why are jrpgs like this

why are jrpgs like this

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >japs are so good at writing stories people need to actually think about it to fully understand it all
    >this is somehow a bad thing

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this isn't good storytelling. skyrim is good storytelling.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >skyrim is good storytelling

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. I just want to be a warrior with a big sword. I hate these hacks

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          HE CANT BREEEEF!!!

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        good joke

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >skyrim is good storytelling.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one on this board can probably make it through a RPG these days without constant reminders of where to go and what to do.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's the player's fault, not the writers!
      that's why museums are now filled with bananas tapped on walls

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >convoluted forced story = deep and good
      kys gayget

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The japs are very good with themes and more grandiose ideas. They suck at general writing though. A lot of it is infantile which is why Ganker loves it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      14 year old understanding of what makes a story good detected

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > kotaku writing clickbait after clickbait for this game because squareenix won't answer their calls

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i wonder why

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/4393kBY.png

        why are jrpgs like this

        listen here
        if this game tanks, squeenix will be hurting financially. That's when Blackrock et al move in and pozz the frick out of your favorite IPs. If you want to celebrate narrative authenticity, help square stay in the saddle. Or this might be the last chance to play a new final fantasy game without shoehorned upjumped minorities written to stand out like an impetuous sore thumb. No matter how you feel about this franchise now, things could be much, much worse, because this company is due for some cultural enrichment. Pic related

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >squeenix will be hurting financially

          no they won't - they have plenty of money and also already have sony's money for ffxvi

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That would require me buying a whole console for one game.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        She got promoted to Genshin Impact. She now does writing for the trailers yet tells everyone she now writes Genshin Impact.

        She will always fail upwards. At least her first game, Midautumn, bombed hard.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's not confusing there's just going to be many side characters.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it needs a glossary to explain all the nonsense terms it uses then it's too confusing.
      Also too many characters means they are going to be 1 dimensional anime archetypes (IE complete SHIT) because they won't have time to flesh them out.
      There are dozens of examples of this happening in the past with JRPGs.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kotaku

    Can you report these threads? or are they withing the rules?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      report for what
      nothing is linked

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        it doesn't have to be linked.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's basically shitposting/trolling at this point.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          How so? It's to discuss why JRPG stories are so convoluted.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This board isn't for the discussion of video games it is solely for posting video game porn.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thats right. Nothing wrong with that. I feel great browsing Ganker every day seeing the stuff I want to see

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        because he doesn't like it its considered a shit/troll post.*

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No way these losers are doubling down in the most moronic way because they are butthurt about being banned kek'd

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Normies were filtered by GoT too so I assume it'll be as great as that.
    Too much lore really sucks when you don't have a high IQ.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    sounds like 14 to me

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kotaku are actually correct here.
    I love JRPG's but I've been trying to work that out for years myself.
    In almost all of their media they seem to think that writing clusterfrick stories with endless twists and turns is a good thing - but then they forget to write characters with any more depth than a puddle of water.
    It should be the other way around. Write simple stories, and complex characters.

    I don't know why they are like this, they are (generally) just utter shit at writing for some reason, it doesn't make sense coz they are so good with art direction and music etc.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      And i'll ad this isn't the first time this shit has happened. Writer/Director of Chrono Cross Masato Kato even once said that the story doesn't make any fricking sense, but try not to worry about it and just "enjoy the ride".

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off Luke. Nobody likes you and we're all laughing at your entire outlet getting banned from Japan.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it "should" not be any other way around, dumb frick. they "should" have a solid foundation first and foremost, everything else should develop on its own later. it doesn't have to be simple or complex, it just has to make sense and be good

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        youre talking about art
        this is zogslop anon
        you cast pearls before swine, literally, fat gay pigges

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it just has to make sense
        JRPGs never make sense. There's always these ethereal forces at work and you can't tell if they're figurative or literal, or what they're actually even doing or why. And then sudden mysterious characters show up and it turns out they're the personification of abstract concepts, like Greek gods or something. And then, in a "shocking plot twist," it turns out the backstory for why everything's happening is a lie and it was all manufactured by this one guy, who is a big liar, but wait, which things did he lie about exactly? Not everything, right? Because some things must be true. But wait, he works for so-and-so, are they in it? And then the guy touches a giant floating crystal and it transforms him in a half-angel half-octopus who can fire lasers out of his mouth and you have to save the world by punching him.

