games are just Borderlands lite at this point.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You did not play the games, you watched some eceleb critique.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Boy, it sure is easy to argue with men made of straw.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stop killing [Essential] NPCs.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick does Curie keep going to Vault 81. STAY IN SANCTUARY YOU PLASTIC FRENCH c**t

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people trust DiMA? He's clearly unreliable even after you learn his secrets. He literally tries to convince everybody who comes to see him that they are synths.
    The question Dima should have been asking is "When was the last time you slept?" That's not merely a gameplay thing, Synths don't need to sleep so Nate could just "forget" that he needs to

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Synths need to sleep. Curie complains about it after getting her new body. Even if DiMA was manipulating you to be on his side his point simply stands correct regardless of that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So why does the Institute state that they don’t need to sleep?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Max Loken disagrees and he designs Synths

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then he's making synths that can go without sleep. Curie however cannot so there are synths that have to sleep.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DiMA is a known manipulator. Even when confronted with what he did to Captain Avery within second he suggest doing it again to the children of the atom. Then, he creates a contingency where he will shut off the power to Far Harbor and kill every there if they ever find out. He plots and schemes and created lies within lies.
      It should be obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that anything and everything DiMA says should be taken as blatant bullshit. The idea the PC could be a synth was never a suggestion until the one person who has been factually proven to be a liar tries to convince you that you're one without any evidence.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nate being a synth is proven in the intro of the game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Buy an ad you homosexual. Go shill your shitty videos somewhere else.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          see

          >no evidence

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nate is a synth
    so they went through the trouble getting back into the Vault via teleporter to put in a synth that will possibly going against their whole system

    >Nate isn't a synth
    He can use VATS without a pipboy

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like the new update could have been a chance for them to elaborate on the institute’s plans.

    I love fallout 4 but I legitimately don’t see the entire picture there.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Troonsisters..... this was supposed to be thread that destroys Fallout 4... what happened?

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. If Nate is a synth why doesn't he have a shutdown code. It'd be immensely irresponsible for Shaun not to program him with one
    2. If he does have a kill code why doesn't Shaun use it if you get aggressive with him or the institute
    3. Why doesn't the institute turn hostile or use his shutdown code when Shaun dies at the end of the Institute questline. With Shaun dead there is no reason to humor the "experiment" any longer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And why doesn't the Brotherhood find anything on Nate when they scroll through the archives. Hell I'm pretty sure he would've been top priority to see if he matched with any of the names.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would Shaun program him with one? He does not wish to kill him and wants him to do whatever he wants with the Institute.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're juts making up head canon at this point anon.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No this is the story that the game presented to me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You realized that we all played the same game right?
            You can't make shit up then try to lampshade into reality. Hell, you may as well claim that you saw it in a dream at this point.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Many people agree with me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Consensus is irrelevant.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The consensus is that you will never be a woman

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember how people were mad for years at the theories that Deckard is a replicant? And then Riddley Scott just says he is. Based.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you ever hear the tragedy of Fabio, the Gigabased?
    "No."
    "I thought not. It's not a story the NVtroons would tell you. It's a Betheschad legend. Fabio... was an Italian actor and a shitposter so powerful and so based, he could use the memes to influence the consensus... to create... kino. He had such a knowledge of the Fallout lore, he could even keep the Fallout 3 threads he cared about... from being 404."
    "He could actually... save threads from jannies?"
    "The based side of the shitposting is a pathway to many abilities... some consider to be unnatural."
    "Wh– What happened to him?"
    "He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was... losing his power. Which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew. Then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic. He could save Fallout 3, but not himself."
    "Is it possible to learn this power?"
    "Not from a Troon."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gets btfo in other thread
      >leaves and comes here to fellate himself and cry

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What thread?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gets called out
          >plays dumb
          You really are the most pathetic homosexual, let me guess you’re going to keep going and when I show the thread you’ll just cry about how I’m a schizo and that it wasn’t you despite the fact that only your ass would care enough to defend yourself like this.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No I'm serious what thread?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This one https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/675766642/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wasn't in this thread, sorry.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All you have is your word, which is worth nothing.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >player.placeatme 7 1
    >Click copy
    >Kill
    >loot
    >No Synth Component
    And there is your answer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >have to enter console
      not canon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This ends the discussion on the matter.
      The player doesn't have a synth component on them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not canon, you have to enter the console

        >Because there is only so much the Institute will tolerate. So it is best to appease them
        So they won’t tolerate a whole synth family but they will tolerate a synth being their leader. The level of cognitive dissonance is absurd.
        >It would still be her family because she cares about them. That is all that matters
        Except if she was a synth and thought she was a synth it wouldn’t be
        >Yes it can
        I figured you would say this and not attempt to elaborate or explain why.

