Why are people getting so worked up against this battle?

First of all, levels are irrelevant, so stop with that "level 5 Snivy beated level 100 Pikachu" nonsense. And no, that School of Hard Knocks episode was way too early and was not mentioned since.

And second of all, Pikachu was zapped by Zekrom. Sure, you could argue that he could've still used Quick Attack and Iron Tail, but has it crossed your mind that it also sucked out Pikachu's energy in general? Pokemon can have their on-and-off days.

And while bad writing has practically played a part of the entire anime, I'm sick of the overall ignorance towards the Pokemon anime in general, especially when people use game logic.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >levels are irrelevant
    If in-game levels aren't counted then you're still seeing a seasoned fighter against a freshman.

    >Pikachu's energy in general? Pokemon can have their on-and-off days.
    a fat kid wont beat a boxing champion in a off day anon.

    >I'm sick of the overall ignorance towards the Pokemon anime in general
    You always say this but never properly point out what we're suposedly wrong about.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't matter how seasoned of a fighter you are once your powers get severely drained by a literal god.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        of electricity, which is what pikachu lost.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty sure an electric type Pokemon without its electric powers could've been stripped out of its chakra in general

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Source on pokemon having chakra?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I asked for a source on chakra, not on elemental energy.
                And elemental energy is, you know, about the element, which is literally my point.
                Also, your screencap doesn't even mention elemental energy.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Rewatching the episode, you can see how weakened Pikachu every time he uses an electric-move. Right after everything was sorted out, he started to use iron tail, but Snivy was too quick. Is that not proof enough for you?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I also mean to say not just weakened, but also _weaker_. He's gradually detoriating after each failed electric attempt.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you can see how weakened Pikachu every time he uses an electric-move
                Yeah, because he lost electricity.
                > he started to use iron tail, but Snivy was too quick
                Literally my point, what decided it was unrelated to the zekrom event but a seasoned fighter somehow being slower than a kid who just started.

                It IS proof enough, proof that I'm right.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe the Zekrom thing robbed Pikachu out of its powers in general, and depleted a good amount of its health? Have you thought about that? You proved nothing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Maybe the Zekrom thing robbed Pikachu out of its powers in general
                Then Iron Tail would have the same cost as electric attacks, which, by your own explanation, it doesn't.
                >You proved nothing.
                I know, you did. You proved me right.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Forget the Iron Tail thing, it could've still stayed the same power. More like think about Pikachu's overall health and speed. It was sick. Severely sick to say.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >forget the part that proves me wrong.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You have to watch the battle again. Can you not see Pikachu getting even more depleted and in pain everytime he tries to use an electric attack? Unless if you can prove me otherwise that Pikachu's health and speed are still intact, which doesn't appear so during the battle.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >everytime he tries to use an electric attack
                Exactly, which Iron Tail isn't.
                Nor was the tackle he did right at the start of the battle, before any electricity was involved, which should've one shot a fresh snivy btw.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Would you forget about the Iron Tail nonsense? Pikachu used the electric moves, which weakened him even more.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >nosense
                Its not nonsense, its what proves you wrong.
                That you don't like it is your issue. If you truly disliked ignorance then you'd accept the actual evidence on screen.

                As for the quick attack, it probably should have, but it clearly didn't. Therefore, I am right about Pikachu being weaker from Zekrom overall.

                >it probably should have, but it clearly didn't
                Which is what is criticized. That it should have but it didn't.
                Unless you accept everything the ashnime throws at you as you've been doing for the last 25 years but at that point its not worth screeching "zekromino!!" either, just say that it's good and move on.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don't accept everything. For example, I don't accept Cameron beating Ash on a 5-on-6.

                However, even I can understand this battle, because there was enough proof that Zekrom crippled Pikachu.

                Eh, it's not worth convincing you. You are 100% in the wrong, and there is nothing you can do to change my viewpoint.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't accept everything
                >it probably should have, but it clearly didn't
                You do. You've been for 25+ years.

                >However, even I can understand this battle, because there was enough proof that Zekrom crippled Pikachu.
                Of his electricity, yeah.
                Which is not its only resource as the battle itself shows.

                >Eh, it's not worth convincing you.
                Don't worry about me anon. I didn't waste 25+ years of my life being blue-balled.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You are clearly twisting my words.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                how so?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                As for the quick attack, it probably should have, but it clearly didn't. Therefore, I am right about Pikachu being weaker from Zekrom overall.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's not just "bad writing." It's all the evidence we need in this episode.

                And yes, I am defending bad writing, because even in bad writing there is some logic to comprehend.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are people getting so worked up against this battle?
    because the snivy should have almost zero battle experience and the pikachu defeated a legendary not even 5 episodes prior.

    >b-but it was zapped by zekrom!!!
    so? Iron Tail or Quick Attack should have one shot Snivy anyway.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was right after DP and the Sinnoh League

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You don't go from throwing hands with a Legendary Pokemon like Latios to getting mogged by a brand new trainer and Pokemon who have NEVER SERIOUSLY BATTLED TOGETHER BEFORE PRIOR.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    People hate it because it shows that the anime really doesn't care about consistency. All of what you're saying is just the writers lazily trying to make the idea of a seasoned trainer losing to a weak ass beginner make sense, and even after all of it it's STILL hard to believe

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't change the fact that people generally get the wrong idea of the Pokemon anime, thinking that all progression should be linear, and that it completely follows game logic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking that all progression should be linear
        If it were exponential then it'd be even worse.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The match vs Hop, I think is to make up for the Snivy v Pikachu. Pikachu one shot Wooloo.

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