        It is difficult to follow along. Especially if you're young or just trying to enjoy the game casually. You're not taking notes of every little thing that gets said and there's a good chance you forgot stuff between one session and the next. Humans don't have very good retention. So yes, when the giant robots pop out of the ground and the Latin choir hits, most people are going to be confused about why they suddenly have time traveling powers.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Write simple stories,
      This is why Chrono Trigger worked so damn well. It was a simple story, and because of that they were able to focus on elements of writing that mattered more, like the pacing, the character scenarios, the set pieces where you have to make choices (the trial was groundbreaking for eg) and also how making changes in one time period would effect the other time periods and have significant changes to not only the story but the areas it opened up for you.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It should be the other way around. Write simple stories, and complex characters.

      This is the opinion of an emotional woman who needs someone to relate to in order to be interested. Men prefer stories with high concepts and interesting scenarios.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yoshida is responsible for some of the greatest writing and story telling in video games history with all his work done on FFXIV.

    I think I'll trust him on this instead of Kotaku lmao

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can't you read - the people that made the game said they can't understand it - not kotaku.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this going to be like FF13 datalog? Looks like they kept the linear hallways too. Maybe Toriyama is helping with the project but that doesn’t even make sense since none of the girls even look as good as Lightning

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kotaku did the same salty shit because Nintendo blacklisted then from ToTK, posting spoilers and how to emulate it pre-release.
    The end of Kotaku is imminent thanks to based jap devs

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Blacklisted by Ubisoft
      >Blacklisted by Nintendo
      >Blacklisted by Square
      >Keeps posting articles that justify exactly why they're blacklisted
      The latest 16 article is just pure salt.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the fact that kotaku was so buttblasted to wrote an article on a qol addition to ffxvi made me hard

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can barely understand the trailer dialogues, left alone the story... Is it intentionally made to be confusing?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >merely pretending

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm talking about how the trailer dialogues are just random "cool" sentences thrown around but dont match with the scenes.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          those "random cool" sentences give people who are actually interested in the story context clues, more lore info, theories, etc. It's also nice to hear more lines from some of the characters.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    no one heard of worldbuilding in this thread
    no one knows why GoT was popular (the books not the smut)

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with having an ingame glossarys and bestiaries

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's preferred. Bestiaries are awesome especially if they have a 3D model viewer or letting me know more in-game information like what they drop.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only Japanese game ever made with a good story is YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >some random hentai visual novel is the best story Japan has to offer
      lol

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >trash tier eroge from the 90s
      >good story
      more like (you) no

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >implying the date of the release has any bearing on the quality of a story
        I expect nothing more from a basedteen

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They got everyone together and read the complete script for a 30+ hour story. Of course some people got confused or lost some things along the way, so they added a real-time updating notes section for those who can't remember everything or everyone.
    Almost everyone in the previews who mentioned this praised it as a great and well-implemented idea, I don't know why Kotaku is trying to make it a bad thing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >taking a dev's comments out of context for the purposes of click bait articles
      Tale as old as time

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      because it forces them to actually engage with a game instead of just trudging on to get a review out

  18. 10 months ago
    doodpoop

    Devs don't need to follow the story, only the story guy needs to be able to and he directs the devs to put it together. They can figure it out on their own time.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nobody needs to be able to understand the story except the guy that wrote it
      lol

      • 10 months ago
        doodpoop

        No, I'm saying the homosexual that models the trees doesn't need to understand the story, that's not his job. The lackey coding the combat system doesn't need to understand the story, that's not his job. Etc.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Next time use same font

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know Kotaku is garbage, but this is incredibly unprofessional and almost slander. From the previews, everyone is saying the main story is very straightforward and character-driven, but the world and lore is very extensive. The lore explainer isn't there to "make sense of the perplexing narrative", but to let people who are interested in the lore dive into it if they wish so.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    JRPG's are in the Rabelais/Tristram Shady genre, the rambling kaleidoscopic absurdity is the charm of it.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kino confirmed.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm still convinced Yoshida said this shit to play the reverse racism card against kotakus diversity complaints

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