        They do not tolerate it but Nate proves himself.
        Nope she cares about her family more than being a synth in the end.
        And yes it can.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not canon, you have to enter the console
          Doesn't matter. The player doesn't have a component on them. End of discussion.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it is the end for you because you have no arguments left. Bye bye.

            >They do not tolerate it but Nate proves himself
            You’re just going in circles and repeating shit that has already been addressed
            >Nope she cares about her family more than being a synth in the end
            Again ignoring the issue
            >And yes it can
            If you could you already would have. Now you’re going to make an excuse so you can leave while acting smug.

            Has not been adressed
            Not ignoring anything
            Yes it can

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So now you’re not even trying to argue and just desperately giving short answers to try a prolong this bullshit. Stop being a moron and just accept you wrong.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They do not tolerate it but Nate proves himself
          You’re just going in circles and repeating shit that has already been addressed
          >Nope she cares about her family more than being a synth in the end
          Again ignoring the issue
          >And yes it can
          If you could you already would have. Now you’re going to make an excuse so you can leave while acting smug.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's not what he said. Most Gankerermin are too moron to actually play the game and pay attention. They NEED constant dialogue dumps from NPCs to learn about the setting.

    >"Ultimately, all our knowledge and resources are focused on a single goal. That goal is best summarized by our motto: Mankind - redefined."

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the PC using VATS without a pipboy seems more like an oversight than intentionally writing them a synth

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It would be if synths didn't have that ability
      No other Fallout protag can do it

      So now you’re not even trying to argue and just desperately giving short answers to try a prolong this bullshit. Stop being a moron and just accept you wrong.

      I cannot accept something that I'm not.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You don’t have a choice, you haven’t been able to argue and in fact are actively choosing to avoid it because you know you can’t. You’re just in denial at this point.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, I'm right.

          'member that time all the morons spewing "kino" and the gigachad meme was outed as dirty pajeets by starfields utter failure
          i 'member

          YWNBAW

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ywnbaw
            yes my penis prevents that
            and they say public education is failing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm right, I can’t argue how or explain how but I am
            You’re like a child that just keeps saying nu uh to everything. You’re just going to keep getting more and more pathetic from here.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Get proven factually wrong.
            >Resorts to name calling and Nu uh posting

            I think we found the real synth guys.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You did not prove anything

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and the Lonesome Wanderer can leave the Vault as a baby, I don't believe it was intentional and was an oversight by Bethesda which is entirely possible given their track record.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If there was a plot point about lonesome wanderer leaving the vault as a baby it would not be an oversight

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      VATS shouldnt even be real

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if New Vegas was good

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that MURRICAN LOL threads are made by Americans, Specifically : inbred backwood hillbilly moronic rednecks as a form of trolling and bait.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    'member that time all the morons spewing "kino" and the gigachad meme was outed as dirty pajeets by starfields utter failure
    i 'member

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KINO thread holy shit

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if the ganges was in a fallout game how many rads a sec do you think it would give? or would it just instakill you

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't the Doctor at the memory den not discover Nate was synth? She scans your memories if you go to her before killing Kellog. Shouldn't she have noticed a distinct lack of memories?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They just play the intro vault memory in your head, that's all. They don't notice anything.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why? Why would she not notice that you have no prior memories or address that?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They can't see that.

          >spawn copy of nate
          >kill it
          >loot it
          >no synth part
          gg no re
          >but but thats n-
          if it wasnt intended you couldnt die in the game and inventories wouldnt exist
          gg
          no re

          Not an argument. Not canon, just like Vegas.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Except they can because they have to monitor you while you’re in the machine. Stop making excuses to try and justify your moronic headcanon.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So? They monitor one memory from the intro. If anything that proves he is a synth.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why didn’t she acknowledge it then? If he was a synth she would have definitely said something. But she didn’t, again stop making up moronic excuses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No reason to assume that he is a synth. They would have to scan for more memories.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only memory that was there was him leaving the vault. Why not something else like him spending time with his family? That is immediately cause to ask questions or call something out, but it never happens. So again stop making moronic excuses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really, the machine playing that particular memory is not a cause for concern.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But it’s the only memory, and it’s not even a good or pleasant one, it’s one of him waking up to discover his wife and the rest of the vault are dead. Why would he choose that one? Why aren’t there others? Seriously nothing you have argued makes any sense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but they didnt have breakfast that morning?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well that's the thing, to pin point a memory she has to scan your brain for them. She could detect memories, she does so in the Kellog sequence. This makes you wonder why she didn't notice Nate has a distinct lack of memories if hes a synth

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She detects the intro memory and that is what plays

          If Nate was a synth Amari wouldn't have needed Nick to test Kellog's implant either since she could have just tried it on Nate instead.

