Why are Nintendo always earning underserved praise for old ideas?

TOTK hasn't done anything new from any of these games on the bottom row of this picture. It just slapped this gameplay on top of the existing game of Breath of the Wild and that's enough to earn a 96 on metacritic. And this has collectively blown the minds of Zelda fans as well for some absurd reason.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they put those ideas in an actual game instead of a bare bones sandbox.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nuts and bolts is an actual game with designed Levels and stages.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was also objectively not good.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It was also objectively not good.
          Explain objectively in this scenario. And we can make comparisons between the two games to also score TOTK as a bad game on that note.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nuts and bolts is just not fun

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Its not fun. It's not good. I played it on release. ToTK is just better

              "Fun" is a buzzowrd only mentally ill troons use who cannot accurately describe why a game is good. Only because you think it's "fun" doesn't mean it's good.
              Fricking morons.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Muh buzzword
                Cope.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you play video game if it's not fun?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >mentally ill troons
                but ACgay you are a mentally ill troon.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but ACgay
                I've noticed a common theme of referring to someone as 'acgay' whenever someone critiques nu Zelda. These mentally ill fanboys have created their own narrative of who they're talking to.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its not fun. It's not good. I played it on release. ToTK is just better

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Its not fun
              That's not an objective critique. That's highly subjective.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fun is a objective measure and I'm tiered of pretending its not

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Fun is a objective measure
                Well if we're using it as an objective measure: i didn't have fun with BOTW or TOTK. So does that make them bad games? BOTW had already retread old ground of western open world games and took away the markers and i was apparently supposed to be blown away by that. They come back at the idea with the sequel and it was just lets put a very basic builder mechanic on top of it to solve puzzles or quests. I wasn't having fun. I did have fun with Nuts & Bolts because it was a more focused experience on that, there was more depth in those mechanics. Often when games try to be the jack of all trades they end up being the master of none, that was very much the case with TOTK

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                you didn't play those games.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Haven't played this new game, but I also didn't have much fun with BOTW. Though maybe for different reasons.

                The controls just felt bad in BOTW, idk what it was specifically but it just felt similar to fighting to walk through half shin deep mud. Like the game was fighting against you.
                I also didn't like the durability on stuff. Was annoying as shit that you could basically never make progress equipment wise as you have to save all the better stuff for boss fights so you don't break them on goblins. Should have removed the durability mechanic completely and just made it harder to get the better weapons. Even the master sword was a massive disappointment. The master sword should have been a be all end all. You get it and its both the strongest weapon and unbreakable.
                I often ended up being forced to awkwardly fight enemies using the shitty puzzle abilities due to all my weapons breaking in a single fight. Running in circles for 20 minutes chucking bombs is not fun.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I still don't understand how posts like this exist. Never in either game did I run out of weapons or struggle with durability. Yeah I had to consider an appropriate one for what I'm fighting but exploration always kept me with 90% of my slots filled.
                As for controls, the only time I've seen complaints is when someone emulated and thought m+kb was superior for this.
                I question most of these posts for never playing them since most of the information reads like a 2nd hand account. A retelling with no specifics.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, 90% filled with trash weapons that can barely damage end game enemies and break in 10 hits. I ended up keeping stock piles of the better ones in my home to go get before boss fights so I don't have to waste their durability if the designated shitty weapon slot for shit grabbed off the ground breaks.
                As for the controls, I don't know how I can get more specific? it just felt like the movement and fighting was constrained to me. Like someone took the original design for it and dialled it back to a 6 or a 7.