          They don't know he is a synth.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They don't know he is a synth.
            Because he's not. Amari would have noticed something was off during the Kellog memory sequence and mentioned it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There is nothing to notice during the sequence

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There is nothing to notice during the sequence
                Because Nate's NOT a synth. I honestly can't imagine you're legitimately this fricking moronic. During the Kellog memory sequence it would have been obvious to Amari that something was off with Nate and she would have said so. The fact she says nothing proves there was nothing out of the ordinary because Nate is a ordinary human. I don't know how much more you have to be spoonfed the obvious before you realize you're wrong.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, but that makes no sense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sorry, but that makes no sense.
                Because you're too stupid to understand something so obvious. That's what we've been trying to tell you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I mean... it genuinely makes no sense. I think you might be brain damaged.

                Because the syths are faulty and, as I expressly stated, cyborg research would benefit the scientists who would have a self insert in the research

                Cyborg mercs are more faulty, which is why Kellogg is disposed of. And scientists might as well just get robo brain bodies instead of experimenting on themselves.

                But it’s the only memory, and it’s not even a good or pleasant one, it’s one of him waking up to discover his wife and the rest of the vault are dead. Why would he choose that one? Why aren’t there others? Seriously nothing you have argued makes any sense.

                Why? Because that' what he experienced.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >experimenting on themselves.
                They would experiment on other human subjects and then benefit from the shit that works

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They would just make another Kellogg. If they made even more of them it could be dangerous.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why? Because that' what he experienced
                And that would be cause for alarm given that he has no memories before that and the Amari would see that and be suspicious. Like I have said multiple times you have nothing, you’re just making excuses to try and justify your idiotic head canon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would she be suspicious? People come there to play memories all the time. You play it and get out. You have nothing and grasp at straws.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why would she be suspicious of the guy with no memories prior to waking up in the vault
                You really are coping at this point
                >no u
                This is just getting sad

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you have no answer

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did not read the greentext or are just going to leave out anything that proves you wrong?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're just repeating yourself, sorry. Maybe you can come up with something new in the thread tomorrow.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You're just repeating yourself
                Never said anything about greentexts prior to this. But the fact that you’re desperately resorting to “no u” instead of trying to argue the point again, shows that you know you’re wrong.
                >in the thread tomorrow
                Imagine being so fricked in the head that you would openly admit you’re going to post this same shit again with no shame whatsoever.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I will post in Fallout 4 threads every day. You have plenty of time to come up with actual arguments.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                burden of proof is on the proponent of the theory, this nate synth nonsense is something which has to be proven not disproven
                also keep in mind this guy just spams wojaks and shitty memes, not engaging in good faith lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Proven in the first hour of gameplay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no evidence

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If Nate was a synth Amari wouldn't have needed Nick to test Kellog's implant either since she could have just tried it on Nate instead.

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least Fallout NV is original. Fallout 4 just copied Philp Dicks and Isaac Asimovs homework

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wish New Vegas was original, even a little bit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The ranger armor is based on a description from Fallout 1 and both House and Andrew Ryan are based off of Howard Hughs.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Killzone did not invent gas masks with glowing lenses, Bioshock did not invent eccentric industrialist geniuses either.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No but New Vegas copy and pasted both

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              House isn't a copy of Andrew Ryan, he was a Fallout version of Howard Hughes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not to mention the Ranger Armor was described in the first game which is almost ten years before the first Killzone game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if anything Ranger Armor was inspired by Jin-Roh's Protect Gear but even then it would be manga inspired since the movie was 99' while FO1 was 97'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bioshock Howard Hughes came first and Vegas copy and pasted it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know this is bait but sometimes you come across something so moronic you can't help but
          >Ranger armor is based on Jin Roh's Kerberos Panzercop
          > House is based on the eccentric billionaire archetype (Walt Disney, Elon Musk, Howard Hughes)

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >spawn copy of nate
    >kill it
    >loot it
    >no synth part
    gg no re
    >but but thats n-
    if it wasnt intended you couldnt die in the game and inventories wouldnt exist
    gg
    no re

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really do enjoy how disingenuous these FO4 vs NV images are

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even get the appeal of f4 gameplay wise
    shit's so fricking dull

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pajeets arent human fallout 4 is a bad game the middle east is a shithole and will get nuked for real soon so i hope the egyptian autistic really really *really* likes fallout 4 and isnt memeing and this threads shit
    gooooooooooooooooodnight everybody!
    >but i didnt have breakfast

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It really is that simple

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