                Then again, now that I think about it, I played it right after finishing Elden ring, so my view could have been skewed by a sub-conscious comparison.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Sure, 90% filled with trash weapons that can barely damage end game enemies and break in 10 hits.
                Unironically a skill issue. You probably didn't care to find the best weapons and fuse it with the best items, or didn't care to fight in a different way besides just the weapons/bow and arrow, or didn't bother using defensive items/cook food/drink elixirs. Or the most recent thing, inventory expansion. Because there's no way that by endgame you don't have good weapons. No fricking way lmao. Did you ignore all the pristine weapons and the armor sets or something? Ignore all the great fairies?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing broke in 10 hits and your house could only hold about 5 weapons in the frames, hardly stockpiles compared to a casual wander through the castle.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Literal brainlet.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That's highly subjective.
                So are game journo reviews. Jim homosexual said that climbing in the rain and weapon durability are still issues despite the numerous amount of options to circumvent those mechanics. Objectively TOTK should be rated a 10 because they found a middle ground to reconcile weapon durability with exploration. But since the fat homosexual clearly opened back his shitty website to prove an agenda, unless you're saying he's lying then game reviews are subjective.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >game reviews are subjective.
                Nta but that’s the point he’s making.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Objectively TOTK should be rated a 10 because they found a middle ground to reconcile weapon durability with exploration
                Why is that objectively a 10? does fixing a flawed game mechanic warrant a higher score because of this?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            the banjo game even looks better graphically wtf

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not really. It's just covered in rubbery ass 7th gen bloom.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just like totk then? Shoehorning fuse and vehicles in does not make it good either kek.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why hasn't there been a template thread yet?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because söyj-ACK is fricking gay

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    None of the games polish the multitudinous mechanics into a coherent whole like TOTK does. Keep coping while we keep winning.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >None of the games polish the multitudinous mechanics into a coherent whole like TOTK does
      All you've been selling TOTK's merits on is look at this stupid thing i can build to get a task done. All of these games do this. In fact TOTK is far more primitive compared to any of these games with their depth of mechanics in building.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Nu-zelda fans don't actually play games and so seeing a freeroam game with physics and Lego is something completely new to them

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >two games no one has heard of
    >a game that is widely considered to be dogshit
    not to mention Gmod came out before all of these and is more advanced
    it's not really about who did it first anon, you should know that

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a game that is widely considered to be dogshit
      Not really. If you're referring to Nuts & bolts it's considered bad by Banjo fans because they wanted a platformer. Nuts & Bolts is a very competent builder game. It's very well polished.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TOTK hasn't done anything new from any of these games on the bottom row of this picture.

    As always with you mentally ill tweens, you have no understanding of video games at all. Your grasp of game design is barely superficial so when educated adults weigh in with their opinions, you are utterly baffled by them.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Your grasp of game design is barely superficial so when educated adults weigh in with their opinions
      >t.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >educated adults
      >Yoshida

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo have been doing that since the original Zelda on NES haha..

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    get over it

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >morons clawing so desperately for something that they've started simping for fricking nuts and bolts
    it's a shit game that was rightfully and relentlessly shat on and none of you homosexuals played it or totk

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >none of you homosexuals played it
      I own a copy of, it's sitting right next to my 360. Sorry but Jontron was being a sperg and i don't give a frick what he thinks about it. Banjo fans were only angry because it wasn't the game they wanted. It was a good game in it's own right. And until you can provide objective critique of it then you won't change my mind on it.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they execute the ideas ever.
    Mario 64 wasn't the first 3D platformer but it may as well have been, etc etc.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    By now you should have have figured out that ideas are worthless no matter how much potential they have or how unique they are. Making a good product is all that matters. Also look into the design process for BotW if you really want to know what makes it different.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Innovation by execution. It's the same tactic used by Apple to introduce stuff to the masses that others did first and taking credit for it when it is massively successful. And just like how the Mac Pro or Airpower is kept silent at Apple, you don't say anything about the stuff that Nintendo published and brushed off and forgot like the last Star Fox or Kid Icarus game which fell flat.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Innovation by execution
      But it doesn't really innovate or do anything better than the games i listed, it's puzzles still really feel like it's grounded in BOTW. In fact it's far more basic than any of them in regards to vehicle building. If this had even matched anything close to Nuts & Bolts level of creativity then I'd probably be able to accept the praise they got. The problem is that it didn't do that. It was not flawlessly executed compared to it's predecessors.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you don't say anything about the stuff that Nintendo published and brushed off and forgot like the last Star Fox or Kid Icarus game which fell flat.
      What's your point? Those are good games.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Star Fox Zero basically killed the series for good. Dunno why he brought up Kid Icarus though.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's an underrated game. The masses were never going to like it because "Muh motion controls". It's like one of the top three Starfox games. I like it better than 64 in some regards.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            The controls are pretty bad. And there aren't that many good Star Fox games other than 64.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              All Range Mode is shit in 64. Drags the whole game down. Zero does that about ten times better.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                64 is still the overall better game.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Star Fox Zero basically killed the series for good
          no it's not

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    because nintendo gays only play nintendo games and are clueless to other game mechanics unless daddy nintendo brings it to them

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and are clueless to other game mechanics unless daddy nintendo brings it to them
      More like salty homosexuals like you know how good TOTK is so you sour grape over it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        tried it (for free)
        realized it's mid
        got bored and quit
        keep praising your slop while i play actually good games since i'm not kept to 1 platform only

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      And you've played all four of those games and can tell us exactly how Zelda is inferior, of course?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's straight up cult behavior. Transparent, too.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    because tendies are mentally ill homosexuals that eat anything nintendo shits on their plate
    such a mediocre, low-performing game would've never sold without it's name, same as the new pokemon slop
    make sure to call me names and be as tribalistic as usual to defend your childhood company for free

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because nintendies have no experience outside their bing bing wahoo machine and mechanics that have already been done a decade ago feel mindblowing to them

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ToTK is so innovative that devs have no clue how they did it. None of those games can do the same as ToTK.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Ganker so predictable

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Go away. Anyone not against Tears of the gamers should leave, this is a strict anti botw and totk forum

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The magic formula is doing those old ideas and apply it proper in current gaming landscape.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo is the Apple of videogames
    Strong cult of people who will just buy about anything from them
    Overpriced, underpowered garbage
    Claim to innovate when they just popularize something that has been there before
    It's all there

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >will just buy about anything from them
      explain wii u

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They can't sell if there's nothing to buy

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wii U was a good console.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            pfhah

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You loved all of it's games once they repackaged them for the Switch.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most of the Switch best games are exclusive and the best "repackaged" games have new content and mechanics not on the Wii U.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            thanks for the laughs

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >one of the best Mario games
              >one of the best Zelda games
              >the best Donkey Kong game
              >possibly the best Mario Kart game
              >two of Platinum's best games
              >one of the best Xenoblade games
              >brought back Pikmin after a ten year absence
              >decent entries for Kirby, Yoshi, whatever Captain Toad is
              >Starfox Zero is better than everyone says it is
              >Splatoon
              No, it's a pretty good console. I shouldn't have to justify this to people at this point. It might even be better than the Switch if you discount all of the Switch games that aren't exclusives.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zero is better than everyone says it is
                No it isn't

                You're delusional.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is. You probably haven't played it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I thought it was a good console. It's also the moment i stopped officially supporting Nintendo because they abandoned it. I don't want to support a company that doesn't do home consoles anymore. I really liked the idea they went with and unfortunately it went underutilized because Nintendo didn't want to pour money into the r&d due to it already hemorrhaging money from low sales. You're also forgetting Wonderful 101. Another game that made great use with the gamepad and was originally a Wii U exclusive, same with Bayo2. Anyone knocking the Wii U are being very harsh despite it having very good exclusives.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                entries for Kirby
                This one is a lie. Rainbow Curse is utter trash, don't try to pretend otherwise.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The absolute worst marketing you could imagine. Most thinking it's a wii peripheral, this lead to almost no 3rd party support after launch.
        Functionally a stepping stone to the switch whilst trying out the 2 screen thing for consoles. The system itself wasn't the worst but 3rd parties had too much extra effort and were still making wii versions regardless.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sony is the Apple of videogames
      Strong cult of people who will just buy about anything from them
      Overpriced, underpowered garbage
      Claim to innovate when they just popularize something that has been there before
      It's all there

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Strong cult of people who will just buy about anything from them
      I think a large factor of it certainly ties into nostalgia that blinds critics from really reviewing the game they're supposed to be reviewing. They already have sentimental value towards it and this clouds their judgement. There are definitely Zelda fanboys among professional reviewers.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm convinced no one actually played nuts and bolts if you think it's anything like TOTK beyond "you can build a car"

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they do it well

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >one game is better than 3 games put together
    >NO THIS IS UNDESERVED HORIZON DESERVED THE GOTY

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